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0:01Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news and we've got a lot to get into on the show today double Bruno talks Bruno G and Bruno F we'll talk about those latest updates also Nagalsman a big update around him Diamonde a couple of other bits a player from Como we've been linked to as well and injury updates and also a little bit if we have time I mean because I don't think it should be anywhere near the start of the show a little bit if we've got time about what Skolls said and also Gary Linneke has said about Rashford because I think he's talking nonsense, but we might not get time for that.

0:41Hopefully we will. And look, yesterday I didn't do the evening show because I was down in London doing baller league stuff, spoke to a lot of people, some people well tapped in, quite concerning around the manager updates of Manchester United. But we'll talk about that in a moment because there was a lot of stuff yesterday I saw when I was driving back, looking on my phone, looking at Terry's show, looking at what was going on, and a lot of talk around Bruno Gomez. Man United want Bruno Gomez, Man United want to bring Bruno Gomez to the club. Also, Fabrizio Romano's update on Bruno Fernandes as well.

1:16So look, a bit of a double snub, if we're being completely honest, from Bruno Fernandes. Not as concerning as he's leaving, but United aren't going to get him to sign a contract anytime soon. We'll delve into what Romano said there in a moment. But let's start off with Bruno Gamera. So again, as I said, a lot of reports yesterday that Man United have put Bruno Gamera at the top of their list to replace Casemiro and Bruno Gamera would like a move and all these things. But the big issue is Man United are snubbing this deal. Man United, like you can speak to wherever you want to speak to and they can put a story out because they want a bit of interaction.

1:55But the reality is Mark doesn't text while he's driving because Mark gets a driver. I don't know whether that makes me look any better, actually. But the thing is, it's concerning because all these people writing about Bruno Gameres, like this is a news show and you have your opinion, I have mine. I mean, I've got to backtrack on Scholes a little bit if we get time. Hopefully we won't. But we have an open and honest conversation. I can't sit here and say that Man United are advancing a deal for Bruno Gamera when I know what I know. And, and you know, you lot know as well, like this is just spin.

2:36And the, the, the purpose of the spin, you always have to figure it out because United are not going for Bruno Gamera. Casemiro may have recommended him. His agent may be doing good work. I would say the five of the five straight out. Yeah, I'm going to do it. the five strands of transfers have to come out today on this shun because with any transfer story it's true it's not true it's from the agents trying to you know generate interest it's from the club trying to generate interest the selling club or it's from the player trying to get trying to get a new contract where they are and i think with bruno gamirez it's one of the last three it will be his agent trying to generate interest for a move because he's had enough at newcastle It'll be Newcastle trying to stir up from interest because that's the player they'd like to sell.

3:26And I'll tell you why in a minute. Or it's the agent and the player trying to stir up interest so that Newcastle put a new offer on the table because he's quite happy to stay. But it won't be Man United. It's not Man United. Do you want to know why it's not Manchester United? I like Bruno Guimaraes. I said to you the other day, for me, he would be on the list to go and get as a midfielder for Manchester United because I think he's Premier League proven. He's had hardly any injuries. he gets goals he's got passion he's a technically good player and he would massively improve our midfield we'd go from probably a six out of ten midfield to a seven or eight out of ten midfield straight away just putting him in it and you could argue that we're not actually a six out of ten midfield we might even be a five but the reason we're not in for him and man united will tell you this man united will tell you this if they're honest and fabrizio will tell you this and everybody will tell ben jacobs is on the show tomorrow we can ask ben jacobs in fact we will do that.

4:18Man United are not buying players over 26 years of age. They're not doing it. It was in an interview with Sir Jim Radcliffe. They're not doing those sorts of signings anymore. They're not signing people over 26. And Bruno Gomeres is 29 in November. So basically, he'll be 29 the season we sign him. He'll want decent money and Newcastle will want decent money. and United just don't do those deals anymore. And some of you might go, I agree with that. I agree with that. I disagree with it. But we don't do those sort of deals anymore. And until we break that boundary, and who knows? Maybe this summer we will.

4:59But at the moment, it's a strong no on anybody over 26. I mean, yeah, I think you can be 26, but 27 and over, you're not coming to Manchester United. They're not going to do it. And the reason Newcastle might want to sell Bruno Gamera this summer over Anthony Gordon and Tonali is because he is 29. Newcastle might be pushing this themselves. He's 29 this summer, this year. So for Newcastle, it's the last chance to cash in on a player that's going to depreciate in value year on year on year. So Newcastle might be pushing this out there themselves. And I don't know whether Newcastle are pushing it out there.

5:35But if I'm Eddie Howe or the CEO or the director of football of Newcastle and I know I've got to sell somebody because we're not going to be in Europe and FFP is knocking on the door, I don't want to sell Tonali. I don't want to sell Lewis Hall. I don't want to sell Anthony Gordon because they're all good players for the future. If I've got to sell somebody and I need to bring in£60 million, I will sell Bruno Gimérez because he's 29 next year and it's the last chance. And he's not going to be here as long as Anthony Gordon and Lewis Hall and Tonali. So it could be that as well. But I think there's a lot of people and you do need to, well, I think you need to remember who we're dealing with.

6:16I mean, when I talk about the manager thing in a few minutes time, you're going to have a wake up call about who we're dealing with. We're Manchester United and that's not the man United we want to be. But we have set parameters in place, whether we agree with them or not. we are trying to follow the Chelsea model which is probably why we'll give Carrick the job when you look at Rosinha and an inexperienced young coach I think there's a big hint there we're trying to buy lots of players under the age of 25 and we're not buying players over 26 27 which is pretty much what Chelsea won't do each Chelsea don't buy players over 25 they don't and Man United seem to think this is a good idea as well so everybody getting excited about Bruno Gameres I would really just ignore it and say that ain't happening until it happens.

7:02And what that means is if it happens, we have massively changed course. And I would cheer about that. But it's not like Diamande or Eli Anderson where it actually falls into the parameters of what Man United are doing. It doesn't mean we'll get them, but we could probably get a bit excited about them because United will try and get them. Bruno Guimera, I think, is a dead story because it's outside of what we're trying to do. we don't do those sort of deals anymore. We don't go over that age group anymore. So people trying to push that, I get it, you know, Man United, Bruno Gomérez, decent midfielder.

7:39But, you know, I think there has to be, not honesty, because we don't know everything, but there has to be a realistic conversation about it. And yes, I would sign Bruno Gomérez, but no, United aren't going to sign Bruno Gomérez as we stand here today. It will not be a deal that United are looking at. Somebody said, is it an app? Do you think there's any way it could happen? Zoe says Bruno Gomez is good. Man United will sign it. It's a him. It's not an it. But I think that for Man United to sign Bruno Gomez, I would imagine something like this would need to happen. Tonali goes somewhere else. Anderson goes somewhere else.

8:19Wharton goes somewhere else. They pull out a Balaba because Balaba will come. He's begging it. Stilla goes somewhere else. And you end up with a situation like last summer where you miss out on your five top targets and you sign Sesco. But even Sesco fits the parameters. Watkins didn't. So I don't know. I think Bruno Gimérez we would go for if we were down the list. But also, who else is going to go for him? I don't know. I don't know. Laura says the club's ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. OK, so that's the latest on Bruno G. The latest on Bruno F And Emily Derry's made a great point Just before we move on actually She says I make it make sense We will give a 32 year old Harry Maguire A new contract But will not sign Bruno Gomez at 28-29 In the name of developing young players Or investing in young players Emily Give yourself a gold star Tell you what We were easily led at school When I was at school We used to work really hard to get a gold star on your home on your work idiots kids today wouldn't fall for it and people say that things were better in the past i mean it was more innocent but like i remember being at school and um the teacher would like shout over gold bridge if you don't stop talking about football it wasn't gold bridge then obviously and if you don't stop talking about football you won't get a gold star and sometimes i go i'm never gonna i'm not i'm relegated already i'm never coming back from this i've not done any work for an hour i'm never coming back anyway have you got a bronze star but yeah we we did i don't i'll tell you what one of my teachers i can't remember i'd shout them out i mean they're probably dead but the point is well they probably are i'm 46 so we're talking about when i was seven so we're talking 40 years ago and the average age of a teacher is probably somewhere between 25 oh no still no probably still with us anyway i don't know the name so i can't shout them out anyway but they had football stickers they weren't a nonce they were they were a teacher right and they had football stickers and it was amazing so basically if you did good work you could you could take it you can have a football sticker on your work they were like these little tiny ones like you know like the stars they weren't massive they weren't like panini they were little and she had a whole big book of um these stickers and they were like tiny ones and she had about 20 of each badge i don't even know where you got them from the problem was after about a couple of months all the good ones had gone so man united i mean i don't i think liverpool was there but i'd rather wipe my arse um i do like why i don't know what i'm talking about but uh you'd end up going really like qpr or or preston to avoid having arsenal or liverpool or someone like that um it was good good times anyway i've completely diverted there sorry uh I'm going to blame Emily for that.

11:10But no, Emily is absolutely spot on. Give yourself a gold star because there is a hypocrisy to what Man United are doing. And I'm glad that Emily has exposed it because this is how shallow Manchester United's ownership is. And this is how intelligent people like Emily expose it. Because on the one hand, they have parameters about not signing players over 26 because it's about a young, vibrant development squad. It's about money. It's about money because Harry Maguire is going to... I think Harry Maguire is 33, not 32. And we're going to give him a contract for potentially two years. So we're giving a 33-year-old injury-prone centre-back, and he is injury-prone now.

11:55He gets a lot more injuries. An injury-prone 33-year-old centre-back who can't actually play in a back four. We're giving him a two-year contract rather than buying a younger one. and that's what Emily's saying. We won't buy Bruno Guimere, who's one of the best midfielders in Europe, well, yeah, in Europe, certainly in the Premier League, who's 28 slash 29 for£60 million, who can play in our midfield for the next three years and be our best midfielder. We won't do that because he's over 26, but we will give Harry a two-year contract at 33 because it's cheaper than buying a younger one who's under 26, and that's the hypocrisy of United.

12:30It works when it works. It doesn't work. It basically is we don't want to spend£60 million on a 28-year-old because we can't resell him. But if we spend£60 million on a 22-year-old, we can resell him and there's more value in him on the Excel spreadsheet. Because if you've got a£60 million player at 23 and he stays at the club for three years and you sell him, you make profit. If he stays at the club for 10 years, it's still profit. It's still an asset on the books. But with Harry Maguire We can keep somebody who's already here Costs us very little money Whereas if we bring a 22 year old in It probably costs us 50 million pounds So it's always about money It's not about developing players or anything like that The parameters are about salon value and replacement value etc Like Luke Shaw Luke Shaw is actually 30 He's 31 People forget I think people think Luke Shaw Because he looks a bit like Peter Pan is like 27.

13:27He's 30, Luke Short. He's been 30 all season. He's 31 in the summer. This is our left-back next year. I mean, in 13 years at the club, he's played about half of them. And he's our left-back next year. Because it's cheap to keep him. It's not because he's a good lad or, you know, popular. It's because it's cheap to keep them. That's what Nanganaita do. um what is the profile the club is looking for an eight a six i thought we need a physical six to compliment mainu an eight and bruno attend to fix midfields as united seven seven seven seven uh you know you're asking the you're asking the um wrong person really and i don't know whether the right person's in the chat to answer what midfield we're looking for um i know what i'd be looking for uh in fact i'm going to do a video on it but um i don't um i don't know what they're looking for because coolio says luke shaw's only 30 i actually thought he was about 28 to be honest but i don't know what the profile i mean tonali fits the profile perfectly because he can sit and run the midfield um the labor anderson water and they're not really sitters they're more pivot to you know um my dream signing would be valverde for about 80 million passionate covers every inch on the grass and would massively improve that squad to learn and drive us as lucho well look i was the when i was speaking to our source on saturday and obviously we gave you most of the information on sunday morning i didn't say this but you've just prompted something in my head united probably could face a difficult summer transfer in this window this window because there is an acknowledgement that last year you had Kunja and Embermo who were desperate to come to Manchester United I mean Kunja himself has said that you know Amrim played a big part in it and also he loves Man United Embermo Man United loves Man United so and they're not on massive wages so Kunja and Embermo brilliant signings but were really you know wanted to come to the club um obviously Le Mans is a young goalkeeper that no one else was looking for looking at really it was a big step up so he wanted to come and by the time for sesco it was newcastle or man united and he wanted to leave so the deals we did last summer sort of and also sesco wasn't first choice was he so you know by that time we're you know he was really happy to come to united so the person i was speaking to on saturday said united need to find those opportunities again because the the summer transfer window was good but when you analyze it all those players were desperate to come to Manchester United.

16:04Now, who's desperate to come to Manchester United this summer? When you look at it, there will be people. Belaber, 100%, is desperate to come to Man United, probably for the wrong reasons, but he is desperate. But beyond that, who's desperate to come to Manchester United in that market? Because United aren't very good at getting players that aren't desperate to come here. The only one that they've really done was probably Leni Oro, who had Real Madrid but Real Madrid wouldn't sign him so was he desperate or was it the only option on the table so United have got to find those options because if it's um if it's a straight fight between you know Liverpool Chelsea Man City Arsenal they will probably win it because they're better at transfer negotiations than us because they don't have Jason Wilcox involved it's concerning how United is Leonardo DiCaprio FC says AMG and Patrick Lynch says the issue with the age limit policy is that it rules out so many quality players.

17:00Modern footballers now are still elite until 35. And that means you could get nine good years from a good player, says Patrick. Look, how many players can you name over 26 that you would take at Man United? Probably 100. And you're right, like there's so many good players out there, but it's a financial decision, Patrick. It's because they don't, financially, they don't like the idea of signing a player who's 28 on a decent wage for four years knowing that there's nothing at the end other than walking away there's no resale value etc um jed says we've seen don carlo fail at everton what makes us confident someone like enrique will succeed with this terrible ownership i think you need to appreciate the super chat mate but i think before you you know you write stuff you should actually go and um research what Everton fans think of Ancelotti because he certainly didn't fail with the parameters that he had and the team that he had they loved Ancelotti there and and everybody felt he did a good job so I wouldn't describe Ancelotti's time at um Everton as a failure but I don't think Ancelotti's going to come anyway we'll talk about the manager in a moment because I just want to talk about this Bruno Fernandes update um

18:25sorry i'll uh i'll come back to that in a minute this paul skull stuff is really overblown which is why i don't really want to talk about it till later on in the show i mean fucking rio fairyland's ideas say now what a surprise um anyway um if manchester united qualify for the Champions League football and present Bruno with a very interesting and ambitious project there are good chances for him to continue and stay at the club this is from Fabrizio Romano now look some people will say it's stating the obvious but it is from one of the two traditionally best transfer experts in football um so Bruno Fernandes is effectively saying that Manchester United not only need to qualify for the Champions League they also have to present a very interesting and ambitious project for him to stay at the club and I think this second part is why I wanted to bring this in because technically it's a snub if United don't do that Champions League qualification I know how some of you work you're quite nervy and you don't like these sort of comments I said we'd get Champions League football on New Year's Eve.

19:43Amron was still here then. I didn't know who was going to be the interim. So I think we'll get Champions League football. I think it's by no means guaranteed, but when you look at the fixtures, you look at who we're competing with, you look at they've all got to play in Europe, and also you look at Aston Villa. I just can't see Aston Villa. I think Aston Villa could go as low as eighth, and they were third a couple of weeks ago. I think Villa are just going to drop like a stone. And obviously, I'm very confident we'll beat them on Sunday because they're playing on Thursday. So I think that it's Villa who are going to drop out.

20:19So we will get Champions League football, in my opinion. The next bit, and I actually appreciate this, the next bit is for Bruno to stay, we need Champions League football and we need an interesting and ambitious project. I would say to Bruno Fernandes that, and I'm happy to say this, leave Manchester United, even if they've got Champions League football, if they give the job to someone like Carrick or Deserby or Glasner and they only buy them four players, I'd leave. That's not ambitious. And that's nothing against Deserby, Carrick or Glasner. That's just not ambitious and it's not interesting.

20:55If they give that job to Carrick, Glasner or De Zerbe And they only give them four or five players Bruno's wasted his career Because in 18 months we'll be back where we are now If they give the job to an exciting manager And they buy seven or eight players That becomes an interesting and ambitious project And I think it's the definition of what's interesting and ambitious to you Remember this is Bruno Fernandes' last contract and for him he can't have another year like the last five he can't have a year like Newcastle he can't be in the Champions League it's great to be here but I'm only here for one year because next summer he's gone anyway there is a very big chance that this time next year we will be outside of the top five doing a Newcastle maybe in a knockout game in the Champions League knowing we're not going to win it miles off the top five so for Bruno he's got to think ambitious and interesting has to be Champions League for the next three years.

21:56He needs to play in the Champions League for the final three years of his career. And United need to put that on a plate. And if Brunei Fernandes is intelligent, which I think he is, I would be saying, look at Newcastle, qualified for the Champions League comfortably, done well in the Champions League, but not been able to get into the top five by, comfortably not in the top five. Look at their squad, look at our squad theirs is actually better and they've got a better manager and they've got more stability sell me your project this summer that defeats Newcastle with a good manager and a better squad so that we can be in the Champions League for the next three years and I'll sign that paper so I think this is a good thing for us I think it's a very good thing and I think Bruno shouldn't sign a contract until after the World Cup as much as I'd be there there is a there is a flip side to the coin but if I was Brunei Fernandes I'd be like I love it here and it's great that we're in the Champions League and I want to stay but I can't afford with my last contract to waste another three years on another fuck up from you at the top so you better give me the best manager and you better bring in the right volume of players for me to think that this is going somewhere because if you take another punt on a manager and you buy a load of players that need to nurture and develop.

23:18And I can tell you that project that I'm not signing. If I'm Bruno Fernandes and they give the job to Carrick or De Zerbe or Glasner, and then they buy Belaba, Jao Gomez, Diamande and a centre-back, I'm gone. See you later. I'm out. I'm out. I'm finished. The managers are punt. Belaba and Jao Gomez aren't good enough. Diamande is a young player and you haven't even bought a left back. So I'm gone. And I would be gone. On the flip side, if you give me Nagalsman or Enrique or Ancelotti and you sign Anderson and Stiller and you buy Lewis Hall and Diamande and you buy a couple of other players, I'm signing the contract.

24:05And that's the difference between exciting, ambitious and a punt. It's really easy, isn't it? And you will have your own, what you think it, But hopefully Bruno's is going to be like mine because United then need to deliver that to keep Bruno, which is essential. So I'm quite comfortable with this. Obviously, if I was the owner of Man United, I'd be like, Bruno, there's 400 grand a week. Will you sign the contract now? You try and get him on the money angle. You don't want to wait till July to do it. But I think from a fan perspective, if Bruno's on the wavelength, he should be on. And he should be saying, look, you can do what you want as a club.

24:42player power shouldn't exist but I can do what I want as a player if you want me to stay I need top class manager top class signings because I'm running out of time on my career and I'm not taking another punt or a project so it could be quite good for us Amit says Bruno Fernandes sets the benchmark for United to act and deliver I think Bruno Fernandes could be pivotal his decision could be pivotal in the future of this football club and he could drive that I mean he could literally say I'm only staying if you get a top class manager and five top class players and if you don't I want to leave and I think I'd respect him for that I don't want him to go I think we'll be in a right shithole if we go but Bruno's got to set that parameter really hasn't he um what is the profile the club is looking for I've done that from United 77 and so basically it's goodbye Bruno because this ownership is never doing that let's be real says not prepared well look yesterday i was down in london at the baller league draft day there was a lot of people there there's a lot of conversations and a lot of those conversations were about manchester united um and i was literally reading this um when i was talking to some people so um it was from the manchester evening news actually and it was basically saying that nigelsman would be more difficult to get this summer because he's contracted to the national team until 2028 and will manage at the world cup in the united states this summer united need clarity on their managerial situation before the world cup but they cannot wait a potential appointment of nagalsman would have to be announced before the world cup but there would be a managerial void at carrington while he coached germany at the tournament that point alone makes nagalsman highly unlikely although he does have strong links with united director of recruitment christopher val this is bullshit absolute bullshit like this is the parameters changing around the manager again.

26:33When they sacked Amrim, everybody was on the table. Pochettino, Tuchel, Ancelotti, Nagalsman, Roberto Martinez, all managing in the World Cup, all on the table. Enrique was on the table. Simeone was on the table. Emery was on the table. Have you noticed, just like Elliot Anderson, that's put out there to make you sort of feel good about sacking your manager halfway through the season it's an it's a classic united tactic we didn't buy a midfielder in january in the summer september the 1st elliot anderson's our priority we didn't buy a midfielder in january elliot anderson's our priority both windows closed get closer to a real window in the summer elliot anderson's difficult you know he's probably going to man city it's probably too expensive classic united tactic spin you when you're angry and then tell the truth when there's nothing you can do about it.

27:34Managers the same. Sack hammer him. Everybody's on the table. It's like, you know, we've got so much choice we don't want to do. There's about 16 top class managers we could go for. Where are we today? Basically closing the door on World Cup managers and closing the door on managers that we'd have to pay for. We're probably down to, and this was being discussed yesterday with a few people who were in the know, Man United are probably down to already Carrick, De Zerbe, Glasner, Iriola, Marco Silva, basically people who are free. Now, that's not best in class. That's like a line of shops for dinner.

28:16Harrods, Waitrose, Sainsbury's, Iceland, Gregg's. We're only going to Iceland or Gregg's or the£1 baguette shop. Well, they might do good food. I'm not having a go at them. But that's not best in class because we're ignoring the expensive auctions. That's basically what United are doing with the manager situation. We're closing doors all the time. And going back to what we were talking about with Bruno there, Bruno should leave. Because if I was Bruno Fernandes, I'd look at it and go, they're literally shutting doors on all these good managers. Bullshit. And look, we can't I don't agree That because a manager is managing in the World Cup We can't wait till after the World Cup I don't agree It's bullshit It's bullshit for idiots Because what they're trying to say is If a manager's managing in the World Cup They won't be able to train the players in June Oh, what in June?

29:16When they're on holiday anyway Well, if the manager's at the World Cup And they do well He won't be able to train the players in early July What? When most of the players in the World Cup are on holiday as well. So what you're basically saying is, we're not going for a manager in the World Cup for no reason. Because if you had gone for Tuchel, and even if England win the World Cup, which is the middle of July, Tuchel doesn't have to have a holiday straight away. He can come straight in. And that would be the back end of July. The Premier League season starts on August the 20th. You'd have a whole month of pre-season And also Bruno Fernandes I'm trying to think of a Man United England player I don't know Well let's say Harry Maguire goes to the World Cup Harry Maguire, Bruno Fernandes, Cunha All these players They won't actually start training until August

30:10Most players will not start their pre-season until August Because if you go to the World Cup you have to then have two or three weeks off. Because if you look at Bruno Fernandes, he's been playing football non-stop since August. Well, not at Man United. You do get holidays now. So these players need to have a break. So this nonsense that United are trying to leak out there to journalists, well, we can't go for a manager from the World Cup. I've seen some of our fans online going, yeah, I agree. We shouldn't go for a manager that's in the World Cup because we won't get a pre-season. and you sort of like go, oh my God, these people are so thick.

30:50There is no pre-season while the World Cup's going on. All your good players are at the World Cup. And if you've got 70 % of your players at the World Cup and 30 % back for pre-season, it doesn't matter. Because you can't work on anything anyway without your proper team. So going for a World Cup manager doesn't actually matter. It doesn't matter at all. And actually, the way football works, when Louis van Gaal was taking the Man United job after the World Cup, was it? We were talking to him about transfers and stuff way before he came in. So it doesn't make any difference. Sully says, don't forget Southgate.

31:33Well, if we give Southgate the job, it's over. Has other big six clubs bought over 26 recently, says Aaron. um arsenal definitely have um i don't know that man city have but you know what mate i think even if they hadn't why wouldn't we aaron why wouldn't we why would you close the door on that it's like people don't stop being good players at 27 um mr frames welcome to the members club thank you so much for getting your badge in appreciate you do you think the club even want bruno to stay says well i mean that's the million dollar question isn't it i mean i would hope that they do um of course if they've got no ambitious no ambition and no exciting project they might want to cash in on him i suppose do you think the club uh you've done that one and not prepared um so so basically it's goodbye bruno because the ownership is never going to do that let's get real and also Goldfridge with a super chat says not getting a World Cup manager because they won't be in for training is silly as not buying players early because they won't have a pre-season which we've done for the last 13 years exactly.

32:49Emily Derry says there is no pre-season and supposedly our transfer policy is board level so it doesn't matter that a manager target is at the World Cup. Club just trying to justify going for the cheap or easy option. Love. Emily's spot on. Goldfridge is spot on. Everything Man United do is spin. We can't buy players over 26 because, you know, they're old. No, you're just about to give Harry Maguire a contract at 33 and Luke Shaw is going to be left back at 31. It's because of money. We can't go for a manager from the World Cup because we won't get a pre-season. No, that's not true because why don't you go and get Enrique or Emery at Villa or PSG because it's money.

33:28You basically want the fans to think Carrick or Dezerbi or Glasner are a good choice because they're free. Everything we do is going to be driven by money. as always, and you won't get best in class. They can do what they want. We can't stop them from doing it, but don't try and justify it as excellence or best in class because it's not. It's not best in class when you are trying to buy a fish and instead of going in the ocean, you go in your neighbor's pond. You'll get what's in that pond. Whereas if you go in the ocean, you'll get what you want. And the United, again, are just looking to be cheap.

34:03But look, the general consensus in the industry is that United probably will give it Carrick and they want to do that because it's cheap.

34:18You know, I said that in January. Right, let's move on. Well, I will move on. You might want to come back. Breaking news that Jadon Sancho is poised to leave Man United on a free transfer this June with Borussia Dortmund and Villa keen on a move That was on Stratford Endex Okay, I'm literally just on my timeline there Sorry for that We'll edit that out Breaking news, Jadon Sancho is going to leave on a free transfer this summer No shit, Sherlock No, this is the one I was going to read So Spanish reports are saying that Man United have shown an interest in Como winger Jesus Rodriguez As they prepare to replace Marcus Rashford this summer there was some hope at the club that barcelona barcelona may not have the funds to buy rashford and he could be reintegrated into the squad the 26 million fee for rashford will be reinvested in a winger that's a wild story that's from sport in spain um yeah i mean i don't i don't i don't i don't know look man united need to buy a winger apparently even though i think we need to buy a back but um i don't think i don't i don't a lot you can tell that's a spanish story because it's almost like it's propaganda for barcelona that united want rashford back so let's let's sign rashford i don't think united want rashford back financially i don't think it's even a football decision i don't think inios want rashford back because he's on huge wages um i mean i wouldn't take Rashford back anyway.

35:48I think he's better off in Barcelona, but United are begging to have Rashford back. Although Carrick apparently wanted him back, didn't he? Although they said that that wasn't true. Talking of which, let's delve into some of this ex-player bollocks because a lot of people have been talking about it. So Gary Lineker has criticised Manchester United, suggesting a permanent move to Barcelona could be the best option for Rashford. I think that would be a great move for him said Lineker don't you it looks promising for him I think it will come down to Marcus if he goes back to Manchester United he would face the old criticism again oh he's focusing too much on helping kids had food on their table like it's a bad thing they did this bizarre thing about why he was wearing some kind of flashy necklace they don't do that nonsense here in Spain so he just gets on with his football it was a fresh start and I would imagine he's really loving it and not getting all the off-field nonsense he got in this country they leave you they leave you to live your life.

36:44It doesn't compare to how our media is here. It's unlike Lineker to make it about politics and off-field stuff, isn't it? I mean, I mean, this is a guy that presented Match of the Day and that runs his own bloody podcast and talks about Man United a lot, but doesn't seem to know much about Manchester United. Having said that, I think he had an interview with Rashford. And one thing, as a fan of Rashford, I would always say this. One of the big things that turned me off Rashford and how I relate to people who don't like Rashford is the brand around him is just like PR city. You know, Lineker will probably be in with Rashford's brand saying what they want.

37:25You know, there's no balance with Rashford. You're either dead against him or up his arse. And that's just the way his the people around him work. Lineker's obviously had the interview and he's in with them. I've heard other people who are in with them and that's not proper reporting. They're probably good people, but that's not proper reporting. So to say that Rashford was forced out of England because people were criticising him for feeding kids, I mean, that was years ago and I don't think people criticised him for it. The reason Manchester United fans wanted Rashford to go was because he was walking around on the pitch and not performing, Gary.

38:06And you left that bit out. So Man United fans aren't get out of this country because you're feeding kids. Man United fans aren't get out of this country because of the way you're dressing. It was bad performances, Gary, that Man United fans were getting fed up with. So, you know, it's... I feel like it's a bit of a dig against United fans, which is unfair. And also, there's a lot of United fans out there that really like Rashford. Personally, the first few years of Rashford, I really liked. He was one of my favourite players with Martial. What he became in the last few years. And Gary's also admitted the Belfast drinking incident, hasn't he, as well?

38:45I mean, that's, you know, he's happy to talk about feeding kids and jewellery, but he won't talk about going out on the piss in a different country the night before training. Interesting that from Gary, isn't it? But look, where I do agree with him is that there can't be a return to Manchester United because the criticism will come back. Because I don't think he actually, when you watch him at Barcelona, and I'm looking forward to watching Barcelona against Newcastle, I don't think that Rashford's much different from what he was in the Premier League. I think in the Premier League, some defenders had sort of figured him out a little bit and he needed a fresh challenge.

39:23And my personal take is that Rashford's doing well in Barcelona because it's a different country. in a different culture for a fantastic team that beats teams most weeks because it's one of the best teams in the league and as an attacker in that league you're going to enjoy your football more and it's a new environment and it's the fresh challenge that he wanted and that's the truth we don't need to say you shouldn't come back to Manchester United because people have a pop at him for feeding kids you shouldn't come back to Manchester United because you shouldn't come back didn't really work for Ronaldo did it he shouldn't go back you should look forwards you're at a much he's at a much better place at Barcelona playing in the Champions League challenging for titles than he is at Man United and he would get a lot of scrutiny if he came back to Manchester United because there are fans that sort of have had enough of him so that's the truth Gary I don't know what you're talking about bloody jewellery and stuff for because Rashford himself needed a new challenge and it wasn't a very good last 18 months for Rashford if we're being completely honest so look good luck to him and hopefully he'll do well because Barcelona is the right place um right right look I don't need to apologize on this next bit right so this whole Scholes thing again has started up so Scholes deleted this thing about Carrick where he said look my interpretation of that was that he basically said Carrick's a great coach um he must be to win four games when we've been shit I think he was my interpretation of that was that he was saying he's clearly not a great coach United have been lucky the last four games and that's what they finally got what they deserved good night that's the way I took it from Skulls I thought he was having a dig and I thought he was right to have a dig and I thought we were shit for the last four games and all this glow up about Carrick.

41:15Finally, the reality happened that, you know, he's done well, but he ain't the saviour. That's what I thought Scoles was saying. Apparently, that's not what he meant because Scoles said what I said, and I hadn't heard that before, but I was saying he was just a lucky manager. I wasn't saying that. I was saying he's a very talented manager because he's getting results with a team that for the last four games since West Ham, I didn't think they were playing well. So what Scoles meant by his post is that he actually meant that he's a very talented manager when he can win games when United aren't playing well.

41:47I didn't take it as that. But to be honest, Wes Brown said, I can see both ways. When Scholes, he explained it to me, it completely makes sense. But how I read it is he's having a go at him. I read it that he's having a go at him. So look, I just think we need to move on from it. It's not really the news, is it?

42:09Oh, Rio Ferdinand also said something as well. He said,

42:16I think it was just interpreted differently to the way Paul Skulls meant it to come across.

42:27okay okay well look a lot of people still talking about it um

42:35look my stance is if you're an ex-player and you want to say united have been shit and you don't really want this manager you can say it you'll get a bit of criticism for it but you can say it. I interpreted it that that's what he was saying. Apparently he meant that Carrick's really good because we're playing shit and he's winning games. Look, you know, some people do say that to win games when you're playing shit isn't bad, but we didn't beat Newcastle. We lost. So we were shit against Newcastle. The coaching was shit. The intensity was shit. The tactics were shit and we lost so we didn't win against new castle either so look this is the united stand we've been doing it for a long time a lot of you've been here for a while some of you might be new we're not here to necessarily agree we're here to debate and converse and have discussion some of you desperately want to give the job to michael carrick that's absolutely fine i desperately don't it terrifies the shit out I mean, that we will do it and be back here in a couple of years and go, we never should have done that.

43:43Remember, it took us two and a half years with Solskjaer to realise it was a mistake. Giving the job to carry might not be a mistake next season, might not even be a mistake the year after that, but it might be the year after that. You can waste a long time on a manager. Look, fortunately with Amarim, it was 12 months. With Ten Hag, two and a bit years. Oli, two and a bit years. So I'm scared. People keep asking me. I was asked it a lot yesterday. Why don't you want Carrick? I said, I like Carrick. He's one of my favorite players. But the ex-player thing doesn't do it for me anymore. It was amazing when we did it with Solskjaer.

44:18I was very excited about it, but I feel like we've done this and I don't think it's the right path. It scares me. Doesn't mean it won't be right. Doesn't mean it's not the right decision, but it scares me. And I don't think it's best in class. And also I think I've seen in the last four games that there are frailties to the way his coaching staff work and I think we're naive and I think we're very dependent on Kunja and Bermo Bruno producing moments just like Oli I don't see a lot of good football I see three or four players that can win you a game of football and I don't see a lot of tactics i don't think i don't see system i don't see a vision i did in the first two games against arsenal and man city but i haven't seen it since and that's what worries me is that this you know this will run out very very quickly and also this style of football vibe football moments football counter-attacking football bounce football light switch football whatever you want to call it It won't work when you're playing two games a week It won't work when you start to pick up injuries It won't work when you're going away to Barcelona And then you've got to play Newcastle on the Sunday You know, it just won't work It won't It'll work in this situation It worked for Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool One game a week, they nearly won the league But it won't work when we're playing two games a week It's a massive risk But I don't blame the fans I don't blame Carrick and his coaches for wanting it I don't blame the players for wanting him.

45:55I blame the people I always blame. I blame the people that have the power to make the decision who can't think like I've just thought there. You know, I blame Woodward for giving it to Oli and listening to fans singing songs of which I was one. And I blame Wilcox and Sir Jim Radcliffe for even considering doing it again, because that's not what best in class is. Dan says, I agree that Carrick isn't good enough. He needs to go away and manage a different club in the Prem. Then if he proves himself, he can come back. look there's nothing more I would like than Michael Carrick to take the Man United job and make it and become the next Sir Alex Ferguson or Pep Guardiola and make Man United great again but the chances of that happening have to be below 10 percent I wouldn't take that risk hope all is well Mark and United stand hope everything went well says Daniel but I am encouraged by Bruno I think the key to our summer is Bruno basically saying I'm only staying if you give me an interesting and ambitious project.

46:54And when they say what's interesting and ambitious, he says best in class manager and four or five top class signings. Then I'll sign. Because United have to deliver that because they need to keep Bruno. And if they don't deliver that, that'll be a double negative because we won't get what we need and Bruno will leave. And I think Bruno's the key. I hope Bruno doesn't just say, I'll stay for another Ollie project, because then it will be a waste of his time. Okay. Look, thanks everybody for tuning in. Lovely show this morning. I'm trying to think what we've got. Oh, next two days are a little bit weird.

47:32A little bit weird. So I'm with you. I'm with you on the morning shows at 10 o 'clock. Obviously got a two o 'clock show today. We've got Ben Jacobs tomorrow at two o 'clock. So it's Wednesday with Ben Jacobs, which is actually quite good because I want to ask him a couple of things about the manager situation. I need to write these down. BJ, if the wife sees that, she'll let me. Manager talk and a few things there as well. OK, we'll get those questions in. Tonight on That's Football, don't get sad. Champions League watch-alongs. so there is Liverpool Galatasaray at quarter to six and then there's the eight o 'clock game so I'm on that's football for six o 'clock and eight o 'clock all the Champions League games we have got a video with me going up tonight as well on United Stands so we have got something for you but it won't probably but it might be live I might be able to do it in between trying to think anyway I've got I've got some content don't worry make sure you smash a like and subscribe and I will speak to all later take care have a great day