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1:21Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news, transfer news. Lots to get into again for the fourth day in a row. This international break is cooking in relation to news. We've got a huge interview from Harry Maguire. Very interesting around his future, basically making demands about playing time and why wouldn't he? But also, you know, throwing the gauntlet down to the board that it shouldn't just go to Carrick. We need an elite management recruitment in the summer. And that's coming from Harry Maguire. I mean, look, I love Harry Maguire.

1:54I think he's, I'd let him go. I don't think people understand that. I would let him go and I'll explain that. But as a personality, I think he does get it. As a player, I think sometimes it's not quite what you want it to be. But really interesting comments there. Also, we're going to start off. Diamande and Anderson, the talks continue. The race is on. And remember, at two o 'clock today, we've got Ben Jacobs on the show with Beth. And I think we're going to get a couple of very big exclusives at two o 'clock. So don't miss out on that. We might end up with as many as five, but I certainly think we're going to get two or three.

2:30But look, we start off with our morning show on the United stand here. And we'll start off with an update from Fabrizio Romano. We've also got a little bit about Anderson as well, which we'll be able to adapt more on at two o 'clock. Moron. We'll be able to tell you more about it at two o 'clock. But this is what Fabrizio Romano has had to say this morning in relation to Diamande. And I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I've lost it. Here it is. Okay. Where is Romano? That's May New. Here we go. Here we go. Manchester United have scouted Diamande numerous times this season. He is super appreciated by the club.

3:09At the moment, there is no indication of the fee that Leipzig will ask for. It will be a big fee considering how well he's doing this season. The race for Diamande is on. Liverpool, PSG and Bayern have all tracked the players. Now, look, Fabrizio Romano's job is to cultivate and, you know, effectively sell transfer stories to you. I don't mean like for money. I mean, like, you know, that's his job. His job is like, you know, McDonald sells burgers. Romano sells transfer stories and he's very good at it. And I think adding Liverpool and Bayern Munich and PSG in there, you know, helps Leipzig. But it's sort of contrary to what we've been hearing and have heard over the last few weeks.

3:56I think with Diamande, the race is on and there will be other candidates, but it's the advanced nature of United's race that is most appealing. To the point where I think if United missed out on Diamande, I don't think they can just sweep it under the carpet and say we were never interested. It would be another loss. It would be another public failure, just like Semenyu was. I mean, let's not forget Semenyu we went publicly for in the last week of December. He went to Manchester City and United lost. At that point, they turned to Diamande as the player they wanted and felt happy to go towards Diamande because he was a little bit younger, if they were to miss out on him as well, then it would be considered a loss.

4:34So I think Liverpool are a threat. I do. I don't know whether Diamande is the right fit as a replacement for Salah, but Gakpo's been crap as well. And I think Liverpool will look at Diamande. But there is that chance that Liverpool might not make the Champions League. And if they don't make the Champions League, then they're in that position where, and basically the two things I can tell you this morning are that United are ahead in the negotiations on Diamande and are basically saying, what does it take to do this deal? Because United want to do the deal. They want to get the deal done. And they can get the deal done based on the fact that they have good relationships with Leipzig.

5:15They have good relationships through Favell. They've basically got Champions League football. And what they want from Leipzig is the fee and Diamande's buy-in. The issue they're going to have is that some clubs that want him, i.e. Liverpool, can't really commit because they've got to replace Salah and they've also got to see if they're in the Champions League, which they can't commit to at the moment. So Liverpool are sort of saying, we are interested, but we can't really do anything at the moment. So wait for us till the end of the season. Now Leipzig are going, we'll wait, we'll wait. Don't you worry, we'll wait.

5:47We've got Man United here. We'll wait for Liverpool. We might get a bit of a bidding war. We might be able to get someone else in. and Diamande might be going well I'll wait as well because I want to know what all my options are but United are pushing on this if you're Man City you don't they don't wait do they let's be honest if it's Man City players don't wait they want to come to Man City it's a little bit annoying actually and I was hoping that we might get we might be able to get this deal done in principle over the international break he wants to come to Man United Leipzig want to sell him to us let's announce it at the end of the season and it's all done we move on to the next one It feels like it might be drifting towards, well, Leipzig, we want to wait and see who offers whatever in the summer and Diamande wants to see who else is there.

6:29So it could end up being a bit more of a battle than maybe Man United hoped it to be because, as I say, United have got the money, they've got the relationship, they want the player and they pretty much got Champions League football. Other clubs haven't. So it's a watching brief on that. You know, I've done a lot of work on it and they really do want him. They won't want to miss out on Diamande. But there is this issue where other clubs are sort of like going, well, we are interested, but we're not ready yet. And obviously the transfer window doesn't open yet. So Leipzig are in their rights to say we're not going to do the deal.

7:00We're going to wait. So I'll have to wait and see on that one. More interesting, though. Obviously, I think we'll get a lot more information at two o 'clock. But what we've been told this morning is that Man United have held talks with Anderson through third parties. Now, similarly, we did this with Conor Gallagher in sort of November, December time. Obviously, we didn't follow through, but similarly, we are doing it again with Elliot Anderson. Now, you remember Fabrizio Romano on Friday was saying that Manchester City are in advanced talks. And we were like, well, it's only a matter of time that United step into these talks with Anderson, because obviously Man United have been telling the whole world for the last eight months that they want Elliot Anderson.

7:40You can't just say, we want Anderson, he's the top priority, he's the top priority, and then Man City are in advanced talks and you sit there and go, ooh, they're talking to someone we want. So United aren't in advanced talks. I don't think, I'm hoping that at two o 'clock we'll find out a little bit more. They're not in advanced talks, we don't think, but they've certainly registered their interest with the people that matter. Now, not Nottingham Forest. This is not about negotiating with Forest. This is about what clubs do. This is what Man United do. We get the buy-in from the player before we go to the club.

8:12Man City are obviously pushing very hard with Elliot Anderson. They would have signed him in January if there was any indication that Forest would sell. They wanted a hat-trick of Gehi, Semenu and Anderson and they would have done it. That didn't happen, but they are pushing very hard to get this deal done. And it's been like what Man City are doing with Elliot Anderson is exactly what Arsenal did with Declan Rice. Remember, people thought United were in for Declan Rice. When you read about what happened with Declan Rice, Arsenal were in on Rice months before, months before. They were selling him the project.

8:45They wanted him. It wasn't like Arsenal came in late. They were there very early saying, you're the player we want. We don't want anyone else. Similarly, I think Man City have done the same. They wanted to get him in January. They're having the advanced talks in March. They are basically saying to Elliot Anderson, we're not messing about here. You're our priority midfielder. We want you. And that's going to be very difficult for United because I don't think United have done that. I think they've done it through the press, but I don't think they've wined and dined him in the sense of advanced talks early on.

9:16However, we have apparently registered interest and said, look, we do want Elliot. And before he signs for Man City, we would love to have talks with him. Now, whether that's going to materialise or not, nobody knows what the Elliot Anderson camp is thinking about his future. Is he destined and he's got a heart set on Man City? Is he open to Manchester United? But apparently Manchester United have registered interest and want to hold talks with him. Now, whether those talks have been held or not, it could be fast moving because of what Man City's had. But I think, look, if we don't get Elliot Anderson, people are going to say we lost out to Man City anyway.

9:53We have made it very clear to the likes of David Ornstein, Fabrizio Romano, Ben Jacobs, every other journalist around Man United has said that Elliot Anderson is a top priority of Manchester United since September. If we don't actually hold talks with him, everyone will just say we lost to Man City anyway. So United have got to try. And as Savage says, we have to try. And I think ultimately, I and many of you probably don't think we can do it. I just need to do something. I am not in a full kit. I can see people in the chat. I'm not in a full kit. Look, I'm not in a full kit. I keep seeing people saying, is Goldbridge in a full kit?

10:36I'm not in a full kit. and before anybody starts saying I'm funding the glazers I have a red one and I have the black one and the reason I'm wearing it is I've got to go straight out after this stream today to film something and they wanted me in a Man United kit and I've worn the red one before so I'm just wearing the black one so it's literally end the stream, go out in this top that I was given I didn't buy it and I didn't buy that one at the back either but whether I did or I didn't, it's not going to get the glazers out is it? Not buying a Man United kit is not going to get the Glazers out, by the way.

11:09Just the breaking news. You not buying a Man United kit is not going to get the Glazers out. It's a personal choice. And I know Terry doesn't do it. And I 100 % respect it. But not buying a Man United kit will not get the Glazers out. Tell you what will get the Glazers out. Somebody stepping forward to get them out that the fans can support and boycott and do everything that's needed. But until there's a viable alternative, we won't get the glazes out. Anyway, so look, positive news about Anderson that we're in the race. Positive news about Diamande. We want that Diamande deal done. I mean, this is old news.

11:50We were talking about this a month ago. Man United would do Diamande like we did Memphis Depay. Like Memphis Depay was announced in late March, early April, if I remember correctly. We would announce that deal. United would love to announce that deal. Contrary to what you think, man, United aren't stupid. They know that if they could announce a deal early, it would be huge. I mean, I've not heard it from anybody, but if you think about it, we're not playing, it's the international break, so we're not playing for a couple more weeks. United love news. If they could announce a deal in this March international break, they'd do it.

12:30And I'm not saying that they will do that, but they would like to get that Diamande deal done. But this is the positive side and the negative side. As I said, if United could get that Diamande deal done today, I think they would do it. But Leipzig are going to go, why would we do it? Someone else might offer more than you. And Diamande is going to go, why would I do it? I might want to speak to somebody else. And this is the problem. This is the problem we face. I don't think, well, I know we're not good enough in our recruitment department to do what Man City do, where they can get players tied up very early and don't stress.

13:09We have a lot to do this summer and not a lot of time to do it in. and that is why over the last few days I think we have seen so many players linked to Manchester United because I think we're probably speaking to a lot of people and also remember a lot of agents will be ringing us up you have to understand that in the football industry it's not just Man United ringing people up you will be offered players good players by agents who are busy as well. I want to get into what Harry Maguire said, though, because I think this is going to be the most interesting part of the show this morning. Triple deal.

13:49Diamande Rahm Lukeba would be great, says Melchut. Thank you very much, pal. Even if Enrique comes, I don't think he's going to get more than five signings and he would probably want more than eight. This is a joke. Wilcox must get fired, says Salah Mohamed. And Will Baum says, Hi, Mark. Would you take Anderson and bruno g or tonali but carrick and steve holland get the job or we have belabor and wharton but enrique get the job what are your thoughts i think enrique getting the job will i mean these are hypotheticals i know i threw one out there last night so i can't um i can't say that but no i would take enrique and on the previous point from salah saying that if enrique if enrique only gets five signings he probably wouldn't want more at more than eight um i think five signings for Luis Enrique or Michael Carrick or Nagalsman wouldn't be a bad, it wouldn't be great, but, but, you know, they'd all be, whoever gets, they're all, ultimately, do you want Carrick with five or Enrique with five?

14:44I mean, there's still a better manager there, isn't there? Which leads me onto this. I thought this was a very, very interesting interview with Harry Maguire. We'll talk about maybe his finish to the season and what he wants, because I literally said this would happen with Maguire. He's basically saying he's got offers. he thinks it will get sorted out but he's not here to just sit on the bench he wants to play and that's my issue if you know Harry Maguire is not going to sit on the bench so the question you have to ask and I think we've got a poll going as to whether you'd give Harry Maguire a new contract the question is not whether you're giving Harry Maguire a contract to keep him around because he's a good lad are you giving Harry Maguire a contract to start for Man United next season because that's what he wants to do and that's what he's being offered at Everton and AC Milan or wherever else they're offering him a starting place in their team.

15:34Man United fans need to realise the question is not, do you want to keep Harry Maguire around because he's a good lad with a, you know, you know, a great work ethic and it'd be great to have on the squad like Johnny Evans. He wants to start for Man United. So the question is, if you want Maguire to stay, you are accepting the chances are he's going to start because that's what he wants to do. He's not, if you, I mean, I don't need Harry Maguire to say it and I'll read what he said in a minute. but you should know that Harry Maguire is not going to sign a contract at Manchester United to earn money and sit on the bench.

16:08He will want to start. His England career was over and he's back in the England squad. So he will not sit on the bench willingly. He will want to play and that will be part of him signing a contract. So if you want Maguire to stay, you must want him to start because that's what he will want to sign the contract on those terms. But the big thing I wanted to say is and he's got an interview 10 hours on my feet traffic noise everybody needs something from me my head is spinning i just need the world to stop for one second but then i get home shoes off phone out and i open moto casino hundreds of slots classic table games it's my instant reset the variety i want in the quiet i need moto casinos the social casino board were prohibited no purchase necessary visit moto.us for more details download the moto casino app America's Social Casino If mornings feel harder than they should, your sleep might be the reason.

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17:56You forget that the players, when they're away from Manchester United, do interviews, are allowed to do interviews and sometimes do quite revealing interviews. So it might be the first of many over the next few days. So this is what he had to say. He said, in relation to Manchester United and Michael Carrick, we've got to finish strong. And I think Carrick should go right into the mix of the other candidates for the permanent job and let the process begin. I'm sure it will do and I'm sure it's going to be a thorough process. I think this is absolutely superb. I very rarely take notice of what a player says because a player will follow the club line, the PR, you know, we've all heard the cliches from players, but occasionally you do get really interesting bits.

18:43Like, you know what Kunja said a few weeks ago about the reason he came to Manchester United was Ruben Amrum and what we got in the last international break from Bruno Fernandez about the board wanting to force him out. Those interviews are always very interesting. And a lot of the time they happen away from the club because they're not under the club's PR. So Maguire saying this while he's away on England duty, I think it's brilliant. And I think it puts pressure on the club because he's not not backing Carrick. What he's saying is, I think Carrick should go into the mix of the other candidates and let the process begin.

19:16And I'm sure it's going to be a thorough process because it's going to be a big summer. So what he's basically saying is, what I and many of you have been saying for the last couple of weeks is, if you're going to give Carrick the job, make sure you interview the best candidates with him. Don't just give him the job like we did it to Oli. So if you've got Harry Maguire, a starting, experienced senior player at Manchester United saying, yeah, Carrick should be considered, but you've got to interview top candidates and do a thorough process. I mean, that's really great because United might ignore the fans.

19:55They might ignore the players. But if the players are thinking it and the fans are thinking it and the club don't do it, it shows you there is a general feeling in the dressing room as well as in the fan base that if you're going to give it to Carrick, you better bloody interview some other people as well first. And I think it's a great comment because you might expect a player to say, Michael's doing a really good job. I think he deserves the job, which we've heard Rooney say and we've heard Rio Feridan say. But in relation to Harry Maguire, a serving Man United player, he's not saying don't give it to Carrick.

20:27He's saying he's done a good job. But what he's saying is he deserves to go into the mix with the other candidates and let the process begin. So what Maguire's basically saying is, and I agree, is what Carrick's done as an interim is really good. Probably can't trust it because interims tend to do quite well. But his reward for doing well as an interim is he gets an interview. And that's right. His reward for doing well as an interim shouldn't be he gets the Man United job. His reward for doing well as an interim should be he gets considered for the job. and I think that's a very, very good analysis because I think some people think, oh, Carrick's at the wheel.

21:12You know, he's won a few games. We're going to be in the Champions League. Carrick's at the wheel. Get the pen, get the paper, sign the contract, right? No, the reward is you get considered for the job. The reward is you get interviewed for the job. That's what the reward should be and I think it's absolutely spot on. He also goes on to say, it's going to be a big summer. We need bodies in, bodies to help the squad. We know that. We need improvements in the squad. It's going to be a big recruitment in the management department. And I'm sure that the hierarchy will get it right. So it's not, you know, the first bit was good.

21:44The second bit, in a way, is even better. Harry Maguire is saying we need signings. We need signings to help the squad. We need improvements in the squad. And it's going to be a big recruitment in the management department. And I'm sure the hierarchy will get it right. Well, he's got to say that. is employed by the hierarchy. But in a way, I think he's putting pressure on the hierarchy saying, this is a big management recruitment. You've got to get it right. And also it's a big summer where we need bodies in to help the squad. And I don't, obviously hasn't said any more than that, but my interpretation is obviously we need bodies.

22:21We need players bringing in five six seven eight um sounds like steps and um also we need big improvements in the squad and i think this is about what we've been talking about that you look at newcastle they've got a good team but have they got a good enough squad united need to be back in the top five or four next season and do well in the champions league which in our current state i think we've struggled with So we need recruitment. Also, we need a top manager. I mean, it doesn't get discussed enough, but if you give this job to Carrick and Steve Holland, what experience have they got of getting into the top five of the Premier League whilst navigating the Champions League?

23:02I mean, you're literally giving it to work experience people. It's something they don't know what to do. If you bring in a manager that's done it, you see what I mean about experience and inexperience? It will be very difficult next season. And what I'm saying is there's almost a ready-made excuse if we fail, but we can't afford to fail. So if you gave that job to Iriola, who's never managed in the Champions League before, and he comes in and we finish seventh and we're back in the Conference League and we're seventh. If people are saying Iriola out, there's almost an excuse there to say, well, they brought in a guy that's never managed in the Champions League before.

23:39He's never managed like midweek and that level, midweek and weekend. And we want to sack him for it. Obviously, he was going to need time to adjust. It's on the board. But the reality is, when you think about it, we can't afford that scenario. We can't afford the, oh, it's their first season, so let's let them off. We can't afford in a year's time to be back out of Europe. We have to be in the Champions League this time next year. So can you take a risk on a manager that's never done that before? or do you go for a manager that knows how to get in the Champions League or, more importantly, knows how to manage in the Champions League and domestic league?

24:17So I think that's a big call. And I wonder, I mean, I don't know whether Maguire's thinking that, but it makes me think that if you give an inexperienced manager the job, they have got a ready-made excuse if they fail to say, well, it was my first time. That's on the board. We can't afford the inexperience because we need to be back in the Champions League in a year's time. Therefore, don't recruit a manager that is going to have that ready-made excuse when they go, well, it was my first try, I'll be better next year. We need somebody that goes in and has the experience. And that's going to be the challenge, I suppose.

24:52More interesting quotes from Carrick, from Maguire. But let me just have a sip of my tea.

25:00Only and ever says we need to move heaven and earth to get Enrique. T.W. Wolf says give Harry a one-year contract with a salary of£10 ,000. Axe Woods says could Kunya fall into a number 10 if Bruno goes next season? It'd have to. Kunya would have to be the Bruno replacement, yes. Harry on 1126 says do you think if the club gives it to Carrick and he doesn't get backed and he gets sacked, do you think it would be the end for these owners? I think we've predicted and eulogised the end of the Glazers for a very long time and they do continually survive. unfortunately. Comment from the chat. Hi, my name is Oscar and I've just turned 13.

25:37Please could I have a shout out as it would make my day, says Gabriel. Shout out to Oscar. Why are you not at school? Might live in a country where it's not, it's evening or morning, but anyway, shout out. Thanks very much, pal. Thanks for watching. Will says, at the moment we struggle with fatigue to play once a week. We have no squad depth to any good level. How do you think this will work out next season with Champions League games as well. I think it's like what Harry said, Will. I think it's exactly like Harry said. I think we'll struggle if we don't bring a lot of players in. United Guy says, if we get into Europe, we need a quality centre-back, and I don't see a lot of people talking about it because De Ligt and Martinez are very injury-prone.

26:17Will Bomberg, welcome to the Members Club. Thank you for getting your badge in. I don't think that we do need to move... I don't think we need to categorise De Ligt as Martinez. Martinez has had two significant injuries in the last couple of years and is now injured again. De Ligt has had one bad injury. We don't know what the reaction to that's going to be. Marcus Rashford had a bad back injury and is absolutely fine now. So a back injury, it's not like your knee, it's not like your hamstring, it's not like your ankle. Back is a very strange injury to have a football player. I mean, look, it could be a career ender for Dillett.

26:55I'm not getting any sense that it is. There was even talk that he might be back before the end of the season. I think once he's over this, he will be okay. So I'm not too worried about Dillett. Martinez worries me a little bit because even this injury, which wasn't very minor, has kept him out for basically six weeks, which is probably why they're going to keep Maguire, which we'll come back to. I'd prefer Njaya over Diamande. Cheaper also, says Rory. I don't think he will be cheaper, Rory. I actually don't think there'll be a lot of difference between the price of NG and Diamande. Diamande, I think, is going to be 60, 70 million pounds.

27:35And NG, mid-20s Everton player, they're not going to let him go for cheap either. I like NG, but I think Diamande might be the more exciting deal. You know, he could be, you know, he could be, I'm not a big advocate of learner drivers, but he is playing in the Bundesliga regularly and doing very, very well in a team that was a little bit like us last season, Leipzig. They didn't even get into Europe. And at the moment, they're fighting for top four and he's their best player. So I don't mind buying you. Look, I'd buy Almala from Cologne. I think he's going to be an absolutely brilliant player.

28:17I mean, you name me teenage players that you would sign and I'll give you a few. But learner drivers for me are players that I don't think are right for United. Like a winger, we've got other people that can play on the wing. He doesn't need to play every week. Midfield, the labour terrifies me. He's playing shit. He's young. He's inexperienced. That's not what we need in midfield. We don't need a learner driver at centre-back either. I would want a centre-back. We don't need a learner driver at left-back either. So it depends on who that player is, as to whether their age is a learner driver or not.

29:00Done that. If Anderson goes to City, would you be happy with Tonali, Garner and Scott? Also, Bruno stays and Manu is going to sign a new deal. I'd be very happy with that, Raj. I mean, I think Anderson will go to City. It'd be a very pleasant surprise if he didn't, but I think he will go to City. So I'd be over the moon with Tonali, Garner and Scott. As though for those three, I'd be absolutely static. Big game for Ireland tonight, says Damien. Yeah, don't forget we're live at seven tonight because we're live at 7.45 on That's Football. Get on the World Cup vibe. Playoffs tonight. Italy, Northern Ireland.

29:31Ireland are playing Czech Republic. Wales are playing Bosnia. We'll have it all covered. If we bring an experienced manager, what would success mean? Winning the league, staying in the Champions League. Le Familiar. T.W. Wolf says, I meant to say 100 grand a week for Harry Maguire. I think 10 grand a week, you wouldn't get out of bed for that. I think a successful season for Man United next season is to get back into Europe. I don't think we're challenging for the title next year because this team can't challenge for the title. So you're saying let's go from a team that's nowhere near the title to title contenders, totally dependent on a good summer transfer window.

30:08So I think next season is about getting back into the Champions League. France are playing Brazil as a friendly tonight as well. We'll get that on as well. We'll get multi-screens on. It's going to be one of those. I love Carrick, but I'm scared to death of another failed project. I pretty much think that's my sentence as well. And as I said a few minutes ago, why would you go for an inexperienced coach when you need experience? We need somebody that knows how to deal with the Champions League and the Premier League. and unfortunately some of the candidates we're looking at are inexperienced. They wouldn't go there.

30:41Thank you very much to PX. And surely the charges towards City will come to an end by the end of the season and could be a factor in the Anderson race. Maybe wait for the World Cup, says Alan. I mean, you never know. It would be a turn up for the books. You never know. It's not beyond the rounds possibility, I suppose. Let me talk to you about what Harry Maguire has had to say about his He had some interesting things to say But this is what he had to say about staying at the football club So context to this Would you give Harry Maguire a new deal? 45 % of you are saying yes 55 % of you are saying no Now listen to what Harry had to say Because I think this is quite interesting He said my preference is to stay at Manchester United.

31:34I love the club, but it's got to be right for me. It's got to be right for the club as well. I don't want to stay on sentimental value. I want to stay because I want to be there and the club wants me to drive the club forward and they feel like I've got a big part to play. If that's the case, then I'm sure we'll sit down and reach something. I think that's a demand from Maguire And I respect it I haven't got a problem with this at all This is grown up talk This is not like You know, he is not wrong But when you read what he's saying He's saying, I'm not staying here To sit on the bench like Johnny Evans You know, I'm not staying here To not start games If I'm staying at this football club Then I need reassurances That I'm playing I need reassurances that I'm a massive part of this first team.

32:26I need reassurances that I'm going to be a big part of this team. And if that's the case, we'll reach something. On those terms, I don't give him a new deal. I completely agree with him because if he goes to Everton, I think he starts. And if he goes to Crystal Palace, he probably starts. And if he goes to Serie A, he probably starts. but he is absolutely spot on. I've got no problem with Maguire saying that. Absolutely, I respect it. I admire it, you know. He's 33. I think he's 33. I always say he's 33, but he might be coming up for 33.

33:10Yeah, he's 33. He's had a lot more injuries in the last couple of years than he's ever had in his career. If you look at his injury record in the last couple of years, up until 2022, he'd only had a handful of injuries in his career.

33:34Since 2024, groin injury, muscle injury, calf injury, thigh problems, a couple of knocks. He's missed, since 2024, he's missed 10, 11, 17, 21, 32 games in two years with six different injuries. We know he's picking up more injuries. He's 33, he's picking up more injuries. We saw against Bournemouth that lack of pace in a back four. The question Man United need to ask is, is he a starter for Man United? And for me, he's a bench player. When everybody's fit, he's a bench player. But Maguire doesn't want to be that. He wants to start and I don't think he's a starter. I don't. I don't think he's good enough to start for a team that wants to go places.

34:29I think under Carrick our defensive line has gone very very deep you can watch the games back I think we play a deep defensive line I don't think we play a high defensive line and that's why we counter-attack you're always going to counter-attack with a deep defensive line we need to play a higher line if you look at teams like Man City against Arsenal their defensive line's on the halfway line and they're smothering them and they can't get out so for me every dating app swap is another loss. Jim bros, fake CEOs, straight up losers. So now the only app I open is Moto Casino because at least there I'm surrounded by winners.

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36:36So I don't think he's a starter anymore and I don't think he's happy with that. But if he signs the contract, that's because Man United have made him happy, which means they're offering him a first team place, which is a mistake. But the reason they'll be doing that money. It's cheaper to give Harry Maguire a new contract because you saved money than it is to sign a new deal. Maguire is actually going to save us money by staying because we're going to reduce his wage. So Jason Wilcox goes to Sir Jim Radcliffe and says, we need a centre back, but look what I've done. We're paying Harry 190 grand a week.

37:08We're now paying him 100 grand a week. I've saved his 90 grand a week and we've still got a centre back. So I think they'll do it on a financial point. Man City would never do this Arsenal would never do this Liverpool would never do this Chelsea would never do this they won't do it on money they'll do it on talent and I like Harry Maguire I admire Harry Maguire and I think he's absolutely spot on saying he wants to play but I've seen better players than Maguire be let go in their 30s because we need to move on and I've seen Man City do it with Silva De Bruyne, Kyle Walker it's not disrespectful full.

37:44It's not saying they're crap. It's just saying now is the time to move on. United have always been terrible at this. But I respect the fact that Harry Maguire has detailed why he will stay. He will stay if he's a big part of the first team. And if he signs that contract, that means United have told him he's a big part of the first team. And I think that that's risky. That's risky based on his speed, his age, his injury record, and what we're trying to build for the future. My prediction for the midfield signings this summer is Beléber, Jal Gomez and Fernandes, all under 26, Premier League proven and easy to get, but also not good enough.

38:25That's not a good summer, Marlo. I mean, it's three and I think it would excite people to get three, but there's a hell of a lot of if, buts and maybes in there, isn't there? Yeah. United Knicks says, great comments from Maguire. I agree with everything he said. However, if he's our main centre back, I can't see how this progress is going to happen next season. says United, especially if Luke Shaw's at left back. Forza, welcome to member. Oh, no, Forza's gifted five memberships. You're a legend, sir. Thank you very much for that, if you got one of those. Tech Empire says, is Esteval possible, Mark?

38:57Wasted at Chelsea. I think Esteval is an incredible player. I don't think he'll leave Chelsea after one year, but I think when he clicks and they keep him fit, he's a fantastic player. I don't really understand sometimes when he's fit, when he's on the bench, but I think it's because of his defensive capabilities, but he's a brilliant player. I think the only player that's likely from Chelsea, and I say likely in the loosest sense of terms, is Cole Palmer. Interestingly, I wanted to just bring this in as an observational point. So he spoke about Amrim, Harry Maguire, but before we speak about that, he said this, what system do you prefer playing in at Man United?

39:44Now this surprised me, but then again, I don't think Harry Maguire is stupid. And I thought, is there a little bit of personal PR here? Because Tuchel plays a back four and Man United play a back four now. Because he said, I prefer playing in a back four. When you're in the middle of a back three, people think you can't move and that you're protected, which you are. But I've always said I'd rather play in a back four. I feel I can be more aggressive. I'm a defender who loves duels. In a back three, especially century, you're more centrally you're more cautious playing almost a libero role and you won't step forward with the ball as much which is a big part of my game i think this is bollocks right i think harry is a very clever person and i think he knows england player back four and he knows man united player back four so it would be disaster pr to say i prefer to play in a back three when neither Man United or England play it.

40:35So I think this is personal PR and very clever. And I applaud it because he's basically been asked what he prefers to play in, a back three or a back four. If he says a back three, he's almost championing the former Man United manager at the detriment of his current situation where England and Man United play a back four. I think Harry Maguire played his best football when he played for England in a back three. And I think he played well for Amrim in a back three, but he never played central. He always played right side or left side. I don't think Maguire is a central centre-back anyway. So I personally think Maguire is better in a back three because he doesn't get exploited for pace.

41:15And he does have freedom to go forward if he's not the central centre-back. And I know sometimes he played the central centre-back, but if you're not the central centre-back, you can go forward in a back three. And also he doesn't get done for pace. So I think Maguire is better in a back three. I don't think he's better in a back four because he's too slow and you get left one-on-one and yeah if it's an aerial ball you're back in to win it but if it's a ball in the channel you'll get exploited if you think about the Newcastle goal the winning goal he can't get back and if you think about the Bournemouth goals you know he's slow on that as well so I think Maguire's better in a back three but I understand why he's saying he's in a back four because obviously he's playing in a back four at the moment um also he had this to say about Ruben Amorim.

42:03He said that

42:09the formation must have made a difference because the results before were not good enough. I don't really have much bad to say about Ruben Amorim. I really like Ruben. I think he's got great ideas. The ideas just didn't work at Man United. I do believe he'll go on and have an amazing career. It just didn't click and I think as players have got to take a lot of responsibility for that as well. I mean, I just think all in all, it's a really good interview from Harry. You know, it puts demands on the club to buy players. It puts demands on the club not to just give the job to Carrick and recruit properly, you know, a top class manager.

42:46And it also takes responsibility for the Amirim failure squarely with the players. Because when you look, I mean, I don't want to go back to Amirim, Maguire's mentioned it but when you look at us under amrim we created more chances and had better xg than we do under carrick it's a fact we did create more chances per game under under amrim and we had a better xg under amrim but something wasn't right the results weren't happening were they and i think ultimately i've said this a few times and i stand by it and i think we've seen it in recent weeks again As a squad, our IQ in a footballing sense is very low.

43:26When Ranyik came in, they couldn't play the Ranyik system. When Ten Hag came in, they couldn't play the Ten Hag system. When Amrim came in, they can't play the Amrim system. And now under Carrick, we're back doing the only system we've ever been able to do, which is the Oli system of sitting deep and countering and relying on moments. and that's what we're doing. That is what we're doing. You know, you can call it what you like, but we have seen this before. It's sit deep counter and that's the only system these players seem to be able to play. And when I say players, I don't mean individual players.

44:00I mean collective dressing room because if you go back to Radnick, it's a lot of different players than what it is now. But Maguire's right. You know, it didn't work under Amrim because the players can't play the system and it didn't work under Ten Hag because they can't play the Ajax system and it didn't work under Rangik because they can't play the Rangik system. We are very limited and what worries me is that the manager may always get the blame but fundamentally is it low IQ players or is it low IQ coaching and you've got to have that debate yourself but ultimately we've consistently failed under numerous proven stylistic managers.

44:45And I think Maguire's right. I think the players have to look at themselves and take responsibility for their inability to do anything else other than play counterattacking football. And that's been a problem that's plagued us for years. We just cannot do anything other than sit deep and counter. And we're very good at it. We're very good at it. And look, people will say, well, what about Man City and Arsenal? You're telling me we didn't counter Man City. we literally soaked pressure and and and exploited their high line in inexperienced defense against arsenal we countered arsenal and we scored two worldies that we would really struggle to do it again like dorgu's goal was incredible and so was kunya's so arsenal and man city were brilliant but they were counter-attacking the difference is we had more intensity in those games we were quicker in the way that we moved the ball and the way that we pressured we've we've we've lost that over the last few weeks but it was still counter-attacking football so i think maguire's absolutely spot on i think there is this issue um certainly um there um just on the xg by the way um xg of amrim was 0.62 per game uh this season and carix is 0.54 per game on the xg so it's look the problem under Amrim was that we were top three in chances created shots on goal but couldn't get in the top four Beth came out with an eye opening comment yesterday says Nick our starting our two starting left and right backs have been at the club since 2014 and 2018 respectively What other club with any sort of ambition does that?

46:36Yeah, and I do agree, Nick. I think when you look at Luke Shaw has been here for 12 years. Deleuze has been here for eight years. I mean, look, I like Deleuze, but he shouldn't be starting. I think Deleuze. And I don't want to disrespect John O'Shea, Phil Neville and Wes Brown because they're on a different level. But that team was on a different level. So let's do context, right? You go back to successful United teams, John O'Shea, Wes Brown, Phil Neville, they weren't really starters. You would say they were a bench player. They would start games, but you would say they were bench players and they were really valuable.

47:17But you probably wouldn't start them in your ideal 11, but they're really valuable players. so Deleuze for me where we are at the moment I would have him as that type of a player where he can be a left back, a right back you know if he get injuries the problem with Deleuze is that he starts games and I don't think he's a starter I think he's a bench player and I don't mind having him as a bench player but I think that's what he is but Luke Shaw I mean again it's much worse than the Maguire situation with Luke Shaw I mean I just think he's been crap for weeks and um it it was laughable laughable that people thought he should be on the world cup plane when you think that like mitchell at palace is better than him that's that's luke you know luke shaw is not better than mitchell at palace to think that he's better than lewis hall or nico o'reilly is is incredible so we definitely definitely need a new left back um but i don't know how many how many how many months has luke shaw got left how many months how many years has luke shaw got left on his contract i feel it's only one i mean whoever gave him the bloody contract in the first place needs a slap um yeah we gave him a contract in 2023 when he would have been injured um yeah his contract expires next year so he's going into the final year uh luke Shaw won't leave because he's on good money and no one will pay it.

48:48So he will be here next season. But he needs to be sat on the bench as well. My fear is they'll go, let's not get a left back till Luke leaves and we'll use him next year. That would be a very big mistake in my opinion. Definitely. Let me come back to the chat. Mas Raui is at the club, as Andre says. Mas Raui is at the club and I think he's a very, very good player for Manchester United and a player that should be playing more. I mean, what surprises me a little bit about Michael Carrick is that, you know, he doesn't start Sesco. He doesn't start Sesco, let's be honest. I don't know why. Mbamo's not played well.

49:40in fact on that one very quickly we're not starting sesco which damages his confidence to start embermo which is damaging his confidence it's like a double whammy like sesco suffers from not starting and embermo suffers from starting up front the obvious thing is put embermo on the wing where he'll be happy and put sesco up front where he'll be happy and you're not damaging two players it's like a two for one we're damaging two players by playing embermo up front but the big one as well is Masraoui. I mean, when Newcastle, when we played, it was it we played, was it Palace? It was Palace. When we played Palace at home, they were all over us.

50:19They were killing us down the right-hand side. Remember, Luke Shaw went off because he didn't feel very well. And we brought Masraoui on. And at that point, Palace had about 60 % possession and they were killing us down the right-hand side. We took Luke Shaw off. We brought Masraoui on. It went up to 60 % in our favour and we played a lot better. But he doesn't seem to rate Masraoui either.

50:41I don't know what it is. Look, I've been told things about Steve Holland, nothing bad, but I've been told things about Steve Holland that he's a very basic coach and he'll do basic things. So maybe picking Luke Shaw and Deleu, maybe he knows more about those players. I don't know what it is, but it seems a little bit strange that we go for them over Masraoui. Sports analyst says United are in third position And that's the only thing that matters Well you're a very baseless Thick fan then Nate because it's not all that matters Is it because we're talking about next season We're talking about our manager we're talking about transfers I don't think that's all that matters at all Because if that's all that matters That's the mistake Newcastle Made isn't it we're in the Champions League that's all That matters you're not anymore Spurs we've won the Europa League That's all that matters not anymore it's about next season it's about next season mate and if you haven't picked that up in the last 45 minutes then apologies okay a couple of other things Carrick is south getting disguise is boring and reflects how he sets the team boring says Melvin you know what I don't think I don't think there's a problem with Carrick I said this yesterday I don't think there's a problem with Carrick I saw it with Sir Alex.

52:03You look at Sir Alex when he had Carlos Quares in charge and you look at Sir Alex when he had Rennie Mullinstein in charge and you look at Sir Alex when he had Steve McLaren in charge. All those teams played differently. But people said it was Sir Alex Ferguson team because he's the manager. I think Michael Carrick is a little bit unfortunate that well he's not unfortunate because he chose it but by going with Steve Holland I think he went for a safe pragmatic pair of hands to help out the problem is if he gets the job he'd have to give him the job and I think Carrick could be so much more with a different type of coach um unfortunately the coach he's gone with is it's like a PE teacher, isn't it?

52:51It's just very, you can see it. It's well organized. It's not very exciting. It's England under Southgate, but I don't think South, I don't think Carrick Southgate. I just think the similarity is the assistant coach he's got. And you know what? If you have an Audi and it's silver and you spray paint it black, it's still the same Audi isn't it so if you've got Steve Holland in an England tracksuit and you put him in a Man United tracksuit it's still Steve Holland he's still coaching the team it makes me laugh that people try to say well what about at Chelsea Chelsea was a decade ago he's been at England for the last seven years and now he's at Man United and we're playing very similar to that but what was Carrick supposed to do he was offered the job he went with that but The problem is if you give him the full-time job, you're going to get Steve Holland full-time.

53:47And I think that's the problem. Keeping Real 4-2-1 says, Carrick interview starts the day we lock up for the Champions League. Melchert says, Nagalsman's system is quite rigid and complex too. I think it's complex. I don't think it's rigid. I think he's quite an adaptable coach. But look, my biggest takeaway this morning is what Harry Maguire said. And he said quite a lot of things. that Carrick should go into the process for the manager job and then it should begin. It shouldn't end with Michael Carrick and I think that's absolutely spot on. And if the players are thinking that, the club bloody better do it as well.

54:27Thanks everybody for watching. Why not give Steve Holland credit, Mark? He's saved our season. I give him credit for getting us into the Champions League but remember when they sacked Amram he didn't get sacked on results we were three points off. I think we would have got it anyway. It's debatable, but I think we would have got it. Especially when you think about we didn't have Mbamo and Ahmad and Bruno over that Christmas period and we were still three points off fourth. I think we would have got it anyway. So that's point one. Point two, just because we get Champions League football with Steve Holland doesn't mean I want him to get the job for the next three years.

55:04I would rather say, thanks for what you did. Goodbye. So there we go. And anyway, thanks to everyone for watching. goodbye I will see you well don't miss the two o 'clock show Ben Jacobs it's going to be an absolute cracker we're going to get some big updates around Anderson and a few other bits as well and don't forget it's a seven o 'clock show with me tonight because I'm watching all the World Cup qualifiers on That's Football and Brazil France so we'll be live on That's Football for that later take care everyone stay safe I'll speak to you in a bit

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