362: BIG Tonali and Gomes TRANSFER Update! Carrick PR Continues!

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1:31You really could catch people out. But with the internet now, you just can't do it. Having said that, us missing out on Elliot Anderson and going for Belayba. Maybe not on April Fool's. It could be just a very, very unlucky prediction. We'll have to wait and see. But what we are going to be talking about this morning is big updates around Jao Gomez, Adam Wharton. A little bit about Tenali I want to talk about at the start of the show. Also, Martinez is back from injury. How do you think Maynou and Anderson did together last night for England? because I thought they did crap. As a pair, I thought it was crap.

2:01I thought Anderson did well, but I think as a pair, that would terrify me next season. I don't know how anybody can turn it into a positive. I mean, it was a really crap performance from England and I thought Manu and Anderson didn't work. Also, more PR spin coming out about Michael Carrick. Apparently, we're playing great football, according to an article in The Athletic today. I'll dismantle that in my opinion. And also, Louis Skelly is desperate to join Manchester United. Should he be joining Manchester United? We have an active poll at the moment where 52 % of you are saying no and 48 % of you are saying yes.

2:32We'll get involved in that. But look, we're going to start off very, very quickly. A little bit, well, it's all topical. It's a news show. Make sure you smash a like, get your comments in, subscribe. First of all, I want to start off just to say commiserations to Dorgu. I think Dorgu was playing so well for us when he got injured in January. You know, he will always be the player I associate most with then brilliant games against Arsenal and Man City. The only two good games I think we've had under Carrick and Dorgue played in those. Obviously, he's Danish. He didn't play in the qualifiers. I really hope they were going to get there because he's had a bit of a crap end to the season.

3:09So it would be nice for him to go to the World Cup. They didn't make it. So unlucky on Dorgue. But there is a little bit of a turn around the transfers. There's an interesting story coming out about João Gomez being of interest to Manchester United. Could he be that second midfielder? We want to talk about that. But Tonali losing on penalties with Italy last night to Bosnia means that Tonali is now in the Beléber category where there is no World Cup distraction. So what I'm saying is, is that whoever is going for Tonali this summer, that obviously doesn't help Tonali, but it helps Newcastle. It helps the player and it helps the buyer because effectively you can start now.

3:50And Newcastle, look, there was something that came out from Newcastle's CEO yesterday. I think I mentioned it on the evening show about they don't want another Ezek situation. They want to be in control of who's going. And they want to basically what Newcastle is saying is they want to know who's going very quickly, move them on very quickly and then spend that money very quickly instead of spending it desperately at the end of the window when Ezek's on strike. So I think Newcastle will have a very mature approach to the transfer window because they're not going to be in the Champions League. They do need a little bit of a rebuild.

4:23They also need to accept that they've got a sell to buy. That's just the way they are with the financial fair play. So I think from Newcastle's point of view, Tenali not being in the World Cup, if he's the player they're going to move on, which I think he will be, that means they can get that deal working in June. from Man United's point of view one of the big fears I've always had is that Belaba is not at the World Cup and therefore United can just negotiate with Brighton for the whole of June and make out like it's a good thing but we could do that with Newcastle now if Tenali had gone to the World Cup I think he's sort of like I'm focused on the World Cup I'll speak when I get back from the World Cup and we're probably going to see that with a few players but if he's not going to the World Cup I think players who aren't at the World Cup want to be not centre of attention but they want to get their back for pre-season if you look at United Sesco not going to the World Cup so he'll go and have a holiday in June and he'll be raring to go at the start of July there's a couple of other players like that Mason Mount if he's even fit Luke Shaw so there are players who don't go to the World Cup who are ready they want to get their season ready They want to get a head start and Tonali will be one of those.

5:37So I think if Tonali is leaving Newcastle, June will be key. Now, I mean, look, I'm still of the opinion yesterday that United will not go for Tonali. But some people seem to think that that could still happen if we don't get Anderson. What I'm saying is to those people who believe we could still go for Tonali, him not being in the World Cup is obviously a personal issue. but for anybody that wants us to sign Sonali I think that just became easier because he's not in the World Cup and you can work on that remember Elliot Anderson might wait till after the World Cup and that becomes problematic so we'll have to wait and see what happens with that we will know which midfielders the board will get when they start pushing the PR for those players to the max this board only knows how to do PR says Max Loves Cookies with our first super chat of the morning good morning Max, hope you're doing very well what's the Jao Gomez story Mark well the Jao Gomez story is this and you'll notice that we've got Adam Wharton on the thumbnail this morning now this is just a theory I'm going to throw out this is where I think we're at at the moment in relation to the midfields we are obviously going to go for Elliot Anderson and we know that Elliot Anderson is a target for Manchester City and if he decides that he wants to go to Manchester City I think like Semenyu Man United will drop out very quickly and look elsewhere.

6:58That could happen. We'll talk about Elliot Anderson and Mainu in a couple of minutes. So let's assume Anderson doesn't come to Manchester United. I don't think we are in for Tonali. I personally think when you leak twice that you're worried about his gambling habit, I think you're sort of closing the door on that. I could be wrong. I also don't think they want to pay the money. I think the package for Tonali is putting Man United off. And one thing people aren't really discussing about United is there is clearly a budget that we are working to here. So we have to be wary of the fact that United, just because they're in the Champions League, we're not Man City, we're not Liverpool, we're not Arsenal, we're not going to spend half a billion.

7:39This club is still a glazer football club. We will be limited. And if you want an example of Man United's limitations in the transfer market this summer. You can look at previous ones where we don't buy midfielders, we don't buy positions that we need, but look at right back. There are no conversations about a right back at all. Now, if we were Man City under Pep, do you think he'd look at the right back situation, know it's a problem and go, let's leave it? Do you think Arteta at Arsenal sits there and goes, right back's a problem, let's just leave it because we haven't got the money? Man United aren't doing anything with right back.

8:13They might not do anything with striker. These are two positions that may not be priority. But if you want to win a league title and you want to be in the Champions League every year, you need a bloody good right back and you need a decent backup striker. United aren't even looking at those. We're not buying a right back in the summer at all. We are going Deleu Masraoui next season. I like Masraoui, but he's got limitations. Deleu is a bench player. We're playing in the Champions League in the Premier League next year and we're going with Deleu and Masraoui. There's no rumours about right back.

8:41We're not even looking at right backs. We might not even buy a left back. So there's your limitations on transfers. We clearly have a budget because we're not even talking about positions that big clubs would still go and solve. I mean, look, Arsenal last year went and bought bloody backups for most positions. So there will be a limitation on what we can spend. We're not going to get Tonali and Anderson. And I think if we don't get Anderson and I don't believe we're going to get Tonali, I've got a feeling Adam Wharton is starting to move towards the number one slot. I don't have any I don't have any information about that I just think that Anderson and Man City that's you know at best it's 50-50 Tenali I don't think we're going for and then who's your plan A midfielder and I think Wharton is starting to head into that position the second midfielder though this is what we're going to talk about João Gomez so Manchester United in relation to João Gomez the situation with him this morning is that Man United have a long-standing interest in Xao Gomez and he's someone they're going to consider depending on how other midfield targets work out United want two centre midfielders this summer which makes the likelihood of a transfer like Gomez much larger and also larger and also Wolves are likely to be relegated so his price may be lower than you'd expect for a player of his quality well I can tell you that Xao Gomez's price is predicted to be lower than£35 million And he's had a good season He's 25 And I think as a second midfield option Man United are seriously looking at Giao Gomez And I would expect those rumours Might have heard something To start growing over the next few days Now remember I said this about Anthony A week before it happened in early June Whenever that summer was And the Liam De Lapp story I'm just saying, Jao Gomez, expect that to start to grow, but also expect a bit of competition because there actually is competition for Jao Gomez.

10:46And it's not just the likes of an Everton or a Crystal Palace. There are some bigger clubs looking at Jao Gomez and going, he has a trajectory in him. He has a potential in him to go into a bigger club and actually do really well. There's a lot of clubs, I've heard Liverpool, who like the profile of Jao Gomez because at that price, it's worth the punt. And the punt is, yes, Wolves are getting relegated, but the numbers he puts in and the performances he's put in in a poor Wolves side, if you put him in a decent side, those performances could go up another level. And for 35 million, Wolves can't ask for any more.

11:24For 35 million or less, it's almost a bit of a no-brainer for some teams. So United are definitely looking at Xal Gomez. The concern is, well, there's two concerns. The concern is, I think Balaba is United's second midfielder. I think we all know United and Wilcox are lining up Balaba as the second midfielder. I think if they could get their way, they'd go Anderson and Balaba. I think that's where they're heading. Balaba will probably cost north of£60 million, almost double Xao Gomez, and you don't get double the player. So I would still say Balaba as the second midfielder might well be the guy, but for me, I would say Xao Gomez absolutely fine for the reasons we've just spoken about there.

12:06I'd be more comfortable if he was the third midfielder. I still think there is a scenario where United need to go Anderson, Wharton, Balaba, I don't think Wharton and Gomez and that's it is good enough I don't even think Anderson and Gomez and that's it is good enough I certainly don't think Anderson and Balaba is good enough I think United need three midfielders and I don't mind Jao Gomez but I don't know that he should be the second midfield I take him over Balaba every bloody day of the week but I feel like United's third midfielder should be a Scott from Bournemouth or a Gomez from Wolves or an Ampadu from Leeds or a Tyler Adams from Bournemouth.

12:50I feel that that's the profile of the third midfielder, but there's a danger it slips into being the second midfielder. And that's a price thing. That's a price thing, isn't it? You know, I look at the football club in the way I want us to be successful and challenge the top clubs. We've only got Maynard in the midfield, Anderson, Wharton, Gomez. You've got four midfielders, let's go. I think United look at it from an Excel spreadsheet and go, we can't afford three midfielders. Let's get Anderson and Gomez and call it a day. And I don't think that's going to be enough. I really don't. I think when you look at Casemiro leaving this season, Agate, if we keep Agate, let's call it what it is.

13:33If we keep Agate, it's a number in a squad. It's like right back. Let's not bother with right back because we've got Deleuze and Masraoui. if we keep Agate it's like let's keep Agate and then we don't have to buy a third midfielder and that's never gonna work everybody's written Agate off I think Agate's written himself off so if we keep Agate just so we can only buy two midfielders and then we say we've got Maynou two new midfielders in Agate all right you've got four midfielders which is what you need but one of them's Agate if Agate and Casemiro have gone you've got Maynou two new midfielders that's three midfielders for two slots.

14:11Oh, but we can use a kid. A kid should never be part of the roster. They should be extra. So I think we need three midfielders, but I don't hear enough that we're going for three midfielders. I do like Jao Gomez and I agree with James Cave in his super chat. Jao Gomez is the right character, but I worry Balaber is already lined up. Could Balaber have been more of an Amrim target because of his physicality? No, Balaber was definitely Wilcox because when Amrim got sacked, Balaba, the club, have still continued to leak the same stuff about Balaba that they don't care about his performances this season.

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15:18Moto Casino is a social casino. What were prohibited? No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino. America's social casino. Red says, what about Collier? I think with Collier he gets a lot of injuries and what has he actually done on loan? I mean, we're Manchester United, mate I think, what about this? What about that? We need to go and get good players, I think Get me from Poundland, says JT Goated and Patrick Lynch says All the talk about pushing for top targets feels like incredible spin When they end up elsewhere and we end up with third and fourth picks people will say, well, we got something That's really worrying, my opinion Well, let me just talk about the midfield because I do want to just talk about I don't know whether anybody watched the England game last night.

16:01If you were watching my stream, you'll know I didn't get to watch much of the second half because of technical issues. I just gave up in the end. But I did watch the first half. We got a glimpse of Maynou and Anderson together, which some people were quite excited about, myself included, because hypothetically that could be Man United's midfield next season. I actually thought Maynou was quite tidy on the ball. And I think Anderson is all action. but looking at them as a pair, you know, and Japan's not the best team in the world. I like Japan's midfield and their goal was fantastic and they're so tidy on the ball.

16:38But Maynou and Anderson, I like Maynou and I like Anderson, but Maynou and Anderson as a midfield too in a Man United midfield. And all right, if they played really well last night, I'd still say the same. I don't think they played badly. I don't think they played well. if that's Man United's plan can we start wearing blue and just play at home our home games at Stamford Bridge when Chelsea are away I mean I don't get the concept of putting Maynard and Anderson together in a midfield next season and if I was Bruno Fernandes I'd be saying I'm off to Saudi because that's nothing more than another season of trust me bro project we're not meant to be doing a project next year we're meant to be doing let's stay in the Champions League and let's start moving up the league a little bit and play better football.

17:26We can't go for a project midfield next year. And it feels like, I was watching Maynard and Anderson and I was like, there might be some potential here, but this is a project. They're not ready to go. They're both inexperienced and that's our midfield next year. And I'm like, this ain't going to work. I don't think they complement each other that well anyway because Anderson needs to go forward. Maynard needs to go forward. And I don't think either of them really wants to sit. and as we saw with the Japan goal and a couple of times and we've seen it at United the reason you need a Casemiro next to Mainu is that people run off Mainu and he's not very quick he's not really defensively that good Mainu is the sort of player that you could drop into and people are going to laugh you could drop Mainu into a Barcelona midfield and he'd probably be decent at just keeping the ball and keep it rotating I think Mainu works in a possession team where you just want to keep possession and have high possession.

18:20Ironically, that's not United. But you couldn't put Manu with Anderson at the moment because you're going to make Anderson sit and most of his game is not about sitting. And Manu's game is not about sitting. So they don't complement each other very well at all. They might learn to complement each other, but I don't like that word learn. I don't like the word learn. We can't be a project every year. And this is not going to keep people like Bruno Fernandes at the club. And why keep Harry Maguire for another year if we're doing another bloody project? like there are some people in that team that need to you know be doing what we're doing next season which is actually achieving what we can achieve so i i mean look i don't i'll be blunt garner was better than mainu across both games in the first half against um whoever they played last friday uruguay garner garner was better and when garner garner came on yesterday he was better that doesn't mean mainu's bad but um i think garner looked the best midfielder for england across both games.

19:15I don't know what that means. It doesn't mean sign Ghana. It's international football. But what worried me is, is that I like Anderson. I like Maynou. But if that's our idea for next season, it's fucking stupid. You can see the problem straight away. It's going to be learner drivers trying to work together in a Premier League midfield and in a Champions League midfield where we need results from the start. And we can't be sat there next season after five or six games going, this might work in a few months, Carrick will be gone. Carrick can't afford that either. If they think they can give Carrick the job and go with an experienced midfield, everyone's going to sit there and go, don't worry, it's a project.

19:57No, they have not read the room at all. As Mike Keegan was saying with the interim, you appoint an interim without interviewing other people. The minute you give him a permanent job, the heat is on. And if you give him project players and results don't go our way. I'm telling you now, give Carrick the job, don't give him the right midfield, a few bad results and by October, people will be saying Carrick out. 100%. I mean, I think people might even be saying Carrick out in August if we lose a couple of games. So we've got to get experience into that midfield, is my message. Obviously, they're ignoring Bruno Gameres now.

20:33They're ignoring the Tonali story, potentially. I don't know where this experience is coming from, But I think last night was a very big, big focus on the fact that we can't have a midfield next year of a 20-year-old and a 22-year-old or 23-year-old. That is, you know, this is Manchester United's midfield. And Michael Carrick should be putting his hand up and saying, hold on a minute. I didn't come into Man United's midfield at 20 and play with another 22-year-old, did I? You brought me into this midfield and you stuck me with Paul Scholes. I know in Hargreaves, you know, internationals. so why the fuck are we at our lowest point trying to build a team with kids in the midfield like we need you can't you can't and all right Casemiro's losing his legs but he's still one of the most experienced midfielders in world football in the last decade you can't just chuck a couple of kids in the midfield and tell me we're going to be okay so if you're not it aren't if you're not it I mean I don't know I don't know who the experience is though if it's not Bruno Gomez and it's not Tonali, where is this experienced midfielder coming from?

21:36And it seems to me we're following this Chelsea model again of inexperience. Everything we do seems to be very similar to Chelsea. Let's just buy players under 24. Let's get inexperienced coaching. I mean, look, this is not the Chelsea stand, but what makes me laugh about following this model of inexperience is that it's very business driven. It's sort of like, well, if we buy cheap, they retain their value for longer and there may be a resale value and we can hide behind projects. But you look at Chelsea under Todd Bowley and you look at Chelsea under Abramovich. Now, Todd Bowley spent a lot of money, but it's all been spent on potential.

22:17So Cole Palmer, very, very good player. Potential. Fofana,£80 million. Potential. Badashiel, Potential. Casedo, Potential. Ganacho, Potential. There's, you know, De Laat, potential. Everything is potential. And their managers over the last few years, Potter, potential. The bad Lampard, potential. Maresca, potential, really, from Leicester. Rod Rosinha, the definition of potential. And they're not successful. Don't talk to me about club World Cups. They're not successful, right? You look at Chelsea under Abramovich consistently winning Premier Leagues. They won the Champions League. They won FA Cups.

23:00Look at their managers. Sarri, Conte, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Tuchel. I'm probably going to miss somebody as well. Best-in-class managers. And they won things. Now look at them. Inexperienced. They're nowhere near it. And United have looked at it and gone, it could be more expensive to go best in class so let's go inexperienced because it's never fucking worked anywhere and you know Chelsea is such a good example their model that we seem to be interested in doesn't fucking work they're nowhere near winning titles because they're going for inexperienced people all the time you know if Chelsea got Luis Enrique in Luis Enrique at Chelsea is exactly what Chelsea were doing under Abramovich but they're not doing it.

23:47They're going for an experience and we're bloody copying them. It's mad. I don't get it. So I do think in relation to the midfield, I'm a little bit concerned, well, I'm a lot concerned about, yeah, we might buy a couple of players who are 22 who are very good, but it's not just about being good. Wharton's going from Palace to Man United. Anderson's going from Forest to Man United. Balaba's going from Brighton to Manchester United. You can't just put a Man United shirt on and be, hey, I'm Roy Keane. Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be prime Paul Scholes. We know what this job's about. And to not go with experience, I think is scary.

24:26But when you've got an inexperienced CEO and an inexperienced director of football, you end up with inexperienced choices. And we've seen it time and time again. And the only thing that's worked in the last two years is Kunya and Embermo as genuine Premier League proven players. And even they've wobbled. You know, I like Cunha and Embermo and they have been good, but has Embermo played well for the last six weeks? No. Has Cunha had a bit of a wobble? Yes. So even experienced players at Man United will have times of struggle. Going for inexperienced players, bloody hell. I mean, look, Le Mans has been fantastic, but that's a little bit different because we have done that with a goalkeeper before and his name was David De Gea.

25:12And also, goalkeeper's not the same as an outfield player, is it? It's not the same as playing in the midfield. And Le Mans has been fantastic. Let me talk to you just very quickly. We may as well bring this in. So another story this morning about Lewis Skelly being very interested in joining Manchester United. Man United are apparently scouting him. Arsenal willing to sell him. There's not been any mention of price. I've put a poll in this morning. Would you sign Lewis Skelly? 51 % of you are saying no 49 % of you are saying yes He'll be 20 in September Obviously burst onto the scene With Arsenal a couple of years ago Lots of hype Lots of excitement Looked like he was going to be a left back Then he played in the midfield Then he doesn't play at all Obviously scored a goal And did the Haaland celebration People said his ego was out of control Arsenal clearly looking to sell him Man United apparently looking to buy him For me it's a no It's really simple.

26:09It's a no. And United will probably do it because it fits the profile of a player that is young, that's got future value, that might turn into a good player. But I've just answered my own question. Every part of those reasons is a no from me. Because why do I want potential when I've already got Amas and Lyon? Why do I need to buy another potential left back? Also, Arsenal are going to want north of 40 million, I think, which is ridiculous. He's also been a bit of a flop at Arsenal for the last year. Why would I want an Arsenal reject effectively? And why would I want to put money in the pocket of Arsenal?

26:51So these are all reasons where I would go, there's a guy at Bournemouth who will get for the same price, who's ready to go, had an amazing debut season in the Premier League and his name's Truffaut. Why would I go for another prospect who, again, I mean, we've got Dorgou as well. Why would I go for another prospect left back that I've got to wait and see if they can settle and do well? I don't know why we're doing these types of deals. I don't know why we're linked to these sort of deals. Obviously, I don't know whether we're going to do it. But I just don't get it. You've got Dorgou, Amas, Leon.

27:22Why would I give Arsenal good money? He hasn't done that well at Arsenal for the last year. He's clearly a reject at Arsenal, whether you want to call it that or not. And why do I want a player that may or may not be a good player in the next few years? I mean, it's like the midfield. I don't want Luke Shaw at left back, but I don't want another bloody prospect. There are certain positions in that team where we've got to stop obsessing about future value and realise you're going to sack whoever your next manager is if you load him up with problems. Amorim was trying to build something and he lost his job because they didn't give him the right players in the right positions they gave him too many prospects and they left a hole in the midfield and he got the sack rightly or wrongly whatever you want to call it the next manager could be a bloody could be Michael Carrick could be an experienced coach they ain't going to last five minutes if you load them up with projects because United is about results and it's about the now and we haven't been decent for 12 years and we need to start.

28:31We're going to be in the Champions League. We've got to stay there. It's not excusable to be in the Champions League next year and then go, well, we have got a load of prospects. So if it doesn't go well, we are building for the future. You've got to build for the now. Potential signings only retain or gain value if they reach their projected levels, says Emily. How many of those signings have come off for Chelsea and how many have flopped? How many would they make a profit on, says Emily Derry. Well, I call it the João Pedro effect, Emily. I think João Pedro is an interesting player at Chelsea.

29:01You know, I'd never really looked at him. Is he a striker? Is he a number 10? Is he consistent? Is he top class? João Pedro is a really interesting player because I think if you put João Pedro in a Man City side, he probably succeeds and he probably scores lots of goals. But you put him in a Chelsea side, it's debatable whether he's decent. Every now and again he gets a goal and then they'll have three or four games where he does nothing. But that's because he's surrounded with inexperience. The class of 92 would probably not have been as good as they are if they didn't have the likes of Roy Keane, Eric Cantona, Peter Schmeichel, Steve Bruce, Gary Pallister, Paulins, all these players around them, Mark Hughes, all these players around them to nurture them.

29:45If you put them in the Man United side now, how many of them would end up being as good as they are? I don't think people realise that the development of a player is so much about what's around them. If you put Maynou into Man United's 99 squad, would he be a better player now two years later? Of course he would. He'd be learning off Roy Keane and Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt and David Beckham and all those players. And people don't appreciate this. And more importantly, owners of football clubs and directors of football don't realise this. They think if you've got a talent, they will be a talent no matter what they do no talent it's like it's like it's like it's like growing a flower in the rain and the frost or growing a flower in the sun and the rain you know you need the rain to water the flower but you need the sun to help it grow and you need to protect it at united we just throw it into any condition and go well it will surely be good and this is the mistake that Chelsea have made and this is the mistake that United seem to want to make.

30:49We want to buy all this young talent, but we don't want to provide the platform for it to grow. And then the club won't grow. So we've got to bring some experience into this team. Melchett says, Mamadou Sangari is one of Lenn's best players, making them compete with PSG for the title. He's a belaboured type, but better. Can't imagine we won't try for him, says Melchert. I would imagine, Melchert, that he will end up at somewhere like Brighton or Newcastle or Leicester aren't in the Premier League anymore, Bournemouth, because they will go and get that player, flip him into a£60 million,£70 million, £80 million player and then sell him to Man United or Chelsea.

31:31But you're right, we should be going for a player like that. Mark, in my opinion, James Garner should be in our top three midfielders. Athletic can shoot, pass, almost a mini Valverde, Premier League proven. What do you think? I do like James Garner. I just think James Garner, Gael Gomez, Scott at Bournemouth, Tyler Adams, all those names should be in option three for Manchester United as a third midfielder, not as option two or one. Mane would actually be better next to a Gael Gomez as Emily Derry. Yes, he would. You're absolutely right. Bit of experience, bit more of a holder. You're absolutely spot on.

32:13Absolutely spot on. Ineos have a history of sacking managers with Nice. I don't think we're going to be buying players to secure any manager's future, to be honest. If so, we would have gotten a sentiment fielder about Amrim. I think this is a great observation by Patrick as well. Ineos do sack lots of managers and blame them for their mistakes. But what I'm saying is, whether it's Michael Carrick or it's Nagalsman as manager next season, how how stable is their future if the transfer window is based on inexperience and prospects um one thing doesn't exist at manchester united anymore is patience um i had this conversation with somebody a couple of months ago and they were saying that look if we get some good young players in i think we can be patient and build and i went i just i'm completely disagreeing i'd complete i do united stand twice a day every day and you know i have my own opinion but obviously I pick up and read a lot of your comments and I look at social media.

33:10There is no patience at Manchester United anymore and it's got nothing to do with me or the media. It's just fans becoming tired. I've seen it with Agate and Dorgou where people are calling them shit after their first game. I've seen it with managers where people are manager. If they don't like the manager, the manager out after one game. There is no patience in this fan base. and if and if sir jim bradcliffe wants to listen to anything from man united fans he should listen to that because he keeps sitting there talking about you know projects and future there is no patience in this fan base and what are you going to do about that you're only going to build patience by actually having a period of performance and good results 10 hours on my feet traffic noise Everybody needs something from me.

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34:46People aren't scared anymore to put their opinion out there very quickly. People aren't scared about, like, when I started doing this 10 years ago, I didn't like Fellaini. And you know me, I've always been quite, well, I was new to this, but you didn't know me personally but i would say if i think a player's shit and you know i was on social media for laney you know i only just started doing this and i was like for laney's shit and people were like you can't say that he gives his all and you'd get quite a lot of crap for it probably rightly so you know but nowadays you know you can say what you bloody well like and some a lot of people will agree with it and that's nothing to do with the changing nature of social media because trust me when i used to go and watch like games in the early noughties at old trafford you could hear the crowd jeering ryan gigs you know getting fed up with him because he was just giving the ball away um so football fans have always been they've had their favorites they've had the people the players they don't like they get impatient but that's the word it's the impatience it's nothing to do with the changing way that people support football i mean obviously you've got player fc and stuff but i don't think i don't think there's football fans out there that just want to go, he's shit, he's shit, he's shit.

35:55I think it's just there's no... I think people see the mistakes earlier. And that's patience. Like, if you buy... If you buy Belaber this summer... If you buy Belaber 10 years ago with Sir Alex, this is a great point. So, imagine Belaber's exactly the same player. He's been crap this season, yeah? We've just won the league with Sir Alex. Pick your year. Let's say 2008. and eight. We've just won the league and the Champions League. And he buys Balaba from Brighton. I know because I lived it, people would go, that's interesting. That's really interesting. I don't think he's been that good for Brighton.

36:33There's definitely potential, but I don't think he's been that good. But we've won the league. We've won the Champions League. Let's trust Sir Alex. Let's give it, let's see, you know, maybe he's going to be a player in two or three years time. And you have that patience because you have that trust in the club's doing well and it's done well for years and you trust the manager. So Belaber coming in in 2008, you'd probably go, okay, that's fine. Give him time. And maybe in the first three months, he doesn't do that well, but you go, look, it's a project. Let's see. You bring Belaber in this summer and he starts off badly.

37:06Everyone's going to go, I fucking knew it. I knew he was shit. I said, I told you, I told you he was shit. The red flags were there. Wilcox is a bloody idiot. Ineos are crap. Belaber's crap and that's what I mean about patience it's not about modern society or you know football fans being negative it's literally about the way the club behaves you earn patience I think there was patience in the Moyes Van Gaal and Mourinho era there was a little bit of patience in the Solskjaer era because they were all new Moyes was the proven Premier League manager Van Gaal was the proven experience manager Mourinho was one of the best managers in the world and then Oli was the ex-player so I think all of them for the first however many years did get experience did get patience in the fan base but i think by the time we hit ten hog the patience just disappeared and that you know that's it's hard then if you're ten hog it's hard if you're amrim and it'll be hard for the next guy but the patience is not there in the fan base anymore and you see it managers new signings people will make their mind up very quickly and go i can see where this is going i'm not being fucking patient and our fans wrong to do that you know if we appoint the manager that you don't thinks the right manager and we buy the players that you don't think are the right players and the results don't look like they're going to happen are you going to sit there and go well let's give it a couple of years or are you going to go i knew this was going to happen they are idiots and it is the owner's fault you're absolutely right back um dan says do you think deserve going to spurs means it's carrick and uh and a guilesman for the manager's job is that uh why you were so happy to announce this as dan um you know what i never ever thought about um um deservey going to spurs meaning that he couldn't come to man united and you're the first person and that's stupid of me but you're the first person to highlight that um look it's a name off the list definitely and i am happy about that um i don't think deservey was a good fit for manchester united i think he might have been i think he might be a good fit for spurs um but look i just think that was more of a football excitement that i think deservey at spurs makes that relegation battle a little bit more interesting now.

39:12But yeah, I am happy he's not going to be the Man United manager. Talking about the Man United manager, obviously there's a lot of PR going around at the moment in relation to Michael Carrick and him getting the job. I saw something in The Athletic this morning, which is basically about how Michael Carrick has changed Man United's football. More passing, fewer crosses, lower pressing. In fairness, it's quite a balanced piece because basically it is, I think, overarchingly, I think it's quite a positive Carrick piece. They're trying to say that, you know, the results are better than Amarim. So the way that Carrick's got Manganited playing is a positive.

39:52But I think if you are like me and you're a little bit more on the fence, more passes, fewer crosses, lower pressing, less intensity is not necessarily something that I think is going to be sustainable in the future. um and the funny thing is it talks about how we're passing the ball more um and um our 10 pass sequences has gone up from 9.7 per 90 to 12.2 per 90 under carrick um and uh our passes per sequence has gone up from 3.4 to 3.9 under carrick but ultimately it depends what you want because intensity and speed look i was having this chat yesterday on um with our with our coach on baller league we lost 5-3 on monday we had 60 possession um and we had more shots more clear-cut chances maybe we should have won it but i didn't feel like we should have won it but the stats say we should have won it we had more clear-cut chances and we had 60 possession and I was saying I'd rather have had 40 % possession had the same amount of clear cut chances because they they would have been more on the break and I think obviously I'm talking about baller league there but with Carrick and Amrim I liked the intensity of Amrim's play in the way that we pressed and we moved the ball I still think it was counter attack under Amrim though I still think we counter attacked under Amrim I'm not going to say that we didn't but i think with carrick it's slower and it's less intense so i don't think there is a hidden gem behind an article saying carrick's got man united playing well i don't think he has i think michael carrick has got united playing strategic pragmatic well organized and in a system where a lot of these players want to play 4-3-3 um but but i don't think there's a PR piece that the football's great.

42:00I refuse that. I refuse that. And also, we can talk about 10 past sequences, but I did the video a couple of weeks ago. Our possession is low. It's been low all season. It was low under Amrim and it's low now. We're hovering around 50 % to 52 % possession in most games. We're nowhere near the 60%. We're nowhere near the 70%. We're not that type of team. So we're not a possession team. We've not been a possession team all season. I think in Carrick we're defensively better set up I think we play deeper Which is why Maguire's playing I think we play deeper More on the edge of our box And we counter I think under Amrim We played higher and more intense Which probably led to us not being as good defensively I don't think either system really works In the long term What I'm trying to say is I don't think there's anything from what Carrick's doing That would make me go this is amazing for next season in fact quite the contrary i don't think steve holland's southgate ball is going to work long term um which is why if carrick gets the job i think he needs to change the way he plays and i don't know whether that will happen but yeah i don't think you can sell a story on carrick's style of play because i mentioned it at the start um arsenal and man city were fantastic since then i just don't think it's been very good and and look arsenal and man City were fantastic.

43:23I loved those games. They were brilliant. The intensity was there. Obviously, that's fell off since because I don't think we're training in the same way, so I don't think we can be as intense as we were. The intensity's fallen off. The excitement, therefore, falls off. But in defence of Carrick, Manchester City played with a reserve back four and a high line at Old Trafford, and we love to counter. Arsenal at the Emirates have to attack us and we love to counter so we did play two teams in arcel and man city that are perfect for a team that wants to sit deep and counter and we did and we could have scored 10 against man city but it was all counter so we have a we have a team that that suits us and that's a team that i mean i'm surprised we didn't beat bournemouth i'm really surprised we didn't beat bournemouth because they're perfect they're absolutely perfect for the way we want to play and so are brighton but yeah I mean look my stance hasn't changed I don't want Carrick to get the job I'm very worried about his coach and his style and I don't think it will be sustainable in the future and I do think that every time we've played two games a week we've struggled you think about West Ham away we played at the weekend you think about Newcastle away we played at the weekend you look at Bournemouth away although it was a Friday we'd played on the Sunday I think we really struggle when we play two games a week at the moment so for me it's a wholesale change in the summer I think we need a different way of playing and we need a lot of new players bringing in that's sort of my stance on it Carrick only offers incremental improvement over a previous Steph set up which was too convoluted when the novelty of this wears off I fear it will unravel says Stuart I think that is a fair point as well I do worry about the novelty value the interim to permanent is is night and day the situation as an interim is different to that as a permanent and we saw it with ollie and we've seen it with dematio and we've seen it with loads of other people there's a different vibe to be an interim and then when you get the permanent job you've almost got to start upsetting people and players become tired um you need that look our manager position's a little bit like the midfield position it might work within experience i think we need experience and with the manager it might work within experience but i think we need experience um how about best in class for the united stand we need one tier one or at least two tier two journalists not ben jacobs as facts yeah but mate that's your personal opinion and ben jacobs has been right on loads of things and uh you know we're not going to change that so thank you very much for your super chat do you think deserve be going to Spurs.

46:08I've done that one. And Goretzka is the third midfielder for Champions League experience as one-inch wonder. Goretzka's over 30, mate. Do you really want to go and buy a Bayern Munich midfielder who's very good, who's over 30? I think we've done that before. You know, you can't say, let's not get Carrick because we did it with Oli and then say, let's get Goretzka, but forget what happened to Schweinsteiger. Emily Derry says, there's no patience in the fan base, but deep down there is no patience in Glynios and their minions for a project either. Uh, patience is an excuse, says Emily. Thank you very much.

46:41Uh, done Patrick's as well. Okay. Um, Ned's just had a lovely morning dump. And on that bombshell, um, I think we will, we will, we will stop the show. Um, what day is it? Wednesday. I am back with you at eight o 'clock tonight because there is no international football. Thank God. That was a bloody joke last night. Um, eight o 'clock show with you tonight. We've got two o 'clock show, uh, this afternoon as well. if you didn't watch live get your comments in as always have a great day stay safe and i will speak to you later

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