385: INEOS SHOCKING Transfer PLAN!

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1:18Not from my mouth, not from Ben Jacobs' mouth. This is from the mouth of Fabrizio Romano. that United's intention is this. The plan for the summer transfer window is still very basic with nothing concrete. The plan from within the club is to first guarantee Champions League qualification, then make a final decision on the manager, and then after that, only begin planning for the summer. I mean, look, I said this last night on the Saturday show. Historically, Ineos worked slower than the Glazers. I mean, this is slow. This is proper slow. I mean, to be in that position, I mean, is anyone going to come out and defend this?

1:58I mean, it's incredible. Incredible. I can't find the direct quote from Romano and it might not be true, but there's even some aggregators out there saying that we've made no contact with Anderson at all, despite him being a number one target with us for nine months. And you sort of do look at it. And I agree with Martin. This is a joke. This doesn't matter whether you're pro Wilcox or pro Ineos or Glazers or what. It doesn't actually matter whether you're Brighton or Man United. to not have plans in place for your summer transfer window because you're waiting to tick things off is why we will always fail because football doesn't work like this.

2:31Football doesn't work. You know, it's like, you know, having a paper round in the 90s and, you know, you want to buy yourself a computer game and you save the money each week and you're only buying it when you've saved the money. You're not going to borrow it off anybody or anything like that. You're just going to buy it when you've saved up. We're not, that's not how the world works in football. You can't just go, well, we're not talking to anybody until we've done this, this and this. If you snooze, you will bloody well lose. We've also got a big update coming in on Fabrizio, not on Fabrizio, on Marcus Rashford as well.

3:00So look, lots to get into on the show this morning. Also a bit of an update on Edison. Sorry, I've been out at a football match this morning and I sprayed my face in sun cream, which you should do. You know, you've got to protect your skin. But there is a gleam on my forehead that you could probably use it as a mirror at the moment. I apologies for the distraction of my shiny forehead. But yeah, you could eat your dinner off that. It's shine bright like a diamond, isn't it? Anyway, try not to get distracted. There are some serious topics to talk about. But anyway, look, I have to say what are your thoughts on that?

3:37The plan for Man United is to get Champions League football first, then make a decision on the manager and only then begin planning for the summer. This is slow. This is slower than a snail's turd. It's really slow and it's not actually acceptable. And it is quite concerning, but it is what's been happening for the last couple of years at United. We tend to ignore June, if we're being honest. We like to put out little briefs to the journalists that the transfer window doesn't actually open till the middle of June. And it's like we don't start working till then. We have such a small opportunity.

4:17Forget the size of the window, right? We have so much to do in such a short period of time. We've got to get a manager, even if it's Carrick, you've then got to go and decide who's going, who's staying. and it just feels a little bit unambitious, if I'm being honest. And it also feels like, you know, a lack of ambition can be a lack of desire, but a lack of ambition can be a lack of conviction in the sense of it's unambitious to wait and let everybody else do stuff. It's unambitious to do nothing, but it's also unambitious to not do stuff. And I do sometimes wonder if United's tactic is this. Well, we do want that player, but he's gone now.

5:00Oh, we do want that manager, but he's signed a new contract now. And is that convenience? Oh, you know, we did really want Thomas Tuchel, but he has signed a new contract to England, so that saved us 15 million. Carrick's only going to cost five. I mean, you can start with your theories on that because I do think there's an element of truth to it. A lack of ambition can be tactical. Well, we really, really want Elliot Anderson. You've not picked Elliot Anderson's agents there. Do you want to talk? No, we're waiting. Do you realise we're about to sign for Man City? Yeah, we really, really want Elliot Anderson.

5:34I'm here. I want to talk to you now. What's your offer? We're waiting. But we really, really, really want him. He signs for Man City. Oh, we really wanted him as well. Yeah, that's just saved 100 million and 250 grand a week. That is what worries me. It's the lack of ambition, which is actually, I think, calculated in certain circumstances where, oh, we really want this. We really want that. We really want that. Oh, they've gone there. They've gone there. They've gone there. Oh, no, we'll have to get the labour. So, look, I personally. And tell me whether you agree or you don't. I mean, it was only a month ago we were in the March international break saying United need to be talking to players.

6:14I think it's safe to say in the March international break, United had a holiday because we didn't speak to any managers and we didn't speak to any players. And that's coming in from credible journalists. So in the March international break where we had three and a half weeks off, United did nothing. Absolutely nothing. We didn't speak to managers. We didn't speak to agents. We didn't speak to players. We literally sat on our arse for three and a half weeks and did nothing. to add to the three and a half months we've sat on our arse and done nothing since Amarin was sacked. So, you know, G-Man says stay calm, no need to panic.

6:49We will buy players. Of course we'll buy players, G-Man. I'm not saying that it's going to be, you know, a wipeout of a summer. But the problem is by the time we start doing stuff, what's available? And maybe that's a tactic. We want to operate in a market that's very small and very cheap. you know and as Malepa says all roads at the moment lead to Carrick and the star signing Belaber and I think that ultimately isn't going to be good enough but you know Liam says oh no so like four more months of Belaber talks it's close so close closer than close I mean if if Man United's plan on a serious note is to give the job to Michael Carrick and chase Belaber all summer reap the whirlwind of shit you're going to get because you ain't exciting anybody No one's going to get excited by that.

7:39If you bring in, I don't know, Nagelsmann and Chouamini or Tonali, you will get excitement. But if they're going to spin this out as it's just pure incompetence, in my opinion. But some people might think it's excellence. You know, one man's plate of shit is another man's plate of lasagna. Patrick Lynch says it looks like they're looking at everything and thinking this is all right, isn't it? Do they not realise that despite our position in the table, we're struggling to maintain just this next season is going to be even tougher? Look, even in relation to, like, if what Romano is saying is true, and, you know, why would he say it?

8:20First of all, it's Champions League. Then it's the manager. Then it's the players. How many weeks are we thinking there? I don't think we can officially get Champions League until next weekend at the earliest. We can't get Champions League football until Brighton lose to Newcastle because, I mean, if we beat Brentford tomorrow, which I think we will, the earliest we can get Champions League qualification is when Brighton lose to Newcastle. If they beat Newcastle, it goes on another week unless we beat Liverpool. So next weekend is the earliest we can get Champions League qualification. then you've got to go through the manager process which could be so next weekend's the start of May let's say we announce the manager in the next week or two after that that's the middle of May so the middle of May is when we start talking about targets well the World Cup starts in the middle of June I just think it's there must be a reason behind this and all roads lead to financial I just can't figure it out yet.

9:22My prediction, Carrick gets a three-year deal, says Adnan. Underwhelming signing in the summer. Don't address squad depth issue for Champions League. Back to sixth or ninth next season. Same old, same old. Stuart Chase, thank you very much for your super chat, says, genius. Delay the appointment of a manager so you can claim there was only time for three or four transfers. Well, they love that. They absolutely love that. They love to delay stuff. Talking of which, and I don't want to overload people's concerns this morning, but this came in from Fabrizio Romano this morning as well on Marcus Rashford scored a good goal for Barcelona yesterday.

9:57Look, honestly, I don't get what Barcelona are doing. They've got Rafinha, they've got Olno, they've got Jamal, they've got, what's his name, Fernand. They've got auction and they've got Rashford. They've got good players. And Rashford's done quite well for them. He's had a decent season for them. I don't know why they're not happy just to take Marcus Rashford because he's happy there. He's done quite well. He offers them something. But this is what Romano had to say. And remember, if Rashford comes back, that presents two major problems for Man Utd. If Rashford signs for Barcelona, it's over.

10:37There's nothing that needs to be done. He's gone. He moves on with his career and we move on with ours. That's more time to do other stuff. if Rashford doesn't go to Barcelona or we spend all summer negotiating with Barcelona, that's time we don't have. If you've got a four hour slot this afternoon and you've got to clean the car, make the dinner, cut the grass and that's your four hours, right? And then you go to the toilet and get constipated for an hour, something's got to go. The grass is getting long or the car's not getting washed, yeah? This is the thing about the Rashford deal, right? If he doesn't go to Barcelona easily, we are then allocating time on a big deal.

11:18Or if he stays, that causes its own problems as well. So this is a frustration again, because it's time on something that wasn't meant to be time. And we haven't got a lot of time this summer. But look, Fabrizio says, on Marcus Rashford, my understanding is that at the moment Barcelona are pushing on, let's renegotiate the loan deal for another year. United are saying buy the player for 30 million or he is returning here and we assess what's the best solution for him. Direct sale to another club or anything else, Barca are also considering alternative targets. So I just think in relation to Rashford, here we are talking about, well, we're not talking to any players and that's the breaking news this morning.

11:57We're not talking to players. We're not in advanced talks with any player. That's what's coming out. Nothing's concrete, not from me, not from our source, not from you, from Fabrizio Romano. Nothing is concrete at the moment until we've got Champions League football and appointed a manager. Incredible. Incredible. When we need three midfielders, a left back, a left winger, a striker and a backup goalkeeper. We're not in advanced talks with anybody because we're waiting to give the job to Carrick and get Champions League football. I mean, what are we waiting for? My big answer is if the process is Champions League football, new manager, then we'll start talking to players.

12:36Hello? Hello? You're going to get Champions League football and most people think you're giving it to Carrick. So why are we waiting? If you're actually going to interview managers, sort of understand. If there was any jeopardy for the Champions League, sort of understand. But everyone thinks you're giving it to Carrick and everyone knows you've got Champions League football. So what are you waiting for? What are you waiting for? Makes no sense. But the irony of this is that Barcelona are obviously making their mind up about Rashford and want to talk about it. Clubs are doing stuff. Man City are an advanced talks with Anderson, Chelsea are getting close to giving the job to Iriola.

13:16I don't know whether Iriola should get the job, but this reports this morning also from Romano, Chelsea Iriola is getting closer. They had a manager last week. They might have a new manager next week. We sacked our manager in January and we still don't know what we're doing. and this is what I mean about delays snooze you lose I will argue with anybody about defending slow owners you will lose in football if you are slow you will lose Chelsea thought Rosinho was their manager a week ago he's gone and now they're close to giving it to Iriola if you snooze you lose it's as simple as that but on the Rashford situation I do sometimes fear and I don't know what you think, that United think they can negotiate with Real Madrid and Barcelona and Bayern Munich and Man City and we probably can't even negotiate with Everton these days.

14:15We do not have any power in the Rashford race at all. And sitting there and saying, we want 25 million, we want 25 million. Well, ultimately, you almost want to go, they're not going to pay it. They're not going to pay it. So what are you going to do? Are you going to loan him out for another year to cover his wages off? Or are you going to bring him back and watch nobody else take him as well? Are you actually going to integrate him back into the squad? So it's all right, United saying, we want 25, we want 25, we want 25. They don't have to pay it. They don't have to pay it. And Barcelona have got the power here, especially if Rashford want...

14:52What if Barcelona have said to Rashford, we really, really want to keep you, but Marcus, you've been at Barcelona. we really want to keep you if we give Man United 25 million that 25 million can go on a player that's going to make us better next year with you here anyway so we want you to stay but we want to keep you on loan still pay your wages, still get your game time but we want you to stay but we want to use that money to make the team stronger which benefits you anyway they might have Rashford on board, they might be like look obviously understand that you want us to sign you but we want to buy a couple of other players and keep you.

15:32So you either go back to Man United or you stay here as a loan player. And if Rashford wants to stay, you've got Rashford wanting to stay at Barcelona, you've got Barcelona wanting a loan deal. What play have Man United got? No, we're not doing that. So I think it's a difficult one. But my only concern about Rashford is just the amount of time it's going to take to resolve that when we've seen it so many times before. We can't work on more than one deal at once. So it's the summer transfer window. You need three midfielders, but you're also negotiating with Barcelona about Rashford. And then it falls through and then you've got to negotiate with somebody else.

16:16We're making jobs for ourselves that we haven't got time to do, you know, and that's the problem. If we do get a left winger Where do you see Kunya playing mate Says Brett I think this is a great point Like if we buy a left back What we're doing with Luke Shaw You know A summer transfer window Is full of You know Optimism and fantasy When you're talking about it In late April Early May But by the time you hit July You start to hit the reality of Well we're not getting a centre back Are we because we've given Maguire a new contract. We're not getting a left winger because we're probably bringing Rashford back.

16:55We're not really going to get a left back because we're not going to bench Luke Shaw on 170 grand a week, are we? And I don't want to say those things, but we didn't buy a midfielder last summer and we desperately needed one. So nobody can say to me, oh, you know, you're being a bit negative there. We will get a left winger. We will get a left back. I mean, you have to look in reality. We're not going to buy a centre back, are we? because we've got Heaven, Yoro, Maguire, Dalit, Martinez. We're not going to buy a centre-back when we've got five centre-backs for two positions. We're not going to buy a left-back, are we?

17:27Because we've got Luke Shaw and Dorgou can play there. I can start to see things that they don't do because they run out of time and they run out of money. But look, even Fabrizio today in his update was saying about the midfield, Man United are looking to buy possibly two midfielders. Possibly two. Possibly two. I mean, have they not figured it out? Seriously, have they not figured it out, right? You play with two midfielders. You play twice a week. They play 90 minutes twice a week. If you buy two midfielders, you've only got three, which means you start two and one's a sub. That's going to fall off a cliff very, very quickly.

18:18We've got to buy, have to buy three midfielders, not two. Have to buy three. Have to buy three. Let me have a quick look at the chat. Sorry, my live chat just completely frozen there, but I hope you're all doing very well as always. It's going to be Belaber, Edison and Scott. Would you be happy with that? Says Ale. I mean, look, we can all build three. What I would say first and foremost is I'd be very happy with three. remember it could be Belaber and Edison and that's not good enough so straight away if it was Belaber Edison and Scott it's not what I want I said last night I think you've got Tonali, Bruno Gamerez, Chumini and Anderson available you've got to get one of them you've got to get an elite one so it can't be Belaber Edison and Scott because you haven't got Tonali, Bruno G, Chumini or Anderson the four of them are available you've got to get one of them as your elite midfield signing so straight away I wouldn't be happy that we haven't got one of them but I would be happy with three.

19:15So, you know, we've got to get three. Tristan says, it's my best friend's birthday. Can you give him a chat up, please? It would have been really useful, Tristan. I noticed your chat would have been very useful if you told us his name. Fail. Happy birthday to Tristan's friend. I never thought I'd ever say this, but I'd rather we just had the Glazers. We're becoming the English niece, says Dirty Deed Devil. Yeah, I mean, I sort of refuse to go down the road of the Glazers being better than Ineos. But there's, I mean, if we're being completely honest, there's not a world of difference, is there, really?

19:51Rub says, morning, lads. I hope you're doing very well. Thank you very much. What do you think is going to happen with Agate? Yeah, yeah, I know. I sort of think I know where you're coming from there. Yes. Okay, let me address this. So there's a lot of talk that, you know, I want to get rid of Agate. But just imagine this scenario for a moment, right? We want a left back We want a left winger We want a backup striker We want three midfielders In reality, we've got Luke Shaw and Dorgou We don't need a left back On the left wing, what are you going to do with Kunia? We don't need a left winger Up front, we can play Mbwemo up there We've got Sesko, we don't need a striker and in the midfield, if we keep Agate, we only need two.

20:43So my concern about this summer transfer window is that we all know we need between five and eight players. In fact, let's say minimum of six signings we need this summer because of the volume of games and the problems in the squad. We need six players minimum. We've already been briefed that it might be four. We've already been briefed that it might be four. So I think with the midfield, when you mention Agate, Casemiro's gone. So you've got Maynou and Agate. If Agate goes, you've got to buy three. If Agate stays, you can get away with buying two. If I'm worried about the left back not coming in because we've got Luke Shaw and Dorgou, if they keep Agate, they only need to buy two players.

21:34we've literally given a new contract to Maguire on the same wages so we don't have to buy a centre back so the chances of Agate being part of pre-season I wouldn't say it's beyond impossible because if Agate goes you've only got Maynou you've got to buy three so it look you've got to look at the reality of the summer transfer window because nobody can sit here and say well we will buy a left back we will buy a winger and we will buy three midfielders because last summer we needed a midfielder and we didn't get one. And we didn't get one in January either. So they could easily go, let's buy two midfielders.

22:09We don't need a left back. We don't need a striker. Let's maybe buy a winger. They might only buy three or four. They might only buy three or four players, end of story. And when you're run like Man United's run, do you want to spend 300 million or do you want to spend 200 million? They want to spend 200 million. They're a business. we want to spend three. We want to spend 300 million because we know the problems and we know what needs to be done. But the way that clubs run, considering the Glazers have never put a pound in and Ineos are there to make money as well, if they can spend 200 million on pounds on transfers, they'll argue why they should.

22:48Now, in fairness, Wilcox might be there going, we do need a left back, we do need a winger and be arguing for it. And they might just go, no, we don't. We're paying 170 grand a week to Luke Shaw and you want to buy a left back, remove Luke Shaw. I can't do it. Well, you're not getting a left back. Those conversations have happened at United before, by the way. Like they tried to get rid of Casemiro two summers in a row because of his wage and that stopped us going for more midfielders. So you do have that problem in the summer. I want to buy a left back. We need a left back. Get rid of Luke Shaw then.

23:20Well, I can't. Well, we're not buying a left back while we've got somebody on 170K a week. So it can become problematic. Of course it can. Savage says Mount is a problem. I think Mason Mount is not going anywhere.

23:39And he is a problem. He earns a million pounds a month. Fortunately, he's not a midfielder. He can't play in the midfield and nobody would ever go anywhere near him. So there you go. Glenn C, thanks very much for your super chat this morning. Please do smash a like on the video, by the way, if you're watching. Let's see if we can get 1 ,000 likes. Got nearly 6K watching. Let me know your thoughts I want to just get some of your thoughts About the Breaking news coming out from Fabrizio Romano That Man United are not in talks With transfers at the moment Nothing is concrete First they want to qualify for the Champions League Then they want to sort the manager out And only then will they start talking about Transfer plans Let me just say If United like Edison And Atletico Madrid Agree a fee with Atalanta tomorrow He signs for Atletico Madrid We sit here waiting For Champions League football And the manager Before we discuss it That's it And Edison's just an example Anderson might decide To go to Man City Because we never talked to him You are missing out on players Because you are working To your own ridiculous parameters again We won't buy players over 26 We won't buy players until we've qualified for the Champions League.

24:58We've sorted the manager out and we've all had a bloody good chat. Yeah, we won't be doing that. But gaffer, gaffer, we could get Wharton. He's in advanced talks with Liverpool, but if we talk to him in the next two days, we've got him. Forget it. Forget it. We're qualifying for the Champions League. We're going to get the manager job sorted and then are booked as a lovely meal in Manchester. We're all going to have a bloody good chat, but not till the middle of May. So if Wharton doesn't want to wait, Wharton can go. And that's the joke for me. It's the rigidness. And this is probably why Nysa failed under Ineos as well.

25:33It's the rigidness of trying to run a football club like a bloody business. And you can't do that. You've got to be quick. You've got to be reactive. You've got to be ready. You've got to take risks. Can you see Favell wanting to stick around If they ignore his manager and player suggestions In favour of Wilcox's in the summer Says Glenn C I mean From what I know about Favell He's very well liked at Manchester United But He won't sit Being Wilcox's understudy for long The one person In the industry At Man United That actually has a level of respect Is Favell Wilcox doesn't have a great reputation Barada doesn't have a great reputation and Sir Jim Radcliffe certainly doesn't but Favell he's come out of the last two years with his reputation enhanced considering he'd been at Chelsea in a very short period of time and gone coming into Man United his CV looks really good and I think it was about three months ago I was talking about this how long does Favell stay at Man United before he gets offered the director of football job somewhere else I mean it could be this summer You never know with those sort of things.

26:45So Favell isn't director of football at Man United, but he's proven that's what he should be doing. Favell should be head of recruitment as a football club, but I think he technically is at Man United, but he's understudy to Wilcox. What I'm saying is he should be a sporting director. I don't think Favell will stay around for long I don't because even if you rate Wilcox or you don't Favell is under Wilcox and we all want promotion so if a club comes in and says we want you if Newcastle came into Favell and said we want you I mean he'd be brilliant for Newcastle wouldn't he I don't know whether Newcastle need him but at Newcastle he'd be brilliant because if you look at Favell if I'm the owner of a football club and I look at Favell I go look at some of the deals he's worked on at Chelsea at Man United but also he's brilliant at youth recruitment so if we need to bring in a French midfielder who's playing in mid-table French football and he's 20 and we get him for 15 million and in 18 months he's worth 50 million those sort of deals are exactly what Favell's good at so I don't know how long he will stay at the football club as an understudy to Wilcox.

28:00Not because he doesn't like Wilcox, but because I think he is good enough to be a sporting director for a football club. So it's a great point. I've not heard anything, but we did talk about it three months ago, didn't we, Glenn? And I don't think he will hang around for that long when he gets offered a better job because it's promotion, isn't it? You're understudy to Wilcox or you've got Wilcox's job at another club, you know? Al Amir says, fact number 22. Sorry, fact number 22. Ineos are adamant on channeling all revenues to the stadium, basically drafting to delay decisions on recruitment. They don't want to spend.

28:35Well, look, slightly boring for a Sunday morning, but we sometimes spend, look, we spend between 20 and 60 million pounds a year in debt interest. That doesn't reduce the debt. That's just interest on the debt. when we start building this stadium it ain't magic beans it's two billion pounds on a club that's already got a billion pounds of debt and it will be private investment but if i'm a private investor i'm not going to see jim radcliffe and saying here's two billion to build a stadium i don't want anything in return why would i spend two billion on a stadium out of the goodness of my heart for man united i'd say well you that's i want 25 in the club then because that's you paid less than that for 25 % of the club.

29:24That's not on the table. No one's looking to buy Man United. So if I'm that private investor and I say, look,£2 billion, build the stadium, I'm getting something back. It's either£3 billion back in repayments, or it's ownership of the stadium, or it's a percentage of earnings for the next 20 years. People don't want to have this conversation, but private investment doesn't work. You've got a billion pounds of debt, you borrow 2 billion to build the stadium, and that 2 billion doesn't sit with the club. So we have got to start thinking like, we are in debt. We pay hundreds of millions of pounds a year in debt interest, transfer fees that are owned.

30:10We've now got to find a way to fund a stadium that's going to cost at least£2 billion. And there'll be some sort of debt attached to that. So that money is not going to... If we'd been bought by Qatar, they would have built that stadium out of the goodness of their heart. They'd have just built it. And there would have been no debt on the club. As we know with the Glazers, they wouldn't give you the steam off their own piss, let alone pay you for a stadium. So this has got to get paid for somehow. Will it have an impact on our ability in the transfer market? I don't think they dare talk about it at the moment, because if they said this summer will be challenging because of the stadium that's got to be built, but isn't even being built yet, that would be bad PR.

30:57I think once it starts getting built, I think we will have regular summer transfer windows where they go. It's a challenging market because we're trying to build this super stadium as well. I think that will start happening and it probably will be a factor this summer. I don't think they'll say it's a reason, but it has to be. Where is this money coming from? I don't know. Yeah. Gaz says none of the last 15 minutes is factual. It's all Mark's feelings. Well, I mean, instead of preaching your non-factual statement, why don't you come back with something? Because I think everything I've spoken about in the last 15 minutes is completely and utterly viable.

31:33And we are the biggest and best Man United fan community in the world. And a lot of our conversation, hello, is debate. But please tell us, Gaz, in your infinite wisdom this Sunday lunchtime, how the fuck Man United are paying for£2 billion stadium over the next 10 years? How are we doing that when we've already got debt and issues? How are we doing it then? Is the magic fairy coming down with your tooth and giving us£2 billion? You can even get in the real world, or you can get in the fantasy world. And as we were talking about, when Fabrizio talks about we're not talking to players yet because we've got to get Champions League football and a manager first, has anybody actually thought this club is so risk-averse, they don't want to do anything until it's absolutely factual that we've got Champions League football?

32:30Does it not concern people that we won't do anything until we've got Champions League football? Even though we all know we're going to get it, the club is so risk averse, they won't even dare risk starting to talk to players until the Champions League is absolutely nailed on. Even though we know we're going to get it, the club won't start talking to players until it's absolutely factual and no one can take it away. Does that not tell you something about our funds? that even though we know we're going to get Champions League football at some point in the next four weeks, because to not get it, we'd need to lose four games in a row, they still won't talk to people until absolutely Omar Barada can say, there it is, absolutely confirmed, we've got the Champions League money.

33:16Is it not concerning that we won't do anything until we've got Champions League football? Because other clubs would go, we're definitely going to get it, get on with it. This is going to help us next season, but we won't do it. So you talk about facts. Well, we're not in the boardroom. We can't have facts. We don't have that information, but we can take a very good calculated guess that United financially are shitting themselves because they've got to build this stadium and they're not moving on players until they know they've got that Champions League money, which suggests that it's precarious.

33:56And look, I hope I'm wrong, Gaz. I really hope I'm wrong. I hope we are buying a left back. I hope we are buying a left winger. And I hope we are buying three midfielders. But if I said to you, do you want to bet£100, we're going to get a left back, a left winger, and three midfielders? Or do you want to bet£100 that we don't get a left back and we stick with Shaw and Dorgu. We don't get a winger. We bring Rashford back and we stick with Cunyre out there and we don't get three midfielders because we keep a Garte. And

34:30we didn't buy a midfielder last summer. So, you know, look, the proof will be in the pudding. And I always say, we do this every year. What are your expectations for the summer transfer window? I want three midfielders, a left back, a left winger, non-negotiable. Those five players have to happen because the market dictates it. You've got people like Truffaut. You've got people like Mattson. You've got good left backs available, ready to take a step up. You've got people like Noosa at Leipzig, ready to take a step up. And the midfield market is awash with players. So they're out there. We need them.

35:06We have to get those five players. I want more than that, but they're the five non-negotiables. Three midfielders, a left back and a left winger. Do I think we're going to get them, I'd be very surprised. If we don't get them, I won't give this transfer window higher than a six again. And when it comes to August the 31st, you mark the transfer window at a six, don't you? That's what you do. Dioff at West Ham is interesting. Fernandes at West Ham is interesting. These people are available. They're absolutely available. I think after results yesterday, maybe West Ham go down. So there are players at West Ham that we can go for as well.

35:40So there's lots of options out there. And look, look, maybe, maybe we're waiting to get Champions League football. We appoint the manager and then we've got 500 million to spend. Let's wait and see. But either way, I still think it sounds very slow to me. And also, I think this Rashford thing is a little bit of a concern because it's just more time and it will be a very contracted summer transfer window. Obviously, you can talk to Tonali, you can talk to Belayba, they're players that aren't in the World Cup, but the vast majority of players, as we know, will be playing in the World Cup. Are you worried about Arsenal going for Edison?

36:19No. No, I don't.

36:26No. I'm not worried about that because I think that Edison's a decent player and at Arsenal I could see him coming in and being a good supplement to the likes of Odegaard, Rice and Zabamendi. But at United, he can't really be the star signing. He could be the second or third signing. That might make a little bit of sense, I suppose. What do you think about Iriola going to Chelsea, Mark? This is coming in from Fabrizio. Iriola is keen on becoming the new Chelsea manager and would love to remain in the Premier League. I mean, look, as a poll, who would you take?

37:04very very quick get involved Carrick or Iriola who would you take as Man United's manager I'm sat here now I've got the power this poll decides Man United's manager for the next three years it's Carrick or Iriola you have the power you vote for the manager I think Iriola at Bournemouth has done an incredible job they've got the longest unbeaten run in the Premier League they could be kingmakers really because Man City have got to go to Bournemouth. They play really good football. I think at times they play a bit open, but the thing about Iriola is I think the better players he gets, the stronger he'll become.

37:41The dangerous thing, there's two things I would say about Iriola and let's pretend he's going to Chelsea and not Man United. There's two things about Iriola, right? He could do a Vincent company where when you're with Burnley, it doesn't work in the Premier League, but then you go to Bayern and it rips everybody apart. So his style of football could be better with better players because he makes it work with mid-players, if we're being blunt, and players leave and he still makes it work. Like Kirquez leaves, Truffaut comes in. Semenyu leaves, Kruppi comes in. It works. His system works and it works really, really well.

38:18And if you give him better players, it might work even better. So there's a potential improvement with Iriola the better players you give him. the flip side is Bournemouth isn't Man United or Chelsea so he goes to a big club can he deal with big players they're the two dangers with Iriola but I suppose it's only the same danger as Carrick Carrick knows a lot of these players at Man United because he worked with them under Oli and they're senior players so they like him as they go and new players come in and we play more games can Carrick deal with that So, would I take Areola over Carrick? Yes.

38:58It's close, but I would because he's a better coach. He's a better coach. The risk with Areola is, is the Man United job too big for him? The risk with Carrick, is he a good enough coach? So, I think it's about, I probably would take Areola, yeah. and if Chelsea are looking at him then you can't argue about the job being too big for him I think there's too many journalists that have been very disrespectful of Iriola saying the Man United job is too big for him but if he's going to Chelsea why is the Man United job too big for him we're a bigger club than Chelsea but Chelsea is still a big club I agree there MUFC KD says I agree there we should have spoken with players by now with Champions League It's about expanding our team.

39:44Work out Champions League. It's about replacing them. But it might be possible players have been spoken with, but it's not public info. It is. I wouldn't believe that. It's just my take. Knowing how it works. Let's say Man United have spoken to Alex Scott at Bournemouth and have said, keep it quiet for a couple of weeks. We'll talk to you. We'll come back to you. I'm not saying anything bad about Alex Scott and Bournemouth, but if we've approached the player and said, let's just keep this quiet. we get linked to players we're not talking to so players we do talk to and also also let's not forget if Bournemouth know we've spoken to Alex Scott and Alex Scott's agent knows we've spoken to Alex Scott why is it in their interest to keep it quiet it's in their interest for people to know so I don't think we've spoken to people um otherwise it would be out there you know let me just catch up here thank you very much I think I've done those it's probably the old sell before we buy so we'll be waiting to sell Rashford, Rasmus before we get anyone in well Phil's right I mean that could be the next deadline it could be we get Champions League football we appoint the manager but then we'll wait until June to get the money in for Rashford and Rasmus which obviously won't come in till June we might not do any deals until July I don't know I don't know I'm scaremongering completely but we might not start signing players until July for the new financial year.

41:15And we might justify it by going, well, it's the World Cup. We don't need people in for preseason. So when you think about it, last summer, no World Cup, we were all getting very stressed about we need these players in for early July for preseason because we brought in so many players and they missed preseason. For United, they might take it longer this time. They might go, well, there's no point getting them in for July because they won't be able to play.

41:41Why pay a player's wages for a month when they're not here? So if you bought Elliot Anderson and you announced the deal on July the 1st, but England get to the semifinals and he has two weeks off, so he won't even be at the club till August, why would you pay four weeks of wages? That could be a million pounds. So maybe we won't do a lot of business till the back end of July anyway. I don't know Is the answer I don't know Okay Great show this morning Loved the conversation 68 % of you would go for Iriola 32 % of you would go for Carrick Lovely stuff Okay We are back at 8 o 'clock today Make sure you smash a like And subscribe 8 o 'clock live tonight As always If anything happens We'll of course go live I suppose we are starting to Enter those areas now United play tomorrow Of course and three points against Brentford, three points against Liverpool, two home games in the next six days.

42:41I reckon we'll do it. Thanks for watching. Speak to all in a bit. Stay safe. Take care.