403: Iraola MANAGER Talks! Casemiro BACK Carrick!

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0:33Find out your welcome offer after you apply, which could be as high as 175 ,000 points. Learn more and find out your offer at americanexpress.com slash explorer dash platinum. Terms apply. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge, and this is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news and Goldbridge news. I'm half an hour late because I sat on my glasses and had to go and get a new pair. This has happened before. It's the second time. I can't be trusted with optical devices. Literally, the most stupid thing in the world. I've done it twice as well. I remember I've made myself a cup of tea.

1:11I put my glasses down. Instead of putting them on the desk, I put them on the chair. The chair is black. The glasses are black. I come back. I look at the chair. I sit on it. I feel something. I've broken my glasses. So I literally cannot operate on a live stream without my glasses because I can't read the live chat. So I had to go and get some bloody glasses. That's probably the best news you're going to get of the day. Anyway, half an hour is not too bad. And Bermot out, says Footy44. I don't know what that's about. I do know he's done a bit of an interview. We'll talk about that. Give us your thoughts on that.

1:39But where I want to start off with, very interesting because last night, and this is what I said last night, look, I still hold out hope that United will run a proper managerial process. Hilarious comment. I mean, look, we're going to talk about this Iriola news because apparently Man United are and have held talks with Iriola. And this is coming in from The Guardian. So last night, Nathan Salt and Chris Wheeler in the mail said that Man United have ruled out Iriola because they want to give the job to Carrick and that that could happen before the end of the season. this morning the Guardian are saying that Man United are in talks with Iriola although Carrick is leading the race at the moment so believe what you want to believe but that to me I'm very positive about this until they hand the job to Carrick and don't interview anybody in which case I will say the club have messed up because it's wrong to do that and I hold out hope that we're actually going to ruin a proper process here but look I wanted to just start off with a little bit of light humour because we don't always start off with some light humour.

2:41Rio Ferdinand's been doing his PR tour with the club, you know, Carrick's cheerleader. So in return for cheerleading for the Glazers, he gets interviews with players. And this is what Casimiro said about Carrick getting the job. He said, he, Carrick, deserves to stay. The team plays very good. He will win any game. The team improves day by day. Game by game, the team improves. You know what the player's feelings

3:28Do I need to add something? so look Casemiro has been very good for Manchester United a few holes in your story one the team plays very good it doesn't in my opinion I don't think the team's playing very well but apparently the team plays very good it's improving day by day I think it's getting worse day by day I think it was good against Arsenal and Man City and it's got gradually worse game by game the team improves I don't agree also the most important thing is that he knows the club. He understands the club. And when we played against Leeds, the meeting was about the history of the game. Maybe it should have been about tactics because that was our worst ever fucking performance.

4:12We lost the bloody game. You can't say give the job to Carrick and then talk about Leeds and he was giving you a history lesson. We lost at home at Old Trafford to bloody Leeds. What the bloody hell? I mean, if that's PR and I'm Michael Carrick, I'm going, Rio, you're meant to be a bloody cheerleader. You've just done more damage. What are you doing? What are you doing? What's he talking about bloody Leeds for? Give him the job. We're getting better and better by the game. We play good football. And the reason I'd give him the job is because he knows the history of the club. And in the Leeds game, he told us the history.

4:42We lost bloody, we lost. We lost to bloody Leeds. We were shit. What the bloody hell? I mean, this is what I mean. Sometimes the PR will be shit. Absolutely rubbish. But no, seriously, I thought it was, I actually thought it was quite funny because I was like, here's a player who's well-respected. He was back in giving Carrick the job, which is absolutely fine in all seriousness. But I don't agree with we're getting better. I don't agree with the team's improving. But then he comes out with the mic drop and also he knows the history of the club. When we played Leeds, it was all about the history of the fixture.

5:14We were shit. We were absolutely shit. But you know what makes me laugh is, oh, the club might want to listen to Carrick now. Oh, we might want to listen to Carrick now because, sorry, we might want to listen to Casemiro now about Carrick. They won't listen to Casemiro about Bruno Guimera, though. So you can't pick and choose what you're going to listen. I mean, don't listen to players. Ultimately, don't listen to players. That's what I would advise. Why should a paid employee be listened to on who the next manager in Man United should be? Just don't listen to players, basically. Right. Let's delve into the big story here.

5:48It's not the broken glasses. It's not the hilarious story from Casemiro. It's actually I want to talk about this story that came in overnight. Well, there's a little bit about Nagelsmann as well. But basically, with regards to Iriola, it's coming in from Jacob Steenberg, who is a journalist for the Guardian, basically saying that Manchester United have held talks with Iriola. So I think that this is really, really positive in the first sense because Manchester United have met with Areola about the Manchester United job. However, the current indications are that United will stick with Michael Carrick.

6:34But look, I think that's really... It's difficult, isn't it? I'd like to know your talk. From where we were last night to where we are this morning, if Man United have met with Areola and they're still going to go with Carrick, then that needs to be out there officially and I haven't got a problem with that per se like I think that all I want United to do is interview three or four good candidates and if they go with Carrick and when it goes wrong we can all go idiot idiot idiot get out of this football club what I don't want them to do is not meet with anybody and go with Carrick because I think that is a bit of a you know what I'm saying is if if there's a job up for grabs yeah and you you know you go for that and you interview four people and you give it to the wrong candidate that's bad if the job's up to grab up for grabs and you just give it to the wrong candidate you don't interview anyone else that's even worse so for me that's that's sort of where I am with it I'm sort of like going we need to we need to speak to these managers so if we have spoken to Iriola and we still think Carrick's the guy.

7:44I disagree. But ultimately, I do. I have to say, I disagree with giving the job to Carrick for this. And I don't want to bore anybody about it. But minimum, we've got to be talking to other people. We have to. And Joey says, I bet we haven't met with Areola. But I mean, look, I don't know. I don't know I think I think as I've said before I saw this today right and I thought I will bring this into the show because I think this is really important I mean the conversation about you know you might agree with Casemiro you might agree with Rio Ferdinand you might agree with Wayne Rooney give it to Carrick give it to Carrick that's absolutely fine I've always respected that I just disagree with it that's absolutely fine I know the reasons well I think I know the reasons you want to do it but look I saw this look I'm not shouting this person outright.

8:35I saw this on social media last night. Kompany went from Burnley to Bayern. Maresco went from Leicester to Chelsea. Zidane went from the academy to Real Madrid's first team. Flick went from Hoffenheim to Bayern. Enrique went from Saltadigo to Barcelona. Pep went from Barca to Athletic to Barcelona. But some people think Manchester United is too big for Michael Carrick. Every elite manager started somewhere before reaching the top. Now, if you are somebody who wants to give Carrick the job, you might look at that and go, yeah, Kompany did start at Burnley and Zidane was in the academy. But somebody quote tweeted it and said, Kompany went from Burnley to Bayern because of his amazing style of play and he promoted Burnley from relegation, which shows if he gets a better job with good financial backing, he would do better.

9:22Maresco went from Leicester to Chelsea. Maresco led Leicester City back to the Premier League in the 23-24 season after their relegation. Zidane went from academy to Real Madrid's first team. Zidane went from being a coach of Castilla for two years, became Arsenal to Carlo Ancelotti where they both won UEFA Champions League, Copa del Rey and UEFA Super Cup as an assistant. Flick went from Hoffenheim to Bayern. Flick was assistant coach of the German national team from 2006 to 2014. He worked under Joachim Lowe during that period, which included winning the World Cup. At Hoffenheim, he worked as the club's sporting director, general manager from 2017 to 2018.

9:57During that period, Hoffenheim continued growing as a strong Bundesliga side and qualified for European competitions. Enrique went from Salto Vigo to Barcelona. He took charge of FC Barcelona Athletic. This was Barcelona's reserve team. He gained first team manageable experience here. He went to Roma, his first job outside of Spain, a challenging season. Then he managed Salto Vigo, improved his reputation, appointed head coach of Barcelona. Pep went from Barcelona Athletic to Barcelona, becoming head coach of Barcelona. He coached Barcelona B during the 2007-08 season and won promotion. Michael Carrick he was assistant to a guy who got sacked Meddlesbrough was already a mid-table team in the championship his job was to just get them promoted he didn't do it same league as company same league as Maresca so look I think that there's a debate to be had on the one side people say give it to Carrick on the other side people are concerned I would say I'm not the judge jury here at all but I would say that I respect that people want to give it to Carrick, but you're not going to find a reason to turn the people who don't want to give him the job the job.

11:03Like, the red flags are there. If you want to ignore those red flags and it turns out right, you will reap the benefits of saying, look, we were right. But on the other hand, I don't think you can compare Michael Carrick to Vincent Kompany or Mareska or Hansi Flick or Pep Guardiola or Zidane Zidane or Luis Enrique. I think that's massively, massively wrong. Because when you look at the style of play at Middlesbrough and you look at the style of play under Oli and you look at the style of play under the last four months, he ain't playing like Pep or Hansi Flick or Vincent Kompany. He's not playing like that.

11:34You know, the thing about Carrick is you could say he's had three years as an assistant coach at Man United. He had a bit of time at Billsborough and he's had four months here. His style of play is very distinctive. It is counter-attacking football. That's what it is. So look, I don't think we can go searching for, you know, hidden hope that we're going to suddenly start playing great football under Carrick. I hope we do, but the red flags are there. But they're not our red flags. We can just converse about it. The club are turning a blind eye here, much the same as they're turning a blind eye with Belaba, in my opinion, as well.

12:11This is, as I said last night, Nice are in a relegation scrap in the French League. Nice should never be getting relegated from the French League, and Ineos are nearly going to relegate them, and they're in charge of Man United. and until the wider world, whether it be ex-players, whether, you know, certain ex-players cheering that they're Man United fans when actually they're just growing their YouTube channel. They're not actually shouting out the real issues at Man United, the massive amount of debt, the poor running of the football club. You know, cheerleading for your mates isn't actually helping Man United, is it?

12:44It's just a wish. And I think after 13 years, excuse me, a lot of United fans are sort of like going, yeah, I'm not up for trust me, bro, anymore. I'm up for best in class. You know, I personally think that the likes of Sir Jim Radcliffe, Joel Glazer, Omar Barada, their big campaign, if they were politicians, would be, trust me, bro. You know, things can only get better. I mean, I'm sorry, that just doesn't work in football. Liverpool are starting to go through it now. And Liverpool have had a good period of success. But Liverpool are basically going, trust us about Arna Slott. And a lot of Liverpool fans are going, trust you on what?

13:20It's clearly not a good idea to stick with slot, but Liverpool are going to do it. Well, we've had it a lot worse. So look, as I say, if people are positive about this, great. I hope you're going to be right. But don't try and tell everybody else that we've got to effectively trust you. there's not a lot more to this summer plan if we go with Carrick and the Labour and Ineos than trust me bro and I don't trust them trust is earned if in two years time Michael Carrick has put us in two title races and we're playing great football I'll start to trust the football club is that a deal that's a fair deal isn't it um so look on Iriola I'll repeat what I said to last night if this is true that we have held talks with him and according to the guardian we have um and if it's true that carrick is still leading the race then i still hold out hope that manchester united will see sense and actually compare the two um and go out there and continue to interview other people because i think that we've got a real opportunity here to run a proper and thorough a process where we actually bring somebody in that is beneficial to Manchester United in the longer term.

14:39And let's not forget that, you know, people say that Michael Carrick's done a very good job at Manchester United because he took over a club that was, you know, apparently not doing very well and has taken them to third in the league. I'm not going to take anything away from that. You know, we have won a lot of games and we are third on merit. And after 38 games, you finish in a league table where you deserve to finish. If West Ham get relegated and Spurs stay up by a point, yes, West Ham don't have the resources of Spurs, but ultimately over a 38-game season, you'll deserve to get relegated. What I would say is we were joint fifth when Carrick took over as well.

15:17And the competition for fourth and fifth is shit. Villa and Liverpool have got their own problems. But taking nothing away, he's done a good job. Don't try and discredit what Iriola's done at Bournemouth. every summer he loses players not only that when you look at this season this summer Holsen his best centre back goes to Real Madrid Kerkes his left back goes to Liverpool another lad goes to where did that winger go to? was it Otara or someone like that he went somewhere as well where did he go? you ain't heard about Moto Casino Moto has real Vegas slots any game you can find on the floor in Vegas You can play it on Moto.

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16:39Another lad went to PSG as well. So he's lost Atara, the lad to PSG, Kerkhez, Hulson in the summer. So four of his first team players go. And then one of the best players in the league goes in January, Semenyu. So he's lost half a team across the season. And they're sixth. in the league, playing great football, and they've got the best unbeaten run in Europe. I'm telling you now, it won't be Man United. It won't be Man United, and it might not be Chelsea. But that guy, people should be all over Iriola like a rash. Whether you're Newcastle, Liverpool, Chelsea, European clubs should be all over him.

17:21Don't talk to me about Carrick's done a great job. I mean, our squad's brilliant. Come on. Carrick has done a good job, right? But don't ignore what Iriola's done at Bournemouth. And don't say, oh, you know, managing at a club in front of 11 ,000 people is a bit different to managing Man United. Is it? Is it? Does he not come to Old Trafford then? Has he not been to Old Trafford and won with Bournemouth? Has he not been to the Etihad? Does he not turn up for the big away games where it's an intimidating atmosphere as an away team? I think he's done a great job. I think he's done an absolute great job.

18:00And on the one hand, Michael Carrick has managed Man United and won games under Oli and himself. And on the other hand, Iriola does manage Bournemouth. But ultimately, Carrick's not playing good football. Iriola is. so Carrick's got the experience at Man United and Iriola doesn't but he's been managing in the Premier League for the last few years getting results with a team that gets decimated every summer, going to the lights of the Etihad and the Emirates and winning and Carrick is at Man United winning games not playing particularly good football there's a risk with both of course there's a risk do you want to stick with this or do you want to go with that that's a choice, there's no definitive I'm not saying you're a bloody idiot if you want to go with Carrick.

18:48I'm just saying I'd go with Iriola. I think what he's done in the Premier League with that style of football, with the players at his disposal, look, I don't think we're going to get him and he's not my first choice, but over what we've got every day of the week. And I would keep an eye on his career and I wish him all the best because I think what he has done at Bournemouth and the way that they play, I hope he goes, gets a big job and ends up being the next Pep Guardiola because I think he's that good. And I love football, right? And I don't think Man United are intelligent enough to do this, but I really hope he goes somewhere else.

19:30And when I'm on Mats Football doing watch-alongs over the next 10 years, I hope I'm going, you know what? When he left Bournemouth, I did think that there was something there. and I really hope he goes off and does something really well. Because he always gets Bournemouth ticking as well. They're very, very consistent. To have the longest unbeaten run in Europe at this stage of the season is incredible. So look, I hope United have interviewed him. Somebody in the chat said, do you think they've interviewed him? Well, the Guardian are saying we've spoken to him, but we want to stick with Carrick.

20:01I will tell you now, I don't think we've spoken to him. You know why I don't think we've spoken to him? Because I think if you spoke to him, you'd give him the job. I can't see any reason why you wouldn't get him the job. So I don't think we have. What about Iriola and Carrick as a dream team? I mean, look, hypothetically, I'd do it. But, you know, both of them are going to want to be, you know, in charge at the end of the day, aren't they? Let me grab some of your comments. Then we're going to talk about Embermo. There's lots of people saying get Embermo out of my club. Some people are saying Embermo in.

20:37I've not really read the comments. So I just need to sort of get my head around it.

20:50These glasses are better than the other ones, you know. Right. Carrick's done an interim job almost on the level of Di Matteo, but we've all remember what happened when he got the gig full time. It's not the same job, says Slazy. What are your thoughts on Terry wanting Carrick over Iriolus as James? But Beth wants Carrick over Areola, I think. Ricky certainly does. James, I don't hate anyway, but I don't have an issue. And you know what? If Michael Carrick was here and he went, I don't like you because you've been critical of me, that's fine. I would say, well, I've respected you as a player. I don't know you as a person, but I am entitled to my opinion, Michael.

21:33And you're entitled to yours. but these are the reasons I don't want to give you the job. It's got nothing to do with your haircut. It's got nothing to do with your interviews. It's got nothing to do with anything other than, as a lifelong Man United fan who has scrutinised every single game since Sir Alex left because it's not been good enough, I don't think this is the right choice for Man United. Respect it, and I'll respect the people who want to give you the job. That's all it is. Average Angler says, I hate the transfer, the amount of bullshit that flies about. the closer you get to Old Trafford the stronger the smell gets thank you pal United DNA but it doesn't even use youth players says Franco Emily Derry says we compare Carrick to Di Matteo but I think he's more like Lampard at Chelsea the first time round it's too soon for him his mentors weren't good Carrick and the choices he makes are inexperienced says Emily Derry and Sarath says despite what Carrick has done I will go for Iriola because he's a proper tactical coach who has a clear vision on how his team plays Carrick doesn't says Sarath look regardless of the risk Bournemouth is not Man United.

22:36Carrick's style of football is not Eriola's. Regardless of all that, take the two coaches, take their last three years, take the way their team plays, take the way they develop players, take the amount of money Eriola has made for Bournemouth because if I'm a coach and I buy a player for£20 million and then two years later he goes for£80 million, Of course the player takes some credit, but if I'm not a good coach, that player isn't worth£80 million.

23:11Iriola consistently takes a player at a certain level and makes them a better player and born with a profit from it. Those types of coaches are gold dust. They're absolute gold dust. Pep Guardiola is very good at it. Very, very good at it. Jurgen Klopp was very good at it. Iriola is very good at it. Proven track record. And this is something in football that people don't talk about. Because people talk about style of play. People talk about results. But managers that take players consistently and increase their value in a short period of time, that's something very different. You can be a successful team and a successful manager that doesn't do that.

23:55Does Jose Mourinho typically take a player and increase their value? Not really. He's more of a manager that gets results in a short period of time. But certain managers, they do get results, they do play good football, but they increase the value of a player. You know, you look at what Klopp did for people like, you know, Jota and Van Dijk and Salah. And he might not have initially bought them, but he increases the value of a player. Pep Guardiola increases the value of players. Iriola consistently increases the value of players. That's something that I don't think many of you have thought about.

24:37I certainly don't think people in our club have thought about it. And that's scary because Manchester United should be thinking like that. You know, Data Dean, let's do another long throw in. Is Data Dean thinking about strategic? Because this is a money ball theory. You know, this is modern football. Managers that consistently increase the value of a player are like Goldgust. Tony Pulis could play shit football but still be a manager that increases the value of a player it's a very distinctive trait that people completely underestimate right it's not really I think I think most of them do play good football and most of them do get good results but it's not actually that that's not it you can increase the value of a player even if you play average football but there'll be a lot of managers out there that don't increase the value of a player, even if you think they're a good manager.

25:30And Iriola is 100 % one of the best in the Premier League at taking players and increasing their value. And of course, the scouting network at Bournemouth and Brighton, they do take a lot of credit for that, but it's still the coach that manages them on them 90 minutes and on the training ground that gets into their heads and gets them to perform and gets them to do certain things. And I think it's a, you know, if I was the director of football, it's something I would absolutely have in my top 10. This is what I'm looking for. And it's too early to say whether Carrick does that, to be fair. I'm not going to criticize Carrick on that, but Iriola is somebody that definitely does that.

26:15Nagelsmann is somebody that definitely does that as well. You cannot say that Nagelsmann doesn't increase the value with players because everywhere he's been, he's done that. It's harder to do it at Bayern Munich in a sense, but in a way it's easier. And obviously for a national team, you can have a say in it, but you're not running day to day. But certainly at Hoffenheim, certainly at RB Leipzig and Iriola at Bournemouth as well. And I think for a club like Manchester United, that's business centric, but also needs results, the fact that we ignore managers that increase players' values on a consistent, I think it's a massive thing that we don't do.

26:49why do ex-players base hope on history we're a better run club before the Glazers came in because they're morons Melvin I think that

27:00yeah I'm not when I hear about this manager knows the history of the club in a way I like it because I'm a little bit older but in another way you know Sir Alex Ferguson built the club from the ashes he respected the past of what Man United was, but, you know, an obsession with it, you know, you've got to build something new. United need to build something new. Reality is Glynius can't attract quality coaches, says Stretford Signal. All those managers got unlimited cash as well, says Keel Robinson. None of them went to a team needing rebuilding, says Denise. And isn't this the kind of stuff that players always say when a new manager comes in?

27:39Didn't we hear how Ten Hag was a winner and how Amrim was demanding? It's all PR. They won't come out with negativity, says Patrick Lynch. Patrick, you are always the voice of reason with Emily Derry. but you've absolutely nailed it there and I wish I'd said it at the start. All I said is don't listen to current players on what they think about the manager but you've actually added a little bit of detail there. Whether it's Casemiro in a car with Rio, whether it's Embermo in an interview or Ahmad, should the current manager get the job? What, what, what, in that scenario, what do you think the answer will be?

28:13I think he should get the job. We've got good results. The lads love him. We're playing great football or I don't actually think he's that good. I think he's done an okay job. The results haven't been that good. We're not playing that well and I'm worried about next season with his lack of experience. I mean, you're never going to get that as an answer, are you? So why listen to the answer when you know you're not going to get the other answer, even if they think it? Wait, isn't that the same Chelsea journalist that leaked we interviewed managers to replace Ten Hag before the cup finals, says Glenn?

28:42Yep. Yep, again. Glenn's just stolen the...

28:49comments of the day. Thanks for your super chat. I think you're right. So Jacob Steenberg in The Guardian, I think he was the journalist that leaked that we'd interviewed managers before the FA Cup final on Ten Hag. I think you're right. I'm 90 % sure you're right on that. And he's the one saying that Man United have spoken to Iriola. So, you know, hopefully that will develop into something. Up the Red says, do you think the Labour Fernandes Edison is a good enough rebuild? I think it's a missing a number one Also, I'm against Carrick, but we'll hate Ineos, not him. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree.

29:19I think that's a great point as well. It is not Michael Carrick's fault. To be honest with you, if they rang me up today and said, we've seen what you've done at Borla League, we think you can be the Man United manager, absolutely 100 % I'm going to take the job and you lot are going to go, what are they doing? They're idiots. So I ain't got a problem with Carrick taking the job and I'm sure you'd take the job as well. So it's not him. Each journalist has different sources who have different agendas. So conflicting stories are normal. Glazers move faster than this club says Emily Derry and I'm actually scared now what are we doing says Kiel there was a good question here we're going to come to this Embermo stuff but

29:58there's nothing bad in his interview by the way we're going to go through it in a moment but one question that keeps coming out is you say you don't want Carrick but what if they give it another manager and it's a slow start everyone's going to say we should have given it to Carrick I don't think I disagree with that. I can't be definitive about this. This is just an opinion, right? But there is a train of thought and there's a lot of journalists who push this, but remember they're not Man United fans. Journalists predominantly aren't Man United fans. They're paid employees who write about Man United.

30:32A lot of them, a lot of these journalists aren't Man United fans. When you look into their background, they're not Man United fans. They're journalists. Basically, you start off as a journalist in a newspaper, right? You start off at the bottom, you make the coffee, whatever, right? The dream job is to be the Man United correspondent because it's Man United. It doesn't mean you're a Man United fan. And I think a lot of people don't realise this. A lot of these journalists aren't that. A lot of people saying to me, Sky Sports. Here's golf legend John Daly. Hell yeah, these wins are piling up faster than my divorces.

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31:54Although I'm not I'm not seeing it Why are we not getting this from a People on X are slow

32:08might be the 11 o 'clock news Carrick before the end of the season according to Sky Sports I will operate on that we will come back to that don't worry but look very quickly while we're waiting for the clarity on that a lot of people say if we give it to say Iriola and he doesn't have a good start a load of people will be saying Iriola out we should have kept Carrick I disagree with that I disagree with that because there's already about half of the fan base that don't want Carrick. So they'd be happy with Iriola or Nagelsmann. So they'd back him. So all that would happen if they have a bad start is the people who want to Carrick would be saying we should have gone with Carrick.

32:49But they would do that anyway. It's like if Carrick has a bad start, the people that didn't want him will be saying Carrick out. I don't think that's a big enough reason not to give it Carrick. I don't think there's a big enough support for Carrick that if he doesn't get the job, there'll be protests. I really don't think there'll be protests. And I think if we brought a manager in and backed them properly with a distinctive style of play, they'll get more patience than Carrick will if he starts the season playing like this. That's just opinion. But I think if we go with Carrick and it goes wrong, there's going to be more uproar than if we go with someone else with a better style of play.

33:22I think there'll be more patience. That's just my perception. I might be wrong on that. what if they do a backflip and go for Southgate there will be protests James yes that they will you know Manchester will riot even Man City fans would join in no they'd be laughing do you think there is a time where the tension on leaving Old Trafford is higher than it is right now dreaders leaving the ground says Ten Hag's barber yeah I don't want to leave Old Trafford Fola says Carrick is a mistake waiting to happen he's shown he prefers results rather than trying new things our intensity has dropped why can't the club let things go he's done well I wish him well and au revoir.

33:57Especially when there's so many other jobs he could go and get. You know, there are other jobs out like Crystal Palace, maybe Fulham's job. Thank you very much for that. Okay, I'm still looking at this.

34:12I think wasn't the Sky Sports yesterday said that? Quoting from someone else from yesterday doesn't make the news. Yeah, I think the Sky Sports thing is just a regurgitation. Manchester United

34:27Manchester United are ready to open talks with Carrick about him continuing as head coach beyond the end of the season formal discussions are expected to begin before United's final game at Brighton United's bosses have not completely ruled out the possibility of someone else taking charge for next season and they've reached out to other possible candidates but the club hierarchy has decided Carrick is the main man they want to talk to first yeah I mean I'm okay with that I'm okay with that you see I ain't going to react badly to that, but I don't mind that. He has to be interviewed. Absolutely has to be interviewed.

34:58But interview other people as well. Calmly assess the situation and recruit the best candidate, knowing that an interim coach can fall off a cliff as soon as you give him the head job. and as I've said 100 % managers that consistently and this is my only takeaway for you today and I'm not saying I'm right tell me managers that are out there that consistently every season increase the value of players even now forget Semenu forget bloody Kirkhez, forget Hulson all massively increased in value under Iriola Kruppi, Scott Trufford Trufford's only been there a year he's probably doubled in value in 12 months Scott's not been there that long doubled in value Kruppi's not been there long double in value obviously it's very good recruitment from Bournemouth but it's still a manager putting them into their system look, if I've got David Moyes as my manager at Everton and I give him Truffaut, Scott and Creepy are they worth as much as they are at Bournemouth?

36:20No because in his style of play they ain't going to get developed like that and that's what I mean. Some people go wow look at the recruitment at Bournemouth, look at the recruitment at Brighton, it is very good but if you haven't got the right manager their value might be there under people like Iriola it's up here this is a huge thing that people need to think about because it'd be so important for us. We need a manager that increases the value of players. Not to sell them because of course, if you increase the value of a player, that means they're good. So I want a manager that when you give them a player or three players, they're better every year.

36:59You know? Mish says, Caric out, that's too much. Iriola would do a better option but needs to be backed and that scares me, especially now we have Champions League. We'll need five out of 10 in, says George. Odds suspended on Carrick getting the job, says Robert McCormack. What if they do a backflick? Okay. Patrick Lynch says the managerial choice will be based on what insulates the board from ridicule. Which do you think does that more, having interviews and giving Carrick the job or no interviews and just giving him the job? Yeah, interviews, I think, Patrick, I think they have to interview people.

37:27Look, I still think Nagelsmann is the guy to get the job, 100%. I think Nagelsmann is the guy. He's a builder of clubs. He's massively experienced. He could be at the club for the next 10 years because he's still in age quite young. He plays a very good brand of football. He's tactically adaptable. He's managed in the Champions League and domestically. He has the best CV and he's available. So Nagelsmann is the guy and he's worked with Favell. Nagelsmann is an absolute open goal. He ticks every box about experience, tactical ability, style of play, developing players. He's worked with Favell. he's going to be here for the next decade he is absolutely the perfect choice for man united but we won't do it um right let's talk about these uh let's talk about these embermo quotes which actually aren't even that controversial talking about brighton i think six years at brighton was really important for me to grow as a player and as a person i can only be thankful for everything i've been working to that point to join united all my life i knew something like this could happen to me.

38:33I added my own chef, personal trainers, everything like that to make sure my body was good. Nobody can really know how it is to play for Man United unless you play there. It's such a big club with big demands, but I had this chance to spend a few years in the Premier League before, so it was easier. On his first season, he says there's been some good bits this season, but there are some bits to improve. I had a good start, I would say, but every year in my career, I've always come back better than I was before. Every season I want to improve. It hasn't been enough. It can only be better. I always wanted more, even if it was going really well.

39:00I always tried to beat records. I'm still happy because obviously it's been a top season, especially collectively. So I think with hard work, it can only get better. On the staff, I work a lot with the coach, Travis Binion, the video analyst team, but obviously sometimes with the manager and Steve Holland. It's a good staff. They've done really well. A lot of people would like him to stay, but obviously that's not my decision. There we go. I mean, there was not really anything there. It's just another man. I mean, look, it's just another player back in the manager, isn't it? Saying that it's been a bit of an up and down season, which it has.

39:32I, sorry, I think I said Brentford instead of Brighton. Look, I personally think Mbwemo's season's not been bad under a manager that is certainly very, very important to him, Amirim, in coming to the club and a system that probably suited him better. I think when you look at Cunha and Mbwemo, if you're in a 3-4-3, that system suits you like a glove. you've got basically a back five defensively you've got two midfielders and then you know that system if it works is brilliant for the likes of Mbermo and Cunha because they've got so much attacking freedom and they're central and then you go to a manager that plays a 4-3-3 and suddenly if you're Mbermo you're playing up front on your own in a graveyard shift or you're playing right wing you know it's massively disruptive and I don't think Mbermo and Cunha get enough sympathy or, you know, empathy.

40:33Empathy, not sympathy, empathy. In the sense that you come into a club, as enormous as Manchester United is, you go into a system where you're getting a lot of freedom and you're going to play every week. Halfway through the season, Kunyur and Mborme were doing quite well. Amrim gets the sack because of a fallout. Carrick comes in. The results have been good, but personally it's not been great because they're playing in a team that's counterattacking with hardly any of the ball so it's a bit of a head mess because you're like the results have been better under Carrick than they were under Amrim but Embermo and Cunha were better under Amrim because they were playing in a system that suited them this system doesn't suit them Cunha's on the left Embermo's been up front we don't have a lot of the ball it's a bit counterattacky so I think Embermo and Cunha deserve a little bit of praise I think it's been a good debut season with a challenging second half to the season.

41:28Not because Carey explained anything wrong, but because the style of play has been very much about results and it hasn't really helped them as individuals. But they've got their heads down and they've worked hard. So, look, I think next season is the season where, look, second season, second season for any signing is always the big season. I've seen people have a great season in their first season and be shit in the second season and they're a flop. I've seen people who've had a bad first season, been brilliant in their second season and they're a success. So I think second season will always be, you know, the big one, really.

42:07Laurie Whitwell says Michael Carrick in line for permanent Man United head coach job with recommendations being made by football leaders on executive committee led by Sir Jim Ladlef. Omar Barada and Jason Wilcox believe is the right choice and are set to present the proposal to Sir Jim Radcliffe. Man United's football chief will recommend Michael K. Look, that's absolutely fine. We know the names. I said this last week. As long as we know the people responsible, they will be responsible. So Omar Barada and Jason Wilcox will present their proposal to Sir Jim Radcliffe. Fine. So it's Barada and Wilcox who are responsible for this.

42:44Write it down. Keep it in your head. They are responsible. I'm okay with that. I don't agree with the decision. And if they're not interviewing anybody else, that's even worse. But Barada and Wilcox, who I think are crap at their job anyway, are making this decision. I'm fine. They're presenting their recommendation to Sir Jim Ladcliffe that Michael Carrick should get the job. Absolutely fine. Barada and Wilcox, okay. You're responsible. Just like you're responsible for the fuck-ups over the last two years. So get this wrong. Time to go. Simple as that, isn't it? And if Sir Jim Radcliffe wants to listen to those people, which he clearly does, he's responsible as well.

43:23So, you know, ultimately, they're the names. The worst thing would have been if Laurie Whitwell had said, Wilcox is pushing for Carrick, Barada's not too sure, Sir Jim Radcliffe will decide. Because then you're sort of like, well, maybe Barada knows what he's on about. But if they're both in agreement, and that's coming from the Athletic, we know they're unified. Barada and Wilcox want Carrick, and they're going to tell Sir Jim, and he's going to back Carrick. So they're all three of them in it together. That's fine. As long as we know who's responsible, they can take the credit if it goes well and they'll get responsibility and they'll be responsible if it doesn't.

43:56I'm okay with that, whether I agree with it or not. Damien, thanks for being a member. Thank you very much. Duke Studio says, Mateus Fernandez, Carlos Blaber and Edison would be mad at that with the left back and striker. Side note, Carrick or not, the squad needs depth. Thank you very much, pal. What about Gasparini from Roma, says James? I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. The guy who manages Porto, I wouldn't do that. If there's a good coach in France, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do it from the Netherlands. I wouldn't do it from Italy. I'm not saying they're bad coaches, but that's what Ten Hag was.

44:33Ten Hag was a coach that had done really well at Ajax, and Amarin was a good coach that had done really well at sporting. Iriola's ahead of those. Iriola's done it in the Premier League. developing players Iriola's better than them so I wouldn't go for anybody like that but ideally I'd go for someone with experience thank you everybody for watching as always really enjoyed the show it's a normal 8 o 'clock show tonight and we're on at 2 o 'clock as well so get involved get your comments sorry I was a little bit late but I broke my glasses and they're fixed now so that was the big news John Stokes says and yet you want Nagelsmann.

45:14John, if you want to go for it, let's go for it. Don't throw nonsense without backing it up. If you think Nagelsmann is the same as Amirim or Ten Hag, I'm sorry, John, you don't know football. If you think Nagelsmann is inexperienced, you don't know football. If you don't want Nagelsmann because you've got an agenda and you haven't done any research, go and do your research. Nagelsmann is 100 % in the category of experienced and proven. Hoffenheim, relegation zone to the Champions League. Leipzig, Champions League semi-finalists, second in the Bundesliga. Bayern Munich, wins the Bundesliga. Germany is managing them in the World Cup.

46:09Just because he's under 40 doesn't mean he's inexperienced Every place he's been, he's been successful Every place he's been, he's played good football Every place he's been, he's been tactically adaptable And every place he's been, he's increased the value of players that he's gone with and played good football His CV is bigger than most managers' CVs Don't be fooled by his passport He's also managed domestically and in the Champions League multiple times he's very experienced and he's available just because he's German and also Nagelsmann is more experienced than Klopp was when he took the Liverpool job thanks everyone for watching take care stay safe and I'll speak to you on the next one

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