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18 May 2026 · 52m · 26 chapters

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408: Tonali OR Anderson! Carrick's TRANSFER Demand!

In short

Manchester United summer transfer planning and managerial backing. Main focus is midfield targets: Michael Carrick’s reported desire for Elliot Anderson, and competing interest in Sandro Tonali (with gambling-related briefings). Also discussed: Cesco (Cesc?) injury ruled out for the season, Bruno Fernandes assist-record debate, and player ratings (notably Hojlund/Kunja and Mboumo/Emerson-style wingers), plus contract status for Carrick and Steve Holland.

Guests

No named guests appear; it’s Mark Goldbridge solo with live-chat contributions.

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Key claims

United must “back” Carrick with big midfield signings; they can’t end up with neither Anderson nor Tonali. Anderson’s smiles/Instagram aren’t proof of destination; keep options open to drive up offers. Tonali deal may be undermined by repeated gambling issue briefings. Bruno’s 20-assist record is valid despite low open-play assists; the Premier League’s slow/set-piece style drives that. Kunja season rated ~6/10; Mboumo ~6.5–7.

Notable examples

Klopp rebuilding Liverpool’s midfield in one summer (Suboșlai, Gravenberch, Endo, McAllister); Rice/Caicedo £100m benchmarks; United’s Mbomo deal costing extra once other clubs bid; Bruno’s 20 assists (8 open play) compared to Henry (20 open play), De Bruyne (17), Ozil (14), Lampard (16).

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Chapters

0:00

Manchester United Transfer Targets

Discussion on Michael Carrick's target players and updates on transfers.

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1:04

Manchester United Transfer Targets

Discussion on Michael Carrick's target players and updates on transfers.

“You can't end up with neither, I would say that.”
2:29

Carrick's Management Challenges

Analyzing Carrick's management style and the importance of player support.

“But look, it's going to be a challenging summer and United must back Michael Carrick.”
3:38

Evaluating Player Preferences

Debate on preferences between Elliot Anderson and Tonali for the team.

“Bruno Fernandes, Harry Maguire, Casemiro.”
5:51

The Transfer Market Dynamics

Exploring the factors affecting player transfers and negotiations.

“So this is from a journalist that we're quite close to.”
7:48

Urgency in Midfield Rebuild

Discussing the need for quick action in rebuilding the midfield.

“If Man United are waiting for a player like they did with Kunia and Mbomo to say, I only want you.”
10:29

Financial Realities of Transfers

Understanding the financial aspects and worth of target players.

“So, look, it's going to be an interesting few days.”
12:14

Anticipating Future Transfers

Speculation on when and how Manchester United will approach future signings.

“I would comfortably pay£100 million for either of them.”
14:00

Transfer Fees and Predictions

Discussion on the realistic fees for players like Tonali and Anderson.

“So I think that that would be a realistic fee as far as I'm concerned.”
15:01

Jose Mourinho's Impact

Analyzing the implications of Mourinho's appointment as Real Madrid manager.

“I don't think we're signing Tonali because it's been briefed three times about his gambling issue.”
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16:01

The Transfer Window Dynamics

Exploring the behaviors of clubs in the transfer market and the impact of timing.

“for many many years and if you are new make sure you subscribe because the transfer window I remember being in hotels in London talking about Lozano.”
17:26

Fan Expectations and Club Decisions

Discussion on fan patience and the decisions of club management regarding transfers.

“You're full of shit and your predictions never come true.”
19:16

The Perils of Project Signings

Debate on the lack of patience among fans for project signings and their implications.

“Also, Inu, thank you for the assist on this.”
21:21

Critique of Player Performance Expectations

Criticism of fans' quick judgments on player performances and their implications.

“I seen a load of people yesterday saying we need a left winger because Dorgoo's clearly not a left winger.”
23:07

Transfer Strategies and World Cup Timing

Discussion on timing of transfers due to the World Cup and its effects on player acquisitions.

“So they absolutely need to realise that if they're building projects, this is going to fail.”
25:50

Rashford and Mourinho Rumors

Analyzing rumors surrounding Rashford's potential move to Real Madrid under Mourinho.

“And that's mainly to do with the World Cup.”
27:16

Bruno Fernandes' Premier League Record

Discussion on Bruno Fernandes equaling the all-time Premier League assists record.

“Can't get the image of the perfect process into our box from Anderson.”
28:01

Mourinho's Player Relationships

Exploring Mourinho's tenure and his relationships with players like Rashford and Shaw.

“is that Mourinho made it very obvious that he wanted to get rid of two players when he was at the club and the board said no.”
28:37

Bruno Fernandes and the Assist Record

Discussing Bruno Fernandes' assist record in comparison with other Premier League greats.

“But look, ultimately, I think as long as Rashford gets to stay in Spain, everybody's happy, aren't they, on that one.”
30:33

Quality of the Premier League This Season

Analyzing the overall quality of the Premier League this season and its impact on player performance.

“And this is where football IQ comes into it.”
33:43

Evaluating Player Performances

Assessing the performances of players like Kunya and Mbermo and their future at the club.

“Cherokee gets 20 assists and 20 from open play, I'll eat my shoes.”
36:41

Youth Development and Future Prospects

Discussing the development of young players like Aidan Heaven and their need for game time.

“You spend£65 million on a right winger that was scoring goals for fun and then you play him in his position less than 10 % of the season.”
41:29

Transfer Targets and Club Strategy

Examining Manchester United's transfer targets and the consequences of missed opportunities.

“But I do want to see Aidan Heaven developing.”
42:00

Man United's Transfer Strategy Concerns

Discussion on the risks and pressures of Manchester United's upcoming transfer decisions.

“You're not a serious club if you keep missing out on these types of players.”
46:01

Stability and Future of Carrick's Management

Exploration of Michael Carrick's potential impact and the board's accountability.

“So Thoughts on a one year deal for Lewandowski And do you think we need another fullback?”
49:46

Injury Updates and Upcoming Shows

Latest updates on player injuries and announcements for future podcast episodes.

“You know, I don't think you should be sacking managers after 12 months.”
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1:06You can't end up with neither, I would say that. Also, updates on Cesco's injury. He's out for the season and signing of contracts. Fabrizio Romano says Carrick has signed his contract and also Steve Holland. We can tell you he hasn't signed his contract as of now. I expect it probably will be today, But look, those official announcements are getting close. Typical Man United, I suppose. Also, Bruno Fernandes getting a little bit of flack. Eight of his 20 assists have only come from open play compared to people like Henri and De Bruyne, whose vast majority of assists were in open play. Is that an issue?

1:43We'll talk about that as well. A few other bits on transfers too and budgets and also exits and a few other bits too. Also, I've been asked, how would I rank Kunya's season out of 10? Maybe I'll do a few players out of 10 because I think Kunya out of 10 is quite an interesting one and I quite like the concept. So we'll definitely do that as well. But let's start off with the show. Michael Carrick will be Man United manager. It's a case of if, sorry, when, not if on the official announcement. And I think that we're all in agreement of two things that Manchester United must do. They have to back Michael Carrick.

2:18I mean, this morning we're hearing that Liverpool are going to sack Arna Slott and they're looking at Narl Guzman. They're looking at Iriola. They're even looking at Luis Enrique. Imagine if Liverpool got Luis Enrique. I mean, what does that do for Man United's recruitment if the manager we can't get goes to our biggest rival? I can't see it happening. But look, it's going to be a challenging summer and United must back Michael Carrick. I think the red flags around, I mean, look, I listened to, I saw a lot of people saying that his after match speech yesterday was very uninspiring. And a lot of people have had a go about his press conferences.

2:53I don't think we should be assessing our manager on their ability to inspire in a press conference or an after match thing. I don't think it's necessarily Carrick's thing and he might get better at it as time goes on. But ultimately, he hasn't managed two games a week. He hasn't managed in the Champions League and the job is huge compared to his CV. So what he needs is big signings. If you're an inexperienced coach and you're managing Brazil, you've got a better chance than being inexperienced coach managing Peru because you've got better players. And that stands to reason in football as well.

3:30If Michael Carrick is an inexperienced coach at Middlesbrough with inexperienced players, obviously that job is what it is. But at Manchester United, if he's an inexperienced coach with experienced players, he's got a better chance of being successful. Look at the last few months. Bruno Fernandes, Harry Maguire, Casemiro. These three players have been huge for Carrick. Would Carrick and Holland's coaching acumen have got his top three without those three players? Absolutely not. So he needs good players and United need to back him. Also mentioning Bruno Fernandes, I think this club owes its fans more importantly, but certainly people like Bruno Fernandes, who could have left last summer and could leave this summer and earn ridiculous money.

4:12they owe it to Bruno Fernandes to deliver him an opportunity to actually win something big, whether it be a Premier League or a Champions League and how unlikely that is. They owe it to Carrick and they owe it to Bruno Fernandes to deliver top quality players. So what we're hearing this morning is that Michael Carrick wants Elliott Anderson. This is coming in from numerous sources and it's not really breaking news because United themselves have said that Elliott Anderson is their number one priority for eight months. So Michael Carrick agreeing with that, wanting that, obviously, is very good.

4:45I've seen the clips of Elliot Anderson smiling a little bit as he walked out of Old Trafford, as people said, come to Manchester United. I have a theory on that. But also, reports coming out from Italy that Man United are leading the race for Tonali. Now, for me, I think this is, you can't always get what you want, you know? You can't always get what you want. And I'd be happy with either of these. I I had a different preference last week, which shows you that actually I wouldn't be crying if we got Tonali and Elliot Anderson went to Manchester City. And I wouldn't be crying if we got Anderson and Tonali went to Manchester City.

5:21There will be competition for these players. Like there will be big competition. And let's not forget Arsenal. I mean, I was even looking at Elliot Anderson yesterday and I thought, why would Arsenal not try and buy him? You know, I think Elliot Anderson is so good. I was sort of thinking, well, you know, we're talking about Man City and we're talking about Man United and why would Arsenal not go for him? So, look, I would love to get both. You can vote in the poll there. With regards to Elliot Anderson and where things are from Elliot Anderson's side, I don't think a lot of people have spoken about this.

5:54So this is from a journalist that we're quite close to. With Elliot Anderson, him doing Instagram posts about Maynou and then Man City and him doing little smiles as he walks out of Old Trafford doesn't mean he's coming to Manchester United. This is just a young lad with lots of opportunity in front of him who knows he's about to make the biggest move of his career. He also has an agent. And if that agent is doing their job, you are saying and speaking regularly to Elliot Anderson saying, keep your options open. Even if you have a preference, don't kill the options because at the end of the day, you will get a better contract out of the club you go to if you keep your options open.

6:36If you want to go Man City and Man City is where you want to go, definitely keep the door open to Manchester United because Man City get nervous. They don't want you to go to Man United. That can be another 20, 30, 40, 50 grand a week. It can be another few million on your signing on fee. So keep your options open. You know, you playing well at Old Trafford, a club that want to buy you and walking out with a smile on your face makes Man City nervous. Vice versa. If you want to go to Man United and it's your dream. It's not a bad idea to keep Man City in your back pocket as well. So I don't I don't I don't think Elliot Anderson is about to drop a hint on where he wants to go yet until they've maximized exactly what they can out of both clubs.

7:19And ideally, Forrest will want a bidding war and Elliot Anderson agent will want a bidding war as well. Whether Man United are going to enter that takes it away from what Michael Carrick wants, what you want, what I want. I think with Elliot Anderson, where we are is that we are waiting for this club to get its arse in gear and start moving on one of the three midfielders that we need. What we are actually waiting for, I do not know. But I would suspect what we're waiting for is for the player to say he wants to come to Man United over Man City. but that doesn't logically fit with what we've just said.

7:50If Man United are waiting for a player like they did with Kunia and Mbomo to say, I only want you. And remember, it's only a year ago that the Mbomo story sort of broke. And what happened there is other clubs were interested and he said, I'm only interested in Man United. And from that point, Man United took two months to negotiate a deal with Brentford. United like to move when they've got buy-in from the player, but it won't always work because if you've got a player that says well I am interested in coming to you but I'm not choosing you before the negotiations have started with my agent and my club for example Elliot Anderson and his agent might say to Man United well we do like you but what's your offer?

8:33And Man United might go we don't start doing offers until we know you definitely want to come to us and they could say well we're not doing that because there's another club here with a bigger offer on the table So are you matching that before we commit to you? Ah, well, if it's all about money, we're not interested. We are going to have to pay for Elliot Anderson. We are not going to get a exclusive, I just love Man United and I'll come in there and I'll earn less than I will at Man City. So what we're waiting for for Manchester United is to show the appetite and desire that we as fans have and Michael Carrick has to go and get that midfielder.

9:05And we'll have to wait and see how quickly they move on that. With Tonali, I think it's quite similar. You know, you've got Newcastle who want£100 million and he probably wants£250 ,000 a week. So I don't, I don't, ignoring the live chat, we're just going to get Belaber because he's cheap. I mean, maybe we are. But at some point, it sort of flies in the face of United's strategy of wanting to reduce the wage bill and not wanting to spend a lot of money on players. There are two options in the shop, Tonali and Anderson. I think they're both very viable. I think they're both very good. I think they're both suitable to replace Casemiro.

9:48The barrier is not Michael Carrick. The barrier is not the player. The barrier is not Newcastle and Nottingham Forest respectively. The barrier is Sir Jim Radcliffe and Joel Glazer and their idiotic wage bill structure and their inability to spend on what players are actually worth. We need to be aggressive on this. You are replacing one of our best players in Casemiro. And I think if you snooze, you lose. I think there is an opportunity to move quickly. And I'm still lost on this news we had last week that United are going to make a big signing before the World Cup. If we want to do this deal, you've got to push your way to the front.

10:29You can't sit and wait. So, look, it's going to be an interesting few days. What we cannot do is end up with neither. If we don't get, you know, if Elliot Anderson's wearing a Man City shirt and Tonali's wearing an Arsenal shirt and Carlos Belaba or, you know, Fernandes of West Ham is wearing a Man United shirt, I think we've failed. doesn't mean that they fail as players, but the market is so good. It's an open goal. I was speaking to somebody this morning about it. Man United are the one club in European football that needs to completely refit their midfield. It is a dead zone. Apart from Maynou, there is nobody in that midfield.

11:07It needs a complete and utter rebuild. Any other club in Europe, reputational, ambitious, whether it be Liverpool, Real, I mean, look, Jurgen Klopp rebuilt a midfield in one summer. I've never seen anybody do it. Don't even like Liverpool, but Jurgen Klopp in one summer bought Subozlai, Gravenberch, Endo and McAllister. He refitted his midfield in one summer. It can be done, but you've got to know who you want and you've got to go and get them. You can't go, I need to refit my midfield, but then walk in with two arms behind your back. You've got to go out, fists flying and say, aggression, this is what we want, this is what we're going to get.

11:47United just seem to be a football club that operates in the transfer market slowly and with parameters in the sense that we don't go rushing to the front to grab what we want, we wait. And then when we wait, we go, we're not spending that and we're not spending over that. And that can be problematic. So look, overpay for Anderson, get it done. We always overpay anyway. Get him in quick, says Storm. But what is overpaying on Anderson? I mean, 72 % of you want Anderson and 28 % of you want Tonali. But what is overpaying? It's a great question. Somebody said, what's your limit? It's easy for me. I would comfortably pay£100 million for either of them.

12:32I don't want both. And I think as fans, we're not unrealistic. It would be great to live in a world where you buy Tonali and Anderson. I accept we're not going to do that. Even though we're Manchester United and we should live without boundaries, even I would say, I'm not demanding both. I'll just want one of them. But£100 million is absolutely the price. And there'll be people in this live chat, there'll be people in the comments, there'll be people in the wider United fan base saying it's ridiculous paying£100 million for Elliot Anderson, or it's ridiculous to pay£100 million for Tenali. But it's not ridiculous.

13:15If you live in the real world and you understand football, there are parameters around what people cost. Declan Rice went for£100 million from West Ham two, three years ago. Caicedo from Brighton to Chelsea, again,£100 million. So that's the price. Has the football industry crashed? You know, is the football industry on its arse or are our teams earning more now? I mean, when Arsenal bought Declan Rice, I don't think the new Champions League format existed. So you weren't earning£100 million a year just being in the Champions League. so if anything you could argue prices should go up so 100 million pounds for tonali or anderson for me that's the price and if we've got people at united saying that's unrealistic well we've got bad owners because i think that's the price you don't pay 80 million pounds for belaba you don't pay 60 million pounds for scott you don't pay 60 million pounds for fernandez that's overpriced but 100 million pounds for tonali or anderson i think that's that's the going rate that's what it's going to cost.

14:20That's what Man City will pay. That's what Arsenal will pay. That's what it costs. So I think that that would be a realistic fee as far as I'm concerned. When do you think it'll happen? Look, we'll have to wait and see. But, you know, the source we've used for the last 18 months has been very accurate. And they said last week, Man United will make a big signing before the World Cup. I logically think that's Elliot Anderson. That's a theory. I don't know who it is. I don't think even the Labour can be done before the World Cup because I think Brighton will negotiate with us. Tonali maybe. I don't think we're signing Tonali, by the way.

14:59I'll be very happy with Tonali. I don't think we're signing Tonali because it's been briefed three times about his gambling issue. So I think that's United trying to, you know, turn fans against the Tonali deal. I don't think we do Tonali. But Chiumini is still realistic. Jose Mourinho, big news. Jose Mourinho is the new Real Madrid manager that's been announced this morning. That's good news in a footballing sense, but it's also good news in a Manchester United sense because he is going to be in that club very, very quickly. And I would say by the end of this month, we will know whether Chiumini is going to be part of Mourinho's plans or not.

15:39those conversations are going to be ongoing from now so you know Mourinho might say I'll assess the team when they come back from the World Cup which is the end of July in which case I don't think we can wait on Cermini he might say cash in let's go and get Rodri and Enzo Fernandes so I think that that's good news for us and we've got to monitor you know I'm very excited we've been doing this for many many years and if you are new make sure you subscribe because the transfer window I remember being in hotels in London talking about Lozano. I remember being on hotel balconies talking about Bruno with boats sinking and saying, oh, that's the end of that.

16:16So, look, I do love the summer transfer window, but I think we do need to monitor the rest of Europe because, you know, the Bundesliga is over now. And Stuttgart did get Champions League football. That makes it difficult to get Stille. and also you've got Leipzig, got Champions League football that increases the price of Yandiam Monde. So look, you know, there's a lot of things going on that we need to be monitoring that will have a direct impact on us, certainly. Let me just catch up on a few super chats. Just on Michael Carrick, by the way, somebody just said Romano said it's done with Steve Holland and Michael Carrick.

16:52What we're told is it's not done yet. It will get done, but it's not finalised yet. I think predicting Carrick will be signing his contract at some point in the next few hours or days is like saying Tuesday comes after Monday. It will happen, but it's not done yet. Why it's not done? Typical United negotiations, they're slow. Michael Carrick wants to sign this contract. He would have signed it on Friday if it was the contract he wanted. But United haven't delivered that contract yet. that doesn't mean he wants more money or you know he wants a longer contract it will still be two years with plus one we're told but obviously there's there's elements to it that they just haven't put it in front of him yet and so you know it will happen but Steve Holland has also signed the contract as well I would say on that it reminds me of those United fans who wanted INEOS over Qatar and told us that INEOS would get rid of the Glazers by 2026.

17:57Yeah, we know you. We've got the receipts. You're full of shit and your predictions never come true. Yeah, they told us we should all want INEOS because the Glazers would be gone by 2026. What's the date today? Is it by any chance the 18th of May, 2026? Yeah, you see, people talk shit and don't think there's any consequences. We should all want Ineos because they'll get rid of the Glazers by 2026.

18:31We should all want Carrick because he'll probably get rid of Steve Holland and bring somebody in with a better style of football. Steve Holland was never going anywhere. So yeah, Steve Holland has signed his contract as well. But look, I think with regards to the summer, we do want to see movement and we do want to see quick movement. And, you know, Bruno Fernandes is committing his future to Manchester United. Michael Carrick is the manager now. It's the exciting time. It's the Wilcox and Barada show, isn't it? It's time to go to work. It's time to prove that you know what you're doing. Daniel Darbysh has been a member for 66 months.

19:07You're a legend, sir. Thank you so much. Inu says, waiting to go for any of our top targets puts us at risk of other teams wanting to buy them. Chelsea will buy a midfielder for Alonso as well, says Inu. Also, Inu, thank you for the assist on this. Remember, if you're not at the front of the queue for midfielders, you will pay for it later. In essence, if Elliot Anderson signs for Manchester City for£100 million, every other deal is dictated to by that. So if you want to get Fernandes from West Ham, they might add another 10 on. They might go, hold on a minute. Get that MX gold card ready. I'm way too tired to cook tonight.

19:48You read my mind. With the gold card, we can get up to$120 a year in statement credits. Are you feeling the Cheesecake Factory? Five Guys? Either of those sound good? Yes. Which one? Both. Pay with the gold card to receive up to$10 a month in statement credits at participating partners. Uncover more ways to reward yourself at AmericanExpress.com slash Explore-Gold. Enrollment required. Terms apply. Nottingham Forest didn't do particularly well. They've just sold a midfielder for£100 million. We want 50 for Fernandes instead of 40 or 60. So prices will, you know, if United are going to say, we don't want to pay£100 million for Elliot Anderson, we only want to pay 80.

20:31When he goes to Man City for£100 million, the next player you go for will have another 10 or 20 added on anyway. So you'd be better off paying the extra 20 you don't want to pay on Elliot Anderson because you're going to pay it on everybody else. For example, Belaba's price will be dictated by what Anderson goes for. So will Scott's. Everybody's price will go up. We saw it with Embermo. By the time we did the deal with Brentford, we paid 10 million more than we wanted to because João Pedro, Alanga, and a few other people had gone for between 50 and 60 million. And Brentford quite rightly said, well, we think Embermo is worth more than that and you're desperate to sign him.

21:08So we paid a little bit more. Patrick Lynch says, we can't be a top team wanting top team results and then argue we're overpaying for top quality players. Deep down, fans don't want long shots or developing players. We don't have the patience. Mate, I agree with you, Patrick. I mean, I must bring this in. I seen a load of people yesterday saying we need a left winger because Dorgoo's clearly not a left winger. And I was like, oh my God. And this is where Patrick is right. If United think they can buy projects and this is going to work with this fan base. They've completely and utterly misunderstood this fan base.

21:41There is no patience. And the only people responsible for this are the owners. It's not fans, it's the owners. Our moods are dictated to by the owners. If they want to sack managers after 12 months, then they are going to lower the patience of this threshold of this fan base. Now, Dorgu in January plays against Arsenal and Man City on the wing and he's brilliant. He comes on for 20 minutes against Forrest, doesn't have a good game and he's not a winger anymore. If that's not an evidence of the lack of patience in this fan base, I don't know what is. How is Dorgu no longer a winger because of a bad 20 minutes against Forrest coming back from an injury?

22:23But it's all over social media. We need a winger. Dorgu's dog shit. He's definitely not a winger and I'm like, hold on a minute. You're absolutely glazing him in January when he was fully fit. He has a rusty 20 minutes against Forrest and he's not a winger anymore. But I'm not criticising the fans, you know, that people are free to make their own minds up, but it's the lack of patience. There's no patience. If this board think Carrick loses two games and he doesn't lose the fan base forever, they're idiots. I don't even know what percentage of our fans actually want Carrick anyway, but let's say it's 70%.

22:58If he loses a couple of games next season playing this ollie ball, that'll go down to 50 % very quickly. And when you lose the fans, you lose the fans. So they absolutely need to realise that if they're building projects, this is going to fail. There is no patience in this fan base for projects. They need to go and get players that hit the ground running. Absolutely. Great point, Patrick. James says Carrick's job will be determined on his favouritism Maguire if he continues to start him next season his job will be very short-lived caught out time after time yesterday and he can't cover spaces I like Harry Maguire I think he's fought through a lot I hope he does go to the World Cup but I'm telling you now he'll be fine in international football but in a back four for Manchester United he was he was better off with Amrim in a back three same for Luke Shaw Luke Shaw will get exposed at left back and Harry Maguire will get exposed in a back four it feels like either we pay 100 million now for a good player or we pay 50 million for an average player then have to pay 50 million for another average player next season says kez cheap site cheap costs you more in the long run doesn't it it does it feels like um that was a great point from kesman anderson stiller uh and uh yarmulik for me fits our bills as bhm ufc and dino says hypothetically if you're not a good get given 200 million to spend in the summer and use 100 million anderson that would mean they only have 100 million to buy two more midfielders, a new left back and a backup striker.

24:23And this is the problem, Dino, but that's what the previous point was about. So you wouldn't spend half your budget on Anderson because it wouldn't give as much left. But if you don't buy Anderson and you buy cheap alternatives, you'll end up spending it again anyway. And I think we need to spend 300 million. I think everybody understands that. How quick do you want transfers wrapped up this window, says Steven, look, honestly, I would love Man United to sign six players before preseason starts. But I accept that this summer transfer window, there is no preseason. Like Bruno and co won't be back until the first week of August and the season starts two weeks later.

25:02We're not having a preseason. It's why I didn't mind a World Cup manager getting the job because there is no preseason. We'll get pictures of Carrick and Holland at Carrington in the first two weeks of July but the players they'll be training won't be first teamers you know it'll be reserves and people that didn't go to the World Cup so I don't really care about pre-season in the sense that you know it's a World Cup year and therefore you're a hypocrite if you say you've got to get all your signings done for pre-season because there'll be people we sign who are going to the World Cup United might also go let's not sign a player at the World Cup until after the World Cup in case they get injured they might also go let's not buy a player at the World Cup until after the World Cup because we don't have to pay their wages.

25:43So I completely get the fact that we are going to buy players in August. We are going to buy players without a pre-season, basically. And that's mainly to do with the World Cup. So United's normal tactic of buying late is actually going to be acceptable this year. But I think there are certain players you need to buy before. Now, somebody raised a very good point about two minutes ago, and it whizzed through, and I tried to pause the chat but it went through why do you think we'd sign elliot anderson before the world cup considering he could get injured or we've got to start paying his wages and the answer to that is because there's competition for elliot anderson um it might be a deal that can't get done till august it might be a deal that goes all summer but and nottingham forest might want to wait till after the World Cup because his price might go up.

26:39But because of Man City, I think they'll want to get it done quickly. So I think it will get done before the World Cup. But if it was only us in the race, I think United would take till August because they would think, well, what if he gets injured and we might, you know, we'd have to pay his wages. I remember Bale saying on the overlap that Zidane didn't do any coaching. He just relied on his top quality players. We need the best players possible, says Nick. And it's my daughter, Navineet's birthday last Friday, belated, says Tarwin. happy birthday to your daughter hope you had a good one and Michael Murray says Anderson, Stiller and Fernandes are my ideal top three midfielders plus Mark who do you dislike more Vinnie Jones or Suarez definitely Suarez definitely Suarez Double D says we only want to spend on players who commit to the club before any deal is done how about we show our transfer targets our commitment to them by getting the deal done get Anderson in now and Inu says by August who will be left well yeah you're always going to be running against everybody else, aren't you?

27:37And it's who gets there first. Can't get the image of the perfect process into our box from Anderson. I pray we get him. To me, he's better than Tonali for his creativity, says Archer. Thank you very much for that. And did you hear the rumours that Mourinho wants Rashford for next season at Madrid? Do you think the rumours are true? And do you think he would go if Barcelona are hesitant about buying him, says Dino? I have not heard these rumours at all. The only thing I would say about that is, is that Mourinho made it very obvious that he wanted to get rid of two players when he was at the club and the board said no.

28:09And it could only have been Shaw, Rashford and Martial.

28:17I think it was Shaw and Martial. So maybe Mourinho did get on with Rashford. But a lot of people feel that Mourinho didn't want Rashford at Man United. So I don't know. I don't know, to be honest with you. And I think as long as Rashford, if Rashford can't go to Barcelona, he probably would go to Real Madrid, wouldn't he? I mean, who wouldn't? But look, ultimately, I think as long as Rashford gets to stay in Spain, everybody's happy, aren't they, on that one. um thank you for all the comments that are coming in by the way uh let me move on so uh next just very quickly i want to talk about this i saw this last night a little bit topical right so manchester united's bruno fernandez has broke has equaled the all-time premier league um assist record now it was out there yesterday what are your thoughts on this bruno has 20 assists only eight have come from open play.

29:10Thierry Henry's 20 assists, 20, all 20 open play. Kevin De Bruyne has 20 assist record, 17 from open play. Mesut Ozil had 19 assists in one season, 14 from open play in one season, 18 from open play. And Frank Lampard had 18, 16 from open play. So a lot of people are saying Bruno's record is shit compared to everybody else because, you know, Henri, all 20 goals, all 20 assists from open play, De Bruyne, 17 from open play, Bruno Fernandes, eight from open play. You know what I think about that? I mean, if Mbermo and Ahmad and De Lowe could finish, he'd have smashed the record and he'd have about 14 from open play anyway.

29:59So I just think at the end of the day the rule is most assists in a season in the Premier League and we can all get technical and we can all say Henri's was better and De Bruyne's was better but the reality is the record book says 20 assists by Bruno Fernandes and next week it's going to say 21 maybe 22 and he's going to be the all time Premier League history maker there is nothing there that says you don't get it or you get more if they're from open play so all Bruno's got to do is get an assist next week and then the conversation's over anyway look this season has been very unique we've had a relatively interesting title race we've had a relatively interesting relegation race and we've had a relatively interesting race for you know fifth and sixth but quality rise the Premier League's not been very good this year and Bruno Fernandez stands head and shoulders above anybody else creatively.

30:56But you play the league you're in. There is no way, no way. And this is where football IQ comes into it. In this Premier League season, there is no way any player is going to get 20 assists and get 16 in open play. Mo Salah may have done it a couple of years ago. It's not that type of league. I don't look at Bruno and go, oh, Bruno. I look at the Premier League and go, look at what you've done. Look at the previous years. 20 assists for Henry, 20 in open play. 20 assists for De Bruyne, 17 in open play. Bruno, 20 assists, 8 in open play. That's not Bruno. That's the league. That's what the Premier League have allowed to happen to their own league.

31:45This league, this season, in my opinion, is crap. Quality-wise, it's crap. You know, you look at that last 15 minutes with Forrest yesterday, it was entertaining, it was end-to-end. But most of the games we've seen this season are teams playing deep, slowing the game down, taking a minute to do a throw-in, taking two minutes to do a corner. I am not surprised that over half of Bruno's assists are coming from set pieces, because that's the league we operate in now. When Henri was doing his thing and De Bruyne was doing his thing, I think the game was quicker. I think it was more open. But we have gone very, very strategic.

32:25The biggest growth market in football at the moment is De Deene. He's minted. You know, it's all about long throw-ins, set pieces, slowing the game down. So don't blame Bruno. Blame the league. That's, I, you know, as Greg, our producer, said, an assist is an assist the record stands Bruno Fernandes is not responsible for that and I'm telling you now you're not going to get anybody getting 15, 16, 17, 18 open play assists out of 20 in this league because it's not that type of league you put Bruno in a PSG team, he will get 20 open play assists, you put him in a Barcelona team, he will get 20 open play assists, you put him in a Bayern Munich team he'll get 20 open play assists but in this league how is it Bruno Fernandes' fault that in a league that is focused on slow football, stop-start football, set pieces and long throw-ins and corners, of course the majority of his assists are going to come from something that the league is.

33:26It's got nothing to do with him. It's got nothing to do with him at all. So, you know what, I think it's sour grapes and, you know, all these Arsenal fans or Liverpool fans or Man City fans saying, ha ha, the record's not valid. Maybe look at your own football because you're a product of what the problem is in the Premier League. And look, if next season, Cherokee gets 20 assists and 20 from open play, I'll eat my shoes. But I think this is the way that football is being played at the moment. And the only way you're going to break an assist record is if you're good at set pieces and corners because that's the biggest growth market in football at the moment.

34:02So I think it's ridiculous. I think it's ludicrous. Marlowe says, if we're being honest, does Embermo and Kunja work in a Carrick system? In an ideal world, should they be replaced if the future is Oli Ball? Well, I was asked, Marlowe, to rank Kunja's season out of 10. And I think it's a six. Now, some people might say a seven, some people might say a five. I think it's an average six because I think under Amorim, there was moments of good and there was moments where he wasn't that good. But under Carrick, he's been playing out of position and there has been a couple of goals but his general performances haven't been any better than a 6 for me so I think Mboumo's season I'd like to give it a 7 but if I'm being honest it probably is more a 6.5 Genre a 7 you know maybe a harsh 6 what that says to me is is what's going to happen to him next season now Mohamed wants to give Kunia a 7 or an 8 I think that's a joke and I'm a massive fan of Kunya but my concern is a little bit like Marlo what's he going to be next season and why are we linked to Morgan Rodgers?

35:11Is he actually going to be part of the plans? I don't think we've seen the best of Kunya I think when you look at Kunya at Wolves he was incredible in the role that Bruno is we need to get him more central the goal for Mbermo comes from the fact that Kunya's central and Bruno's out on the right yesterday I think out on the left you know it's a square peg in a round hole really so I think with Kunja for me he's a Man United player and and he's a Man United player for the next few years but we've do we have the system to get the best out of him I don't know with Mbomo I think he is a right winger and we play with the right winger I think the future of Mbomo is better than Kunja because his position is there and you know for me Ahmad is is not the solution at the moment um for me Ahmad's going backwards um you know if you want to give me if you want me to give Ahmad a score out of 10 this season it's a five um he did reasonably well as a right wing back but his output since Christmas has been really poor um so you know I'd give Ahmad a five Bruno nine Harry Maguire 7.5 Casemiro 8 you know even Luke Shaw you'd probably give him a 6.5 Deleuze would probably get a well no let's not do Deleuze but I think Embermo I've got no problem with him I just think he needs to play in his position we spent 65 million pounds on Embermo and we played him in his right wing position somebody said to me this is and look Data Dean would have to check this for me um i can't mark i'm on holiday at the moment uh you know i've booked an absolutely brilliant deal by analyzing multiple um travel agent websites and flights and uh i'm currently in the maldives for two pounds fifty uh but i have to fly back tomorrow and it's only a six hour stay but i think with regards to embermo we've spent 65 million pounds on a guy that was scoring goals for fun at Brentford on the wing and we've played him on the right wing less than 10 % of the season.

37:25I don't need Data Dean. He's on holiday. That, to me, is the issue. You spend£65 million on a right winger that was scoring goals for fun and then you play him in his position less than 10 % of the season. So I'm not worried about him, Bermot. I think we just need to play him in the position that we bought him from. with Kunja I'd actually put Kunja up front I'd rather see him centrally than on the wing anyway I think he's got more about him but look I am worried about either of those players I think they're good signings I think there's been good points and you know obviously there's been points of the season where it's been challenging but I think that you know

38:13they could have really good second seasons. They've had very challenging first seasons. I said this the other day, to come into a club where you sign for one manager in a system that suits you and then him to be sacked at Christmas and go into a system that doesn't suit you. I think that's a very challenging first season at Man United and I think they'll be better for it. Pengers says, I couldn't care less about the open play discussion. Bruno still had to put the ball into the spot for our guys to score on set pieces. If that's easy, every club taker would top the assist charts as pengers exactly and also i think i think we'd all be very naive if we didn't think that um you know bruno fernandez would not have 20 assists if he was at um crystal palace the fact that he's got harry maguire and casemiro who are two of the best if not the best headers of the ball from a corner um i think only van dyke and gabriel can compete with them um he's got two and every assister is reliant on the person who gets on the end of it as we saw yesterday and burmo should have had a hat trick and missed all three chances um so i think that having casemiro and maguire has been a huge part as to why bruno fernandez has broken that has equaled that record and i think will break it but you're right you've still got to have the quality of ball.

39:38You can have Harry Maguire and Casemiro, but if you can't put the cross on their head, they won't happen either. Kunyur at Stryker would be similar to Rooney, says JSD. I would like to see it. I would like to see it. Nick says, Morning, mate. Aside from the star signings this summer, the club has to find more games, like, more gems, not more games, like Le Mans and Heaven to supplement the squad, I think. I mean, look, there's not a lot to be there's not a lot to be negative about in relation to Man United but I've got to say I'm a little bit disappointed that Aidan Heaven got no minutes again yesterday I mean it's a home game against Nottingham Forest that doesn't mean anything and we were you know and I didn't bring him on or Yoro so I hope they play next week because the brilliance of Le Mans is he's played every week and he's got better for it we've seen Heaven play really well and then be ditched from the team completely from Maguire and Martinez who are experienced players I don't really and they're both going to the World Cup I mean for me it's the other way around Maguire and Martinez should be on limited minutes and Yarrow and Heaven should be getting the minutes but you know next season we'll have more games so hopefully next season with two games a week we will see more of heaven but it's one to keep an eye on because Carrick is one of the latest substitution managers in the league and I don't think we've seen a lot of rotation because we've only been playing one game a week so it's a watching brief to see how much he actually does rotate next season because Aidan Heaven's ready to play games I mean Martinez was fantastic yesterday You know, you can't argue with that.

41:33But I do want to see Aidan Heaven developing. They're very important years for him. We can't loan them either. You can't loan them. Morning, mate. Thank you very much, Nick. Do you rate Evan Nielsen for United as a second striker, says Stratford Signal? You know what? The West Ham guy looked all right yesterday. Evan Nielsen looks all right for Bournemouth as well. I mean, I wouldn't be bothered by anything like that. you know a Premier League proven striker who can come in and compete is fine by me as long as it's not Solanke or Calvert-Lewin we really need to pick wisely for a midfielder says Owen one bad mistake and it could set us back years I think Man United are on a cliff edge that's exciting but I think we are on the on the edge of a cliff I saw something this morning I think it was Nathan Salt said 2020 United pull out all the stops including meeting Cantona and Sir Alex to get Jude Bellingham they they fail 2023 long-term target Declan Rice ends up at Arsenal 2026 Elliot Anderson is the number one target for Man United's midfield they cannot fail again and it's true Jude Bellingham was shown round Carrington and met Sir Alex signs for Dortmund Declan Rice was a long-term target signs for Arsenal here we are again Elliot Anderson number one target all season, can't be signing for Man City.

42:59You're not a serious club if you keep missing out on these types of players. But I do feel that we are on the cliff edge because essentially, if it goes wrong with Carrick and it goes wrong with the summer transfer window, there is nowhere to hide. It's not, we're not responsible. They haven't listened to us. It's the board again. And they can't afford to get this wrong. There's a lot of risk. There's a lot of red flags, but they can't afford to get it wrong. I don't think anybody's going to go, oh, well, you took a chance and you got it wrong. Not anymore. If they get this right, United could finally start to build their way back.

43:38If they get this wrong, I just don't think we can go back and have another season where we're out of Europe. I don't think we can have another season where we're miles off the top four. I don't think we can have another season where the football's shit and we're getting turned over 5-0 by our rivals. Those days need to be over. We've had too many false dawns. We've had too many roller coasters. We've had too many, you know, I always say this in the last 13 years, I haven't seen Man United play three games in a row. Well, Liverpool and Arsenal and Man City and Chelsea, they'll be able to point loads of times.

44:10They've done that. So we've got to start turning that tide. We cannot. It's not acceptable anymore for Man United to keep going up and down the mountain. Like we've got to stabilize. We've got to start building. And that's the board responsible for this. They're taking a risk on the coach. 100%. Don't take a risk on the summer signings. Don't set him up to fail. because I tell you for free, if Carrick fails, it's on this board. And if Carrick fails, we ain't getting Luis Enrique, we ain't getting Thomas Tuchel, we ain't getting that type of a coach. If Carrick fails, we won't be in Europe again and we will be looking at people who we refuse this time.

44:54You'll be looking at people like Marco Silva. You'll be looking at people like Ruben Amrim. You'll be looking at people like Glasner. You will not be looking at Ancelotti or Tuchel or Enrique because we won't have Champions League football. So this has to work. I don't think people think it through that if we sack Carrick, it will be because we're in shit. And if we're in the shit, we will not be able to get decent managers. We can't get decent managers now. It was a no from decent managers now. And we have Champions League football. Imagine what it will be if we're not in Europe and we're sacking Carrick.

45:28I think it will be even worse. you know all those managers that said no to us we've got champions league football and they're saying no imagine what they're going to say if carrot gets sacked and we don't have champions league football they're going to go yeah i really do not fancy that job so it has to work this time the work the only andy ever says spend 100 million on anderson get it back when he helps qualify for the champions league next summer yeah i hope you're right on that one mate i really really do Let me just have a quick look at the chat So Thoughts on a one year deal for Lewandowski And do you think we need another fullback?

46:11He's an idiot

46:17Breathe

46:22Carrick's appointment is being muted as one for stability Says Patrick Lynch Like you said, Mark, the board needs to front up and help create some stability with him. Recently, all they have done is make it less so. I don't think we're ever going to see it, Patrick. But what I despair about around this board is they're seen and not heard. Yesterday, Sir Jim Radcliffe's there, sat with Barada and Jason Wilcox doing an advert for the worst stag do in the world. I mean, they just they give off no enthusiasm. They give off no confidence. They are really uninspiring. But the only person that talks at Man United is the manager.

47:05And look, Michael Carrick's not the most inspiring person we've ever had in the manager's chair. So unless he gets better at that, that's a problem. but Jason Wilcox and Omar Barada and Sir Jim Radcliffe should be doing more you know they decided to sack a manager that was a three-year project after 12 months halfway through the season they've decided to give it to an interim again where is their interview where is their direction like it cannot always be the manager we should have statements of you know direction coming out of the club and we don't we don't if you think the number of chances Bruno created from open play?

47:44Sorry, Derek says, if you think about the number of chances Bruno created from open play and if our players were more clinical, he could have had 25 to 30 assists. Exactly. Chances on Carrick getting sacked mid-season, says Sim. I mean, look, you know, I think it's unlikely because I don't think they will... I think evidence dictates the truth and you know, the only reason Amram got sacked is because he sacked himself. He fell out with Wilcox to an extent where they couldn't work together. United didn't actually want to sack Amram. They wanted to stick with him, but he refused to work with Wilcox basically.

48:23So they sacked him. Michael Carrick is never going to do that. You can just tell by his personality. He doesn't have that in him to fall out with Wilcox. So they'd have to sack him on results, but they weren't even close to sacking in Amrim on results. So even if the results are bad, I think they'll stick with him. It just depends on, in that hypothetical, how bad the results get. Look, Liverpool desperately want to keep Arnaz lot, but with every loss, it's making it harder for them to keep him. I think Carrick will be in post for at least 18 months, maybe two seasons. I think they've made a commitment that they're going to have to stick with, to be honest with you.

49:10Because if they sack him, they basically sack themselves as well. Like, I think Carrick will be here for a long time because if he gets sacked, I don't think Wilcox can sack him because he's basically sacking himself. I don't think Barada can sack him because he's basically sacking himself. You know, in the time they've been there, they've backed Ten Hag and sacked him. They've backed Tamarim and sacked him. They can't do it again because there's only them to blame. So I think he's here. I agree with Savage. I think two years minimum. The scary thing, if it goes wrong, is what we have to put up with as fans.

49:46You know, how bad does it get? Because I think they will have to. And I think it's not a bad thing. I think every manager should be backed. You know, I don't think you should be sacking managers after 12 months. It's a joke. But I think they have to stick with him. I think this could be, you know, it for a long time. The scary thing is, is what other clubs do in that time. You know, if Alonso works out at Chelsea, if Liverpool get rid of slot and bring a good manager in and Arteta keeps doing well at Arsenal and Man City replace Pepwell, there's four clubs that could just say goodbye to us whilst we're fucking about.

50:18But look, hopefully Carrick can keep these results going next season. If it was me, I would rather put Cunha as an option up front with Sesco and get another left winger. That should cover our front line with injuries. Yes, lemon lover. I like the idea of that. appreciate that how are you here and you're on a video that got released on That's Football says Maz Rawawi it's called The Magic of Scheduling and Live pal that's what's going on there there is a video just gone up about Mourinho on That's Football which I recorded earlier here's one I recorded earlier

50:56just something coming out from Sky here the performance of Elliot Anderson in United's win over Forest showed Carrick exactly why he should be the man to replace Casemiro. City lead the race for his signature as it stands. They also tried to sign Rice before he joined Arsenal. United should move heaven and earth to bring him to Old Trafford if they have ambitions of challenging again one day. Hmm. I think I've heard that statement before Sky Sports. United should move heaven and earth to bring him to Old Trafford. Hmm. I think I heard a certain somebody say that 24 hours ago. Anyway, I agree. The England international is perhaps the closest you can get to a sure thing in the market since Arsenal paid £105 million to sign Declan Rice.

51:34I completely agree. I completely agree. Absolutely. Tom Heaton is going to get a new one-year contract with Man United. He's the third goal for he's the third choice goalkeeper. Doesn't really matter. Oh, Sesco is set to miss the rest of the season. He's got a shin problem and United are intelligently United are of a mind to let him have some rest and recuperation ahead of the season. Look, it's disappointing. when a season is over for a player. But he is struggling with an injury. He's not going to the World Cup and he essentially gets six weeks of recovery now. So I don't think that's a problem.

52:16Any thoughts on the handball yesterday? No. I'd rather just move on. Yeah. OK, don't forget, five o 'clock tonight. I am back on Baller League. It's the final week and we are the Kingmakers. we can basically decide you get into the top four. We've got, we're doing a show at seven o 'clock tonight on the United Stand. I think Terry's back with that. I've got two o 'clock show for you as well. Obviously we'll react to any big news that comes out. We've just dropped a video on that's football about Mourinho. Get onto that. Any truth with Mount being linked to Coventry's is one and only. Not unless Coventry have got 250 grand a week that want to play on players, which they haven't.

52:56Thank you everybody for watching. Stay safe. Take care. I'll speak to you on the next one.

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