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0:00Hi everybody and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news as we receive an Edison setback or do we? Are we about to do this deal or aren't we? We'll delve into the truth. Two decent sources from Italy giving two very different updates. Also, Chiumini looking unlikely. We'll talk about that. And don't forget to remind me later in the show to talk to you about Morgan Rodgers, Lewis Hall and Alex Scott because I was meant to give the updates on them last night and we simply ran out of time. That wire is getting on my absolute tits. Move over there.

0:36Yeah, OCD. OCD. Yeah, lots to get into on the show this morning. Also updates on Diamande, midfield targets and Wilcox and a little bit around Maguire as well. But look, we're going to start off talking about Edison and what is going on with him. Because look, there is an update this morning around Edison about how Man United are closing the deal from Matei Maretto, who works with Fabrizio Romano. So on the one hand, this Edison deal is getting very, very close. On the other hand, Murtagh Madness continuing at Atalanta. Yes, apologies last night. Robert McCormack with our first Super Chat of the morning is absolutely spot on.

1:18Murtagh is actually sporting director at Atalanta. Yeah, does it make you feel better about the Edison deal? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But look, this is what Fabrizio said last night, which made it feel like we were drifting away from an Edison deal. But there's two parts to this story. So on his YouTube channel last night, Fabrizio Romano said, while Edison is in Man United's shortlist, a deal isn't imminent or close. United are on a mission in Italy to hold discussions regarding multiple players. Emissaries have been on a mission in Italy for several transfer topics, exits and incoming.

1:58Talks advanced also for Edison. Agreement close, but still waiting for United decision on whether they want to proceed and close the deal. Edison is putting himself on the market. Man United are considering several options in the midfield. Not only him, it's a discussion. Why is there so many rumours coming out of Italy is because United have been on a mission in Italy to have conversations on different players. Ederson was just one conversation. It's more than three players. So advanced talks agreement could happen, but Man United are deciding whether to proceed or not. Look, I'm not running a poll on it because 54 % of you wanted to do the deal yesterday, and I don't know why that would have changed.

2:38I think that the interesting thing is, is that, you know, what are we doing in Italy? Who else are we looking at in Italy? you know Tenali's agent is probably Italian I would hope that might be something to do with it Xerxi going back to Italy makes sense Rasmussen Napoli's already done I've got to be honest I love Italian football you know Italia 90 Pavarotti Channel 4 Gaza all that lot's great but I don't know that I don't know that it's a great league to be recruiting from the Bundesliga I understand La Liga, to a certain extent, I understand. Serie A, I mean, we've not had a great hit record there.

3:20Rasmus, Xerxi, you know, it's not gone that well recently. And it's not a league. I was watching some of the, somebody was sending me clips of Edison last night. And I felt like I needed to put it on, you know, on YouTube. You can put it, I mean, I know people who watch this show on 1.5. You know, you can speed the show up, which is, you know, if you want to cut down on a half an hour show to get it to 20 minutes, you can do it on speed 1.5. I was watching Edison's highlights on 1.5 just to speed it up a bit because it is factually slow. So I think, look, Romano's update is really interesting in the sense that it's like we are having talks and a deal.

3:58You know what it is like? It's like walking into your supermarket this afternoon. The weather's good. Yeah. You walk down the aisle and they've got some specials on on hot dog baps and hot dogs. Right. And you go, wasn't thinking about hot dogs, but that's a good offer. Put it in the basket. We can always put it on a different aisle. I hate people who do that, but people do do it. And then you walk into the next aisle and they've got like chicken and beef burgers and loads of better stuff and you just go get rid of hot dogs. I think we might be, in fact, I think we are securing deals and then taking a pick.

4:35United seem to like to have players that have decided they want to come to Man United. So Baleba, Cunha, Mbamo. They all wanted to come to Man United last summer. But Labour still wants to come this summer. So I feel like we might be lining up deals that we know we can do if we don't get deals done that we want to do at Anderson, Tenali, etc. But then there is another update this morning, which is very interesting, coming in from Matei Moreto, who works with Fabrizio Romano. They have an Italian YouTube channel. He was on it this morning. And he has said in the last hour, Edison is on his way to Man United the two clubs have reached a verbal agreement and the player has already reached an agreement on his contract the final details regarding the transfers remain to be finalised further discussions will take place in the coming days to reach a final conclusion it's not closed Tuesday and Wednesday to close the deal 50 million euros is mentioned although there will probably be some manoeuvrability on wages and commissions also Tonali is still a player of interest So, you know, on the one hand, you think we're not signing Edison.

5:46And on the other hand, we're signing Edison for 50 million euros on Tuesday or Wednesday. I think it's a difficult one, isn't it? Because I bring in the news. We're reacting to that news. But I feel like I feel like it's it's just going to be one of those. It's going to split the fan base, isn't it? You know, it will be. And I think that, you know, I sort of look at Edison, who's 27, and we're going to pay about£40 million for him. And I think Bruno Guimaraes at Newcastle, who's 28, is probably going to be around£60 million. And I just think, you know, Bruno Guimaraes starts for Brazil, is Premier League proven.

6:28Edison doesn't get in the Brazil squad, can't get in the Brazil squad, has never played in the Premier League. And it feels a little bit like signing Belaber instead of Anderson. you know you're quite close to the price you don't want to pay you're stupidly close to the price you don't want to pay for a player that's not as good as the player that's a little bit more expensive like Bruno Gamera's will cost 20 million pounds more than Edison and he is 18 months older but he's better you know Elliot Anderson will and Tonali will cost you about 20 to 30 million pounds more than Belaba, but they're better.

7:06And it feels like we might just do those types of deals. And also, look, I think in relation to Edison, you know, I have to be balanced on this because it's a player that I've liked for a few years. I mean, this is not a Wilcox or Reneos signing. He has been scouted by United for many years. So if this goes wrong, who gets the blame? I think this is an easy signing for Wilcox because he knows that we have been scouting him for a long time. And if it goes wrong, he can say, well, it wasn't me, but it is him because he signs it off. But I think, look, looking at the people that have a problem with this deal, you do have to realise that if Edison leads to Tenali, it's fine.

7:49If Edison leads to Anderson, it's fine. If Edison leads to Belaber and somebody else who's not that good. It's not a very good summer transfer window. So it just depends on what piece Edison is. And if he's the third midfielder, it might be okay. Having said that, where I do have an issue is we can't just go, well, it's the third midfielder, it doesn't matter. I do agree with people like Beth to a certain extent that just because it's the third midfielder doesn't mean we can just go, oh, it's fine. Let's take a big, massive risk from Italy. I'd like the third midfielder to be Scott. I'd like the second midfielder to be Stiller and I'd like the first midfielder to be Anderson or Tonali.

8:28My third midfielder is Scott. He's better than Edison. So even though he might be the third midfielder, I still think there's way better options out there. Are we doing this because it's cheap? Yes. As I said last night, if he didn't have one year left on his contract and was£40 million, we wouldn't go with him. If he had three years left on his contract and was £60 million, we wouldn't do the deal. We're doing it because of price. And also you've got to ask the question, does he genuinely improve the squad? Is he definitely better than Agate? Because I've got people telling me he's definitely better than Agate.

8:57And I seem to recall two years ago going, Agate looks like a really good signing coming in from a foreign league. So I don't know whether it is a better deal than Agate. I don't know whether it is a big step up. I don't know that there is a massive difference in the two players. And obviously he doesn't get picked for Brazil. you know Ancelotti doesn't pick him for Brazil he doesn't look at him he doesn't look I think he's had two caps in the Copa America last summer and that's it he's never gone near him again I think you know there is a fair point to say that the club likes to take cheap risks I think their club are protecting you know the budget and you know it's you know it is a player that's going to come in with not a lot of optimism, is it?

9:45And, you know, I don't think there's necessarily a lot of optimism around Michael Carrick. And I don't think there's going to be a lot of optimism around Edison. All I see, because I'm doing it myself, is us fans convincing ourselves that this might not work. Sorry, that this might work. And as Malpa says, you know, we've got a great opportunity this summer to go and push on and sign top players, but they aren't going to do it. I don't know what we're doing in Italy. I do not know what we're doing in Italy thinking that's the place to go. I mean, Germany is the place that most Premier League clubs go now for players, not Italy.

10:19You know, Man City aren't looking in Italy. Arsenal aren't looking in Italy. Liverpool aren't looking in Italy. So what are we doing in Italy? It's not that league anymore. Hopefully it will be one day because Italian football is fantastic, but it's not that league anymore. So what we're doing in Italy, God knows. We probably think we're hip and Italy is the next big place, but it's not. they haven't qualified for a World Cup for what 10 years Inter Milan are a decent side that's about it it's a strange place to be looking for players but ultimately look I think there is a decent player there but it ain't groundbreaking and there's much better out there and I think it comes down to price I think you know at the end of the day Garner's better than Edison Scott's better than Edison you could argue Jojo Gomez is better than Edison Wharton's better than Edison and you can argue that Labour's better than Edison if I'm being honest.

11:12You could. You could. And I don't want to make that argument but you could. I think this comes down to price and I think United... I find it a strange deal. I don't mind the player but I find it a strange deal. Did you see the Atalanta manager comments? Romano tweeted it, Rory. I did. I did. And this is another good addition to the show. So this came out last night. It was, let me just get it. It was something along the lines of, when was it? It came out like midnight last night, didn't it? Yeah, Atalanta manager. Edison didn't play today because there's a concrete negotiation with a top club.

12:03And John Murtagh is their sporting director. So look, I don't even know how to comment on that one, to be honest. I don't really know what to say. Not easy to convince a centre midfielder. Sorry, Robert, what did you say? Not easy to convince a centre midfielder to come in as fourth choice, says Robert McCormack. Yeah, but you know what, Robert? You're right, and we shouldn't be doing that anyway. I've said this for ages. This is where I can be absolutely. I've always said this. We shouldn't be buying bench players. This is the Goldbridge take, right? We shouldn't be buying bench players. You should never buy bench players.

12:39You shouldn't buy a bench player. You should buy a player and say to them, look, I've got my own ideas, but you're in the race. You come in and impress and you will play. You shouldn't buy a bench player. I mean, Edison is definitively on that shelf where it says SJA, like that's where Edison is. He ain't second tier and he ain't third. He isn't second and he isn't first. He's definitely going in where those trainers are. He's definitely going in as a bench player because he's cheap. And I like Edison. I think he's an half decent player with potential. I mean, can you say potential at 27? It seems a bit weird.

13:18but he is definitely a cheap bench player. Absolutely. King Oz says, Edison is not a bench player. Mate, I'm sorry. I'm all for opinions. And if you are right and he wins his place in the first team, fair play. But if you think he's a first team player for Man United, why is nobody else in for him? You know, if he's a starting player for a top three Premier League midfield, why has nobody else gone in for him apart from Atletico Madrid that they weren't willing to pay 40 million? is not a starter for Man United. He's not. Emily Derry says, once again, I have the feeling that the club is looking at the price and not the value.

13:57And it's not the first time I've thought this. But you know what, Emily? The price is wrong anyway. I mean, it's almost like maths for morons because£40 million isn't cheap for an Atalanta midfielder. It's not cheap. It's really not. I mean, I think I'm right in saying that Liverpool paid Brighton £40 million for Alexi McAllister. But£40 million for a 27-year-old Atalanta midfielder is not cheap. I don't think it is cheap. What do Atalanta value him at then? £70,£80? I mean, he is not a£70 or£80 million player. He's got one year left on his contract and we're going to pay£40 million. That's not cheap.

14:45That's being rinsed. I want people to remember this. He's got one year left on his deal. This is not good negotiation and it's not a good deal. One year left and we're playing£40 million. No, I don't think it's a good deal at all. I think£40 million is cheap, but it depends what the circumstances of the player is. VIR says, so we can overpay for Edison who looks bang average, but we won't pay the fees for Anderson and Diamande. Arsenal and City both spent the fees for Rodri and Rice to compete for top honours. And you know what? I never hear anybody saying that Bayern Munich overpaid for Harry Kane when they bought what was probably a 30 or 29-year-old for£100 million.

15:28I don't hear people talking about Real Madrid spending too much money on Jude Bellingham, which was a lot of money. I never hear people saying that Declan Rice was a flop either and they spent£100 million on him. I don't hear people saying that Caicedo was a flop for Chelsea and they spent£100 million on him. You know, United's fear of spending a lot of money is clearly because we don't have the right director of football. Because if you've got the right director of football and you buy the right players, they don't flop. You know, no one ever talks about Declan Rice being a flop, but United are shit scared of it.

16:05We won't spend£100 million because we don't want to spend it. And also we're scared of flopping. that's what happens when you have a decent director of football Marlowe says going for a player that we've chosen not to go for several times is lazy so for four years our scouts haven't found any better candidate I think this is an interesting point as well Marlowe and I think Edison's a decent player but if you think I'm sitting here and saying it's a good signing you're sadly mistaken and I'll tell you why I won't do it I'm not in agreement with all these people on social media saying he's a bag of shit, it's a waste of time, this, that and the other.

16:41I don't agree with that because I don't think he's a bag of shit. I think he's an interesting player. But if you think I'm sitting here and saying he's going to work at Man United, you'd have to be a complete and utter prat. He doesn't get in the Brazil squad. He's 27 this summer. He's overpriced with one year left on his contract. Nobody else wants him. Atletico Madrid pulled out of a deal in January and we've been scouting him for at least three years. I mean, there are a lot of red flags there. The only person that could come and say, I've got more red flags than you is Belaber. I mean, there are a lot of red flags with Edison.

17:12And Marleau makes a great point. We have been linked to this player for three years. Why for three years didn't we go and get him when he was 24 or 25 or 26? Price? Well, that's a rubbish reason. Price? Oh, we didn't buy a player we want because of price. Well, that lacks ambition. It is a bit strange. It is a bit strange, I admit. Are we in for Liao? Talks of a swap deal with Xerxes. I mean, again, you know, Fabrizio said we're in Italy talking about a lot of different players. Liao terrifies me. Can't start for Portugal. Very inconsistent in the Italian league. Liao absolutely terrifies me. He is not a player that makes me think he will do well at Manchester United.

18:05Absolutely not. And let me just get rid of this idiot. So, yeah, he could come into United and be a superstar. But again, I think I'm right in saying that, I mean, it would almost be weird to go for Liao because I'm pretty sure he's 27 this summer as well. So it'd be another 27-year-old from the Italian league that's slower than the Bundesliga, La Liga and the Premier League, who's never played in the Premier League, who's 27. It would be really, really strange to go for him. But look, apparently we're looking at it. I mean, look, to be honest with you, I don't know what I'm more concerned about, signing Edison or Romano's update that we're on a mission in Italy.

18:51I mean, I think that one, And unless somebody's excited or can tell me what that's all about, Fabrizio Romano is one of the top tier transfer journalists in the world. And he says that Man United are in Italy on a transfer mission. It's the wrong country.

19:12I've grown up with Italian football. I know a lot of Italians and they would be saying, why are you here? I mean, Italy is in a footballing crisis. They love football over there. They can't qualify for the World Cup. They're not doing well in Europe. They are in a footballing crisis and Man United are out there on a mission trying to sign players. The only word I can think of is cheap. Yeah. Julian says United are in Italy for exits. No, it didn't say that, Julian. I mean, look, you might want to start your own YouTube channel up and tell lies. He didn't say that. What he said is that Man United are on a mission in Italy for exits and incomings.

19:56Didn't just say exits. You should go and work for the sun. um yulmland 40 million still a 40 million and fernandez 60 million vir says completely agree wilcox seems inept the fans under eight understand the ground reality of the team and have the ambition to compete this reminds me of the summers under tenhagen marino look let's move on but in relation to edison i think some people just get excited about signings and it's only may so let them be excited some players come in with red flags throw them on the floor and become fantastic look at anda herrera um some people are flops the point is it feels like this deal could happen very very quickly i just think that there are a lot of concerns around this deal and ultimately it doesn't make a lot of sense to sign a 27 year old for 40 million pounds with one year left on his contract is expensive um he's never played in the premier league he can't get in the brazilian squad and we've been scouting him three years and suddenly now he's a solution for man united's midfield and but most important of all it's got nothing to do with edison i'd say the same if we went for somebody like belaba or um uh you know a jao gomez michael carrick if people don't realize this, Michael Carrick is a learner driver in the most pressurized job in the world.

21:22You know, if you think about it, this is like getting a trainee Ryanair pilot to fly Air Force One. You know, this is, and I'm not taking the piss out of Ryanair or being a trainee pilot, I don't think there's many of you watching, but a trainee pilot for Ryanair now has to fly Air Force One with the President of America and everybody else in the back. That's what Carrick's doing. Yeah? The team around him, do you need a load of trainees or do you get experts? Michael Carrick needs experts around him. He might be the next Pep Guardiola. But if you give him a load of trainees and he's a trainee, it's not going to work.

22:04So overarchingly here, it's not about Edison. It's not about Belaber. It's not about any other player that I don't want us to sign. It's about if you're going to give the job to Michael Carrick, which is Wilcox's risk, you better go and buy him top quality players that can help him out. Don't go and buy him players that he needs to teach while he's learning the job himself. And that to me is the problem. We don't need a team of rookies. You know, exactly. Mike, make you smile. After the Atalanta games last night, Palladino said in a post-match interview that Edison didn't play because in advance talks with a top European club, but I think that's his.

22:40The big question is, Edison better than Jim Thwaites? I kind of feel like we're buying him for the sake of it, says Dave.

22:48It's, it just feels like, it feels like a cheap deal to fill a number, you know? That's what it feels like. There doesn't seem to be any thought out, I can't find anything about this Edison deal that makes me go, that's been thought out well. It feels like we need three midfielders. We've looked at him for years. No one else wants him. He's really cheap and it gets us a deal done quickly. It feels a bit desperate, if I'm being honest. But look, if we sign him, I'll back him. I think he's an interesting profile of player. But also, if he was 22, I'd be a lot happier about this deal. If he was 22 with the potential to get better and get in the Brazil squad and be here for years, I'd be much happier about this deal.

23:37He's 27. You can't call a 27-year-old potential. I must be going death marks as Alicia. Did you say something half positive about Balaba? Have a great day. You too. Well, I don't actually know who's better, Balaba or Edison. Should we run a poll? I don't know because, look, I don't rate Balaba that much, but I don't know that Balaba, you know, I don't think he's shit. I just don't think he's the right player for Man United. what about now this one's a good point Kasper this was the only player I could think that Man United might be in Italy for from Italy at least go for Manu Kone or Locatelli we were in talks with Manu Kone last summer of Roma we got quite close to Manu Kone last summer from Roma he is a very different profile of player to Edison very interesting I have not heard anything about him since last October so So, you know, maybe we could be resurrecting that.

24:37Clearly, we haven't heard of quality, not quantity. We are just putting bums on seats, says Michael. Spreading a budget thin, disaster incoming, says Royal. Personally, I like Manu Kone, says Andrew, and Yildiz, but I agree, looking in Italy is such an awful idea. We have Champions League football, says I got one TV. We need proven superstars, not squad players. City paid£35 million for Turkey. We are screwed.

25:04Well, Marlowe, you know what? I hope you're right about that because I've got no idea what City paid for Cherki. But if City paid£35 million for Cherki, and we're going to pay more than that for Edison, and Cherki's in his early 20s, I mean, it just shows you what a shit. This is what I mean. £40 million is cheap. It is. But it depends what you're paying for. £40 million for Tonali is bargain of the century. £40 million for a 27-year-old who's never played in the Premier League and has one year left on his contract at Atalanta. He's expensive. You know, it is. On, let it be Bastoni, says Phil.

25:46And I'd rather keep Anderson and Chiumini and keep Collier or Gamble on the youth than Edison signings, says Jack. And Ian Chapman has gifted five memberships. You're a legend, sir. Thank you very much. Okay, let's move on to a couple of other things I want to talk about as well this morning because obviously we'll have to wait and see on that one. Just wanted to bring this in because I forgot about it last night and it is midfield relevant. Laurie Whitwell, Athletic, said that on Man United's other midfield targets, Alex Scott at Bournemouth is a name I've heard more recently and his contract expires in two years.

26:18Fernandes at West Ham hasn't got a release clause. West Ham wants an upgrade on the price they paid, which was about 38 million. And there's a 15 % sell on to Southampton. So that's part of the factor West Ham would need to sell. So look, you know what? almost a nice little segue away from the edison story you've got alex scott and fernandez who are playing very very well in the premier league at the moment who are probably four or five years younger than edison who are going to be around the same sort of price and that's what i mean like you know alex scott with two years on his contract at bournemouth 50 million top top um matthias Matias Fernandes at West Ham, 50 million, tops, maybe 60.

27:02You're going to pay 40 for Edison at 27 with no Premier League experience. You've got Scott and Fernandes who are younger for about another 10, 15 million. I mean, it's just, that's the problem with it for me. Edison could be an absolutely brilliant signing, but there's so many better options. It's a strange one. It's a strange old issue, doesn't it? I think that whilst Manchester United have got Jason Wilcox in charge of our recruitment, I don't know that we're going to go anywhere. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't know that we are going to go anywhere. It is concerning. Elliot Anderson. A few people talking about Elliot Anderson this morning.

27:46Look, the general feeling is I still hope that we can get that deal done. I think I'm the only person in the world who thinks that Elliot Anderson could sign for Man United and I'm not going to change my mind until he's holding up a Man City shirt but what I would say about Elliot Anderson and I have to acknowledge is that it's very very clear to me that that Man City are winning the race uh you cannot ignore you cannot ignore it you know Manchester United are definitely not winning that race what I would say is and I'll leave it here and you can give your thought is if Man City are winning the race for Elliot Anderson, can somebody just tell me why they're winning the race for Elliot Anderson?

28:31That's all I want to know. Why are they winning the race for Elliot Anderson? Because we're shit, because we've got crap negotiators, because we're cheap, because we won't spend what's required. I agree with Tom McBride. We can definitely get Anderson. And this is the drum I'm going to bang. And I think a lot of people want to bang it with me. Man City are winning the race. Fine. Why are they winning the race? Because they've got Pep Guardiola? No, you haven't. Because you've won the league? No, you haven't. Because you've got a better chance of winning the league next year than us? Debatable.

29:04Debatable. Now more than ever, that's more of a conversation. Because Pep's gone and Arsenal have just won the league and we could spend well. Because you've got Champions League football, so do we. Because your future's brighter than ours? Not necessarily. Pep's gone. There's a court case. so everything that makes people think oh Man City are better than Man United you could almost argue well no, no, no, no no, the only reason I think Man City are winning the race is the wages and the transfer fee well that's not acceptable and I'm not going to accept that, I'm not going to sit here and say that's fine, I don't think it's fine at all what's happening to Favell's German connection says Marlow, Ian Chapman welcome to Members Club, thank you very much look been very fortunate on that's football to have the bundesliga highlights and and matches this season and i've watched the bundesliga a lot this year and i can tell you a few players that united should go for but what i will say is is that when we got the bundesliga tv rights uh one of the things that was said to me is there's more goals in the bundesliga and it's the closest league in the world to the premier league for intensity and speed it's actually quicker than the premier league now because we have slowed down in the premier league in relation to uh long throw in stop start so bundesliga if you watch a bundesliga game it's actually quicker because they don't piss around with long throw-ins and lying on the floor it's quick quick quick quick quick so the bundesliga and probably la liga are the two leagues closest to the premier league in intensity.

30:38Serie A is not. It's been slow for years. It's a slow league. So if we're looking at players, we should be looking in the Bundesliga. The interesting thing about the Bundesliga as well is that Favell's got a really good background in the Bundesliga. And the other interesting thing about the Bundesliga is it's as cheap as the Italian league. You know, it's not really that expensive. There'll be one or two players that you end up paying silly money for like Virts and maybe Diamonde. But there's a lot of talent in that Bundesliga that you can get out of there. and like Almala might be going to Brighton.

31:09I think we should be looking at him from Cologne. Noosa, Leipzig, I think we should be looking at him on the left wing. I think he's perfect for what we need. We're not even bloody linked to him. What are we going to do about the left wing, by the way? So Stille is a player we've mentioned for a long time. There are good players that we can get there. But again, I don't know why we're not looking there at the moment and why we're on a mission in Italy. Angling for more says, let's get Archie Gray when Spurs go down tomorrow. Let's get Voscovic. Solid Blake, thanks for being a member for so long.

31:40You're a legend. Noosa from Leipzig. Leipzig is our left wing, in my opinion. Phil Bill, get on it. It's his captain. Well, as I said last night, it looks like Diamande is going to Liverpool. Liverpool are in advance talks with him already, according to David Ornstein. So, you know, I don't think they're going to sell both their wingers, really. Mark says, I think we should get to Nali, Fernandes and Rodgers. and keep hearing Fernandes is playing well. They are getting relegated. Stay clear. I've watched plenty of West Ham this season. He's very wasteful, says Tyrone. Yeah, remember we did buy Roy Keane when they got relegated.

32:15So, you know, it doesn't, just because they're getting relegated doesn't mean we shouldn't go with them. Keep hearing that, says Tyrone. Salah says, what if Wilcox told Balaber to play his best against United so the fans would want him and make him the number one target in the midfield? Let's hope Man United fans aren't that stupid, to be honest with you. And what actually worries me is Anderson signs for City. Tonali for£80 million goes to Arsenal. You're telling me Tonali for£80 million, other big clubs are not looking at him. Chiumini stays. We end up with Baleba, Fernandes and Edison. Arsene, I think that's something I mentioned last night.

32:47And it's something that we should be concerned about because Anderson could sign for City. Tonali could go to another club and Chiumini could stay at Real Madrid. And then it's over. there is you know we're quite lucky that there's three players that we could go for to replace casemiro if we don't get any of them you know i don't know what to say michael carrick could still be successful but it's not a successful um recruitment drive is it why do you want anderson when he prefers city says dial um well we don't know that he prefers city do we we know the city are winning the race um but i suspect they're winning the race because they're willing to pay what Forrest wants.

33:27I don't think Anderson has come out and said he wants to go to City. Race for Anderson is over. We're being strung along by his agent to get another million in sign-on fee. All we've heard lately is United distancing themselves, says Gold Fridge. Thank you very much for that. And the board lying to themselves, convinced that the Labour and Carrick are better than any other options. Bland chicken needs a lot more seasoning, says Spooky. Thank you very much for that. And done that one as well. There was another thing I just wanted to come back to here

33:58yes Morgan Rogers it's interesting actually because David Ornstein is basically saying that Liverpool are looking at 85 million for Diamande and United don't want to pay that much Fabrizio Romano literally said United do not want to pay that much for Diamande and again you've got to question that you have to question that and thankfully we have communities like this where we can because like you, I remember things. You know, I remember that we were chasing Edison three years ago, apparently. You know, I remember at Christmas, we went for Semenyu, we lost to Man City and we instantly briefed that we wanted Diamande at Leipzig.

34:40Here we are with the chance to go and get Diamande at Leipzig and we're saying we don't want to spend£85 million on him. Well, I'm sorry, he was always going to be£80 million. Always. He paid£67 for Sesco. they were always going to want 80 for Diamande but you don't want to pay it so why do you brief that you want players when you know you won't pay for them because you're playing the fans aren't you this is what you do you put it out there that you want good players knowing full fucking well that you won't pay it same with Anderson all season we want Anderson his number one priority how many journalists have you seen write articles about Elliot Anderson being our number one priority over the last nine months, because it will be loads.

35:25But when it comes down to it, the reality is we don't want to pay. And the same thing happened with Diamande. Some men use disappointing, but we want Diamande. And then when it comes down to it, well, we don't want to pay for him. And this is a tactic that we use. And you know why they do it? Because they want to excite you and get you to buy kits and get you to buy season tickets. They lie, knowing full well they are not willing to pay the price to get these players in through the door and it's a concern because it's going to keep happening because it happens all the time and the amount of arguments that happen during the season about ellie anderson in this fan base because some people believe we're going to go for him and then you know they've been lied to um aston villa are prepared to sell morgan rogers this came in from ben jacobs those close to the player understand that no one is going to stand in his way for a move so morgan rogers on the move this summer The price will be around 80 million with Arsenal, Man United, Chelsea and PSG in the race.

36:24I think this is viable. I think this is realistic. And I think with this, it's another conversation point because they are. Villa are clearly ready to cash in on Morgan Rodgers and Manchester United are clearly going to look at him because it's a statement signing it's a shirt seller and Michael Carrick really likes him so I think that this is certainly one to keep an eye on my only issue with this again and I'm a big fan of Morgan Rodgers and I you know I think he's had a very good season and I I think he's going to have a big World Cup as well. I think he's an important player for England. Very, very good player.

37:12But, you know, in the World Cup, if like, I don't know, I'm trying to think of a player. You know, in the World Cup, I don't know whether there is a player at Man United.

37:28I can't. We're not good enough for me to say this. But basically what I'm saying is, imagine we had Nuno Mendes at left back, right? And in the World Cup, there's a Brazilian left back who's really good and he wants to come to Man United and Man United want him. But we've still got the problems with midfield and maybe centre back. Why would you buy somebody when you've already got somebody in their position who's doing a good job? So Morgan Rodgers, every time I like Morgan Rodgers, it's because he plays centrally off the striker, centrally. you buy Morgan Rodgers it's the same as Kagawa it's the same as Kunya it's the same as Mata it's the same as there are more there's definitely more I'm trying to think number 10s that we didn't play at number 10 basically with Mkhitaryan you buy Morgan Rodgers for 80 million pounds and you don't play him as a number 10 you've just wasted 40-50 million pounds you've just bought somebody to put on the wing who's not a winger he could do a job on the wing but it's not it's not really where he wants to play so what are we saying to Morgan Rodgers come to Man United play on the wing for a year or two until Bruno decides to go and then you can play at number 10 so basically come to Man United stunt your career for a couple of years on in the hope that Bruno will actually leave so yeah I can see us spending 80 million pounds on Morgan Rodgers and I think he's a fantastic player I just don't understand it it's Mason Mount all over again.

39:01Why are we buying a number 10 to put them on the bench or play them out of position? Again, it just feels like a... It doesn't feel like a signing that's intelligent. It feels like, ooh, we've signed Morgan Rodgers. And I don't get it. And I like that player as well. I like Edison. I just think it's a risk. I like Morgan Rodgers. I think it's a bad fit. I don't want Blaber or Edison. I would rather have Sanderberg or Hinshelwood, says bail will justice and the board lines themselves convinced that belabor and karik are better than any other options i've done that one from spooky okay we're whizzing through the stuff this morning uh chumini a lot of people are asking about this so basically this came in from a sky sports news man united reporter daniel khan basically saying that if he becomes available would man united explore it of course they would do i think they're actively pursuing him right now No, I do think it's a new contract type of story and it's quite easy to link yourself to United and to work your position at Real Madrid a bit better.

40:03So I thought it was quite an interesting take because, I mean, look, it's Sky Sports News. It's a reporter. It could be an opinion piece. It didn't sound like it was particularly, you know, sourced from the player or Real Madrid or Man United. But Chumini has gone a little bit quiet. And you know what? It got me thinking about Chumini. a lot of us really, really, really think it's essential that we get Anderson, Tonali or Chiamini, right? Tonali's gone very, very quiet and United don't want to pay the price and there's been lots of talk about the gambling. Edison, favourite to go to Man City. Chiamini, what have we really heard?

40:41What have we really heard about him in the last two weeks? Nothing. There was a bit of hype about him about three weeks ago but essentially that hype has always been Real Madrid might want to buy two midfielders this summer and if they do that they might be willing to let him go he doesn't want to go he wants to stay in Madrid if he does go Man United might be interested I mean it's not like we're in Italy very close to signing Edison is it it's like if Real Madrid decide they want to sell him Man United would be interested well he's getting on a plane to go to the States for six weeks in two weeks.

41:23Like, I don't people... Two weeks on Thursday, the World Cup starts. So, Ciamini for me is just... My update is... Would be a very interesting signing to buy the replacement for Casemiro who replaced him at Real Madrid. But he's flying out to the World Cup in two weeks. and he won't be back until the end of July and there's nothing going on. And we like to do a deal over six weeks. So I feel like maybe it can happen, but it's nowhere near happening, is it? And I think as well, where I would just move on from the midfield because I want to talk about some other things is that where we are at the moment, I feel like we're almost, and I'm trying to think of an analogy here, we're almost like, remember that show Supermarket Sweep?

42:31You might not remember it. Basically, you had a supermarket trolley and you had two minutes to run around a supermarket and get as much as you can into your trolley. And then at the end, you take it to the checkout and three teams are doing it and the one with the most value in their supermarket trolley win. Yeah? And I feel like United are doing that at the moment. They're running around Tesco and they're chucking stuff in but they don't know whether it's what they really want and they don't really know whether they can afford it and whether it's going to be enough. and I feel like there's not a definitive plan.

43:17I could have left that analogy out of it. I feel like there's not a definitive plan. I don't feel like, I feel like Man City, even Liverpool, you know, Liverpool had a bad summer last summer but they went and got what they wanted really, didn't they? Apart from Gehi on the final day. Man City, they go and get what they want. Arsenal go and get what they want. I don't feel like we've got a defined plan. I don't feel like there is a plan I don't feel like we've gone Tenali Stilla Alex Scott or Anderson Garner and Gio Gomez I mean whatever the three is I don't feel like we've got it in our head because my three is going to be different to your three and it's going to be different to their three I feel like United have gone let's just chuck the net out into the ocean and see what we catch.

44:09Let's just throw a massive net into the sea, pull in and see what we've got because we might catch an Anderson, but if we don't catch an Anderson, we'll get an Edison. It's nearly the same anyway. It's only a few letters. Edison, Anderson, you know, take the E out and put an an in front of it. Basically the same thing. In fact, the fans might actually thank Because if you put Anderson on the back of your shirt, that's actually an extra letter. There's more value in this. Edison is one letter less. So look, I feel like we are just, I don't feel like we've got a plan. and that from what I've been told for many years and from what I've been told from people who work at the club that's basically Man United I mean Miss Michael Carrick contracts taking a week is a joke but that's the way Man United work um I don't really want to say this because I think it it causes a lot of people a lot of frustration but we are shit at negotiating like it's it's a fact like we are shit at negotiating it's not like i still think there are people in our fan base that are still waiting for united to be good at it we're shit at it because we're shit at it like we're really bad like we're really really bad and i think i gave up on this a long time ago but i think some people think that we're sat in that boardroom with a definitive plan of we'll do if we don't get Anderson we'll sweep on Tonali and if we don't get him we've got Chiamini I don't think that's going on at all I think they're sat there going well we can't pay for Anderson and Tonali anyway so let you know let the fans think it's going to happen but it's not Chiamini is probably going to stay at Real Madrid so let's just leave that one what can we do with what's left out there and and I think that's what's going on I don't I I don't think we have a defined plan of what we want.

46:10Look, hopefully in the chaos, we'll land on three good players. But it won't be by design. It'll be by accident. I just don't get the feeling that we have a defined midfield three that we want. I don't even feel like we've got option one, two and three. I feel like it's just a bit chaotic, to be honest with you. I don't think. And the scary thing is it's got nothing to do with Michael Carrick. We knew 12 months ago that we needed to rebuild our midfield. So remember, as we walk into this transfer window, this is 12 months in the making. It's not like Liverpool with Eketike and Izak. You know, Eketike is out till Christmas.

46:52They've got to go and find an attacker. And it's only happened to them in the last two months. We've had 12 months to prepare for this midfield rebuild. Do you feel like United are coming into this summer with 12 months preparation and they know what they're doing? And that's my point. I don't feel with 12 months preparation that they've got a bloody clue what they're doing in this summer. I don't I don't hope I'm wrong. Which players are fans defending too much this season? Says Salah.

47:25look my feeling is that

47:33look I wouldn't have given Harry Maguire a new contract I wouldn't have Luke Shaw at the club next year I think Deleuze isn't good enough Mason Mount is on way too much money so there's four players there that I would be looking to move on you know you look at this season Casemiro's gone now World Cup year he's gone final year of his contract he's gone Luke Shaw's played every single game in a World Cup year but for the last three years he hasn't managed it what's going to happen next year

48:06Deleuze hasn't had a great season you know what I don't know whether I agree with this but I saw somebody saying yesterday that you know when the trouble with some United players is when things are going well it's all Instagram it's all it's all it's all it's all good when things are going bad the leaks start and they were basically sort of linked two and two plus two two plus two is five basically they were saying look Harry Maguire really happy he's doing interviews with Ian Wright and everybody else and he's back in the England setup and he's back in the Man United team and he's got the contract right he gets left out of the England World Cup squad Thomas Tuchel has a private chat with him but he still does a big statement before the squad's out self-serving is that is that a glimpse of what the united fan base united dressing room is like i'm not saying harry maguire is a problem but somebody close to harry maguire should have said hold on a minute harry you know the squad's not even out and you're doing statements about being gutted and it's a disgrace and this that and the other everyone knows you're disappointed and everyone knows it is disappointing and i agree it's disappointing but you can flip it around and go it's also really self-serving and petulant to put a statement out before the england squad's even out and i suppose you know this is something that we've been saying about the united fan base for the united dressing room for a long time it is quite a self-serving dressing room there are a lot of leaks there is a lot of inconsistency When things are going well, we can go on great runs.

49:41When things are going bad, things go bad very, very quickly. So look, I'm still of the opinion that we've never done what Ralph Ranić said, open heart surgery. For me, removing Harry Maguire and letting him go and saying thank you very much was an opportunity this summer to remove a player on a very high wage who's been a good servant to the club and say thank you very much, off you go. Much the same as Pep does with people like Kyle Walker. Thank you very much, off you go. You know, there are numerous people we could do that with and we don't do it. We're still not doing it. So on the one hand, we're talking about recruitment and the same mistakes as the past, wandering into a transfer window that we've been preparing for for 12 months and we don't seem to know what we're doing.

50:28And on the other hand, we're retaining players that I think, you know, if open heart surgery is required, that's not what you do. If we can buy, if we can't buy any, sorry, Sanska says, if we can't buy any of Tonali, Anderson or Ciumini, would you still buy three or two decent players and defer a marquee midfielder to next season? I'm not deferring anything, Sanska. Like I said, we've had 12 months to prepare for this summer transfer window, knowing that the midfield needed rebuilding, knowing that Casemiro was leaving. If we can't buy three decent midfielders this summer, then what are we doing?

51:00There is no defer. There is no backup. 12 months they've been waiting for this. I'm waiting to see what the plan is. We're delusional for getting sucked in every summer. Club has no desire to win. Edison will be done first, and Wilcox and co. will be sitting there today, hoping Borough lose, so Hackney will be cheaper on our last midfield signing oh my god I mean if Edison and Hackney are two of our three fucking hell yeah which players thank you very much to Salah for that Goldfridge says if we splash 80 million on Rodgers it's fear of missing out not necessary which is the opposite of what a well-run club does we already sue Horn Kunya into the team yeah I mean I agree I don't see why you buy Morgan Rodgers when you've got Kunya playing out of position already did you know that the technical director of atalanta is john murta we can also sign edison on a free next year instead of paying 42 million says mean mustard and patrick lynch says feels like we are doing a lot of monitoring and inquiring delaying really so we can use the world cup as an excuse for not getting deals done quickly thank you patrick nice shirt today says cola cherry it's a hot day today so i've gone for a t-shirt um d mag says when are we going to call this ownership out no new stadium no best of the best broken promises and inflated ticket prices i you know i wouldn't i don't know whether i'd call this ownership out uh pal i think they need to be applauded at the end of the day how they've done such a shit job in the last two years when we could have had qatar and people aren't protesting and moaning about it is uh it's incredible really how bad a job they've done and no one gives a shit i don't want belabor or edison I'd rather get done that one.

52:38Thank you very much. And not sure if you've said, Mark, see Maresco wants Enzo. Yeah, I'm going to do a video on that. It's football, actually. It's going out in about half an hour. They said big signing before the World Cup. Is Edison it, says Marlowe. Look, that's our story. That's my story from our source. And that's what we did last week. I was told that United will make a big signing before the World Cup. Define big signing. You know, I mean, I'm hoping it's Edison, uh anderson um you know i'm hoping you know it's tonali um but you know united could class edison as a big signing let's get real they could um out of pocket question but who is your barber says salah um well i can't tell you that can i i can't tell you that i was i was gonna tell you but I can't tell you that.

53:35Right, okay, let's move on. Thank you for everybody who's tuning in this morning. We've done that about that. This was quite funny. James Rodriguez revealed that he nearly joined Man United in 2017. He said, nobody knows this, but I was going to go to United. George Mendes says, do you want to go to Bayern? And I say, Bayern, there's no place for me. Why would I go there when they've got Ribery and Robben? He tells me Ancelotti asked for me and Ancelotti calls me and says, look, I think I said I'm going to Man United. He says, please, Manchester, United is dead. You have to come here with me. So basically, James Rodriguez, whether we should have signed James Rodriguez or not is irrelevant.

54:14I think the story actually is. Ancelotti got on the phone to him and said, don't go to United. They're dead. I mean, cheers. Cheers, Ancelotti. I mean, the question is, is he right or is he wrong? Gene says he wasn't wrong. Mbuermo on the most underrated player in the dressing room Xerxi the way he can link with other players he's such a strong guy really hard to take the ball off good finishing power shots and really good with his feet so I was impressed yeah Brian

54:47mate what are you talking about like where is he doing this on the training ground on FIFA like yeah I mean, underrated, Xerxes, I don't know how that works. Surely you have to be on the pitch. Look, I think in relation to underrated,

55:16the cold harsh reality is that the most underrated player at Manchester United this season, we can all have them. But I think it's got to be Le Mans. Michael Carrick probably wouldn't have this job without him.

55:43I think a goalkeeper is a little bit like a referee at times. You know, if you're not talking about them, they're doing a good job. And obviously, a goalkeeper, the amount of one-on-one saves, the amount of goals he's saved in the last two months, by the way. I mean, I can think of six, six chances that should have been scored against us and they just get brushed over. Even in the game last week against Forest, like there's been multiple saves that Le Mans has made in the last two months that should have been goals. And we've become used to it. On top of that, the amount of corners that come in that he just grabs hold of or the amount of crosses that come in that he'll either catch or punch away.

56:24He just does the basics really well and then he makes big saves. We haven't had that since De Gea. Under Inanna, we would have probably conceded anywhere between 10 and 20 points would be taken off what we've got. If Inanna had been in goal this season, and I'm being generous saying 10, but somewhere between 10 and 20 points would be off our league total. And if you look at the league table, let me just have a quick look. So if you take 10 points off Manchester United right now, we are still just in fifth. But you take 15 points off Man United right now and we're barely in Europe. So, look, I think I'm being generous saying 10.

57:15but um you know it's uh you know i think lemans this season has been absolutely incredible absolutely incredible uh bit of breaking news that bruno fernandez is player of the year i haven't seen it anywhere but i'm oh no i've got it now uh bruno fernandez there he is let's have a look uh bruno fernandez has been named as the premier league player of the season um is that the same as players player of the year i get confused about these you're gonna have to tell me in the chat like when i was a kid players player of the year was the was the big award is that players player of the year or is that premier league player of the year because we've had football writers player of the year which was bruno we've now got premier league player of the year is that is that is that the players player of the year because that's the one that pfa players of the year is that something different or is that the same because players player is something different not the same i think he will that that's the one i want him to win when that's the one that when i was growing up ryan gigs manja vidic players player is the one that you want to get because it's voted for by the players um that's the one i'm waiting for on bruno and i think he i think he will get that one at home it's not been announced yet it's we've had football writers which is the journalists we've had premier league player of the year which has just been announced now and then pfa is the biggest one as tiktok short says but i don't think that's come out yet there's too many of them isn't there i think he will win pfa um player of the year but look i said it in january there's a vindication for those of us i said in january that bruno should win player of the year it was a clip that was quite controversial um which i didn't think was going to be controversial um because we weren't in the top we weren't in a title race but this for me is exactly why bruno fernandez should be winning player of the year because it's the player who's had the biggest impact on his team how's you know what talking about le mans there underrated but to be fair hot take player of the year as well you know obviously i don't think he can move bruno but I think he's done really, really well.

59:35I'm getting married today, Mark. Any speech tips?

59:42I could... Yeah, I'd need to know the crowd. Depends what the makeup of the crowd is. I mean, do they get banter or not? You know, it depends where you pitch it, really. I was like a bit of jokes. Ment if Enzo moves, maybe it helps us with Anderson. Oh, no, I think Man City will get Anderson. and Anderson and Anzo. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think Wilcox gets sacked if Carrick does bad? No. Salah says to bring in three midfielders, but you have to get rid of Mbermo and Ahmad. Would you do it? No. Why are Prats coming in here doing hypotheticals, right? We're not selling Ahmad and Mbermo to buy three midfielders.

1:00:26And we're not only buying two midfielders, hypothetically. We need three fucking midfielders. 12 months they've been working on this midfield rebuild we're not selling players to bring them in we're not only getting two we need three we're buying fucking three uh i want it to be like chelsea and not buy players over 26 edison is going to be 27 so basically we'll buy older players if they're cheap says it all uh says ross mccray magician uh thank you very much okay um thank you everyone for tuning in uh we i mean slow sports news in the chat we've been going We've been live for an hour and there's people coming in the chat saying, Ederson and Man United verbal agreement.

1:01:03I'm sure some of you wake up, come in late and think you've got the breaking news. We are live at eight o 'clock tonight. Ederson is not done. Tune into the show on time. Have a coffee. What's the plan for today? I'm just going to do a video on That's Football, a little bit about Chelsea and Man City's midfield and Liverpool. And then there's an eight o 'clock show tonight. but I get the feeling we might be doing a video before then because Saturday, for some reason, does become quite a busy day in the transfer window. So I might see you before then. Bruno wants it. Now let's build our team with the right players to compete next season, says Ashish.

1:01:41We're so Bruno attached that it's hurting us and we can't move on or don't know how to move on. Thank you very much, Salah. Take care, everyone. Stay safe. Have a great day.