418: Anderson TRANSFER Boost! Ugarte STAYS? Ederson Close!

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0:46Save big money now at Menards. Plus, don't forget to check out our weekly flyer on Menards.com for all the great deals happening now. Big money at Bernard. Hello, Lee. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news. And it's another jam-packed show. If you don't like jam, it's a packed show. We've got Anderson price cuts. We've got Agate staying. We've got the latest on Edison. We've got the latest on Fernandes. We've also got things on Xerxes staying. I'm going to run out of things here. Backlash against Bruno, Italian job. Yeah, loads to get into.

1:28And I've got to say, I know the season only just ended on Sunday, but I'm just really enjoying this. You know, you sort of forget it when the season's running, just how different the transfer market is, the summer transfer market. And absolutely loving it. So thanks to everyone who's getting involved. Lots to get into on the show today. We're going to start off around a few updates that have come in. One from the mail, one from iPaper, a little bit from Romano as well. But I want to start off with Elliot Anderson, because although it wasn't directly attributable to Manchester United, because Man City has still the front runners to sign Elliot Anderson, I sound like a petulant child, but I still don't get it.

2:05I don't get it. It's like waking up on Christmas Day expecting a PS5 and you get a pair of socks. I'm not just going to sit there and take it. I'm going to go, what's going on? What's going on? You've been hinting for nine months about PS5. You've been talking about Grand Theft Auto. You've been talking about FC 26. I can't do that on a pair of socks, can I? What, what, what, what? Why do you keep saying it's in the game and all that sort of stuff? What, what, what? They're not even football socks. They're just socks. What's going on? And then you've got all your family around you saying, just be grateful for what you got.

2:35Piss off. Piss off. I'll be grateful for these socks if someone was telling me, oh, they'll keep my feet warm for the last nine months. I've been told I've been getting hints about computer games, little looks when there's an advert for a PS5 on the telly. I wake up on Christmas morning, I've got a pair of bloody socks and I'm just going to sit here and take it. Shove your turkey up your ass. I'm not eating that rubbish. I'm not watching anything on the telly. I'm just going to go upstairs and put my new socks on and play with them. Oh, look at that on my feet. What a great day this is. Thanks, everyone.

3:08Yeah, that was a bad Christmas. A flashback. But no, seriously, I refuse to acknowledge that Man United should lose the race for Elliot Anderson. I really do. And in the mail today, it says United's ideal targets have been either Ciumini from Madrid, dream, or Elliot Anderson from Nottingham Forest. But the England man is still expected to join rivals Man City if a fee can be agreed. However, Nottingham Forest have been talking up a fee of 125 million for Anderson, but City see a deal closer to 90 million. This is where the price tag of Jesse Jay is going to be. Not Jesse Jay. The price tag. It's all about the price tag.

3:49That's why I said that. The price tag is going to be really key. If Man City get this deal done and it's 90 million, I'm going to lose my shit. Boy, I will. I will lose it. If Man City get Elliot Anderson for 90 million, I'm going to go mad because I just do not buy into this whole bollocks that United have fed out for nine months that this is our high priority target and then he goes for less than£100 million. And of course, there'll probably be bloody add-ons on there. I couldn't give a toss about add-ons. I mean, Edison is probably going to be£34 million and they won't mention add-ons. But when Elliot Anderson goes to Man City for£90 million in add-ons, they'll go, yeah, but it's£140 million really with add-ons.

4:30It's funny how add-ons mean nothing when it's for somebody like Edison. Oh, it's 34 million. Ignore the add-ons. But when it's Elliot Anderson, it'll be, well, it's not really 90 million. It's 120 when you do the add-ons on. So look, ultimately, when it comes to add-ons, the intelligence of add-ons is that you only pay them if the player does well. Look, we probably paid about 54 million pounds for Agate, but there's probably another 16 in add-ons. We're never going to play them, are we? We're never going to pay them unless we said if he sits on his arse and does nothing for two years, we'll give you another 10 million, which is very unlikely that even United would put that on their add-ons.

5:10Or if he runs around chewing gum every time he puts a Man United shirt on, we'll give you another 5 million after a year of him doing it. I mean, that's the only way Agate is hitting achievable add-ons, isn't it? Chewing gum every time he plays football or sitting on his arse for two years. So look, add-ons are irrelevant if a player flops. but you know maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe Elliot Anderson does go for 90 million plus add-ons but the fee's 90 million it's 90 million because hello if the add-ons are you know if you win the Premier League you give us another 10 million I'll give you 20 you can shove that into the River Trent I'll tell you what just just just to tell you how much I really don't care about your add-ons if it's 10 million pounds for winning the Premier League, I'll give you 20.

5:59Kiss it. I just don't. So, you know, these add-ons are achievable. So, look, keep your eye on Elliot Anderson because all this talk of United not wanting to overpay, I don't think it will come down to that. I don't. I really don't. I think the fee that Man City pay will be a good fee and Man United will look absolutely stupid because we wasted nine months telling the world we wanted a player then we pull out at the end because it's overpaying and then he goes to Man City for a reasonable price. Connor, it's not a pre-record, you idiot. How can it be a pre-record when I've already interacted with people?

6:33Moron. Moron. I think we might have some people come in here from other streams that aren't doing it today. The owners have all the fans by the balls, says Abda. Thank you very much. Do you watch end of season United Stand Awards? Rajaf, remind me about that because I know what their awards were now and I will react to that. I was meant to do that last night. And Patrick Lynch, always the voice of reason, says off topic a bit, but just a word of warning, everyone about free transfer targets. These are not as cheap as people think. They usually include huge agent fees and wages. Nothing is ever truly free.

7:05Well, he is the voice of reason there, because that goes beyond football. You know what? You're right. People say Vlahovic is free, right? Why doesn't anyone else want Vlahovic? Guarantee his wage is probably going to be 300 grand a week. His agent probably wants 25. He probably wants another 10, 15 in add-on fees. before you know it, you're paying 50 million pounds through the back door and you're paying, you know, a million pounds a month in wages. So suddenly that 50 million could have been spent on, you know, Ivan Tony probably works out cheaper.

7:39Connor says, sorry, Mark, my phone skipped to the start without me doing it. I love being called a moron though. Sorry, Connor. I'm in that sort of mood this morning. It's that sock story. Kai says, Barca apparently going all in for Gordon. What do you think this means for Rashford?

7:57It's a kick in the arse. It's a kick in the arse of Rashford. Look, I think we'll find out about Rashford in the next week or two anyway. We have had some positive updates around that. So hopefully that will continue, certainly. What a season, says AFI, and what a year it's been. Thanks for all that you do, Mark, and the stand. Hoping for a strong 26-27 season. As I said, I'm comfortably into that transfer mode now. I really enjoy it. In a way, we don't have to watch counterattacking football and, you know, argue about whether Luke Shaw should start every game or, you know, Carrick should be the manager.

8:30We know that that's done now. I'm excited about next season, but I'm very excited about these next few weeks and I'm all in on it. Now, what's this Agate story, Mark? Well, we've got probably six or seven stories to get through this morning. So I'm not going to do them in any particular order because there is an Edison update. There is a Fernandes update. There's also stuff around who the marquee signing could be, Joshua Xerxe as well. But Samuel Lukas, who now works for the Sun, I mean, you know, anyway, he is saying that Manchester United do not want to hawk Agate around as they accept he's a very hard sell.

9:10And there is a high possibility that he will remain at the club this summer. Now, look, I think that he also goes on to say Man United will sign a marquee midfielder this summer for around 100 million. Beyond that, United will recruit smartly with market conditions shaping further spending rather than fixed fee breakdowns. Look, in relation to the journalistic transfer states, I don't think there are many English journalists beyond David Ornstein that's actually very credible when it comes to transfers. There's a few tappings like Simon Stone and The Athletic. I think they can tap it in from a good assist in the sense that, you know, we'll know about a story and then they'll go, yeah, it's going to happen.

9:57There's very few British journalists that actually generate a transfer story. You know, I would say someone like Florian Plettenberg in Germany generates transfer stories more than anybody in the English press, apart from David Ornstein. so I'm not about to sit here and say that Samuel Lookhurst knows anything about transfers because I don't think his track record's that good I don't think there's many English journalists that do have a very good track record about it because when you're a client journalist you don't go out there getting your own stories so I don't agree with what people are saying because some people are being quite abusive about it and saying oh he knows nothing and then some people are saying oh this means we're only going to buy two midfielders because we're keeping Agate.

10:40I don't, you know, I could scaremonger. I could, I could say, oh my God, that's United telling Lucas that, you know, Agate is not going anywhere. So realistically, we're probably only going to buy two midfielders. And instead of getting people like Edison, Fernandez and Anderson, we could end up with Edison, Fernandez and Agate staying. Well, look, worst case scenario, that might be the case, but I don't see it like that at all. I think that sometimes you've got to look at this pragmatically. And maybe I'm very pragmatic when it comes to transfers because we've been doing this for so many years.

11:15I remember being in a London hotel room, running up the stairs, checking in to do a video on Lozano. We've done all sorts over the years and it's been a great journey on the beach, walking to work. You get to know, I've played the game and I think we've all played the game. I don't think Agate is staying at Manchester United. I think what's happening is we can't sell him and to be honest many of you've said this we can't sell a garte because we've only had a garte for two years and we paid 55 million pounds we need to clear over 30 just to break even on that deal you know what do they call it when you you know it's not i can't remember what it's called but it's when it's the value of the player every year depreciates divided by however many it is but we we would need to make somebody would need to give us 30 million i think it might be more for agate so we're not selling agate and we're not selling anana and i completely understand why people get overexcited about the transfer window and they start saying sell delo sell shore sell mount sell anana sell um agate there's 400 million and you just sort of like go you're not going to sell any of them.

12:32No one's going to give you money for them. Might get Monopoly money, but who plays that? So we're not selling Agathe. We have to loan him. And I think that's what this update's all about. We're not selling Agathe. We're going to have to loan him. It still won't stop us buying three midfielders unless, unless United are so unambitious that they will only by three midfielders if Agate gets sold. But that would be incredible because Amorim didn't pick Agate and Carrick didn't pick Agate. And Carrick would rather play Mason Mount in the midfield over Agate. So we've devalued Agate. And that's our own fault.

13:16If I was Jason Wilcox, I would have said to Carrick, can't you pick Agate against Brighton just to put him in the shot window enough? and we didn't do it. So we've devalued Agate. We've made him unsellable because we've not used him. There's probably a bloody good reason for that if we're being honest, but we won't sell Agate, so I think we'll loan him so we'll still buy three midfielders. That's my feeling on it, really. I can't see us keeping... I can't see Carrick keeping a player that he doesn't use because he will definitely have to use Agate next season. You know, if Agate was one of the four with Mainu, you'd have to use him so i just think that let's not get over reacting over over reacting to that agate staying and we're only going to sign two midfielders it makes absolutely no sense it makes no logical sense i think we're going to have to loan him we're probably going to loan him to turkey they'll cover his wages he'll lose a year of his deal and then next summer hopefully we can sell him for 25 million and just break even i think that's what'll happen maybe a bit of a maybe a of a Rasmus deal, you know, where you send him off on loan somewhere where he does quite well.

14:22They're really happy with him. And then you agree a transfer. But that's what I think will happen there. Moving on, just very, very quickly. No, we'll come back to that one in a minute. I want to talk about what's come in on Edison. So this came in from the mail as well. United had a delegation in Italy last week to conduct discussions, not only for Edison, but also other potential signings. They want a forward and competition at left back, but are juggling a couple of midfield targets. And much depends on the cost with prices escalating in a very competitive market. I'm a bit worried why we're in Italy.

15:01I'm really worried about it. I mean, I know a lot about Italian football. Talking about World Cups, Italia 90 was my first World Cup. And straight on the hot on the heels of that, we had a lot of players like Gaza going to Lazio, David Platt went to Barry and Channel 4 got Italian rights. Championship manager even put out a game called Championship Serie A manager, which did really, really well. Like the UK was gripped with Italian football fever for years. So I've always kept an eye on Italian football. And I'll tell you from the 90s to today, it's slow. It's always been slow. Italian football has got a massive problem with not qualifying for the World Cup and they keep talking about recruitment and development and youth policies your football is slow it's always been slow that's the problem with Italian football it's slow that's why people like Ashley Young can be finished in the Premier League and go and perform really well in that league so I think that it worries me a little bit that we're looking at players from Italy it's just not the league I'd be looking at and why are we looking there?

16:09I don't think Favell's got a great history of Italian recruitment. Wilcox hasn't got a history at all. I don't know what we're doing in Italy. I mean, there are some interesting players there. I think Manu Kone at Roma is an interesting midfielder, but Edison's a midfielder, so we're obviously not looking at Manu Kone. Left-backs from Italy, nothing jumps to mind. I mean, Di Marco is interesting, but he's also pretty old now. Strikers from Italy Well we mentioned Vlahovic And I think that would be very expensive So I don't really know I don't know maybe it's a price thing Maybe it's a price thing Maybe that's what it's all about Maybe it's about price Because it's an Italian league Maybe we can get better value for money from there But yeah I don't know What about Tonali being in Italy Look I like the idea of Tonali Well I love it I love it But United I can't get excited about Tonali I said this to you a month ago I can't get excited about Tonali Because United seem to have killed it In the sense that

17:25You know They're not They're not entertaining it I mean look I would love to sit here and say I bet it's to do with Tonali and I hope it is. But, you know, I guess we'll have to wait and see. However, however, Romano has just put up another update. I mean, look, I love Fabrizio. We used to have him on the show. You know, it's brilliant what he does. But I don't think even he would mind me saying this. Well, he might. This is his time to grow.

17:59And he'll go from one video a day to six. And he doesn't get six updates a day. So you will get the same story being told again and again and again. No changes in Man City's plan since March, even with Pep leaving and Maresco coming in. Elliot Anderson is the main target. No talks took place for Enzo Fernandez so far. City are ready to offer an important contract to Elliot Anderson. So look, we know that's going to happen. It's about what we do as a football club to counter that really. But on Edison, sticking with Italy on Edison, a couple of updates around Edison. Mail saying that Man United are closing in on Edison with talks ongoing over a£38.8 million deal.

18:45Edison is keen to become the first signing of the Michael Carrick era. lots of people are talking about 39 million and 38.8 million you know when you're getting stuff like that that's that's a little bit too granular that's a little bit too accurate that is that's like saying you know last night I had fish and chips and someone at work going yes and you had ketchup on it and you didn't put salt on it but you did put vinegar on it and you sort of like go okay what's going on here then what is going on here I've got a stalker and I'm not saying that the mail are stalking man united but there's a few people talking about 39 million and now 38.8 million and um you know in pounds i'm intrigued as to you know maybe that's 45 million euros but i thought we were paying 40 million euros and 34 million pounds so look there's a lot of stuff coming out about the price at the moment so you know maybe that's uh going to happen um Man United, look, the price is the price, isn't it?

19:54£40 million. I mean, look, I have nothing more to say about Edison. I think there are players that we might miss out on that are very good for us, such as Alex Scott. But United at the moment are closing in on Edison, and the expectation is that it could be done very, very quickly. I don't know whether I'd say here we go this week, but it feels like it's moving very, very fast indeed. Also, let me just catch up on a few of your comments. Gazi says, off topic, but we should be all over Creepy. Loved Martial, he's so similar to him and we need another forward anyway. I can't see us going for Creepy.

20:41I just can't. I can't see it. yeah I mean look having said that we clearly were talking about Morgan Rogers last night so Sog says sorry Sog has gifted a membership thank you very much pal you're a legend Patrick Lynch says you're right it's probably priced focusing on the Italian market as most clubs because even the big clubs are desperate for cash if you want cheap deals it's the top league that probably has them yeah I mean a lot of Italian clubs are financially in trouble as Patrick said so yeah just going back to the Anthony Gordon Barcelona thing Marcus Rashford thing remember Anthony Gordon may well like the idea of Bayern Munich because Harry Kane's there um he may like not like the idea of Arsenal or Liverpool so it's not guaranteed that Anthony Gordon's off to Barcelona um and also maybe Barcelona are using that as a negotiation tactic with Man United in the sense that they could go and sign a player like Anthony Gordon anyway.

21:47But they might say to Man United, look, if you don't want to drop the price, we're going to sign him and not go for you anyway.

21:55Ben Jacobs also with another update this morning. Man City optimistic on signing Elliot Anderson. Talks with Forrest now underway. Man United have several other midfield options in case they miss out on top target. Man City's priority has always been Anderson. I mean, it's a depressing update, isn't it? I mean, we're sort of catching some live stuff here as we are live, which is great. As I say, I'm really enjoying this transfer window so far. But whether it's going to end up being an enjoyable transfer window is something that's going to be up for debate. And it feels like I think with Ben Jacobs and Fabrizio Romano in the last few minutes giving similar updates, Man City are deep in talks for Elliot Anderson.

22:34and are optimistic that they'll get that deal done. Their priority has always been Elliot Anderson. I mean, you know, Man City can take their priority always being Elliot Anderson and piss off, right? Because our priority has always been Elliot Anderson as well. So what does that mean? The reality is Man City are in advance talks with Forrest to do a deal for Elliot Anderson. And Man United are saying, oh, well, we've got other options if we don't get our top target. I mean, I just, I despair. I absolutely despair. Like, when did we stop being Man United? When did we stop being the biggest club in England?

23:12That's what pisses me off. And I think this is behind a lot of the arguments that we have in this fan base. Some people accept what we are now and embrace it and celebrate it. Ooh, we've come third, this, that and the other. And then some of us are like, we're Manchester United. third place is good from where we were last season, but we shouldn't be bloody celebrating it unless it's going to be a step to first. I mean, I almost feel like third place might be the pinnacle. Like that might be, maybe we should be celebrating third place because that's all we're ever going to get. And I'm not celebrating third place if that's all we're going to get.

23:48It has to be a stepping stone to the first. But you can't sit there going, Elliot Anderson's our top priority and then Man City come in and go, well, he's ours as well. Don't worry. We've got other options. No, piss off. You know, you can do one. You've lost your manager. We're in the Champions League now. We're Manchester United and we're back. We should be selling the fucking dream. And that's not without talking about court cases. I mean, Elliot Anderson, I'm sorry, I will say this. If you sign for Man City and they get relegated in the next two years and a points deduction, don't say nobody didn't warn you.

24:24the chances of that happening who knows who knows okay but I've got no sympathy with Gehi Semenyu or Elliot Anderson if they sign for Man City and find themselves relegated because everybody's talking about it and it could well happen come to Man United that ain't happening come to Man United you will get far more adulation than you'll ever get at Man City because Man City is a stepping stone club they don't create the sort of noise and aura that Man United players do I mean, Bruno Fernandes has broken the assist record. He's probably got more popularity than Kevin De Bruyne ever had. And Kevin De Bruyne was winning Champions Leagues and Premier Leagues.

25:01It's true. Bruno's aura is bigger than Kevin De Bruyne's. It shouldn't be the case, but it is. And that's because one wears a Man United shirt and one doesn't. And Man City and Arsenal fans and every other fan can moan about it, but they know it's true. That's why they'll moan about it. Bruno Fernandes, never winning a Premier League, never winning a Champions League, breaking the assist record has more aura, eyes and noise than Kevin De Bruyne individually ever really got. Oh no, you're talking nonsense. I'm not saying Bruno's a better player than De Bruyne. I'm just saying when you do it in a Man United shirt, you get a lot more noise.

25:35It's always been the way. So, so United sitting back and just letting their number one priority go worries me. It does worry me because I saw an article in iPaper today, actually. Let me just go to it Where was it?

25:56It was basically saying that It was going through Manchester United's targets And it was talking about

26:09Basically saying that Edison looks like it's a deal that will get done Fernandes we'll talk about in a minute from West Ham is a player that they want. Elliot Anderson is a player that they like, and so is Chiumini. But if they don't get either of those two, Belayba is a good option because they really liked him last season. And because he's had an up and down season, he'd be considerably cheaper than Elliot Anderson and Chiumini. And I just suddenly went, I went, oh, shit. Because my interpretation is if we sign Edison and we sign Fernandes, we'll never go near Balaba because Balaba is that level of a midfielder.

26:57But this article in my paper was basically saying, you know, I could get Edison and Fernandes. And then if they don't get Chumini or Anderson, they could go for Balaba. as the Elliot Anderson and Chumini replacement. And that's terrifying. And again, another article saying United really like the data and they think that Balayba would be a really good partner for Mainu so that Mainu can express himself. Um, so I don't, I don't, I don't like that. I don't like that. And look, there's an element of scaremongering there. I would own it myself. And there's an element of scare, scaremongering there.

27:47But the point is, the point is, and hopefully we won't get to that point. Yes. Edison is very, very doable. And, and, and, you know, so is Fernandez at West Ham. But if you don't get Anderson and you don't get Chermini and you're not in for Tonali and Bruno Gamera's. Come on down, Balaba.

28:12You know, so that that's what worries me is that we may end up with Balaba as the Elliot Anderson or Chouamini replacement, because I've got absolutely no idea where we go beyond those two. It should be Tonali. Like you can't replace. I mean, just, just on that one very, very quickly. If you want to sign Belaba, make sure you sign Anderson, Tumini or Tonali as well. If you want to sign Belaba, don't make him be the Casemiro replacement. He's got to be option two or three. Do not make him be the Casemiro replacement. I mean, this is a guy I've seen play a lot this season and he's been pretty average.

28:53There's another word as well. But we saw in the 20-minute cameo against us at the weekend where he was benched for James Milner that he ain't a Casemiro replacement. He's a prospect. Notice how I've not said the word shit or is useless or the data's crap. I'm just saying, in a nice way, you cannot replace Casemiro with Balaba. He ain't ready for that. He may never be ready for that.

29:20So that would worry me. Aspiration of a top club, but ambition of Ipswich, says JSD. We're going to end up with Agate, Manu and Orozco, says Rika. No, no, no. I'm not having that. We will sign players. It's just whether we sign the right players. Stig Olsen says So funny that what people are talking about is if Bruno didn't take the record instead of Arsenal winning after 22 years just shows how big United are, says Stig Look, I don't think anything's bigger than Arsenal winning the league but Bruno's assist record has had a hell of a lot of noise around it and that's because he's a Man United player I'm not I know it's controversial to say it but what I'm saying is if Elliot Anderson signs for Man United he'll have a lot more noise around his career than he will at Man City Pick a man city player You know, John Stones Is a better centre-back than Harry Maguire And he's won multiple Premier League titles And a Champions League Who's had the bigger PR noise Over the last five years John Stones or Harry Maguire It's Harry Maguire Every fucking day of the week Harry Maguire will be more known worldwide Than John Stones Because because he plays for Man United.

30:35And this is what I mean. How are agents and players so financially greedy in the short term that they don't see the big win in the long term? Man City might give you 300 grand a week and you might get 15 million in your back pocket as an agent. But if your client signs for Man United, the money and noise and brand exposure and growth you're going to get at Man United is going to dwarf anything that happens at Man City. Because at Man United, and it's a bad thing, you don't even have to be that good. John Stones is better than Harry Maguire. Kevin De Bruyne is better than Bruno. But who gets more noise?

31:16Bruno and Harry Maguire. Man United's better for your career. It is. It is. We've got more fans, more noise, more interest. We finished bloody 15th last year. We weren't in Europe this year. We still will have got more attention than Chelsea, Newcastle, Spurs. All these clubs in the Champions League, we get more. I don't necessarily think it's a good thing, but we do. We do. So funny. Thank you very much, Stig. Morning, Mark. Happy Eid to all the United Stand community. And I just hope the club gets the best players for Carrick next season, says Midri. I think that's what we all want, mate. Certainly.

31:55done that from Gazze done that from Sog PS4 good time says now I know you wouldn't know exactly but do you feel like everyone is leaving City at the same time or is it just end of contract for each person Harland will be gone in the next 12 months Harland will have something in his contract if they get relegated so will a few other players Rodri could be going this summer that Man City job is a rebuild job but if we're being honest Elliot Anderson will be going to Man City because of the money he will Man United put the money on the table I think we win the race Hi Mark maybe I'm the only one who expects two midfielders been supporting United for 36 years and the last 13 to 14 is just disappointment love what you do says Mikey we've got to buy three Mikey it won't be enough weren't there reports we only want to buy two midfielders in January by Fabrizio you said that we need three not two it doesn't make sense but it's united says nishant yeah i mean look maybe they will buy two but i just don't think it makes any sense we'll fall apart i mean you've got maynew and two others and then you got mount fuck off you know we've got maynew and two others i genuinely believe that any off if any us were serious about a title charge they'd give another 50 million or so 350 million total and say we need to win the premier league go get as good players as VX.

33:17Mate, look, I need to move on to the Xerxes story. I don't know why people don't demand more of this. I don't know why the press don't talk about it more. I don't know why there is this trust around this ownership. The Glazers got hold of the club when it had no debt and had just been renovating a new stadium. 20 years later, we're over a billion pound in debt and our stadium is rotten. That's the Glazers for you. And we've not won anything for 13 years. Ineos have come in and in the space of two years have wasted over half a billion on managers that they've sacked and are now following the path of the Glazers by giving an interim ex-player the job and hoping it's going to work.

33:57On top of that, their recent foray into football is an absolute joke. Nice are on the verge of relegation. Nice can't wait to get rid of Ineos and Ineos are trying to sell Nice. So look, optimism is fine, but scrutiny is very, very important when dealing with these owners. These are not people that deserve time, patience or respect. They are chances. They are failures. And if you were betting, if you're a betting person, you'd bet on them fucking it up because that's what history shows you with them. so look we can all be optimistic and we can all hope but i ain't gonna sit here and say don't worry we'll sign three player three midfielders and one of them will be a world class player it could you know they're absolutely shit at what they do hopefully agate has a good world cup says keel uh alex says what's your thoughts on mount and agate double pivot we'll get relegated uh can you say hi to my fiance jade she loves the show says lem hello to jade hope you're having a good day and Sarvesh says Sir Jim wanted to follow the Arsenal model they stuck with Arteta we sacked Ten Hag and Amrim they sold Ozil Aubameyang we are extending Maguire they bought best in class like rice and we'll settle for third choice as Sarvesh I yeah I mean I think we're more following the Chelsea model to be honest but the Chelsea model is about to change we're following and I don't know any other Premier League club that does it because Arsenal don't do it, Man City don't do it, Liverpool don't do it, Chelsea don't do it anymore.

35:29We're following the inexperienced head coach controlled by a board route and our whole history has been successful on managers that rebuild clubs, Sir Matt Busby and Sir Alex Ferguson. So we're not even respecting our own history with this model either. if six ins and four outs are to happen that's a deal every eight days coxie and co don't have the brains or team for it don't be surprised if we go down some dead ends as hitton and i think that's probably why we're going for edison hitton because it's a quick deal it's an easy deal there's no competition he's only got one year left on his contract atalanta have got to take something he's a midfielder so maybe that's why we're going for something like that we bet we are keeping agate so we don't have to spend on three midfielders ridiculous we're so poor in the transfer window we can't even move a flop on, says JMR.

36:24Happy Eid to everyone, says Adnan. And isn't it just City saying they are Anderson's favourites, says Martin? I hope so. I mean, I still hold out hope that we'll get Anderson. I think I'm probably the only person who does. Rhythmic says, I'll be super pissed if we don't sign Anderson. Say goodbye to our season and future if we don't sign him. This transfer is so important. There is another. There is another. Tonali. If we don't get Tonali or Anderson or Chiamini, we fucked up. Abagot running the club says, Adam, was Balaba more defensive than Anderson? Says Kiel Robinson. I think they were pretty much the same unsuccessful defensive actions, but Anderson obliterated him everywhere else.

37:08Steve Wingard says, why not go for Bruno G rather than Balaba? If we lose out on the main targets, which we shouldn't do, and the board would have failed if we do. Well, remember, Bruno Gomez is Casemiro's recommendation. they won't take bets on Rashford to Barcelona anymore says Robert McCormack well that's good news then that means it sounds like it's happening out of context but Carrick is our Gary O 'Neill says Andrew if they owned Bournemouth they'd have kept him never gone for Areola Liverpool will get Areola now and we missed a generational opportunity and Patrick Lynch says United need to look beyond just stats when looking to replace Casemiro there are intangibles there you need to factor in as well yeah experience dressing room respect you know lots of things that you're not going to buy Emily Derry says I would start Edison over Belaber after the season he has had at Brighton but we are supposed to be okay with that then except not getting Anderson to Nali Chumini are they men or are they mice thank you very much Emily good morning thank you very much for that okay let me talk to you about Xerxes so a bit of an update we spoke about Agate another outgoing Xerxes I have concerns about this because you know there's nothing wrong when you go on instagram and you see luke shaw saying season done and then mounts in there going lukey shaw and quina's going love you and all this i mean look it's dressing room camaraderie and they all get on okay that's absolutely fine as i said third place is a really good season but if that's the pinnacle this lot can jog on because we need to go to the next step and hopefully a lot of those players want to do that where i have concerns about xerxes is is that he's quite clearly, after two years, not a Man United player.

38:52He's just not a Man United player. Like the stick he got at Sunderland, I thought was over the top. His impact against Brighton, and I think he might have come on against Forest, was non-existent. He's just not a Man United player. And yet all we ever hear is he's not looking for a move. He's really happy at Man United and he's not expressing a desire to leave. Man United can part ways but want a decent fee. Roma admire him as his reputation in Italy still persists. This is an example of ruthlessness, right? He doesn't want to go and he's not agitating for a leave. Why? Why don't you want to go?

39:35you're 25 Man United you enjoy it you get paid well but your career's on the floor mate you were in the Dutch squad you're nowhere near it now you don't start for Man United you don't come on as the first or second sub for Man United you get you get what I would describe as charity minutes you get minutes when the game's over you get minutes when there's no jeopardy you don't get minutes from the bench when the game's tight or we need to win. So you are a bit park player at Man United at best. What is there to like? Well, okay, it's Man United. I get on with the players. You're a professional footballer, mate.

40:18You are living the dream. You are 25. You are not appreciated in the team at all. Go and play football. Go and play football because you're going to regret it when you retire. You're going to go, I sat there enjoying myself. It's not a holiday. it's a career go and play football and that's ruthless that's what Carrick should be saying to him and Wilcox should be saying you're for sale it's not even De Serks' decision it's not our decision Carrick should be saying exactly what I've said you're not part of my plans I know you like it here and I know you're popular but you're not part of my plans and I don't want to keep popular people I want to keep people who are part of my plans so as far as I'm concerned you can stay but that's not going to change.

41:04Right? And then Jason Wilcox needs to say, I know you like it here, but you're for sale. Donny van der Beek liked it here. You know, you're for sale. That's, that's, I don't, I don't get, I just, Pep Guardiola, Mikel Arteta, Jurgen Klopp, they wouldn't do, they wouldn't keep these players. I like Xerxi and I'm sure he is a nice guy. I'm, you know, I'm sure he is. And I actually quite like him as a player. He just doesn't suit Man United. But there's 30 million quid there. We're talking about we need to buy midfielders. We need to buy a left back. We need to buy a winger. There's 30 million quid there.

41:42Imagine in your garden, right? There's 30 million quid jumping around the garden, having a good time, right? Playing on the swings, really enjoying themselves. And in your kitchen cupboard, you haven't got enough food and you can't put the heating on. You don't want to put the heating on in this weather. And you haven't got a car. Are you going to let that£30 million just run around your garden having a good time whilst you go hungry and you can't drive anywhere? This is what I mean. We're not a bloody charity. Oh, he's happy. He's enjoying himself. He's not agitating for a move. Oh, hold on. Last time I checked, it's Man United, not Xerxes United.

42:18You're up for sale. You're not part of our plans. But that's the sort of thing we don't do. We don't get that ruthlessness at the football club. so look he needs to go he needs to go but there's money there that could be used elsewhere so yeah he needs to go uh if we do get anderson do we build the team around him or bruno's as keel robinson they're two different players mate in two different positions at man united we didn't build the tight we didn't build the team out around david beckham or ryan giggs or roy keane or Paul Scholes, we had all four. This, you know, Bruno's not Lionel Messi and Elliot Anderson's not Ronaldo, so we don't need to worry about it.

43:00We don't need to build a team around either of them. We need to build a team. To be fair, City can't get rid of Calvin Phillips, says Robert McCormack. Yeah, but there'll be buyers for Xerxes. I mean, Calvin Phillips was probably on a lot of money. I've seen this board fail too often, says Dan. They sign Edison and stop there. Anderson joins City. Carrick gets left exposed again and the cycle repeats. Harvey says hope you're well surely there is no excuse for Carrick and not getting Anderson Carrick was literally a holding midfielder and knows the great importance of the role he should be pushing for this you know what I read something the other day about Carrick and being a brilliant midfielder well I didn't need to read it he was but I read something that if there's one player that can get a midfielder and tune them up a few levels it's Michael Carrick and I thought oh no here we go Fabrizio Romano So here we go.

43:52We don't need to buy Tonali or Anderson because Carrick could get Belaber or Edison and turn them into Tonali or Anderson because he used to play in the midfield. What a crock of shit. Pep Guardiola didn't go and buy the Preston team for 10 million pounds and turn them into world beaters, did he? He went and bought world beaters and then used his experience. Let's not take the piss out of Michael Carrick and let's not give him the impossible job. just because Michael Carrick was a really good midfielder doesn't mean he can go and get an average midfielder and turn them into prime Michael Carrick because if that was the case Man City wouldn't have spent billions go and get Michael Carrick the best he can get and let him tell them how to play football or teach them don't go and get bloody ugly ducklings and expect to turn them into a bloody swan Anderson is this year's Belaber top target but surprised at the prize the whole world knows is what the club's quote is.

44:50Just wasting time with spin, says Gaz. Reminder for you about the end of season awards. I'm going to do that now. Thank you very much, Rajaf. So the awards that were done by Beth and Ricky and Mauds and Kev last night, I got a list of what they did. So player of the season was everyone went for Bruno apart from Ricky, he said Luke Shaw. Young player of the season, everyone went for Maynou apart from Beth, who said heaven. And most improved player, Mauds was Casemiro, Beth was Luke Shaw, Ricky was Dorgou, Tull was Cunha and Kevin was Le Mans. Player of the season for me is Bruno. I mean, it's a piece of piss.

45:39I mean, what Ricky's on about with Luke Shaw, I wouldn't even have him in my top five. But Bruno Fernandes, if you can't give player of the season to Bruno Fernandes, I think it probably would have to be Casemiro. Just the volume of goals, the volume of tackles. He needed replacing, but one game a week with a World Cup at the end of the year and a new deal to be fighting for. I think we caught Casemiro on a perfect storm. I mean, if you look at Casemiro that season, I think it might have been Ten Hag or Amrim, where he put on a bit of weight and, you know, didn't look interested. You look at the Casemiro this year, World Cup to get back into, new deal in the summer, one game a week, he's been brilliant.

46:23So Casemiro would be my player of the season if it wasn't Bruno. You know, young player of the season. I mean, it's difficult because there aren't that many young players at the club. Yoro, Mainu, Heaven, under 21. So I agree. I think best shout is very good, Aidan Heaven. I think he has been brilliant for us, but Carrick hasn't used him enough. So I think I would have to agree with Mainu. Most improved player.

46:52I do like Matt's shout out of Sesko. Maud's Casemiro one is quite interesting based on what I just said there but it's Casemiro I don't think I'd say most improved Luke Shaw is not getting most improved Beth just because he was available I mean she's right in a way I mean it is a big improvement from sitting on your arse injured and actually playing games of football but unfortunately I don't think he was very good at playing the football Dorgoo is a really good shout from Ricky which just shows you you know he can go from extreme to extreme it's never mild with Ricky It's either freezing or hot.

47:26Tull said Cunha and Kev said Le Mans. I think that Dorgou or Le Mans for most improved player is probably my shout. I think where Dorgou was at the start of the season, he was getting absolute pelters. But then again, he has been injured for a lot of the season. So I think Le Mans has to be most improved because, I mean, literally, Le Mans could have been a puppy in goal and it's still better than a bag of shit. He hasn't been a puppy. I think he's been a cat at times. He's been brilliant. But also the extremity from what we had to what we have now. I think I would go with what Kev said and go Le Mans.

48:10So, yeah, that's my thoughts on that. Can't believe it's been 27 years Since the Champions League final In 99 Mate, it's been 18 years Since 2008 Our Champions League Look, it's 13 years since we won the Premier League It's 18 years since we won the Champions League It's disgusting It's absolutely disgusting I said this to you last week There should be an obsession at that football club To go and win The league Ricky's still confused with his short obsession says Jared my first choice is also Anderson because of offence but come he made needs context, Chimini's defence is more impactful on reality, Anderson defence better says JDC thank you very much, ok great show, we're back at 2 o 'clock 8 o 'clock tonight as well, loving the shows at the moment, obviously if anything happens we will react to that for you as well do you think Anderson's going to sign for City.

49:10I think everything suggests he's going to, but I'm not giving up on it. I don't know why Man United have given up on it. I mean, Pep's not there anymore. Court case is hanging over them. We're in the Champions League. You'll become a bigger player at Man United. Why are we losing this race? I think we should be winning this race. Don't know. Take care, everyone. Stay safe. I'll speak to you on the next one.