420: Tonali AND Rogers DOUBLE Swoop! Carrick's 250 MILLION Budget!

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0:42So we're going to be starting off tonight, this morning and this afternoon, depending on where you're watching from, on this£250 million budget. Now, normally we speculate about a£250 million budget, but this is actually based in fact. The financials came out from Man United yesterday and a couple of journalists have been speaking on what Man United can spend. Now, they could actually spend more. We'll be delving into how United could and should and will spend this£250 million. Because I think in reality, that means you can sign a Tonali and a Morgan Rodgers and still have enough money left in the bank to get an Edison, a Fernandes and a fullback.

1:20And we'll talk about how that can happen as well. We've also got updates on Cermini. Obviously, I mentioned Tonali as well. the left-back situation, what's happening with Balaber, what's happening with Fernandes as well, and a few other bits on Scott and Strikers. So lots to get into on the show this morning, reacting to everything that's come out since we spoke last night. So let's start off with this story that's coming out in relation to United's ability to spend. The Manchester Evening News has actually said that Manchester United could spend close to£300 million on transfers in this summer window, according to third quarter financial results.

1:56But£1 billion, if they wanted to. I mean, we are a football club that could do that. But the main thrust of this is coming in from an article in the BBC by Simon Stone where he says, the club have confirmed that since reporting period ended on the 31st of March, they had paid off$110 million on their revolving credit facility. That is important because the facility is a key method of paying for transfers, and it means they have £250 million left to spend. Also within those accounts, United say they owe£405 million in outstanding transfer fees, 170 of which is due after more than one year. Also, we have the Champions League revenue to come in as well.

2:37So I think it's safe to say that United are in debt. And it's safe to say that United owe a lot of money in transfers as well. And it's safe to say Man United might not want to spend much at all. However, I think it's also safe to say that we can easily spend£250 million and the money is there. Now, remember,£250 million doesn't necessarily get spent. £250 million doesn't necessarily get spent. In essence, if you buy, I don't know, Edison from Atalanta for£35 million, it might not be£35 million. It might be£10 this year,£20 next year, and£5 the year after. So how you spend that money is also dependent on the installments that you pay, because as it says there, we owe£170 million in transfer fees.

3:26We owe£400 million altogether in transfer fees. So it's not like we've got to spend the full£250 on two players or three players. We can have installments as well. How we're going to spend this money I think gets really interesting because if United have anywhere near the appetite that we have to buy players, then I think that it's going to be a very, very interesting summer for Manchester United. because we can spend around£150 million on midfielders and still have another£100 million to spend on other areas, which if we're not going to buy a winger, means that there is still considerable amount of money to spend on potentially a striker, maybe another number 10, maybe a left-back as well.

4:09So lots to get into. If you've got a problem with it being muted, just refresh because everyone else can hear. So let's talk about specific players this morning, But I just wanted to start off on that because I think when we speculate about the summer ahead, I think it's really important to figure out that actually there is considerable funds there to be spent. Actually, I just want to talk about Chumini very, very quickly because obviously there are updates on Tonali, there are updates on Morgan Rogers, and we can talk about those. But just in relation to Chumini, I think there's a lot of good information out there and bad information out there.

4:48And I think sometimes somebody can give good information, then people think they know everything and they don't. So we were talking yesterday about how Favell is pushing for Chiamini as a Man United midfield option. And we're always going to get this spin. I actually predicted it about two weeks ago. I said, how long will it be until the spin comes out of the club that wonderful Wilcox is here and brilliant Barada is here? And I saw a few things last night about how Manchester, and you've got to be very, very careful about this because people get information from the club. But in return, you get something from the club and the club wants something back.

5:25Fact. That's just the way it works. So if the club give you something, you've got to do something in return. And who owns the club? Ineos and the Glazers. And what do they want? They want positivity to be about themselves and their employers, right? so obviously ben jacobs said yesterday that favell was pushing for chumini and then later on last night i saw a couple of in in the know people saying this is nonsense manchester united have a holistic approach to transfers and they don't do anything unless everybody agrees it and they all discuss it and there's loads of people involved there's data dean there's commercial there's this that and the other and nobody does anything without wilcox and everybody agreeing with it together.

6:05So it's not Favell who pushes a deal. Everybody does it together. And I thought, what a load of bollocks. I mean, this is clearly coming from people that are being told to say something or have never worked in an organisation before. Because Favell is not the director of football, Jason Wilcox is. And Jason Wilcox is not the CEO, Omar Barada is. They don't all sit in a fucking room and go, let's all agree on everything and we won't leave unless we do. What a load of crap. That won't work. The whole point is having a chain of command. It won't work. And it's not what happens at Manchester United.

6:38People have to make decisions based upon their grade at that boardroom. So Michael Carrick can't walk in and say, I really, really, really want Hayden Hackney and we're not going anywhere until we agree on it. Because someone will say no. So straight away, you don't get the agreement. Favell wanted Nagelsmann. It didn't happen. Favell likes Stiller. It's not going to happen. Jason Wilcox wanted Liam De Lappe. It very nearly happened, but Liam De Lappe chose Chelsea. Favell didn't want De Lappe. He wanted Cesco. So I haven't got a problem with this. There is a chain of command in Man United's boardroom.

7:13They don't all sit there together playing ring-a-ring-a-roses and decide on everything together. You get voted down. There is a final decision. That's what happens. That's what's happening at Manchester United. So when Ben Jacobs or anyone else says Favell is pushing for Ciamini, Favelle is pushing for Chiamini. It doesn't mean that Wilcox or Berrada don't want Chiamini. They might go, that's a really good idea. We really like this. We're all in agreement. Yeah. Or they might go, Wilcox might be in agreement. Berrada might go, I really want a homegrown player. I'd rather get Wharton or Anderson, but he might get voted down.

7:47He might get persuaded. So, you know, Liam DeLapp was Wilcox. Wilcox had him at Man City and he pushed it and he persuaded everybody and he got the vote for it. And it didn't happen because he signed for Chelsea. There literally is people who disagree in that boardroom. There literally are deals we don't do because they get voted down. There literally are deals that we do because somebody's not unhappy, but three or four are happy. It's what you call democracy. They don't all agree on things. And I actually think that's a positive. And I don't know why United would try and pretend that it's not a positive.

8:22We need people with different skills in that boardroom, putting up different arguments. Otherwise, they may as well put a bloody collar around their neck that says bloody Sheila the Sheep or Sean the Sheep, and they can all go bah. There is conversations, disagreements, debates in that boardroom about what we're trying to do. And sometimes people get listened to, sometimes people don't. Faval wanted Sesco all summer. Sesco was Man United's fifth choice. We went Jokeres first. We went Dalak first. I think we were even thinking about somebody else before him as well. So this is a positive. This is a good thing.

9:01But I do wonder sometimes if United just try, it always happens in the summer. I think it's seen as an opportunity to try and make certain people look good who aren't necessarily that good.

9:14Wilcox is director of football, Barada is CEO, and Favell has his own role as well. They don't all agree on things. They don't all agree on things and that's a good thing. And that's why certain players do get associated with certain people. Now, Morgan Rodgers, Morgan Rodgers is a player that Man United, I would not be surprised if he's wearing a Man United shirt. Now, I obviously live around where Villa play, have a few contacts around that, knew about what was going on with Man United and Emery. It was a price thing. United wouldn't go anywhere near it. Emery never even got to speaking to him because ultimately he probably wouldn't want to be a head coach with Morgan Rogers it is fully expected from Villa that he will go this summer they're not pushing him out the door but there is an acceptance that he's done a good job at Villa and now is probably the time to cash in and Villa do tend to sell a player every summer Jacob Ramsey last year Douglas Luiz the year before so there is an acceptance that Morgan Rodgers could be heading.

10:14Now, what I got told is that Man United are very interested in Morgan Rodgers, but they don't want to get involved in a bidding war and they don't want to overpay. Sounds very familiar, doesn't it? But I think with this£250 million, Morgan Rodgers is very, very doable. I was doing the maths on this. If you've got£250 million, and that's what the big story is this morning. If you buy Edison for 35 and say Fernandez for 55 and Chiamini for 70, what's that? 70, 125. And then what was it? 35, 125. It's about 160 million pounds on Edison, Fernandez and Cermini,£160 million. You've still got 90 left.

11:02But remember, we're not going to pay that full£165 straight away. There might be some installments on that. So we might only end up spending about 80 of that£160 in year one. And Morgan Rogers might be £80 million, but spread over three years. So that£250 million can go a long way, can go a very long way. But even if you spend 160 on those three midfielders, you can still buy Morgan Rodgers for 80 and not bother with a left back and not bother with a left winger and not bother with a striker. So it is still massively doable for Manchester United to get Morgan Rodgers. Now, what we're hearing is that Michael Carrick is a massive fan of Morgan Rodgers, having had him at Middlesbrough.

11:46Jason Wilcox really likes Morgan Rodgers because I think there's a Man City connection there somewhere. also he's homegrown so there's a lot of ticks as to why Morgan Rodgers could be coming to Manchester United now I like the player I can only report the news I like the player I don't think I don't think it reminds me of Mason Mount in the sense that do we need to do that deal I mean I could get two decent fullbacks left back and a right back and not get Morgan Rodgers. And that to me is the mic drop because as much as I like Morgan Rodgers, I think the profile is very similar to Kunya. I don't think Bruno Fernandes is going anywhere.

12:29Mason Mount's not going anywhere. So where does Morgan Rodgers go? It's£80 million for somebody that is going to bench somebody that's cost us a lot. Ultimately, if we sign Morgan Rodgers, he's benching somebody we spent a lot of money on a year ago, or he's benching himself. And that's the way I look at it. Very good player, very exciting player. Certainly don't want to not sign him because I think he's shit. But if you buy Rodgers and start him, you are definitely benching one of Sesco, Cunha and Mbremo. And a year ago, we spent on average£60 million on each of them. So that doesn't make sense to me when you've got Luke Shaw and Deleu at fullback.

13:07So I would say maybe Morgan Rodgers, we skip, but, and we spend that money on a right back and a left back. Because I tell you what,£80 million on Morgan Rodgers, you will get two very good fullbacks at£40 million each. You'll get a very good fullback at£40 million. In fact, you might get a£50 million fullback and a£30 million fullback. So that's where I would spend the money because I think if Man United do figure out what you can do at fullback, we'll be in for a very, very, very big, steep incline when it comes to Manchester United. Just on Chiamini as well, I think the reason Frivel has identified him is because he is the most prototype six on our list.

13:53Now, we don't necessarily have to play with a six. We play with a midfield pivot. we could play with two eights um we could we could split the role but i think there is this acceptance that at the moment and maybe forever meinu is not mobile enough for the defensive side of the game he might get better at that he's still only 20 but at the moment defensively isn't really that good so do you put somebody who's experienced next to him who defensively is very switched on. I think that's why Favell is probably pushing this because Anderson's not experienced and isn't really a holding player. Tonali is experienced and I think he can do it, but he likes to move out of that position a lot and press high of the pitch.

14:37So that's probably why we're looking at Ciumini. I'll talk about Tonali next. I've got a few other players to talk about as well. My stomach's absolutely rumbling here. It could be an early end if it moves its way. May I just ask, Morgan Rodgers why? I feel our shortfalls need to be prioritised It makes no sense as Chad I think Morgan Rodgers is a player that we would not be talking about Ordinarily if it wasn't for Michael Carrick and Wilcox You know, and their desire to bring him in Now, obviously That doesn't mean, going back to what we said before That doesn't mean that Morgan Rodgers hasn't been mentioned in the boardroom And Favell and Barada have gone Yeah, if you can get the deal done, let's do it It doesn't mean they're against it, but everybody will be pushing something.

15:25You know, if you've ever worked in an office environment or a boardroom environment or, you know, everybody does now meetings, somebody comes up with an idea. You know, it might be McDonald's employee monthly meeting and they talk about the summer do and someone says, let's go go-karting. Someone came up with the idea and then everyone else goes, that's a good idea, isn't it? So I don't know why United are so desperate to leak out to people that, oh no, it's all done together. No, it's not all done together. Somebody sparks the idea. Somebody comes in and says, we should sell this player or we should buy this player.

15:59And then it's just about how many people agree with it. and like I say with Morgan Rodgers everybody might agree with it but it's Carrick and Wilcox that are pushing it as their project because they really like the player why we're doing it there might be a little bit of long term thinking there he's still relatively young Bruno's obviously coming towards the end of his career they might be thinking about this is the player that we want for years to come I don't know De Vart is good as long as decision is made I don't know what you've said there Emily De Vart And if you're going to have a board making decisions, one person cannot get it all their own way, says Emily Derry.

16:38Debate is good. That's what it is. Debate is good so long as a decision is made. And if you're going to have a board making decisions, one person cannot get it all their own way. Absolutely, Emily. Look, at the end of the day, if you need to go to war because you're under attack and you've got all your generals in a board and you say, we're not going to go to war until everybody agrees, you could still be talking when you get conquered. Somebody has to take the lead. The worst boardroom in the world is the one where we won't do anything until we all agree. There has to be a chain of command. You can work for agreement and you can listen to feedback, but I would say, you know, you walk into a room, midday, we need to decide if we're going to sign and Morgan Rogers.

17:26Start the meeting at nine o 'clock. There's a hard end to this meeting at half ten. If we haven't decided, I'll make a decision. There has to be a chain of command. What signings does Wilcox get credit for, says Robert McCormack? I mean, look, we don't have the information on all of that. And I think you're probably being a little bit pedantic, Robert, which would be unlike you. I think if you listen to Cunha and Mbuermo, they were persuaded by Amarim. We know Le Mans was Tony Cotin. We know Sesko was Wilcox. Sorry, it was Favell. Dorgou, I don't really know who pushed Dorgou. I think it might have been Favell because that just seems like him.

18:08But you know what, Robert? Is it Jason Wilcox's job to go out there and decide I want this player or not? You know, a lot of the time he should probably be getting information fed into him. I think De Lapp was because of Man City and his knowledge of De Lapp. I think that De Lapp deal probably haunts him a little bit because it was him. He had him at Man City. Ugarte, who was responsible for that? I don't know. I mean, we could make it up and say it was Wilcox, but it definitely wasn't Ten Hag. So I don't think that ultimately everybody has to take responsibility. but somebody's in the position who makes the decisions uh what do you think about barcelona buying all players says youssef well i think barcelona have taken a very uh intelligent approach to this summer transfer window in trying to sign players very very quickly i don't think it's looking good for marcus rashford which means it's not looking good for for us um i i i i saw the update on rashford yesterday i think it came in from sky as well that Man United don't want him back.

19:16And if Barcelona don't want him, they'll find a solution elsewhere. But Man United don't want him back. I think that's really important because what we have to do this summer is be logical, ruthless and aggressive. If we waste time with Rashford, we will lose time with others and we haven't got a lot of time. So if United are saying, look, we don't want Rashford back no matter what, that's a good thing because it means that if Rashford doesn't get Barcelona, you know, there's no confusion. I don't think he wants to come back either. So he's got to find another solution. He's going to be in a very, look, I feel, I think he's been, I don't know the situation, but I think Barcelona have done what's best for them.

19:58But I don't think, you know, I don't think they've treated Rashford particularly well, but Bayern Munich might be good for him. If I was his agent, I would be on to Bayern Munich because Nicholas Jackson's not staying. they wanted Anthony Gordon I think Bayern Munich would be a good place for Rashford swap Kane for Rashford 60 million clause proven strikers as Clayton yeah Bayern Munich ain't stupid um and and actually one of the problems that I think Rashford had at Barcelona is apparently the wage with Lewandowski leaving and Rashford leaving somebody was saying that it's it's in excess of 600 ,000 pounds a week in wages because of course Barcelona didn't pay as a loan fee but they took on 100 % of his wages.

20:41So, I mean, I don't know what the Barcelona wage bill is, but I should be able to. And look, it feeds into United because United don't want this wage bill either. But these are just estimated wage bills at Barcelona. So you've got...

21:06Lewandowski was on€400 ,000 a week. De Jong,€365 ,000, Rafinha,€320 ,000, Yamal,€320 ,000, Koundé,€300 ,000, Testegen,€300 ,000, and then Rashford. Obviously, he's on about€300 ,000 as well, isn't he? So I think that they're obviously trying to reduce their wage bill down, aren't they? PSR is replaced with SER, allowing us to spend more, says Josh. Neil Welker, thank you very much for your super chat. Jack says, mute bridge.

21:40United Stand Team: I think it was muted for some people, but you just need to refresh. Obviously, that's a YouTube issue. Nothing we can do about that. Salah Mohamed says, why can't we sign Alex Scott? Well, we spoke a lot about Alex Scott last night, so I don't propose to talk about him on a news show. But I think Bournemouth expects him to sign a new contract. If he doesn't sign a new contract, then maybe there's something that Manchester United can do there. But as I said, I think the interesting thing I wanted to talk about next was Tonali. So in relation to Tonali, a few things about him. But I thought there was an interesting update from the Athletic's Laurie Whitwell on this.

22:19And he said, look, earlier in the year with Tonali, it felt quite strong. We then got told that the price was just not something United could contemplate. plate uh there's been reports in italy this week that he's on the agenda alongside edison i don't know if that's just from italian origins though uh with that um it's sensed prior to this point that his price was beyond the realms of what united were willing to pay and i think that's sort of where i am with tonali and that's where i think it has been with tonali for quite a while It feels like Man United have put themselves in a position where they aren't going to overspend And I think that sort of fits in with Anderson, doesn't it?

23:14I had a few people message me this morning about why Anderson would choose a pepless Man City who could be about to get charged over Man United who are in the Champions League and could be on the bounce back. But if Man City are offering him 250 grand a week and Man United are offering him 150 grand a week, what would you do? It's not even about the money. It's about the devaluation. It's about how much you feel valued. so I think that with Manchester United and Tonali and Anderson at the moment it feels that those deals can't be done because we won't pay what needs to be paid because we don't value them at what other people value them and there's no it's like it's like it's like your dream house isn't it it's like your dream house that you've wanted all your life and it comes on the market And then you go, I'm going to offer you this.

24:08And then the estate agent says, yeah, but somebody else has offered a little bit more. And you go, yeah, but I met the owners. They really like me. And they go, yeah, look, they would like to, they would like you to buy the house, but they're not going to sell it cheap to you when someone else is offering it at a better price. And ultimately you'll miss out then. And you might find another house, but will it be your dream house? And I think with United, we still are that football club because it's a business and it is a business. It's not a passion. This is not Man United fans running Man United.

24:41This is a business. This is predominantly owned by American mercenaries who've got no interest in Manchester United Football Club other than making money out of it. Man United is a business and every decision is made from a business point of view. And unfortunately, when somebody says we should sign Tenali or Anderson, there is somebody else saying, yeah, I'd like to sign them, but we're not paying any more than this for them. And that becomes problematic because if there's nobody else, you can probably negotiate it. But if there's somebody else, you're not going to get it done. And look, whether you agree with me that Elliot Anderson and Tenali are worth 250 grand a week, I think they're worth 250 grand a week.

25:24These are, we are replacing Casemiro. We are not replacing Luke Short. We are replacing Casemiro and we need a certain talent to come in and do that. A marquee signing. And a marquee signing deserves 250 grand a week. And if United are not willing to go north of 200, well, we're steeping on that one.

25:47And I think that's where we are with it,

25:49United Stand Team: to be honest with you. Let me just get rid of Joe. He's an idiot. There we go. Bye-bye, Joe. Everyone say bye-bye to Joe. Embermo, Sesko and Rodgers, how would you rate that forward line? No, Tonali is my pick. We should get him, Sasayan. Embermo, Sesko and Rodgers. Well, what happens to Ahmad? What happens to Kunia? What happens to Dorgu? I mean, I don't rate it because there are players there going that I would like to be starting. We don't need Rodgers. Robert's back. He says, point was, should he be fired if none are through him? Says Robert McCormack. No, look, I mean, look, I would have sacked Wilcox at Christmas.

26:31I think sacking Ten Hag and sacking Amrim cost us close to£30 million. In transfer fees, it cost us over half a billion. As director of football or being involved in that, he's cost Man United a lot of money. He's not very good at his job. I'd have sacked him. he's still there because obviously he's got his feet under the table and you know somebody's protecting him there whether it's a Jim Radcliffe or whoever so I don't think he's going to get sacked but ultimately um as a director of football you cannot share the load and I saw I saw a couple of people talking about it today saying it's, you know, it's all done together.

27:16It's all built together. They're all responsible for success. And, you know, they all do it together. No, what a load of shit. I have never heard such crap in all my life. You know, you can't be the boss and then say, we're all in it together. We all succeed and fail together. Because I'd be like, you get paid more money than me. You're the director of football. I'm not. We're not all to you my opinions and then it's your job to decide what happens. It's like being the set piece coach or the midfield coach or the fitness coach or the physio or the assistant coach. The manager can't go, we're all in it together.

27:58We're all in it together. Because you go, no, you've got them. If we're all in it together, then you be the fitness coach and I'll be the manager and then I'll make decisions. The director of football and the CEO, we're not all in it together. They're paid bigger money to make big decisions because in life, not everybody agrees on everything. When you go into a Champions League final like Arsenal tomorrow, Arteta won't sit in the dressing room and go, we're all in it together. Who should play at goalkeeper? Easy. Raya. Who should play at right back? Because Timber's injured. Oh, not so easy now.

28:30He says Mascara. at ease says someone else. No, you have to have a chain of command. And Wilcox, Barada are at the tip of this and they have to make decisions, which is why we didn't sign Sesco first in the summer. Certain people wanted Sesco. We didn't go for Sesco first and that's fine. We ended up with Sesco luckily, but there has to be a chain of command. Would they sell Ahmad if they sign Rogers, says Alan. Ahmad's not going anywhere. I think some people would sell Ahmad, but he's not going anywhere. Green Team, thank you very much for your super chat. He says, if you have a million engine and need a 10p nut to make it work, how much is the nut really worth?

29:12It's a million, otherwise the engine won't work. Same with United midfield, pay the price and make it work. Yeah. You're never going to be successful. This is too low. You're never going to be successful if you you're never going to be successful in competitive sport if you're gonna set parameters on price you won't be successful um because at some point to be successful you have to say we need this we need this it might be a little bit more expensive but we need it and United used to do that. We have done that, and I think we need to do it again. Cheaper to do Rashford's wages than buy Rodgers, says Remy.

29:55And Mark, honestly, Tonali, Fernandez, Edison, Rodgers, and Blahovic is a good window before preseason, says Duke Studio. How much would that cost, do you think? Oh, I don't like that. I do. I'm sorry. I do not like, I had to read it again. I do not like that. Tonali, Fernandez, Edison, Rodgers, and Blahovic. I do not like that. You can't slip Rodgers in And put a good midfield in there And make me like it I do not like I do not like the signing of Rodgers Because there's no fullbacks there So I'm going into next season With the low in Luke Shaw No That for me doesn't work Vlahovic will cost a lot of money as well Duke Studio Vlahovic As a free agent Will want a lot of A signing on fee As will his Agent Still only 26 He earns Bloody hell I can't be right Says here that his weekly salary Is 427 ,000 euros

31:12He's on a reported base salary Of approximately 12 to 13 million euros Per season net Which is around 370 grand a week Fucking hell

31:30he earns a lot of money yeah forget that one duke uh derek says hi mark a potential signing we haven't talked about much for left wing is abdi mentioned by ben jacobs last uh three shows he was with us i think he would be an amazing addition and cheap what do you think i obviously don't think much of it derek because i haven't really listened to anything about that so there's a name to be added into the chat um chad said chad we've done that one as well thank you very much okay let's move on to the next story uh lee berman says i'm worried to nali anderson trumini and maybe bruno gamerez but after that i really don't see any alternatives out there we have to get one of them and peacock says the chain of command has glazes at the top though yeah yeah i mean look you're absolutely right um you're absolutely right on that if i'm if i'm favel and I really want to sign Stiller, which he is a fan of, I've got to get Carrick to agree.

32:26I've got to get Wilcox to agree. I've got to get Barada to agree. Then Sir Jim Madcliffe to agree. And then I've got the Glazers to write the check. It's a very big chain of command at Man United. And, you know, that's why some players just don't make it through. But that's always been the case. I mean, we've had players 10 years ago that United, you know, didn't push forward on and they went on to be good players. Jobs for the boys, Mark. Rogers would be the same, says Ross. And Scott over Fernandes due to homegrown rules, says Rich. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about the homegrown rules.

33:06It doesn't seem to be something that's high on Man United's agenda. I mean, look, talking about Robert McCormack, I remember him talking in previous summers about the homegrown rule. It is still there, but it doesn't seem to be as prominent in Man United's thinking anymore. And I don't really know why. Salah Mohamed says, why would Madrid sell a young, brilliant player like Ciamini? It's like Arsenal selling Saka. And I don't think the board is capable to do that deal. Probably because he knocked out their vice captain. He's not young. He's 26. And they want to buy better players. Doesn't mean they will do, but that could be a reason why.

33:46John United says Rashford has more talent than Gordon, but it feels like attitude, not wages. That's why they'd rather go for Gordon, despite Rashford's higher talent. And Sion says, I've done that one. OK, a couple of, I just saw a chat in there and I'm not going to name the name because I don't want him to get bullied. But somebody in the chat just said, I'd like to sign Liao and Balaba. Funnily enough, I actually do have a couple of updates on this. Um, so first and foremost, um, let's talk about, uh, um, Liao first, the Portuguese winger at AC Milan. They are looking to move him on. Now he's done an interview recently where he was asked about the Premier League and what his thoughts were on the Premier League.

34:29He said, yeah, of course I watch it. My favorite team is Manchester United. Hence what I said yesterday morning The people in the community Who love it when people are desperate to sign for Man United Get the pen and paper out Rio Ferdinand style And say sign him up Couldn't give a shit if Liao supports Man United My postman supports Man United Don't want him to play on the wing I don't care about whether somebody prioritises Man United Or loves Man United I think it's become something probably from the Ineos era, actually. They make a big deal of this and a lot of our fans fall for it. Oh, Belaba's desperate to sign for Man United.

35:14Liao is desperate to sign for Man United. You know, Adam Wharton, who isn't, is desperate to sign Man United. If a story came out from Adam Wharton that he was desperate to sign for Man United, I guarantee you some people would put him ahead of Anderson and Tonali straight away. It's a smokescreen. I don't care whether you're desperate to play for Man United. I don't care if you support Man United when you were a kid. How good are you at football and how consistent are you? How many boxes do you tick that are relevant? Because supporting Man United as a kid or wanting to come to Man United doesn't bother me.

35:49Are you a consistent performer? Are you somebody that's going to make us better? Are you, you know, capable of playing for Man United? Have you got that mentality? and I think when it comes down to Liao, this is a player that can't even establish himself in an AC Milan side or a Portuguese side. So I don't see, sorry, I don't see, all I see is a big risk. And look, if we sign him, as I always say, I'll always give a player a chance, but he supports Man United, let's sign him up. I don't care. Memphis Depay was a massive Man United fan, remember? Oh, I've supported Man United since I was a kid.

36:29Used to do Instagram posts of retro Man United kids. Still does. Still people say, oh, I love Memphis. He wasn't good enough. Didn't have the right minerals to be a Man United player. So do I want Liao at Man United? No. I don't think he's good enough. I don't think there's a big queue from top clubs in Europe to sign Liao. So I don't know why we would. So for me, it's a no. And the fact that he supports Man United doesn't do it for me. I'm afraid. Do you think Anderson to City is basically done, says Johnny? No, no. You know, you know, sometimes I'm a little bit stubborn and I've always said I have a feeling that Anderson to Man United can happen.

37:12Reminds me a little bit of Hazard all those years ago, if anyone can remember. Hazard, before social media really kicked off, spent about three weeks flirting between Man City, Man United and Chelsea. and it worked because he sort of flirted on social on on twitter for three weeks and made you think he was going here there and everywhere and then he went to chelsea um which chelsea actually cheated to get by the way remember remember that remember chelsea that that bloody thing that happened about a month ago hazard was one of them players so literally chelsea i don't know what they got for it they self-reported so they didn't get a points deduction basically Chelsea admitted that they'd paid extra money to agents to get players and Hazard was one of them and the Premier League completely and utterly missed the boat on that and went oh well you self-reported it's fine like that was Man City Man United and Hazard and Chelsea for Hazard who went on to be one of the Premier League's best players of that era and he's in them papers as a player that Chelsea paid illegal fees to agents for.

38:24Oh, it doesn't matter. It does fucking matter. I remember that summer. He'd have been bloody good for us. Anyway, I'm not bitter. But I always held out hope that we would get Hazard until he was holding up a Chelsea shirt. So I will hold up hope with Anderson, but it's not looking great, let's be honest. Mas Rauwi says I don't know your postman's got a wicked first step Liao had a great A game but generally goes missing says Robert yeah he's not the right sort of player for Man United yeah too inconsistent Shane Cook that Welsh guy says hope we don't sign another big team reject who couldn't make it in their team and Alan Noonan says do you have anyone that they would sell outside the usual suspects Mark thanks for all your work team teamwork Hard work as well.

39:11Thank you, Alan. Hope you're having a good day. Not a smurf. Thank you very much for your super chat. Peacock says, I've heard your postman's good in the box. Do you think Anderson is basically done, says Johnny? Okay, we've done that one. Look, I think beyond potentially Xerxes and Agate and the usual suspects of people like Inanna and Rashford, I don't think we're going to sell anybody else, which is a good point. It's all about incomings, but actually where's the ruthlessness you know Maguire shouldn't have been given a contract in my opinion Deleuwe we should be cashing in on should do we should be doing whatever we can to get rid of Shaw and Mount but then again maybe that's why we're not bothered about homegrown players Shaw and Mount are both homegrown aren't they and they're not going anywhere we have a big chain of command and it's very slow and inefficient and with a lot of people who are inexperienced do not have enough expertise no wonder we look like we did there at times says emily derry yeah we are very very slow i mean look this edison deal should be done it's friday now it's another week gone isn't it we took a week to do carrick's contract edison could have been done a week ago yeah somebody just said how is mount homegrown um the fact that he played for england um krista says your postman always delivers in the red shirt loving these i think we should by Tonali, Edison, Keode and Truffaut, says Krista.

40:34I'd love Truffaut. I definitely would. Razzler says, is Mark, sorry, hi Mark, is it Tonali and Chumini or one or the other? Oh no, it'd be one or the other. Yeah, we're not signing two out of Tonali, Chumini and Anderson. It'll be one or the other. He also says Fernandes is a must. I'd prefer Scott, but I'd be happy with Fernandes or Scott because ultimately when it comes down to Balaba, also in The Athletic, Laurie Whitwell was saying that let me get it for you here um is there interest in belabor there was strong interest in belabor a few months ago but it's been a lot cooler since that point united could look past this season and different factors that went into it maybe brighton is still demanding a significant amount of money which united doesn't match united's value he definitely has been somebody they continue to monitor but maybe it's gone a little bit uh different way it doesn't feel as warm as it did that's good news um that's very good news because we're starting to hear more and more with um belabor that it's gone a little bit quiet which for me is a huge huge positive because I think Belaba is too much of a risk When it comes to United I think we've got to We've got to look elsewhere You know, as was said there Fernandes or Scott Or Chumini Or Tanale If Edison's coming in There can't be another

42:25risk, I suppose. And everybody's a risk, but I think if you get Edison and Belaba, there's a lot of risk there. If you get Edison, Fernandes, Scott, Chumini, Tonali, you know, I think it looks a lot better. Lewis says, I feel like the priority in this window is midfield, but I genuinely feel the fullback scenario is also important. Otherwise, it feels as if we are taking two steps forward and one step back. Lewis, I mean, look, I don't know how many of you are new. Please do subscribe if you are. We're live every morning at 10 o 'clock, every night at 8 o 'clock, and we have a 2 o 'clock show for you as well.

42:59I think that when you look at what we were talking about probably since March, Everybody knows the midfield for Manchester United is a big area of improvement. Absolutely. But the thinking man person talks about the fullbacks. Absolutely. And I absolutely agree. It's maybe something we're going to park for next summer. but I think and I think it might be next summer you know United do tend to leave something a year before solving it the attack needed sorting not last summer, the summer before the midfield needed sorting not this summer, last summer so maybe they're going to go full backs for next year which just shows you the ambition of the football club we want to win the league by 2028 but we don't solve problems so I think that I think full backs is an area that needs to be sorted.

44:04But, you know, it's not where it should be. Hotamita. I need to show you the Hotamita. Thank you very much, Jason. I feel like the priority and I've done that one from Lewis. What about the defence? Marks as Pranay exactly fits in with that. Ian Chanley, welcome to the Members Club. Thank you very much. I'm just trying to find a super chat here, which I thought I'd read, but Fraz is saying we missed it. So here it is. Should go in for DeMarco and Ryerson. Both good players, but both over 27. So probably not going to happen. Okay. If you stayed till the end, I did it on purpose. 13 ,000 legends get to see the updated Hotometer.

44:42So if you don't know what the Hotometer is, it's something we have on the morning show. It's meant to change more than it is, but we're still very early in the transfer window. So what the Hotometer does is it ranks what we think are the seven most likely transfers for Man United at this moment in time, and it gives them a heat score. If it's 10, it's done. If it's nine, it's hotter than the sun and it's getting very close. So let's have a look at the hotter meter as it stands, new and updated today. There it is. So as you can see, Edison is nine and is very, very hot at the moment. So we're giving him a nine out of 10, effectively a 90 % chance.

45:24we've then got Fernandes and Anderson at seven now some people would say oh why is Anderson so high because ultimately although he could be a nine on a City hot meter which they haven't got because they haven't got any fan channels that anybody watches um I'd probably say nine to City but we are in the race so I'll give it a seven it's not we are in the race for Anderson he's our priority So I think he's got a score high, but is it getting cooler? We'll find out. Fernandes, look, I think a seven is fair for him at the moment. We're definitely looking at him. He's definitely in consideration. Chumini I'd put as a six.

46:01Again, dream target. We really like him, but there's a lot of uncertainty about that. Is he going to leave? Are El Madrid going to keep him? We've got to wait on the presidential elections as well. So I'd probably say a six. But Labour, I'd like to put down to a one, but I'd say a five at the moment, 50-50 chance. And then Rodgers and Scott, you could put them on a five, but I think at the moment Scott could sign a new contract. So let's keep him on a four at the moment. And Rodgers, as much as I think Carrick and co. do like Morgan Rodgers, I think also Arsenal are looking at him and especially with Alvarez probably going to Barcelona.

46:42I feel like Arsenal might move for Rodgers as well, which makes it doesn't matter whether Wilcox or Carrick or Favell like Rodgers. ultimately they'll go to the money men and say we really want rogers and they will go well we're not paying what arsenal are paying and that'll be the end of that which is what's happening with sonali and which is what is happening with um anderson why is sonali not there because i i personally have made a decision there is a chain of command and i have decided that sonali is not going to be on there which is what a chain of command does i have not put sonali on there because i think you know i'd have priced him out i think they've said we're not we're not we don't want to pay for it so until i think tonali feels like a fan theory i don't think it's a theory that the club followed if i'm being honest um any updates on fernandez says razzler nothing uh other than we're interested and we are interested but nothing uh more than that at the moment i thought about rogers and the fact that he's benching someone if he joins don't really have a problem with that like arsenal with as he can work i don't know says elliot no no no no no No, there's nothing wrong with signing Morgan Rodgers and benching somebody if there aren't any other issues in the team.

47:55If we had two good fullbacks and we had a good midfield and a good backup striker and we had£100 million to spend, I'd say go and get Morgan Rodgers. Why not? Build the squad out. But don't build the squad out before you build the first team 11 out, you know? Hope we swap Enzo Fernandez for Chumy. And this is Max. The Chelsea stand is back. There we go. OK, thank you, everybody, for tuning in this morning. Lots tuning in, as always. Lots going on. I am live with you again at 8 o 'clock tonight. We do have a 2 o 'clock show for you as well. Make sure you're subscribing to the channel if you haven't done that already.

48:31We're very close to 266 ,000. I just need to update that. I hope you'll have a great day, evening, whatever you're doing, and we'll catch you later. Stay safe. Take care. And who knows? We could get a here we go on Edison today, but it is United, so it'll probably be another few weeks yet. I did say before the World Cup, thanks for watching. Explaining