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1:19That's right, free at ZipRecruiter.com slash zip. That's ZipRecruiter.com slash zip. ZipRecruiter.com slash zip. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge, and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news as the Edison deal gets done and talks on new players' ramp-up. Who will be next? Manchester United. Will it be Fernandes? Will it be Cermini? Will it be Lewis Hall? Remember, we got Ben Jacobs on the show at two o 'clock. He's the one who's been talking up the Lewis Hall deal. We'll find out about him, Fernandes and Scott at two o 'clock. But we've got a lot to get into on the show this morning, Fabrizio Romano promising more signings.

2:00You know what? It's good the Edisons deal's done, but look at bloody Real Madrid. Look at Barcelona. They're on fast play. Real Madrid have got Canate and Dumfries done. Barcelona have got Anthony Gordon. They're looking to do Alvarez and Brado Silva as well. So look, you know, as grateful as I am that United have got the Edison deal basically done, we still need to keep that foot down and we need to keep working on more deals. So lots to get into. Get your reaction in as well. Why didn't you do a live reaction to Edison last night? I've done many a live reaction to deals in the past. I've got to be honest.

2:32I just didn't feel like it. I mean, what was it going to do that I didn't do in the pre-record? I mean, I said everything I needed to say. I'm just happy we got the Edison deal done before he threw out to the World Cup. Talking about deals, I just want to shout out Manscaped as well. We are sponsored by Manscaped on the morning show and you will see me on the next show. I will not have such a big beard because I'm going to use this. Manscaped is the men's grooming brand trusted by over 13 million men worldwide. And with Father's Day coming up, or you just might want to gift yourself something.

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4:48Lots to get into. We're going to talk about Fernandes, first of all, because apparently Man United have now increased their talks, escalated their talks. Yeah, that's what we're doing. But there's a bit of a trap with Edison that we need to talk about. look sorry with Fernandez also a little bit on Chumini Lewis Hall and a few other bits as well get your comments in as always please do share the video got nearly 5 ,000 in here already Tonali next says Jono watched the show last night I don't think Tonali happens look Edison here we go last night Ornstein actually beat Romano to it by four minutes to be fair so it's an Ornstein bomber Dylan says the deal is clearly a very good deal there's two things to be said about Edison One, that was a joke online I heard About at least we've got the deal done Before he goes to the World Cup He's not going to the World Cup It was sarcasm Two, I've heard people say For another£20 million you'd get Alex Scott Who is four years younger English and has loads more potential You're not wrong We're paying£35 million for Edison Who is 27 when he comes to Man United He's 26 at the moment Never played in the Premier League doesn't play for Brazil, is a big red flag, another£20 million would have got us Scott.

6:10You're right. You're right. I mean, I'm quite positive about the Edison deal, but to those people who aren't, you're not wrong. Another£20 million would have got us an Alex Scott. Probably they would, but we don't know what's coming next. It's like watching a film with a twist at the start and going, oh i don't know whether anyone watched that apex film um eric banners in it you're not in it very long and you sort of like go well he's the star of the film um and but you go well i don't know what's going to come next and what comes next is quite a decent film so it's like we don't know what's coming next with edison it is a bit of a cliffhanger which also has a very good start I just realised the film Cliffhanger I always thought it was somebody I always thought the name of the film was really because of He Climbs Cliffs but actually there is a cliffhanger Cliffhanger also means a little bit like that was a shock there actually is a shock at the start of Cliffhanger it's a play on words, I've just realised that I'm a simpleton sometimes that's why I can relate to thick people and intelligent people but the point is, I think Edison is a bit of a cliffhanger because we don't know what's coming next.

7:26And absolutely true that£20 million on top of£35 million would have got us Scott, maybe even£15 million. We might have got Scott from Bournemouth for£45 million plus add-ons, which is only£10 million more than we've played for Edison. So yeah, I completely agree. Edison's got a lot of work to do to prove that he's the right player. And there are definitely people who aren't happy with it already. I'm not one of those people. What I would say is I've seen a lot of journalists like TNT journalists who cover Italian football, you know, American journalists who cover Italian football. And they're all writing what a great deal Edison is.

8:04One of them said he's like Pac-Man. He swallows up balls, which means he's a midfielder. He just is very energetic. Great. All this stuff is absolutely brilliant. Right. But tell me why Arsenal don't want him. Liverpool don't want him. Man City don't want him. Real Madrid don't want him. PSG don't want him. Bayern Munich don't want him. Barcelona don't want him. And I think that's the point, isn't it?

8:29This Edison deal, we just don't know yet. So I would just embrace it and go, let's give him a chance. Let's see what's going to happen. Because for every positive, there's potentially a negative. It could be a really, really brilliant deal. It could be a really lazy, cheap, stupid deal. Honestly, Man United have been looking at Edison for three years I read an article this morning that Carrick and Wilcox decided in April That Edison was the Casemiro replacement And I thought, bollocks What a load of shit We've been looking at Edison for three years He's been on our books for three years Carrick and Wilcox didn't discover Edison because he was already there And he's not a Casemiro replacement, is he?

9:11He's hopefully a member of four midfielders that's going to massively improve our options next season when we're fighting in the Premier League, the Champions League and domestic trophies. I'd leave it at that. That's why I didn't go live because I knew it could go... And the reality is nobody's got the answer. Nobody's got the answer. And as Dean Cook says, if he's better than Agate, that's fine. And that might be the simplicity of it. But I think with Edison, I wouldn't deep it too much. It really does come down to what's next. What's the next deal? And that's what I want to talk about this morning because there's some interesting stuff coming in.

9:49Fabrizio Romano, Edison will only be the first midfield signing at Man United. At least another one has been planned. Casemiro and Agate to leave, so Man United will add one more. Could be two under certain circumstances. What? Is that really from Fabrizio? Is that a fake account? No, 27 million followers. I remember when he started coming on the United stand and he had about half a million. I'm not saying we took him up to 27 million, but wow. Anyway, I don't like this talk and I've heard it a couple of times this morning as well. Romano, Jamie Jackson, both talking about Edison being Man United's first signing and another one is planned potentially too.

10:39We've just got to push that because if United think they're signing two midfielders and one of them's Edison, piss off. Absolutely piss off. That is a disgrace. That cannot be. As TPR says, could be two is absolute insanity. Has to be two. So look, I ain't going to believe any of that. I know it's coming in from Fabrizio and he is one of the two best journalists in transfers summers in the world. but I'm not having Man United to add one more. It could be two under certain conditions. What does that even mean? It could be two under certain conditions. It has to be two. The only conditions I can think of are if Agate stays.

11:25So you're telling me next year if Agate stays, it would be Maynou, Agate, Edison and one more. Piss off. That is uninspiringly shit. It has to be goodbye Agate, hello Edison, and two more signings. And I think that's what will happen. And I hope that's going to happen. But a news show is there. We can't just... I absolutely remember this when our source told us about DeLapp and we sort of broke it first. I didn't want to do it, but that's not how it works. You have to put the news out there. And Romano has said that, so we have to put it out there. He has said Man United will get at least one more, maybe two in certain conditions.

12:04So maybe it will only be one more. But I'll tell you what, Edison's a bad deal if it's only one more. Edison's a good deal if it's two more and they're better than him. Simple as that, isn't it? Well, that's how I think of it. Rob Dawson, ESPN says, with a deal, there's a lot to go through this morning, so get your comments in. If this is stoking up any opinions, get them in. We'll read them out. Rob Dawson, ESPN, been on the United stand in the past. Good journalist says, with a deal for Edison agreed, United are set to step up their interest in West Ham midfielder Fernandes. Sources have told that United have already made contact with West Ham about a potential deal for the 21-year-old who is expected to leave the London Stadium after relegation to the Championship.

12:46Now, some of you might say, well, that's not really anything new. It is because Edison, we were talking about this yesterday morning, Edison hadn't signed. Where are we now? Edison has signed for Man United. I know it's not going to be official until July, but he is basically a Man United player now, Edison. Unless he fails a medical in early July, he's a Man United player. So with Fernandes, and look, we've got Ben Jacobs on at two o 'clock. I'm really looking forward to that show. Do not miss the two o 'clock show because it's Ben Jacobs. And to be fair, Sam C, who's worked with us in the past, who've really led on the Lewis Hall story for a couple of weeks now.

13:21So we've got Ben Jacobs on at two o 'clock. We'll find out what's going on with Lewis Hall. We'll find out what's going on with Fernandes. We'll find out what's going on with Scott and Chiumini. But Patrick Lynch has said something that DSG in the chat, one of our members says spot on 100 % Patrick. We'll read that out in a minute. In relation to Fernandes, what I can tell you, and I know this from somebody from another club, it's nothing to do with Man United, but I do do that as football. We've had some good stuff in relation to that. West Ham ain't in a rush to do a deal with Man United. They're not.

13:56They're like, Man United really like Fernandes. So do Arsenal. so do a couple of other Premier League clubs. He is not... What I was told is Fernandes, and I've sort of... It's from an agent, right? And it's not Fernandes' agent. Fernandes is not a secret source that Man United have figured out. Everybody knows about Fernandes in the Premier League. Like, every club knows he is a gem at West Ham. Like, everybody knows it. So you've probably got at least three Premier League clubs that would like to go for him. That's without going into the continent. And, you know, good news spreads fast in the football world.

14:38And agents represent multiple players and work for agencies. So West Ham, Fernandes, they're in a good position. They're not in a good position. They've just been relegated from the Premier League. But in relation to they've not been relegated to the Premier League from the Premier League with a load of shit players. They have two or three players that are actually valuable. So West Ham's situation is, yeah, you're interested. Yeah, he'd like to go to you. But guess what? There are bigger clubs and clubs like you that are interested as well. So what's your offer? Because if you're talking to us now, put the offer on the table and maybe we'll take it and we'll say to everyone else, we're not interested.

15:17But right here, right now, other clubs are interested. So what's your offer? Man United don't work like that. Man United don't work like that. So my information from an agent is that Man United do like Fernandes and Fernandes does like Man United. And if Man United slap£65 million on the table today, they may get that deal done tomorrow. But Man United aren't going to do that because Manchester United don't do that. They don't overpay what they feel is overpaying. so they're not going to swoop in and get that deal done even though delaying might make them miss out so the situation with Fernandes is United do like him where he ranks ahead is he the number one player they want?

16:03probably but to do this deal you have to do what Liverpool have done in the past or Man City have done in the past or even Arsenal have done in the past you have to lock this down player side, club side and fee side and we haven't done that. So I think with regards to, sorry, let me just get rid of Fergie United 87. I suppose you think you're funny, mate. You're gone. Let me get rid of you. Okay. Yeah, so essentially, this is going to come down to now how quickly we move. Now, if you look at what Real Madrid have done, Canate signed free transfer, Dumfries signed, release calls paid. they've gone and got two players in really really quickly and they'll go and get more we'll talk about that in a minute man united need to get the next one done quickly people think it's early in the window it's not we need to probably get minimum five good signings in we worked on edison for about two weeks he'll be coming in in july if this next deal takes two weeks, you're heading towards mid to late June.

17:14So doing a deal every two weeks, we'll have five done by early August. You know, when you think about it like that, there's some people running around going, oh, United are working, you know, we're doing so well. We're moving so quick. It's so refreshing. But you think, well, hold on. We're not moving that quick. We're not moving slow, but we're not moving that quick. If we do a deal every two weeks, so Edison really started two weeks ago. Let's say Fernandes from today, two weeks, mid-June, that's two deals. Next deal, two weeks, that's July, that's three. Next deal, mid-July, four. Next deal, start of August, five.

17:48Well, we're not going to do a deal every two weeks, are we? So we're moving at a good pace, but we're not moving beyond reasonable. So I think that, and look, as Peter says, we need more than five. But I'd just be wary of Fernandes because you can get good information from clubs and sources, but you can also get good information from agents who may or may not be directly involved in that particular deal, but can give you insight into how a deal will work. And effectively, I think it's safe to say that Man United do like Fernandes and would like to sign him. And I think it's definitely safe to say that he would like to sign for Manchester United.

18:34And there are things that can be done. Like Fernandes can say to West Ham, I only want Man United. Like Mbwemo did. He can do that. But in a way, why would you do that? Because if West Ham say to him, well, you only want Man United, but they won't pay what we want. They want to negotiate down for the next two months to 50 million quid. We can't do a deal at that. So you'll fool it. We will sell to Manchester United, but that price needs to be£60 million or above. If you close the door to everyone else and Man United won't go to£60 million, this is going to take a very long time and it's going to get very, very bad.

19:13You're actually better off not closing the door to Man United, letting other people come in and bid and hope that they will actually bid the same. So we don't know how it's going to play. I think some people think, oh, if Fernandes says he only wants Man United, Arsenal and everyone else will piss off, which they probably will. but it could take bloody ages to get the deal done then because Man United might go, he only wants us and we're not paying your fee, which is what we did in Burmo, but we still paid 65 million. So I think that in an ideal world, if we want to stay quick, we need to offer 60 very, very quickly and see what West Ham do.

19:50United don't normally do that. So let's wait and see. I think there's a lot of people out there professing that United are going to get this deal done really, really quickly. But West Ham want big money. What would I pay for Fernandes?

20:05I don't know. What would you pay for Fernandes? I don't know. I don't know what I would pay for Fernandes. I mean, look, I like that comment somebody said earlier about Edison, £35 million. Add another 15 on it, you get Scott. I would have done that. I would have done that. I would have loved to get Scott and Fernandes. I also don't like the idea of three midfield signings, none of which being English. What are we doing with this homegrown stuff? I don't know. Greg says 60 million is fair. Sam says 65. Harry says 50. Rohit says 55 to 60. Kian says 40 max. Well, that's out of the window, mate. YRDX says 35.

20:45You do realise they paid 40 for him a year ago. I think 55. I agree with T-Priv. I think 55. Sanal, one of our members, says 50. I think if we can get 50 plus significant add-ons that would be good I think 55 is probably about reasonable but I wouldn't be putting many add-ons on it you could do 50 plus 15 in add-ons or you could do 55 plus 10 but I mean I think they're going to want 60 to be honest so yeah but i do think that i do think oh just by the way as well i do think in relation to edison we did overpay i said that on the video last night 35 million pounds plus 4 million in add-ons for a player with one year left on his contract who's 27 next month who isn't a brazilian international and has only ever played for atalanta i think 35 million pounds with one year left on your contract is a bit expensive because if you think about it, if he's got three years left on his contract, what are they saying?

21:53He's a£60 million player. I'm going to fucking laugh. £60 million. I mean, if you pay£35 million for a player with one year left on their contract, they've got to be at least£50 to£60 million with two or three years left on their contract he is not that so i think we have overpaid a bit for edison but the flip side of that is is 35 million pounds ever going to be a flop is xerxi a flop and i was having this argument with with one of my mates last night we're having a whatsapp back and forward about half 11 and they were saying edison's a load of shit 35 million pounds is a rip-off and i said but you're never a flop at 35 million and they were like what are you on about i said no come on we all you know i've played the game, you know as well, I'll say it to you lot.

22:42We've played the game. You're never a flop at 35 million. You are, but not to the extent of, oh, look at that flop. Xerxes a flop. No one ever talks about it. He is. We paid 35 million pounds for Xerxes. He's done nothing. But Mason Mount at 55 million, that's a flop because that's more money. I don't think you're ever really a flop at 35 million. So yeah, look, we probably paid, overpaid for Edison by about 10 million, but he'll never be a flop. And also the flip side of that is if you do well at 35 million, you're a bargain. So, you know, if Xerxes had scored 20 goals a season for the last two years, he'd be a bargain.

23:22He'd be like, oh my God, we only paid 35 million. So I think, look, with Edison, I know we're going back to that and I want to move on, but with Edison, we probably have overpaid a bit. There are a few red flags. It is a bit of a weird deal, I must admit, in relation to it's not what we normally do. But if he flops, will he really be a flop at 35 million? And if he does well, he hasn't got to do amazingly well to be a bit of a bargain. So that's the way I look at it anyway. Inu says, we overpaid, but it's still nowhere near Mount, Maguire, Sancho and more. Exactly. Daniel Thompson says, hope everyone's doing well.

23:59They broke their own maximum 26 rule. Their rule's like a bowling ball to a poppadom. They can't use that excuse anymore. No time to ways need to move on to the next midfielder must be top quality no excuses well in a way have they broke their own um whether it's slots or live dealers spinquest.com has the fun and action you're looking for with spinquest exclusives blackjack roulette baccarat and even live dice with craps and bubble craps the games never stop so you don't have to and right now new users get $30 coin packs for just$10. Play now at spinquest.com. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino.

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25:59So technically, they probably haven't broken their 26 barrier signing players 26 or under because I guarantee you he will be holding up a Man United shirt before the 7th of July in which case he's 26. So in a way, yeah, I know it's a technicality but in a way we haven't signed a player over 26. I don't think that will be the case. But yeah, you know. What's the latest on Chumini? I'll talk about that in a moment. Athletic are saying, Beth just said me this, Manchester United are keeping a close eye on Morgan Rodgers. Both Michael Carrick and Jason Wilcox have a good relationship with the player.

26:35The question is whether United have enough resources given other transfer needs. I mean, look, when it comes to Morgan Rodgers, we've spoken about it a lot. We can certainly get Beth and Ben to talk about it on the two o 'clock show. If we're going to spend, if we've gone cheap on Edison to spend£80 million on Morgan Rodgers, I would question the direction of the football club, to be honest with you. I don't know why you'd go cheap on the midfield to buy yet another attacker. It doesn't make any sense. I do like Morgan Rodgers, but I think that£80 million minimum is what Morgan Rodgers is going to cost.

27:13Look, maybe we've got a board that just loves buying attackers. Real Madrid used to do this years ago, didn't they? Oh, we want another attacker. We want another attacker. So for once, I'd like to see Man United work on multiple concrete deals as gamer. I'm going to catch up on some of these stuff. Then we're going to talk about Lewis Hall and Chiamini. So let me just catch up because apparently there was a brilliant comment from Patrick Lynch in here. And I've also seen Robert McCormack's done a super chat as well. In fact, here he is. Robert McCormack. Here we go. I'll take Hall. But the fact that Chelsea were happy to sell him and how doesn't trust him defensively worries me.

27:46However, in time, he could be a future. Sure. Yeah, I mean, look, we will find out what's going on with Lewis Hall at two o 'clock because we've got Ben Jacobs on and he was the one who said on the United stand two weeks ago, keep an eye on that. What I want to know, and I'll get Beth to ask the question, will be answered at two o 'clock. But look, Lewis Hall is way better than Luke Shaw going forward. And when you are Man United or Liverpool or Arsenal or Man City, your fullbacks need to be part of the attack. When you're at Everton or Crystal Palace, your fullbacks need to be part of the defence.

28:20What I mean by that is, it's like a balancing scales, isn't it? What do you want your fullback to be? You want him to be good at both, but what do you want him to be good at? Do you want him to be better defensively or better offensively? Luke Shaw is definitely better defensively, so much so he barely goes over the halfway line. We need fullbacks. When you're Man United, you get a lot of low blocks. You've got a lot of expectation to attack. We need fullbacks that can attack. Luke Shaw can't do that. Lewis Hall can. I personally think Truffaut is the value, but I've not heard anything about him.

28:50I would say, Robert, and I don't know what your thoughts are, I personally, I really like Lewis Hall. I really do like Lewis Hall, and I'd be over the moon if we get him, and I think he's the popular choice in the fan base. And he's homegrown, which is a positive. But part of me would like Truffaut. I think he's, you know, Lewis Hall, like you say, has played for Chelsea, he's played for Newcastle. and, you know, Truffaut's played for Bournemouth. So it almost feels like, sometimes I feel like, you know, you get Cunha from Wolves, you get Embermo from Brentford, you get Ronaldo from Sporting, you get Rooney from Everton.

29:27It's the step-up player, they're ours. And then you get the players that come in from other big clubs, like Mason Mount. I don't really feel Mason Mount is a Man United player. So I probably would prefer, well, I wouldn't prefer Truffaut. I just wouldn't mind that as well. Edison should be tier three, 50 to 60 million for tier two and 80 to 90 for tier one. I like that SJW. Tony here, says Tony from Sarawak. It would be great to get Scott and Anderson after Edison. Pray for this, Mark. Yeah, I mean, I would love that. I would love that. I've got nothing to add on Anderson. We spoke about it briefly last night.

30:07It looks like Forrest want a lot of money that Man City don't want to pay. And it looks like Anderson wants to focus on the World Cup, which is good for us. which reminds me I started my World Cup career modes on Monday with England it didn't go well 4 o 'clock today Portugal Bruno Goldbridge managing Portugal through all the games hopefully to the World Cup so check that out at 4 o 'clock on my channel Morning Mark personally I don't understand the clamouring for a left winger I think it's bottom of the pile in importance 3 midfielders 2 full backs then a centre back then a striker says Jack you see I don't thanks for being a member for 75 months Jack I don't think we need a centre back for me the priorities These are three midfielders, a left back, a backup striker, a left winger, a right back and then a centre back.

30:55What about Tom Heaton signing a new contract? Tom Heaton is like the gate at Carrington. You know, if you haven't got it, there's chaos and it will always be there. I think Tom Heaton signing a new contract is our third choice goalkeeper. It's a bit like Scott Carson at Man City, isn't it? You need these types of people, really good around the dressing room, never going to play. But in terrible scenarios, you might actually need them. So, you know, your third choice goalkeeper is never going to be Alisson or Rhea, is it? You just need people like that, you know. What about Inanna, says Christian?

31:36I saw a story yesterday about Inanna, just very quickly. um and honor is coming back for pre-season um but there is no future at manchester united so he will walk in and he will annoy everybody because it's like oh fuck you know um but he ain't gonna he's not gonna play is he so worst worst case scenario he sits on the bench earning 125 grand a week and we never use him. Best case scenario, he gets loaned out again, we cover off the wages and, you know, well, not best case scenario, somebody pays for him, you know, but yeah, I think he'll be on loan. Chavez says, do you think Mount as a centre midfield is our fallback if we miss a target?

32:19Mate, if we rely on Mason Mount as one of our four midfielders next season, yeah, seriously, Seriously, that's like going on holiday in a heatwave with a pair of swimming trunks that are made of chocolate. You're going to get arrested because they're going to melt. It's going to look like a dirty protest and everyone's going to see your bits. It's absolutely ridiculous. And you've only got yourself to blame. So if you want Mason Mount to play in the midfield for Man United next season, don't come crying when it goes wrong and it looks like you've shit yourself. because it would be absolute stupidity and anybody that makes that decision deserves no sympathy when it goes wrong because it will go wrong.

33:07Absolutely. Emily Derry says, I still haven't got to this Patrick chat. I worry which, sorry, Emily, I'm not disrespecting you. Yours could be better. I worry which we get stories about prohibitive prices for Anderson and Tonali that we're taking ourselves out of a tier one midfielder one by one, which if they don't, they may as well sack Carrick now. Look, Emily, the great thing about you and this fan base is that, and I always say this about the transfer window, there's very little point getting overly stressed about it. I think when you lose big games during the season, it can mess you up for a few days.

33:42In a transfer window, I would say take a deep breath. I just realised actually, everybody who's watching here, make sure you smash a like because we have got a new updated hotter meter that I haven't shown you. Pratt Bridge. I'll show you that in a minute. But I don't disagree with Emily. Maybe we are taking ourselves out of the Anderson deal and the Tonali deal because we don't want to overpay and the Chermini deal because Real Madrid don't want to sell and the Bruno Gormárez deal because he's too old. And then you're like, well, we couldn't get any of the tier ones, so we're going to get Belaber now.

34:15The issue with that, Emily, is if United don't want to buy decent midfielders because they don't want to spend, fine. If they want to play the PR game and spin people to make it feel like it's okay, fine. But at the end of the window, every Man United fan will give the window a mark out of 10. And if it's five or below, it's a shit window. And even better than that, when the season starts, those mistakes will be exploited by other teams and we won't be back in Europe in a year's time. So I'm quite relaxed about the transfer window. If Wilcox and co. want to manipulate this fan base again, oh, we can't afford Tonani, we can't get Anderson, we can't get Chiamini, then, you know, next season when it all goes wrong, it will be on them.

34:59You can't hide in a transfer window when it hits the end of the window and your transfer window isn't very good. So we'll have to wait and see, won't we? I honestly call me deluded. I still feel that we will get a tier one Chiamini, Tonani, Anderson. I believe we'll get a tier two Scott Fernandez and obviously we've already got Edison I actually feel we might get a left back I need to know a little bit more but I think we might I think we should sell Mount as well says Razzler try and get Scott would be difficult to sell him due to high wages alone might be the best option Mason Mount's not going anywhere um he's basically 20 26 as Phil Jones isn't he I don't know how we've done that you get you finally get rid of Phil Phil Jones and then you bring another one in but it ain't going anywhere the only way we can say if the Anderson deal is good is if we go and sign Scott Fernandez and Chumini Anderson Tonali he isn't a starter says Rajaf I agree we already bought a South American player says Kim so Wilcox wanted DeLapp and wants Belaber Favell got a sesco wants Chumini and wants Lewis Hall guess who's who's boss says Andre and Rios says I don't get the hype on Anderson just one good season I I would sign Fernandes and Scott.

36:11Both are better and their stats are very similar to Anderson's as Rios. Rios, I don't have a problem with anybody saying they don't rate Anderson. That's absolutely fine. Where I will step in and say the one season thing is a myth. And I think it's perpetuated by Beliebers who try and pretend that Beliebers is still a good signing because he had one good season as well. Elliot Anderson had more than one good season. He was already in the England squad at the start of this season. So he can't have had one good season, can he? He's had a very good season this year, but he had a good season the season before, which is why he was in the England squad.

36:44Feels like we'll get Fernandes and Scott as more the window goes on. The big three want don't look possible and the marquee will be a left winger with Hall for about 50 million, says Naveen. Yeah, so Naveen's sort of saying it will be Edison, Scott, Fernandes, a left back and Rodgers. I think if you do that, though, if the biggest outlay is Rodgers, is that not a failure on the midfield? because Casemiro's left. Surely your marquee signing has to be the Casemiro replacement. You can't go and buy another attacker we don't really need and go, ta-da, that's our big signing. I'd be disappointed with Scott, Fernandez and Edison.

37:22I would. It might work, but I would be disappointed. I think you've got to get something big. 55 million for Scott, who isn't in the England squad, says Rory. Well, he might be cheaper, Rory. He might be cheaper. Slazy says, I fear Edison looks good because the Serie A is slower and less intense. I remember seeing clips of Xerxi running through the defenders on YouTube before he came and was super excited to Slaze. Yeah, but this is what I mean, Slaze. You've got all these. I'll read you a couple of these out, actually. This was from The Athletic. At his very best, Edison is like Pac-Man. He gobbles up the ground and has multiplying effects on his team.

37:55Man United are getting a new midfielder and it could be one of the best finds of the season. That was one journalist saying that. There was another one I had as well. Oh, God, what's going on here? Let's have a look. Here it was. I've seen loads of these this morning.

38:22Where's another one? Edison has been a big part of Atalanta's success. He's ready as he's ever going to be to step up into the Premier League. He brings a big work rate, experience, physicality, versatility, good passing range, technical ability, proven mentality. There is no such thing as a dead cert, but, you know, he does bring a lot to Manchester United now. There's a lot of people talk about Edison and how good he is, Slaze. But the reality is, you're right. There's a massive difference between Serie A and the Premier League. There's a massive difference between the Bundesliga and the Premier League.

39:00I mean, look at Frimpong and Verts in the Bundesliga and look at them in the Premier League. So, you know, I think that with Edison, as I said, it's a cliffhanger. It's the start of a movie that we haven't seen the rest of yet. And it could be a really good movie. And it could be, but it could be a stinker. We're just going to have to wait and see. I would argue with anybody, you cannot say this is a good signing. You cannot say it's a bad signing. it's one of those signings a little bit like when we bought Dan James it reminds me of Dan James when we bought him you sort of look at it and go that could be a brilliant bit of business or that could be a bad bit of business we're just going to have to wait and see would you rather have Edison and a top tier midfielder or have Edison, Scott and Fernandes I want three mate Casper and I wouldn't be happy with either of them if I'm being honest Rory says picked him in April but willing to sit back and let him go to Atletico in Jan I smell bullshit Rory I'd forgotten about that I said that two weeks ago, didn't I?

40:02This is true. If Wilcox and Carrick are so obsessed with Edison, which I don't think they are, why were we happy in January to sit back and let him go to Atletico? Because he was going to Atletico in January. Atletico pulled out because of the price. He was that close to going to Atletico and we were all there in January saying we need a midfielder and United weren't going to do anything. And then suddenly they are. So what changed? Patrick Lynch says, Best part about the Edison deal is that it's done early. Gives him time for physicality. Get ready for adapting to the Premier League from the Serie A.

40:35It has to be the first pillar of a full midfield rebuild. Completely agree. Do you think Edison is the signing before the World Cup? Yes. VX, I do. Remember we were told this two weeks ago from our source. He's very good. Man United will make a big signing before the World Cup. Well, that's it. That clearly is it. I don't think we're going to make another signing before next Thursday. I don't see another here we go in a week. Because with United, we're not even, personal terms, agreed with anybody. We're not even deal close with anybody. So I think that was the deal, yeah. I know this is random and irrelevant to us now, but after Ganaccio's latest post and seeing him do a dumber things, I'm so glad we ripped off Chelsea, says Maz Rawawi.

41:22What's Ganaccio done now? I don't know what he's done now. Naveen says Rodgers an English left winger will sell most shirts and bring higher revenue which they love that's the reason for them to sign the left winger as the marquee rather than a centre midfield says Naveen I don't even think Morgan Rodgers is a left winger he won't be playing left wing for England will he Laman's lover says why is Rodgers a priority when we have no CDM it's Sky places what about Jack Fletcher this is a point we can't ignore it this is a point what about jack fletcher um came on against brighton um gone to the world cup with scotland plays in the midfield you know what if romano is right what if jamie jackson is right this is what jamie jackson had to say he writes for the guardian Edison signs for Man United Carrick is intent on signing two midfielders with others on United's list including Chumini, Baleba, Wharton and Anderson but it says Edison and one other so Carrick wants two Edison and either Chumini, Baleba, Wharton or Anderson that's Jamie Jackson what if it is two midfielders?

42:47what if Fletcher is going to be there with Maynou and then it's Edison and one other that terrifies me Fletcher should not be one of the four I hope Fletcher ends up being a Man United first team player like his dad who brilliantly fielder but he cannot be one of the four next season he can't be a young player for me as I've said to you before should always be in addition to what we've got So, you know, if Lacey's part of the team next season, he's not one of the wingers. You have Mbemo Ahmad, you have Kunya Dorgou, you have Bruno Mount, and then you have Lacey as an extra with no pressure. That can't happen in a midfield sense.

43:33I think that would be, you know, in my opinion, that would be a mistake. But look, there are a couple of stories this morning. Romano sort of hinted at it. You've also got Jamie Jackson saying it could be two midfielders. So we do need to be a little bit aware of that. It could be two midfielders. I hope not. I still think it will be three. Nearly 13 ,000 watching this morning. Please do share the video. Make sure you're subscribing. Kiel Robinson, are you going to talk about Chumini? Yeah, I'm going to talk about Chumini and Hall. Don't worry. I told you there was a lot to talk about. Emily Derry says, Fletcher's very young, inexperienced.

44:11He should be a bonus, not a contingency plan. It would be not fair to him or Carrick to put him in that position and would undermine one or both. Exactly. I think people like maybe Thwaites, maybe Fletcher, you have Maynard, Edison, two new signings and then Fletcher. You know, he's a floater. You know, that doesn't mean he's shit. But what I mean is, like, you've got four established players who take the responsibility. and then you have a bonus player who can basically get minutes without pressure you know last 20 minutes you're four nil up at home get fletcher on in the midfield don't bring edison on give him 20 minutes those sort of things uh can we judge edison based on how he played in the champions league says keel you can do but i'd say again like positives and negatives you can do positively but you know look at verts and frimpong in the champions league so the premier league is very different um forget whatever plans you have this weekend because you're staying at home and playing on spin quest and there's never been a better time to sign up than right now new users get 30 coin packs for just 10 all the table games you love with hundreds of slot games and real cash prizes that's at spinquest.com s-p-i-n-q-u-e-s-t.com spin quest is a free to play social casino Void where prohibited.

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46:01Download the GameTime app and create an account for$20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Why would Edison deal be completed in July? Do they plan to sign someone else for this financial year, says Peter? I think that's a good observation, Peter. We could have just got the Edison deal done in June because we were going to buy some menu in January and that would have gone in and we never used that money. So we clearly had money to spend in this financial year. Are we now pushing Edison into the next financial year to give us an opportunity to maybe do something in June if we need to? Probably.

46:39Clearly, we can spend money in the next month and put it in this financial year. Personally, we know we can spend a lot of money next season in the next financial year. Is that an indicator that we're going to do something in June? Probably, possibly. Or it could be we don't want to spend any more in this financial year. Let's put it all into next year. so we will see but it but it is true that we're putting the edison deal into next year's financial year in july so that where's that some menu money that we were going to spend in january it's not going on edison because he's going to be in next financial year edison at that price is okay says john united another 20 million could have landed another player but we need six signings if we're paying 50 million every deal we won't get far the bigger targets will need a bigger budget fair point john out of 10 how would you rate last year's windows as abby five because we didn't buy a midfielder beyond thank you very much for your super chat uh what's going on rash with rashford says dawson will he play here i think rashford to barcelona is um drifting obviously um we've seen they're looking at alvarez they want they've signed gordon they won't pay 25 million so it is drifting and obviously rashford's at the world cup now But people say Rashford will be back at Carrington He's at the World Cup Rashford won't be back at Carrington until August So even if Rashford's back at Carrington in August It's only three or four weeks before the window closes So I don't necessarily think Rashford's back at Carrington at any point I think it's about finding a move for him in the next two months We've got two months to resolve the Rashford deal And Arna's back at Carrington in four weeks Rashford won't be back for two months so I think there's plenty of time Do we not need a centre back if De Ligt doesn't recover?

48:30says HMS Probably probably but hopefully he can do Tristian Millwood welcome to that thanks very much for being a member as well Stefano says why do I get the feeling that Edison could either be a great signing like Herrera or an absolute flop like Fellaini no in between because I mean that's normal isn't it but you're right Kiel says I smell a 4-5-1 um and uh robert mcarmack says genuine don't know what i hincapé stats uh i mean i've got time at the end i'll have a quick look for you before last night we had one centre midfielder 35 million pounds is fair says keel and uh garth says i got retrenched recently i'm from south africa i want to watch a united game with the payout i got any suggestions for which home game i should watch next season.

49:18The fixtures are out in two weeks, mate. So I would wait. But yeah, I mean, a man you like Liverpool is always a good game. Even as a business, you don't buy cheap, you buy smarts, as Andrew. Thank you very much for that. OK, let me move on. So a couple of other bits I want to talk to you about as well. Oh, somebody just said, we've also got Toby Collier, says Inu. They may just be our homegrown players. Does Fernandes at West Ham fall under the homegrown quota no no no he's not he's um he came into southampton when he was about 19 i think so he wouldn't be classed as homegrown uh yeah toby collie is still about i don't think we'll be using him two cdms means no agate sale third signing if he goes says sjw and red devil girl says since our window is data led and our physicality is in the 55th percentile i expect that to be key churmi need to be priority explains edison and why we aren't chasing scott wharton Scott or Hackney says Red Devil Girl.

50:18I just, the only problem I have with Edison, Fernandez, Chumini is that they're all foreign players. And I like foreign players. I mean, there's definitely a bias against foreign players around Man United. That has been for years. I haven't got a problem signing three foreign midfielders. But at some point, the homegrown rule does need to be looked at. it is something that Robert McCormack's mentioned in previous summer transfer windows, and many of you have as well. It is a thing that we don't seem to be addressing.

50:52But I don't know what the rules are on how we're doing. I don't think we have a massive problem with homegrown, but if you look at who our homegrown players are, they're all a bit shit in relation to future or now. Luke Shaw, Tom Eaton, Harry Maguire. I mean, Manu, obviously not. But I do think, like Seema says, who cares about homegrown? Well, I don't care about whether they're Portuguese or English either. But the point is, Seema, you can say who cares about homegrown, but it is actually a rule. So you have to care about it. It is relevant. I don't care about it. I don't care if the whole team's Brazilian.

51:35Doesn't bother me. The world's a small place now. You know, it doesn't really matter, but it does matter because it is a rule. So what are we doing about that? In a way, if we buy three players, it's probably useful if one of them is a homegrown player. That's what I'm saying. Heaven's homegrown, obviously. He's under 21 and yeah, I think he's English anyway. Maynou is, Luke Shaw is, Harry Maguire is. sasco never will be and bermo never will be cuny never will be bruno never will be um main who is delo won't be um baguire is yoro never will be delit never will be martinez never will be lemans never will be luke shaw is so we're probably a little bit sure uh inu's just gifted 20 memberships you're a legend sir thank you very much uh mark lloyd as well thank you very much for joining the members club too.

52:36Seriously, just let Rashford go. I want nothing to do with that whole generation of United, says Kiel. And Slazy says, at least we're not bringing in teenagers and expecting them to carry the team from day one. I do hope we buy someone with Champions League experience as we need it. Thank you very much. And Tex says, Belaber, Edison, Tonali, Somerville, Hall, Mateta. I don't want Belaber, mate. Stop trying to slip Belaber in there first, so I'll move past it. I do not want Belaber at this football club. I think he's absolute shite. Edison is already here. Tonali I'd like. Somerville's interesting.

53:08Hall I like. Mateta is interesting. But not Belaber. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. That can't happen. Let me talk to you about Lewis Hall. Now, we are going to get the lowdown on Lewis Hall at 2 o 'clock because we've got Ben Jacobs on the show and he's sort of the person who sort of led with this story. Interestingly, on the left-back situation, I know Maud's mentioned it yesterday, but credible sources are now talking about Nathaniel Brown going to Bayern Munich or Arsenal. That'll be the end of the deal for Man United. I never felt that Nathaniel Brown of Eintracht Frankfurt was a good deal for us to do anyway because Frankfurt won around 50 million quid.

53:46I just can't imagine United paying 50 million pounds for a left back from the Bundesliga who is still relatively young. So I don't see United looking at that and the competition's very high now. So he was a player that we were looking at. that closes that door apparently the lewis hall deal is open door is open we should find out more at two o 'clock i'll look forward to that my suspicion is the player doesn't want to sign new contracts and wouldn't mind a move because isn't particularly happy at newcastle um how we exploit that it's very difficult he's under a long contract and newcastle don't need to sell if they don't want to um but we will find out at two o 'clock what's happening with him with Chumini I just wanted to and also Newcastle do need to make sales with Chumini I wanted to just move to Real Madrid a little bit Real Madrid, Canate was meant to be staying at Liverpool he's gone to meet Real Madrid on a free transfer Dumfries at Inter has gone to Real Madrid for like 20 million quid so Real Madrid in the blink of an eye have brought in a Champions League, Premier League proven centre-back who is still relatively young in Canate and a you know one of the best right backs in Europe in Dumfries and they've spent next to nothing so Real Madrid have made two really good signings very early on for Jose Mourinho who will be the coach there and Fabrizio has said this is the only only the beginning for Real Madrid they're planning to do more in the transfer market what does that mean for Manchester United well they've basically sorted their defence out.

55:27They have a centre-back and a right-back to add to what they've already got. They may make another defensive acquisition. But the next place and the importance of this, Real Madrid's next area is midfield. They may bring in an attacker, but their midfield is where they need to invest. I need to show the hotter meter as well, Caxo. Yes, I do. So this is very exciting because the minute Real Madrid sign a midfielder, that puts Chumini's place there on thinner ice. And I think it's thin anyway. So what does that mean for Manchester United? Look, Real Madrid are moving quick, even though the presidential elections aren't over yet.

56:14So I think that But watch this space. Real Madrid are moving. They've sorted their defence out. Midfield will be next. They haven't spent a lot of money on their defence. That's the main thing. Canate is a free. Dumfries is cheap. So their significant spend, I think, is going to be on that midfield. Now, that could be Rodri. It could be Enzo Fernandes. It could be both. It could be somebody else. Madrid will want to be a serious team next season exactly Khan and I think that they're going to spend on that midfield now the midfield for Real Madrid you've got decent players in there now obviously Camavinga might get sold but anybody they buy is effectively going to bench Valverde Bellingham or Chiamini and who do you think is most vulnerable out of those three so I think that Real Madrid are going to spend significant amounts of money on that midfield.

57:12Who they sign in there is going to have a big impact on where Chumini is on that list. Now, I have him as a six on the current automata. This is brand new this morning. This has been updated, by the way. So Lewis Hall is a climber. Scott remains four out of ten. Balaba remains six out of ten. Lewis Hall has moved up to a six. And, you know, maybe he's going to go higher. Let's see what happens on the two o 'clock show. Chumini for me still remains a six. These are higher than 50-50, 60 % chance of them signing for Man United. That's my feeling on where we are at the moment. Anderson, a lot of people don't like me putting Anderson at a seven.

57:50But the reason Anderson's a seven is because I've always said I have a funny feeling about this deal. I know it's a bit out there, but I have a funny feeling. But in fairness, who from September to May has kept telling every bloody journalist he's our top priority? Not me. I don't ring up David Ornstein and go, hello, it's Jason Wilcox. Coxie, it's Coxie. I've got a bit of a cold. Yep, David, it's Coxie. I've got a bit of a cold. Anderson. Anderson. Anderson. Yeah. So Man United have put it out there about Anderson. So look, I completely agree he's going to Man City. Why is he there? Why is he there?

58:30But I ain't bloody moving him because United have put it out there that he's our top priority so he can stay seven until he signs for City. Fernandes for West Ham's got to move up, has to move up. Edison's done now. Obviously, Edison's a nine. We'll keep him there for now, but we'll remove him in a couple of weeks. But we'll keep him there for now. So I think Fernandes is an eight now because everything we're being told, he'd like to come to us, we really like him. It's just going to come down to the price. And the only thing that's going to knock Fernandes down is if it comes out that United won't pay the price.

59:06So that's where we are with that at the moment. How much do you think United will spend this windows, Ben? How long is a piece of string, Ben? And also remember, it's not about how much you spend, is it? Edison might be 35 million, it might be costing us 10. I was thinking about this last night Atalanta have probably been earning £10-15 million out of Man United every year for the last six Is this just I mean I don't know how it works but I thought this last night have we got some agreement with Atalanta where we just give them£10 million every year for the next decade and we take one of their players because Ahmad will have been paid in instalments Rasmus was paid in installments and Edison will probably get paid in installments.

59:57Yeah, maybe we've got some sort of agreement with Atalanta where we'll give them 10 million pounds for the next 10 years and we just keep taking their players. I don't know. But my point is installments. We paid Rasmus Atalanta deal in installments. I think they're done now this summer and we'll probably play Atalanta installments on Edison. So the first installment on Edison might be 10 million. 10 million next year, 10 million a year after that so how much we'll spend this summer some people will say we've spent 35 million we haven't we might have only paid 10 but then you've got to put into your head who are we still paying money for we'll still be paying embermo this summer we'll still be paying kunya this summer um we're probably still paying yoro from two years ago so it all it's very difficult to say how much we'll spend because technically it'll blow your mind what we're spending we're probably already spending 150 million pounds on previous deals because it's all done in installments uh mark why don't you ever interview ben because it's not just me on the channel um sometimes i do it but it's the beth and ben show and i actually quite like watching it you know i know what the questions are going to be i quite like watching it how much do you think united will spend this window done that uh what do i think about rashford staying says rash e he doesn't want to stay and United don't want him to stay and half the fan base don't want him to stay so that's what I think Mark says I still think we'll sign Belaber club are obsessed with him given all the positive spin stories throughout the season I hope not I completely agree and Tom Grant says as Keel said Rashford get gone along with Anana none of us went any funny business this summer morning all by the way this is Tom morning to you Tom thank you so much yeah Beth is back today she's been in New York I'm very jealous about that but she's back now in rainy Manchester I presume it's raining there because it seems to be raining everywhere at the moment but yeah 13 ,000 watching so I am just going to do this as a little thank you to Robert McCormack for his super chats he said to me can you have a look at Hincafe as a left back I can and I will compare him to

1:02:16our players. So, crosses per 90 in Cape is 1.1. Dribbles per 90, 0.6. Luke Shaw, 0.3.

1:02:37Let's have a look at his passing. passes per 90 40 compared to luke shaw's 41 and defensive 9.2 defensive actions per 90 to luke shaw's 7.6 so i don't i don't i don't know what you wanted to know robert but effectively hincapé doesn't get forward and put crosses into the box um but i probably would have expected that because arsenal are very pragmatic um and he is a center back playing at left back isn't he so he's quite similar to luke shaw in relation to crosses tackles passing dribbles progressive runs um he's a defensive left back isn't he which is basically what luke shaw is as well um yeah one cross in 90 minutes is horrendous as i am yeah and i don't I don't know how far the data goes back.

1:03:34I wonder if I could. I would love to look at Luke Shaw, like, I'd love to look at Luke Shaw statistically over numerous seasons. What year would you say? We're overrunning a little bit here. So,

1:03:59what's this so it's interesting 25 26 crosses per 90 Luke Shaw 1.13 if I go back to the 22 23 season he was 2.2 if you go to the 23 24 season 1.7 If you go to 21-22 season, 2.9. 20-21, 2.1.

1:04:3524-25, 1.7. So he's a left back that was 2.7 at one point, crosses per 90, then down to 2.2, 1.9, 1.7, and now he's at like 1.2. So by the year, he's becoming less and less of a left back, which is why we need to buy a left back as well. Look, Luke Shaw has started every big, Luke Shaw's big positive this season and no one can deny it is his availability. But how much of that is down to he doesn't run as much anymore. He doesn't get forward as much anymore. And also he's playing one game a week. I don't know How Luke Shaw Is going to Play two games a week I just don't know How he's going to do it Because he's not operating Like a left back anyway I actually think Luke Shaw Was better off In an Amrim system Hankat Incape Will always be known As pants pulled down Says Maz Rawawi And I'm glad we've got Sancho off the wage list As well Says Love Hate Games Will any of the selling clubs Take Agate or Xerxi Says Slazy I think Xerxi We could get a buyer for I think Agate is probably going to go on loan Okay Broken leg was his downfall I can't believe he broke his leg And he doesn't wear shin pants Mentality king What was Luke Shaw pre-broken leg?

1:05:59God, does it go back that far? When did he break his leg? What year? I feel like I'm going to go 15-16 season well in the 15-16 season he was putting in 3.2 crosses per 90 he's down to 1.2 now

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