426: Anderson BID! Glazers SELLING United?!

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0:57American Social Casino. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbriggs. This is your latest Manchester United transfer news and sale news as the Glazers look to sell Manchester United again. This is not coming in from the sun. This is coming from business background journalists. We'll talk about that, of course. An Anderson bid goes in. It's not from Manchester United. I think this, for me, is bigger news. Why are we not bidding for a player that we've told everybody we want for nine months and we're just going to sit back and let it happen? Why is that not something that's irritating the fan base this morning?

1:35We'll also talk about the latest on Fernandes and a few other bits as well. But where do we start this morning? Do we start with the sale news? Do we start with the Anderson bid news? Look, both of them are big. And look, I will read both and then we will delve into both as well. So last night came in from David Ornstein, Laurie Whitwell, Athletic. Man City have made an opening offer for Nottingham Forest's Elliot Anderson. Forest have rejected the bid, but City's pursuit of the England international remains ongoing. The City ground club will look to get the best possible deal if Anderson is to leave this summer.

2:12Manchester United also held interest, but their stance has long been they would not bid as high as the figures Forest are expected to want. and other midfield targets have been seen as more credible. What an utter load of bollocks. And I'm going to say it, what a load of bollocks. I'm fed up of this football club treating fans like mugs. They made the same amount of money from 10 home games this season that they made in 15 last year, which means they've hiked the prices up. How do they get away with hiking the prices up. I'll tell you how they do it. They facilitate stories about Elliot Anderson all summer and ambition.

2:50And they facilitate those stories by talking about Project 28 and winning titles. And every bloody month for nine months, we've had Elliot Anderson, Elliot Anderson from David Ornstein, from Fabrizio Rubano, from Laurie Whitwell, from the Manchester Evening News, because they haven't made it up. They've been given that information by somebody. But then when it comes to the nine months later where you've spent nine months talking about it and telling everybody is your top priority to build excitement around the club, to make people buy tickets and buy shirts and buy into the bollocks. When it actually comes down to it, you go, no, actually it's too expensive.

3:24What do you mean it's too bloody expensive? How can you spend nine months telling all the credible journalists that this is your number one priority? But then when it comes down to it, you go, well, we didn't know it was going to be 100 million pounds. You know what? It really does annoy me. It really annoys me. And I hope the bloody Glazers do sell out. they do piss off because I'm fed up of it. I'm fed up of the way the club treats its fans. It's disgusting. It's nothing short of a con. That's what it is. Buy the shirt, buy the tickets, keep the club afloat on our false promises. Again, again.

4:00And I'm not bloody buying that. I'm not having that. Man United have held an interest, but they think the price is too high and they want to go for more credible players. Well, if you think that, you knew it in September. Everybody knew Elliot Anderson was going to cost£100 million and United still allowed Ornstein and Romano and The Athletic and the Manchester News to put it out that it was the number one priority. You know, United can't cry innocent in that because they could have picked the phone up in January and said, Fabrizio, we've seen that you've got a story that Anderson's our number one priority.

4:33He isn't. I mean, we would not want our fans to think something's going to happen that's not going to happen because we really don't want to, you know, take the piss out of our own fans. So Fabrizio, if you could put it out there that he's not a top priority, that would be great. Hello, David. David. Yeah, it's Jason. Coxie. Yeah. Again, I've just had this chat with Fabrizio about Anderson being a top priority. Yeah, we can't afford that, mate. Yeah, yeah. Just say it's not. We just don't want to give our fans false promises. Yeah. Have we done that? No. Even as recently as two weeks ago, Elliot Anderson was still Man United's priority.

5:09How can something be a priority that you can't afford? Explain that one to me. So it does piss me off because I feel like we've been lied to. I feel like we've been took the piss out of. I feel like we look at that. And also, I think we look like amateurs again. I'm actually quite protective of this football club. I care about it. I want to be in debates with other fans about what a great football club it is. Well, be laughed at again. But they don't care because they'll be making some money somewhere here. They'll have made a load of shirt sales or something will have happened that allows them to...

5:41Yeah, but if we look like we're going to do something good, we make money. People are taking the piss. I've had a Liverpool fan message me this morning and going, Elliot Anderson, the priority is he? Laughing emoji. I've just said, fuck off. We will still be friends. But I'm like, it just annoys me. I don't care if they're honest. But they won't be honest because they don't like being honest. Because if they're honest, we'll call them out. Let's get real. We don't want to spend over£80 million on anybody, OK? I'm not even the director of football. I'm not the owner. We don't want to pay over£80 million for anybody, OK?

6:21So we're not signing Tenali and we're not signing Anderson, are we? We're not. We're not. We're not. Now, I might be completely wrong about that, but I think I'm probably right. So why not just put that out there? Why not put that out there that we're not looking to do these sort of deals anymore? Because it just annoys me the amount of times we've spoken about Elliot Anderson being the top priority for nine bloody months. And then he's literally for sale. Man City put a bid in and the news out of United is we will not pay what Nottingham Forest want. And you know what Nottingham Forest want? They want around£100 million.

6:57They want what Arsenal paid for Declan Rice. What did we think the price was going to be? What did we think the price was going to be? I'd love to know what we thought the price was going to be. And that's what annoys me about it. We'll come back to it because Rip says, what about the club up for sale? Okay, I want to talk to you about this as well. I'll tell you what, Kevin Keegan time. I will bloody love it if they sell the club and piss off. I will love it. I would really bloody love it. I would absolutely love it. So where this is coming from, and I want to just give you the background on this, just so you know, because I'll be honest with you from the very start here.

7:37I have no interest in this. I have no passion. I have no excitement, nothing. I genuinely don't. But also, apparently, Man United are going to make five new signings this summer. We'll talk about that in a moment as well. But where is this? Here we go. So it's coming in from Bloomberg Business that's got 10 million followers. So this is a business page. So you've got Sky Business, BBC Business, Bloomberg, very business orientated. So this is not coming in from... And I always say this, whenever it's to do with the ownership of Man United and when we were talking about the sale before. You do get people like Mike Keegan, Ben Jacobs, who are very good on that side of things.

8:23You know, they understand it. But predominantly, when it comes down to a sale, you know, realistically, it's the business pages, you know, that you want to be looking at. So this has come out from Bloomberg. Some members of the Glazer family have been debating whether or not to sell their stake in Manchester United. Several of them have been studying the possibility of selling off part or all of their holdings in the club. So that's, remember, I mean, I don't know how many Glazers actually do own a stake in Manchester United, but it goes further. Any sale is expected to attract interest from Middle Eastern investors and wealthy US buyers, though the club would command a significant price.

9:04So some of the members of the Glazer family are considering selling their stake in Manchester United after more than 20 years of ownership. Now, Joel and Jim and Avram, isn't it? I don't know how many siblings, brothers and sisters, the Glazers have got who have a stake in Manchester United. but look if you want the logic um essentially um at the end are there's something that there was when sir jim radcliffe bought the club there was something that is in operation i think from december this year where the glazes can sell um i don't think they can in the first two years of the Ineos buy, but they can sell their shares from December this year.

9:55And there's nothing Sir Jim Radcliffe can do about it apart from getting first refusal. So basically, imagine, I'm not being the Glazers. You're the Glazers. I'm Sir Jim Radcliffe, right? I can't even pretend I'm a Glazer. I'm not doing it. So you're the Glazers. I'm Sir Jim Radcliffe, yeah? And you own Man United. and I buy 25 % for 1.7 billion, yeah? And I say, as part of that deal, you cannot sell any part of your shares in the first two years, yeah? And you go, yeah, that's fine. And also, if after two years, you do decide to sell any of your shares, I get first refusal, yeah? Okay. So basically what could happen is in December, some of the Glazers could sell their shares.

10:37There's nothing Sir Jim Radcliffe can do about it apart from he will get first choice to buy them, but he doesn't get a reduced rate. It has to be at market value. So they could value those shares at a billion for 10 % or a billion for 5%. He would have to pay that. He would have to pay that. So look, I will sit here and say, for all of you that are excited, that's the pathway. They can do it. So Jim Radcliffe can't stop it. They could sell another 10%. They could sell said, the ownership structure of Manchester United is a mess. You've got just over 50 % in the hand of the Glazers, and they're not one person.

11:21They're all brothers and sisters with their own needs and wants and greed, whatever you want to call it. You've got Sir Jim Radcliffe with about 28%, and then you've got individual shareholders as well. So it's not a clean ownership model at Man United anyway. There are a lot of different... Well, look, if you own a pub and three of you own it. And even if you're mates, one day one of your mates might wake up and say, I don't like that food. I want it to be an Indian restaurant now. I don't want to do burgers and chips and Sunday roasts. So it can fall apart. Of course it can. I don't think the ownership structure of Manchester United is very good.

12:01Do I think it's going to happen? No. I've been down this road too many times to think that United will get out of this situation that they're in. And also, it doesn't mean Sir Jim McCliff's going anywhere.

12:17So, look, it is in Bloomberg. It is a business paper. It does say some of the Glazers are thinking of selling. Of course, they could sell. But the reality is there's a new stadium that's going to get built. That's going to take a lot of investment. Man United's never been more of a business than it is today. It was a business 20 years when the Glazers bought it on debt. It was a business transaction when Sir Jim Radcliffe bought 25%, but it's never been more of a business than it is today. And it's fragmented as well. There's too many fingers in the pie. There's too many people looking for a piece of Man United to make money.

12:58I don't even know if the Glazers selling off more and diluting it even more is a good thing because you could have Sir Jim Radcliffe with 25%. The Glazers could dilute their percentage. Someone else could come in and say, we'll have a bit of the pie as well. And also, this is purely speculative. What if this is just a lead up to whoever's going to invest in the stadium gets a percentage of the club as well? Quantum says there are six siblings, but it could be you're not a need to borrow, so much money from private investors will give you 5 % of the club as well. I've always thought that might happen.

13:38How do you get somebody to build a new stadium for you? There's 2 billion. Give us 3 billion back over 10 years, or there's 2 billion, you can have 10 % in the club. So it could be that as well, but it's not a full sale. And as everyone in the chat saying, This is not a full sale. So this is just another dilution potential of the ownership of Manchester United. And what United need and what some of the bloody Sir Jim Rimmers did with Ineos, Ineos Rimmers, they said, oh, Sir Jim will have the whole club by 2026. He's not even got a pathway to half of the club. So we are where we are. We're more diluted than we ever are.

14:24So I don't see Manchester United selling the club anytime soon, if I'm being completely honest with you. But that is the news. We can come back to that, get your comments in. I want to go back to transfer stuff. If you missed the start of the show, Manchester City have put their first bid in for Elliot Anderson. I don't like that, by the way. I'll tell you in a minute why. So they put their first bid in. Ben Jacobs says they'll be back. It's been rejected. They'll be back. and Man United will not bid because the price is too high. I know, I know. You spend nine months circulating a story that is our priority and then you don't even bid.

15:03And what does that say to us about our ambition, by the way? What do Man United actually mean to you at the moment? I mean, look, Man United to me means everything. You know, it's the club my granddad supported, Duncan Edwards on the shelf, amazing story. That Man United doesn't exist at the moment, though. Even the Man United of the 90s, with the likes of Beckham and Giggs and Keane, doesn't exist anymore. The team of the noughties, with Ronaldo and Rooney and Scholes, doesn't exist anymore. We're a different Manchester United. But even on a very simple level, is it not? If you look at the last six months, we really, really want Semenyu.

15:43He chooses Man City. If you look at the whole season, we really, really want Amberson. He's the priority. we don't even bid for him. You can't say it's an ambitious football club. I think we are demonstrating publicly our lack of ambition. Our ambition is money. Our ambition is business. It's not success on the pitch. You know, it's just not. Interesting story come out from Manchester Evening News. I've just literally been sent this. So NJai is on Man United's shortlist if they move for a left winger this summer. interest in Morgan Rogers who can also play that role but competition will be fierce and Jai would offer flexibility in attacking positions it's interesting that the Manchester Evening News have spoken about and Jai from Everton because he is was mentioned by Ben Jacobs yesterday I was watching the Beth and Ben show late last night and I didn't mention it on the 8 o 'clock show which is why you should always watch the Ben Jacobs show with Beth because there's loads of stuff in there that I don't necessarily repeat on the Ata Cock show.

16:48But he did mention him as a left-wing option for Manchester United. Look, the only problem I have with N 'Jai Everton is pronouncing his name. I just can't pronounce it. I never will be able to pronounce it. But, you know, he's almost like a Cunha on the left wing. He's like a proper winger, but he plays like Cunha. he's got he's like Kunja if Kunja was a left winger and Kunja's not a left winger he's a 10 he's a bit quicker he's got a lower centre of gravity and he's a bit more skilful but he's a prop he can play as a number 10 as well so I mean look is that a reason not to go for him well no because I think he's more of a left winger than Kunja and he can play as a number 10 Morgan Rodgers is a number 10 who also plays where Kunja plays so if anything Njai is more of a winger.

17:43He's more of an actual winger. So if you bought him, he is a left winger. So I wouldn't be opposed to that. But I agree with Alexander Gettnusa. The price you will pay for NGi from Everton, because it will be at a premium. And I think what I would say is we will get so many players linked to Manchester United this summer. And I enjoy it. I must admit, from talking about the sale to talking about NGi, my mood has gone through the roof. I feel a lot more excited now because I'd rather have those conversations than the speculative bullshit about how the Glazers can mess this club up even more over the next decade.

18:18So N 'Jai from Everton would be an interesting profile of player. I liked him last season, not the season that's just gone, the season before. I watched him a couple of times and I liked him and I think he's got even better last season. But remember Bramthwaite, who is still a player I would not be surprised if Man United went for by the way I will say this now Branthwaite Everton I think is more likely than NG I just think Man United and Ineos have got this strange obsession with Branthwaite but look let me talk to you about NG and Branthwaite right we we wanted Branthwaite the summer before last instead of Yoro and we were willing to pay 50 million and they wanted 60 in fact I think they wanted 70.

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20:07Now, is he worth that amount of money? You will get Noosa for that, and I think Noosa's a better player. So, I do like NJ. Interesting story this morning, coming out from the Manchester Evening News, that Man United are looking at him. To be fair, Ben Jacobs said it on our 2 o 'clock show yesterday, so he clearly is on the short list, as a left-wing option. He is playing in the World Cup, I think. So it's not a deal that's going to happen very quickly. But also, I think that he is a player that would, because it's Everton, I think you're probably looking at maybe£60 to£70 million. Now, he's 26, but he's only just 26.

20:50So that's fine. That's not going to put Manchester United off from a contract perspective. Let me have a quick look. He has a contract until 2029. So three years left on his contract, 26 years of age. It's a good time for Everton to cash in, but they're probably going to want 60, maybe 70 million. What Everton will do, and in fairness, they're not wrong, what Everton would do if we approach them is we'd probably go in and say 40 million and Everton would say well we're starting at 65 because that's what you paid for Mbermo a year ago and you bought him from Brentford and we believe he's the same price as that so they'd want 65, maybe 70 so I do agree with Alexander I probably would go with Noosa in that sense but I'm a big fan of him I think he's a good player um carrying on get your comments in lots to talk about uh i want to talk next about um paul hurst in the times uh uh times journalist saying that ederson will be the first of up to five new signings for manchester united this summer remember yesterday the story was about it could be two or three midfielders it's got to be three we've then got a story as well from paul hurst that it'll be up to five is five enough for man united i want to talk about that of course.

22:23Let's have a quick look.

22:28I just want to catch up on some of your comments. I've just completely realised there's quite a lot to get into this morning and I've completely and utterly neglected you. Glazers won't sell. It's to distract from the Anderson news, says Dave. And again,

22:44you might be right you might be right I mean I hate to say it Dave even I haven't said it and you know I'm very cynical you might be right Anderson's going to Man City let's put a story out there that distracts our fan base for two weeks and if you don't think that happens remember the October international break when a lot of people wanted Amrim to be sacked what happened in October Remember the story about Dubai and the sale? What happened with that? See, elephant memory. That's what you've got as well. I don't forget. I don't forget the spin. Last October international break were being bought by Dubai.

23:28Was it Turkey Al-Asheikh who put it out there as well? What happened to that story? Oh, could it have been a story that was put out there to distract us for a couple of weeks? You're probably right, Dave. You will not get me excited about Man United selling, the Glazers selling until they hold up the shirt. And that's just a saying, you know. A lot of people say about transfers, I'm not getting excited until I see them holding up the shirt. And I'm not getting excited about the Glazers selling, even though I think it would be the best thing to happen to this football club in a very long time. I'm not going to get excited about the Glazers selling until they're holding up the shirt.

24:01I'm not. Patrick Lynch says, so we can't afford to buy the likes of Anderson and the Glazers are selling. How much spin do they think will fall for? Can't believe any briefs that come from journalists at United. They're all lackeys. Client journalists, Patrick. Client journalists, that's what they are. Although, to be fair, that came from Bloomberg, which is a business journalist outlet. So I will say that this has not come out from the normal client journalist. This has come out from Bloomberg. The irony is, instead of telling bullshit on marquee signings, if they signed it, the return on investment will be paid off immediately.

24:35Abramovich shirt sales alone proved that, says Seth. Mate, the biggest spike in our share price we've had in the last decade in a summer transfer window was when Mourinho got announced. Our share price went through the roof. I mean, the evidence is there. If you are successful and do exciting things, you will make more money. When Ronaldo came back, I bet they made bloody loads of money. So, yeah, they've never figured that one out. good morning mark one plus one glazes sales spin to distract from probably missing out on and i'll tell you what i want to applaud all you lot this morning you've all figured that one out and i never even bloody said it which is which is the brilliance of community i mean i do know a lot i am very opinionated i am being sarcastic there but i don't catch everything and that's why i love this community because i never even thought about the spin and you're absolutely right of course of course it's probably spin.

25:33Man City put a bid in for Anderson and suddenly the Glazers might be selling. You're right. You're absolutely right. Thank you very much, Fours. Bored spinners knowing we'd never get him. Shit bags, says Damien. I don't see a world we don't spend at least 100 million for a top class DM. Madrid and Newcastle will ask around the same. Just bid for Anderson, says Peter. Even though I see it as shite, but I can understand that United don't want to go in bidding war against City. Forest ain't forced to sell either, bid what they want or go to other top targets as A's. Look, mate, at the end of the day, there is another angle.

26:08We won't bid because we know he wants to go to City. But you know what? I'd rather know that than, yeah, we don't want to bid. Maybe the truth is they know he wants to go to City and we've lost again and they lost to Semenyu. So maybe that's what it is. And I tell you what, as good as Elliot Anderson is, I will say this and I don't care. If Elliot Anderson has chosen Manchester City over Manchester United, in my opinion, which I'm entitled to have, what planet is he on? Is it just money? Mate, you played at Old Trafford a couple of weeks ago. It's a very big difference to playing for Manchester United in the midfield than it is for playing for Manchester City.

26:52Very big difference. Pep Guardiola is not there either anymore. Also, you know what? And I will say this. If Man City get found guilty and they get relegated, Elliot Anderson, Semenyu, Gehi, you knew what you were walking into. You knew what you were walking into. So, you know, if these players are picking Man City over Man United on money, good luck to them. And I don't mean good luck to them. I mean, you know, there could be a reality there. if we were competent enough to find the next Tenale or Anderson I would still have been okay for sure it's going to be Fernandes and Balaba next as reality speaks different would you use Rashford in a swap deal for Rodgers says Jack I can't see Rashford going to Villa the longer we don't swap deals don't exist either but hypothetically no I think

27:51and also I think Villa in a swap deal for Rodgers Rashford would probably still want 70 million and say Rashford's only worth 20. VX says the longer we don't buy a marquee player, the more I believe it was all bullshit. All United transfer news should be taken with a grain of salt until proven, says VX. We wouldn't pay the 100 million for Kane or Rice and that worked out well. Where are they now? League champions. We're just a cash cow, not a football club, says Pete Phillips. When new owner is holding a scarf, then I'll believe it, says Ray. And Goldfridge says, honestly, I think it's clear we've been told by the Anderson Campy Prioritize City.

28:25We've been backing away for a few months now. Blaming price is to save face. You might be right about that. Welcome to the members club. Thank you very much for joining that and getting your badge in. Daniel Thompson says, hello everyone and the United stand. City go for Anderson. So we get things like Glazers may be selling to try and spin something bad in losing our top target to a rival because we can't be bothered to fight to a positive bullshit from United again. You know what though, Daniel, reading a lot of the comments and from what I've said as well, I think people either think it's bullshit PR that the Glazers might sell or they don't care.

29:02I don't see anybody online or in our community going, oh, this is great news. I'm so excited. Who could be buying us? The thing is when you cry wolf three or four times, people don't Listen, I don't think there's a United fan this morning waking up to an article in Bloomberg, which is a business outlet about the Glazers potentially selling. I don't think there's a United fan this morning going, oh, I don't. I didn't even want to lead on it. Like Greg says, he doesn't care. I want to talk about why we're not bidding for Anderson. I want to talk about who we're going for then. If the Glazers hold up the shirt saying we've sold Man United, fine, I'll celebrate.

29:41but I think it's been cried wolf multiple times over the last few years. I don't think there's a United fan out there that's excited about the Glazers selling the club. And I don't think we will be. Even if it's actually going to happen, it will still take eight months. And I don't think over the next eight months, anyone's going to get excited. Because would you trust them to sell it to anybody decent? No. Probably go to another American investment fund or whatever. so I don't think anybody's excited about it at all and if you don't know the story someone just said the boy who cried wolf question mark so basically very quickly there's an old story well actually it was something we got taught at school so basically the shepherds wanted some time off so they got this local lad from the village to look after the sheep up on the hill and they're all down the pub or whatever or you know relaxing with their wives and um they they hear this boy shouting wolf wolf wolf so they all run up to the village with their sticks to beat the wolf up and he's laughing he goes oh sorry i was just bored it was a joke and they go oh you little shit so they go back down to the village and he's like oh bored again so he cries wolf wolf wolf and they all run up with their sticks again he goes i was joking and go you little rascal bloody little shit so they go off again anyway a couple of hours later a wolf does turn up and he goes wolf wolf wolf and all the all the blokes all the shepherds they're down the pub and the goal he's having a laugh again piss off we'll stay and watch the football anyway they go back the next day no no no sheep and no kids the wolves at a lot of them um and that's because the boy was taking the piss and that's the glazes isn't it sail sail sail haha it's a joke it's spin So, yeah, I don't think anybody believes it anymore.

31:34Did the boy get eaten by the wolf as well? Well, I always got told that the wolf ate the sheep and the boy was there crying at the end going, is that all the sheep? But the real version is the wolf eats the sheep and the kid. It's a harsh world. So for the last year, these morons shamelessly put stories out about Anderson to deflect from tough periods, only for City to put a bid in. Stupid idiots, says Raja. yeah look i want to talk about a couple of other things but we still got plenty of time left um i don't know whether this frustrates you as much as it frustrates me i've been talking about it for a long time um i know but i don't find it acceptable you know i've worked in businesses i work in one now um and and you know ultimately a lot of what we say is watched by a lot of people little clips go here and there.

32:23And honesty is the best policy. People might not like your opinions, but they're real, right? And if somebody doesn't like your opinion, then you have to stand by it. If I think we need to sell Luke Shaw, I think we need to sell Luke Shaw. You might disagree with me. I detest bullshitters. I detest manipulation. And I think that, you know, I've been saying this for nine months. I don't trust that United really want Elliot Anderson. And then there'll be another article that Man United want Elliot Anderson. I could spend an hour after this show searching. I don't know, I just get AI to do it. List me all the articles in the last nine months about Man United wanting Elliot Anderson.

33:10And it will be plentiful. I guarantee there's over 50 and it will include credible journalists in there. That will be briefed information, probably from somebody at the club. So when that was briefed, what was the plan? You're happy for it to say, Elliot Anderson's a priority, but when it comes down to it, you don't even bid. So what is that? You explain that to me. For nine months, we want Elliot Anderson. And not only do we want Elliot Anderson, he's our top priority. And then you don't even bid for him because he's too expensive. So are you a bunch of morons who didn't realize his price or are you manipulative?

33:52It's got to be one of the two, hasn't it? So I find it really annoying. And the biggest problem I have with it, is that whatever their motivation is, stupidity or manipulation, the end game is Manchester City are down the road from Man United, they're more successful than us, and for the second time in six months, they've took a player that we want. This wouldn't happen under Sir Alex Ferguson. I know a football game is won on the pitch, but there are battles off the pitch, and to lose two players that we want to Manchester City says everything about who we are. And as United fans, those battles off the pitch are as important as the ones on the pitch.

34:45We have to be a big club. We have to believe we're a big club. And these actions from Sir Jim Radcliffe and the Glazers make us look like a small club. We're losing these battles off the pitch. You can't say this player for nine months is our number one priority and then watch Man City just buy him like that and go, oh, yeah, it was too expensive. What, you know, there will be people going, oh, you're making too big a deal of it. Fine. But tell me what the message is then, because perception, public perception is everything.

35:21Look, I don't want to get too serious But remember Mason Greenwood Didn't go to court But a lot of people still don't like him Public perception Man United

35:35Are going to sell the club to Qatar Rio Ferdinand's there You know, I'm hearing it's Qatar Didn't happen We end up being bought 25 % by Sir Jim Radcliffe Public perception So how you behave has an impact on what people think of you. Pop stars, politicians, everything, yeah? Nine months of We Want Elliot Anderson, they can't hide from that. The articles are there. There will be an article from David Ornstein. There will be articles from Romano. There will be stuff about him being our priority. Goes to Man City. What's the public perception there? We're not a big club. We're not serious. We're not ambitious.

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37:20I don't want Man United to be that. I want us to be honest. I want us to go, we didn't want Elliot Anderson. It was never a priority. We never really wanted him. But they've put it out there that they did. I won't believe it until it happens. Glazers and Anderson, says Mark. And Pengus says, real easy to see how both clubs operate. City go and get Anderson. United get several players, hoping one turns into an Anderson. ambition versus delusion uh and uh edison is a defensive player that was from pengers edison is a defensive player and so is fernandez and chumini so we'll buy only one of those and scott or belabor will be third says bail will adjust this and keel robinson says i can't really get excited about anyone because i have no idea how karik wants to play was anderson a priority for a different way of playing says keel and uh that united guy says no way five five signings are enough we need improvements in a lot more positions.

38:13We're going to play Champions League football next season, for God's sake. Marlowe says, do you think it's a problem to sign so many midfielders in one window? Can't promise them all of them a place in the starting 11. The pitch isn't great, says Marlowe. But we have to do it, Marlowe, because as I said last night, if we haven't got four midfielders and we've only got three, we're in trouble as soon as there's an injury. In fact, you don't even need an injury. You're in trouble after 70 minutes because your two midfielders might not be playing well they might be tired they might have another game on wednesday you might you know one sub in the midfield is not enough and if you get an injury you're in big trouble so i think we actually need five midfielders which means we need to sign four players definitely need to sign three um rajaf says wait the glazes are selling i joined just now i yeah i'd go back i'd go back and watch it um chris jackson says idea for after show goldbridge reads nursery rhymes.

39:07No, Goldbridge analyzes nursery rhymes because, you know, ring-a-ring-a-roses, that's about the plague. I'm very interested in this sort of stuff. I won't believe it until it happens. That was from Mark. Okay, let me talk about this story then. So Paul Hurst, who is a journalist for The Times, says Edison will be the first of up to five new signings for Man United this summer. Now, many of you can't moan about this. I've certainly said it as well. we don't believe we'll sign more than five. Ben Jacobs thinks it could be up to eight. I think it needs to be up to eight. But it depends what you class as a significant signing.

39:49Spending five million on a backup goalkeeper is technically a signing, but it doesn't move the needle, does it? Five signings, would that be enough for Man United? Well, look, What I will say is, if there are five good signings, that has to be a minimum. If it's three bench players and two decent signings, it's not enough. But I was thinking about this. Would five be enough for Manchester United? Well, three midfielders takes you to over half place already. A left back, a good left back is four, which means you've only got one left.

40:25and a lot of you want a centre-back, a backup striker and a winger so you see what I mean seven plus a backup goalkeeper maybe is eight plus a right back would be nine we're not going to get that so I don't know that five is enough you've got to get three midfielders you've got to get a left back so then your last position is either a left winger a backup striker or a centre-back I don't I'm not bothered about a centre-back so for me it's a backup striker or a left winger. So realistically, five isn't enough, is it? Rob says, Ben Jacobs says it could be eight. He's been told to say that to boost the media engagement of the club.

41:00Well, you know what? I don't blame Ben Jacobs. I don't blame David Ornstein. I don't blame Fabrizio Romano if they're saying what they're being told. If you're a journalist and you get told by somebody who knows a credible source, maybe someone in the club, that United might buy up to eight players, are you going to go, you're a lying twat you'll never get any information again or are you going to put it out there and say it could be up to eight players yes it could be client journalism of course it could but we've just spent about 10 minutes talking about the Anderson story and how United were happy for that story to be out there for nine months and then they don't even bid so my answer to is it spin well was the Anderson story spin it's the definition of spin how can you have nine months of each hour priority and then not bid it has to be spin and i know for a fact because i've spoken to previous um commercial people at man united marketing people media people they hated they used to hate it um i mean i'm i'm not talking out of i'm not i won't give you the name but and it wasn't andrew who left last um season it was before him they used to be a comms person at man united quite high up and he would get in contact quite regularly if i said spin they hate that they absolutely hated it i don't think they do now but they used to hate it when it was like it's spin from the club well i'm sorry if anyone from the club is watching what is it if you put out there nine months to credible journalists that elliot anderson is a priority and then you don't even bid.

42:44There might be an explanation, but you can't blame fans for thinking it's spin. So what's the consequences of that? Nothing. There's no protests, nothing. Why shouldn't Man United say we might sign eight players for positivity? If we only sign four, what happens? Oh, I thought we'd buy an eight. Yeah, we might buy eight. there's no consequence to bullshit basically there's no part there's no consequence to you know next season they could say their priority is Jude Bellingham when the transfer window closes and it's not the one we want the day after is that Samuel Luckhurst is that Laurie Whitwell yeah it Bellingham's the priority for nine months yeah just keep putting it out there is he well yeah we'd love to buy him and who knows so you know next year it could be Bellingham for nine months and then when it hits next summer yeah we're not signing Bellingham I just feel like that's where we've got to that's the modern way with Man United now it doesn't matter if it's true as long as people believe it you know so yeah we might buy we might buy eight players but would you be surprised if we only buy five we might Mojo says while 100 07 Mad Mac I'll move you on you rude person goodbye Mojo says while 100 million player is out of our reach given our finances but I also believe Anderson wants City because City wouldn't like a situation where they've been rejected by a marquee player who then signs for United as Mojo yeah but you know what if that's the truth and Elliot Anderson does prefer Man City over Man United, then again, think of the perception mojo.

44:38This is what I'm talking about. We don't even care. We'd rather take the positivity of nine months of stories that we want Elliot Anderson and take the L that he wants to go to Man City than actually keep it quiet and never be linked to him, but just keep it quiet. That says a lot as well. We've publicly been okay with him being our priority and we're okay with him choosing Man City. There's a time where you wouldn't want that. I don't think it's for Alex Ferguson would want that. I think he'd be knocking on the door of comms saying, why is it out there that we want Elliot Anderson? Well, you do.

45:14I know I do. But what if he chooses Man City? I look a fucking idiot. We're Manchester United. We have a chat with him. And if he wants to go to Man City and then it comes out that we had a chat with him, we'd just go, no, we didn't. Why are we putting it out there that we want him and then he goes to Man City. It's embarrassing. But we don't care anymore because in the boardroom now, it's like, yeah, but we've had nine months of positivity, you know. It works. Squad player my arse says Double D, you come to United to fight for a starting place and why the hell are we not going for a new right back?

45:47Thank you very much, pal. Your boy says, are United acting like a smaller club, not using their pulling power to the fullest and hoping these smaller signings work out, says your boy. And Sean Turner, hope you're doing well, says, I can see it now. Chiumini wasn't for sale Tonali was too much and Anderson wanted City excuses we're going to end up with Edison and Belaba Jandy says what about a Deleuze for Trent swap yay or nay I would never bring Trent Alexander-Arnold to Man United I think there's off-field issues with him as we've seen I mean why is he not in the England team it makes no sense he's crap defensively and he also played for Liverpool.

46:31Positives, I think going forward, he's very, very good. But I think those three barriers would be, you know, would I swap him for Deleuwe? I mean, he's better than Deleuwe, but I think that, you know, sometimes you've got to look at the situation and say, it's a no for me. There was something last night from the mirror that Manchester United officials have travelled to London for talks with West Ham over a possible move for Fernandes with discussions focused on payment structure. If progress is made, an opening bid could follow within the next 48 hours. West Ham value the midfielder at 70 to 80 million, leaving a notable gap for the two clubs to bridge.

47:09I mean, look, I would not be surprised talking about, you know, public perception. I would not be surprised that hot on the heels of Anderson to Man City, Man United push ahead on Fernandes. But I would say, look, Fernandes has got a lot of potential. but there's a very big difference between signing Fernandes from West Ham and Edison from Atalanta and being in the conversation for Elliot Anderson and I can't be a hypocrite I've said this for many years we're a long way behind Arsenal and Man City if we want to close the gap you've got to buy players they want you can't go buying players they don't want and expect to close the gap because basically you need Edison or Fernandes, who aren't there at the moment, to be the next Chumini or Tonali or Anderson.

48:01And maybe they can be, but how long does that take? Does it even happen? If we're going to keep buying potential over ready to go, we'll always be potential. So look, I'm not knocking the signing of Fernandes. it probably will move now because they know they're not getting Anderson. But, you know, why are we going for Fernandes? Is it because he's going to be 60 million instead of 100? Or is it because we think he's better than Anderson? Or is it because Anderson's chose City and that's all we can get? These are answers we don't have the answer to, of course.

48:41Yeah, I've done that one as well. Thank you.

48:50Yeah, I will mention this again. Just keep an eye on Real Madrid as well. Chumini is still potentially a possibility. All sorts going on with Real Madrid at the moment. Florentino Perez is the current president. Presidential elections are happening this week. It's expected that he will win, but the opposition has said that if he wins, he's going to buy Rodri and Haaland. Harland people have come out and said good luck to Real Madrid but we're not going so it's not great for that person but also Perez is on the offensive as well apparently they're going to go for Vitinha they've been linked to Jauneves obviously they've been linked to Rodri

49:34Real Madrid will be a real force I think next season that's not my conversation my conversation is when they start buying midfielders that's when it gets interesting because Valverde and Bellingham are expected to stay. If they then bring in the likes of Itinia or a Jean-Eves or a Rodri, then, you know, does Ciumini sit on the bench or does he push for a move? I still think Ciumini could be our saviour this summer transfer window. We've got to get a marquee signing in. It looks like Anderson might not be happening because we're not even bidding. So I still think Ciumini could happen. I might be massively naive, you know, but I do hear things and I still do think that could happen.

50:20I foresee United's spin saying that Orozco is the third centre midfielder. Oh, yeah. And that worked really well with Leon and Kone and Obi, didn't it, as well? So, again, the thing about Orozco is that we brought him in, he's the next Casido, etc. But we've cried wolf again on that too many times as well. Leon was meant to be ready to go. Kone was meant to be ready to go. Obi was meant to be ready to go. So again, they're kids as well. They can't be part of the roster. They've got to be in addition to the roster so that even if they do do well, we can take them in and out. Costas says, we're always playing bloody catch up in the market.

51:02Some of these signings should have been done to build the squad as we always screw the transfer window. Sir Alex would never be beaten in the market. And has Anderson commented on City and United interest? Yeah, but VX as well. I mean, I was quite hopeful that because the World Cup starts a week today and because most World Cup teams are in the US now and because Anderson hadn't signed for City, I was sort of hoping it was going to go after the World Cup because that benefits us anyway. You know, the City charges come out, he might change his mind. But more importantly, it allows us to work on other deals because the minute Elliot Anderson signs for Man City for 105 million, that's a marker in the sand for everybody else to say, well, he went for that.

51:45So we want this. But obviously Man City have put a bid in. Now, Man City have probably put a bid in because they're thinking if he does well in the World Cup, that price is going to go up. So they'll probably go back with another bid before the weekend. And that deal could be done before the World Cup. And then that's a reason for Man United to move quickly on Fernandes because once Elliot Anderson's done and it's 105 million, West Ham can say, okay, maybe Fernandes isn't Elliot Anderson and maybe he's not Declan Rice. But in the last few days and in the last few years, Declan Rice has gone for 105 million to Arsenal and Elliot Anderson's gone for 105 million to Man City from Forest.

52:30so we want 70 for Fernandes so if we want Fernandes we do need to move a bit quick because once the Elliot Anderson deal is done it will put a marker in the sand for the midfield prices this summer and obviously they won't ask for 100 million but they can ask for 70 thank you very much for that done that one as well great show this morning by the way thanks everybody's tuning in please do make sure that you are subscribing to the channel as well bottom right hand corner to do that we're very close to uh 268 000 actually so make sure you're getting involved um we have got a what have we got we've got we have got a two o 'clock show for you and an eight o 'clock show um i'm back with you for that one as well um two um just just some quick united stand stuff as well really exciting things being worked on at the moment ahead of the new season um i know it's about to go crazy with the world cup and look i'll be honest in previous years sometimes a world cup happens and we're all on that's football because it's the world cup and i'm not i'm not debating that it probably will happen for the first two weeks because there's games there's three or four games it is crazy but i also think that there's going to be a lot going on over here um sometimes when a major tournament happens it does reduce the amount of stuff going on and i'll tell you why because journalists if it's a bank holiday monday it'll be a quiet day because they're off there'll be a lot of journalists covering the world cup and it's busy so what happened you know they can't cover two things at once but i'm telling you now the journalists that stick covering transfer stuff over the world cup will make corn make hay because there's going to be a lot of stuff going on it's i was speaking to that agent a couple of days ago um you know i was talking to yesterday about the the fernandez west ham thing and what what will be happening there and they were saying look it's not going to shut down the the window is too the transfer window is too important for too many teams liverpool new manager man city new manager Chelsea, new manager.

54:47Man United, new manager. Real Madrid, new manager. There's so many clubs that need to do stuff. They can't sit and wait until the back end of July and say, let's go to work. They have to be working now. And there's a lot of players that aren't playing at the World Cup that are available. So I think it's going to be very busy. And even if United only signed five players, we average six weeks per deal. so we need to do a deal every two to three weeks just to buy five players before the season's transfer window is over so I think it will be busy thank you everybody for tuning in this morning do you think we'll still get Belaba says GK I don't think you can rule it out we shouldn't be but I don't think you can rule it out because you know what if Elliot Anderson is hard Belaba is easy nobody wants Belaba and he's desperate to sign for us and that's your And I think sometimes that's the ambition of Man United in a sentence.

55:46Is it easy? Let's do that. Let's see. Thanks everyone for watching. Great show this morning. I'll speak to you all in a bit. Take care, stay safe. And thank you very much for watching. Oh, career mode should be on today. Yes. I'm waiting to see when the update comes out on FC26. But career mode with Portugal should be today. I just need to set it up again. I might do it about three o 'clock. We'll wait and see. Thank you.

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