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1:01Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United transfer news and we're talking late bids for Elliot Anderson with Sir Jim Radcliffe getting involved. Also, Fernandes, George Mendes, his agent has spoken. Is this good? Is this bad for Manchester United? And in the Manchester Evening News, they're reporting that United might ignore the defence this summer and deal with it next summer. Is that an approach you like? Last summer, it was the forward line. This summer, it's the midfield. Next summer, it would be the defence. My only issue I would say with that is, is that not the behaviour of an unambitious club?

1:39Because when I look at Man City or Chelsea or Liverpool, they solve problems in one summer so that they can attack the season. If you're always going to attack the season in bits, by the time we come to the defence next year, there'll be another issue that needs solving the following year. Anyway, let's delve into this story that's talking about this morning. So it's coming from the Mirror, basically saying that Manchester United co-owner Sir Jim Radcliffe is willing to satisfy the wage demands of Elliot Anderson in order to bring him to Manchester United. Anderson currently earns£100 ,000 a week, but Man United would satisfy those with at least a 50 % rise anticipated.

2:20Look, I think this is quite interesting because we were talking last night about this constant Manchester United are monitoring the Anderson deal, that everything about the Anderson deal suggests that he would be going to Manchester City. Every story you read is that he favours Manchester City, but Man United are monitoring the situation. And it's like, well, you know, nine hours after the Romero story came out, you know, I told all the journalists we weren't in for him, nine months of Anderson's the priority and we haven't killed this deal off. So is there something there? You know, people will go bullshit, load of rubbish, la, la, la.

2:57But the reality is the behaviour of Manchester United isn't actually normal when it comes to how we normally deal with players. Even Semenyu in January or late December. We want him. We want him. He goes to Man City. We don't want him. So and that was before that was official. We pulled out. So the fact that we haven't pulled out of this deal, I think you have to you have to take something into account with that. And I do think as well, you know, it always strikes me as hypocritical that we took Omar Barada as our CEO and we took him from Man City where he was a COO, obviously because we liked what he did.

3:31But what he did at Man City is write big checks. What he did at Man City is write big wages. I've never really understood why we've employed Omar Barada for what he did at Man City but then not giving him the tools to do the job he did at Man City I mean at Man City he went out and bought the best players and gave them very good wages and at Man United we're saying we don't want to spend big on wages and we don't want to spend big on transfers we're doing better off getting the Brighton director of football why did we go and get, sorry CEO why did we go and get Omar Barada from Man City? Because he did a good job at Man City with a load of money to bring him to Man United and then go.

4:10There's limitations, if you know what I mean. So, look, I hope that Sir Jim Radcliffe is there saying this is the guy that I want. I mean, I was told a few weeks ago Sir Jim Radcliffe wants it was it was straight after the Forest game. I can't remember who it was who said it, but they basically said, I mean, I just had a thought who it could be. And I definitely would not be allowed to say that. I'll get in trouble. But basically, it was after the Forest game and they said Sir Jim Radcliffe really wants Elliot Anderson. You know, he remembers Brian Robson in the 80s and he wants that type of a midfielder at Manchester United.

4:45So look, if, and we forget this, and it's wrong that we forget this, but if Sir Jim Radcliffe is a lifelong Manchester United fan, he's older than Ricky. And Ricky remembers United getting relegated. Ricky remembers Brian Robson. So I think that with regards to Sir Jim Radcliffe, if he genuinely is a lifelong Manchester United fan, then somebody like Brian Robson would resonate long in his history as an all action midfielder. And you would look at someone like Elliot Anderson and go, he is perfect for Manchester United. And let me just say, anybody, I saw Sky doing it or somebody was doing it, comparing Elliot Anderson to Fernandes.

5:24And it was laughable, the stats they'd chosen. It was like any stat they could find that would work with Fernandes to make him look good, they would use it, right? And I think that it's really important to say that Elliot Anderson is on a different level to Mateus Fernandes. If there's anybody out there thinking that they're similar, they're not. He is absolutely the right person to go for. So let's see. So Jim Radcliffe, if he is a lifelong Man United fan, has to look at these types of deals and go, if you want a legacy, if you want to be the guy that takes Man United back to the top, then these are the sort of deals that you've got to do.

6:10and look, I'll say this now, right? Elliot Anderson, right? Man United's a much bigger club than Man City. You go to the Etihad on a busy day and then you go to Man United, it's chalk and cheese, mate. Like the atmosphere, the history, what Old Trafford is, what Man United is, we are on a different level to Man City. When you talk about brand appeal, we're on a different level to Man City players. When you talk about interaction and interest, we're on a different level to Manchester City. And actually, you know what? If you were signing for us, you'd understand that because we're basically at terms agreed, aren't we?

6:47And our fan base would be losing its shit. Man City, you can see the tumbleweed going around. No one's interested, mate. There ain't Man City fans losing their shit on social media about when are they going to sign. Nothing. They don't do that because they just don't have that history in them to do it. It's not their fault. they just cannot get those eyes on their club. If you were coming to us and it was terms agreed, oh my God, you'd be like, I'm like a rock star. You know, terms agreed with Man City and it's like tumbleweed, no one knows who you are. Also, I mean, fucking hell, mate, Pep Guardiola's not even the manager there anymore.

7:22Did you go to bed at night dreaming of being managed by Maresca? I mean, come on, come on. What are you talking about? And I'm not saying Carrick's a massive step up, but it's Manchester United. like I just I think this is an open goal deal I think it's an open goal deal it can only come down to money and if Sir Jim Radcliffe's willing to write the wages check why are we missing out on this deal it can only come down to money it can I mean I'm sorry like Manchester United or Manchester City we're both in the bloody Champions League as well and you can't use the bloody oh but they've won the league more than us in the last 10 years yeah the guy who did it's not there anymore.

8:00They've got a massive bloody court case coming up as well that could relegate them. We're not getting relegated. So look, I just think this deal, I've always, you know what, I'm getting excited. I've always felt that this deal was doable. Even when everyone says you're a naive idiot. I said, I've heard that many times before. That's not going to stop me. I really do think that this deal can get done by Man United and it comes down to money. It simply comes down to money. And if we're not willing to write checks for players like this, then we're not going to win league titles and the protests need to start and everything else needs to start up again.

8:35Because these types of deals are the deals that define the ambition. You can't put a CEO out there doing an interview with Andy Mitton talking about winning the title and then you don't go and buy these types of players. This is literally the test. Talk about titles. Fine. Deliver titles. This is where you go and do these sort of deals. and you get what you pay for, as Mini Brew says. And look, I don't think anyone's forgetting, he was absolutely unbelievable, unbelievable at Old Trafford a few weeks ago. Man of the match, two assists, all action, absolutely bloody everywhere. Exactly what Man United need in their midfield.

9:13And I said it at the time, you know, I didn't really get to see a lot of Brian Robson. I got to see a lot of Roy Keane, and I'm not saying he's as good as Robson and Keane, But those types of midfielders don't come around very long as well. And also, you know what makes me believe that Sir Jim Radcliffe is driving this? He is a little bit like Michael Carrick's got a British passport. I'm not saying he's like pro-Britain or anything like that. But what I'm saying is I think he does want to have a bit of a British theme running through that team because it's sort of slipping away, isn't it? We don't have Rashford anymore.

9:47Maguire's coming to the end, sure. Mount's a waste of time. So I do think that he will want a bit of like homegrown in that team. And, you know, that makes it worth it as well. So look, we'll have to wait and see here. Apparently it's not over. I'm hoping it's not over. It's a very, very big deal for Man United to do. And, you know, we should be jumping in. The big problem I have with this, before we move on to the Fernandes update, A big problem I have is that it's just not tangible to sit there and go, I understand why he's going to Man City. I absolutely don't. I don't. James is sat in the airport waiting for his flight.

10:29Have a safe flight, James. Hope you're going somewhere nice. But I don't. I find it more frustrating. You know, if Pep was still there, I'd say Man City will win the league next year. If they didn't have any charges hanging over them and Pep was still there, I'd be like, you know, sometimes you do lose these battles. We shouldn't be losing battles to Man City. We shouldn't be losing battles to Man City at the moment. We absolutely shouldn't. Just been sent this bit of breaking news coming in. Barcelona have ended their interest in Marcus Rashford and sent him back to Manchester United after refusing to pay£26 million for him.

11:04The Catalan club walked away from talks, leaving Rashford's future firmly back in United's hand. That's coming from Mail Sport. That's from Chris Wheeler. Barcelona end their interest in Marcus Rashford and send him back to Man United after refusing to pay just£26 million for him. Just quick reaction to that then before I talk about the Fernandes story. I mean, it's just a shit show. It's the ruthless side of football that I was talking about last night. You know, West Ham won£80 million for Fernandes. Unrealistic. Bournemouth won£80 million for Scott. Unrealistic. Barcelona won't pay£25 million for Rashford, who basically had a good season for them.

11:49It's ruthless, isn't it? This is it, you know. And I'm sorry, I almost feel like United are trying to do things by their own rules. We won't pay over 200 grand a week for a player. We won't pay over 80 million pounds for a player. You should be taking Rashford for 25 million. Well, boo fucking who? Life's not fair and football's not fair. You've got to anticipate these things. Now, what we cannot do is end up in a situation where we're hugging each other, welcoming Rashford back, pretending we get on when we don't. Rashford doesn't want to be here. They don't want him. Um, um, but what concerns me about this is that we were talking last night about it's way too soon to panic about our transfer activity.

12:36There's still a lot of things to do. However, you don't want to stack things up to do like, all right, it's the 10th of June today. But in two weeks time, it's nearly the end of June. And if in two weeks time we are where we are today, Edison and nothing else, we've just lost two weeks. and in that time we've stacked another job on and that job is Rashford. So now we need two midfielders, a left back and whatever else and to remove Rashford and that becomes problematic. So, you know, we need him to have a good World Cup. What I would say about Rashford and Bittermoose says Rashford's worth more than£25 million.

13:13Is he though, he's on over£300 ,000 a week, mate. He's coming back to Man United on about£350 ,000 because we're in the Champions League. that's the problem. You know, I think he's 29 this year and he's on 350 grand a week or 300 grand a week. That's the problem. It's the fee. It's the wages. And Man United can't ask for 25 million and then Rashford ask for 300 grand a week. For a club, you're going straight away, okay, so you want 300 grand a week. That's what? 1.2 million pounds a month. times 12 you know we're getting on for 15 million a year in wages so if we give you a three-year contract that's nearly 50 you know 45 million pounds in wages um and man united want 25 million in in it so basically this whole three-year deal is going to cost us 70 million we're not paying that we're not paying 70 million for a 29 year old who's a bit up and down um so i i think i think the wages is the problem.

14:20I think Barcelona take Rashford if Man United lower that price. But United won't lower the price. So Barcelona won't take Rashford. So who else is going to pay that price? So people forget the wages on a three-year deal. And Rashford might want four. That's£60 million in wages. And Man United want£20 as well,£25. So suddenly you're paying£85 million pounds for a player that you've got no sell and value for either. So I sort of understand where clubs are coming from. United think they're in a strong position. They're not. They pissed Rashford off by getting rid of him. They don't want him back on those wages.

15:01He's only got two years left on his deal. Worst case scenario, Rashford says, I'll come back. You'll have to pick me because you know everyone will go mad if you don't. I'm not signing a new deal. and then next year or the year after I'll go for free anyway. So I think that, look, I'll say this. I think Rashford goes to Bayern Munich and I'd love that. Bundesliga rights on that's football. Marcus Rashford at Bayern Munich. I will bloody love that. They wanted Anthony Gordon. I think he'd tear it up in the Bundesliga. I think it's a brilliant, brilliant move for him. but

15:41it's probably going to take a bit of time and a bit of negotiating isn't it but little breaking news apparently Barcelona we don't want Rashford but we sort of suspected that anyway and I feel bad for Rashford you know I do feel bad for Rashford I think when he said he wanted a new challenge I thought you know there had been problems you know we all know the problems but when he said he knew a new challenge a bit like when Pogba left it was like you know what it has gone wrong but all the best in the future not like a nacho he's gone to Barcelona and he's actually done very well he went to Villa and he actually did really well he deserves to find a new home where he can just get on with the rest of his career he's in the England World Cup squad he might even start for England so yeah I think he deserves to find a move I don't think that place is Man United by the way I don't think he's very happy with Manchester United I don't think they're very happy with him I think half our fan base maybe more doesn't want him back either.

16:37And the last thing you want is a 29-year-old Marcus Rashford back in the Premier League because the minute it starts to go wrong, it all goes wrong. So I think there has to be a move found for him. I think Bayern Munich would be perfect. Yeah, I don't. Sorry, I'm going to do one of these a show just to highlight how we get infiltrated by morons. Ecolink says, stop moaning and ranting. Not done any of that. Marquee signings don't always win your titles. Not said that either, but thank you, Ico. You are the idiot of the day. Let's move on to Fernandes. So interesting stuff coming in around Fernandes this morning because George Mendes, who is the agent of Mateus Fernandes, has said this exclusively to Fabrizio Romano.

17:26Vettinia and João Neves were never an option for anyone. They are non-negotiable for PSG. And they are very, very happy in Paris. They will continue collecting trophies. So, Jean Neves and Vettinha are not leaving PSG this summer. They are not leaving. And that's coming in from their agent, George Mendes. However, he has offered three of his clients to Real Madrid. Ruben Diaz, Nunes, Man City and Fernandes West Ham. So what does that do for United's hopes of signing Fernandes? Because I'm telling you now, when Florentino Perez said last week, if I'm the president, I'm going to bring in a Galactico for£150 million, I'm absolutely convinced it's not Alvarez he was going to go for.

18:17I think it was Vettinia or Neves. Obviously, they're not going to leave. So they've got to do something in that midfield now. Now, there is still Rodri and there is still Enzo Fernandes. There is still Fernandes as well, Mateus of West Ham.

18:37So I don't think Real Madrid really want Fernandes. I don't really think they do, but some people do. What I will say is, I got asked this last night, and I don't know where this has come from, by the way, so I can't criticise, ridicule, laugh or say it's true. But somebody told me today, what's the background? noise i've got my fan on garfield i'm a bit hot i'm gonna turn it down a little bit but it just means that i get a bit hot so thank you garfield for that selfish um i i think with regards to sorry i was asked this question yesterday and apparently it was going around at some point last night and i don't know where where because i haven't seen it um matthews fernandez has given manchester united his priority he only wants manchester united now apparently this was floating around last night well it should be floating around your toilet pan because it's a load of shit um that that's that's not true um it's not true um it would be great if it was true but it's not true and i suspect that wherever that's coming from it's coming from a chancer or somebody trying to be relevant in the transfer window whether it be a journalist or whatever because he hasn't given the priority to manchester united because i'm telling you now Now, if Mateus Fernandes had given the priority to Manchester United, it's really this easy, Fabrizio Romano exclusive.

20:02Because Fabrizio Romano gets exclusives from George Mendes and many other people. And George Mendes is Fernandes' agent. So nobody is going to get the exclusive other than Fabrizio Romano or maybe David Ornstein if Fernandes says he only wants Man United. So just be wary. I said this before. The problem with the Fernandes deal is there's people out there with very little proven credibility when it comes to journalism and transfers saying that Man United are in the driving seat. We're not in the bloody driving seat. We're driving, but we're not in the driving seat to get Matheus Fernandes. We're in talks, but other clubs are in talks and we're in other talks with other players as well.

20:45so Matias Fernandes has not given his priority to Manchester United personally he might want to come to Manchester United he might want to go to Real Madrid we don't know the point is West Ham want a lot of money and the player is keeping his options open you ain't heard about Moto Casino Moto has real Vegas slots any game you can find on the floor in Vegas you can play it on Moto I I like my slots hot. Moto's free to play. Like food stamps. In line at the grocery store. At a funeral. In traffic. Keep your eyes on the road. Hop on Moto Casino. Moto Casino got jackpots that are bigger than my belly.

21:21Moto. America's hottest free-to-play social casino. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino. What were prohibited? No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino. America's social casino. Does that story from George Mendez about Vitina and Neves not being available to Real Madrid change the story for Mateus Fernandes to Manchester United. I still stand by what I said last night. I don't think Real Madrid won Fernandes. I really don't. I think it's unlikely that they do want him because I think to Real Madrid, that's not high profile enough. I don't think there's many Real Madrid fans going, we need to get the guy who's been relegated with West Ham.

22:07I just don't sense that that's what Real Madrid will do. And also, if you're Jose Mourinho, it's quite niche to do that, isn't it? Florentino, I know you're going for Rodri and Enzo Fernandes and they're really exciting shirt sellers that are Galacticos that our fans are going to love. But there's this guy who got relegated with West Ham who's got so much potential. And I know you want me to topple Barcelona and win the league very, very quickly and you want me to win the Champions League again. But I'm thinking this guy who got relegated with West Ham is the answer. So I don't think Real Madrid are in for Enzo.

22:41I also think if PSG are keeping Betinha and Neves, they might still want Fernandes, but are they likely to have three Portuguese midfielders? Well, they could do. I mean, Ruiz is Spanish. I think he's coming towards the end. Zaire Emery is probably, you know, is young himself. PSG could look at Mateus Fernandes. They could do. And you're going for three Champions Leagues in a row. They could do that. But does he want to go and play in the French League, having had two years in the Premier League? I think United have got a very good chance of getting him. I do. I think United have got a very good chance of getting Fernandes.

23:17The problem is going to be the price. And I think we're going to have to wait and be patient. Ultimately, yeah, I think that's what's going to happen with him. But I don't feel like Real Madrid are going to be the club that goes for him. And you know what, as Dope says, maybe Zaire Emery could be heading to Liverpool or another club as well. So, yeah, look, I think keep your eye on Fernandes, but just be wary of false prophets saying he's chosen Man United. He hasn't chosen Man United. Not yet. Not last night he hadn't. I mean, he might be by lunchtime today, but he hadn't last night. I think that, look, it's interesting to me because I saw this in the Manchester Evening News today and obviously I mentioned it at the start of the show and I wanted to bring it in.

24:12Manchester United, where was it here? Yeah, so it was in the Manchester Evening News. Having overhauled the attack last summer and with the aim of doing the same with the midfield this year, 2027, next summer, could be the year of the defence. For now, United will hope their five options for this season can deliver on the pitch. And those five options would obviously be, well, there's more than five options. But I think this is where we go wrong. I think this is where we go wrong. And obviously, in the short term, we need to assess what we do in the midfield. And God, there will be some assessment, judgment day on that midfield when it's done.

24:52and still some people think we might only buy two midfielders, which makes you want to throw up, really. But I think that obviously the midfield has to be sold this morning as well. Rashford's apparently taken Barcelona out of his Insta profile as well, according to Beth, and she would know because she's always on Instagram. So apparently Rashford's taken Barcelona out of his Insta, which will be a pisser for him. You know, it will. I'll say it again. I feel bad for Rashford because I think he did everything he could at Barcelona. He actually had a good season for them. He worked really hard. And they've shit on him a little bit.

25:34They have. They have. But look, Barcelona, to be fair, are Barcelona not the way we should behave? They're fucking ruthless. and we can, I feel bad for Rashford. I do. But the way Barcelona behave, it's about what they think is best for Barcelona. They'll get rid of players that have had a good season for them if they think they can upgrade it. We don't behave like this. Maybe we need to be a little bit more like Barcelona. I mean, fucking hell. How many players do we, Luke Shaw, Mason Mount, Harry Maguire, Deleuze, you know, there's just loads of players that Barcelona would fuck off years ago.

26:15They'd be like, get out. Not because they're bad, but because there's better out there. They don't piss about at Barcelona. And also, they've just won two La Ligas. They're dominating La Liga at the moment. So I'm not going to criticise Barcelona too much. I'm not even going to say I think they should have kept Rashford. I feel bad for him, but it's not like they're getting things wrong, is it? They're the benchmark, says Ken. Yeah, look, yeah, I'm not going to, you know what, actually, I'm not going to moan at Barcelona. I think that they've got every right to do whatever they want to make themselves successful and they are successful.

26:54I feel bad for Rashford because I don't think he could have done any more. But ultimately, I think they see him as too expensive for a player that they're probably not going to start. and I think Bayern Munich would be perfect for him and that's where I'd be looking next but it's a problem for us because it's another problem to solve if Barcelona had just paid the money he'd be gone but now they haven't paid the money so it's like what do we do now? Hayden, thank you very much for your stupid chat Adam says, breaking news Barcelona have ended their pursuit of Rashford. You said that, you did that super chat two minutes ago, Adam, and we spoke about it about eight minutes ago.

27:42So yeah, it's not breaking news because we've already discussed it, but yeah. Record, thank you very much. Patrick Lynch says, Fernandes to Real Madrid doesn't make sense when you look at their transfer history. They don't spend that amount on a young and an experienced player. Jose is not known for buying those players either. this is exactly what i was saying last night patrick i do not believe real madrid want uh mateos fernandez what i do believe is george mendez is trying to get the best deal he can for his clients and you do that by saying that real madrid want him as well and then you get better wages better signing on fees i think it's load of bollocks with real madrid i really do um psg worries me a little bit more because i think they are more about signing players like Mateus Fernandes.

28:31And I think if you put Mateus Fernandes in a midfield with Jauneves and Vettinha, he's going to have a very, very, very good couple of years learning from two very, very good players. They worry me a little bit. Arsenal are very quiet at the moment. They could be a problem, but I don't worry about Real Madrid. A lot of Madrid signings are political in nature. There's no way Perez will sign a relegated midfielder after promising a Galactico. I agree, TB. and ICM Entertainment says Rashford still wants to be here but the club doesn't want him because of his wages Rashford only said he wanted a new challenge because the club briefed the press that they wanted to sell him first I'm sorry mate thanks very much for your super chat but you're talking out of your arse you are like I don't know what what you think's going on I don't know whether you think you're Rashford's mate or what and unless you're his agent under a different name that's not what's happening and also I know you from the chat that you're not Rashford's agent that's not what's happened with Rashford at all Rashford still Rashford doesn't want to be at Man United anymore um Man United when Ineos came in basically decided they wanted to get rid of big wage earners and um it came from the very top it didn't come from Amarim that they wanted him out Rashford's problem is with the board not with the players or the manager um he won't want to come back um and they don't want him back um so end of story um i still think he'd be at barcelona says robert and that that can you know what robert you make a great point for once he could still go to barcelona barcelona saying we don't want rashford now is like saying we're not going to pay 25 million so fuck off and they might have said to rashford mate we really want you but we're not giving Man United 25 million.

30:17And Rashford might have said, I don't bloody blame you. I don't blame you. So they might have said to him, look, go and do your World Cup with England. Go and enjoy yourself. There's three months left at this transfer window. When you've had your holiday after the World Cup, it'll be August. Let's have a look at what the situation is then. And look, if you have a good World Cup, there'll be other clubs interested in you anyway. And, you know, we can pick it up then. So I agree with Robert. I still think he could end up at Barcelona as well.

30:49But maybe he won't. Cut our losses and sell him for 15 millions as Pete. Let's not forget our favourite goalkeepers coming back. Inanna says Seth. Robert McCormack says they've got us by the balls. They always have. Oh, 100%, mate. And look, maybe Rashford hasn't helped himself there because he has been very, I love Barcelona. I love Barcelona. I love Barcelona. You know, I don't think, I think Man United thought they were in a stronger position than they are and they've got no play at all and maybe Rashford was like I only want Barcelona and maybe he should have been a little bit more maybe don't trust the club uh would you take Anana back as the backup goalkeeper says Sanal I don't know whether you're trying to wind me up on this fantastic Wednesday morning but I would rather take a bag of cement back than Anana now it's interesting with Anana it'll be a really boring story but what will happen with Anana is he'll roll into Carrington the first week in July and he'll have his teeth out and people will get really panicky, right?

31:46And he'll be like this and he'll be in training and everyone will be thinking, oh my God, he's back. And then what will happen is he will basically get loaned out. And that's the best thing for him. He'll get loaned out and he will be

32:06a Man United player next season on loan because I think he's got two years left on his contract

32:18so yeah I think that's what will happen but people will panic one right he's not gonna he's not gonna dislodge Le Mans and two he's shit but three he's on 120 grand a week and no one's going to pay that and give us a transfer fee. So he will walk back into Carrington with his bags under his arms, smiling, but just don't panic. Just don't panic about it. During the season, it's easy to forget the owners and their ambitions. It's much more highlighted in the transfer window. Need to start showing it, says Patrick. Spot on, pal. Razor, thanks for your super chat. United 77777 says, sounds like you're saying Barada Wilcox are not equipped to run United.

33:06It's not their fault, so how can we blame them when they don't succeed. I see glazers.

33:14I think, mate, at the end of the day, if you're willing to take the money from the glazers and put yourself in a position as director of football or CEO, I don't think you deserve sympathy. If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen, really. They've got to deliver. If they can't deliver, go and leave the job. They're happy to take their wages, aren't they? I've got no sympathy for people that take the wage and then say it's a difficult job. I mean it's a difficult job Hayden says off topic I've just saw Rashford is coming back but what's happening with Anana and Sancho only just got here if already discussed well Sancho's out of contract Anana we've just discussed Rashford's not coming back he's just not being bought by Barcelona at the moment what people forget about Rashford is as well is it's really not a problem because he's going to be in the World Cup until early mid July he's then going to get three weeks off so even if Rashford comes back to Carrington he won't be coming back until the first week in August people like going oh my god Rashford's coming back he ain't walking in with his bags under his arms and a smile like an honour is he he's not coming back until August so his agent's got two months Wang and I have got two months to search the market you know Real Madrid can pay sorry Real Madrid can only pay around 40 to 50 million for Fernandes so I'm very confident that if nobody pays north of 60 will get him and Anderson for around 150.

34:37What? Jose, Lee, you spoke good stuff there and then you talk shit. What are you talking about? 150 million pounds? I'm paying 150 million pounds. I'm worried Bruno Fernandes to Real Madrid is the most obvious Jose type signing I can see and we would be screwed because I don't think he stays as Pete. I mean, we sort of touched on this a little bit last night. Thanks everyone who's tuning in, by the way. Over 10 ,000 watching, absolute legends. And we sort of spoke about this a little bit last night. I don't think for one minute that...

35:14I don't think for one minute that Real Madrid will go for Bruno. But it's a piece of piss. It's an absolute piece of piss. He has a release clause of 60 million quid. They could just drop 60 million pounds for one of the best players in the world at the moment and say we want him. So they could do it, but I don't think Real Madrid need that type of player. Bruno would be a brilliant player at Real Madrid as well. He would be a brilliant player at Real Madrid. He'd be a brilliant player at Barcelona. He'd be a brilliant player at PSG. I don't think we need to worry about that. If Real Madrid came along and said, there's£60 million release clause, we want to talk to Bruno.

36:00I'm sure he'd talk to them. And, you know, he might find himself in a situation where he's thinking about it. But I don't think they're going to do that. I don't think they need Bruno Fernandes. I'm hoping they don't need Bruno Fernandes. I think they need midfielders. I think they, you know, they obviously want some attackers like flare wingers. but look no that would destroy us that would absolutely destroy us big iron says stop saying that out loud Mark they might hear you but I think a lot of us have thought about it and obviously it was a super chat anyway but I think a lot of us has thought what if Jose Mourinho and Real Madrid just dropped that check for Bruno Fernandes that would fuck everything up you know that it's I think we're stuck in our own debate at the moment about Man United, can they get this midfield right?

36:56And I think some of us think there's plenty of time they can do. And I think some of us think they're going to mess this up. Our whole summer, our whole season next year is about the midfield. If we get this wrong... Here's golf legend John Daly. Hell yeah, these wins are piling up faster than my divorces. I only spent on Moto, America's social casino. You know I've won a couple of majors. And on Moto, I've won majors, grand's, and epic jackpots on their classic Vegas slots with huge, huge bonus rounds. Moto Casino adds new games and awards players free coins every single day. Grip it and spend it on Moto Casino.

37:28Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino. What were prohibited? No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more decades. Moto Casino. America's social casino. I worry about next year. If we get this right, we've got a chance. So the midfield is, you know, it stands and falls on the midfield. Now, you remove Bruno Fernandes out of this team, you can do what you bloody like. it's not it's a big problem it really really does um so i don't think bruno goes but i tell you what though to talk about real madrid man city arsenal whatever this this this thing i was talking about in the manchester evening news having overhauled the attack last summer and with the aim to do the same with the midfield this year 2027 could be the year for the defense this is why we fail you know this is exactly why we fail because we do things in stages and I don't know I don't even want to go down this road it's the summer the World Cup kicks off tomorrow it's the transfer window but I don't really know how they've managed to do this to our fan base but it's basically like a slug a dead slug there is no fight in this fan base anymore it's just whatever they want to do you can do it you know you can do what you like increase ticket prices knock Old Trafford down you know buy whatever you want keep fucking up doesn't matter We're just, there's just nothing going on.

38:50But this is why we fail. Because if last year was the forward line and this year it's the midfield and next year it's the defence, that's two years to build a first team. What about your bench? Three years? By the time you've done that, you'll need to do the forward line again. Two years in football is too long. you can't do it in stages you have to try and do it as quick as possible and we clearly are operating like this last year we ignored the midfield to get the attackers in this summer it's the midfield and we might ignore the defence then next year we'll ignore the defence but we might need an attacker and you're forever kicking the problem down the road and chasing your tail this is not how you win league titles this is not how you build a team that can compete in the Champions League you have to go and solve your problems now for example i think we need a right back it's not even being discussed because it's man united and we won't do it i think we need a right back i think we need a left back many of you think we need a centre back we won't get two of those three we won't get a left back and a centre back we won't get a left back and a right back we might get a left back but we won't get two defenders and i think we probably need three I think if we were Man City or previously Chelsea or Liverpool or whatever, I think we'd be getting three midfielders, three defenders and an attacker.

40:17We'd be buying seven or eight players. We might only buy five. So I don't agree with the sticky plaster routine because it ends up with the sticky plaster football, which is what basically the brilliant results from January to May were brilliant, but it was a bandage. And that bandage was Casemiro, Bruno, Harry Maguire, Michael Carrick. You know, it wasn't scintillating football and performances. It was band-aid football. I often thought bloody Bob Galdoff was going to come and sing at halftime. It was, though. It was that type of amazing effort, football, to get results. But it was makeshift.

40:55And if we want to be a team that competes for titles, then we do need to be able to move efficiently and effectively in the transfer window. So I don't agree with let's put the defence off until next season. let's leave that you know I think you have to solve problems quickly in football and also let's get real it's a business decision isn't it the re what why can't we do the defense and the midfield this summer we haven't got the staff to do it they're not competent enough and we haven't got the money to do it so it all comes down to business it all comes down to money uh d2 says signing for united or real madrid or sorry let me slow down I've just got to drop down a gear here Signing for United or Real Madrid Or United, the press treat you like Michael Jackson But signing for City, the press treat you like Michael Bolton Exactly, exactly It's like signing for Man United Is like Leonardo DiCaprio's got a new film out Let's all turn up and interview him It's like big news Signing for Man City Is like Oli Murs has got a new song out No one gives a shit But it is Look, Man City fans won't like it But they know it's true That's why they'll get wound up If you want to talk about starting football and success, Man City, 100%.

42:16Man City are a better team than us. They play better football than us. They win trophies more than us. Yes, they do. You win on that area, but you don't win on interest. No one gives a shit. When I pick up a newspaper, which has not been for years, but if I go on like the BBC website or Sky Sports News, I guarantee you there'll be six, seven, eight articles linked to us. You'll be lucky if you find one or two with Man City. And it's going to get worse without Pep. Pep Guardiola actually gave Man City a little bit of focus. Maresca. Fucking hell. I mean, Maresca is about as interesting as a tin of grey paint.

42:59And look, I thought he was doing a good job at Chelsea, but he ain't interesting. He's boring. They're going to get even more boring. This can only be money. And I don't care what any Arsenal fan says or Man City fan says. You know it's true. United are big news. We're big news. Whether we're 15th in the league or third, we're big news. we have a huge following we have huge interest in manchester united uh arsenal to be fair do um liverpool do um chelsea to a certain extent man city not really um the interest just isn't there with man city and you know why the interest isn't there with man city they do have a fan base they probably could argue that there's millions of man city fans out there but you know why they don't have any interest because they've got no jeopardy.

43:54Jeopardy makes a club interesting. If you look at Liverpool, hadn't won the Premier League in the entirety of the Premier League, were really struggling, fallen giants, there's a story. Arsenal, yeah, Wenger out, not won the league for 20 years, bottlers, there's a story. Man United, since Sir Alex Ferguson, we're like a bloody rollercoaster. Man City, there's a load of money, Oh, we win it now. There's a load more money. Oh, we keep winning. There's no drama with Man City. It's like the story is we're rich, we're successful. Let's buy another superstar. So there's no story with Man City. And that's why people aren't interested because there's just no story.

44:38There's no jeopardy there. What does this mean about Elliot Anderson? Well, he's a bloody idiot if he wants to sign for Man City, isn't he? He should come sign for Man United. It'll be the biggest mistake he makes. But the biggest mistake he makes, if he comes to Manchester United, he'll have adulation. He'll be the next Brian Robson. He'll be the next Roy Keane. If he goes to Man City, he'll be rich. That's what it comes down to. I don't even think I would respect signing for Man City if Pep Guardiola was still there. But I just think Man City's not the place to go to at the moment. And I do think that that court case, by the way, is relevant.

45:17But I don't know which way it's going to go. I can't sit here and say he's stupid because they're going to get relegated. Maybe they will, but maybe they won't. But I just think it's a bad choice. But in fairness to Elliot Anderson, he could sit there watching this and go, what's this prat talking about? I would go to Man United, but his stupid club won't put an offer in. He might be like, what do you want me to do? I mean, Man City are the only people who are going to give me 250 grand a week and pay Forrest what they want. Of course I'm going to go there. I'm not staying at Forrest. I want to play in the Champions League.

45:48he might not have a choice to make because we might not be making that choice but we fucking should be um when a team needs as much as we do i think you need to improve as many areas as quickly as you can focusing on just one area leaves other areas weeks as ian yeah i mean look if we improve the midfield next season we will be a better team but we will still have problems at fullback we will still have problems at center back um i can see us buying five six players three midfielders, a left back, a backup striker, and maybe a left winger, depending on what they decide on Dorgou. He's more suited to left wing than right wing, says Razzler.

46:26Yeah, I mean, I don't know why people don't think Dorgou's a winger. I mean, can I just say something controversial? I think that Dorgou, as a winger, has the potential to be better than Ahmad Mbemou and Konya. Different type of winger, but I think he has the potential to be better than all of them. I'm not saying he's going to be the next Gareth Bale, but people were very surprised when Gareth Bale went from an underperforming fullback to one of the best wingers in the world. I do think he could be a huge player for us.

47:07Paul Shannon says, it's always opposing players who are excited to play at Old Trafford. Who gets excited to play at the Etihad? Yeah, true, fair point. well made hypothetical Bruno to get top three midfield targets sell Bruno to get top three midfield targets no no yeah no Romano's apparently said something about the Rashford situation let me have a quick look

47:39Bruno Bruno Bruno Barcelona will not pay 30 million buy option for Marcus Rashford. It expires in five days. Rashford formally set to return to Man United, but Barca remain open to new solutions like another loan deal. Barca open to discuss again if Man United open the doors. Oh, Robert McCormack FC. This is what I mean. We're both right on this. Robert started it, to be fair. That door's not being closed to Barcelona. That's not being closed to Barcelona. That's basically Barcelona saying we are not going to pay £25 million for a player that we've then got to give another£50 million in wages to over the next three years.

48:18We will take him on loan or we will take him at a cheaper deal. And that puts it into our court now because the bottom line is,

48:33it's very clever from Barcelona. It's like we don't think he's worth£25 million because he has huge wages. so we will take him and we will pay for him for another year if you want and we'll do a loan deal but it's up to you so it's quite clever by Barcelona because it's basically saying we're not sending him back we do want him but we're not paying what you want so you know I'd find another buyer very very quickly um clever but look I'm I you know what I started off being a bit pissed off with Barcelona. I actually think, fair play. You know why we don't like it? Because we're not used to a football club behaving like that.

49:16It's ruthless. It's aggressive. And we've been saying United need to be like this for a long time. You know, we're too passive. We're too weak. That's just ruthless, that is. They're just twisting our balls, man. You know? Jose loves a DM like Makaleli, SEM, so I cannot see him letting Chumini leave. City are favourites to get Anderson and we don't seem to want Tonali. So is Fernanda's our best option? Please not Belay versus Andy Atherton.

49:46Mate, I mean, you could drive yourself mad thinking about who, what, where, when, why. We'll have to wait and see how it pans out. We could end up with Belayba. We could end up with Anderson. You know, all options are on the table at the moment. So I just sort of look at it and go, why get too stressed? The truth will reveal itself. If Anderson's holding up a Man City shirt and Chumini's staying at Real Madrid and Tonali's holding an Arsenal shirt, we fucked up. I think that's unacceptable. We can talk about other options, but ultimately there was three marquee replacements for Casemiro and we're replacing Casemiro here.

50:29Three times Champions League winner, starter for Brazil, one of the most experienced holding midfielders in the game. Huge influence on the pitch and in the dressing room at Man United. We knew this was happening for 12 months. If you're telling me we're going to end up with Belaber or Fernandes or Scott as a replacement for Casemiro, we fucked up. There was three options. There was four options. There was Bruno Gamerez, Tonali, Anderson and Chiamini. Four viable replacements for Casemiro. If we don't get any of them, that's a disgrace an absolute disgrace um fernandez should not be the replacement for casemiro it's two big shoes to walk into he should be coming in as the second shelf player top shelf always should have been anderson tonali chumini or bruno g and if we don't get any of them we fucked up in my opinion but we haven't done that yet still time to get one of those um what's attracting anderson to city may be the team, says VX.

51:34Money. Be money, mate. It will be, this is your wage, this is your signing on fee, and this is what we're going to pay to Forest. I don't think United have done that yet. From what I've been told, I don't think United have done that yet. What are we monitoring? We'll have to wait and see. Kyle says they've just released the retained and released list. Thank you very much. when a team needs to do as much as we do I think you need to improve as many areas as quickly as you can focusing on just one area leaves other areas weak I've done that one from Ian as well thank you let me just have a check here thanks for everybody tuning in today by the way 8 o 'clock tonight 2 o 'clock this afternoon got Ben Jacobs on tomorrow not today I'm losing days I keep thinking today's Thursday the World Cup starts tomorrow

52:37um what's this here uh lecaba forget it um

53:10sorry i thought i thought there was something going on about something else there uh sorry just came back come back romano rashford if not seen says robert mccormack you missed your shout out Robert we were literally just talking about how you know the door will still be open with Barcelona they just don't want to pay the fee that United want and I remember as having probably us two having this chat only um three or four months ago when Man United were going they will they will not let Rashford go back on loan they will only take 25 million pounds and the hilarious thing about that is you can act Billy Big Bollocks.

53:48Same with Anana. You can act Billy Big Bollocks saying Anana's not coming back. He bloody well is. We don't have a play. If Barcelona send him back, what are we going to do? Oh, you better pay£25 million. They're just going to go piss off. And we're going to be paying£325. I don't know what Rashford's base wages but there's a Champions League boost. So from July the 1st, hold this in your hats. From July the 1st, we're about to pay Casemiro's wages again. Have we figured it out yet? So for the last year, Rashford's wages have been paid 100 % by Barcelona. On July the 1st, that contract's over.

54:36Marcus Rashford comes back and instantly is going to be paid over 300 grand a week. So all these people knocking one out because we're not paying Casemiro's wage anymore. On July the 1st, it's back. Solve that one. Oh, we're doing such a great job at Man United We're doing such a great job at reducing the wage bill On July the 1st, Rashford is not even going to be here For a month of July We're going to be paying them 300 and something grand a week

55:11So, United aren't in control of this situation at all Billy Big Bollocks ain't going to get them very far, is it? It's a lot of money A lot of money. Back to square one. No, there are solutions, but we're going to end up paying his wages for about a month and a half, definitely. Yeah, I can't see his finding. I mean, look, never say never, but the solution can't be, I love Man United, I'm back. We love Marcus, you're back. I mean, I think everyone will see through that one. But look, ultimately, the only thing that bothers me about it is it's just another thing to solve. and you know if you've got a busy day at work and you've got a load of tasks to do and you're like I'm never going to get it all done and then your boss says and here's a load of more stuff and I need it by five o 'clock I feel like the Rashford thing's a bit like that now it's just another thing to do and we're already very busy but I think you'll end up at buy-in I've been saying this for six weeks I think Rashford will end up at buy-in um let's see right and I'll tell you where I'm going to end up in the kitchen making a coffee I forgot to bring it in today I'm desperate thank you everybody for watching he could end up back to Barcelona on loan why is it always United paying high wages then struggled to sell them hence Rashford and they only see him as a backup then a starter because Man United behaved stupidly in the transfer market for years and handed out stupid contracts we don't behave like Barcelona they're ruthless in getting rid of players and they're ruthless in getting what they want we make stupid mistakes and then get stuck with them for years because the Glazers will never take a loss.

56:52Some clubs will go, they're on a wage, let's get rid of them, pay them off, get them out. Man United don't. We just don't have that policy, which is why we'll keep shit for years. Stay safe. I'll speak to you in a bit. Take care.

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