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18 Jun 2026 · 45m · 20 chapters

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439: Huge TRANSFER Mistake! Rashford RETURN?

In short

Manchester United transfer news and debate over whether Marcus Rashford should return after his World Cup goal and Barcelona social media posts. Mark Goldbridge also argues United are moving too slowly and getting outbid by rivals (Spurs, City, Liverpool, Arsenal) for higher-impact midfield/wing targets.

Guest backgrounds

The episode is hosted by Mark Goldbridge with chat/community input; named “guests” are not interviewed. Mentioned names include Jared Bowen, J. Somerville, Alex Scott, Elliot Anderson, Tonali, Fernandes, plus referenced agents/insiders like Fabrizio Romano, Ben Jacobs, and George Mendes.

Key claims

United must bid for “needle-movers” (Elliot Anderson, Tonali, Diamande, Chiumini) rather than targets like Bowen/Somerville; rivals are paying big fees/wages. Rashford’s return is “nuanced”: he’d solve a left-wing need but risks toxic scrutiny and repeats of his last 18 months at United. Poll: 71% say no.

Notable examples

Barcelona tweeting Rashford as their player; Spurs reportedly bidding ~£100m for Tonali; Liverpool/PSG linked to Diamande; Real Madrid interest in Fernandes; Goldbridge compares Rashford return to “bringing Ronaldo back” ending in tears.

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Chapters

0:45

Debating Rashford's Return

Discussion on whether Marcus Rashford should return to Manchester United.

“Are we overreacting because of one good goal in the World Cup?”
3:00

Transfer Market Updates

Latest updates on potential transfers and players linked to Manchester United.

“And there is a story this morning about Alex Scott, and I was tentatively not going to talk about it last night because I was like, I don't want to acknowledge it.”
7:00

Concerns Over Transfer Strategy

Exploration of worries about Manchester United's transfer strategy and competition.

“I know we can't afford all three, but we might get one.”
10:00

Should Rashford Come Back?

Analyzing the implications of Rashford's potential return to Manchester United.

“To those of us that have been monitoring Rashford since he left, he has been doing this on the regular for Villa and Barcelona.”
12:00

Revisiting Rashford's Departure

Reflection on why Rashford was loaned out and the complexities of his return.

“Rashford loves Man United, which I think he does.”
14:00

Rashford's Potential Return: Concerns and Hope

Discussion on the difficulties and potential issues of Marcus Rashford returning to United.

“Now that would be a very big thing to rebuild.”
14:50

Barcelona's Interest and Rashford's Future

Examining Barcelona's interest in Rashford and its implications for his career.

“We've mended those issues and we're working together again.”
16:30

Fan Opinions on Rashford's Future

Analyzing fan opinions regarding Rashford's potential return and club management.

“But that door, that conversation is 100 % open.”
18:16

The Risks of Bringing Back Players

Discussing the potential pitfalls and challenges of bringing back former players.

“If I'm asked if I want Jared Bowen or Marcus Rashford, Marcus Rashford.”
20:38

Defining Success for Rashford's Return

Exploring what success would look like for Rashford if he returns to United.

“Even Ronaldo, the biggest player we've ever brought back in my...”
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22:50

Community Support and Personal Stories

Reflecting on community support and personal messages from fans during tough times.

“So, you know, that sort of could open up that conversation again.”
24:22

Club's Transfer Strategy and Future Plans

Discussing United's transfer strategy and the need for effective signings.

“I take him on a wage cut and squad roll.”
28:00

Striker Situation and Transfer Strategies

Discussion on Manchester United's striker situation, focusing on Xerxe and the overall transfer strategy.

“What's going on with the striker situation?”
29:12

Mateus Fernandes Transfer Update

Analysis of the situation regarding Mateus Fernandes and Man United's negotiation stance with West Ham and Real Madrid.

“But going back to that question about Mateus Fernandes, I can only see Anderson in red, says Tahil Ineos.”
31:08

The Challenge of Sellable Assets

Exploration of Manchester United's difficulties in selling players and generating funds for new transfers.

“You know, that's that's sort of my my thought process is pitch a bid in at a competitive price.”
35:46

Chumini's Potential Impact

Discussion on Chumini's potential signing, his capabilities, and the influence he could bring to the team.

“Does everyone forget the crap that was coming out of the dressing room when Rashford was there?”
39:08

Final Thoughts on Transfers

Concluding thoughts on the transfer market strategy and potential signings for Manchester United.

“But I also think that he would be such a smart upgrade.”
42:03

Transfer Speculations: Who Should Manchester United Target?

Discusses potential transfer targets for Manchester United and their implications.

“Spurs would be interested, but they're not in the Champions League.”
43:34

Rashford's Return: A Hot Debate

Engages listeners in a debate about the possibility of bringing Rashford back to the team.

“that's going to be a problem I don't subscribe to the opinion that it's panic stations.”
43:56

Show Wrap-Up and Future Updates

Summarizes the show and highlights upcoming discussions and updates.

“Get in the comments as well, as well as about everything else as well.”
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0:01Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest transfer news. Well, I tell you what, it might be coming home from Manchester United. I'm coming home. I'm in the studio today. Welcome to the show. Lots to get into. Jared Bowen, Somerville, Alex Scott, Elliot Anderson, Tonali, Fernandes. Loads to get involved in. Lots of updates. Get your opinions in. I think it's going to be a bit of a debate show today, actually, because the one thing I wanted you to get in the comments about, whether you're watching live or not, should Marcus Rashford be coming back to Manchester United?

0:34Barcelona tweeting about him last night like he's their player. He's our player. You didn't pay for him. Should Rashford be coming back to Man United or has that ship sailed? Are we overreacting because of one good goal in the World Cup? We'll delve into that. I think it's quite nuanced, Rashford, and I'm probably the most balanced I've ever been about it. I think there's pros and cons, but let me know whether you're watching live or not, what your thoughts on Rashford are, and we'll get into that debate in a moment. But let's start off with some of the latest transfer news. So Fabrizio Romano and Mateus Fernandes, Real Madrid are still interested, United still negotiating.

1:11Not a lot to add in relation to that, if I'm being honest. But where I think we do need to start on the show today is that there is a bit of a transfer warning. and there is a bit of an expectation on Man United to actually start making the moves we need to make. There has been some stories this morning linking us to Jared Bowen again, and we're aware of Somerville. Now, whether you want to ignore those stories or acknowledge those stories, they're the sort of business Everton are going to do. We're Manchester United. I'm looking at Liverpool and Diamande. I'm looking at Man City deciding on whether to go for Anderson or Tonali or both.

1:51We're looking at this Arsenal news this morning about Alex Scott. We're looking at Mateus Fernandes and maybe Real Madrid will move in. And my concern is, is that, yeah, guess what? We're patient. It's only just the start of the transfer window. But a lot of the targets that we would want to be at Man United could move off the shelf very quickly. It's all right about doing your Christmas shopping. And, you know, it's December the 1st and saying there's three and a half weeks left till Christmas. but if someone says, you know, everything on your list is sold out, pop down John Lewis, pop online, you know, that air fryer you want is gone.

2:28And don't get, I haven't said who I'm buying the air fryer from. I'm not sexist or anything like that. I'm just saying maybe an air fryer is on your list for somebody, right? They're all sold out. Well, it's three and a half weeks till Christmas. Well, they're all sold out. You're not going to get one. And I think that is a different thing to panicking about, oh, you know, we're not doing any business. We're not too early for that. It is only the middle of June. But what it's not too early for is a lot of the targets that we might want could be off the shelf quite quickly if we're not careful.

3:00And there is a story this morning about Alex Scott, and I was tentatively not going to talk about it last night because I was like, I don't want to acknowledge it. But it's come out again this morning. I think it was Alex Scott who works for Ben Jacobs, Talk Sport. Arsenal seriously pursuing a deal for Alex Scott also considering going for Tonali as well. I think that my concern is, I do think we'll get Mateus Fernandes and I'd love to know how everybody thinks this is going to land. I've got the World Cup in my hand here. I need to put it down. I'd love to know how people think this is going to land.

3:34But if we don't get Mateus Fernandes or we do get Mateus Fernandes, who's the third midfielder going to be? And if we don't get Mateus Fernandes, who's the second and third midfielder going to be? because all I see at the moment is Tenali's definitely going to go somewhere that's not Old Trafford. Anderson, we'll talk about in a moment, but it looks like that's going to be Man City. He was fantastic last night, by the way, as well. Alex Scott now looks like it's Liverpool or Arsenal and all roads lead to fucking Belaber, don't they? So I'm a little bit like, are we being slow on purpose so that we can sign the player we really want, which is Belaber?

4:11Or are we being slow because we're unambitious? Or do we have a master plan in our back pocket where Arsenal can have Scott, Liverpool can go and get Wharton, Man City can get Anderson and Tonali because we're going to get Mateus Fernandes and Chiamini, in which case, sit back and relax. That's not too bad. Edison, Chiamini, Mateus Fernandes, that's not too bad. So, look, maybe we don't need to panic, but I do think you need to acknowledge that there are definitely concerns around not the speed in which we're doing business, but what is going off the shelf potentially from other people. I think that's really important.

4:56And look, if you want an opinion piece on the transfers, I'm a Man United fan. Most of you are Man United fans. And I look at what's going on around in this market and it's still it and I will spend a minute on this it still really annoys me that Tottenham are willing to go and spend 100 million pounds on Tonali they're not even in the Champions League last summer when we weren't in Europe what were we told oh we're not in Europe we can't spend money and we all sat there and went to be fair we're all accountants at Man United now the Financial Times is coming in an hour get me the Kleenex out I'm getting and excited.

5:33We've been turned into accountants by our owners that when we're not in Europe, we go, well, we can't afford the big players. We can't afford the big players. Spurs aren't in Europe. They're bidding for Tonali. So we were mugged off 12 months ago for a start. We shouldn't have sat there 12 months and gone 12 months ago and go, we can't buy big players. You can buy big players. Spurs are in for bloody Tonali, 100 million quid. Man City are thinking about going for Tonali and Anderson. Liverpool are looking to buy Diamande for£100 million. And we're sat there going, we won't overpay. We don't want to pay big wages and we won't pay a greater million pounds.

6:08That's my bugbear this summer. I'm not actually concerned about the pace of the window as long as we get what we need. But what I am concerned about is that we're getting outbid by teams that aren't even in Europe. I mean, are we operating to a budget that's not actually much better than Everton's. Because if Spurs are willing to pay£100 million for players, why aren't we? And if I'm waking up this morning, I'm Sir Jim Radcliffe and I'm going like this. Hello? Actually, you need a proper phone. I picked up the World Cup. I'm going, hello? That's the sort of thing Wilcox would do. Hello? Jason, you're using the World Cup as a phone.

6:46It doesn't matter. It's about as effective as me using the phone because no one listens to me Anyway, I would say I'd be on my phone if I was Sir Jim Radcliffe this morning. I'd be like, Jason, it's Sir Jim. Get a bid in for Elliot Anderson, Diamonde, Tenali by 12 o 'clock today. Do it. I know we can't afford all three, but we might get one. Well, let me deal with Joel Glazer. We're doing it, right? because they're the sort of deals that are going to make Michael Carrick succeed. They're the sort of deals that are going to make you happy. They're the sort of deals that are going to make Man United move to the next level.

7:30And it's nothing to do with the World Cup. The World Cup just verifies it. Diamande is going to be a superstar. You can't let him go to Liverpool. The news on Diamande is it's from Ben Jacobs, it's Liverpool and PSG. Diamande is going to make us brilliant. Elliot Anderson is going to make us brilliant. Tonali is going to make us brilliant. These players should be what Man United are bidding for, not bloody Somerville or Jared Bowen. So that's my bugbear about the transfer window at the moment is I want us to bid for the players that are going to make us good. And I disagree with those fans out there talking about overpaying.

8:07If Tottenham are willing to overpay and Liverpool are willing to overpay, Manchester City in the last 18 months, if they get Anderson in excess of 300 million quid in the last 18 months, if they get Tenali as well, 400 million quid in the last 18 months, and they finish second. We want to win leagues and we can't compete with the team that's finished second. And don't talk to me about Man City being title winners. Man City haven't won the league for the last two years. And they're spending upwards of half a billion in the last two years. That's how you compete. You don't go and get Jared Bowen or Jimmy Somerville.

8:49Not Jimmy Somerville. Don't go and get him. He's too old. That's how you compete. So look, my issue is that. Let me know your thoughts. Now, I have to talk about Rashford. I was meant to talk about Rashford at the start. I need to get a poll running here. And I'm not on my normal thing. Oh, this is going to be very easy. Should... That's not doing capitals. Should... That's not how you spell should. This will be the best bit of the show. Should Rashford return. And we'll go for a poll there. I'm not going to look at that. I'm not going to look at that. Please do share the video if you're watching, by the way, this morning.

9:32And make sure you smash a like on the video. I'm not often in the studio. So it deserves at least 3 ,000 likes from the live people. get involved. So look, I didn't actually think I'd be talking about Marcus Rashford this morning and a return to Manchester United, but it's very well-timed. Took his goal very well yesterday. If that's a wake-up call to Man United fans for you to make a decision this morning, that's absolutely fine. To those of us that have been monitoring Rashford since he left, he has been doing this on the regular for Villa and Barcelona. That wasn't the return of Rashford scoring for England off the bench last night.

10:13He has been doing that sort of thing consistently for Villa and Barcelona for the last 18 months. That's why he's in the England squad. So if you're waking up this morning buzzing about Rashford scoring in England, so am I, that is not the reason I'm saying Rashford return. The reason I'm posing this question is because he's on quite a lot of money. Barcelona didn't pay the transfer fee. He's coming back to Man United after the World Cup. They're all facts at the moment. He's a Man United player. So when he scored last night and I went United, United, United, maybe he will leave. But right here, right now, he's a Man United player.

10:54He's not a Barcelona player. And he will be coming back unless anything changes. The question is, should he be coming back and will he come back? And look, the case for it is we do need a left winger. He's already on the books. He costs nothing other than his wages, which are very expensive. And, you know, it solves a problem that we have in the team. The case against is a little bit longer. The case against is he struggled at Man United in his last 18 months. The case against is he was unsettled at Manchester United in the last 18 months The case against is Man United forced him out the door The minute Ineos came in and we'll talk about that in a moment And the case against is he wanted a fresh challenge And the case against is half this fan base don't want him back And the case against is the media will be on him from the minute he comes back So what I'm thinking is, bring him back.

11:56Bring him back. Let's give him another chance. Let's do all the PR. Let's Carrick talk about him. Rashford loves Man United, which I think he does. Bring him back. Let's do the Amazon documentary. Bring him back. It's a big story. It's like a new signing. To be honest, I wish I'd never said that. I've literally just saved the Glazers 100 million quid. They'll be watching this this morning because I know they do. And they'll go, we never thought of that. episode one, Rashford comes back. It'll be like bringing Ronaldo back. We don't even need to spend any money. It's like a new signing. But anyway, you bring him back.

12:29First four games, United unbeaten. Rashford's got four goals. Oh, this is amazing. Game six, away. Tottenham lose 2-0. Rashford doesn't track back. What we brought him back for? Wasted time. Get him out of our club. And it goes toxic very quickly. They're the concerns. They are the concerns for me. So I'm very balanced about it Today I am more open to it than I was yesterday And in a month I might be more open to it than I am today But I can't remove those barriers They're not for me to remove And going back to Manchester United It is well known And if you remember it came out last week or the week before that it wasn't Amrim that decided to get rid of Rashford.

13:19Amrim was told we're getting rid of Rashford. Amrim facilitated it, but Man United wanted him out. Now, maybe that was post the Belfast stuff. Maybe it was not. Personally, I think it was the wages. I think Ineos came in and said, Sancho, Casemiro, Rashford, ridiculous wages, get rid of them. They tried to get rid of Casemiro two summers in a row, nobody would take him and now he's gone. Sancho, nobody would take him and he's about to run his contract down. And Rashford, they got rid of on loan and covered his wages off. So never think that it was just Rashford saying he wanted out and a fresh challenge.

14:00United wanted him out. Now that would be a very big thing to rebuild. Mistrust between a player and club coming back together would be problematic, regardless of what we think as fans. So I would say for me, I'm sort of like swaying towards, I don't see how this could work. I think it's like, I don't see how this could work. But I'm not going to sit here and say, absolutely, no way, never. But I just don't see how it could work. And I don't think it's for us to solve that. The club would have to solve it. And I tell you what, if they do bring him back, I would hope that Rashford or the club all together acknowledge why it went wrong and don't sweep it under the carpet and treat us like idiots.

14:48I would want them to go, look, it did break down. It did go sour. We've mended those issues and we're working together again. I don't want to get treated by it like an idiot and them to pretend like everything was OK, because clearly something did go off.

15:06But to add a little bit to that as well Last night, Barcelona literally posted about Anthony Gordon and Marcus Rashford in the World Cup Like they were their players Now, Anthony Gordon is their player Marcus Rashford isn't I think Rashford probably wants to stay in Barcelona Barcelona sort of dropped the ball a little bit on that if Rashford does what I think he will do, have a good World Cup, why are Barcelona letting him go and Rashford probably wants to stay there? So at the end of the day, this might be the thing that defines Rashford's future. What happens with this? Because he scored last night and, you know, for United, this could be the key.

16:00the question would be and some people have said even if Barcelona come in even if Bayern Munich come in we should still keep Marcus Rashford well there is an added point to this as well he's only got two years left on his contract if we bring him back we'd have to give him a contract pretty quick we could we can't afford to go let's see how it goes for the next year and let him be 12 months off from his last, you know, his contract. So ultimately, I still think he leaves. And it's best for everybody. But that door, that conversation is 100 % open. Absolutely. Let me have a quick look at some of your comments that are coming in as well.

16:41I'm rubbing the wrong thing here. I've had a super chat here from Daniel. He says, hope all well. Great watch along last night. It's a snooze you lose situation. If we keep waiting and penny pinching, we'll miss out and our rivals get stronger. Pay the extra for success. Don't save a little by pay the extra for success. Don't save a little for mediocrity. Thank you, Daniel. Also, we've got Jackie saying, I reckon that celebrity Marcus shows up and has the season of his life because it's going in an Amazon directory. I say he stays. Look, genuinely, didn't expect to be talking about this this summer at all.

17:24But it is a conversation point on the poll. Seventy one percent say no. If I had to. Today, I would say no. But with all the nuance of what I've just said. Some people would say no because they can't stand Rashford. Some people would say yes because they've got pictures of Rashford on the wall. neither of those things matter to me. I look at this and I think United are as guilty as Rashford in this conversation. And I don't think it's anything to do with the fans. I think this issue is for them to solve between each other. And also, you know what? If you were asked, do you want Jared Bowen or Rashford?

18:04You're going to say Rashford. If you were asked, do you want Somerville or Rashford? Might be a bit of a split. If you were asked, do you want Diamonde or Rashford? You'd say Diamonde. That's the club. The club generates this, not ours. If I'm asked if I want Jared Bowen or Marcus Rashford, Marcus Rashford. If I want Somerville or Rashford, probably need a few minutes to think that one through. If it's Diamonde or Rashford, I want Diamonde. Well, who controls that conversation? Not me, not you, not Rashford, the club. The club are responsible for this and the ambitions they have. Do they want to bring back a player that's going to be 29 on 300 grand a week with two years left on his contract in a summer where they're meant to be backing an inexperienced coach?

18:46Or do they want to go and get one of the best up-and-coming wingers in the game? That's not for me or you or Rashford to decide. That's the club. And we're always victim to that propaganda. The reality is Manchester United Football Club should be going out there and buying the likes of Noosa or Diamonde. We shouldn't be considering Somerville, Bowen or Rashford back for a couple of years. But because of how we're run It's a very legitimate conversation And we can only react to that That's the way it is But no, 70 % of you are saying no to that at the moment How do I move this down here?

19:30I can't do it I can't do it Patrick Lynch says Rashford has shown when he doesn't have scrutiny on him He performs It's why he wants Barcelona He comes back to United and it will put nothing but headlines and questions, good or bad. Do we be United want him or him want that? Yeah, we can't control that either. You know, whatever we think, there will be people in this chat who from day one are like, don't bring him back. There will be the media scrutinising absolutely everything. If he gets subbed after 70 minutes, it'll get scrutinised. If he's on the bench, it'll get scrutinised. We can't control that.

20:05And ultimately as well, as I've said to you before, I've got mates, you know, they're married. I'm not going to tell it. I'm not going to say Scott's name. But the point is they. No, it's not that. But I've got I've got friends, Darren. I'm joking now. But look, it is it is like, you know, you pop on Facebook or Instagram. You've got a friend request from an old fling. Don't go back. The fire went out for a reason. Don't go back. Is it the same with football? Does it work out when you go back? Even Ronaldo, the biggest player we've ever brought back in my... Well, I was a little bit young for Mark Hughes and that did sort of work out.

20:46But bringing Ronaldo back ended in tears. Some people say bringing Ronaldo back ruined the momentum of what Solskjaer was building. I would say I don't know what he was building in the first place, but I don't think going back tends to work out. I mean, and that's important for the club, for Rashford, for the fans as well. What does bringing him back look like success-wise? And is that achievable? Because people who are poor at business look at the short term and not the long term. What would success be? Look, get in the comments, whether you're watching live or not, make sure you leave a comment about the Rashford return, because I think it's going to be very interesting.

21:27But do think about outcomes. People do things and think about the short term. Think about the long term. So if we bring him back and it's going to work, what does that look like? So for me, Rashford coming back and it being their success would be, you know, 15 to 20 Premier League goals, five to 10 assists, United in the top three for the next two years. And then he gets a new contract and he finishes his career at Man United. How likely is that? Failure would be coming back, sporadic form, pile on, doesn't sign a new contract, United drop off. So, you know, you've got to consider what success looks like and it can't be about financials as well.

22:22So look, it's going to be very interesting to see how it plans out. But I am of the opinion that it is going to be something that will become more and more prominent the longer it goes on. And that, get your words out, an advantage to all this is that if he wasn't playing and he wasn't doing well, then where would he be with regards to, where would we be in relation to, let me just vote on this myself. Oh God, I voted yes.

23:08Where would we be If he wasn't playing In a sense that

23:17Him scoring last night and doing well Might prick up the ears of a Bayern Munich Maybe a Barcelona I mean there's some people out there That genuinely do think he'll still end up playing for Barcelona owner. So, you know, that sort of could open up that conversation again. Look, we'll have to wait and see. It's very interesting. Sorry, I've had a couple of super chats here I just need to check up on. Let me come across. That works very well. Done that from Daniel. Hi, Mark. How much influence Do you think George Mendes has over who signs Fernandez? Much love from Seattle. Also, I'd take Hall over a third midfielder.

24:02Ooh. Ooh, that's a tough one. Chad, lots of people saying rest in peace, Chad. Not Chad. Sorry, why don't I read the chat first? Lots of people sending nice messages to Chad. Hi, Mark. Unfortunately, my older sister suddenly passed away recently and life has come to a complete halt. you the streams and this community have always been there for me love cheers from washington usa thank you chad well it's it's great to see so many people in the chat um putting in nice messages to something i wasn't actually aware about so thank you very much for that and uh look horrible news life's what happened life's what's happening isn't it you know this that's the great thing about this community and this you know what we do on a daily basis it is a community and we're all here together so you know sorry to hear that and thoughts with you and your family Chad um and look whatever's going on I think that this community does provide a consistency and stability that is there uh no matter what's going on so um obviously a very difficult time for you but um we're here for you as always thank you very much for that um I've just completely messed this up and I don't know why I've done that.

25:22Let me try going back and forward.

25:27Okay, let me get the chat. No, I think I've got it. It's just that I clicked on something. Oh, I've got it now, yeah. I take him on a wage cut and squad roll. Thank you very much. Emily Derry says, it's hard to move on from a toxic situation where trust was broken. It's rarely the same as before. Rashford knows this his wage is expensive enough to question if a return is financially viable yeah well Barcelona will have covered that off won't they for a considerable period of time Faz says can you really see this 50-50 could Rashford uh sign a new contract on say 150k for three years we need a backup striker and a left winger he can do both it makes sense to me hope you're well so Faz thinks we could bring Rashford back and he'll take a pay cut of 50 60 percent I I don't think that will happen, to be honest with you.

26:16I think Marcus Rashford probably backs himself to keep scoring goals at the highest level. So I don't think that will necessarily happen, but you never know. There was a comment there about George Mendes and Mateus Fernandes. Now, look, I think I sort of wanted to avoid the Mateus Fernandes story today because we've got Ben Jacobs on the show at two o 'clock and I really do want to get a grasp from Ben I mean I've got I'm just trying to get my messages up here as to because best doing the show BNB but I want to get a grasp of where we are um leave your comments and we'll actually come back a little bit later and have a look at them I want to know what's genuinely I've got it up now I genuinely want to know what's going on with Lewis Hall you know is there anything going on with Lewis Hall are Man United genuinely moving on a deal for Lewis Hall.

27:15I want to know that. I want to know, are we completely not going to go above£80 million, so therefore we're not going to go for Tonali, Anderson and Diamande? Because as I said, if I'm the CEO, I'm waking up this morning and saying, there's a fucking big difference between Diamande and Somerville. There's a fucking big difference between Mateus Fernandes and Anderson. Mateus Fernandes should be signing for Man United as our second midfielder, but our marquee signing should be Anderson, Tonali or Ciumini. So I would be making these offers, but I want to know, are we going to make these offers? Are we genuinely looking at someone like Somerville and why?

27:55Why are we so far down the list so quickly? What's going on with the striker situation? Are we looking to move Xerxe on? It seems to be, Sadly And I really hoped that we would have figured this out by now But it seems to be sadly to me That We still can only work On one deal at a time And That was never going to work this summer Like We shouldn't Why didn't somebody Speak to Joshua Zerkesy At the end of the season and say Go and enjoy your holiday But make sure your agent doesn't You know you pop off on holiday and have a great time. Make sure your agent's busy because we don't want you back. Do Man United operate like that or is it just a holiday club?

28:45Because I would be like, we're not having that conversation in pre-season. Oh, I tell you what, Joshua, have a good holiday, come back for pre-season. We'll have a great time. We're going around Europe and if you do well, we'll give you another chance. I'd be like, mate, you've had two years. You're not part of my plans. Get your agent working. it'd be ideal if you're not back for pre-season we haven't even had that conversation have we because nothing's happening um it's that inability to work on more than one deal at once and you know what going back to Rashford for a moment whatever happens there that's going to take time we're either going to have to find a buyer or have to sit in a room with him and his agents and find a way back so that's going to take time isn't it we're stacking up the jobs for July and August when we still got to buy two more midfielders, a left-back or a left-winger, a backup striker, a backup goalkeeper.

29:40There's still a lot of work to do. But going back to that question about Mateus Fernandes, I can only see Anderson in red, says Tahil Ineos. And Austin says we need quality signings over quantity, says Austin. Well, I think you can do both. But going back to the Mateus Fernandes question, as I said, I sort of want to avoid it today. I mean, we can ask Ben Jacobs what's the latest, and I think that will be quite insightful. I would hazard a guess the latest is Man United are relaxed and Real Madrid are interested. And at some point, something will change on that. Why are we relaxed? Because we don't want to bid what West Ham want.

30:23Why are West Ham not lowering the price? Because they're waiting to see if Real Madrid come in. And I sort of look at that scenario and go, well, should we be relaxed? Because we're beholden to somebody else. It feels to me at the moment like there's a lot of confidence that we'll get Mateus Fernandes, but it's not moving. And why is it not moving? Because West Ham won't lower the price. And why are they not lowering the price? Because they're hoping a bidding war will start. And what will prompt a bidding war is Real Madrid deciding what they want to do with the midfield. So realistically, West Ham and Lang United are waiting on Real Madrid.

30:58well why are we relaxed so i i i you know united have clearly playing the long game hoping the price comes down and west ham have clearly playing the long game game going well we can bring the price down but not until we know there's not going to be a bidding war so that that's not necessarily the most comfortable position to be in um at all uh hello mark brady in malaysia waiting on something thank you Daniel hope you're doing well um so yeah look it's not that insightful but that's why I didn't really want to talk about Mateus Fernandes because I genuinely think Man United's relaxation is hoping that West Ham bring the price down which is dependent on Real Madrid I mean what do we do if Real Madrid say we don't want Enzo Fernandes at 120 million let's go and get Mateus Fernandes at 70 million plus add-ons what do we do then Do we bid 70 million or maybe bid 70 million now?

31:56You know, that's that's sort of my my thought process is pitch a bid in at a competitive price. Before Real Madrid decide to come in, if nobody else comes in, we might get him a little bit cheaper and save five million pounds. But as I've said to you before. We ain't going to get Mateus Fernandes for less than 60. For an extra five or ten, you could get the deal done now. But you know, every transfer we do, every pound counts. And sometimes getting what you want is worth overpaying a bit. You know, FA Cup nights with Rashford and Mason Mounts as Jamie. Oh, God. well you know what and that's that's not a bad point is it you know you can afford to take a risk on a couple of players but when you look at next season Mason Mount's a risk Luke Shaw's a risk Deleuze a risk Maguire's a risk Deleuze a risk some people think Martinez is a risk Xerxes a risk you know how many more players do you take a risk on before half your squad's a risk and then half his squad's a risk that's not really the foundations to build upon so I would like to remove as many risks as possible um I don't mind taking three or four risks but I don't want to take eight or nine uh my concern is outgoings why haven't we heard anything about Agate or Xerxes says Harry do you think they're still part of the club's plans

33:32I think with Agate

33:38it's difficult isn't it I don't think there's going to be a very big list for Agate to come to Manchester United and sorry I don't think there'll be a lot of interest for people to come for Agate it's clearly going to be a loan deal and the World Cup is basically putting him in the window. What I'm saying is, I think Man United with Agate, I hope in the World Cup, generates some interest. With Xerxes, there is no World Cup to generate interest. So I think with Agate, it was always going to be a little bit longer in a loan deal. But we don't actually... Arsenal will probably sell Martinelli, Trazard and make 50 to 100 million quid.

34:25Chelsea will probably sell Enzo Fernandes, Cucurella and make 200 million quid. Who can we actually sell? And that is part of being a successful club, is the ability to make 50 to 150 million pounds each summer in sales. Who are we going to sell? Who is actually sellable for Man United? I mean, that's not Carrick's fault. but that squad doesn't really have sellable assets. We've got players that are valuable, but Kunya's not going to get sold. Embermo's not going to get sold. Bruno's not going to get sold, hopefully. Sesko's not going to get sold. Dorgoo's not going to get sold. So the players that we have value in, we wouldn't sell.

35:10So it is difficult to generate funds. Savage says we're a big club. We're not a selling club. No, but that's not what I'm saying, Savage. What I'm saying is, is that if you're a successful football club every summer, you should be making some money from sales. But those players aren't part of your plans anymore. The problem we've got is that, you know, it would be great to sell Mason Mount, but he's unsellable. The players that we would like to move on don't really have a lot of value, unfortunately.

35:46Woohoo, Mark. Woohoo, Mark. Mark, says Daniel. Mark. OK, OK. Great stuff. Does everyone forget the crap that was coming out of the dressing room when Rashford was there? The reports of disharmony, moaning and groaning players get rid of him, says Ian Irvine. What makes you think that Chumini would come to United in the first place, says Darren. Because I know he'd come to Man United. well it's not publicly known but Chumini would come to Man United if Real Madrid don't want him I know that we don't have to believe it but I know that I know that he would be happy to join Manchester United if Real Madrid decide they want to sell him that decision has not been made yet Man United view him as a dream signing and look I think all signings come with an element of risk But what people need to consider with Man United is that we are not a top team at the moment.

36:47And we haven't been a top team for quite a while. And I wouldn't say beggars can't be choosers, but every signing you make, you've got to say, do they improve this team? Well, yes, I would say Edison in his way improves the team because it's a better player than what we've got, bar Manu in the midfield. So, you know, it's a good signing. But someone like Cimini brings in experience, Champions League experience, you know, the pressure of playing for a massive club. I mean, look, he knows how to deal with media pressure. He knocked Balberdi out, didn't he? So I think Cimini brings a lot of experience and he walks into the club with something a lot of people don't have.

37:34Now, you might analyse his game and say, I don't really like his progression of the ball. I don't really like his attacking instincts. I don't think anybody could argue with his defensive capabilities. But does he improve Man United in an area that we don't have? Like, I agree If you analyse Cimini's game If you're losing 1-0 And he's the spare man Is he going to be the guy that can create things? Probably not But who else do we have in our midfield That can do what he does As well? Nobody We have nobody that can do that Who else in the market can do what he does as well? That's gettable There's not really a six defensive midfielder out there that can do what we need and that he can do.

38:25So I'd see him as a very specialist position that can do a job and allow the Maynews and the Brunos and maybe the Mateus Fernandeses to go and express themselves. So I think it would be a very intelligent signing. I understand the attacking limitations, but maybe we don't need to think about it that much. that much. I think like certain skills for certain positions, you know. Chumini is the French national team vice captain. He's literally the best option if we can't get Anderson and Tenali, says Mark. Exactly. I mean, I think it's great that people always have a counter argument to every debate.

39:07That's superb. But I also think that he would be such a smart upgrade. He would be what I would consider a marquee signing. There are limitations, of course, But the skill set he has, I mean, I don't know what Michael Carrick's going to do next season. I mean, I want expansive, progressive players, but we were averaging less than 50 % possession last season, which means more than half the game we haven't got the ball. You can't express yourself when you haven't got the ball. Maybe a player that can win the ball back and gives defensive stability allows us to go from 50 % possession to 55 % possession.

39:46Maybe the most obvious signing to be more progressive Is to bring a player in that is more aggressive You know Why are we down to 50 % possession under Michael Carrick?

40:04Maybe bringing a defensive midfielder would help that Because I certainly think Bruno Fernandes, Meynou, Cunha These players can be possession-based players But Sorry I've had a message here What I'm saying is in short Is I'd be very very happy To bring him into the club

40:29Menuh would be able to go forward With Chumini as well Says Gabriel I also think that In the absence of Casemiro And I You know this probably Doesn't get mentioned enough Casemiro At Carrington In the dressing room Feedback magnificent. Aura, players in awe of him because of what he's achieved. Huge influence on younger players and development just by being Casemiro. Next season, Bruno Fernandes, similar sort of thing, but he's not a defensive midfielder, is he? If you're Heaven and you're Yoro, Martinez, Maguire, De Ligt, if you're an attacking midfielder, Bruno Fernandes. If you're a midfielder,

41:17Who am I looking up to here? Someone like Cermini would bring that in, wouldn't he? So, you know, I think that's a huge thing to consider. And, you know, we want people like Maynou and we want people like potentially Mateus Fernandes to come in, of course, but also they're going to need development. And what better development than somebody that's been there Seeing it all for France, for Real Madrid So look, I think it would be a smart signing Financially, you've got to be willing to pay over 200 grand a week I don't think the transfer fee would be that high I think the transfer fee would probably be around 60, 70 But the wages would be big Long answer, but I definitely think he would be very interested in coming to Manchester United because what's the alternative if you if Real Madrid say we're looking to cash in Man United are interested where else are you going to spin at 26 PSG are not going to go for Chumini Barcelona are not going to go for Chumini Bayern Munich are not going to go for him so it's Premier League do Arsenal need him no do Liverpool need him maybe but I'd say we're a better option Man City won't go for him Chelsea would be interested but they're not in the Champions League.

42:40Spurs would be interested, but they're not in the Champions League. So I think he'd be very happy to come to us. We should just go all out for Anderson. He's worth the money for now. How he transformed us, I'd be even content to let the youth be back up for a season, says Sam. Mate, as I said, there is definitely like, if I was Sir Jim Radcliffe this morning, I'd be saying Ellie Anderson. I'd be saying Diamande, Tonali. these are the players that are going to move the needle I don't think that's going to happen but 100 % why isn't it happening especially when you look at what City are willing to do what Spurs are willing to do what Arsenal are willing to do apparently they're going for Alex Scott absolutely I think that we should be bidding for those players but I suspect my biggest complaint is that we just don't want to pay over£80 million for a player and we don't want to pay over£200 grand a week for a player that's unambitious that's going to be a problem I don't subscribe to the opinion that it's panic stations.

43:43There's plenty of the window left, but I do subscribe to the opinion that, all right, there's two months left of the window, but what's left on the shelf? If all those players are going to sign for rivals. But yeah, like I said, big debate point this morning. Would you bring Rashford back? Get in the comments as well, as well as about everything else as well. Don't forget, 2pm, we've got around 2pm. A lot of these transfer stuff we're talking about this morning is opinionated. Great stuff. But we're going to get official proper updates from Ben Jacobs about all of this. So make sure you're tuning in at two o 'clock.

44:16And then tonight's games in the World Cup, I think, are five o 'clock and an eight o 'clock kickoff. So we'll probably try and do something between seven and eight tonight again. OK, great show this morning. Some really good opinions coming in as always. nice to be in the studio as well take care have a great day and i'll speak on the next one

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