440: Shock FERNANDES Transfer Bid! Man Utd 26/27 Fixtures Released!

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1:10We've also got a shock Mateus Fernandes transfer bid from Tottenham. Also, a new shock contract may be given out to a fan favourite, and that's sarcasm. Luke Shaw might be getting a new deal. And also a shock exit, a player that people like, potentially being sold. No place for him at Manchester United as well. Lots to get into this morning. Slightly early with the start to the stream. We're live a few minutes early simply because it's meant to be a 10 a.m. release of these fixtures, but certain people online have leaked it outside of the embargo. So shout out to all those people. They know who they are.

1:52And I'm sure they'll be leaking the team news early next season as well, messing up our season. So well done to you. So look, effectively, we're winning the league if these fixtures are correct. And we're going to find out in the next four minutes whether they are or not. I do want to get into the Mateus Fernandes transfer bid from Spurs as well. I would say that straight away. So look, David Ornstein put it out there last night that Fernandes is subject to strong interest from Tottenham now. Tottenham want Tonali and Mateus Fernandes. you know what when I heard this last night I was doing the Canada watch along on That's Football and I was basically laughing for 10 minutes Mateus Fernandes to Tottenham and Tottenham being interested has me about as concerned as a butterfly you know starting a fight with a Rottweiler it's hilarious I am not worried about this there is an element of it that could change the deal in relation to the price.

2:55But actually losing this deal to Tottenham, I am not, but I actually find it more funny than fearful. Tottenham trying to take Mateus Fernandes off hers would be like Brad Pitt standing with a woman at the bar, chatting to her, and then Bilbo Baggins comes in and tries to push him away. What's he going to say? Oh, do you want to feel in my pocket and play with my ring? You know, Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Prats. I mean, I'm just not worried. You know, if I'm Brad Pitt, I'm laughing. And if I'm Man United, I'm laughing. I'm not bothered by this at all. Even Man United will not mess this up.

3:34So Tottenham are just going to be this year's Newcastle. Oh, we want Tonani. He's gone somewhere else. Oh, we want Fernandes. He's gone somewhere else. They've got no chance. They've absolutely got no chance. You know, even if we've got a Pratt at the wheel, we're still a Ferrari. Spurs are a mini metro you know they ain't going to get this deal done they've got no European football and what's Mateus Fernandes going to do what's he going to do is he going to go I'm sorry Michael Carrick I know you've got Champions League football Bruno Fernandes you're one of the biggest clubs in the world but I actually really have you know some people have a foot fetish and some people have I've got a relegation fetish nothing turns me on more than getting relegated so I've got Southampton relegated West Ham relegated Spurs it's my dream I'm going for the treble.

4:21I want three relegations in a row. I want that on my CV. I want to, you know, that's my thing. You know, that's my thing. Some players want personal accolades. Some players want wages. Some players, you know, want to win titles. I just want to get relegated. And, you know, it's like this for me. The opportunity to play in the Champions League at Old Trafford or to get relegated with Spurs. It's, you know, it's too hard to figure it out. You know, it's too hard. So I'm not worried about that. I'm not worried about it at all. Let's talk about these Premier League fixtures very, very quickly because they are that they're officially going to drop at 10 a.m.

4:57That's why we're a little bit early, but they have actually dropped already. I'll give you a couple of minutes on this. I do like the release of the fixtures for Manchester United. I do like it, but I like it for about a minute or two and then it's like, I know. OK, so Man United's first few fixtures are Hull City away, Ipswich Town at home. I know, I know, I know. Everton away, Man City at home, Fulham away and Tottenham at home. So our first six games are probably the easiest I've known in years. We should be in a title race after game six. I'm not saying we're going to win the league altogether, but, well, I am.

5:46No, no, no, I'm not. But we should, I mean, Hull City away, three points. Ipswich at home, three points. That's a six point start. And don't come at me with jinx or anything like that. We're talking about two teams that are hot favourites to get relegated against the team that came third. That will have Bruno Fernandes in it. Like that's six points. That is a six point start. And let's get real. if we haven't got six points after Ipswich, we've got a big problem. Then it's Everton away who, I mean, I just don't, I mean, it might be difficult, but I don't see it massively being difficult. So we could have nine points from the first three.

6:24And then your nine points from your first three, you're buzzing your tits off and you get Man City at home at Old Trafford who have a new manager and may have dropped some points themselves. So three-point momentum, then you play Man City. I think it's a dream start for us I really do Fulham away, okay But they haven't got Marco Silva They could be in a relegation battle by them And then Tottenham I mean, I could see us winning the first six Seriously I know that probably won't happen But I can definitely see us winning five Out of the first six And we could win six out of six So obviously the Man City game I'll give them some respect But that is a dream start And so Hull City away Ipswich at home Everton away City at home Fulham away Tottenham at home That is a dream start An absolute dream start And you know I think people will go Oh well you know Whatever But I think that It does make a massive amount of difference Your start to the season It does Because you know Chelsea have got Arsenal In their first three games Chelsea are away to Fulham home to Brighton away to Arsenal so that's not necessarily an easy game Arsenal Coventry at home Villa away Chelsea at home again not an easier start as us so look we've got a very good start to the season on paper and it's another reason to be positive now bringing it back to transfers I will tell you about other notable fixtures in a minute Bringing it back to transfers, there's two ways of looking at it.

8:10Get your players in quickly and six game winning start, you've got momentum. Teams that start the season well don't tend to finish it badly. So if we can get momentum, then the momentum should stay for the rest of the season. Great opportunity. One thing that did concern me a little bit is If you're Joel Glazer or Sir Jim Radcliffe And, you know, Jason Wilcox and Omar Barada are saying It's this price to get these players And you're going, well, let's play a little bit of hardball And they're saying the season starts in the middle of August So we need to move it at a certain pace You look at that fixture list and go, come on, Jason At the end of the day, Jason, relax Have a pint of champers It's Ipswich and Coventry, first two games of the season.

9:00Even you can put me up front and we still beat them. So, you know, we can take our time. You know, we can take our time in the window. We can take it to the last week because there's no rush. We don't need big players in for those games. And that might happen. I'm not, you know, that's speculative. But they might look at those fixtures and go, we're not even in a rush. We don't need to get everybody in for the start of the season because with the squad that we've got, we'll beat Ipswich and Coventry. So they might look at it and go, let's leave it. Let's not take a look at it. But look, we'll have to wait and see.

9:35We'll have to wait and see. But look, I'm happy with that start to the season.

9:42It's very important for Michael Carrick. I mean, obviously, I didn't want Carrick to get the job, but now he's got the job. It's very important that he does well. and I think what he has done he's been very good at getting results and it's a good start for us just to add in by the way they'd even released the kickoff times so the first game of the season will be Arsenal against Coventry at 8 o 'clock we will play at 12.30 on the Saturday so we don't even have to wait long as well I'm pretty happy with that they've only done the opening weekend fixtures but we play I was a little bit worried about Hull-Man United being a prime Monday night game It's not.

10:20It's a Saturday game. It's 12.30. And what I want to say to Chelsea Football Club and Ganacho is, you are us next season because guess what? You're not in Europe. You're going to get Monday'd a lot. And they've Monday'd you on the first game of the season. Fulham, Chelsea, Monday night football, eight o 'clock. Chelsea, get used to it. I am so glad we're back in Europe because I thought they might give us a Monday night football game for Hull. we're not they've not even done that so very happy with that start as well uh very very good right let's go back should we go back to the transfer stuff um oh no just very very quickly somebody said when are we playing who are we playing at christmas um let me tell you who we've got at christmas so as i said if you're tuning in a little bit later man united's first five games of the season are uh as i said we've got um covent hall at home ipswich sorry hull away Ipswich at home Everton away City at home Fulham away Tottenham at home First six games 18 points Christmas We are playing Boxing Day Against Forest We always seem to play Villa or Forest On Boxing Day Don't we So we've got Forest at home Boxing Day We've got Over Christmas We've got Arsenal on the 19th Forest on the 26th Sunderland on the 30th and then Brighton on the second.

11:49So that's a good run there. We play Liverpool in November on the 21st. Who else is big that we would play? Chelsea we play on the 31st of October. And Arsenal.

12:05Arsenal's in December. So they're quite... Look, to be honest, those fixtures, I don't know whether they're sponsored by Amazon, but it's a very good set of fixtures for us. And of course, we have got Champions League football, which you can almost poke in as well. I can't figure out when the Champions Leagues are, but you want to look at whether we're away the week, the game after that, because that can be difficult. Gem says November fixtures are tough. Thank you very much. Okay, right, I want to go back to the transfer stuff. And maybe the fixtures, like I say, maybe they can impact on what happens in the transfer window.

12:39Because, you know, we certainly have got an interesting few weeks ahead in the transfer window. Will United look at it and go, we don't need to rush. We've got two newly promoted teams in the first two games. And we are very lucky to have that, by the way. it's a bit unprecedented that our first two games of the season against the two shittiest teams in the in the league and they are the two shittiest teams in the league because coventry finished top so for united to get the first two games against the two shittiest teams it is very very good uh very happy with that um mark says the spurs match will be hard mark what because they might have mateos fernandez it's off it ain't happening that that's just not happening that's not happening at all.

13:21So look, let's get into the news. That's what we're here for. So David Ornstein that said last night that Tottenham are among the clubs keen on signing Mateus Fernandes from West Ham. This is separate to Tottenham's pursuit of Sandro Tonali. Interest driven by De Zerbe wants West Ham talent as well as Newcastle midfielder. I mean, there's a few things to unpick there. One, I'm not concerned about this at all. I'm really not. It's Tottenham. And I think some of our fans on this one are going a little bit over the top, panicking about something that really isn't that bad, right? Right. Newcastle wanted Sesco.

14:05We got Sesco. So legitimately, David Ornstein is saying that Tottenham have joined the race to sign Mateus Fernandes. OK. But there's a couple of things I would say about this. One, Mateus Fernandes is not going to want to join Tottenham over Man United. But Bruno Fernandes, status, Champions League football, you know, he's just not going to want to do it. So that's the big thing, isn't it? We don't need to be worried about that, really. Two, if the player doesn't want to go, then West Ham can't negotiate a deal. It's very difficult to negotiate a deal. Worst case scenario, Tottenham come in and say, there's£70 million for Mateus Fernandes.

14:49And Joey says Spurs will just pay. And Adam says, that's your opinion. Mate, Adam, don't deflect. Have a set of balls, Adam, right? Like, don't come in here saying that's your opinion, that he won't want to go to Tottenham over Man United. Have the courage of your conviction to say you think he'll go to Tottenham over Man United. Don't deflect like a coward going, that's your opinion, and then not confirm that you think he'll pick Spurs over Man United. Like, if you think he's going to choose Spurs over Man United, then put it in the chat and we'll talk, right? He ain't going to choose Spurs over Man United, mate.

15:24He ain't fucking stupid. He's not a moron, is he? He hasn't got a relegation fetish. He wants to play in Europe at one of the biggest clubs in the world. He ain't going to choose Spurs over Man United. That's not going to happen. He's not a moron, right? And I've got nothing against Spurs, but it's like choosing fucking Everton over Arsenal. There's no point. Like, we're Manchester United. We're in the Champions League. We're a bigger club. He ain't going to choose Spurs over Man United, right? But there are two things that do bother me about this. One, if Spurs slap 75 million on the table, that's above what we want to pay.

16:04And I would acknowledge that. What happens then? What happens if Spurs offer more than we're offering? It does get, it does muddy the waters. Secondly, and probably more important for me than it is for you, how the hell are Man United putting it out there that they won't bid big on players that we need, but Tottenham, who don't have European football, are bidding big on Tonali and Fernandes. How are Tottenham, with no Champions League football, spending money better than we are, and we won't do it? And I think that's the big takeaway I would drop into this show this morning, is we will win this race.

16:49I am sure we will. Well, we'll beat Tottenham. We might not beat Real Madrid if they come in. But how and why and what does that say about the ambition of this football club when Tottenham, with no Champions League football and two years in a row finishing fourth from bottom, how are they bidding big on Tonali and Mateus Fernandes? And we won't do either. We won't bid on Tonali and we won't bid what Spurs want to pay for Mateus Fernandes. that has got nothing to do with being a bigger club, being in the Champions League or being Man United. That's got to do with ambition. And on that one, I'll acknowledge Spurs are better than us because Spurs want Tonali and Mateus Fernandes and they're not in Europe.

17:37And Man United don't. And that to me is criminal. And that's a fact. we won't bid on Tenali because it's too expensive we're focusing on a cheaper deal for Mateus Fernandes but Tottenham want to bid for both and they are not in Europe that makes us look really bad and I think what people need to realise is and I was thinking this last night what people need to realise is is Jason Wilcox Omar Barada even Sir Jim Radcliffe get a lot of blame and this doesn't get mentioned enough if I'm Jason Wilcox and I want to get Mateus Fernandes and I go into the boardroom and I say, we've got to offer£75 million today or this deal is going to get very difficult.

18:22That has to go to Sir Jim Radcliffe and he has to get written sign-off by Joel Glazer. And I think people have forgotten that and think it's Sir Jim Radcliffe's decision to make or it's Jason Wilcox's decision to make or it's Omar Barada's decision to make. People forget this club is still majority owned by the Glazers and they have final say on money. So Jim Radcliffe may well have control of the football side, but he doesn't have control of the bank. And that seems to have disappeared for some reason. It's one of the weirdest things in our fan base that seems to have completely and utterly disappeared.

19:07It's always Wilcox, Barada and a little bit of Sir Jim. When it comes to transfers, the guy who writes the check is the Glazers. We cannot, you know, if Omar Barada says Jim, Sir Jim. What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here. And you know what's more American than America's 250th birthday? Supporting American owned companies like SpinQuest, America's number one social casino with over a thousand games like live dealer blackjack and craps. They're offering new users a$30 coin package for just$10. Go to spinquest.com and sign up today. SpinQuest is a free to play social casino. Void where prohibited.

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20:25I've done us a deal with Newcastle. It's£80 million plus 30 in add-ons, but the add-ons don't need to be played unless we win the Champions League. but it's only active for the next hour. And Jim Radcliffe says, that's great, Omar. Let's do it. And then he goes, oh, actually, I've just realised I can't sign that off. I don't have the power. I'm not the signatory. I agree with you. I need to get Joel Glazer to confirm. So Jim gets on the phone to Joel Glazer. Two hours later, he's still not decided. That deal's gone. And that's how it works at Man United. And you won't get any journalists telling you that.

21:04And some of our fans don't seem to want to discuss that. But we can't, Wilcox Barada cannot sign off deals without Joel Glazer and the Glazers saying yes. So they run the football side with Sir Jim, but they don't write the checks. And that can be a problem. So look I applaud Tottenham For their ambition In the fact that they're going for players That we should be going for And I acknowledge that And it annoys me that we've got Less ambition than Tottenham And nobody can argue with that Tottenham have shown more ambition In this transfer window than Man United And they're not even in Europe They would like to sign Tonali and Mateus Fernandes I applaud their ambition But it's a little bit like an ugly bloke Going to the bar and trying to pull a 10 out of 10 It's probably not going to happen And when I say ugly, I don't mean looks I mean like they've got an ugly personality Their clothes are ugly You know, they stink of piss, whatever You know, you're not going to get me on that one But I do applaud the ambition for trying However, they won't get it done where I do agree with the chat and let me know your thoughts is what happened the only thing we need to concern about ourselves about this offer from Spurs for Mateus Fernandes is if they do put an offer in which they might not do if the player says I'm not interested David Ornstein doesn't say Spurs are going to offer a bid in Spurs go to Mateus Fernandes he says I'm not interested Spurs don't even put a bid in and I think that's what will happen where it would could become a problem is if for whatever reason spurs decide they are going to put a bid in and then west ham are like but remember spurs relegated west ham i can't imagine spurs and west ham have a great relationship so i don't know why spurs would put a bid in if the player prefers man united so i don't think this will happen but worst case scenario spurs put a bid in, what does that do?

23:15So if Spurs put a bid in for like, let's say 75 million or 70 million, then that would cause West Ham to say to Man United, you may think you've got the player, but we've got a bid of 75 and we will accept it. Man United could say, well, we know the player won't go to there. So you can have a bid of£100 million, he's not going to go there. So I don't see this causing a massive issue for Man United unless Spurs drop a bid that West Ham accepts and West Ham start to try and play a little bit of hardball. I still think the Real Madrid offer, if this comes in, is Derek, you're blocked. Thank you very much.

24:13So, yeah, I think it's interesting to see how it plays out, but I'm not massively concerned about it. Rassler says, too many hierarchies at United. Any normal club would have completed the deal by now. Should be one person in charge. The sooner Glynios leave, the better, says Rassler. I mean, look, I'm not here to get into the technicalities of how Man United run. But when the Glazers ran the club, there was a lot of people very frustrated at the club just because of how the Glazers would, you know, if Man United wanted to order more beef for the cantina Carrington, the Glazers would get involved in signing it off.

24:50So, you know, they are still very involved in writing the checks. Blake. Oh, sorry. We've got we've actually this is hilarious. We don't need to delete it, Ladios Let him back Undelete him Oh, Ladios You've been Like, mods I don't mind this sort of thing We do not need to block this We had a Spurs fan called Blake He said It's funny watching Mark cry and complain I mean, mate We've got a prat in the chat Like, Mark, Mark Blake I couldn't be more relaxed I've had hardly any sleep this week I'm surviving on five hours sleep a night doing World Cup and United Stand. It's been a hard week. This has woke me up.

25:36Red Bull where? I don't need coffee this morning. I don't need a caffeine hit from a can of Red Bull. I've got Spurs trying to bid for Mateus Fernandes. This is just the biggest stimulant in the world. We are not worried about you, mate. You'd be worried about what you're going to do all week. You'd be worried about how many Premier League games you're going to get Monday'd on. we're in the Champions League you're not we're a massive club you're not you know you've got your pound Landon Chalotti in charge who's giving it the big one trying to buy all these players you're not going to get Mateus Fernandes he's not going to sign for you you're not relevant I don't even dislike Spurs but you know what you should be more bothered about your North London rival being in Champions League finals and winning the league than sticking your nose in a beehive because you're going to get stung You're not going to get Mateus Fernandes.

26:27And I'll be absolutely stunned if you get Tenali as well. You're not going to get Adam Scott. You are going to end up with Tyler Adams. That's your level, right? You are not going to be in the top six next season. You are not going to get Mateus Fernandes. And you are not a threat. And that's straight face. the day we as a fan base get concerned about Tottenham we need to really get worried you got lucky beating us in the Europa League final but look at look at where you are now a year later you're fighting relegation we're third you're not winning this race I think it's embarrassing that you've tried to get in it and I think it's embarrassing that you put it out there public but look let's see how it plays out because to tell you what Blake I know a few Spurs fans and they were laughing about it last night.

27:18They were saying fair play, but we ain't got no chance. And it reminds me a lot of Newcastle. And if you want to be this summer's Newcastle, fill your booze. If you want to be the team that tries going for players that ain't going to come for you, fill your booze. But you ain't going to get Mateus Fernandes over United. It's not going to happen. And if you do, you can come back and banter us because we'll be ripping the absolute shit out of Wilcox and co. This won't happen. All our games are at 3pm Saturdays. Does that mean we can even use Sky throughout the whole season? Kenzo, I hope that's a joke.

27:53Kenzo says every game's at 3 o 'clock on Saturday. Yeah, they've not done the TV fixtures yet. Brian and Stuff says, easy to start the season will mean an excuse to not buy players because of the results we're getting. Xerxi, Agate, Rashi all staying guaranteed. I'm going to hope that doesn't happen. Patrick Lynch says, Spurs new board tried to keep the same transfer policy as Levy and almost went down twice. They've realised it's wrong. They're looking at centre midfielders, even after buying Gallagher. Our board just seem happy building a squad in stages. Well, I do agree with Patrick. What I will say about Spurs is it won't work because they won't get the players, but they are showing more ambition in their spend in their midfield than us.

28:31And that is something I would take away as a Man United fan this morning, is that Tottenham's ownership is showing more ambition in its midfield rebuild than us. And their midfield's already better than ours. So what does that say about Man United? Are we going to win the Premier League, says Shea? We've got a very good start. Boxing Day football is back and United are at home to Forest, says Dino. Thank you, Dino. Mark, are Spurs morons to go in for Fernandes knowing we're already agreed on personal terms, says Sanska? I don't get what the play is. It's a waste of time, but, you know. A good start is important since it's Patrick, with Champions League football and those extra games going to put an eventual strain on the squad, having points cushion will be vital.

29:11And also, just in relation to the start to the Premier League, obviously playing the likes of Ipswich and Coventry and Everton and Fulham in the first six games gives you a massive opportunity to get maximum points. Of course it does. But also, whatever comes out of next season, absolute minimum has to be Champions League football. So if you can get a good start and put yourself comfortably in the top four after the first few games, you would expect to stay there as well. Champions League football normally starts after game week four, says Nick. Yeah, well, if you look at the fixtures, there's normally an international break after three games.

29:53There isn't this time because there's only two international breaks this season, but they're both three week breaks instead of two. so we play 22nd of august 29th of august 5th of september 12th of september and then 19th of september so we play five games before the first international break and there's a champions league game in there as well so um yeah we should be i mean we could we could have five from five which would be great uh spurs in for tonali and fernandez uh says kieran city in for tonali and anderson liverpool 100 million euro bid for diamante united in for sandberg belabor and somerville is pathetic and i do actually love that super chat from kieran and it is actually totally spot on i want to come back to that it's great last chat i sent mark i said i was so worried about is actually doing what this board say tottenham doesn't bother me either but real madrid do says mikey uh mikey has been a member for 11 months thank you sir and owen says good morning all the best hopefully the usa game will be good today yeah look some cracking world cup games tonight uh usa australia at eight um we'll be live at seven uh on the united stand uh morocco scotland at 11 and then brazil haiti at 1 30 in the morning we're doing all of those um

31:13dan's just called me a champagne socialist okay i mean that is i've been called an an absolute knobhead and worse but that is got to one of the most wildest accusations I've ever heard of. I mean, I don't even like champagne, Dan, for a start. James says, do you think our reputation in the market has improved since Ineos? It must be so frustrating dealing with a club that moves so slowly. Liverpool can do deals overnight and show respect to clubs. We, we, I mean, I've not spoken to anybody probably since March in relation to United's perception in the market, but consistently over the years, we've been likened to, you know, you can hear Man United coming towards a transfer window because the big clown boots are slapping on the floor, oversized shoes, et cetera.

32:10We tend to piss people off in the market. We tend to walk into a deal, we're Man United, but it's all the gear and no idea. So we don't actually hold that many good relationships with clubs because we tend to piss out piss about and most of it comes from the glazers you know you can say what you like about barada and hargreaves and wilcox who fundamentally work on these deals but it's the if you imagine going into a shop today to buy a pair of trainers and you're at the checkout and they're a hundred pound pair of trainers and you say can you get your manager because I'm only going to pay 80 and the manager comes out and says it says it's 100 pound and you say yeah but you can negotiate everyone can negotiate on price but it's 100 pounds but I want to pay 80 all right we'll do a deal we will do a deal okay fine you can have them for 90.

33:06Hold on a minute and then they've got to ring up and ask the boss do you want to pay 90 no he still says 100 well we want actually no he's got that right he wants 80. The negotiation process for Manchester United is consistently frustrated by the fact that Wilcox and Barada need sign-off from the Glazers and it slows it down and it irritates people and the Glazers don't deal with West Ham they don't deal with Brentford they don't deal with Newcastle they sit in America pulling the calling the shots but not negotiating and it makes it a very long frustrating process and we end up pissing a lot of clubs off.

33:44So our reputation's not great and we end up being not that well liked either. Like you say, some clubs, Man City probably do have a good reputation. Liverpool probably do have a good reputation. We don't have a good reputation in the window. And it burns you because look at what we did to Newcastle with Dan Ashworth. Newcastle probably really don't like us. Do you think they're going to help us get Lewis Hall? so you end up burning bridges and you also end up in a situation where every deal takes ages so Emily Derry says the Spurs thing annoys me because they finished 17th and are showing more ambition than a third place United not that they may or may not get Fernandes I completely agree I don't think Spurs have got a cat in L's chance of getting Fernandes what annoys me is is that they're showing more ambition and some people in our fan base think You know, don't want to talk about that

34:43Cool says How are you not losing your mind? Overlap restraint What am I meant Mate, that's just such a childish comment Because I was losing my mind last night And what am I meant to be losing my mind about? So if I don't lose my shit about absolutely everything It's because I'm being restrained I mean I don't know I find that crazy but thanks for your super chat. Spurs need a team build as bad as us if not more says Damien it's not the Spurs stand. Too many hierarchy at United says Razzler any normal club would have completed the deal by now should be one person in charge the sooner Glinias leave the better.

35:26Thoughts on Garassi last two seasons very good and was last season's Champions League top scorer also for sale this summer would be perfect with Sesco. You know what Mouad I'm not going to deviate from what I wanted to talk about but you know know what, Gerasi, I know I said no a few years ago at 30 years of age and he's not 31 till March, dependent on the price, he would be a very decent secondary striker with experience to Sesko. But I've heard absolutely nothing about Man United doing it. But look, what I do want to say is whatever happens with Mateus Fernandes, what are we doing? Because I don't actually like our policy of the player wants to join us, let's spend weeks negotiating the price down.

36:16Because as I said, you burn your bridges with Brentford, you burn your bridges with West Ham. You know, West Ham will probably be sat there saying, we've got clubs that will pay us more than you, but you've locked the player into you. That pisses us off. There's three or four clubs that are going to pay more than you, but the player won't go to them because you've locked him down and made him want to go to you. You've cost us five, 10 million pounds by doing that. So yeah, we've got to do a deal with you, but you know what? We don't like you. And that's business. That's the way it works. But I think that my issue is, and I've said this a few times about Anderson, Diamande, Tonali, Lewis Hall.

37:04In football and in life, you sometimes have to pay a little bit extra to get the thing you really, really want. If you're getting married and there's one wedding ring in the shop that you really like and you go in and say, that's the ring I want. The Bilbo Baggins again. That's the ring I really, really want. And then the owner of the shop says, I'm sorry, I've made a mistake. That's actually been sold. I shouldn't have had it there. And you go, what did it sell for? And they say the retail price. I really want it. I'll give you that price. And they'll go, no, because I've sold it to the person there.

37:44I would go, can you ring them up and say, I'm adding another hundred quid on top and see if they want to match the offer? Like, I really want that. I will pay a little bit extra to get that because I really, really want that. You know, I don't have that mentality, but other clubs do. You know, look at Liverpool going for Diamande. The bid's gone in for 100 million euros. We won't even put that bid in. It's been rejected, but Liverpool will go back. Man City have had two bids rejected for Anderson at over£100 million. They will get that deal done because they want that player. We've got an owner and some fans that are going, well, we shouldn't pay that.

38:26We shouldn't pay that for Diamonde. We shouldn't pay that for Anderson. We shouldn't pay that. We've literally got fans knocking one out to us walking away from multiple targets.

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39:22Earn cash back. Weekend getaway? Earn miles. Dinner at the hottest restaurant in town? You get the idea. No matter the place or the plan, Amex rewards your inner explorer. Learn about card options at americanexpress.com. Terms apply. I'm like, I pay the money. If we're convinced that player is the player that's going to be a game changer for us for the next five years, what's an extra 20 million? What's an extra 5 million? What's an extra 10 million? So when you look at Mateus Fernandes and let's say Man United are happy to pay 65, it's already a little bit overpriced anyway. If West Ham are going to take 70 or 75, are we really going to sit there going, let's negotiate this out?

40:11But the reason Wilcox and Berada will be negotiating it out is because they've got the glazers going, but we're not paying over 65. So they have to negotiate every pound because their boss is telling them to do it. When actually, I'm sure there's a part of Wilcox going, I wish he'd just pay the extra five so we could get the deal done and move on to somebody else because it's my reputation on the line at the end of the day. So this is the problem that we have. We have an ownership that doesn't understand football and doesn't care enough. And that's the big thing. If I'm the owner of the club or you're the owner of the club and we want Mateus Fernandes and Wilcox says, we've offered 65, they're not going to take it.

40:50We can keep negotiating for weeks and weeks and weeks, or we can offer 70 and I think they'll take it. I'd say, let's do it. Because I understand football and I understand we've got other things to do. I understand that this is the target we need and that£5 million is a drop in the ocean. I'd say, Jason, offer him 70, get it wrapped up, move on to the next deal. We really want this player. But the Glazers don't understand football. They don't care about football. They just see an extra£5 million being spent, which is why we walked away from Peritage all those years ago when we wouldn't go above 40 to 45.

41:25It's frustrating. Thoughts on Grassi? I think that was a good one, Moad. Have a feeling the third midfielder would be Kamavinga. Rasler says, the club spend more time speaking internally than negotiating with clubs. Haven't won the league in 13 years and the board seems to live in the past. Rasler, as I said, I don't know. We've got so many journalists around Man United that are client journalists. They're just pushing Man United PR for access. That's what they do. When was the last interesting piece in The Athletic or The Mail or The Telegraph or anywhere else that actually criticised and scrutinised the way Man United work.

42:08Well, here's one for them because it's true. Man United struggle because of the many layers of bureaucracy at that football club. There are too many cooks around the pot and it slows us down and it messes us up. And it's hard to work in that environment when every deal you work on, there's multiple layers of people you've got to go through. Barada, you know, if you're Matt Hargreaves and Jason Wilcox at the Rockface working on this deal, even when you get close to a deal, you've still got to go through Barada, who's got to go through Sir Jim, who's got to go through the Glazers and then it's got to come back down again and then you've got to negotiate again and then it's got to go back up again and this is why it takes so long.

42:50Rajaf says, damn, can't believe Madrid completed the Cucurella deal in 48 hours. I don't understand why our owners won't look at the end and get a sense of urgency. But Rajaf, the reason Real Madrid will get a deal done in 48 hours is because Florentino Perez is the president of Real Madrid. He has the final say. He loves football. He loves Real Madrid. And he gets involved. The layers of bureaucracy at Real Madrid are probably one. Florentino Perez running the show because he cares about the show and he wants to be the best. We want Cucurella. Florentino Perez probably spoke to Cucurella He probably spoke to Chelsea and he went We want Cucurella I'm writing the check Let's get it done At Man United How many layers of bureaucracy have you got to go up To get a decision to come back down again?

43:44Thank you Have a feeling the third midfielder will be Camavingas Thank you very much Emily Derry says We've walked away from Diamonde, Tonali, Anderson so far and it's not even July and we walked away from Semenyu in January. Are we backing ourselves into a corner too early? I mean, look, this is a complete and utter opinion statement from Emily and it's one I share. I don't understand, but it's not for me to, it's not, you know, everybody is entitled to their opinion. That's the beauty of this community. I have no concern about Matias Fernandes going to Spurs and if he did go to Spurs, I would laugh my head off.

44:23I'd be like the guy's got a relegation fetish what is he doing? He's clearly in fact if Mateus Fernandes went to Spurs I would say we've dodged a bullet because if he's got a Spurs mentality we've dodged a bullet but it won't happen that doesn't worry me what worries me is yeah we weren't willing to pay for Semenyu we weren't willing to pay for Anderson we're not willing to pay for Tonali we're not willing to pay for Diamande we're not willing to pay for Lewis Hall that's five players of which two or three of them are absolutely players we should be signing but none of them are coming to Man United Diomondi's going to Liverpool Lewis Hall we don't know where he's heading yet Tonali's going to a Premier League rival Anderson's going to a Premier League rival Semenyu's already at a Premier League rival it's it's very frustrating because how do we get better when our rivals are getting better with players that we need.

45:26And I'm sorry, the reason Diamande and Anderson and Tonali and Lewis Hall and Semenyu are expensive is because they are good. You know, if Fettinia comes on the market, he's not going to come on the market for under£80 million, is he? So we can't get him. If Shao Neves comes on the market, we're not going to get him because he's going to be over 80 million pounds. They're good players and we price ourselves out of it. And it's so frustrating. And you know what? I was live last night when it came out from, was it Ben Jacobs or Ornstein or Romano that Liverpool have bid for Diamande? And it's so bloody frustrating

46:11because Spurs have more ambition than Man United. And I agree with Emily. And look, you don't have to agree, but you can't call it moaning, you can't call it negativity because it is a fact. We won't bid for players our rivals are bidding for and yet we want to win the league. That Jan Diamande is going to tear it up in the Premier League. I knew Semenyu would tear it up at Man City and he did. I know Diamande is going to tear it up at Liverpool if they get him. There's no point going, I hope he flops. He won't fucking flop. He will absolutely, it's a dead cert. Unless he gets injured, he is a dead cert.

46:52Anderson at Man City is a dead cert. Tonali, wherever he goes, is a dead cert. And also, gone are the days where you hope that your rival sign a player that's a flop. They're players we should be signing. So you're telling me, I'm meant to go, I think Tonali could be brilliant for Man United. I think Diamande would be brilliant for Man United. I think Elliot Anderson would be brilliant for Man United. Oh, they've signed for a rival. Oh, I reckon they might flop. I mean, you're asking fans to be hypocrites. I genuinely think Elliot Anderson would be an amazing Man United player. I genuinely think Yandiamonde would be an amazing Man United player.

47:29I genuinely think Tenali would be an amazing Man United player. And what you're asking your fans to do is go, even though I think they're brilliant, I've now got to change my mind and think they're going to flop. But I don't think they're going to flop because I think they should be signing for Man United. And I think we should be paying the price to get them because we're not a fucking bank. We're a football club. And I don't know what's gone wrong. I don't know why we're being treated like bloody accountants. This never used to happen. Being a Man United fan was very simple. We're going to go and get the best players available.

48:02And that's all we had to worry about. Now we're being told we're going to go and get the best players that we can for a price that's under a limit that we've set. Oh, talk about taking the joy out of football. We're not buying the best players anymore. We're buying the players that we can afford under a certain price. It's soul destroy that United has become that. Won't be surprised if the sale news starts, if this window fails. I think it's the only way the club have figured out how to shut the fans up, says Razzler. And Midry says, Morning, Mark. Wilcox has already made it hard for himself.

48:40Sorry, it was getting really hot. I was just looking outside. It is hot. Morning, Mark. Wilcox has already made it hard for Carrick by not getting the players he needs. We will struggle next season. Well, you know what?

48:54Austin says this is the main reason Amorim fell out with them. Yeah, I mean, Amorim got sacked for falling out with the board. He didn't get sacked for results. You're absolutely true. But the worrying thing is, it looks from the fixture release with the likes of Ipswich and Hull in our first two games, it looks like Carrick will get a very good start to the season. But it's a marathon, not a sprint. So what could happen is we could end up in a situation where we don't have a very good transfer window, but we do have a good start to the season. and then later in the season, it could become problematic in the sense that we might not, we might struggle later in the season.

49:46I mean, look at Chelsea. Chelsea up until Christmas were very good. Then they didn't end up in Europe. So, you know, it is a marathon, not a sprint. Can't believe Madrid completed. I've done that one from Rajaf. Thank you very much. So basically our last big signing will be Bruno Fernandes' Panos Look, I can't categorically say this But what it looks like to me Is that we have a parameter in place around wages And a parameter in place around transfers And what I mean by that is It looks like we won't pay over£80 million for a player and we won't pay over 200 grand a week on wages. That's what it looks like at the moment.

50:35But look, you know, and it's hard not to think that when you've got someone like Ben Jacobs saying there's next to no chance that we're going to bid for Diamande, Anderson or Tonali. And the news this morning is, of course, that Man City are very close to getting the Anderson deal done and Liverpool are very close to getting the Diamande deal done. But don't worry, we're looking at Sander Berg. Is it Diamande? Is it Anderson? Is it Tonali? No, it's Sanderberg.

51:14It's Sanderberg. I would not be able to keep... If I was on the board at Man United talking about transfers. And I'm listening to that. It's not Diamande. It's too expensive. It's not Tonali. It's too expensive. It's not Anderson. It's too expensive. It's Sanderberg. You know what? I'd throw my glass up against the wall. I wouldn't hit anybody with it. And I'd storm out. And Wilcox would be going, what's his problem? What's his problem? I'd be like, I'll tell you what my problem is. I thought I'd walked into a Man United boardroom. At what point does it say Everton on the door? You fucking idiot.

51:58I don't want to go back to yesterday. Last night's show was hard. I'll tell you what, do not watch last night's show. It was depressing. I don't want to go back there. I don't even want to take my head back there. I don't want to go back.

52:16yesterday's updates basically were just very very depressing and I almost wanted to wake up this morning and it'd be a dream we're not in for Diamande we're not in for Tonali we're not in for Anderson but we are looking at Sander Berg and maybe Belaber again and I'm like oh god the club are happy for that to be out there in the middle of June the middle of June is where you lie You know, the middle of June is where you go, even though it's not going to happen, tell them Anderson's a priority because we've got shirts to sell. Even though it's not going to happen, say we're still in the Tonali race because we've got shirts to sell.

52:53It's the middle of June and they're actually putting it out there. Yeah, we're happy that you've Sanderberg. Tell them Sanderberg's on the list and we're still looking at Belaba and Jimmy Suburb at Somerville.

53:07Two weeks ago We got linked to Romero Within nine hours The club had briefed Multiple journalists That we weren't in for Romero 24 hours ago It was put out there That we're in for Sandeberg, Somerville And the Labour And the club have said nothing They're happy for us To be linked to this Type of player And they're happy for us To be told We're not bidding for Diamande, Anderson and Tonali. The message coming out of the club at the moment is very worrying. There's plenty of time left. We can still get Fernandes. We can still get Chumini. And if we get that, we've achieved a reasonably good midfield, in my opinion.

53:46And we have held talks with Chumini. We have. Not recently, necessarily, but talks have been held about the viability of moving to Man United, and he would like to do it. But look, there's a long way to go to getting that deal done, certainly. Who's getting the new contract? I mean, I don't even want to talk about this, but I think it was Luckhurst in The Sun was talking about Luke Shaw, saying that if he wants a new contract at Man United, he'd have to take a pay cut because he's on nearly 200 grand a week. I mean, if Man United are considering giving Luke Shaw a new contract, and they probably will, what's going on?

54:26I think Luke Shaw's got one year left on his deal. And there's obviously thoughts about what's going to happen next.

54:41You can't give him a new contract. You can't. I don't care whether he takes a pay cut or not. You don't give him a new contract. Simple as that. Also, the player that United might be selling, I think it's Laurie Willing in The Athletic talking about Vitek. I actually said this at the start of the week. He won't be coming back as the backup goalkeeper at Man United. United will look to loan or sell him this summer. So Vitek looks like, I would say, could be a bit of money coming in for United. I know that might upset a few of you, but I don't think Vitek is going to be having a future at United.

55:15Le Mans is the number one, and he's not going to want to be sat there as a number two. we may be loaning for another year but ultimately are you not just kicking the ball down the road anyway um he's not going to dislodge Le Mans and he's not going to want to be a number two so I think he will um end up moving on Carrick should remember David Moore's Moy's poor transfers ended his United career early he should demand better says Tailsey yeah but we don't know I mean Michael Carrick Michael Carrick is an inexperienced coach he's had some very good results he's an inexperienced coach who got sacked by Middlesbrough.

55:49He might be sat there saying, I quite like Sanderberg. I quite like some of it. We don't know what Michael Carrick's doing. Michael Carrick might be sat there saying, I don't mind. Do what you want. I'm just happy to have the job. We don't know. We can't be in Michael Carrick's shoes because we've not seen what Michael Carrick's like yet in relation to all this stuff. Why do you act like Somerville is horrific, fix as five star. Mate, if you don't want to listen to the shows, then it's not my problem to keep repeating it because some people watch the shows and you're basically just taking time and wasting time.

56:24I have never said, I think Somerville is horrific. I have said he is a plan D at best winger. That's not good enough. We are going for him because he is cheap. People like Yandiamonde and Noosa and Morgan Rodgers are on the market and we're going for Somerville because he's cheap. We're literally in talks with two relegated players. One relegated player might be OK, but why are we talking to West Ham about multiple players like West Ham were decent? It's not good enough for me, mate. It's not good enough to keep signing Plan D, E and F players. you'd get sacked Mark for that like Amarin this is why Michael Carrick's the manager Razzler they can't put somebody in there that's going to ask questions title challengers need six signings, three centre midfielders one left back, one striker, one goalkeeper the pace is alarming, why are you so calm says Kulan Kulan, I'm going to get rid of you in a minute because you're boring the shit out of me so you're probably boring the chat oh is it because of the overlap mate i've just spent a whole show talking about i'm not happy with it you're you're you know what you're a rage baiter i'm not reading your next chat we can't use the world cup as an excuse to sign players or get targets because our rivals are sealing deals for players that are currently there great great comment jid i mean look um i always said that the world cup will not be a barrier to doing deals and it's not um man city are literally about to close a deal for a player that's playing in the world cup liverpool are about to close a deal for a player that's playing in the World Cup.

58:02This World Cup is fantastic, but it is not stopping people from doing transfer business.

58:09Anyway, great stuff. Thank you so much for tuning in this morning. I've saved the best till last. I can't get the thought of Brad Pitt chatting up a 10 out of 10 at the bar and Bilbo Baggins coming in and saying, do you fancy playing with my ring? But I was, I was, I was angry. I was flushed. I wasn't, I was just, I don't know. But a nice surprise, my precious. We've got a journalist on at two o 'clock with Beth, a very good journalist. Obviously we had Ben Jacobs yesterday, who's a very good journalist. We've got another one on for you two o 'clock today. So more insight coming on the channel at two o 'clock.

58:50So make sure you subscribe and tune in for that. I'll I'll be in the live chat for that. Looking forward to it. Massive amount of games coming up over on That's Football for the World Cup over the weekend as well. So you can always check us out there. Seven o 'clock tonight, definitely, because USA, Australia is at eight o 'clock. Thank you so much, everybody, for tuning in this morning. Great show as always. And I will speak to you on the next one. Take care.

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