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0:36Hope you're doing well today. Lots to get into. What is the latest with Mateus Fernandes? You know, big story coming in last night about Tottenham agreeing personal terms. We've reacted to that. What comes next? Also, should Somerville be coming next to Manchester United? I think not. Let's have that debate. But look, the reality is Manchester United want Mateus Fernandes and potentially want another midfielder. If those things don't happen, what do Man United do? Well, there is a new plan, whether you like it or not. We are again this morning with the Sunday news linked to Enmica from Dortmund.

1:12Alex Scott still remains a possibility as well. I don't want to say the word, but you know that Brighton player is still available as well. And United still dream of Chumini. And there is still a market where there's a very good Moroccan midfielder called Boadi is available as well. So other options exist. Will Man United pivot or will they stick or will they have to pivot if they miss out? We'll talk some of those stories this morning, of course. We've also got some stuff around the left back and the striker situation. Barcelona linked by marker to Cesc this morning, by the way. I mean, I think I'd like to file that under bullshit of the day award, but we can discuss that if we get time.

1:49Also need to show you the hotter meter. We've not shown you that for a while as well either. But look, the sun is shining. It's the weekend. I hope you're doing very well. And look, I think just dealing briefly with Mateus Fernandes, United, I still think, get that deal done. I mean, I don't have any inside information that we're definitely going to get it done until we actually decide to bid. We can walk. I think if United bid, they will get the deal done. If they don't bid, then maybe they will walk. As I said, if Tottenham can get personal terms agreed with the player, it probably causes an issue where I'd be a little bit concerned that we might walk away because we don't want to be in a bidding war.

2:29But the great thing about Man United, and this is a positive around Mateus Fernandes, is that we are hypocrites. I don't trust anything that comes out of that club. So when they say they'll only pay what they want, they won't go for players that don't just want them and they won't get involved in bidding wars. well I think they will get involved in a bidding war for Mateus Fernandes if he agrees terms with Spurs I think we will pay more than we want to pay for Mateus Fernandes and I think we'll end up you know contradicting our own stance so I'm not I'm not worried I think that look in an ideal world he'll only say he wants Man United we'll negotiate the price down and he will sign for United and there'll be no bidding war but I actually do think if Spurs do push it that we will get involved in it because it's about saving face and technically we did get involved in a bidding war for sesco anyway so again the hypocrisy of the club to say that they don't do bidding wars and they don't go for players that want to go to other clubs or interest in other clubs or sesco was was very much about that so you know i'm not too concerned about it um let's talk about midfielders though i do want to talk about some of them i want to get into some things uh extra as well.

3:41A couple of stories this morning, one coming in from Germany, linking Man United to Enmica again, a couple of other outlets as well. We are and have been linked to him before. I think that we have to be very, very careful. I mean, we're on safe ground with this, I think. I think most of you are intelligent people, most. But we're not linked to Enmica because he played well for Germany in the World Cup last night. I mean, I really want to avoid that moronic take because we're seeing it with Somerville. We're not linked to Enmita because he played well against the Ivory Coast last night. We're linked to him because it's a player that's been on our list for a few months.

4:22He's an interesting player. I mean, look, what I would say about Enmita is I think if we signed him, a lot of people wouldn't be particularly excited by it, but I think I'd actually be more confident in him succeeding than Edison. and I'm not saying that Edison won't succeed but if we signed Enmica I think he would be more of a success than Edison I think he is he's on Mourinho's list for Real Madrid he's a good player and maybe watching him against Germany is the first time you've thought he was a good player but he's been a good player for a long time and he is a player that United appreciate whether we'll progress on that I don't know at what stage you do, because for me, he would be the Edison alternative and we've gone for Edison.

5:09He can't be the Mateus Fernandes alternative and you can't sign Edison, Fernandes and then Mica because that just doesn't make sense as a three either. So I don't know where a player like him would come into play. United have certainly looked at him and we are linked to him again this morning. What I would say is logically I can't see how that deal happens in any way, shape or form because you're not going to sign Edison and Mica and Chermini because they're all three non-Premier League players. you're not going to sign Enmica, Mateus Fernandes and Edison. So I don't know where he would fit in with United unless we're sort of going, well, let's see what Real Madrid do.

5:53Because if Real Madrid go for Enzo and we don't get Mateus Fernandes, then they won't go for Enmica and we can go there. Maybe he's a backstop if all else fails. And maybe we will have to, worst case scenario, and I don't want to discuss it in any depth, worst case scenario, we don't get Mateus Fernandes. Worst case scenario, Chiumini doesn't leave Real Madrid. Worst case scenario, Alex Scott signs for Liverpool or Arsenal. We're going to have to do something. So, you know, maybe that's why the links are there. And I also think that there'll be a lot of United fans that do not want to acknowledge this.

6:29But worst case scenarios are sometimes something United are attracted to. If you don't get Alex Scott, if you don't get Mateus Fernandes, if you don't get Bouadi, if you don't get Chumini, where are we going for these last two midfielders? So look, plan F, G and H, definitely. But maybe that's where Anicja is. And maybe if things go wrong, that's where it could end up. So keep an eye on that. I don't think it will happen. But look, certainly somebody we've looked at in the past and somebody I think is actually very good. I think he's perfect for the Premier League, in fact. Somebody I would be much happier for his going for is Alex Scott.

7:08Now, don't sleep on Alex Scott to Manchester United. This is a player that United have quite comfortably to confirm. Sorry, they're quite comfortable confirming that he is a player of interest. This benefits United in multiple ways because it's a good, exciting player that the fan base will like. But if he does sign for Arsenal or Liverpool, they can just say, well, you know, it was a player that we looked at and we decided not to go for. So Man Utd are more than happy and it has been out even this week with David Ornstein and others as well. Alex Scott is definitely a player of interest for Manchester United.

7:44Are we going to move forward on that? Well, as we know, Bournemouth are desperate to get him to sign a new contract and put a release clause in there. As we know, Arsenal and Liverpool are monitoring the situation as well. I think for Manchester United Alex Scott at the moment look there was an article this morning saying that United are ready to pounce we were ready to pounce on Elliot Anderson and we never did anything about it, we were ready to pounce on Tonali and we've not done anything about it, we're ready to pounce on Lewis Hall, I don't think we'll do anything about it so ready to pounce for Manchester United well you could argue a stone statue of a lion is ready to pounce, it's never going to pounce but it looks like it might because it's a lion going like that.

8:26I would say Man United ready to pounce is probably less likely than that stone lion statue, to be honest with you. But apparently we are ready to pounce.

8:38I think so much of this does rest on, and I don't want to be the bearer of bad news this morning, but I think we all know all this ready to pounce, monitoring other players, etc, etc. I think it absolutely does come down to Mateus Fernandes. And I do want to go back talking about what happened last night. And if you missed last night's show, basically Mati Moreto, who is a journalist who works with Romano and others, basically said that Spurs are very close to agreeing personal terms with Mateus Fernandes and he's open to joining Tottenham. That update, if true, potentially causes us problems.

9:20but Alex Scott and Meecha and any other midfielder I just don't think we're moving on them until the conclusion of the Matias Fernandes deal and that conclusion could be us missing out acknowledge that certainly but that conclusion could be a month of talks like it was with Embermo it could be so as frustrating as it is it's something we're well versed in we're sort of doing one deal at a time again and we're stuck in that avenue of when are we going to get a conclusion on this? I'll be honest with you, I'm sort of conflicted. If I knew United were going to go for this deal no matter what, and I think they are, I'm sort of hopeful Spurs bid tomorrow or today because that's sort of what got the Sesco deal done.

10:11Newcastle being quite aggressive in trying to get him, forced us to move quicker. so I'm sort of hoping that Spurs do make a bid the risk is if Spurs make a bid and we walk away and we don't get him at all so but look we're not in control we never are in control the situation with United at the moment is yes there are other targets Alex Scott we could move on certainly but we're not going to until the conclusion of this Mateus Fernandes deal and when you look at En Buomo last year that went on for six weeks we're not even three weeks I think into this Mateus Fernandes story so we could have another three weeks of this where we don't do any other deal whilst we wait on this so that's why I'm sort of thinking Spurs putting a bid in might actually move things quicker for us so look I know that's not the update everybody wants but we do need to see the conclusion of this Mateus Fernandes deal before we start moving on others because we are a club that whether you like it or not only does one deal at a time um do I think United are panicked at the moment no I think they are the self-proclaimed relaxed football club in the transfer window and I suspect that privately they have been given an indication that the player does prefer them um but you know whether whether he prefers us or not, I'd prefer the deal to move a little bit quicker.

11:41And there was a very interesting update from Simon Stone about this actually as well. West Ham under David Gold, who's now left as their CEO, probably would have done this deal quite quickly. The new guy that's come in actually wants to invest in the club. So he probably wouldn't be blind to the fact that these players want to leave, but isn't necessarily in a rush for it to happen. So I don't think West Ham are in a rush. I don't think we're in a rush. Moto Casino, America's social casino. Welcome to Moto Casino, where the excitement never ends. With thousands of the hottest free-to-play social casino games, fastest payouts, and the best promotions in the industry.

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13:02So I think that maybe that's why some of you are excited about Somerville, because whilst we're talking to West Ham about Fernandez, we could almost kill two birds with one stone and sign Somerville as well because we're already in conversation. and the efficiency of that I completely understand like you know if we go and buy a left winger or a forward from somewhere else you've got to start um or not David Gold David Sullivan um I'm not a West Ham fan so I'm I really don't give a shit about what names I'm getting right or wrong on that you know what I meant the point is they've got a new investor in they've got a new CEO if you're a West Ham fan apologies this is the United stand I'm not really bothered about your technical team or your directors or anything like that um what I am bothered about is what Man United are in the transfer window.

13:47And if we go and buy or look to buy a winger or a striker from another club, you start from ground zero again. If you're already talking to West Ham about Fernandes and then you're talking to them about Somerville as well, it might speed things up a little bit there as well. So maybe that's why some people are quite excited about that. And I must acknowledge that the efficiency of Somerville will be quicker than going for somebody else as well. In relation to Somerville, I do want to just run a poll on this because there's a, You know what? This happens every World Cup and every Euros. And you put the warning signs out and still people do it.

14:27So would you be happy with Somerville? Yes or no, if you're watching live. If you're not, get your comments in. Let me know why you would like Somerville or why you wouldn't. Because yes or no is a bit boring, isn't it? In relation to Somerville, right? it's a little bit like having a lake in Australia, right? And it's a hot day and it's your lake. And you put a big sign saying, please don't swim. It's got to be shorter than that. Beware crocodiles in the lake. Yeah. Crocodiles could live in that lake. Don't go swimming in it. Beware crocodiles in lake. No swimming. Yeah. People will still fucking swim in it.

15:05they will that's just human nature the sign is there it's all the way around the lake people will still swim in the lake and you sort of like go i can't believe they've done that when the sign says don't do it they'll still do it right people will still scout players in a world cup they'll still do it they'll watch a player in the world cup and they'll go we should sign them even though anybody who knows anything about football knows international football is a bubble. These players only get together for a couple of weeks so the tactics and the formations and the systems are not as solid as they are if you play in a club team.

15:45And also it's slower than club football. But you will still get people who spot a player and go, we should sign them for Man United. There was a lad in the Ivory Coast midfield yesterday, not Kessie, not Sangari, I forget his name, and people were going, we should be signing him for Man United. And you're like, oh my God. And you know where I'm going with this. Somerville scores a good goal yesterday. We should sign him. Now, the people who say we should sign him before the World Cup, respect. But people were saying last week, don't sign Somerville. The same people are going, we should sign Somerville because he scored a good goal last night in the World Cup.

16:24And it's like, that to me terrifies me. It's Karol Paborski FC, if anyone's old enough, right? It's like, do not sign players because they score a good goal in the World Cup. Paborski literally scored a world-class goal in the Euros with a little chip. Absolute waste of money. Never should have done it. Do I want to sign Somerville? No. I don't. I don't think he's that good. I really don't. I think he's okay. I don't think he's as good as people think he is. I think that also, at what point are we going to stop signing people like Somerville? For me, it's just another Cunha, it's another Mbomo.

17:03Nothing wrong with those players, nothing wrong with those players, but they're a certain type of player in their mid-twenties who've done well for lower Premier League level clubs. I don't think keeping buying players like that is going to take us to a title. It can work, you know, Cunha looks like a very good player and hopefully Mbomo will be as well. but how many more West Ham and Wolves and both those teams have been relegated as well how many more players from that level are we going to buy? Now I've got a problem with Mateus Fernandes because I think he's going to be a player that Real Madrid want him I think he's going to be a top, top class player but how many more players are we going to buy around 50, 60 million pounds because they're cheap?

17:45And Somerville is at least the plan D for Man United as well Plan A was Semenu Plan B was Diamande Plan C was Morgan Rodgers And now we're down to Plan D as well Now look, I completely accept that if we sign him I'll back him Because Plan D is better than Plan E And it's better than Plan Nothing But let's not try and pretend that this signing If we make it Is something that the club originally planned They've already publicised themselves That he's a Plan D signing So apologies I'm not massively excited about signing Somerville. So when I see people out there going, oh, he's perfect for Man United.

18:24Oh, this player's a superstar in the making. Oh, this player, right? This player, this player, this player. And I'm sort of like, okay, I hope he does really well. But I think from a recruitment point of view, it's absolutely shit. Because in the space of six months, we've gone from Semenyu to Diamande to Rodgers to Somerville. And this is my problem with this board. I'm tired. I'm actually bored of this board, not delivering our manager the plan A and B options he needs to try and close the gap on Man City and Arsenal. And I'm tired of watching Man City and Arsenal go out and get plan A and plan B because Elliot Anderson's plan A for Man City, isn't he?

19:01Semenyu was plan A for Man City. Gehi was plan A for Man City. You look at Arsenal. I know they've not done any business yet, but you look at what they did last summer. Whatever you think about these players, I'm not saying they're all success, but Jokerez was plan A. Declan Rice was plan A. You know, we seem to be very, very good at signing every player that's not a plan A, B or C. Look, Sesco's done very well for us, but he wasn't planned A, B, C, might have been D, probably was E. So look, Somerville is better than nothing. And he will be better than whoever the next person down the list is.

19:39So I acknowledge that maybe we should get him. But what frustrates me is that, again, we're buying players that suit this football club in relation to price. And actually, you know what? We probably won't sign Somerville now. The hilarious thing is the debate is probably irrelevant because we probably won't sign Somerville now because he scored a goal in the World Cup and other clubs will go, we like Somerville. And his price will go up from, I think we were looking at 40 to 50. It's probably going to go up to 60 now because he scored in the World Cup. But, well, I don't want to pay£60 million.

20:11Not for Somerville, for me. And also, I watch football. I don't know about you lot, but I watch football beyond Manchester United. And Somerville played in a relegated West Ham side. And he was okay. Just like Jared Bowen was okay. But he wasn't Yandiamonde. He wasn't Morgan Rodgers. He wasn't Semenyugud. You know, he was okay. He's a decent, okay player. but he ain't bloody Andy Amande and he ain't Semenyu. There's a very big drop-off from those two players down to him as well. So again, I just sort of go back to what I said before. How many more okay players are we going to buy from, you know, bottom level Premier League clubs?

20:52Because I don't think Mateus Fernandes is okay. I think Mateus Fernandes is a superstar in the making. I don't think Somerville is and that's my issue with that. Lunda says, just like Mateus Fernandes, you mean? No, I don't think that. I think that's the simplistic argument of a moron, if I'm being honest. I think Mateus Fernandes is 21 with the potential to be as good as Elliot Anderson or Declan Rice or whoever you want to pitch it at. I think Somerville is in his mid-20s. I don't think he's going to be any better than Harvey Barnes, if I'm being completely honest. That's too far. Harvey Barnes is not a bad player, but I don't think you can say, well, Mateus Fernandes is from West Ham.

21:35It's like saying, well, why did we buy Kunia from Wolves? He's no better than Jao Gomez. Well, he fucking is. It's like saying, well, why did we buy Mbermo from Brentford? He's no better than Jordan Henderson. Well, he is. But West Ham did get relegated. I mean, some of our fans would have us buying Dioff, bring Wan-Bissaka back, Jared Bowen, Somerville. And, I mean, there's literally a content creator out there, I've heard, who it sounds like he'd buy half the West Ham team. because he likes Jared Bowen, he likes Somerville, he likes Mateus Fernandes, he likes Diouf, and he'd probably bring Wan-Bissaka back.

22:12I mean, that's half a relegated side. And that's my point. At some point, you've got to go, why are we buying West Ham players? I genuinely have heard somebody say that. I've also heard separate people say, Diouf would be a good signing. Bowen would be a good signing. I'd bring Wan-Bissaka back. Somerville would be a good signing. You're buying half a relegated side. there's a reason they got relegated and look I'm not saying Fred Fred says Dioff's alright I'm not saying Dioff individually isn't a good signing for United I'm not saying Somerville individually isn't a good signing for United but we can't be in for three or four or five West Ham players and pretend that that's going to be a good thing for Manchester United I personally think Dioff is a bit average and I've said that before I wouldn't go anywhere near Jared Bowen Wan-Bissaka I don't think I'd bring him back I'd sign Mateus Fernandes in a heartbeat and Somerville if it's that or nothing I would do the deal all I'm saying is is that I'm not excited by that deal because if you'd said to me in March our winger's going to be Somerville I would have said well we've gone from Semenyu to Diamande to Rodgers to Somerville I think the other three players even though Rodgers is not really a winger I think those three players are better I'd rather keep Rashford than sign Somerville says Mohamed and I think that's a point I think that's a I think that's a very Relevant point You know Would you rather have Rashford than Somerville?

23:43I don't really want to answer it Because you get pinned down But it's a point Rassler says Update on Fernandes You need to tune in early mate Because the hardcore Will get very very angry with me If I start going back on Fernandes Would you consider Sebarri Well he's going to buy Munich So if we were going to consider him, then, you know, we should have considered him by now. What I would say on the midfield is the frustration for me personally, I can only project that the frustration for me is the not not slowness because it's still only the 21st of June. There's two and a bit months left of the window, so I can't call it slowness.

24:24I would say Emily Derry nailed it a couple of days ago when she said we go into every transfer window with optimism, excitement and hope. And by the middle of June, the club willingly pop that optimism, destroy that hope and leave you unexcited by what is clearly going to be another slow and pragmatic transfer window. That's my frustration. the things that compound that frustration and and it really does and nobody's going to make me feel any better than that about this is watching liverpool our biggest rival bid 100 million euros for diamonde and then hear that they're going to bid again watching man city our city rival who've destroyed us over the last 10 years bid for a player that's perfect for us in elliot anderson and then watching tottenham a club of ridicule be more ambitious and aggressive and spend more in the window on players that we should be going for their frustrations if jason wilcox or emar barada or sir jim radcliffe want to have a chat about how that's irrational i don't think they'd have a leg to stand on and we'd probably get the truth they'd probably said well they probably said well at the end of the day we can't compete with those clubs and I would say we can't compete with Spurs.

25:42So you're basically admitting we can't compete then because that frustrates me and nobody's going to come in with an argument that can defeat that. You might agree with us not spending money but you can't defeat the fact that Spurs are spending 80, 90 million pounds on Tonali and looking to buy Fernandes as well. I mean, it's illogical. It doesn't make any sense to me how they're doing that and we're not. I don't know how they're doing it. They're not in the Champions League. I don't know why we can't compete. that frustrates me and also what frustrates me is just getting locked into this one deal at a time sort of stuff with very slow movement on it because United will tell you that you know we're very confident that we can get Mateus Fernandes and it will take as long as it takes and we're not going to be rushed and we're not going to panic and that's absolutely fine they're in control they can decide how slow they work on a deal that's absolutely nothing to do with us but there is a lot to do this transfer window and every day or week you spend on Mateus Fernandes is a day or week less to spend on other deals you know um Andy Atherton says I touched on this yesterday on That's Football we have Dorgou who's a highly exciting left winger we have Kunya who is a different option as a left forward and Lacey as a prospect why are we looking at left wingers says Andy Atherton I think you've answered your own question mate uh Kunya isn't a winger uh Dorgu is a young up-and-coming player who's also had a severe injury.

27:05And Lacey, as a prospect, should never be considered as part of the roster. He's a prospect, he's a bonus. So I think you've answered your own question, even though it's not the answer you think. I personally think Lacey, you can't count. Konya's not a left winger. And Dorgu, one injury and you haven't got a winger. I think when you're going into the Champions League and the Premier League, you do need more squad depth than that um brett look ultimately for me we do need to bring rashford back or we do need to buy a left winger i don't think we have enough um the way we're going at it it's that newcastle from last uh sorry brett says the way we're going is that it sorry i don't know you broke this well brett the way we are going it's us that are the new newcastle from last season you did write it well I just couldn't get my words out um you know I yeah I mean that that's not necessarily my issue with this window there is still plenty of time left we still can get Mateus Fernandes but as I say the frustrating thing is we're moving slow again I think the optimism has dissipated again and I think that we are clearly gonna get outbid to play I mean when Tonali signs for Spurs if you'd said to me in March when we were heavily linked to Tonali Tonali will sign for Spurs and we won't even bid I'd go we must have signed Anderson then no no we won't bid on that either right we must be signing Bruno G then no no he's staying at Newcastle we must have signed Chumini then no that's not happened either I'd be like what Tonali signed for Spurs and we haven't done anything no And when that happens, that's going to be in my head.

28:52It's like, how the fuck have we allowed that to happen? Because I think Tonali, as a replacement for Casemiro, is virtually perfect. I know they're a different profile of player, but I think he's perfect. So for him to go to Spurs and strengthen a club that's trying to catch us up, I find it a bit strange. But look, to paint a positive picture, and people will say you're drunk, Bwadi is still available. I think he's a very exciting player. Alex Scott is still available. I think he's a very exciting player. Schermini is technically still available and I think he's almost the perfect replacement for Casemiro because he replaced him at Real Madrid.

29:30And Mateus Fernandes is still a deal that United can do. So look, there's four options there. If you could get two out of those four with Edison, you've got a good midfield. I can't sit here and say that that's not possible because it is possible. the problem is if I was a betting person and I had to gamble everything I own that Man United will get to out of Boadi Mateus Fernandes Alex Scott and Chiamini I'd bet they don't they can but I'd bet that they won't but it's still possible like it's not like the shop's empty there are still good midfield auctions out there Patrick Lynch says nothing against Edison but the more I think about it the more I feel it's a signal of our board's intent It's about what they think is best business rather than best players.

30:17I like Edison, Patrick, and I think you might surprise a few people. To play devil's advocate, the one thing I think we all have to acknowledge about Edison is that whatever happened with Edison, we decided not to go anywhere near him for three years, despite him being on our books. Despite him being a player of interest, he was that interesting that we ignored it for three years. In fact, Edison was that much of a priority for Man United that when he was about to sign for Atletico Madrid in January, we sat back and did nothing. So I like Edison and I think he might surprise a few people, but the club definitely only went for him very late, very late.

30:56And why did they do it? I don't know. But he was literally signing for Atletico Madrid in January and Atletico Madrid decided we don't want to pay 40 million pounds. so they walked. But he thought he was going to Atletico Madrid. Atalanta thought he was going to Atletico Madrid and it just fell apart because Atletico Madrid didn't want to pay. So if he was such a priority for Man United, how come four months ago we didn't swoop in and stop that happening? So something changed in the last four months where United suddenly decided, you know what, let's go for Edison. If it's quality over quantity, why are we not bidding on top tier players?

31:32If it's vice versa, aren't we getting three or four players in already? Could it be neither? says Alomar. Emily Derry says, I know Joel Glazer is notoriously slow at making decisions, but surely he can decide more than one thing at a time. Not holding my breath, says Emily. I mean, you can blame the Glazers for that, Emily, because they put the structure in place. The reality is, and I've asked this question before from people in the know, why can Man United only do one deal at a time? Because they're just not competent enough to do more than one deal at a time. The people that need to be involved in the deal all focusing on one deal.

32:07They don't have the structure or the know-how to do two deals at the same time because Wilcox, Matt Hargreaves, Barada will all be working on Mateus Fernandes. They won't have the ability to be working on Alex Scott or anybody else at the same time. We just never have done it. So what would happen is if Mateus Fernandes falls through or gets done, we'd then pivot onto the next deal, but we won't be working on two. So, you know, Arsenal did this brilliantly. Berta, the director of football, did this brilliantly, and he's done it a couple of times. So when he went into Arsenal, they basically had Jokeres and Sesko, and they worked on both deals at the same time, so much so that neither striker knew which way Arsenal were going to go.

32:54So there was agent talks with both, there was club talks with both, and they lined them up to the point of, this is how much this is going to cost, this is how much this is going to cost, and then they made their choice. Arsenal literally worked on two deals at the same time and then made their choice. And ultimately, it probably got them a better deal on price. I'm not saying Jokeres was a better deal than Sesko. That's not the point. But Arsenal chose Jokeres over Sesko, having lined them both up. Imagine if we did that. Imagine if we did that. We need to buy two midfielders. Why not work on two at the same time?

33:33Rashford or Barcola, what's the best option, says Giovanni. I mean, I'd take Barcola over Rashford. Potential age, yeah. And also, I don't believe in going back. Ineos promised they would make United a respected club again. Barcelona toying with us shows that we're less than respected than ever, says Marlo. And Elliott says, my worry is if Fernandes goes to Madrid for over 80 million, would Madrid up the price for Chiamini with the current market trends? United wouldn't pay, says Elliott Elliott. I don't think they would. I think the price for Chiamini will be somewhere between £60 and£70 million regardless he's only got two years left on his contract if he's not going to sign a new contract and he's not really going to play Real Madrid would look to cash in there and I think we'd get the deal done for£60 to£70 I don't think Real Madrid we have got a good quite a good relationship with Real Madrid when it comes to buying their players and I think that they would do a deal with us to be fair Mr Solo thank you welcome to the members club appreciate you thank you very much for that and Dawid says before the transfer window opened what players would you have said we need to get as a minimum?

35:10uh six six minimum for me uh three midfielders a left back a backup goalkeeper and either a left winger or a backup striker so six minimum um i know some people would say seven or eight but definitely those six positions really for me it's not acceptable to come out of this window without three midfielders a left back and a forward of some description whether it be a left winger or an attacker we're just going to need it um and and let's not forget it's not it's not just you know i'm not gonna sit here and go well we got three midfielders it's got to be it's not just three midfielders it's it's three midfielders of a certain combination because three midfielders could be Hayden Hackney Carlos Belaber and Edison I mean that's just shockingly shit as a balanced midfield so it's not just three midfielders it's the right balance it's the Edison signing it's the mid-tier signing and it's the marquee signing that that that's really important as well um I don't get it uh says Razzler why do we spend well to go back into the Champions League but cut back once we qualify one step forward two steps back it's what is it's the same as before any us well exactly razzler again you sort of answered the question because i'm sure there'd be loads of people in the live chat or in the comments jumping in on that one to say we've always done this um under the glazes we've always done this i mean when marino came in we weren't in europe and we went and got pogba for 90 million pounds um i can't remember the someone we bought harry maguire But certainly when we're not in Europe, we spend.

36:49When we are in Europe, we try not to spend. It's a strange glazer tactic that has been a part of the football club for the last 13 years, where it's almost like they panic when we're not in Europe. So they go and spend the money. In fact, I think I'm right in saying that when Ten Hag came in, we weren't in Europe again. and we spent, well, we spent£130 million on Casemiro and Anthony in the final week of the window. So we've always, as Razzler said, spent a lot of money when we're not in Europe. And then when we are in Europe, we tend not to replicate it because we go, well, we're already there.

37:31But I think now in 2026, more than any other year, this new Champions League format is so lucrative that if you are in it, you've almost got to look at how you stay in it. Because look, this time last year, Newcastle, Chelsea, Spurs, living the dream. £100 million of revenue playing Champions League football. Ooh, we've got Real Madrid, you know, we've got Barcelona. This summer, you're gone. Man United and Villa have took your place. So a year in the Champions League can be, you know, out of it a year later. Five Star says, Why are they taking so long? Waiting equals higher price. Thank you very much.

38:13And GingerRed868 says, United have got no ambition apart from building their dream stadium and ripping off their fans, and we just take it. Why? To be honest, mate, absolutely got no issue with any United fan or any United fan group. I just think when it comes to protests or glazer out movements or unhappiness or anything like that, stadium being knocked down, i just think there's a general acceptance in the fan base that there's nothing we can do we are at that we are the victim of whatever this ownership decides to do good or bad um it either works with them or it crashes down with them but there's you know we're powerless the only thing i think would i mean a lot with that that's not what today is about the only thing that changes that i think is if it's a it's a little bit like politics isn't it you know if you've got a party or a leader that's not very good and you want them out, your only option really is when the election comes along.

39:11But if there's not a viable alternative, a lot of people will stick with what they've got. And at United, there's just no viable alternative. So you can say, where's the protests? Where's this, that? Where's this, that? Another? There's no other option. I think if Elon Musk walked forward or another multi-billionaire and said, I want Man United, I'm going to make it the greatest club in the world i think the protests would come back i think there would be a movement but there is no alternative so that's why it's quiet on that front and you know maybe one day it will happen maybe one day it won't happen but i you know many of us all have always said that if a viable billionaire came along you'd get into all the fan groups and i'd stand and all and everybody and say look backers supporters it's going to be a bumpy ride but we'll get them out together but there is nothing like that coming down the line um what do you think about zrawi considering retirements as henry i don't know whether that's true or not i think he's sort of like looking at his life and obviously he's very religious uh i think he's looking at his life and you know planning for life beyond football and you know that's absolutely fine i don't think he's gonna retire um i think i think it's national duty as well isn't it i don't think it's it's club football but you know i think that Carrick doesn't even pick Masraoui so ultimately I really do rate him but we are talking about a player that ultimately is a bench player for Man United and Man United might look to sell him at some point in the next year or two anyway um which I don't mind I mean I do rate Masraoui but if the manager must be backed and that's that's on sales as well as incomings um Ray Carl Brown I hope you're more he says I hope you're doing well sorry I said I say I hope you're doing well I would only take Somerville as squad option not a first team player which is option A.

40:57Thank you, Ray. Hope you're doing well. And Rajaf says, I cannot comprehend how one of the best midfielders in the Premier League at 26 is going to a club that finished 17th back-to-back. What the fuck, Tonali? But in fairness to Tonali, are we bidding for him? I'm sure Tonali sat there going, if Man United bid for me, I'd go. If Man City bid for me, I'll go. If Arsenal bid for me, I'll go. If they don't, I'm going to Tottenham. I very much guarantee that is the situation. It is not Tonali's fault he's signing for Spurs and not Man United. It's Man United's fault. It's our lack of ambition, you know?

41:41Ludicrously, we have a negotiation team who have to negotiate upwards with the ownership and down with the selling club simultaneously, and they do a poor job at both no wonder we go cheap and slow says emily derry uh and dirty deed says jim radcliffe said they learned from owning nice they have never bought a player over 23 million euros and no marquee ever can we learn anything from that mate absolutely look i i i don't i've never i've never heard anybody counter what i'm about to say but sir jim radcliffe did an interview very near the start and spoke about not wanting to buy players of high value anymore and spoke about not paying silly wages anymore.

42:22Whether we like it or not, the evidence stacks up that we don't want to buy players over 80 million pounds and we don't want to pay people over 200 grand a week. And it seems to me that we're following that model because, well, who have we done that's done that? I mean, we haven't bought a player over 80 million pounds since Ineos came in and we haven't given anybody a wage over 200 grand a week either. So I think that when that's been adhered to on every recruitment made so far under Ineos, it's pretty fair to assume that that's the parameters that we're operating to. Well, that prevents you signing Tonali because he's going to be on over 200 grand a week and he's going to cost more than 80 million pounds.

43:07that prevents you signing diamante because he's going to be over 80 million pounds that prevents you from signing elliot anderson because it's going to be over that thing so we can almost i mean look i i personally think we can also say we don't buy players over 26 in our recruitment we're quite easy to predict and also also if i'm a selling club if i if we as fans know we're not going to buy people over 26 we're not going to pay over 200 grand a week and we're not going to pay over 80 million pounds if we know that as fans you can guarantee selling clubs know it as well if they don't want to sell to us because man united come for their players you just say the price is 80 million pounds i think united have made it so obvious what our what our limits are he may as well write it out on carrington on the gate i I think it's very obvious that we, and I think that's poor ownership, by the way.

44:05I don't think Sir Jim Nadliff ever should have said that, but I'm pretty sure he did say words to that effect, and we've certainly adhered to it ever since. So, you know, most decent players are going to cost you more than 80 million. Most game changers are going to cost you more than 80 million. Most marquee signings are going to cost you more than 80 million pounds, aren't they? In today's market, they are, because Kaiseido went for 100 million a few years ago. Harry Maguire went for£80 million seven years ago. God say, Anthony went for£80 million. So I think that we're ruling... Look, it goes back to what I said before.

44:41Why do we keep buying players from Brentford and Wolves and West Ham? Well, it's pretty obvious when you think about it because they're not going to cost more than£70 million. We're fishing in a pond

44:58where the top teams very rarely fish. Because we have to go to the West Ham's and the Wolves and the Brentford's for their best players because they won't cost more than 70 million quid. Whereas if you go to the Dortmund's and the Leipzig's and the top, top players, you're going to pay over 80 million pounds. Look, I'd love to be wrong on that. I'd love to go live tomorrow and say, Man United have swooped in and took Diamande from Leipzig for a 100 million package or you know Anderson for 120 million package or Tonali for a 90 million package but sadly I think we're quite predictable and sadly that pops excitement because we can sort of predict look somebody will come into the show tomorrow and they'll say Ryerson did really well against Norway he's had a great season for Dortmund he's only going to cost about 25 million pounds we should go for him instantly 75 % of the chat say well he's over 26 we won't go for him and they'll be right they'll be right and you know we might watch uh the spain game later and may maybe pedris fell out with barcelona and he's available for 100 million quid we should go and get him but we won't because he's over 80 million pounds so it's not as exciting when you know the parameters that United are working to and I think we have set those parameters now I don't think any intelligent ownership sets those parameters anyway I don't think Arsenal would say we're not buying a player over 26 I don't think Man City would say we're not paying a player over 200 grand a week anymore and I don't think Liverpool would say we're not buying players over 80 million pounds anymore we've set three not over 26 not over 200 grand a week not over 80 million pounds that's incredible for a high-level sports team to do that by the way but we have the reasons we've done it are financial we don't want people over 26 because there's no resale value we don't want to pay over 200 grand a week because it brings the wage bill down and we don't want to pay over 80 million pounds because it saves us money so every every i mean look we can't act surprised we sacked half our workforce and we didn't do it for a laugh so jim radcliffe didn't call in every member of staff from united you know with a bottle of champers going oh i don't know oh yes you can stay oh no you can't like they got rid of them to save money everything we do has an understandable core like they're not doing it for a laugh they're not not paying 80 million pounds plus because they're knobs they're paying it because they want to save money they're not not giving out big wages because they're knobheads.

47:39It's because they want to save money. But does running a successful football club go hand in hand with these parameters? Well, we'll have to wait and see. We'll have to wait and see, won't we? Rob says, it feels like Ineos have no autocracy and are completely under the Glazer's shadow. Well, look, Rob, I think, as we said the other night, some people forget that the Glazers run the football club. I think Ineos are trying to play money ball, says Razzler yeah yeah I do I think it's a fantastic full sorry a fantastic film and Data Dean from the Formula One team is Jonah Hill I suppose if you've ever seen that fantastic film I do think United are trying to hit a money ball but the funny thing is we're not the only ones Brighton have been doing this for years lots of other clubs are trying to do this now so even if we're successful it's going to be very hard to be successful when loads of other clubs are already following a money ball system um vantic says i think united may overpay for somerville and underpay for fernandez this way west ham won't have to share as much with southampton due to sell on whoa see that's intelligence that's intelligent vantic i you know what low key that could be one of the comments of the year i'd not thought about that so basically west hammer trying to pump the price up for fernandez because there's a salon clause to southampton if man united come in and say look we're not going to give you 80 million for fernandez but we'll give you 60 and then we'll give you 60 for summerville you get another 15 more for summerville into your pocket than what he's worth, we might do that.

49:33We might do that. We might not be clever enough to do that, but we might do that. It's not a bad idea. Mark, Jordan says, Mark, me and my mate were debating this, but would you rather get a tier two midfielder in Yandy Amonde or a tier one midfielder in Somerville?

49:53I'd like to be part of that debate, Jordan, because you do realise I need two more midfielders and Yandiamonde or Somerville. Like, it's not about the tier. I need two more midfielders beyond Edison. So if it's two midfielders and Yandiamonde or it's two midfielders and Somerville, Yandiamonde. If it's one more midfielder and Yandiamonde or it's two more midfielders and Somerville, Somerville. I've got to get two midfielders. Absolutely have to. Rajaf says the Glazer tactic ensures mediocrity and cash. and Santos says, Hi Mark, just joined, might have missed it. Looking at Amicia for Germany, looks a great prospect.

50:32Any news or thoughts? Literally spoke about him at the start of the show. I'd say he's on United's list, but pretty low down. I don't think it will happen, but he may well end up going to Real Madrid anyway. Nish says, Why United not going for Tonali? Too expensive for us, but not too expensive for Spurs. There we are. He's signing two players from a relegated side. Why? Says Rajaf. I don't think it is, but it doesn't mean it won't work. Michael says it's all about the new stadium. Right. On Somerville, would you be happy signing Somerville? 51 % say yes. 49 % say no. That's what you call a split.

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