443: HIJACKED?! Fernandes TRANSFER Shambles!

0:05I don't know if it does it like this or not. It might do. Might do it that way. I'm just going to go for it. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United transfer news. How are we all doing? I am live. I can see it there. It didn't warn me. It didn't warn me. Well, I've... Okay. Lots to get into on the show today. We're in the garden. It's very hot in the UK and we've got some hot news for you. And I'm probably a little, I don't keep, I don't need these on. I'm probably a little bit hot anyway, if I'm being honest. Hot under the collar, certainly not weather related, United related.

0:38I'm just generally not happy about some of the stuff that's coming out today. The Fernandes thing concerns me. The Agate stuff concerns me. But you know what? You know what? Let's ignore all that. Let's forget about all that because Man United have bought some land. United have got some land. That's the big news. Forget the transfer window. Forget the midfield. Forget how hard it's going to be to get back in the Champions League next year. The Glazers and Ineos have bought a bit more land so they can double their value in the club. We celebrate it. I mean at the end of the day, I reckon everybody get yourself down Old Trafford, leave work, get yourself down Old Trafford and start cheering because we've got some land.

1:12We've got some more land. We can build the stadium at some point in the future and make the Glazers and Ineos rich. I mean, is that the real play? Michael Carrick, get us fourth place for the next 10 years and we'll make you rich because I sort of like don't care about the stadium. I don't even want the stadium to get knocked down. So I don't really care about the stadium. What I do care about is the midfield. What I do care about is Man United's transfer window. And what I do care about is updates coming in today that United may well not buy a third midfielder because there is a chance that Manuel Agate could stay at the football club.

1:45Effectively, what Beth was saying this morning, a sell to buy policy, which I just find absolutely incredible. Also, I think what Romano said about Spurs and Fernandes, we need to delve into that because that is concerning um i don't know what your interpretation of it is but the fact that he said whoever presents the best deal to tottenham probably gets the deal done makes me believe that personal terms on both players is probably um doable for tottenham which i didn't think was doable for us as well so that's a bit of a concern as well we'll talk about rashford uh i want to talk about somerville um i want to let me just say this actually i think sometimes you should get these sort of things in early.

2:28In relation to Somerville and Manchester United, why are we shopping at West Ham? You know, is somebody going to say to me it's a coincidence that we're in for Mateus Fernandes and we're in for Somerville? They both play for bloody West Ham. This rings out to me of, you know, like if you go if you go to like, look, imagine you're having a barbecue yeah you've got a barbecue on Saturday good the weather's good you're going to pop yourself down to Tesco yeah you're going to get yourself some burgers you're going to get some baps you're going to get something for the vegetarians exactly yeah but you also go I need a new polo shirt you know do I get Lacoste do I get Boss do I get Ralph Lauren and then when you're at Tesco you go you know what I can't be arsed they actually sell clothes at Tesco now I'm just going to pick up one of those polo shirts it's lazy it's not going to be the best quality and you're getting it because you're lazy and it's there.

3:26And I feel like Somerville is a little bit like that. We're getting the burgers, we're getting the bats from Tesco. And while we're there, we're going, oh, they do close here and they're cheap instead of going the Ralph Lauren or the Lacoste or the Hugo Boss, right? And I think that's how I feel about Somerville. It's like, wow, you know what? We're getting a load of criticism anyway. We need a left winger. They've got a cheap one and we're already talking to them anyway. We don't need to pop into town. And that's how I feel about Somerville. I just feel like it's a massive coincidence that we're suddenly buying players from West Ham.

3:58I wouldn't be surprised if we get Dioff from there as well. I wouldn't be surprised if it had Dream left back as well soon. Anyway, that's not what I wanted to start talking about. Land secured for the new stadium. Yes, I couldn't actually give a shit about this, but it's not the Freightliner land. Simon Stone's just confirmed to us that's not the Freightliner land. So the Freightliner land, which they do need to build the stadium, that's not what it is. uh so anybody who's running upstairs with the tissues with the financial times under one pocket and this under the other and the tissues in the mouth yeah don't get too excited it's not freight liner land and actually i'm not excited about that anyway because i want to talk about the transfer situation so look what's got me hot under the collar today essentially a couple of stories bothered me um wasn't on the morning show this morning because i had to go to the dentist so beth's uh swapped with me today which is absolutely fine i get to be in the garden with you good people um it's all right my dog's behind me i have to watch out for her i don't know whether you can see the dog oh yeah over my shoulder there is that the dog i think it is yeah you can probably see it better than me because it's small um she basically uh she'd be very tell you what she's a bit like jason wilcox you know that tree she watches the tree for squirrels yeah and jason wilcox is watching west ham for any deal that will drop out of that tree and then he'll pounce and he doesn't matter how long he's gonna wait he doesn't matter how long he's gonna wait he'll sit there attentively i'll wait here all summer i'll wait here all summer the trouble is the squirrel might not come out there might be no squirrels coming out um anyway let's delve into this so look samuel luckhurst in the sun a few other people this morning reporting about agate and i i take it as a brief to be honest united haven't contacted us to say it's not a brief if they do i'm more than happy to to correct it but i think this feels like a brief um obviously Agate played for Uruguay last night and did quite well and it's been my concern this to me is probably one of the biggest developments we've had in a few weeks and it does really really bother me so basically what's being said and I do think it's a brief because it's come out from a few different people is that United aren't even touting a price around for Agate at the moment because they don't want to come across as desperate and also they are sort of preparing for a world where he actually stays at the football club.

6:13And then there's other reports that we won't go for a third midfielder unless we sell Agate. Now, I want to tell you why I think this is bad. And you might have a different interpretation of me. This is bad to me. And look, I was messaging in our WhatsApp group this morning about this, and I haven't seen the morning show yet because I've been so busy. But my issue with this is that, look, of course, Agate is going to be hard to sell. He's on 120 grand a week. We spent 60 million pounds on him. I appreciate he's going to be very very difficult to sell the issue with it is inios wilcox barada can't blame the glazers on this one they bloody bought him you know rasmus mason mount they didn't buy him but they did buy agate so it's on their watch um my issue with it is is that i know it's going to be hard to sell agate but for 12 months we've known we needed three midfielders and next season's going to be really really difficult and i don't know a football club like man united that does this all the time, sell to buy.

7:08We know we need a midfielder, but we're not getting one until we get rid of the bag of the shit that we're not going to use. And we do this consistently and it absolutely does my head in. And we will do it. We will do it. And it absolutely pisses me off. So effectively, we will not buy the third midfielder until Agate is gone. And we've done this before. We did it with McTominay. Funnily enough, we did it with Agate. We needed a midfielder we needed them in for pre-season we needed them in for the first game of the season we didn't bloody get them because we wouldn't buy a guard until we got rid of mctominy we must be the only big club in the premier league that does this where we know we need something but we won't go and get it until we've got rid of this it's like having you know what another analogy yeah it's like having i don't do that it's too too borderline gary wouldn't be happy you can't really do do it about humans i was saying like if you if you're in a relationship and your partner's just redundant but the the reason they'd be redundant not job redundant like they're just no i can't go there so like imagine you've got a car on your drive and it's got no engine and it's got no wheels and it's totally and utterly you can't use it but you need a car there's cars on the market you've got the money to spend on it but you're like i'm not going to get the car i need until i get rid of the banger and nobody wants the banger so you haven't got a car and And that's how United work.

8:32It just doesn't work in football. You can't say to Michael Carrick or this fan base, we're not going to get a third midfielder until we sell Agate. And this fan base isn't going to go, yeah, yeah, this is actually, I'm on board with this. I actually agree with you on this. We shouldn't buy the midfielder that we need until we've sold Agate. I'm absolutely on board on this. It does mad in. We do it all the time. It's business. It's not football. So effectively, what could happen is we could start the season without the third midfielder that we need because we haven't got rid of Agate. So what you're effectively doing, because this is business and not football, what you're effectively doing is saying Agate's a load of shit and we don't want to use him, but we're not buying a midfielder until we get rid of him.

9:17So we'll use Agate. what does that do for the ambition and mentality of this fan base if the club is saying you know this Agate player that Amrum didn't pick and Carrick didn't pick and we'd rather use Mason Mount than him we're keeping him we're keeping him because we're not buying anyone until we get rid of him it's it's so it's so resolute it's so ridiculous it's so redundant it's such a stupid way to run a football club and we do it all the time now you know what do you think Arsenal would do that you think arsenal would go go are these available but we're not signing him in we're not going to sign him until we get rid of nor god yeah we're not gonna do you think liverpool will go yeah we're not going to get adam water now or alex scott until we've sold curtis jones think man city are going to do it you it might happen naturally but you don't put your plans on hold to do it and and and you know what it's a real bugbear of mine that it's almost become another parameter.

10:17And the last thing you want to do with your football club is be able to read it like a book. And I'm not talking about a very good book. You know, I'm not talking about Wuthering Heights. You know, I'm not talking about Oliver Twist. I'm talking about, sorry, I'm talking about, I'm talking about Spot the Dog. You know, you know, when you, have you ever read Spot the Dog? Don't read it when you're over 20. It's boring. Where's the ball? Well, there's a piece of cardboard here. I bet it's under there. Yes, it is. Oh, let's open the page. Where's the ball? Oh, there's a bit of cardboard there pretending to be like a quilt.

10:49Oh, it's in there. Where's the next page? Where's the ball? Oh, look, there's a bit of cardboard with a door on it. I bet that's where it is. You know, that's the sort of book we're reading with Manchester United. The parameters we have in place at the moment are this. We won't buy people over£80 million. We won't buy people over£200 ,000 a week in wages. We won't buy people over£26 ,000. And we won't buy people until we get rid of people. Well, these parameters are going to break our legs. you know they are you know what it is it's basically like you know imagine Usain Bolt in his prime it would be like before you go out and win the gold medal Usain let's just hit your legs with a sledgehammer a bit they might break they might not we're literally damaging our own chances by damaging our manager damaging our club these parameters just don't work they're business parameters we're run by Prats that's what we are um so no I'm not happy about that Agathe update And I literally said it in our group chat this morning.

11:47I went, they're the words I really didn't want to hear. There was three things I didn't want to hear this year. PSR, FFP, and sell to buy. Now, we've avoided FFP and PSR, but sell to buy is back with a bang. So, yeah, I didn't like that. I don't like that. And, I mean, look, maybe some people disagree with me. I don't care. It wouldn't be the first time. But I just don't. If I'm running a football club yet. If I'm Sir Jim Radcliffe and I'm sat in the boardroom and Jason Wilcox says to me, we've got three midfielders lined up. We will get rid of Agate, but it's going to be right at the end of the window.

12:26And it's probably going to be a loan deal. And it probably happens on August the 31st. I'm not going to say, Jason, yes, Jason, we are not buying three midfielders until you get rid of Agate. But I can't get rid of him. Well, we're not buying three midfielders then. well, you're not upsetting me. I still get paid anyway. And I'm actually a Blackburn and Leeds legend, not a Man United player. Well, we're not doing it. It's ridiculous. Like, it's ridiculous. Michael Carrick is an inexperienced coach going into a very difficult season where the jury's out. Let's be honest. The jury's out, right? He needs three midfielders.

13:01You're not going to get one until we get rid of a Garte. Who are you being stubborn for? What point are you trying to prove? you bloody bought a garte you prat so for me it's it's ridiculous i want to talk about this matthews fernandez thing but i've had a couple of super chats coming in uh let me just set this up because i'm i'm out in garden and uh i can read the super chats i just need to open something up here we've had a few uh check out the garden goldbridge is definitely a multi-millionaire it's not that big mate i could be at the end of this garden in it's about 20 meters long all right i'm defending the garden here um defending the garden's pride uh matthew says i hate to say this but i don't feel like we will get three midfielders i think two is what the club is looking at what are your thoughts matthew i'm gonna stay positive here it's not the vitamin d or a or whatever it is please do share the video by the way if you like the garden make sure it's not even liking the garden do you like it me me being outside doing something a little bit different because we could do it for you this week it's going to be nice weather so smash the like and share the video.

14:04Look, I don't like the words sell to buy. And I'll be very, very, very forthright about that. And I have been. If we only buy two midfielders, like many of you, I will lose my shit. I will slate Wilcox, Barada, Ineos, and they will get it big time. Absolutely going to get it. So I'll say that first and foremost. However, I cannot believe that they are that stupid. I cannot believe that they are that self-sabotaging. I cannot believe that I can believe they're incompetent, but I cannot believe that they are that foolish, right? Because Michael Carrick, many of us think it's a risk. It's Ineos' risk.

14:45It's Barada's risk. It's Wilcox's risk. They have made so many mistakes in the last two years. They cannot be wrong on Carrick. If I'm giving Carrick the job, I am backing him way more than I would have backed Tuchel way more than I would have backed a Riola because they've got to get it right. You're telling me they're going to take a huge risk on Michael Carrick and then not getting three midfielders. Well, I'll tell you what, if that's the case, we're in big trouble because Carrick's cheap and only buying two midfielders cheap. And if we're doing everything to be cheap, we're fucked. So I would look at it like that and say, you know, I personally think we'll get Mateus Fernandes, who we're going to talk about next.

15:21And I personally think Ciamini can happen next month so i still think we'll get three midfielders but look i'm not going to tell you 90 sure about that i'm not going to say anything i'm just going to say that's a feeling i have i'm not going to jump on that it's not going to happen but when you hear things like sell to buy and your board is the board that we have i understand why people might say you know it's a little bit concerning uh think of the worst thing that could happen in this window and united would deliver it says ginger red thank you tottenham usa thanks for your super chat i've gotta say tottenham fans you're gonna get some very nice words said about you in a moment you are i i am gonna say it um warning deservely and 90 percent of premier league managers has more pull than carrick and united without the priorities promise of high wages has very little pull as well marlo i've heard a few people saying this and i don't necessarily think that you're wrong um yeah it's um it you're not wrong well what's the pull we don't have a reputable top class manager we don't pay high wages we don't pay big transfer fees we don't buy people over 26 we're slow at deals we've basically just got the man united brand at the moment it's a fair point uh z3 music official says this worthless group of people care more about building a new stadium over building a new squad new windows same crap glenios strikes again and screws the fans over in the process look i don't know about anybody else but as z3 music official says there i don't care about building a new stadium can i just say that i don't care about building a new stadium.

17:01I know we need one, but we need one because these owners let Old Trafford rust. Anfield is an absolutely top level stadium. When we have the Euros or whatever else is happening in England, Anfield will get it. It's smaller than Old Trafford, but they've looked after it. Old Trafford had nothing wrong with it until the Glazers came in and let it rust. I'm not excited about a new stadium. It's not something that I'm going to go, you know, Tottenham's got a lovely stadium, yeah? Everton Stadium's great, right? I don't think Man United's owners have figured this out. I mean, I might be in the minority, but I don't give a shit about a new stadium, right?

17:40And I certainly don't want to sacrifice being a competitor on the pitch for the next decade because the Glazers let Old Trafford rot and now they need to fund something new. They put these press releases out like they're signing fucking your mouth. I do not care about your land acquisition. I do not care about your 100 ,000-seater stadium because it's only going to benefit you. Once that's built, the Red Army, normal season ticket holders, ticket prices are going through the bloody roof. It's going to be corporate, mercenary Manchester United. So I don't actually care. I think knocking Old Trafford down is going to be a very sad day for what fundamentally is a working person's football club.

18:24So all this about acquisition of land and everything like that, I do not care about it. I don't care. They could open it tomorrow and I'd go, that looks nice. I don't want to wait 10 bloody years for it. And I don't want United on the pitch being ruined by it. But look, we'll have to wait and see. Some people are very excited about it. Emily Derry says all of these briefs about sell to buy, not overpaying, don't give the impression of good planning or good practice. It says we don't care. We aren't competitive. We aren't ambitious and we are we are we are gettable. does emily derry well i want to come back to that emily emily because i think it there's something about that about the fernandez deal that that sort of exposes something we're heading towards 10 000 live people watching make sure you smash the like on the video if your like has been outside um it's lovely weather in the uk this week by the way uh and and to all those idiots this is not football related you know what they do in the uk you know if you're going to get a few days hot when they put the weather on they make the country red like oh my god there's a heat wave and they make it red, right?

19:24In the 70s, we had about three weeks of scintillatingly hot weather, droughts, everything. It's just hot. It's the summer. Hydrate yourself. Keep your curtains closed to stop the heat coming in and have a barbie. Lee says, we will sign no more than four players this summer. Everyone else will be youth and academy players. Carrick won't last the year. thank you very much Lee as well Daniel Thompson's in the chat he says hope all well can we get your dog and squirrel is chasing in charge of United would do a better job they're making Carrick's job impossible before it's even started disgrace thank you very much Daniel and I'm watching you from TV my wife will see that garden and want it I'm operating in United's budget on news the club stress me says Nate thank you very much Nate and also Dan says I wouldn't be surprised if We start the season with Maynou, Edison, Agathe, Fletcher and Collier as our midfielders.

20:21This is to win the league. Rubbish. Well, don't sleep on Fletcher. He's a World Cup star. Not at a minute in the World Cup, I don't think, yeah. But, you know, that'll do. You know, we don't need a midfielder now. We've got Fletcher. We won't bid without player buy-in for Anderson. But we are trying for Fernandes, obviously, without player buy-in. Double standards, Glynios out, says Blameshifter. Show some ambition soon or we won't attract anyone, says Martin. and guess the news is stadium with 25 000 more seats i'm buying six players cheaper than new stadium but what do i know says um okay and also have they spent the budget on the lands as far had probably with andy burnham looking likely to become the new pm i expect the owners to focus to ship completely to the new stadium that's all they're there for says only andy forever yes okay well i want to talk about fernandez now um look emily derry makes a great point there um what have we been doing for the last 12 months um you know i think i think as united fans all we actually want is the days of sir alex ferguson where he's almost like your adopted dad or granddad you trust him he makes mistakes you question his team selections but you trust the guy because he's obsessed with winning.

21:36He's not obsessed with financials. He's not obsessed with building stadiums. He's obsessed with winning. He's a football manager and he wants to win. And when he doesn't win, he shows you that publicly in post-match interviews. He's obsessed with Man United being the best. That's all he cares about. That's all we care about. We just want some leadership that echoes the way we feel. And we haven't had it for 13 years. Let's be real. We haven't. Maybe Mourinho a little bit, but we haven't really had it. That's what we want. We want some leadership, direction and planning. We know that that midfield is huge.

22:10This is not about being spoiled fans saying we want Jamal or we want Harry Kane or, you know, we want Valverde or Bellingham. We just want three decent midfielders. We have had to sacrifice a lot as Man United fans over the years. we are not asking for Kimmich, Jude Bellingham and Betinha. We're basically asking for three decent midfielders. Edison, Mateus Fernandes, Chiamini. Edison, Alex Scott, Tonali. We're literally not even asking for what we should be getting. They're very, very best. And they still don't seem to be able to manage that. And I think that is the frustration in the fan base.

22:51And it's also the fact that, as Emily says, we've known this for 12 months. We've known Casemiro was going because we wanted him gone. It wasn't like Casemiro was iffy and we were trying to keep him. We wanted him gone. So we knew Casemiro was gone and we knew we needed three midfielders. And actually, they were trying to sell Mainu at one point. So we probably needed four. Let's not forget the club nearly sold Mainu. So the reality is we've always needed three midfielders. what was the plan? What was the plan? Elliot Anderson you never even bid for but you spent all season saying he was a priority.

23:26Tonali in the March international break apparently you were after him but then straight after it is too expensive. And then on top of that you've got Fernandes who to be honest with you I don't think he's a superstar. I think he's got potential but I don't think he's a superstar. And we're in a bidding war with Spurs. what about, what have we been doing for 12 months? Because I would have expected in March, if Mateus Fernandes was the player that we wanted, these are the terms, we want you, let's get it done quickly. We walk into the window, we clearly haven't done any of these things. We clearly haven't got that deal lined up.

24:06That should have been, as soon as the season over, you've been relegated, let's get the deal done. For some reason, we're walking into this transfer window and we're sort of like going, Ooh, we're monitoring that. It's like we're back in Tesco walking up and down the aisles without a shopping list. We're like, ooh, that looks good. Oh, no, they want it. Let them have it. Ooh, no one's looking at that. Oh, someone's coming. Quick, buy it. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Quick, buy it. Spurs are walking up the alleyway. Get it quickly. It's on offer. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, no, no. Too late.

24:40I don't know what we've been doing for 12 months around this midfield. because we're definitely in a situation with Fernandes now. When you listen to that Romano update this morning, if you haven't heard it or you didn't watch the morning show, what he basically said is, and we've done personal terms, right? We've done personal terms. Spurs are working on personal terms, but the indication is he would be open to moving to Spurs. Well, we better hope that's bullshit, because what Romano also said is it could come down to who goes to West Ham first with an offer they accept. well I'm sorry I think that'll be Spurs I mean I don't think I've misinterpreted this I've been doing it for bloody years he basically said it could come down to who goes who goes to West Ham first with an offer they want to accept well Spurs will do it Spurs will factually do it or will have to do it and then we'll overpay so I'm sort of like our only play here is that Mateus Fernandes says, I don't want to go to Spurs.

25:47And that's sort of what I think is going to happen. Because if he genuinely is open to going to Spurs, they'll outbid us. They will. They'll outbid. I can't see us getting that deal done if he agrees to go to Spurs. And what I mean by that is, I've seen it before where a player will go, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, I'm happy to go to any one of you. It just depends what you offer the club. I don't want the club to get screwed over. I'm happy with all three of these projects and go to the club. Let's see what you can do. That has happened before. And that's not mercenary. That's just saying, I like your project.

26:27I like your project. I like your project. I'm not going to choose because I owe it to the club that they get the best deal for me. And I've seen this happen loads of times. so what happens then is Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal go to the club and they all offer 70, 60, 80 they take the 80 offer and the player's happy to go there so that can happen we don't like that happening we like the player to go to the club that they've, you know I mean what we want them to do basically is quite mercenary we want the player what we want Mateus Fernandes to do is say I know Spurs are going to offer 75 I'm not going to Spurs I'm only going to Man United and I'm going to sit here until you expect it you accept their lower offer you basically get the player to shit on the club that they've come through at and that's our play so look we're going to have to wait and see I still think we'll get Mateus Fernandes but it gets very interesting if Mateus Fernandes is open to going to Spurs and also let me just say I was very derogatory about Spurs we all are but at the end of the day if you walk around wearing clown shoes and clown hair and clown makeup you're a clown and spurs have done that for a very long time if they take those shoes off and they take the the wig off and they wash the makeup off and they look like brad pitt well suddenly things are looking good um and look we'll have to wait and see what spurs do but if they do get Tenali and they do get Mateus Fernandes and they do start doing well next year and they are in the Champions League in a year they might be in a better position than us they might be I mean this morning there was talk of Rashford now I actually think Rashford at Spurs is a very intelligent move I don't know whether Rashford want to do it um I think it's I do I think it'd be a very good move for Spurs I think it's an ambitious move as well I just don't think Rashford would want to do it but look their ambition is better than ours at this moment in time isn't it And yeah, but look, in relation to Mateus Fernandes, I still believe we will get him.

28:36I still don't really believe Spurs will go for Tonali and him. And I still don't really believe he chooses over Spurs. So I still think that as frustrating as it is, and you can question our morals on this one. It's still up there, Jason. I think what's going to happen is we're just going to rely on Mateus Fernandes wanting to come to Man United and therefore just sit there like Jason, like my dog, looking at West Ham going, we're not going to blink. And it's going to come down to West Ham going, OK, we'll take a low price. I think that's what's going to happen. it would get very interesting and i do not want this to happen but it would get very interesting if matthews fernandez said i want to go to man united and i want to go to spurs it's down to whoever puts the better offer on the table for west ham because then we've either got to pay up or get bid outbid i also think as well and and this this scares me slightly when you think about buying two midfielders or walking away from anderson and diamante and tonali and potentially Mateus Fernandes, let's pretend that happens.

29:51What worries me about that is, is that I don't know that anybody at United have actually figured out how lucky they are. I actually think they think they could go into the season next year with Edison, Fernandes and Fletcher and Maynou and win the league. You know, listening back to that Andy Mitton, Barada interview, I genuinely think Barada thinks we're not far off from winning the league. And I genuinely think they think those results from January to May are sustainable. I think they're not sustainable. I think they're brilliant results, but I do not think they're sustainable. The scary thing is, I think they think they are.

30:25And how long are we going to get away with that? How long into next season could we do what we did at the end of last season? I think we can win the first six games no matter what. I don't think we need to sign anyone. I think when you look at the first six games, if we just did exactly the same thing with Maguire and Martinez and Bruno and Maynou and, you know, Edison instead of Casemiro, I still think we could win our first six games, but it's not sustainable long term. It's about how long you get away with that. And I think United think it's a long term sustainable plan. I really do. If we're not going to get a third midfielder, we should forget about Fernandes and get Chiumini, says AJ.

31:06Well, look, the thing about Chiumini is obviously i've said that i think united might do something there but let's not forget he breaks one of the parameters he's already on over 200 grand a week so you know that would be a potential issue why is the most popular club going for what was that i'll come back to that arch says despite the fact i've got a bit of a breeze today despite the fact that fernandez deals looks hijacked we still need to get a tonali or a chumini that is a must okay with edison and hall and bergbell I don't know why Hall's back being mentioned again, Arch. I genuinely do not think Hall will be coming to United.

31:47That's my feeling about it. I bloody love it, but I don't think he will. Why is the most popular club going for options four or five, says Sandy. Denise says, club said Anderson, hoping Forrest would get relegated, then Fernandes hoping the same. cheap deals but plan failed as both now too expensive for them i you know what i i want to believe we're not as incompetent as we all think i don't this summer and i'm sure it comes across i'm that in previous summers i'd have been two-footed in on this they're bloody useless this is you know i told you i told you about any us i've told you about wilcox i've told you about Burrata, they're bloody useless.

32:31I'm holding off from doing that for as long as I will do it, but I'm holding off in doing it for as long as possible because I have to believe picking Carrick, they're not so stupid to think that he can do it on a budget. The minute they went with Carrick was the minute I thought they've got to invest in him. Having said that, I've just remembered when they appointed Amrim, I was excited because I thought they've got to spend half a billion. We don't have players to play his system. We've got to spend half a billion and we didn't. So I don't know what I'm talking about really, but I still hold on to hope that they're not as incompetent as we think we are and that they can bring better players in quickly.

33:11Emily Derry says Spurs know exactly how much to bid to blow us out the water because stupidly we have essentially broadcast our financial limits to the entire footballing world. Anyone with 81 million can gazump us, says Emily. Exactly, exactly, Emily. and this has been said before on this channel i think i know the parameters all clubs have parameters by by the way all clubs have unwritten rules about what they won't do the problem is i think all of ours are very easy to to figure out um and also as well i mean in the us wanted michael elise do you know why we didn't get michael elise right Michael Alise may well be a Man United player if we had Qatar in charge.

33:56The reason we didn't get Michael Alise was because Bayern Munich went in early and high. That's basically it. United really wanted Michael Alise, and we can't do anything with that. I still see pro, Glazer, Ineos, whatever you want to call them. I still see them going, remember, Ineos wanted Michael Alise. And I feel like going, well, they didn't get it. it's like waking up on christmas morning and your parents saying i know you've got a pair of socks but we really wanted to get you a ps5 oh don't worry about it don't fucking worry about it then i'll play with your imaginary ps5 that you wanted to get me you didn't get me one did you you got me socks you failed you used you're rubbish yeah so um

34:49past trauma um anyway um why didn't they get it me but the point it wasn't to pay a ps5 it was an amiga um and i didn't get socks i got a fucking tape recorder i mean what are you supposed to do on christmas morning with a tape recorder oh listen to the radio um anyway that's not that's not for now um the the problem is is the parameters that are in play now michael alise was a player that we really wanted to get. We didn't get him because we didn't go for him quick enough and we didn't go for him financially enough. So Michael Alisse ends up going to buy Munich. This is what I'm talking about.

35:30Look at Michael Alisse now. There's talk of Real Madrid spending£200 million on him. One of the best players in the world. United could have got him. And why didn't we get him? Ineos had literally just bought the club. you'd think, well, I didn't buy all of the club, but you'd have thought, Ineos, right? We've just come into the club. We've just got into bed with the Glazers. There's a lot of uncertainty and a lack of trust about who we are. Get a Lissé. Imagine if they got a Lissé as their first signing. We'd all go, wow, ambition. They didn't do it, right? Here we are two years later. This year's a Lissé is Diamande.

36:07No, not doing that. This year's a Lissé is Tonali. No, not doing that. this year's Elise is Anderson. Nah, not doing that. There's a running theme here. And look, I don't think we ever had a chance of getting Harry Kane. Oh, United wanted Harry Kane, you know. We didn't bloody get him, did we? Best striker in the world at the moment. Didn't get him. Didn't want to pay the money. So we are, you know, when people say, well, Diamande might flop, Anderson might flop. It doesn't matter because this is the way we deal with transfers. us we didn't go for elise because we didn't want to pay for it we didn't go for harry kane because we didn't want to pay for it they would have been absolute sure things two years on if we had elise and kane imagine where we'd be we didn't do it and we're not doing it now and the same thing's going to happen we're going to keep missing out on players that could make us great um we have also known that until glazes fuck off our club will never have consistency and will always remain from top board to relegation.

37:07Torture, says Kosta. Glinias is basically Starmer's Labour Party, says Callum. Let's not get political. How are you, Mark? Says Andy. I'll tell you what, I'm absolutely loving this breeze outside, but undercover. I'm in the shade. It's lovely. Best community going. Thanks for all the great content, says Dave. Well, thank you for being part of it, Dave. I know we as a fan base want Fernandes, but I think buying him more than we did Pogba will hurt the player when he doesn't perform at the level with this fan base this night. It'd be under immense pressure, mate. I've never really thought about it, but he would be under immense pressure, Mateus Fernandes, because he's basically our marquee signing.

37:43And I remember saying this back in May, Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3. Mateus Fernandes is the Tier 2 with a marquee signing taking the pressure. Absolutely perfect. Coming in as the marquee signing, Young, you know, we don't develop players either. It'd have to be the first player that we bought, Young, that delivers. Have they spent the budget on the land, says Fahid? I don't know. I don't know, mate. Patrick Lynch says, what these prices do as well is forces us to pay anyway. Spurs buy Fernandes for 80 million plus. That becomes the market value. Any centre midfielder we want will be measured against that value.

38:17Happened with Cunha and Mbemos, is Patrick. Well, I know. I know. And I sort of, I sort of, again, pose the question, Patrick and everybody else. 12 months we've known that we needed to buy midfielders. And I go back to that summer where Jurgen Klopp bought four in one summer and rebuilt his midfield. Endo, McAllister, Gravenberg and Sir Bosley, he rebuilt a midfielder in one summer. Guarantee you Liverpool had that planned out before May. Here we are approaching the end of June and as Patrick says, the market value of midfielders is going up. So whatever our budget, remember in April it was put out there that the midfield budget is 150.

39:02Yeah, that was in April. the prices have gone up now. You're going to need 200. Whatever you were paying 150 on in April, you're going to have to pay 175, 200 on now because you messed up. You can't walk into a transfer window not knowing what you're doing. You have to hit it early to get the prices early. If you buy your midfielder early in the window, you won't be impacted by what Patrick's talking about, which is inflation of the market. but we're so predictable aren't we we're just sat there again watching the world go by Matti says would you take Bergvold, Edison and Ciamini or three midfielders at this point and I don't want to say it but at this point I'm very much of the opinion that if we get three midfielders as long as one of them's not for labour I'd be pretty happy I believe Ennice is tonali level at 60 what do you think about that i like in mecha basal obviously i'm very fortunate that we have the bundesliga access and i'm as part of having bundesliga live football um i have access to the back system to and i'm sure the premier league has it and the league have it we have access to ridiculous amounts of data from previous seasons this season clips highlights it's amazing you can imagine the bundles league it's very efficient um so every week you have access to this database where you can there's player profiles there's there's highlights there's extended highlights so i'll probably watch about three hours a week of stuff um and there's not many players in the bundles league that i don't know about which is why you know japan's um i I want to call him Sane.

40:49It's not Sane. What's his name? Sano. Brilliant player. That's why I know about people like Diamande. And Meech is a very good midfielder. Very good midfielder. And Bayern Munich, sorry, Borussia Dortmund are the second best team in Germany. Real Madrid are looking at him. He is a good player physically. He's a really good player. I mean, I wish we'd got him instead of Ederson and then get Fernandes and Germini. i don't know whether you can have edison and and mecha i don't know but look if it's if and if we're buying two midfielders and then it's only two or it's a meter i definitely would do that yeah um i thank you very much uh we're not we united not very good in the 80s says rupert wouldn't win the league in the 80s but um it was a different world mate and i don't think the club was being run like this despite the fact that fernandez deals uh done that from arch as well okay um i um i could talk and talk and talk it's a lovely lovely show today and um it's very refreshing being out here with you all as well so um hopefully you've enjoyed the video uh i'm not finished yet i'm just saying i could talk and talk and talk but uh it's it's really actually i could just do a live stream all day from here we just don't get the weather um but no i thoroughly enjoyed it um i needed the vent really just frustrated but look i still believe we'll get three midfielders but i also am aware of the warning signs which i think we need to be i prefer scott says nabim but i will be mad if the club beside fernandez is the guy and walk out because they think he's expensive and lose a race to fucking spurs yeah well look um i am oh yes there is an eight o 'clock show tonight i'm on it eight o 'clock show tonight will i in the studio um six 6 o 'clock, it's Ranić against Messi, Argentina, Austria on that football.

42:4210 o 'clock, it's France. And then 1 a.m., I'm doing Norway against Senegal. So I've got three watch-alongs today on that football, and we've got an 8 o 'clock show. So, yeah, lots to get our teeth into. I have to answer this question before I go. Somebody said, hand on heart, is Fernandes signing for Manchester United? I cannot give you that answer. I'm not ducking it. I cannot give you that answer. What I will say is I think we will sign him. I think we've been down this road so many times. Even Mberno was a little bit like it. We take so long on deals. There's naturally always a period of time where we think it's going to go wrong and then we get it done.

43:27And in some ways, I think United do use that to their advantage. I think they almost like a deal to go like this so that when they get it done, they can go hey here we are so i still i think we've been down this road a lot of times where we think of you i mean i remember i remember this happening with pogba as well we thought we got pogba and it took weeks and then we were like it's going to fall through and then there was talk of real madrid and how we got it so i do think we will get mateos fernandez it's a very it's a very familiar long drawn out transfer that we do all the time so i i do think we will get him i cannot see a world where we lose to Spurs.

44:02And I think the Champions League is a big, big plus. And I think Bruno Fernandes is a big, big plus. If we weren't in the Champions League and Bruno had left, maybe I'd be a little bit more worried, but I genuinely think we'll get the deal done. But having taken the piss out of them, and they deserve to have the piss taken out of them. I know loads of Spurs fans, and they accept that their club's been run badly. They're just hoping that this is a new Spurs. If it is, I'll applaud their ambition because it's better than ours but i do think we'll get matthews fernandez and i do think we'll get another midfielder but i can't lie and ignore the fact that it wouldn't surprise me if united got matthews and then when we don't we don't need another midfielder we've got fletcher you know and i'd be like ederson fletcher maynew and matthews fernandez would be terrifying as a midfield for next season if we're being completely honest um but no i think we will get him some sources are saying Diamande to Liverpool is done and you know what that's that's something not to ignore as well it really does annoy me that Elliot Anderson's going to sign for City because they're a Premier League club it really does annoy me that Diamande is going to sign for Liverpool because they're a rival as well like these are players that take United to the next level and our rivals are getting them and it's almost like it's almost like playing snakes and ladders isn't it boy boy where's that you're going come here just because you've heard someone barking jason come on up you're going to say like come on um yeah it's almost like if you're playing snakes and ladders um and yeah you're bothered about the barking aren't you that's why you're doing the that yawn just means let me go i'm not stupid um it's almost like if you're playing snakes and ladders.

46:05If we keep throwing a two, we're only going to go so far. And if Liverpool and Man City and Arsenal keep throwing a five and a six, they're going to go ahead, aren't they? What we're basically hoping is that when they throw in a five and a six, they land on a snake and they fall down. And what we're hoping is when we throw a two or a three, we hit a ladder and we go up. But nine times out of 10, if they keep throwing a five and a six and we keep throwing a two and a three, they will win the race. There might be the occasional slip down a snake and there might be the occasional ladder for us. But over the long term, if they keep throwing a five and a six and we keep throwing a two and a three, they're going to win.

46:48What that means is if they keep signing plan A and B and we keep signing D and E, it's the same as the two and the three and the five and the six. And that's my concern is that consistently we're shopping at a lower level than everybody else. And you can take it back to Alise. Enios wanted Alise, but they didn't really because they wouldn't pay. Man United want a Harry Kane, but they didn't really because they didn't want to pay. And those two players two years ago, where would we be today? We've already had the proof. Some people are so naive, they're thinking, well, maybe Diamande won't work.

47:21Maybe Anderson won't work. We've already missed out on those types of players before because Enios won't pay and we'll keep doing it. I'm back with you at eight o 'clock. Thank you so much for tuning in today. I hope you've enjoyed us being outside hopefully we can do some more of these this week it's been great fun and I tell you what whenever I do it outside as well it's so much better for my mental health we seem to get a lot more off our chest and stuff so I think I've just seen the dog in the next garden oh god it's gonna kick off gonna kick off anyway great everyone thank you so much Keel says hand on heart is the Labour joining United what a way to end the show mate I said in January the Labour will sign for United I will laugh my head off if we sign him I think he is such a risk I just don't know what we'd be doing doing that and I'd love to know what we'd pay for him as well imagine buying a player that's been shit all season who's a massive risk and then spending 70 million on him that's the scary part surely we won't do it but I just have a feeling anyway thanks everyone for watching I'll speak to you on a little bit actually I'm not back on here next am I I'm on at 6 o 'clock on that's football Argentina against Rangnick's Austria so I'll see you there take care Thank you.