444: United's INCREDIBLE Transfer Message! Fernandes, Scott, Tonali, Kone

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1:28the menu we had the money for. So what's going on there? We've also got an article in The Athletic that's dropped the deal sheet. Lots of stuff in there about, you know, Man United expecting competition for transfers. We're talking to Alex Scott. We're interested still in Wharton, Belaba. Also want to talk about Manu Kone as well. Spurs still very much in the race for Fernandes. Also an interesting striker story as well. A striker that's performing in the World Cup that could be perfect for Man United and he's looking for a move this summer transfer window. Would you take Balogun of Monaco and the USA?

2:04Lots of stories about that. And he is looking for a move. 24 years of age, two years left on his contract. Would he be a good alternative to Sesco? We'll talk about that as well. But look, I want to delve into some things that came in on yesterday's show. Sorry, overnight. And I think that really interesting what Ben Jacobs said about Man United effectively telling us to stay calm. And you know what? I do find it hard to stay calm when I'm reading an article this morning about how Man City are looking at Tonali and Anderson. And I realise they're not Real Madrid or Barcelona in a different league.

2:46they are actually just down the road from us playing in the same league as us and they're buying Tonali and Anderson for their midfield or trying to and we have Edison. I find it madness, to be honest with you, and I would love one of these glazer rimmers to explain to us why we should stay calm. I'd love Omar Barada to explain why we should stay calm because stay calm, you know, it's a little bit like, you know, you're trying to climb on a boat and a shark's chewing your bloody legs off and the person pulling you up is saying, I just need a breather. Just stay calm for a minute. I'm losing my bloody legs.

3:24I'm legless. It's bloody painful. Pull me out. I can't. Just stay calm. It's not got to your knob yet. No, but it bloody will do. I'm losing a lot of blood, mate. I'm losing a bloody lot of blood. So stay calm my ass. I actually don't think staying calm is going to work with people. And also in the UK, it's very bloody hot at the moment. So we're not going to stay calm. But stay calm doesn't work. Emily Derry said it last night. It's the same strategy all the time. It is the same strategy all the time, whereby we talk about an exciting window, hit late June, not doing it, and we get the same old stuff.

4:06Well, the new financial year doesn't start till July. the official transfer window has only been open for a week and um you know there's no need to panic yeah and you sort of like go i would have listened to that the first time i might listen to it the second time the third time i've been getting a little bit dubious we're probably on about the ninth time they've done this to us in june oh we're gonna we're gonna you know we're interested in this player interested in that player you know we're gonna have an amazing summer have you bought the tickets yet yeah we're gonna have a great summer of all the season tickets sold out.

4:38Yeah, great summer. What about the new kit? It's still so well. Yeah, we're going to get marquee signings. We're going to win the league next year. There's an away kit coming out. Keep going. Yeah, it's going to get really good. Right, we've sold loads, have we? Look, it's a challenging window. All the season tickets are sold and we've got record sales on the new kit. It's a challenging window. Stay calm. You know, FFP. I think we all know what that means. PSR. Yeah, stadium to build. it's difficult so look I think it's I think it's it's a relevant thing to say and it's something that I think that you know frustrates a lot of people but look let's delve into it because it's all right me moaning because I am moaning let's talk about what we're moaning about here because there's a few things so first of all Ben Jacobs last night actually put a post out replying to somebody that had misquoted him about Fernandes And what he said is, let's see what happens if West Ham get the bidding war they want or if it falls away.

5:44Talks are still ongoing with Manchester United, but I sense United prefer to put these types of deals onto the next financial year, meaning the window won't really get going until July. And you sort of like go, what? And that's legitimately from Ben Jacobs last night. It came in at about midnight last night. Let's see if West Ham get the bidding war they want. If it doesn't, talks are still ongoing anyway. And I sense United prefer to do a deal like this in the next financial year, meaning the window won't really get going until July. And again, I'm sort of sat here going, wait a minute, though.

6:26I mean, United haven't told us that. United haven't put that out there. They've been more than happy for us to think a deal is going to happen tomorrow. And yes, July is next week, tick short, snaps. But July is also in five weeks as well. It doesn't mean because July starts, well, it's not even a week away, mate, actually. It's a week and a half away. But it doesn't mean because July starts in a week and a half, we're going to sign Fernandez on the 1st of July. I just think this stay calm thing is a little bit narrow. It's a little bit weak. It's fundamentally quite flawed because as we're staying calm and taking our time and doing deals when we prefer to do them, there's an expose there.

7:09You bid for Semenya in December. That would have cost you 65 million quid. Where's that money gone? That 65 million pounds was there. You obviously had that money in this financial year and you've not spent any of it because Edison's next financial year and now Fernandez's next financial year. So what you're telling me is we're so financially comfortable now that we have got money to spend this year, but we're not going to bother. We're going to lump it into next year because we're so bloody wealthy. Well, we know that's not true. So why have we not figured out that we had money from Semenu to spending this financial year, which we haven't spent, but we're not going to spend, we're going to push it into July.

7:47I thought that was the whole point of this June month, was to actually get something done before June the 30th and close a deal in this financial year like we would have done for Semenyu to spread the cost. Apparently not. Apparently not. So that's a little bit confusing in itself. But also, it's all right saying you like to do these deals in July. I think the big mic drop here is 12 months knowing we need to rebuild a midfield, 12 months needing a midfield, but ultimately we've got nothing planned in July. So I'm sort of looking at it and I'm going, sorry we're planning to do stuff in July and I'm sort of looking at it going we need three midfielders we've known for 12 months we need three midfielders we need to replace Casemiro and the message is stay calm we like to do these things in July and I'm sort of like you need to do two more things in July in fact you probably need to do about five things in July and they need to be major things and it's a very competitive market and what happens if you don't get what you want in July?

8:58Where are we then? The prices are going up for everybody. I mean, look, the Alex Scott update is we like Alex Scott, but the price is difficult because it's a lot more than Man United would have thought and look, I'll put my hands up. I would have thought Alex Scott, two years left on his contract, under£60 million. He's had a decent season and a half for Bournemouth, who are a decent Premier League side, but£70 million with two years left on his contract. Are you having a laugh? But that's the sort of prices that are happening. And I know that's the wrong price. You know it's the wrong price.

9:31Bournemouth know it's the wrong price. But the market's being dictated by the inflated midfield market, where Elliot Anderson is probably going to go for£110 million or more. Mateus Fernandes is probably going to go for£70 million or more. Tenale is going to probably go for about£90 million with add-ons. So Bournemouth are going to go, we want£70 million. So it's all right going, we like to do deals in July. and stay calm. But fundamentally, it would have been better for us to do deals in early June. It would have been better. You know what I mean? It's like walking into a shop and it's a busy shop and there's a limited amount of stock and the shop owner puts their prices up.

10:11What are you going to do? That's not fair. You need to buy the stuff. If we'd got into the shop early before the queues and got what we wanted, we could have got in, got out, saved some money and also been in a much better situation. So I do question the negotiation tactics of Manchester United when they desperately need three midfielders and they're sat there going, we like to do deals in July, watching the prices of everybody we want go up. Because if we've got£150 million to spend on three midfielders, but prices go up by 20, 30%, you might only get two. And that worries me because there is a lot of talk of only buying two midfielders.

10:46We know this football club's a business and if they've set and I guarantee they have if they've set a limit on what they want to spend and they thought that limit was going to get them five or six players and actually it's only going to get them three or four we'll only get three or four I don't think there's anybody in this chat or anybody in this fan base that thinks if United have set a limit on what they're going to spend to get five or six players and it only gets them three or four they'll only get three or thought because they will stick to their limits. So look, stay calm. Fine. Stay calm.

11:18Do I think we'll get Mateus Fernandes? I still do. Do I think Spurs are a threat? Yes. Do I think this summer transfer window could fall on its arse? Yes. Do I think it will? I still hold hope that it won't, but I don't like the strategy again because as I've said to you before, I do remember the summer where Liverpool bought four midfielders in one summer and it was very, very strategic. It was very on point and you felt they'd been planning it for months united need to get a similar midfield done it doesn't look like we've been planning it for months doesn't look very strategic and looks like we're flying on the seat of our pants a little bit here um and it's interesting actually because as you move to the athletic update about what's going on um essentially um what they're saying about the situation with Mateus Fernandes, and this is coming in from MJ Critchley and Laurie Whitwell as part of the athletic deal sheet they do.

12:18Basically, what it's saying is West Ham's demands of 80 million are expected to be the fundamental sticking points here. United have shown a reluctance to meet that valuation, but if a rival is prepared to move closer to West Ham's price, the old Trafford hierarchy will be left with a big decision to make. United are yet to submit a formal bid for Fernandes, although one is expected. And I think this is the fundamental thing just to spend a couple of minutes on and obviously give us your thoughts. The Mateus Fernandes update is not, I think it will happen, right? There is stuff there. there is certain things that need to happen.

13:02They're out of our control. And this is what I mean about strategic and organised. Strategic and organised would be, in March, we want Mateus Fernandes. Do you want to come to us? Yes. Agent, can we do a deal? Yes. West Ham, we've got a big summer ahead. He wants to come to us. Let's get a deal done. Let's get this done really early in the window, it's better for everybody. Like we did with other players, right? We haven't done that. It feels like we haven't done that. It feels like personal terms were only agreed in June when they could have been done in March. Why weren't they done in March?

13:43Now, look, West Ham were always going to be difficult. But if Mateus Fernandes is saying to West Ham in May, I want to go to Man United, let's get the deal done quickly. It helps us. The personal terms weren't done till June. So we haven't had that. We haven't took control of the situation. And what effectively is happening now is, and everybody's saying this, is that United are sort of out of control of this. They do have the buy-in from the player, but West Ham won 80 million. And if somebody comes in and meets that valuation, United have got a big decision to make. Do they overpay or do they walk away.

14:22Now, what would you do? But my point is, we shouldn't be in this situation in the first place. What we're basically hoping is that Spurs, for whatever reason, back off. And then we can go back to negotiating with West Ham to try and get a cheaper price. Because ultimately, that's the delay, isn't it? It's all right Ben Jacobs saying, Man United like to do these deals in July. but if West Ham were saying it's 60 million today or it's 70 million in July, we'd do the deal today. So I call out bollocks. I call out bullshit. I'm sure Ben Jacobs is being told that, but it's bullshit. It's spin. It's delay tactics.

15:01You telling me if West Ham would do a deal today for 60, we'd go, no, we'd like to do it in July for 70 because that's what they're going to want in July. We'd do it today. So strategically, I just don't think this is a very well-mapped out transfer. And what concerns me about it is I think we will get it done, but I don't think we're in control now. As per what the Athletic are saying, West Ham wants 80. If somebody else, if another club's interested, that price is going to go up because they're going to offer higher and we're going to have to pay it or walk away. If that West Ham or Real Madrid, sorry, if Real Madrid or Spurs or Arsenal aren't interested and it's just us, we can carry on for a few weeks more.

15:41So in a way, it depends whether you're a football fan or an accountant. Now, some of you are accountants. I don't know why you've fallen for it. I think I actually do think and I'll say it again. I hope Spurs bid 75 because we'll get resolution on this deal. We'll either walk away or we'll do it. Overpay or walk away. I actually want that to happen because I think we've got lots more things that need to do. Imagine if Spurs back off. A Man United go, oh, yeah, West Ham, we've got you where we want you now. It's not like West Ham are going to go, oh, please, we'll take 60. There'll still be negotiations for weeks.

16:22I actually think if there is a competitor, we'll either miss out or we'll have to pay up. And I do think speed is of the essence. and it's not like we want this player. So conclusion of the player, I would want that to happen very quickly. It also says competition from Premier League rivals and clubs across Europe is to be expected in any transfer window and given the markets United are shopping in, it does not have to be an obstacle. Even at low points after poor seasons, United have demonstrated they can still have considerable pulling power. The 15th place Premier League finish in 24-25 and failure to qualify for Europe did not dissuade Mbomo or Sesco from joining despite interest from elsewhere.

17:05The summer prior, United saw off competition from Real Madrid to complete the signing the 62 million euro signing. Oh my God, that makes me cringe now. 62 million euro signing of Lenny Oro. Maybe we overpaid. Personal terms between... I didn't... I thought it was 50 million euros. Personal terms between... It's 50... It's more than 50 million pounds, isn't it? Personal terms between United and Fernandes are not expected to be an issue. Yet even if Old Trafford is a player's preference, competition for their signature can have the obvious consequence of driving up and costing Man United more money.

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18:19United Stand: Learn more and find out your offer at americanexpress.com slash explore dash platinum. Terms apply. West Ham demands may need to be met by Manchester United. Look, I want to make it very, very clear as well. I would overpay. I would overpay. I'll make that very, very clear. I would overpay to get this deal done. I do not want Man United walking away. And some of you might walk away, but I absolutely would overpay because I feel like if we don't do that, then where do we go next? We're moving down the list. I feel like Mateus Fernandes as the marquee signing is probably already option C or D. I've got no problem overpaying.

19:11I think some of you do, some of our fans do. I think this is a player that we clearly want. And I call it the Perisic factor. Mourinho really wanted Perisic that summer before he was sacked it was 45 million United offered 40 and they wouldn't go to 45 and we walked away and we didn't buy a winger and I sort of looked at it and I went we've walked away from a player our manager really wants because of 5 million quid because the club won't overpay Mourinho was sacked by Christmas Perisic was a brilliant player I just think if you know you want a player

19:59overpay I mean I wouldn't like you know I wouldn't give him half a million pounds a week and I wouldn't pay 90 million pounds for him but I reckon a deal can be done for 70 75 it means for me he's not worth more than 55 you could argue he's not worth more than 50 but I I would overpaid to get that deal done. United hate doing it though. They absolutely hate doing it. Somebody's just said there's an update from MUFC MPB. I love that account. You know what? I know it sort of died and came back but it's still breathing. Reminds me of summer past. Real Madrid are open to considering the departure of Chumini.

20:37The player would like to stay but club are contemplating selling him. Man United have expressed strong interest to Chumini's agents and that's coming in from Gianluigi Gianluigi Longiare, who is a journalist of some description. TV della Sport. Sounds Italian. Don't know why an Italian journalist would know about a Real Madrid player moving to Man United. I always am a little bit dubious about that. But then again, Fabrizio, you know, started out like that. Mati Moreto is very good. Di Marzio did have a good summer. To be honest with you, I wouldn't say that's breaking news. That's regurgitation of truth.

21:19Absolutely, I know for a fact that Man United have held talks with Ciomini's agent well before the summer. We know he's a dream signing, as has been confirmed by very credible sources such as Fabrizio Romano. We know that Real Madrid may look to cash in. And actually, we also know that Ciomini would be happy to sign for Man United. So that deal can be done. The barrier, as described last night, is the wage. United have a wage structure now and he is already over that wage structure I believe he's on about 220 at Real Madrid 220 grand a week United don't want to pay people over 200 and if he's leaving Real Madrid to come to Man United he's probably going to want a bit of a pay increase as well because it's going to be one of his last contracts because he's in his mid-20s and it'll be a long contract I think you drop 250 on the table and he takes it will United drop 250 on the table?

22:18I think 250 grand a week for Ciumini at 26 from Real Madrid is good value. It's just, honestly, from what I know and what I've read, that deal can be done if Real Madrid want to sell him. If Real Madrid want to sell him, we can get him. The problem is going to be we've already walked away from deals this year because of money. We walked away from Anderson. We walked away from Tonali. We walked away from Diamande on money. Why would I believe that we wouldn't walk away again? So that's the concern with that. But it's definitely, definitely doable, you know, definitely doable. I want to go back to Alex Scott a little bit like that.

22:58I want to talk about this striker situation, but just a few things from the World Cup, by the way. It's almost a World Cup minute or two, two minutes, right? World Cup roundup then. First of all, Nathaniel Brown, left back. We've been linked to him a lot. He's having a very good World Cup with Germany. He is going to sign for Bayern Munich. They haven't actually agreed a deal yet, but it will happen. So he's not a target for Man United. We'll talk about Balogun in a minute. Manu Kone for France last night. I predicted at 10 o 'clock last night that by midnight, people would be talking about him.

23:31It wasn't quite midnight. It was 2 a.m. because the game got delayed for two hours because of the rain. He was very good, Manu Kone. In fact, he played instead of Chiumini, which is quite ironic because we had talks with Manu Kone last summer about coming to Manchester United and he's a decent player, Manu Kone. And again, he actually is somebody that can do the sixth role very, very well. Look, I'm not scouting Manu Kone after a decent game for France against Iraq. Some people were on social media last night. He's a good player. He's a player that we've scouted before. But if your awakening is watching him play for France last night, that's absolutely fine.

24:14But United have scouted him before. I'd be very comfortable with this going for him. I think he's a decent player. I'd rather have gone for him than Edison, to be honest. And I don't know why we didn't. And I'm not saying Edison won't work, but Manu Kone would have been better, I think. But we're not going to buy Manu Kone and Edison from the Italian league. So that's why it's quiet on him. But we did scout him and we did look at him last summer. and I don't know why we never went back in this summer. Maybe it's price. Maybe it was going to be more expensive, but he's not on the radar at the moment, despite the fact that he would, you know, legitimately have been a good target.

24:51Letoro Martinez played for Argentina last night and was fantastic again. Fantastic. Their defence is so good and he was so good in it. This is great. You know, morons were writing Letoro Martinez off saying we need to get rid of him as well as the lit is injury prone. Look, maybe he is motivated more by playing for Argentina in the World Cup than, you know, games for Man United at the end of the season. I don't know. Maybe he is. Maybe he's right to be like that. But what you can't argue with is that the World Cup is intense and he's playing every minute of every game so far and looks absolutely on it.

25:27Why people would think he's going to struggle with the Premier League next year when he's not struggling with Argentina. I think he's I think he's absolutely fantastic I've just called him Lissandro Martinez you know who I mean the centre back for Manchester United you know the guy we've spoken about multiple times we couldn't give a shit about Inter striker did what what did I I thought I said Lissandro did I call him Latoro I'm operator people are going Lissandro And I'm going, I think I did call him Lissandro. Did I call him Latoro? I'm operating on four hours sleep. You know what? You're a hard audience, you are, because you know exactly who I'm fucking talking about.

26:14You know exactly who I'm talking about. Talk about Pat, the butcher. Anyway, he's looking very good. And that's a good sign for Man United next season. Very, very happy with him. And then finally, just on the World Cup stuff, before I go back to some of the stuff in The Athletic. Balogun. Balogun for the USA. I'll be honest, I wouldn't do this deal because I'm very stubborn. And I haven't really seen him play apart from in the World Cup. So I'd be scouting him on the World Cup, which I hate. However, he has apparently scored a lot of goals for Monaco, which I haven't seen. He is still only 24.

26:58he has only got two years left on his contract and apparently he would like to come back to the Premier League so I put this completely to you as we leave the World Cup update section and go back to what's being said in The Athletic would you sign Balogun as the second striker for Manchester United now look honestly I'd take him over Xerxes if that was the choice Balogun or Xerxes I would do it my reservation is and I won't be a hypocrite is I don't really know much about him beyond some decent performances in the World Cup for the USA. And I refuse to do that. I refuse to do a Karol Paborski.

27:38Oh, he looks good. Let's sign him. I can't do it. So it's a no. I would sign Undav Savage. I would sign Undav from Stuttgart. I think he's too old for us at 29, but I think he'd be perfect as a sort of experienced backup striker. brilliant season for Stuttgart obviously he's done well in the World Cup I would go there but Brobby as well you know Brobby's a good shout and Brobby's not about the World Cup I know he's had a good World Cup but we've seen him at Sunderland as well and you know what how many journalists used Brian Brobby as a reason to stick the knife in on Ten Hag and will they apologise and say they were wrong because Brobby clearly was a good prospect and Ten Hag clearly was right about it and Brobby is an interesting player.

28:27I just think he'd be out of our range price-wise because Sunderland would probably want north of 50 million, which we won't pay. But, you know, Brobby would be an interesting one. What I like about Brobby is his physicality is really difficult to deal with. And my prediction with him is that he will go somewhere and be a real problem because he can deal with very, very good centre-backs because of his physicality. only just 24 as well um i think probably is an interesting one but the price for him will be prohibitive so look there are options in the striker market you know we can't argue about that whether we can get any of them in or not i don't know um why is tonali on the thumbnail says john well well this is this brings us back to where i wanted to go with this so effectively um what we're getting on man united this morning we've spoken about the fernandez situation uh and a couple of others um but effectively in the athletic today it talks about the midfield options for manchester united and and it basically is saying that beyond the um what's going on here this morning why there we go that's fine i've got it now i don't know what it was doing uh there's an update on rashford as well that i need to give you as well uh other than um so this is the athletic Laurie Whitwell, etc.

29:48Other than Mateus Fernandes, Man United have made inquiries around a deal for Alex Scott. Bournemouth are attempting to renew that contract, which is two years left to run. Any new deal would include a release clause of 75 million. But remember, he hasn't signed that deal. And let me just say on Alex Scott, he feels like he's a definitive. Well, there's two things to say about Alex Scott. He's either a definitive. backup to Fernandes if that deal falls through and he maybe does sign for Spurs or he's the player that we're going for next and I think that that's something very important to remember like it or not Manchester United are very slow at doing deals so yes Alex Scott could be a player that we're looking at as a backup if we don't get Mateus Fernandes.

30:40But he could also be a player that we're going for after Mateus Fernandes because we can only work on one deal at a time. So definitely do keep your eye on that one. And also remember, Bournemouth may be about to put a release clause of£75 million in his contract if he signs it. But if Alex Scott says, I'm not signing it, I want to leave, Alvarez I mean he's caused some shit But that's nothing to do with United Julian Alvarez Atletico Madrid putting out tweets About how he's not going anywhere And then he does an interview After the Argentina game Saying I want to leave If Alex Scott says I want to leave To Bournemouth And he's got two years left On his contract Then Maybe there'd be a bidding war But Bournemouth would do well To achieve 65 I think Realistically Even though I don't think He's worth any more than 50 This market is crazy So Alex Scott might be one to monitor It might be something that nothing happens with Also goes on to say Elliot Anderson would be United's ideal target But Forrest's demands are considered too great United hold out long-standing interest in Balaba and Wharton Who are among a range of other midfielders being tracked So look, I think that update really is Mateus Fernandes is the player that United are working on And no other but they are very wary that that price could escalate very quickly if Spurs do get to a bid stage.

32:06Alex Scott is someone that they're interested in but nothing is progressing on that at the moment and Wharton and Belaber are long-term targets and Anderson was somebody they wanted but they couldn't afford. So sort of where we've always been, if I'm being completely honest. It does go on to talk about other areas for Manchester United. Somerville is one of several options considered if United decide to strengthen it left wing Alternatively, United could strengthen it left back with Lewis Hall And this is something I want to say as well, right? I don't dispute these updates because I've heard them before But again, it's the 23rd of June There is one week left in June and then it's July, right?

32:49Calendar bridge We've known about this window for months We're very fortunate that Michael came to the Champions League Because if it had gone the other way This summer would have been even more important If last season had been shit So any decent board would have been working on this window For months Yeah? I think about United's situation in early January When the results weren't great When Amarin was still here If I'm on that board I'm like, fucking hell We need to really be ready for the summer and it's almost like they've gone, oh, Carrick's at the wheel, you know, and stopped it because what does that even mean?

33:31You know what I mean? Like, what does that even mean? Fernandes, according to Ben Jacobs, we might wait till the next financial year, which is July. So that could run late into July. Who's the third midfielder? And then on top of that, Somerville's an option if we go for a winger and Lewis Hall's an option if we go for a left back. At what point are we going to figure that out? Can I just ask that question? At what point are we going to figure out whether we're going for a winger or a left back? And should that not have been figured out in March? Because it's about the third update I've heard now where if Man United go for a winger, they might go for Somerville or NJ.

34:10But if they go for a left back, they might go for Lewis Hall. At what point are they going to figure that one out? What is it that's holding you up? what is it that's so you know difficult to figure out whether you're going to go for a left winger or a left back and what football club doesn't know what they're planning to do in late June do you think Man City who've got a new manager as well are sat there going well do we want another striker or do we want another centre back do you think Liverpool are going hmm do we want a Salah replacement or should we go for something nuanced like a right back when we bought Frimpong last year.

34:47It's like, why do we not know what we want to do in late June? Some people very much like these updates. Oh, it's Somerville and Hall. Who's it going to be? Could it be both? Will it be neither? But why don't we know? For me, I'm not on the board right, but it's a left back. Luke Shaw is over 30. He didn't have a very good season and we're doubling his load. we need a left back absolutely need a left back what about a left winger well if I can have both yes but we definitely do need a left back because Dorgoo can play left wing Kunya plays off the left wing and honestly Ahmad or Mbamo could play off the left wing if we wanted to so I would definitely go for a left back but it is concerning that look it's not it's not rant time it's not lose your head time because we're so used to it it would be fake it would be false it would be ridiculous to start screaming and shouting but it's very familiar it's definitely very familiar to be in this position at the end of june with moral crusaders telling us to calm down and be patient because they and i will just say this to every fan who believes in this ownership who was saying calm down it's only early in the window you've literally said this to us for five years and every single one of those windows didn't end up being that great whether it was midfielders that weren't bought or other positions that weren't bought so every time we're in the middle of June and people say the windows just opened the financial years in July stay calm it never does end up being a good window so I think that there is plenty of time you can get Mateus Fernandes you can get Chirmini and we've achieved a decent midfield there you can do those deals.

36:41Absolutely you can. But the noises coming out don't sound very structured. Mateus Fernandes sounds like a deal where if Spurs don't bid, we're okay. But if they do, we're in trouble. Well, that's not in our hands. Chermini is definitely a deal where if Real Madrid sell, we've got to break our wage structure. Well, that doesn't sound massively encouraging. And people like Somerville and Hall sound like we might do it, when we should know whether we want to do it or not. And I can't figure out why we don't know that. Marlow says United have failed for 13 years and Ineos think they can get us back to the top with a wage limit and reduced staff.

37:18What about spending maximum possible amount and get the best possible players? Well, I think in football, that's what you should do, Marlow. At its very core, supporting Manchester United is escapism, isn't it? Whether it's transfer windows or Saturday or Sunday afternoon. It's escapism from reality. It's something that binds us together, that we're passionate about, that can change our emotions. It's fantasy. And at the end of the day, football, we have no control on what's going to happen, but it grips us like a vice. And I don't support Manchester United or watch football because I like the Financial Times.

38:06I watch it because it's fantasy. I loved football as a young age and I love it now. And it's escapism. And escapism should be enjoyment and fantasy and hope. And that's sort of been ripped away from our football club because everything we do is justified on a bank balance of you know it's almost like most of my life as a United fan up until the last 10 years even in the late 80s when we weren't winning the league was about possibility and hope and excitement um and now it's about reality and you know whatever this bullshit is that we're being sold now but you know united was always about the promised land dare to dream and all that risks and and and they've sucked it out of us you know the amount of united fans i see now when when when you say we should be signing a lease say well it's unrealistic look at the debt look at the wages you know we could never afford that i mean when did that happen at what point did that actually become part of our vocabulary as a fan base well i agree with us walking away from elliot anderson he might be perfect but the price is ridiculous i i agree with us not going for i agree with us not being held to ransom by west ham he might be the he might be the player that makes a massive difference for us but if it's five million more than i want to pay i think we should walk away at what point did that become where we are now because it's definitely you know the glazes need applauding really they've turned man united football fans into people that back them on accounts um sunrisers say great comment mark the thing holding them up on left wing or left back is they are still undecided on Dogu's best position, which is funny.

39:44Well, I would hope it's not like that, Sunrisers Army, but you might be right. Solid Blake, thanks for being a member for 40 months. Andre Gomez says, do you think there will be any breakout academy players next season? I know you don't watch academy football, but I'm really excited about JJ Gabriel. It's not that I don't watch academy football. I will watch it occasionally. I know a lot of you do watch it quite religiously. it's just always served a purpose a good purpose for me to have this stance you listen and you hear about young players that are coming through and i'm certainly aware of quite a few and jj has immense talent but for me mctominy and rashford weren't necessarily two players that were being spoken about breaking through into the team others were they never did and they did so the the step up from academy to first team football isn't easy to predict so i'm you know i'm interested in these players but it's only when they start training for the first team and then they start getting minutes that i'll assess their opportunity and chance so look there's quite a few people that might be ready i mean the fletcher brothers have been close um and um i'm sure jj will be involved this year because if he's not he'll be gone next year because he's out of contract.

40:58So we do need to give JJ time this season because of his age. He can go to Barcelona or PSG and we can't stop him next summer. So we've got to do something to make him want to stay at the football club. So I think he will get opportunities. Yeah. Have you seen the rumour Marcus Rashford to Tottenham? Says David. I'm going to talk about Rashford in a moment anyway because there is an update beyond the Tottenham stuff. Sue says big clubs attract top players with high wages and strong investment. United are trying to cut the wage bill and seem reluctant to sign proven quality players Lil says what about Tumini or Fernandes Mark for me Tumini easy easy well both if I play that either or Lil do I only get one midfielder because I need two so for me it should be both we're Manchester United you know Anderson's going to Man City Tonali might be going to Spurs Diamande might be going to Liverpool our rivals are making big signings I'm not playing either or with Chimini or Fernandes.

41:57We actually need both. Looks like it's by cheap for the next two or three seasons so they can build the stadiums as Alex. Yeah, which can I just say how many people are actually on board with that? How many people are actually on board with finishing fourth for the next five, six, seven years to build a new stadium? Because I'm not. We're only building a new stadium because these prats let it rust in the first place. I'm not excited about the new stadium. Some people are. I'm genuinely not up for finishing in a shit position in the league for the next five to ten years to build a stadium that's going to make the Glazers and Ineos rich.

42:38How does that benefit me? As a football fan, how does that benefit me? We've had ten years of United not being near a league title. Why should we have another ten so the Glazers can build something that they shouldn't even need to build to make themselves richer?

42:57I'm not excited about it. If West Ham are being difficult, a big club should be able to do more than one deal at a time and get other positions sorted while negotiating, says John United. Shane, thank you very much for your super chat, John. Shane with the super chat says, Morning, Mark. I can see us getting mugged off as always and ending up with third or fourth pick. Can see us going out early in the Champions League. And Daniel Thompson says, Hi, Mark. Hope you're well. Hope you are too. I agree. we need to be anything but calm as there is so much to do coxie and co need to get off the beach in the office get to work stop messing around with excuses about funds and get some quality players thank you daniel and aaron says best in class only big club in manchester these are big vice gym worst in class and seth says we don't bring in or sell any a couple of months back i said if the board lack ambition players will lose motivation because no more world cup scary season ahead, says Seth.

43:54And Sunrise's Army says, anyone else think West Ham are really nervous right now? Their tactics to attract bidders to spend 80 plus is clearly not working. They could be the famous last words of Sunrise's Army because it only takes a Spurs bid of 75 and suddenly we're overpaying. I think we'll get him. We might have to pay a price

44:30we don't want to pay but I certainly would like to believe that West Ham's tactics of trying to get another bidder in are flawed but it doesn't feel like that if I'm being honest this looks like we've got no plan says Jeff we don't have any midfielders to even have a pre-season training session and Patrick Lynch says stay calm is the kind of message you put out when you know there are legitimate reasons to feel worried and panic once again glenios can't even do pr right and uh tom grant says good morning beautiful people raising a morning brandy with me to 50 months of fantastic support and kindness from this fantastic community cheers tom i don't know whether you're on holiday or whether you're just having a morning brandy but uh sounds uh fantastic so thank you very much for that um there was something i wanted to come back to here um

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45:53Yeah, it was the Rashford thing, wasn't it? So on Marcus Rashford, there was an update this morning. I mean, look, honestly, you know, this is something to certainly consider for a moment. Please do share the video, by the way. We're nearly at 10 ,000 watching again, which is incredible. So thank you very much, everybody, for tuning in. I'll tell you what, somebody just actually said, what about Noosa, Mark? I must just say about Noosa I would bloody love to buy a Norwegian I mean what a gift they have been to the World Cup I didn't go to bed till like four o 'clock this morning Because I was watching Norway Senegal But they're so enjoyable Their fans, their football Yeah their whole attitude I actually like Erling Haaland When he's not in a Man City shirt as well I wish Man United had signed him Because I actually really like Haaland when he's not playing for Man City.

46:47But yeah, I would love us to sign Noosa, but there is absolutely no link to him at all. He is, as Daniel just said there, he's electric, great player. I really do like him, but no link to him at all, unfortunately. So yeah, nothing to add on that. However, just to pick up on what Patrick was saying and a few others as well, this whole PR of stay calm, A lot of governments and businesses will put out, let's stay calm when things are going bad. You know, when you think about the things that have gone on around the UK or other countries. Or remember, was it a week or so ago, that horrible incident in Belfast where that man was attacked in the street.

47:41and then for the next couple of nights, people were out on the streets, not very happy. What did the police and the government of Northern Ireland say? Stay calm. And they're saying stay calm because they know things aren't good. So that's an extreme example of how the words stay calm are utilized. A lot of the time, stay calm is used when things aren't going well. When things are going well, you know on your wedding day when you're marrying your dream girl or boy and it's your speech time, you don't stand up and say to everybody, you're smiling, stay calm because everyone's happy. Stay calm is normally a message that comes out when things aren't good and people are trying to paper over the cracks.

48:30So, look, stay calm, whatever. we need two more midfielders and probably another three players in different positions so we probably need about five signings yeah and we're approaching the end of july which means it can be done but there's not loads of time left to do it and the market price and inflation is going up we also need to we also need to add rashford in there because we can only do one deal at a time so if rashford had gone to barcelona we've got more time we've still got to solve the rashford problem, whether it's talks with Rashford for him to stay or talks with Rashford for him to go.

49:09We're certainly not at a point where Rashford comes back and everyone goes, oh, forget about it. There needs to be some negotiations and talks with Rashford at some point, and that takes up more time of this limited window as it is. Now, what the Athletic are saying is that Man United are not willing to negotiate a second loan spell with Barcelona for Rashford and intend to only listen to permanent offers. Well, that's very, very great Billy Big Bollocks, you know, we're Man United. But as we know, we're Manchester United, Gary, we're Manchester United. Never really works. You know, with Brentford last year, we're Manchester United, we're only paying 55 million.

49:52We paid 65. We're Manchester United, we're only going to give you 60 for Harry Maguire. we paid 80 we're manchester you know we're manchester united doesn't tend to work does it so we're manchester united we're going to get 30 million pounds for rashford i don't know that's going to work what i can see happening is we're going to spend a few weeks going we're manchester united and then at the end we'll end up doing the thing we didn't want to do anyway um which is going to either be bringing him back which we don't really want to do or loaning him which we don't really want to do. But one of those two things I think happens.

50:27I can't see us selling Rashford because we want 25, 30 million pounds and Rashford is entitled to 300 grand a week because he's got two years left on his contract. So you're asking somebody to give Rashford 300 grand a week and Man United 30 million. Well, I don't think there's a club in the world that does that. So this will end up with Rashford coming back or being loaned. But United are sat there at the moment saying they don't want to do either. So they're going to have to back down because the meal ticket's not going to happen. And look, maybe Saudi would do it, but why should Rashford go to Saudi?

50:59So I think with Rashford, we're just going to waste time, really. Elliot says, I've set a new rule for myself this window. Don't be happy or angry until the end, mostly because their PR strategy so far has been extremely weird. Elliot, I think it comes across with myself. I'm quite the same. I don't trust them. I think we've been delivered a load of shit. You know, it frustrates me nine months of being linked to Ellie Anderson and the club just lets it happen and then doesn't do anything. But we can have nine hours of being linked to Romero and the club come out and say it's not true. So we know they can come out and kill a deal, kill a rumour, but they didn't.

51:42So they're playing us. And if you want to play games, then you deserve to get criticised for playing those games. However, on a positive I still do believe that You know, Elliot's right We have to wait until the end of the window To see what we deliver And along the way we can obviously have our opinions But ultimately it will be about Where we are at at the end of August And I still do believe Mateus Fernandes and Chiuamini Are achievable And on top of that I also think they have to be achievable As well Nothing under this Sorry, Nahum, thanks for your super chat that. Carl says, nothing and under the sun, board taking their time, just not acting as the club we should act as.

52:26Players will come in last minute and we will pay the money. Rob Always United says, there's not enough criticism of the board. They procrastinate and are only capable of doing one deal at a time. It's pathetic. I think there is a lot of criticism of the board. I just don't think it changes anything, which is obviously quite tiring. Alon says, do you think they might be looking at the academy as a cost-saving loophole after this window. I'm afraid they will shift our focus and build hype on the youth using terms like United DNA. Trouble is, if you want to go with a Thwaites or a Fletcher or a JJ or a Lacey, we haven't developed a player in years.

53:07And you're going to throw them into a season like this. I think you're setting them up to fail. I think if United think you can throw young players into this, they're having a laugh. so I hope that's not the plan because we haven't developed a young player in ages and this season has gotten no room for movement at all if you're Arsenal and you've got the team they've got you can probably find 45 minutes or a start for Daumann here and there but at United where every result matters I don't know where you do that Nahum says please give my YouTube channel a shout out is it called Nahum? There you go and Jordan Jordan says, funny how United see Chiamini as an elite player and the perfect Casemiro replacement.

53:50So why is he valued£150 ,000 a year cheaper? They frustrate you. Cheers for the work, Marcus, is Jordan. And Marlowe says, United have failed for 13 years and Ineos think they can get us back to the top with a wage limit and reduce that. What about spending? I've done that one, haven't I? But it's absolutely spot on. OK, thank you so much, everybody, for tuning in this morning. Let me tell you about the day ahead because the World Cup is still going on. tonight at six it's ronaldo watch it's bruno watch it's portugal against uzbekistan we're live at six o 'clock on that's football for that we have a two o 'clock show today with mike keegan the journalist very good journalist very good around the finances very good around the stadium and also decent on the transfer stuff as well so that'll be a very interesting show at two o 'clock here as i said portugal at six on that's football england at nine on that's football which means we get our eight o 'clock slot tonight.

54:44So we will be live at eight o 'clock with me pre the England game. So eight o 'clock show as normal, two o 'clock show as normal today on the United stand. Lots to get into. I was up late last night. Thank you, everybody. I actually feel fine. I think because the first week of the World Cup, I did quite a few 2am games in a row. And I think by the end of the week, I was absolutely dead. I haven't done an early game for a few days. So I did the one o 'clock game last night got into bed at about half three was up at half seven to take to school so i've had about four hours sleep but it'll hit me tomorrow i do feel like i feel i absolutely feel all right uh i'm just i'm just gonna go and record something for that's football actually um i'm more concerned about the heat stay cool in the heat everybody um you know uh it's actually funny taking seb to school this morning because i'm like have you got your hats have you has your water been in the freezer all night so it keeps cool all day?

55:41Have they got water at your school? Is water accessible at your school? Have you got your water to take in anyway, but you can also top it up? Have you got your hat? Have you got your sun cream? I've emailed the school to see if they're going to let them out in the sun at any point today, right? We've got a salad for tea. Might get a barbecue on the go. I might go into school at lunchtime and just apply more sun cream to him, okay? when I went to school didn't get a bottle of water probably had my jumper and tie on didn't get sun cream on and our drink was milk that had probably been outside and was basically cream the world's gone mad isn't it and that's a true story like you know that is a true story of the contrast between today sending your kids to school and in the 90s yeah you're not wearing any sun cream get your tie and jumper on You're not taking any water.

56:36You can go out and the teachers were like, you're not staying in at lunchtime either. Get out. We need to smoke and have our dinner. And trust me, the weather wasn't any bloody different. It was still over 30 degrees at times. Thanks everyone for watching. Do stay safe in the sun, though, because on a serious note, I've got a massive scar on my arm where I had a mole that was cancerous and removed. So, yeah, maybe maybe I should have been applying sun cream at school and stuff, but stay safe in the sun wherever you are. As always, stay safe in the sun. Avoid the sun, basically. And that works in two ways.

57:18Take care, everybody. Stay safe. And I'm back with you at eight o 'clock on here. We've got Mike Egan on it, too. Obviously, if anything happens, I'll go live. but I'll tell you what, that is something I'll leave you with as well. I remember summers where I'd be talking to the producers and stuff like that, and I'd be saying, I'm knackered. And it wouldn't be a World Cup year. It would be, we've gone live at like 11 o 'clock at night, three times this week. Or we've gone live outside of the 8, 2 and 10 a.m. show multiple times. How many times have we done that this summer? That says a lot to me.

58:02Like, we're just, we're not doing many shows outside of our normal shows, which shows the lack of activity United are doing. Like, I remember loads of summers where it was all over the place. John says you've just basically done a morning after show. I sort of have. I sort of have. Thank you very much. Stay safe, everyone, and I'll speak to you in a bit. Take care.

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