445: Romano FERNANDES Update! HALL Transfer Setback!

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0:38Big update from Fabrizio Romano around Mateus Fernandes. Also updates coming in from, I think, The Guardian around Somerville. We've also got Lewis Hall, Alex Scott to talk about as well and a few other bits. But look, how are we all feeling this morning? I just want to do something that's not news related and say I've watched Elliot it's Anderson a lot this season. I watched him playing for England yesterday and whilst England weren't that great, I still don't understand why United are walking away from that deal just because of 20 million quid. I actually think he's, you know, in the quest to rebuild our midfield and replace Casemiro, I think he and Tonali stand clear of anything else you could do in this market and I think it's a crying shame that you've got two players that are actually looking to leave Newcastle and Forest, who would be perfect for our midfield as we look to progress this football club and back Michael Carrick and give him a chance.

1:32And we're just not doing it. And I think that's really important. No hyperbole, no overreaction about a transfer window, because I do read those United fans saying, why is everybody getting stressed? It's so early in the window. There's lots to do. It's not about being stressed or frustrated. It's about backing your own football opinion for however many years you've watched the game, how many times you've watched Man United, and having your own judgment like we all do to go, I think United need this to go to here. And I think United should get Anderson or Tonali to go to the next level. And the fact that we're ignoring it, I can deal with the fact if they don't want to leave Newcastle and Forest and you can't get them.

2:10But the fact that they're gettable and we're not going for them, I think for me is, as I say, I think it's a crying shame, a lack of ambition. And I'm not allowing the excuse of, we don't want to pay the money. We're a bloody football club. We should be paying the money. We've paid what it takes in the past to get people like Rooney. We should be paying what it takes to get people like Anderson or Tonali, in my opinion. Anyway, we have got a little bit of a poll going on at the moment. Should United pay 80 million for Fernandes? It's pay or walk away. It's our little quiz. It's our new little quiz.

2:52It's pay or walk away with me, Mark Goldbridge. So should Manchester United pay the 80 to 85 million pounds to get Mateus Fernandes? Or should they walk away? 62 % of you at the moment are saying pay. 38 % of you are saying walk away. I'm saying if we're going to overpay for Mateus Fernandes, why the bloody hell are we not overpaying for Tonali or Anderson? As per my previous point. But look, there is a big Fabrizio Romano update that's come in overnight. Obviously, the World Cup's going on. So football is literally the sport that doesn't sleep at the moment because so many journalists are out there on the other side of the world.

3:31They're writing articles at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 in the morning. So we are getting a lot of information. What I would just say about Fernandes before I give you this update from Romano, because we are in a bidding war. We're in a bidding war, which is the last place Man United want to be. Man United do not want to be in a bidding war. So that's where we are at the moment. What I would say, though, is, and I'm sure you intelligent people have all figured this one out. I think 80 million is the new 50 million and 120 million is the new 100 million. That's how I'm working now because there is no way to me that Alex Scott or Mateus Fernandes are worth 70 to 80 million pounds.

4:20They're 50 to 60. Everybody's price has gone up by 20 million, hasn't it, really? Elliot Anderson should be about 100. He's going to be about 120. Mateus Fernandes should be around 55. He's going to be around 75, 80. So, look, I think we don't dictate how that works. but it is without question what's happening in the window at the moment so there's an update just coming in about Chumini as well from the Athletics Spanish reporter as well Mario Cortana Tocana Real Madrid writer for the Athletic YouTube channel as well Real Madrid would consider offers for Chumini he could be of interest to Manchester United Well, I'm just breaking the Fernandes story to go to this for a moment.

5:14There's a lot of regurgitation in the transfer world at the moment. I saw an article last night while I was doing the England game. I think it was in The Guardian talking about Mateus Fernandes. And I read it. And whilst it was a new update from that outlet, it's a similar update what we've had for two weeks. So, look, it's nice that this Real Madrid athletic correspondent is saying that Real Madrid would consider offers for Chiamini. But we know that. And he is a very credible journalist when it comes to Real Madrid. But we do know that. Like we know United have held preliminary talks with Chiamini's agents back in March.

6:01so we know Real Madrid are open to doing a deal and we know that if Real Madrid want to do a deal Chumini is open to coming to Man United the same question will be asked again as what we're going to update you on Mateus Fernandes the viability of a Chumini deal for me as I said to you a month ago makes this deal technically 50-50 I'm 50-50 on it'll happen or it won't happen I don't know how you put that on a hot-o-meter, but I am 50-50 on it, and I have been for a while because of the information we know. He's open to coming to United, and Real Madrid are open to selling to Manchester United. The problem's going to be this data-driven story that we won't overpay, and we won't overpay on wages.

6:45So Chiumini may be open to coming to Man United for 250 grand a week. Real Madrid may be open to selling to Manchester United for 80 million pounds. We won't do either of those things. We won't pay 80 and we won't give 250 grand a week. So look, many clubs are open to selling players to Man United, but we've got to open the cheque book to pay it. And Mateus Fernandes is open to coming to Manchester United and has been for weeks. We didn't put the bid in and now other people have gone in. We're our own worst enemy. So yeah, Chumini could come to Man United, but so could Fernandes. If we don't write the cheques, we don't get the players.

7:20So we're our own worst enemy at the moment because all these deals... you could say Elliot Anderson is open to coming to Manchester United, or you could say Bournemouth are open to doing a deal with Man United. But if we don't write the checks, we don't get the deals. It's as simple as that. But look, let's go through what we want to talk about here. Obviously, I can come back to Chumy, and there's a few other things to talk about. Lewis Hall, Alex Scott. But I want to give the update from Fabrizio Romano, because this has basically come in in the last few hours. effectively what Fabrizio is saying is that anybody that's been saying a deal is done or close is wrong um over the last few weeks and we know certain people have been doing that um yeah it's not close um he's basically said there's a bidding war and that's what West Ham want um and West Ham don't care who they sell to as long as they get the best price for West Ham so West Ham will sell to the highest bidder.

8:17They don't care if it's Man United, Tottenham, Real Madrid, Dagenham and Redbridge. They don't care. They will sell to the highest bidder because they do know that they need to sell and they do know that they're in the championship. So West Ham have made it very clear that they will sell to the highest bidder. And they've made that very clear to any club that they've spoken to and Mateus Fernandes and his agent. So West Ham ain't messing about. They're not interested in what the player wants or what the agent wants. they can present the offers and they can come to West Ham and say look I want to go here because of Champions League football but West Ham will say that offer isn't as good as another club's offer so what are we going to do so West Ham are just going to push the highest bidder of course the player does have an involvement in this and he may push for Man United because of Champions League football over Spurs who don't have it but ultimately it will come down to West Ham and what they want to accept.

9:12So it could run and run and run. Fabrizio is basically saying that Mantez Fernandes has opened the door to Man United and Tottenham and now it's up to the clubs to come forward with the best financial proposal. He's ending up at the club bringing the best financial proposal to West Ham. This is what Fabrizio Romano said, clear feeling on the Mateus Fernandes deal. As reported, he's ending up at the club bringing the best financial proposal to West Ham. He's opened the doors to both Man United and then Tottenham. Now it's up to the clubs. So look, it's not on the face of it and it could change.

9:54What will happen is if we get him, it will always get painted that he only ever wanted United. So don't for one minute think that if we get him, that won't happen. But we haven't got him yet. So at the moment, there is this bidding war. There is this competition for a player. And, you know, you look at Sesko last year, not dissimilar, we won. So I would expect Man United to win this. But it does fly in the face of everything that we've supposedly said we're going to do. and look, 60 % of you would pay the£80 million to get him, 40 % of you wouldn't. I'd love to know why some of you would pay and why you wouldn't.

10:43Get in the comments and let us know. My stance is this. Is Mateus Fernandes my number one target for the midfield? No. Elliot Anderson was. Tonali was. Chimini is. Bruno Fernandes was. So I had better options. Am I convinced that Mateus Fernandes is going to come into Manchester United and make an instant impact? No, no. I've seen him play for West Ham. I don't think he's going to come into Man United and hit the ground running. I think he's a player that's going to come into Manchester United and need time. And I don't know whether that's what this fan base needs. I think football fans can be very, very simple in the sense that you spend a lot of money on a player.

11:29They better deliver straight away. Well, I don't think he will deliver straight away. I think he will need time. So I'm not even convinced spending that amount of money on that type of player is the right thing to do. For me, he's a£55m player who we might be bidding£20m,£30m more for. That puts immense pressure on the club and the player and the manager before he's even kicked a ball. So there are concerns with this deal from a personal point of view. However, that's me. I'm not sat on the board. I'd do something different. I have to assess what United are doing. And in that boardroom, Mateus Fernandes is the priority.

12:09So write the fucking check. And people will say, you're a hypocrite. That's not what you... No, I'm not on the board. If I was on the board, I wouldn't be pushing this deal. I'd be going, why are we looking to spend£80 million and compete with Spurs for Mateus Fernandes? I can think of four players I'd be going before I'd go for him. We're going for them. That's what I would do. But in reality, this board has spent weeks, apparently months, working on this deal, get it done. Because the data will say he's the right player. And that's where I am with it. You know, we get told about we're following the data.

12:49You know, we're doing this, that and the other. Go and do the deal then. I don't mind Manchester United spending a little bit too much on a player that they think's the right player. Remember last summer, Embermo at£65 million was overpriced. Realistically, we should have been paying£55 or£60. We paid 65. Now, 5 million doesn't sound a lot, but it's still a 10 % increase. So, and I remember saying at the time, if he's the player they want, pay the money to get the price. Because I'd rather get plan A, 10, 15 million pounds more expensive than get plan B for the right price. Get plan A. So I think that we've got to pay the price for Mateus Fernandes because we've made it very obvious that he's the right player.

13:34and it's going to be hard enough this season watching Elliot Anderson play for Man City, watching Diamande play for Liverpool, watching Tonali play wherever he's going to play and then seeing Mateus Fernandes play for Spurs. I just don't want that season next season. I didn't want Michael Carrick to get the job, but now he's got the job, I'll back him and I want the club to back him and you're not backing him if you're not getting the players in that he needs. It's too many Manchester United fans, too many fans, but too many Man United managers over the years. And we've all witnessed it. Don't get their best options.

14:11And that needs to change. That needs to change. Also on Mateus Fernandes this morning, Jacob Steenberg, who has been right around some stuff with United for a while, certainly around the Ten Hag stuff, writes for the Guardian, also saying Tottenham pushing for Mateus Fernandes. and are prepared to beat Man United on the finances. This, I think, is something I just wanted to add in as well. If Mateus Fernandes is willing to go to Spurs and Manchester United and Spurs are willing to beat us on financials, then we've got a problem because we hate that. We absolutely hate that. Imagine a scenario Well, we don't need to imagine a scenario Man United don't like spending money So when they're trying to get a player And then someone else comes along and says Man United are going to bid 70, 75 Man United are going to bid 75, 80 Man United are willing to go up to 80, 85 No hesitation, they'll just go boom, boom, boom, boom, boom So I think it's going to get interesting It's going to get very interesting on Mateus Fernandes I still believe we'll get the deal done.

15:27And it's not based on pretending I've got a source on this and writing tweets and pretending I know. It's just a hunch. I've always had a hunch that we'll get it over the line. But we'll have to wait and see. And I think that what I would acknowledge is that on Friday, I was taking the piss out of Spurs. I was saying, absolutely no way Mateus Fernandes goes to Spurs. No way. Has he got a relegation fetish? does he want to get relegated three years in a row because he's been relegated with Southampton and Westam. I took the piss out of it and... John Daly here. You know what day it is? Neither do I.

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16:53And it's interesting because at Man United, our coaches are coaches. They're puppets. Spurs have clearly got a manager. And to get Deserby, he's clearly said, I'm only going to take the job if you do this, this and this. And now they've got to go and do it, which is why they're ambitious. They have a manager with power. Whereas at Man United, that's not what we have. We have puppets who have to do what the board says. Anthony says your hunch was Anderson. Yeah, mate, that's why I said it was a hunch. A hunch doesn't matter if I get it right or wrong. I'm not telling you it's from a source. If I tell you it's from our source and it's wrong, then by all means, moan and everything like that.

17:31A hunch is just a feeling. So what if I get it wrong? It doesn't matter. It's a hunch. It's just an opinion. Looks like we're in a bidding war. Wonder if we'll get it done, says John. Just catching up on some super chats, by the way. Then we'll talk about Lewis Hall. Please do share the video if you're watching, by the way. We've got over 7 ,000 watching. Thank you very much for getting involved this morning. If we had Spurs ambition, we'd run the league easy, says Matt Loves Football. I just want a club with ambition. I do. That's what I want. I just want a club with ambition. Thanks, Anthony.

18:07JMR says, we paid what it took because we were winning. We've not been successful for a decade now. We can't keep acting the way we used to when we are not winning. Well, did you see that update from Mike Keegan yesterday when he was on with Beth? and he said basically the club have changed course. For years, they were bowing to pressure of going out and spending big money on players and overpaying, and it didn't work, and now they're going to approach it in a different way. And I thought this is the simpleton approach to running a football club. So you spent big money on Pogba and Sancho and Alexi Sanchez and Di Maria, and it didn't work, so now you're not going to do it anymore.

18:48so you went out when you were younger trying to find a wife or a husband you went out with a few people it didn't work out so you've given up and you're going to stay home and watch netflix now and never try and meet someone that's how stupid it is so you met a few people it didn't work out so now you're not going to bother meeting anyone it's the most stupid logic that almost self-deflects it onto the fans. Well, the fans were telling us to go and buy players and we did and it didn't work. So now we're not going to spend big money on anyone anymore. I tell you what, we weren't on the board then and we're not on the board now.

19:23The fans didn't buy those players. You fucking did. We didn't tell you to go and buy Lukaku. We didn't go and tell you to go and buy Alexi Sanchez. We didn't go and tell you to go and buy Di Maria. You did it. We didn't tell you to buy Harry Maguire for£80 million and give him£200 grand a week. You did it. I'll tell you for free though, stopping spending money on good players is not going to make you good. Thinking that buying good players is going to make us bad is wrong. You're fucked up because you paid stupid prices for stupid players and gave them stupid contracts and stupid wages. If you go out and buy good players and give them good wages, you will be successful.

20:04You just bought the wrong fucking players. You took a billion pounds and you've put it on a bonfire. Richard Arnold was right when he said I walked into Carrington looked at how much we've been spending and went where is it? Exactly right. We spent the money badly but we need to spend money. You spend it on good players. If Erling Harlan said I've got a Man United fetish I'm going to cost 250 million pounds and half a million pounds a week I'd think about paying it. now some of you go now now now i think about paying it because i'm getting a guaranteed gold machine for the next five years i'll pay what it takes to get quality the trouble is we paid what it takes to get shit and anthony stands clear for me as one of the worst deals we've ever bloody done we gave him well over 150 grand a week and we we gave ajax 80 million pounds that's not the fans fault that's not the fans fault but i could spend that 80 million pounds on Tonali and give him 250 rand a week and I'd be very happy to do that.

21:05Let's run it back, Mark, and have an old-fashioned, fast-talking auctioneer handle the bidding war. It would get really sorted really quickly, says Owen. Desiree says they walk away. The midfield will be Edison, Belaber and bloody Hayden Hackney or Fletcher. Forget Chumini, Fernandes, Scott. They won't overpay, says Desiree. I'll leave Fernandes here before we move on to Lewis Hall. If they walk away from this deal, I think I have no information on the Fernandes deal I don't, right? But I think they have to pay And in paying They hypocrisise what they're all about They're going to have to overpay And what people are forgetting is To get Mateus Fernandes It's not just giving West Ham what they want It's also giving the player and the agent What Spurs are offering as well You're not just pleasing West Ham Some people think We've just got to pay West Ham 80 million to get him.

21:59Mateus Fernandes will also have a contract at nearly 200 grand a week. We'll have to pay that as well. So we'll have to pay twice here, which completely contradicts what we're apparently trying to do. But I think we've got to do it because walking away from it makes us look even worse. So I think you're not either in a difficult situation here, but they were always going to be in this difficult situation. It's probably long overdue because with Mboumo, Le Mans, Yoro, Cunha, we've not been in this position where the player only wants us and there's no one else to deal with. In reality, football, you do have to compete.

22:39You do have to overpay to get what you want. And it's long overdue for United. We're now in this situation where we can't control the story. So we either walk away and get ridiculed or we overpay and get the player that we want. Let's see what which United choose to do. 60 % of you say we should pay. 40 % say we should walk away. Nat Johnston said, Midfield is so important this season. We'll be playing two games a week. Pay the price for these players. We can't have Maynew Edison on the weekend, then Agate and Mount during the week. Scary thought, isn't it? Amit says, Fernandes wants United. Why would West Ham sell him to Spurs?

23:16Because that's not the story, Amit. You've just made that up. If he was adamantly wanting Manchester United, there would be no bidding war. I've seen enough. Get Stropman in, says Keksi. Why don't we use the 80 million for Chumini, says David. And do you think United are waiting to see if City's 1-1-5 happens before they commit? Do they have inside information, says Sonnen? I've seen this a few times, right? And I'm not taking the piss out of you, Sonnen, because you are probably just reacting to story, right? if Manchester City and the Premier League don't know what's going to happen in that case how the bloody hell do Man United have inside info that no one else has got and are waiting for the result nobody knows the result of that case it won't leak it will come out then the second it comes out it will not sorry it won't leak early it will just go boom um even City have had their flocks but not many at all since Pep went in this is due to best-in-class recruitment and scouting says Tom McBride.

24:15Thank you very much. And midfield situation for United is the worst puzzle to solve, says Amit. I actually think it's a very easy puzzle to solve. I think you can build so many combinations. I was talking about Chelsea yesterday. They want to buy a midfielder, but they've got to sell Enzo Fernandes first. Even if they enter the midfield market late, there's still the likes of Stilla and Mica, Manukone. You know, there's so many midfielders beyond what we're looking at. It really is a buyer's market. But the problem is we need to get our plan A's and B's, certainly. I want to talk about Lewis Hall next because some conflicting stuff coming in around Lewis Hall.

24:56Obviously, certain people have been putting it out there that Lewis Hall was high on United's list and they're ready to pounce this, that and the other. The reality is Mike Keegan yesterday on the show said there's bafflement at Man United as to why they've been linked to Lewis Hall. and nobody knows where it's actually come from. There was also an update from Chris Wheeler yesterday as well around this in the Daily Mail. And he said that Lewis Hall may have been mentioned as a potential target for Man United, but it's unlikely the club would have the money left over to do a deal of that magnitude this summer anyway.

25:31So a double kick in the nuts around Lewis Hall, really. One, people at United are baffled that we've been linked to him. and two we wouldn't have the money to do a deal of that magnitude anyway so i think in relation to lewis hall as with many summers really um it's just fantasy isn't it and we we you know i'm not gonna complain about it really i'll complain about the fact that we're not buying players of that quality of course but i'm not going to complain about the fact that this is just what happens um we're manchester united and this is what happens we have we have these types of deals where we get linked to somebody, we get very excited and lo and behold, a couple of weeks later, we get told we're not going to do a deal like that.

26:16The question is if...

26:24I'll tell you what, the timing of that's almost 23 minutes in. What hydration break? hydration break on the united stand is not sponsored by powerade it's sponsored by water which you can get free in your taps um upstairs downstairs and sometimes out your showers or don't drink your water out your shower hydration break sponsored by water on the united stand if you want if there's a brand out there that wants to sponsor our hydration breaks welcome um yeah that's that's not tap water actually it's um it is actually filtered water i've got one of those taps where yeah you know you know me i like the best i've got one of those taps where um you twist it and it goes blue and it's filtered water or you double tap it down and it's boiling water coming out your tap can't remember what it's called we're not sponsored by them so i don't really care anyway i actually do need a hydration break make sure you're hydrating today public service message from Mark Goldbridge to the world.

27:27It's hot out there. Keep hydrated. Basically, if you go into the toilet and there's not much coming out and it looks like treacle, you're dehydrated. It should be coming out like a clear, ideally, but light and plentiful. Water's not free, says Daj. Oh, here we go. All right, mate. Nothing's free. there's no such thing as a free lunch um okay so yeah let's carry on with the lewis hall um yeah it's not a great update somerville coming up next um yeah it's not a great update around lewis hall i think it's a reality bite and i think that as as united fans over the years we're more than aware of this happening um we get linked to players we get overexcited we take up you know we have ambitions higher than that of the club and we start thinking that you know Lewis Hall at left back Edison Fernandez and Chiamini in the midfield and you know someone like a Brobby up front or a Yandiamonde on the wing would be a reasonable transfer window and I think you're right but not at this club I mean it's almost like I don't I don't even think as fans we're greedy I don't even think we're going Nuno Mendes at left back, Vinicius Jr.

28:51on the left wing, Harry Kane as a striker. We don't even do that. We just go Lewis Hall at left back, Diamande on the left wing, maybe a Brian Brobby up front, reasonable midfield. Even that's a pipe dream. So Solid Blake says, please fondle that like button. I've never heard it described like that, but please do hit the like button. So yeah, it sounds like in the last 24 hours from Chris Wheeler and Mike Keegan separately, the Lewis Hall deal has died, which is frustrating because Luke Shaw, I know a lot of people rate Luke Shaw, Ricky. I don't. I used to. I don't. I don't think he had a very good season last year.

29:37I think people confuse availability with ability. I also don't think he's going to get any better at 30 And I also don't think he's going to be able to deal with I mean, Luke Shaw Watching the World Cup last night Was probably getting more excited about Ghana Than any other team he's watched Because they don't go past the halfway line either But no, we definitely need a left back So if it's not going to be Lewis Hall what plan c d f g are we going to go for now i don't know and that's what i was thinking about this morning um when i was you know reading about the lewis hall stuff being too expensive um and that word seems to be coming those two words seem to be entering the vocabulary a lot as well too expensive which i which i don't understand by the way i don't understand how spurs can be will pay what it takes and they're not in the champions league and united who are are in the champions league can go we're tightening our belts so um yeah what about truffet says gabriel i've not heard anything about truffet and bournemouth i mean i would buy him but i've not heard anything about him and therefore i presume he's staying at bournemouth um we were linked to nathaniel brown at frankfurt but he's going to buy in so i i don't know i mean knowing United it'll be another West Ham player we'll go and get bloody Dioff as well as Somerville and Fernandes which you know would make me laugh but maybe that's what they could look at but I do like Truffaut I think he's a decent player where do you rate Chumini to Anderson and Tonali says Vib

31:26I think for me I'd be happy with any of them because they are the level of midfielder that Man United need to go for. So I'd be happy with any of them. However, excuse me, I'm yawning a lot. This is the hangover of watching England last night. Every time I think about it, it makes me yawn. I think that, yeah, I think for me still, it's between Tonali and Anderson if I had to pick between the three. And Ciumini would be number three. But I'd be very happy with him, yeah. Andy Atherton says, I think United will sign for Labour. and claim they've pulled off an amazing signing, getting in for£70 million when Brighton wanted£100 million a year ago.

32:10I'd have to be very careful if we signed for Labour, because I just don't believe in writing a signing off before they've kicked a ball. But I think that would be an incredibly shit deal. And as somebody said last night, they'd really have to sell it as trusting their data. But where they're getting their data from, They must not have renewed the subscription for last season because they'll be using data from the season before last.

32:37I'm very calm this morning, but I find it wild that United think Belaber is a solution to their midfield when he was crap in his most recent season. And there's no evidence to suggest that he can come into Man United and replace Casemiro. I think it would be wild to use a player like that, to be honest with you, who is an absolute punt and expensive at that as well. The data wasn't very good last season, Joey. No, it wasn't. So you're wrong. And if you want to present your data, off the top of my head, I know because I've looked at it. He averages closest to 30 passes per game when most midfielders we're looking at are doing 50.

33:20his defensive stats are no better than most of the midfielders that we're looking at as well he's not progressive with the ball and for the eye test well it was hard to do the eye test with Belaber actually because he spent most of the season sat on the bench or being subbed off early so yeah season before the stats were okay mate but you're going to go on a season before surely you go on the season where we tried to buy him and he's on trial and he fucks it up but look if you want to sign him it's up to you my midfield situation for united is done that one from amit as well um okay let me move on and talk about somerville now so this was also from jacob steenberg in the guardian uh tottenham are now one of the clubs considering a move for somerville as well united and chelsea are tracking the player um i've seen a few people sort of changing their minds on Somerville, which is, it's the predictability of a football fan in the transfer window.

34:21You want plan A, you want plan B, you want plan C, and then when you're down to plan D, you will get fans who go, actually, I think they're good. You know what? Despite what I did say before, I actually think they're good. And it's almost like a syndrome of some point where your first reaction is the right reaction, but you almost become bamboozled and convinced by something that you never would have considered doing and I think with Somerville that's what's happening now it's not a name that Man United fans would have been really thinking about but now it's like well it's better than nothing and now suddenly you know is the next big thing and I genuinely just think it's a mediocre signing with a lack of ambition from a club that we're already in discussions with and traditionally i think somerville probably is a tottenham player i certainly don't think he's a player that's going to come into manchester united um and set the world on fire i don't i don't think he's consistent enough um he scored a good goal in the world cup maybe that that helps people but i just think this i mean look if we were signing noosa from leipzig i'd be very very excited if we were signing diamonde from leipzig i'd be very excited but i just think this is a bit of a mid signing and we've made two i mean look united say they don't want to spend big money anymore because they've made mistakes we've also made mistakes buying mid signings zerksy agate you know how many more players have we bought like somerville where it hasn't worked these mid signings i mean is that a conversation that we need to have because apparently we don't want to spend over 80 million pounds on players anymore so we clearly want to keep buying players around around the 40 50 60 mark but yoro at 50 million isn't working at the moment agate 60 million isn't working at the moment xerxi 35 million isn't working at the moment anana 50 million didn't work donny van de beck 40 million didn't work so it's not this is what I mean I think sometimes you get the headlines of we don't want to spend lots of money on players anymore because it didn't work yeah but the cheaper players don't work as well um yeah would you prefer NJ over Somerville yes I do think he's better but um he'd be more expensive so look I'd rather United told the truth we know Somerville is plan E but he's cheap because he's been relegated I can deal with that I can moan about the lack of ambition and the lack of money but I can deal with that it's when we polish a turd and try and retell a story are we going for Somerville because it's the only midfielder that we can get that's half decent in the budget that we've got if that's the case fine because NGI is going to cost you 60-70 million pounds and Somerville is going to cost you 40-50 so if that's the reason financials I can deal with it don't try and dress it up as the dream target though because he's definitely planned d e and f and and i don't think i'm wrong to say that we shouldn't be signing michael carrick options planned d e and f because we've been doing that for previous managers and it doesn't work and i also think the enormity of the job that michael carrick's got should not be lost on anybody it is an enormous job that he has absolutely enormous and um you know michael carrick's experience is an okay tenure at Middlesbrough and some very good interim, two very good interim periods at Man United.

38:10It's not a rich tapestry of high-end coaching. So give him some high-end players. But look, we could be walking into God knows what next season. And I think we all knew that next season was going to be very difficult. and therefore we needed to have a very good summer transfer window. And at the moment, we can still have a good summer transfer window. Does it stand and fall over what happens with Mateus Fernandes? We're in a bidding war, if you've tuned in late. Fabrizio Romano's confirmed that. West Ham are only interested in selling to the highest bidder and they don't care who it is. And Fernandes is apparently open to going to Spurs as much as Man United and he's basically saying it's up to the clubs.

38:54I mean, if Fernandes is saying, look, if you want me, bid for me, then United have got to go and bid, haven't they? Gamer King of... Sorry, I won't ignore this. Somebody said, what do you think is going to happen with Fernandes? Well, as I said, my hunch is that we will get him. I think the more pertinent question is, when do I think it will happen with Fernandes? on the one hand I think if Spurs are genuinely interested they could drop a bid and it moves really quickly on the other hand I think Spurs may be more focused on Tonali and therefore it could still run and run for a bit of time I think it speeds up on who puts the bid in really um we're a week away from july the 1st it's the 24th of june today so we're a week away from july the 1st that could have an impact um i wouldn't be surprised if we get a bid pre june the 30th based on financial footballing financial year and what suits west ham i just wonder whether somebody might drop a bid before june the 30th and see and test west ham's resolve but realistically if I was Spurs I'd drop a bid now that I know United aren't comfortable with I'd drop a first bid at 75 and see what Man United do and let me be honest 75 million pounds for Mateus Fernandes is fucking ridiculous I mean I remember last summer Sesco for 67 million thinking it's a lot but let's do it 75 for Mateus Fernandes from West Ham it is ridiculous money but as I said 50 million 75 million is the new 50 million isn't it everybody's price has gone up by about 20 million quid Rory says why is Spurs not bidding if they're willing to pay well there'll be a reason for that they'll be playing their own game there's many midfielder Sorry, GamerKing of Kings says, there's many mid-shelf midfielder options out there, so I'll focus all efforts on signing the only viable option for our number one signing, Chumini.

41:19And ItzNage says, it's only cheap signing I've seen work is Cherki for 35 million. Thank you very much. Well, Le Mans was cheap, to be fair, from a United point of view. Yeah. Calvin says, the problem is everybody is overpriced. And yes, and I think that I've seen a few people say, be sympathetic to United when it comes to that saying, you know, it's overpriced. But is that not the job of a CEO or a director of football or an analyst or data dean to know that? I mean, I don't know that it's an excuse to walk into a window saying, well, we had all these plans, but other people want them and the prices have gone up.

42:02I mean, a quick summary of the last five transfer windows, including January, would give you a very clear insight of the possibility that bidding wars could happen and prices could inflate. And as part of the 12-month preparation for this huge summer transfer window, I would have expected somebody might have said, we might want to get a couple of deals tied up early because the longer we wait, inflation could knock those prices up by 10, 20, 30%. And United are very business focused as well. I can't believe that we've not seen this coming, that prices could get inflated this window, especially when we all knew Elliot Anderson was going to go.

42:44And we all knew that Elliot Anderson would go for over£100 million. So it was natural that your Bournemouths and your West Ams and your Brightons, if they sell their midfielders, are going to go, well, if Elliot Anderson's£110, we want£75. So, yeah, we maybe should have lined a few things up. pre that. Just on Alex Scott, you're quite right. Somebody said, what's the latest on Alex Scott? Few things coming out this morning, I think probably post what we were talking about with Mike Keegan yesterday. And also to be fair, a number of other journalists repetitively do use Alex Scott as an option for Man United this summer.

43:27The situation with Alex Scott is that he's on holiday um he was part of the england uh preparations for the world cup because he was on standby so he only actually left that camp about a week and a half ago so he is on holiday um bournemouth want him to sign a new contract with a release clause and they were quite confident of that happening the feeling is that he wants to assess his options because he missed out on the World Cup and you know Bournemouth next season without Iriola may not be the force they were before so staying at Bournemouth may not be the best thing for his England career or his career so Scott wants to assess his options before signing a new contract with Bournemouth one of those options could be Man United one of those options could be Liverpool one of those options could be Arsenal so I would say with Alex Scott good player but would you trust or get excited about man united monitoring the situation we monitored the elliot anderson situation for nine months and just kept watching yeah every dating app swap is another loss jim bros fake ceos straight up losers so now the only app i open is moto casino because at least there i'm surrounded by winners real winners thousands of them while everyone else is in the single swamp i'm at home relaxing while stacking bonuses hitting wins and playing all my favorite vegas style games moto casino the only app worth your time moto casino social casino we're prohibited no purchase necessary visit moto.us for more details download the moto casino app today must be 21 plus moto casino american social casino well like those idiots that film things on their phone where someone's getting beat up or something and just keep filming it and don't help um yes but i'm filming the evidence no you're not you're doing it for your socials um yeah we're just monitoring scott at the moment so i won't believe it's moving towards anything until we move it towards anything if that makes sense but uh yeah and also we're not we're not capable of working on more than one deal at a time so i think that it will be another reason why we're not moving forward on a scott or a chimney uh chimney at the moment um but look let's see let's see what happens

45:47just saw a tweet from Terry there saying I feel we should walk away I rate the player but 80 million is too much fair play to West Ham they've got their bidding war and look in fairness to Terry and some of you lot you will say walk away but what are you going to walk away what are you walking away to that's what I want to know you know if it's my birthday and I'm going out and I'm being told we're going to this restaurant that I really like and we get there and it's busy and uh the restaurant manager says um we can give you a table in an hour but our prices have gone up by 10 because we're so busy do you go and find another restaurant you probably do but i'm like where are we going then because i was really looking forward to eating at that restaurant you know and if we're going to mcdonald's you can shove it up your ass it tastes like cardboard so um actually i like a mcdonald's i like a big mac i'm not my palate's not as great as it used to be with things like McDonald's but give me an Italian restaurant any day of the week so look we can walk away from the Mateus Fernandes deal but if we walk away from the Mateus Fernandes deal the only thing that's growing at Mang United is our calf muscles from walking away because we've walked away from Anderson, Diamande Tonali, Fernandes Lewis Hall can't keep walking away you can't keep walking away from confrontation can you if we want to win we've got to win these battles you know it is a little bit like if you ever think about I used to love these games on the Amiga and stuff civilization and everything like that where you start off with your own sort of army and um you know you're trying to grow your you know the land that you rule and you sometimes go into an area and you'll see an army that's much bigger than yours so you can't battle them and it you know but if you keep walking away from battles they're going to keep getting bigger and eventually they're just going to find you and beat you like we can't just keep walking away all the time i think that that that's my stance um we're going to end up with shit and if we walk away from matthews fernandez where do we go next Alex Scott sounds like there'll be a bidding war there And then all roads lead to Belaber Because that's the only player that we can get So look, I'm not saying it's wrong to walk away But walk away where?

48:17We've already walked away too many times in my opinion Yeah, that's where I'm at with it at the moment I do believe we can still get Mateus Fernandes And I do believe we can still get Chumini Yeah, yeah

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49:05sorry i just has anyone noticed as well if if 50 if 80 million pounds is the new 50 there is a real growing thing on x of fake quotes um you see them on your timeline you have to double check uh morning mark what do you think about budget what do you think our budget is for the summer uh says fian fiona uh is it fiona fiona maybe it isn't um i don't know what the budget is um it doesn't sound like we've got enough money for three midfielders and a left back let alone a winger so i don't think the budget's that great but we'll have to wait and see um the issue is we're desperate this is the market for premier league proven players if we want any of them start expecting an extra 20 million plus for deals and it will just go up as well mate you can't walk away from Mateus Fernandes because it's too expensive and go to Bournemouth and go yeah well you can have Alex Scott for 55 they'll go we want 75 as well if you go to Brighton for they'll want 70 so you can walk away but you're just walking to the same conversation we walked away from Anderson and Tonali because they're too expensive to go for Mateus Fernandes who's now too expensive so i think you can keep walking away but you're just going to keep being presented by the same problem everybody's overpriced we might be able to get mctomedy back for 120 says robert and uh why is spurs links with the united links player because they're ambitious raj yeah i think i think that i think that might be it there we go um But yeah, I think that may be the case.

50:43Right. Great show this morning. Thank you so much. The rest of the week, this feels like the longest week ever and I can't figure it out why. Maybe it's the weather. I don't know. I can't believe it's only Wednesday morning. But if you haven't seen the Mike Keegan interview, I would suggest you watch that. The feedback's been so good. It was such a good interview with him and Beth. We have got, we had Simon Stone on last Friday. We've got Ben Jacobs on on Thursday. It's a seven o 'clock show. That's what I want to say. Seven o 'clock on the United stand tonight because we're doing the World Cup at eight.

51:16And talking of Scott McTominay, it's Brazil against Scotland 10-8 at 11pm. I'll be doing that as well. So eight and 11 are our World Cup watch-alongs tonight. So we'll be on at seven o 'clock here. We've got a two o 'clock show as well. Look, let's see what today brings. I feel like we're on the edge of some update coming in around Fernandes. I feel like, you know, something's got to give soon, certainly. But let's see. We'll be ready to react when it happens because you know what? We've had some good information around Chumini. And, you know, if United are willing to pay, we can do that deal.

51:58And I've known that and I've told you about that. Never had any information about Fernandes and I'm bloody glad we didn't because I would not want to be some of those people with their information who've been basically lied to because this deal is not close this deal is not a one-horse race and I don't think United are relaxed at all anymore I don't think they're relaxed at all you cannot be relaxed about this situation where another club if they beat you are going to embarrass you but they also are willing to pay more money than you and if you walk away you're going to look ridiculous so United will be very far from relaxed at the moment and i don't know whether anybody takes any comfort in that but they will not be relaxed now they'll be like if we get him we're going to overpay which we don't want to do and if we walk away we're going to look stupid and if we lose to spurs we're going to look even more stupid so how whatever the outcome now it won't be the outcome that united wanted they're not going to get him cheap they're not going to get him on cheap wages or they're going to miss out so it's going to be very interesting to see what happens.

52:5958 % of you would pay and 42 % of you would walk away from Mateus Fernandez at 75 million. I'll speak to you all in a bit. Great show today. Thank you very much for watching. Take care.

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