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27 Jun 2026 · 39m · 15 chapters

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448: United TRANSFER Panic! HUGE Ferndandes BID incoming!

In short

Manchester United transfer panic after Manuel Ugarte’s (Agate) severe knee injury threatens the club’s plan to buy only a third midfielder if he leaves; plus major updates on West Ham midfielder Matheus Fernandes (Fernandes) with Man United trying to outbid Tottenham.

Guest backgrounds

No named guests appear in the transcript; it’s hosted by Mark Goldbridge with live chat/superchats.

Key claims

Ugarte’s injury could be season-ending (possibly ACL) and keep him out for months, forcing United to reconsider their “sell first, then buy” midfield policy. United may have to break wage/fee rules to sign Fernandes. West Ham will sell to the highest bidder; Romano says Fernandes is open to both clubs, so it’s about money. Reported figures: Spurs around £80m and £200k/week; United previously around £65m and £150k/week, now willing to improve.

Notable examples

Comparisons to Man City’s Rodri/Haaland ACL reactions; Arsenal using multiple targets for leverage; mentions of potential “cheap third midfielder” options (youth/loan) if Ugarte remains on wages.

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Chapters

0:00

Injury Impacts Transfer Plans

Mark discusses the injury to Manuel Agate and its effect on transfer strategy.

“You work hard to stay healthy and want the freedom to make the best decisions for yourself and your family.”
1:38

Injury Impacts Transfer Plans

Mark discusses the injury to Manuel Agate and its effect on transfer strategy.

“One involving an incredibly bad injury for Manuel Agate.”
2:26

The Transfer Window Dilemma

Analyzing Manchester United's options for signing a third midfielder amidst the injury crisis.

“United are going to be scrambling around over the next 48 hours, desperately trying to salvage a transfer window that they've been left short on because they tried to plan it out and you've got to be adaptable.”
6:01

Mateus Fernandes Update

Latest developments on Mateus Fernandes and the competition with West Ham and Spurs.

“to know your comments on how you think that's going to work out.”
7:58

Strategic Shifts in Transfer Policy

Discussion on whether Manchester United needs to adapt their transfer strategy in light of recent events.

“So I think what I would say, and I haven't had any update from our source for about a week, so I need to probably get in contact with them, actually.”
10:36

Urgency for a Third Midfielder

Mark stresses the need for Manchester United to secure a third midfielder after Agate's injury.

“Because it's the fire up the arse, the rocket up the arse that the club needs.”
14:00

Mateus Fernandes Transfer Overview

Discussion on the financial aspects of Mateus Fernandes' potential transfer to Manchester United.

“You decided to pay big wages to get this player and look what happened.”
14:42

Impact of Agate's Injury on Transfers

Exploration of how Agate's injury affects Manchester United's strategy in the transfer market.

“Let me just catch up on a couple of Super Chats, then we're going to talk about the Agate injury and what that means for a third midfielder, which is separate to this, but still very, very big.”
17:36

Evaluating Midfield Signings

Analysis of potential midfield signings and their implications for the team.

“buying three midfielders because Agate's injured.”
20:25

The Debate on Wages and Spending

A discussion on the importance of wages in attracting top talent to Manchester United.

“but Bournemouth would probably want 50 million in this market.”
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24:26

Future of Fernandes and Transfer Strategy

Thoughts on the future of Fernandes and potential strategies for Manchester United's transfer activities.

“And I'll applaud that because I might not think Mateus Fernandes is the right player and I don't.”
28:04

Analyzing the Mateus Fernandes Bid

Discussion around the potential signing of Mateus Fernandes and the implications for Manchester United.

“I think we're going to give him a big wage.”
31:32

Midfield Dynamics and Injury Concerns

Exploration of Manchester United's midfield strategy and the impact of player injuries.

“Tom McBride says, I'm confident we'll get Chimini now.”
34:19

Understanding Wage Structures in Transfers

Insights into Manchester United's wage policies and how they affect transfer negotiations.

“Unlucky with a number of injuries, but Man United comes first.”
38:59

Upcoming Show and Wrap-Up

Announcement of the next show and a brief recap of the discussed topics.

“I just wanted to keep this morning show to those two stories, by the way, the Fernandes stuff and the Agate stuff.”
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1:23Go to highpebble.ai before it's gone. That's highpebl.ai. Terms and conditions apply. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United transfer news, and it's two big stories coming in this morning. One involving an incredibly bad injury for Manuel Agate. What does that mean for Man United's transfer plans? Remember, the third midfielder has always been dependent on Agate leaving. This injury could be months in the recovery. And also big updates coming in on Mateus Fernandes this morning from multiple outlets, including Fabrizio Romano.

2:00Basically, West Ham will sell to the club that offers the best price. It's that simple. Well, what we can definitely, definitely take from these two big stories this morning and analyze as well is that Manchester United's calmness and perception of relaxation will not be the case this morning. There will be emergency meetings. There will be strategies. There will be plans that Man United put in place about, we'll only buy a third midfielder when we get rid of Agate. We won't pay these wages. We won't pay those transfer fees. United are going to be scrambling around over the next 48 hours, desperately trying to salvage a transfer window that they've been left short on because they tried to plan it out and you've got to be adaptable.

2:41And if they're not quick, they're going to be in big, big trouble. The feeling is Man United may well break their own rules to get Mateus Fernandes. They may well increase the wage to match Spurs and the transfer fee. We could be talking£80 million and£200 grand a week. That's the stuff that's coming out this morning to get into. Should United be doing that? Abso-bloody-lutely they should. This is a bloody transfer window. You cannot map it out just because you're Man United. And you know what? When I hear... Well, we'll get into that in a minute. Let's just go through the news. So look, a little bit later this morning, we've had Mati Moreto update.

3:17We've had Romano update. We'll get into all that diving. You're not the presenter of the show. If you want to go and present your own show, go for it. We know what we're covering and we'll go through that. But there is a strategy to what we're going to do this morning to tell the story. So we're live a little bit later this morning. It's normally at 10 a.m. It's 11 a.m. I needed my seven hours sleep. I watched Uruguay, Spain at 1 a.m. Thanks to everybody who tuned in on the Watch Along on Nats Football. We got to see it live in 4K. We got to see what happened with Agate. I've seen people waking up this morning Who didn't watch it Going well it might not be that bad It's bad It's bad Uruguay are out of the World Cup At the point of that injury There were still ages left And they were losing 1-0 to Spain You don't go off On a stretcher In agony With your knee If you just had a little knock He was in big trouble And he's not You know in fairness to Agate I wish it had worked out at Man United But he's not that type of player He was I'm not going to swear on it on a morning show, or I'm going to try not to, he was in big trouble.

4:20Is it an ACL? I don't know, but he's in big trouble. I think we're talking potentially a season ender and the season hasn't even started, but certainly I think we're talking months and months and months. Think about Martinez. So that's a huge problem for Man United because I think going into the World Cup, they were like, hopefully he's going to do quite well and somebody's going to take him on loan, maybe even buy him. I certainly alone. Now, United have always made it very clear through every journalist and every brief, they will only bring a third midfielder in when Agathe goes. So what happens now?

4:56Agathe isn't going, but isn't available. Are they going to commit the worst sin of all and say, we're not buying a third midfielder because Agathe is here, but Agathe can't play? This is going to be massively compelling to see how United react to this. Now, some people think they'll just promote a youth player, which is ridiculous. Fletcher or someone like that. That's ridiculous. Some people think they might go for a loan because it's cheaper. Some people are hoping that it will just make Man United abandon their stupid strategic parameters and go, we need three midfielders regardless of Agate.

5:33I don't know what we're going to do, but we will definitely be panicking now. All this, oh, we're relaxed, we're calm and we're patient. I mean, literally last night we were talking about United being patient and Andy Mitten or The Athletic or maybe it was Manchester Evening News saying that Man United feel that if they're patient they'll get their rewards. Well patience has not given you any rewards has it? Patience has given you a player that you wanted to sell with a you know season ending injury that you're not going to be able to move on. It's catastrophic. The Agate injury is catastrophic for Manchester United and I'd love to know your comments on how you think that's going to work out.

6:07But then the second story this morning is basically coming in around Enzo, Mateus Fernandes. Man United are back in the hunt for Mateus Fernandes and trying to get ahead. In the last few hours, there have been new contacts with the player and they're willing to improve their contractual offer to convince him to sign. This is from Matty Moreto. That's basically saying that we're going to increase wages. Fabrizio Romano has said in the last few hours as well, West Ham will only sell to the highest bidder. If it's a pound more from Man United than Spurs, they will sell to Manchester United. It's open.

6:45The player is open to both offers, which I don't like that. I really want to believe he prefers this, but Romano is saying the player is open doors to both clubs and that effectively it comes down to West ham and it comes down to who bids the most money um it's an open race basically that that's that's what it is but the indication is that man united still believe they're in that race um west ham have told george mendez the agent that fernandez will be sold to the club offering the most money who offers one penny more will get the player man united are yet to give up as per fabrizio romano last few hours apparently we're back in apparently we're going to hold direct talks with West Ham Tottenham remain in the race and have pressed in recent days but now United are trying to get ahead and then the Manchester Evening News are saying that by the end of the weekend we could have a good idea of which club he chooses it might not be a surprise that talks have accelerated in the final week of June given West Ham's financial situation there is confidence that Tottenham can do a deal and suggestions they're willing to meet West Ham's 80 million demands But there isn't yet a sense United are giving up and moving on to other targets.

8:00So I think what I would say, and I haven't had any update from our source for about a week, so I need to probably get in contact with them, actually. But looking at it, I think we had a week where United were trying to convey this. We're relaxed. We're relaxed. I don't think you can be relaxed. In fact, I would not want to hear that Man United are relaxed this morning. It would very much annoy me because I think you can be a successful, ambitious business and still not be relaxed. I think, you know, if you're Manchester City and Rodri did his ACL last night and Haaland did his ACL last night, neither did.

8:39And Haaland didn't play. Man City wouldn't wake up and go, we're relaxed. They'd go, fucking hell, that's a nightmare. We need to act quickly. so this persona of being relaxed which United always put out in a transfer window when we're not relaxed United always put it out we're relaxed it's not actually a good thing being relaxed is not actually the character traits of success sometimes you've got to go this is shit we need to act and I think finally this weekend Man United will be doing that and it sounds like we are doing it because we know what Spurs are going to do if Spurs bid which they very well may do they are going to offer around£80 million and they're going to offer around£200 ,000 a week in wages.

9:21Now, from what we know, Man United wanted to offer around£65 ,000 and around£150 ,000. So it's short. It's short on both. What we're hearing this morning is that Man United are not out and they are going to try again, which means we're smashing down our own parameters. Good. Good. Maybe on the wrong player. I'll hold it up there. but finally it seems like there's a bit of reality breaking into man united's arrogant stubborn policy not every summer is going to play out like embermo where it's like i only want you i only want you i only want you i only want i mean embermo basically did the job for his last season you think about it he did i'm not going anywhere else i just want man united and i'm going to sit here until it happens that is not being a director of football that is not being a good negotiator that's having it easy.

10:14Finally, it looks like we've woken up to the reality of a football club and a transfer window. You've got to fight for what you want. You've sometimes got to pay a little bit more for what you want. You've got to be competitive to get what you want. So I think this morning, Man United are panicking. Thank God. I think Man United this morning will be calling them emergency meetings. I think Man United this morning, their transfer plans are in tatters. Good. Because it's the fire up the arse, the rocket up the arse that the club needs. We can't just sit back there going, we're relaxed. We're Craig David.

10:45We're walking away. You know, we've got to go into this two-footed and try and make something happen. So I look, I can't promise we're going to win. But if we are going to win, if we are going to get Mateus Fernandes, it wasn't part of the plan to do this. It wasn't part of the plan to give him these wages. And it wasn't part of the plan to pay this fee. But as many people are saying in the chat, you walk away to Alex Scott, you've got the same problem. But you go to Belaba, you've got the same problem. You will overpay. There is no fair value market. There is no fair value in any midfielder that we're looking at.

11:20Everybody is going to bump their price up. So if you want to walk away to Alex Scott, a£50 million player becomes a£70 million player. If you want to go for Belaba, a£40 million player is going to be£60,£70 million. pounds. If you want to jump into the Tenale race, that's going to be 90 to 100. So everywhere we go, we will be paying big fees now. And I'm hoping this morning that Man United have woken up, literally woken up and gone, whichever way we go, our policy doesn't work. Whichever way we turn, we ain't getting fair value. So we may as well overpay for Fernandes because he's actually a high priority.

11:58And I think that's what we're going to do. So all this conversation about, oh, he only wants us. It's been sorted for weeks. Bullshit. Bullshit. Even I got hooked by it. Bullshit. Whoever was putting that out, they're bullshitters. Oh, we've been working on it for months. He only wants Man United. Complete and utter horseshit, right? The reality is today. The reality is that United are going to have to overpay and pay him good wages to get this deal done. And if we do, hallelujah, we finally woken up and got into the transfer market because that's what you have to do. And what I'd add to that is I don't mind United having a transfer policy that I disagree with or you disagree with if it works.

12:42So if Wilcox and co say, we're not going to overpay, we're not going to overpay on wages and we're not going to buy people over 26 and we'll win the league. And I look at it and go, well, to be fair, he did do that at Southampton. he did do that at Man City you know he is one of the best director of footballs in the world and if Sir Jim Radcliffe said that and he'd done it with Nice I'd go well look he's done it with Nice and if Barada had done it before and look Man City alright he was at Man City but I don't think he was a huge part of Man City and they had a very different transfer policy the policy that they're trying to implement about structure and limits has no experience to it not one United fan can go that works and I don't think it does work and I don't think you think it works I don't think you think we can win the league by having a wage limit of 200 grand a week and a transfer budget of 80 million pounds.

13:29And, you know, you can't buy anyone over 26. I don't think anyone thinks that's going to win as a title. The club probably do, but there's nobody with any. Jason Wilcox doesn't know whether that's going to work. Berardo doesn't know whether it's going to work. So Jim Radcliffe doesn't know whether it's going to work. And the Glazers don't know whether it's going to work. We have a policy that no one trusts. If we're breaking that down this morning and saying we've got to break it down. Great. Great. And the most important thing is, if we do break it down, Mateus Fernandes needs to be an absolute surefire hit so we can go, well, look, you decided to pay 80 million pounds.

14:02You decided to pay big wages to get this player and look what happened. So look, I think it's going to be very, very interesting around Mateus Fernandes. And I am encouraged this morning because it's proper updates from proper journalists with credibility saying that United are still in the race and look like they're going to challenge Spurs. Spurs are paying stupid money for Mateus Fernandes. Let's not be unfair here. He's a£60 million player who's worth£150 ,000 a week. Someone's going to bid 80 and give him 200. It's too much money, but beggars can't be choosers. Sometimes it's worth spending a little bit more to get the player that you want.

14:42Let me just catch up on a couple of Super Chats, then we're going to talk about the Agate injury and what that means for a third midfielder, which is separate to this, but still very, very big. No excuses now. They have to get the third midfielder. Agate is out for nine months. If they don't, it's a nail in the coffees for the season, says Arshen. First, speedy recovery to Agate. No one wishes that on anyone. Second, United should have been taking this transfer window seriously from the start. We are playing catch-up, Emily, yeah. Seeing Bayern got Brown and Sabari for€110 million already makes this Fernandes deal look like a song and a dance.

15:12This should have been decided weeks ago, says Dennis. And I don't see the balance with Maynou and Fernandes. I don't. I don't. I really don't, Jacob. I don't. Unfortunately, it's the wrong player, says Dan Davey. And what are the chances? Moura being a target from Mexico, says Brandon. This Moura is, I think he's like 17. He's going to be the next big thing out of Mexico. I'd love Manchester United to have a Mexican player. They love their football over there. We had Chikorito. I'd love us to do that, but I've not heard anything about it. And to be honest, he's the sort of player that's going to play for Man City.

15:45I mean, I don't know whether you saw it last night, he was being linked to Man City and Bouadi is now being linked to Man City. And I'm just sort of like, Man City are... I don't like Man City. And I think a lot of people want them to get found guilty. But one thing I will always say about Man City is, if you are a fan of Man City, it must be great because you know your club are going to go and get you the players nine times out of 10. You know, Bouadi, yeah, let's go and get him. Anderson, let's go and get him. Erling Haaland, let's go and get him. Semenyu, let's go and get him. I don't know how we're meant to compete with that if it continues.

16:22If Man City don't get... We're basically hoping the Premier League win that case because if we don't, if they don't, what's going to stop Man City? They're already miles ahead of us and they just keep buying better than us, don't they? But look, in relation to Agathe, let's just deal with the facts first, right? Manchester United, through multiple journalists over the last two months, have made it very clear that they want three midfielders if they can move Agathe on. That has been written by many a journalist and you can go and find it yourself. We've covered it here numerous times. Man United want three midfielders, but Agate needs to go.

17:04Does that mean we're down to two? If Agate is not going, does that mean we're down to two? Now, logically, any football club would go, well, you're sat in the boardroom. The director of football puts his hand up and says, am I buying three midfielders or am I buying two, considering Agate is injured? And the guy in charge goes, you're buying three because Agate's out for the season. And that leaves us with three first team midfielders once we bought Fernandes. Maynou, Fernandes, Edison. It's not enough. So you are buying three midfielders because Agate's injured. That's the logical thing. Agate's injury doesn't change anything.

17:42We still buy three midfielders. And that's what I'm hoping is going to happen. Unfortunately, this is Manchester United and we like sell to buy. Ironically, with Agathe himself, we didn't bring him in until late August, despite wanting him and having him lined up for two months until we'd sold McTominay. Agathe happened so late in that window because we were waiting to sell McTominay, create the space for Agathe. It's a strange way of running a football club, but that's what United do. And this summer, that was the plan. You remove Agathe and you replace him with the third midfielder. So United could say, we're not getting a third midfielder because Agathe's not going.

18:26Now, Michael Carrick and Wilcox would then say, but he's not available. Well, that's not the deal The deal was remove Agathe, remove his wages And replace him with a third midfielder Injured or not, we're still paying his wages There is no wage for a third midfielder And wages are more important than transfer fees at Man United Trust me, wages are more important Maybe we could have paid£116 million for Elliot Anderson But we were never going to pay£300 ,000 a week Maybe we could pay£90 million for Tonali but we were never going to pay 250 grand a week. Maybe we could pay 60 million for Bruno Gimérez, but we were never going to pay 250 grand a week.

19:06We are going to be paying Agathe 125 grand a week to be injured. United may well say we're not replacing Agathe while we're still paying him. I don't have the answer to that. I don't have the answer to that. I think it's very much what you think is going to happen. Logically, he's out injured for the season. we need to replace him. With this board, we're not replacing him because we're not going to pay a wage for someone to replace him. I think we will replace him with somebody very cheap. That could be a youth player. That could be a loan. That could be a really cheap transfer. So I think that might be what we would do.

19:51And also, we'd already heard that anyway. We'd already heard this week if we get Mateus Fernandes, United would like to buy a third cheap midfielder. So I've always been working to the reality, my reality, that Edison was the cheap midfielder, Mateus Fernandes was the second midfielder, and Chiamini would be the third midfielder. I think what we're working to is Edison's the midfielder, mid midfielder, Fernandes would be the marquee signing, and we'll get some cheap third midfielder. That's what I think will happen. Who that cheap third midfielder would be, because I don't know who's cheap in this market.

20:24I mean, people say Tyler Adams, but Bournemouth would probably want 50 million in this market. That's not cheap. Are there any cheap midfielders out there? Somebody was saying Goretzka are free. That won't work because he's free and his wage will be huge. So I don't know who we would go for in relation to a third midfielder, but I would imagine they'll be cheap. Jason says FIFA will cover Agate's wage. Well, look, if that's the case, and I suppose it makes sense because it's the World Cup, yes, that may lead us to there. But I still think it will be a cheap third midfielder, Jason. I don't think it's because he's still a Man United player in a year's time, isn't he?

21:09He might be back at Christmas. I just think that they have to buy a third midfielder. I just think it will be somebody cheap. Hayden Hackney, maybe someone like that. Yeah. But that's not good enough. That's not good enough. I don't think Edison's good enough to be the second midfielder. I don't think Mateus Fernandes is good enough to be the marquee signing. And I don't think, I mean, if you're saying to me, our midfield four next season is Maynou, Fernandes, Edison and Hackney, I think our midfield is really weak again on paper. Might be wrong, might work really well, but I think Maynou, Edison, Fernandes and Hackney doesn't really make me confident for next season.

21:52There's a lot of if, buts and maybes in there, you know? So we'll have to wait and see. But United will be reeling this morning from that because it will mess up their plans. And also, they'll be reeling because of what they're going to do about this Fernandes deal. Going back to the Fernandes deal, I'm actually more encouraged than, you know, I feel more positive than negative about it because we're still in the race and everybody who's talking about the race is saying to win the race, you've got to spend big. I know some of you don't like spending big, but I was talking about this on That's Football last night.

22:30Somebody was saying, would you pay 300 grand a week for Elliot Anderson? And I'm like, why wouldn't you? Wow, it's too much. Who are you? I'm a Man United fan. Why are you saying it's too much to pay wages for a player that we want? Wow, it's just silly. yeah but wages football wages are silly anyway even someone getting 100 grand a week is silly why are you bothered about 300 grand a week it's just too much oh are you are you are you Omar Barada are you no I'm just a fan why are you a fan of Man United but you worry about wages never used to happen 20 years ago it was never a conversation when we signed Van Nistelrooy no one ever went oh wages might be a bit much or Rooney or Ferdinand or Cole we never went oh wages wages it's a new thing it's an illness it's an illness in the fan base to talk about wages.

23:19It's a Glazer plan. You are basically applauding our owners for not spending money. When you say, I wouldn't give Elliot Anderson 300 grand a week or I wouldn't give Tonali 250 grand a week, you're basically a mug because last season, the Glazers bumped the prices up for tickets when we weren't even in Europe. They made you pay more for shit and then you applaud them for paying less for shit. We should be demanding that we pay the wages that Man City pay. We should be demanding that we pay the wages that Arsenal pay. Liverpool paid Gakpo 260 grand a week. We don't want to pay anyone 200 grand a week.

23:59I want Man United to pay big wages for good players. What I don't want is to give 400 grand a week to Alexi Sanchez when he's a bag of shite. What I don't want is to give 250 grand a week to Mason Mount. That's the mistake. I don't want to pay big wages for shit. I want to pay big wages for big players. but you know i just don't want to pay big wages at all and some of our fans want to applaud it which i find hilarious considering the glazers rip you off every single day and you're applauding them for not spending money um if you want to win the league you better start demanding we pay big wages if you don't want to win the league and you want to be irrelevant keep applauding man united being tight because we won't win anything with this policy that we've got which is why i'm excited this morning because if we're going to break our own rules to get Fernandes, we're going to have to pay him big wages and give West Ham a big fee.

24:50And I'll applaud that because I might not think Mateus Fernandes is the right player and I don't. But if they think he's the right player, I'll applaud them spending what it takes to get what they want. If they think he's the guy, spend the money. If you get it wrong, you'll get the blame. But if they think he's the guy, go and get him. I like Mateus Fernandes. Personally, if it's him or Chumini, it's Chumini. If it's him or Tonali, it's Tonali. And they are available. If we're getting him and Chumini, great. I don't know. I don't necessarily think we are. I think Mateus Fernandes is the Cousamiro replacement.

25:31Worries me. But maybe that Chumini deal will happen as well. Why don't you think he's the guy? I think it's not even his fault. I don't think a player that was good for West Ham who got relegated is necessarily the guy to come in and replace Casemiro at Man United when we're going to try and win the league and do well in the Champions League. Not my words, the words of Barada. I also think he's young and we don't develop talent very well. And I think it's a huge ask to put him in a midfield with Manu and say, go and be successful. I'd be much happier with a Bruno Gomérez a Cermini or a Tonali because I think they're more proven than him but I'll back him I think he's a good player but I've always been honest with you I'd rather sign Scott anyway I know that's a minority view but I prefer I prefer Alex Scott as a player to Fernandes I just prefer the profile of him I prefer I just prefer Alex Scott anyway but there's not a lot between it and I'm not in any way shape or form saying don't sign Mateus Fernandes.

26:34I'm actually saying go and sign him. He's a good player. He's an exciting player. And if he's the player that the club wants, we should overpay. Absolutely. I just would prefer a more experienced Casemiro replacement. And I actually would slightly prefer Alex Scott as well. But, you know, it's not, I would say to the club, go and break the bank. I want the club to go and get plan A. And it feels to me that Mateus Fernandes, to Carrick and Wilcox and Barada is their priority today. I don't think it was a month ago, to be honest. I don't think it was. I think Elliot Anderson was the priority. I think maybe Tonali was more of a priority.

27:14Maybe Bruno Gomes was more of a priority, but they were too expensive. So as of today, I think Mateus Fernandes is Man United's priority. Go and get him. Go and get him. Do you think he will sign for Man United, Mark? I've always had a hunch that he would. I don't have any information on it and I'm not going to pretend that I do. I've always had a hunch that they would. I think the updates today, you've got to sort of go through history and go, did we win these battles with these updates in the past? And AI is never going to help you with this because it's a human brain that does it. How many battles have Man United won in a head-to-head where a decision's about to be made and we're still very much in the race fighting?

27:59How many times have we won those battles? We've won quite a few, to be fair. So I think we will win it. I think we're going to overpay. I think we're going to give him a big wage. I don't mind that if it's the player they want. So I think we probably will win it. But Spurs are there. And the other side of the coin is when Romano said he's opened the door to both clubs. that doesn't need to be said unless it's true you could say he prefers a move to man united because of the champions league but will join spurs if man united don't put a bid in that west ham accepts you could get that update and i wouldn't mind that update but the update was he's opened the door to both and it's about who pays the most money so let's see do you think spurs could be a red herring to get the price up says garfield i don't think spurs and west ham have that type of relationship.

28:55I mean, they were literally up against each other two months ago trying to get each other relegated. So I don't think Spurs and West Ham have any loyalty to each other to help, you know, screw United. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's the Mati Fernandes screw job for Man United. No, I think there's a genuine appetite. And look, there's no guarantee that Spurs are going to get Tenali. They could end up being like Newcastle bidding for players and missing out so um yeah yeah um we've already done the wages covered by fifa slow sports news in the chat there um yeah fifa probably do cover the wages because it was an injury in the world cup but that doesn't change much for united um as a player we've already heard before the injury that the third midfielder will be a cheap one so the question is who's that going to be um which is why it's really important that united are moving today on mateos fernandez and getting it done and i don't think they will be relaxed anymore i think that's a good thing uh we backed ourselves into a corner with fernandez a big club club would have negotiated with multiple top midfielders to gain leverage as john yeah i mean look at you know you only have to it's a great point from john you only look i think that honestly we're not very good at transfers.

30:19We're not. We want to believe that we are, but we're not. I think we believe we are, not we. I think the club think they're good at what they do. They're not. And John is right. A decent football club would do what Arsenal did last year. That's power. You line Jokeres and Sesko up. They both want to come. You play one against the other. You play one club against the other and you end up with a really good deal on the player that you go for. And Arsenal genuinely were looking at Sesco. They really liked Sesco. They just went with the Ocarez. Whether that's the right choice or not, it doesn't matter.

30:51They used both those deals as leverage against each other and it worked. We should have done that. We should have moved two players against each other. What we've actually ended up doing is going all in on Mateus Fernandes, thinking we'd get him cheap and he'd go all in on us. You've now got Mateus Fernandes sat there going, is it Spurs? is it Man United? I can't decide. It's what you pay for me. And United are going head to head with Spurs and Mateus Fernandes is the prize. If we'd have had someone else lined up, like maybe Alex Scott or whoever, that might have made Mateus Fernandes get a little bit nervous and go, oh, I don't like the fact they're going for him.

31:29Push for Man United a little bit more. But we haven't done that. Tom McBride says, I'm confident we'll get Chimini now. He's opened the door for us and we have a good relationship with Madrid. Surely we don't mess this one up. well it's not about now Tom I told you two months ago that Chiumini had opened the door to Man United the talks with his agent took place in March nothing has actually changed with Chiumini in the sense that he's still a Real Madrid player and if they want to keep him he will stay if they want to sell him which I think they will he's happy to come to Man United but then we would have to agree a fee and wages now what I'm hoping is going to happen is we close off Mateus Fernandes this weekend and then Real Madrid opened the door to Chiumini in July and we go, fuck it, let's do it.

32:12I'm still hopeful that can happen and there's no reason why it can't, but it's going to come down to budgets, isn't it? Watchers end up with Ruben Loftus cheeks, says Craig, and I'd rather spend£100 million on two elite players at left back and in the midfield than get three players who cost£70 million each. Go all out for Tonali and Chiamini, says Enchanted. Angle. Should Maynew be risked now, says Tyron? Risked for what? Don't know what that means. All jokes aside, I think they want Belayba to sit back, so Agate and Maynou push forward. I don't think they were ever selling Agate. Kiel, that's the wildest comment you've ever made.

32:49Agate pushed forward with Belayba behind him. What are you talking about? In Ecuadorian media, I keep hearing Man United wants Pedro Vite, says Elks, and we're not hearing it here. What are the chances? I've done that one about Moura. I have hope for a good window because they had a better window than the Glazers last year. Nothing else positive has come from his new ownership, this new ownership says Raj and you seem more concerned with the midfield rather than Agate's well-being where's your humanity marks as noodles um you know what Emily said it right at the start of the show um I don't feel the need to repeat it um it's a football channel um Man United's my priority Agate needs to be sold he's had an injury to his knee of course it's obvious that you know everybody wants him to recover but football's ruthless mate people get injured um Man United's midfield next season is the priority.

33:41I can't do anything about Agathe's injury. It's happened. We didn't wish it on him. It's a horrible thing to happen, as I've said before. Yeah, the priority is Man United's midfield, mate. Agathe's recovery will take as long as it's going to take. The situation is the situation. The whole point of crisis management is to deal with the crisis. And the crisis United have is the season starts in a few weeks. We need to rebuild our midfield. Obviously, Agate, I hope the injury isn't that bad and I hope we get rid of him. Simple as that. His injury doesn't change my opinion that, oh, he's had an injury.

34:15Let's hope he can get better and have another chance. It's football. It's ruthless. I say the same about Mason Mount. I wish we could get rid of him. Unlucky with a number of injuries, but Man United comes first. He's a dead weight. Luke Shaw's the same. We backed ourselves into a corner with Fernandes says John we've done that one thank you very much and Muzza says if I'm Carrick we'll ask Man United board to get Sangari first before anyone else it's an interesting story ultimately he's a very wealthy athlete with a sports injury he hasn't been shot mate it's his big iron yeah I mean look let's be fair some people it's a community some people will be belling because Agate is injured you know crying you know poor Agate poor Agate that's the world we live in you know we see it time and time again where people you know react to things that we maybe wouldn't react to in that way that's absolutely fine um it's also fine for some of us to say he's already injured me it's not like we two-footed him he's injured it's a bad injury it's going to take as long as it takes we need to move on i would say the same if marcus rashford got injured for England tonight.

35:31We're back. Back. It's odd it keeps doing it. I don't know why it keeps doing that. Twice that's happened on a United stand show, but it never happens on That's Football.

35:47Let it settle. Might be the heat. Might be the heat. Let me just go through some of your comments. Might be the computer overheating. yeah that's probably not a bad shout still very hot yeah need to get a fan on that computer um

36:12what what one one one thing that's very very important and i don't know where the top top player is referring to this but if you do not believe in man united's ridiculous wage policy you have to because United, the reason United do not want to drop 200 grand a week on Fernandes or Alex Scott or any other midfielder is because one, it's cheap. But two, if they don't offer, if they bring Mateus Fernandes into that midfield on 200 grand a week, the very next day, Maynews agents knocking on the door going, hold on a minute, hold on a minute. Mateus Fernandes is better than Cobby then. No, no, no, no, no.

36:59Well, he never kicked a ball from Man United and he walks in on 200 grand a week. We've just negotiated a contract on 150. And this is what I mean. They've played a very clever game getting Maynews' wage low. But it also means everybody we buy has to go on a low wage as well because they'll break their own wage structure. And they'll be having that conversation with every midfielder going, we'd love to give you 200 grand a week, but Maynews on 150 and, you know, he's a starter for us and we can't break our wage structure. So that is something that doesn't get mentioned enough. You can't go out and give 200, 250 grand a week to midfield signings unless they are elite, which we don't want to pay for, by the way.

37:47our wage structure is sort of fucked in a sense because Manu's wage is no more than 150 grand a week so United will be going well we can't pay any more than that because it upsets Manu which is right so we only want players who want to play for United Fernandes has said he's open to both clubs United cherry pick when to use those lines says Craig mate this is the exciting thing this morning just before I leave you this is the exciting thing this morning what I'm hearing from Romano and other outlets that United are still in the race and they're willing to up the wages and they're willing to compete goes completely against what we know we only go for players that want us we don't do bidding wars we don't want to pay over 150 grand a week in wages and we don't want to pay over 80 million pounds in transfer fees I think to get Mateus Fernandes you're probably going to have to pay 80 you're going to have to pay over 150 grand a week we're going to have to get in a bidding war and we'll have to go for a player that's open to buying somebody else.

38:42That would excite me. I think getting this deal done could be symbolic because it takes us away from these stupid parameters that we have in place. The cheap midfielder cannot be a panic buy from whatever is available. It costs more in the long run and sinks us on the field at the same time, says Emily. Thank you very much. Okay, that will do for now. I just wanted to keep this morning show to those two stories, by the way, the Fernandes stuff and the Agate stuff. I think many times we cover a lot of things on the morning show and we are back tonight at eight o 'clock it's an eight o 'clock show tonight because england don't kick off till 10 and there is no earlier world cup game so we are back live at eight o 'clock um but yeah i wanted to just focus in on those two topics because i think the ramifications of the both are really really big uh thank you uh there's a bit of wharton breaking news oh god and the cycle continues We had Lewis Hall yesterday

39:43I can't see anything about Wharton Yeah, I can't see anything about Wharton But honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we're back in for Wharton because it's part of the cycle of players. If we're still a next, still a Hatton-y, you know, the same old players. Yeah. Right. Thanks for watching. Please do subscribe to the channel. Smash a like on the video. I will speak to you at eight o 'clock, if not before. I mean, I'd love to be talking to you before to say, here we go, Man United, Fernandes. But we'll have to wait and see. Speak to you in a bit.

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Mark Goldbridge has the latest Man Utd Transfer News as Manuel Ugarte suffers a huge injury setback at the World Cup and INEOS prepare to break their own rules to sign Mateus Fernandes.

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