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0:48Plus, check out our weekly flyer on menards.com for all the great deals happening now. Save big money at Menards. Hello everybody, good morning. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United transfer news. The start of a new week. How will it end? Will it end with Man United signing any players? Will it end with Man United standing still? Well, look, there is the threat that we will walk away. That's coming in this morning. An article in The Times where The Times journalist has reacted to that article, not very happy about some of the aggregators. But to be fair, it does say we'll walk away if they want£80 million.

1:30Well, that's how I interpreted it anyway. Is that a transfer warning to Mateus Fernandes? We've seen Diamande come out before leaving RB Leipzig, saying that he wants to go to PSG. Is that what Man United want from Mateus Fernandes? come out and say you want to come to our club so we can drive the price down. Otherwise, we're not going to pay£2 million. We've also been linked to Boadi. We'll delve into that. There's more stuff around Choumini as well. And Fabrizio Romano saying that Manchester United will not be letting Ahmad leave at any price. Is that news or is it an indicator of the issues that United have?

2:05Because I would sell Ahmad at any price. I don't think he's untouchable, but I wouldn't sell Ahmad if that makes sense. We'll delve into that as well. Lots to get into this morning. Hope you're all doing well. Big week in the World Cup as well. God, that game last night was shite, wasn't it? But some big games tonight. We are on at eight o 'clock tonight, actually, because we fit perfectly after, well, unless Brazil, Japan goes to extra time, but France doesn't kick off till 10. So we'll be alive. We'll be alive, hopefully. We'll be alive sometime between eight and nine, regardless. Lots to get into this morning.

2:37So let's start off. So basically what happened is, And I need to just find this so I get it absolutely accurate here. So there was an article in The Times yesterday which was predominantly about Ugarte. But it said that it basically said that Manchester United do not want to pay 80 million pounds for Matias Fernandes. and a lot of aggregators basically took that and said, you know, Man United won't pay£80 million for Fernandes and the indication from that was that, you know, Man United would walk away. It was Paul Hurst in The Times that wrote it and he actually replied to some of the on X saying it was a sentence at the end of an article about Agathe, you know, I basically get fed up of these aggregators taking one bit and making it bigger than it is.

3:36But when you read the article, it does say, you know, David Ornstein's article was about Agathe yesterday and it said Man United are likely to sign several midfielders. You know, that wasn't the article's point, but it was in the article. Don't put it in the article if you don't want people to pick it up. Yes, aggregators can sometimes get it wrong. But if you put it in an article and your article is not that interesting and that's the most interesting bit, you might not think it's that interesting at the bottom of the article, but some people might go, that's the only bit I'm interested in. So Man United refusing to pay£80 million for Mateus Fernandes.

4:08Well, what we're basically saying is if Spurs do pay£80 million for Mateus Fernandes, Man United won't pay£80 million for Mateus Fernandes and therefore we won't get the player. So does that mean we'll walk away? That's basically what people picked out of that. Because to be honest with you, the Agate story on a human level is obviously very sad because he's injured. But from a Man United transfer level, oh, Agate, Agate injured, Agate injured. Man United will walk away. Man United won't pay£2 million for Mateus Fernandes. Well, that's the most interesting bit. So I think, look, I think tensions are running high.

4:45And I'm not talking about the fan base. I think tensions are running high in the journalistic world. And they have been for probably two or three years because these people go to university and study and, you know, work their way up in newspapers, traditional outlets. and they're seeing that that will die in front of them for people like Fabrizio Romano, who just goes live on YouTube and tweets stuff and goes, here we go. So, you know, there's a lot of tension in the modern journalistic world. And I don't think they like the fact that they can write a big article and someone takes a sentence that wasn't the piece that they wanted to talk about.

5:18But this is the world we live in. Swipe left, swipe right, TikTok. You know, people take what they need and they go on their way. And the most interesting thing to United fans at the moment is not Manu Alagate's injury. It's about who we're going to sign in the midfield. And I think that if Manchester United are unwilling to pay£80 million for Mateus Fernandes, then as a fan, you look at that and go, well, are we walking away then? And the great thing about modern football journalism and media and social media is that we don't have to sit there and talk about it on our own. We can talk about it collectively.

5:53If we're not going to pay£2 million for Mateus Fernandes, are we going to shift towards Boadi who we've been linked to and I'll talk about in a minute are we going to shift towards Chumini who we have been heavily linked to for a long time now so I think that it's a big week for Manchester United as I said we hit July the 1st on Wednesday yeah Wednesday so that's the start of a new financial year that's the traditional time there's a if you look at Man United throughout the last 10 years traditionally we buy a lot of players between the 1st of July and the 10th of July. So this is a big week for Manchester United.

6:28And are we going to get Mateus Fernandes? And if we're not going to pay£8 million, and look, I'm sure Tottenham are aware of social media as much as we are. If I'm Tottenham, I'm offering£80 million. If Man United are unwilling to pay£80 million, and they're stupid for that to be put out there, by the way, then if I'm Tottenham, I'm offering£80 million.

6:54and there's a lot of shocked faces in the chat but i mean is that not what man city did when they started out you know when man city was shit and then they got the money they didn't walk into deals that we were doing and go oh you want that player for 50 million we'll give 50 million they give they pay more so i think that if you're tottenham and you're ambitious and you want Mateus Fernandes to be in a Tottenham shirt for the next two, three years, you pay£80 million. Because at the end of the day,£15 million is nothing over three years. It's nothing. It's absolutely nothing. So look, I think with Mateus Fernandes, before we move on to something a little bit more new, if I'm Tottenham, I'll offer the£80 million now.

7:40I do. If I know Man United won't go there, I'll offer it. That's what I'll do. Because I've got to be a little bit more... I'm of the opinion that if you're in a race and somebody's further ahead of you and somebody says, I can put the same fuel in your car as their car, or you can go for this fuel that has the potential to make you go quicker than them, but it's more expensive. What did they buy? Yeah, they bought the normal fuel. Yeah, I'll buy the normal fuel. It won't make you quicker. I know, but if you buy this other fuel, it's a bit more expensive, but it'll make you go quicker. That's what Spurs need to do.

8:16Spurs need to pay a little bit more than the people they're trying to catch so that they can catch them. And we have tried to do that in the past. But look, what I would say is on a positive is that when you look at the Jan Diamande updates last night that came out, that he's basically chosen PSG over Liverpool. And can I just say, I saw someone this morning saying, I'll tell you what, actually, I'll tell you what. I saw someone this morning saying you can't criticise Man United if they walk away from Fernandes or they miss out on Fernandes when Liverpool are missing out on Yandere Monde. Basically trying to defend our board by saying, look, you know, people moan too much.

8:57You know, we're missing out on, we might miss out on Mateus Fernandes and Liverpool missed out on Yandere Monde. There's a very big difference there between Yandere Monde and Mateus Fernandes anyway. in the fact that Liverpool are in a bidding war with PSG, the best team in the world, and we're in a bidding war with Spurs, who nearly got relegated. But on top of that, Liverpool actually did put an official bid in of 100 million euros package. We've not even bid on Mateus Fernandes. So there's a big difference between trying to say we're the same as Liverpool and the Diamande deal with Mateus Fernandes.

9:26But what I did like about that deal and what could be good for us is if Liverpool can be rejected like that for putting a bid in, then because Diamande has made it public that he wants to go to PSG, no deal has been done with PSG and Leipzig. So for United, yes, Spurs might want Mateus Fernandes, but if he was to come out and publicly say, I want to go to Manchester United, we would then get a really good opportunity to negotiate with West Ham. because what we're what what man united are basically saying to west ham is we want matez fernandez but we're not paying your 80 million pound price tag we think it's unreasonable so you know that that could happen to us there's no indication that's going to happen and to be fair if you go back to the update yesterday morning romano said he's open to going to both so yeah we'll see sorry there's an idiot in the chat here let me get rid of people thank you it's just it's so easy you just you don't acknowledge them you just go Like that It's trying to do It's trying to do more than one Oh mate You know you keep typing All it comes up is You've been blocked on my screen Unlucky mate Unlucky I'm not even going to shout your name out either Cheerio Cheerio Cheerio One voice Singing in the darkness That's all you're doing mate You're in an empty room Typing away Bye bye Good morning from Canada Mark Look, our board is too incompetent to do anything that makes sense.

11:03So Jim said, we almost went broke if it weren't for Ineos. Not surprised we're acting cheap. And we won't buy Tenali because of his wages. But Ben Jacobs said we would be happy to make Chumini one of our top earners. Doesn't make sense as Acid2335. Well, let's talk about Chumini and let's talk about Boadi. So in relation to Chumini, thank you very much for your super chat this morning, Acid. If anyone wants to put super chats in, we will read them on the morning show. They never get missed. it's not like a watch along where it's chaotic so what is happening oh my god someone just said have you seen this where's this come from ok this is a strange one I've just been sent this it's on Deadline Day Live on X who have 3 million followers right now there are a lot of these out there there was one this morning where I can't remember what the name of the account was.

12:00Let's say it's Man United News or something like that. No, it wouldn't be that because that would be taken. Anyway, it was basically saying West Ham have made a decision to sell Mateus Fernandes to West Ham as part of a swap deal for Regate by David Orstein. No N in it. It's just somebody having a laugh. So there's a lot of that stuff out there, and I thought this was one. So this came out about 20 minutes ago on Transfer New Lives, transfer news live not lies it quotes for britzio romano and tags him in and it is the real for britzio romano so i think this has come legit i just hadn't seen this liverpool have made an initial inquiry for matez fernandez after contacting the midfielders representatives to understand the conditions of a potential summer move the reds have not advanced their interest beyond initial talks for magnan and tottenham currently leading the race west ham want around 80 million pounds i don't know how old that news is i don't know whether that's new news I mean you probably know more than me but apparently Romano has said something about Liverpool looking at Mateus Fernandes which is interesting I suppose look you know to be honest I have heard that West Ham may not be in a rush West Ham may wait wait the market out I think West Ham I know somebody who knows somebody who is pretty good around West Ham and they were saying that this cash injection, to be honest, Ben Jacobs has said it.

13:25Because people are going, oh, bullshit, man. I'll use Ben Jacobs because he has said it anyway. Ben Jacobs did say that West Ham, now let me be careful because I know what I was told by that person, but let me think, Ben Jacobs said. Yeah, Ben Jacobs said that West Ham were not in a rush to sell because they've had a cash injection from this new owner. now I think what that means is is that if they didn't have that cash injection at the end of this financial year they might have needed to do something before tomorrow to balance the books but because they've had the cash injection they don't need to do that before the end of this financial year so effectively they don't need to sell Mateus Fernandez before the end of the financial year so once we hit July the 1st well they can sell him on August the 1st so I think that in a way and I have I've alluded to this myself they may well look at it and go well let's hang about a little bit because if Boadi and Anderson go to Man City and you know somebody goes to and Enzo Fernandes goes to Real Madrid the midfield transfer market might end up with too many clubs needing midfielders and not enough quality midfielders out there which could bump the price up a little bit more on Mateus Fernandes, it could make other people enter the race.

14:51Remember, we're dealing with George Mendes and West Ham, right? This is good for Bournemouth as well with Alex Scott. If they're not in a rush and he's a good player, then this could go for a while. This could go on for a long time because they know they've got a player that people are interested in and they can just keep pushing that price up. But this is the thing I said over the weekend as well. People go, lots of people in the chat saying walk away. Wherever you walk, you walk into the same problem. Hello, Bournemouth. Can we have Alex Scott for£60 million? No, it's£75 million starting price.

15:34And if it's a bidding war, it could go even higher. Oh God. Hello, is that is that Real Madrid? Can we have Chumini? He would like to come to us. You can, but there's other clubs interested and we're starting the bidding at£75 million. Oh, God. Okay. Balaba, Brighton, can we have Balaba? Of course you can. No one wants in. But no, seriously, I think it will impact us on a lot of deals. Levi says, I hope I'm wrong, but if we don't act like a club soon, we're going to be like Spurs less seasoned, says Levi. Yeah, I mean, I worry about I worry about Carrick anyway and I definitely worry about Carrick if he's not going to be helped I mean I would say you know Michael Carrick going into battle next season with Man United he needs the best equipment you know he needs the best equipment if we don't send him into battle without the best equipment I don't know whether we can trust him to be you know I don't think he's you know are his battle tactics as good as they need to be anyway You know, I think he's going to be learning a lot next season.

16:40Mohamed says, what about Chumini? OK, let's talk. Right. So there are some updates again. Spanish predominantly, but Real Madrid is in Spain. So that's a good thing. Loads of updates coming in on him this morning. We will start off with, where's that Boadi story? I want to talk about that as well. OK, yeah, we'll come back to that. It's quite a good source on the Boadi story. But Chumini, I think, is more realistic. so I'm just going to summarise numerous Real Madrid sources talking about Ciamini over the last few days so confirmed Real Madrid now a big midfield signing would exceed 100 million euros making a sale necessary Valverde Ciamini and Camavinga are names for potential sales so Real Madrid want to make a big summer signing in the midfield it's going to be in excess of 100 million euros they need to make a sale apparently there's not a massive amount of interest in Camavinga at 60 million.

17:35Valverde is a player that they would like to keep. Ciumini is the one that, you know, I think they can make their money from. Also from Sport, a possible departure from Real Madrid for Ciumini linked to Man United is an option that is gaining more and more strength. And also another outlet in Spain basically saying that Ciumini is the player that Real Madrid know they can sell for a decent price to fund another midfielder. So look, I think that it's not like I feel what you mean. is. Save big on your next project at Menards. Check out our huge selection of Richmond water heaters. Whether it's electric or gas, tank or tankless, Menards has what you need in stock.

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19:02That pride of culture you have inside on every wall of your home. Available at Lowe's. I don't want to be repetitive in the sense that I know from people close to that player that United have held talks and he would be interested in coming to Manchester United. That was backed up by Andy Mitten last week. We're getting a lot of stuff over in Spain about him. so I would say that the simplest way of explaining the Chumini deal is it's not like we should go and sign Stilla and there's not a lot happening there or you know Alex Scott who you know is a potential option if we don't get Mateus Fernandes I think with Chumini it's a really simple situation he is a player that Man United can get and he is a player that Real Madrid will sell so you're halfway there you know you're halfway there um essentially the two things that need to happen is Real Madrid need to buy a midfielder and then Man United need to offer Real Madrid the money and then we'll get him um because the wages aren't going to be silly and going back to that previous point about why Man United won't pay the wages for Tonali but they will pay the wages for Chumini when you look at those two players, I sort of get it.

20:19Man United is a business and they're going to look at risk. They don't like the gambling issues of Tonali. Let's be honest, that's been put out by journalists close to United three times in the last three months. Chumini also is coming in from Real Madrid as a more defensive midfielder, whereas Tonali, I think he can do that job, but it's probably a little bit more box to box. So look, I like Tonali. I'd like United to sign Tonali. I'd probably take Tonali over Chumini, but there's something about United that's holding them back. He's also more expensive, actually. He's also probably going to be more expensive.

20:56I personally think the price of Chumini is going to be about 70 million, whereas the price of Tonali is probably going to be more like 90 to 100. So yeah, I think that's probably why we're not going for Tonali. But look, Trumini is going to cost you a maximum 250 grand a week. United can try and get their wage bill down. But, you know, Marcus Rashford could be coming back. He's going to be on 325. Bruno's on 300. Mason Mount's on 250. So, you know, what does that tell me? We are willing to pay over 250 grand a week and we're doing it for the wrong player. So I definitely think it could happen.

21:39the big issue with Giomini as we've said many times before is going to be the how how how quickly it can get done essentially how quickly that deal can get done now the Boadi story which is the one I'm most excited about this morning because I didn't really expect it and I certainly don't think we'll do anything with it it was Manchester City that was leading that race no doubt about it but Fabrice excuse me Fabrice Hawkins who is a French journalist and you should know the name because we've we've had stories from him in the past over the years so basically he is saying that Bouadi is being followed by Manchester United Manchester City Arsenal and Bayern Munich in case of a departure Lille prefer a sale with a one year loan so that they can continue his development at the club.

22:35Lille's president is demanding between 80 and 100 million euros. So look, on the one hand, it's positive. And on the other hand, you sort of know we won't do anything about it. But look, it says Man United are in there with Man City, Arsenal and Bayern. But there's three reasons why I won't be getting to it. I mean, I think that credit to Arsenal and Bayern and PSG because they were linked to him before the World Cup. And I'd put my hands up and say, didn't really know a lot about him before the World Cup. I didn't. But seeing him perform in the World Cup, and obviously they're on at 2am tonight against the Netherlands, which I will be watching.

23:15I think he's been, you know, you can see the traits of what will be a very, very good player there. But I would hold my hands up and say, you know, predominantly I'm scouting him on the World Cup, which I hate. I don't like to do that. But having said that, when you hear that Arsenal and PSG have been scouting him for a season, he's clearly a good player. Are Man United seriously in for him? I mean, look, I mean, are we just being thrown in there because we want a midfielder? That's always the worry, I suppose. That could be the case. But the big problem you've got there is that we can't defeat Tottenham in a transfer race.

23:53How that bloody hell are you going to deal with Man City, Arsenal and Bayern? Because Arsenal will pay£100 million for a player they've done it man city will pay 113 million pounds for 116 they've just done it and and by munich are a very you know strong proposition as well so i don't know how i don't even know how man united would would be able to get into a race with man city arsenal buying and psg are interested in him as well and also the fact that lil would prefer a one-year loan so they can keep him for another year wouldn't work with what we want to do and the price of 80 to 100 million euros is not going to work for us anyway so look a lot of people were talking about that bowady story last night and this morning and it is a new show so yes we should bring it in but in my opinion and you can tell me i'm wrong i just think yeah it's great that we're interested in that player um but that there's three components there that make it very difficult and that is that there's three or four top clubs going for him.

24:56Lil would be looking for a loan back for a year, which doesn't work with what we're doing. And the price tag clearly won't work either. Muzza says, don't you think Enmica is the one? I think, and Far Away Beach, I mean, some good questions coming in this morning. Let me just touch on these because they're in the live chat section. Enmica is the one, says the Muzza. I like Enmica. Are Germany playing tonight? Yes, they are. I like Enmica. and, you know, I think he's a really good player. However, I do have concerns about, look, again, as I was saying this morning, you know, sorry, as I was saying a few minutes ago.

25:37Hello, is that Bournemouth? Can we have Alex Scott? Yeah,£80 million. Hello, is that Real Madrid? Can we have Chumini? Yeah,£80 million. Hello, is that Dortmund? Can we have Enmica? Yeah,£80 million. Hello, is that Brighton? Can we have Belaber? Yeah. But the point is that Brighton would still charge us a lot of money. Everybody's going to cost money. And I don't know about you, but as a United fan, I don't like the way we behave. I'm sure the club don't like the United stand. You know, I'm sure they don't like any fan outlet or media outlet or ex-player that calls them out. You know, United would love to have a dictatorship, wouldn't they?

26:14Where what they say, everyone says it's positive. And if they say anything negative, you disappear. I don't mean in a bad way. I mean, like, you know, you get censored and shut up. You know, that's life. But I don't like the way United behave in the transfer market. I don't like the way the Glazers have run the club, but that's life. You know, there's literally nothing we can do about it. But the thing I don't like is I know we can't do deals. I know we can't get Boadi because better clubs who want to spend more money will beat us. And I know that we won't go to Dortmund and pay 80 million pounds for a major.

26:59I don't like that. I think it's very restrictive. You know, I grew up with the United side that would go and do that. And now it's the United side that won't go and do that. It's very problematic. and you know to quote Emily Derry again she said this a couple of days ago what was the plan walking into this window did we not see that this was a possibility I mean it's like going on holiday to Mallorca in June and not packing any sun cream or shorts or sunglasses or hats and you just take big jumpers and jeans and then there's a heat wave you know people might feel sorry for you because you're hot and you're going to get sunburnt.

27:40But what did you think was going to happen in June in New Yorker? You know, the chances were it was going to be hot. And what did Man United think walking into this midfield transfer market and then suddenly the prices have gone up beyond what we want to pay? Yeah, there's a bit of sympathy for us, but ultimately we should have seen it coming. And our unwillingness to spend on our own fantasy you know market value spend beyond that makes it very restrictive at the moment uh there was also a comment about adam wharton um i mean you know look adam wharton i wouldn't rule it out you know it's very quiet around adam wharton it's very quiet around angelo stiller uh obviously wharton's not gone to the world cup the indication is that wharton will either be a later in the deal later in the window deal like sort of august or he'll stay at crystal palace um for another season which is a clever play by Wharton and it's a clever play by Crystal Palace because he will eat you know if you Crystal Palace and you wait towards the end of the window people will be desperate and they'll pay more money and if it doesn't happen you get to keep him and he's not 23 until next February so he can probably afford to you know wait another year as well and play regularly so i think with watson it's yeah it's not it's not something that people looking at right now uh where we sorry um so yeah on bowady i would sign him i do like him but i don't think we've got uh anything to get excited about there at the moment i certainly don't think we're going to pivot from mateos fernandez to bowady um i don't and also i've got to remember this when bowady played that first game for morocco a couple of weeks ago i got in contact with our source at the club and said, where are we at with Bwadi then?

29:36Because he looks perfect. It reminds me of bloody Carrick. So where does he feature in United's data? And I was told United looked at him, but excluded him a long time ago. He never got anywhere near like even the top 10 for Man United in the midfield this summer. So yeah, data Dean cut Bwadi way before the World Cup. which is interesting because, you know, and I've only seen him in the World Cup, but when I look at Bawadi, reminds me a lot of Carrick, the player, in the fact that he's very confident, wants the ball, wants to dictate the game. But United, you know, and to be fair, that might have been on price.

30:18Man United might have gone, yeah, we don't fancy a player from Lille at that age for that price. We want someone more experienced, you know. I've been watching for about a year now says Sadiq and my first super chat hope you're doing well from Australia thank you so much thank you so much for your first super chat Sadiq really appreciate that let us know where you're watching from this morning start of another week always feel a little bit optimistic at the start of a new week you've not been ground down by the repetitive bad news hopefully it's going to be a big week and obviously it's a big week in the World Cup as well which has got me excited we'll be doing a lot of watch-alongs on Mets football but on United the club has spent a lot of PR work on looking to spend 250 to 300 million on players yet they're not looking to compete for signings as Razzler there's a lack of ambition from the board thank you very much sir please do share the video if you're watching by the way thank you very much everybody um god people are telling us people are telling us in their super chats where they're from today which I'm absolutely loving I mean please do keep this coming if you're going to do super chats because we're all very interested in this.

31:25Mr. Way says, I'm, and everyone from the United Stand, I'm in Lyon, France. Do you know how much we've saved not buying last winter and what do you think we can spend this year? I think if you refer to people like Kieran Maguire or even people like Swedish Rumble on X, Man United could comfortably go to£300 million of spending, probably more but what people forget about is that yes man united can spend 300 million pounds or more and not be in trouble with ffp but you've still got to have a you still got to have a board who's got that amount of money you've still got to have a board that wants to do that now we we don't have that if imagine man united having 400 million pounds right and barada says to sir jim and Joel, we can spend all that on players and we wouldn't be in trouble.

32:21And if we spend that 400 million, we probably can compete for the league in the next two years. So Jim and Joel are going to look at each other and go, Omar, you've got 400 million pounds and you want to spend it all on players. Okay, right. There's debt interest, there's this, there's that, there's this so we're very unlikely to spend what we can because we've always got to spend on other things but having said that i think i've always said the midfield is the priority 200 million on that midfield is going to be needed because if edison's 40 and matthews Fernandes is 80 or 70 or whatever, let's say, you know, Mateus Fernandes is 70, that's 110.

33:11Probably going to have to spend another 70 to 80 on Chimini. So I was always thinking somewhere between 150 and 200 million pounds on the midfield. 150 was never going to be enough. No. Jared says, why always slate Ineos? Let me get my book on a thousand reasons to slate Ineos. No, what if we just trust the process and let the board work? Arsenal did and eventually got to where they need to be. Yeah, Jared, look, people like you exist. I respect it. I respect it, bruv, right? You know, some people are unambitious, trustworthy, and, you know, just hope it's going to work out. I'm sure there was people who were sat on the Titanic when it was sinking and went, you know what, let's not rush for a lifeboat.

33:54Let's just sit here and wait it out. That's fine. And sometimes it might work. Sometimes if you sit and do nothing, it can work out. It's like being in the queue at the supermarket and the queue on the left is moving quicker and people are moving across and you think, you know what, I'm going to stay here. And then suddenly your queue starts moving quicker. It can work out, Jared. but in football and what we've seen at Man United I've seen nothing from Ineos to make me trust them and make me want to sit there and say let's see how it works out I think they deserve criticism I think they'd expect criticism well Manchester United and also you know it happens at a lot of other clubs as well where can we watch the god midfielder from Newcastle at the World Cup or what did he do in the previous one Tonali is a scam and he is not good says Juro well that's fine mate because we're not going for him anyway why are we not going after sangari from lens uh says maliki we'll give it a give it a few weeks mate we probably will um one two time chermini then fernandez uh says seth and silent 9096 says hope all is well was wondering why you said you wouldn't take liao on a free does it come down to his ability or do you just think we should go elsewhere.

35:11If Rashford goes, it seems ideal. I don't remember saying those words about Liao on a free because I think he'd cost£60 million. I mean, I think I would take Liao on a free. I think there's a lot of players I don't want that I'd take on a free, to be fair. So I don't remember saying that. If I did, I can't remember the context of it, but I think Rashford's better than Liao. Now, would I take Liao or Rashford? Well, let's run a poll on that. I mean, look, the problem with Rashford is I think Rashford's better than Liao, right? But the problem with Rashford is the baggage. It's the baggage of coming back with all the problems that were there, with all the attention that will come with it, and the fact that he's going to be 29 this season and he's probably going to drop off because he's a pace-reliant player.

36:07So I think Rashford coming back, I worry about it for him, for us, and the future. Liao would be a fresh start player, wouldn't he? So on that sense, maybe I would go for Liao over Rashford, but I think Rashford's better than Liao. Personally, I would go for Noosa from Leipzig, who is probably going to be impossible to get because they're going to sell Diamande and they won't want to sell them both. But that's where I would like to go. I've seen people talking about Barcola. I don't see United being in for Barcola at all. I really don't. And I would take him. I think he's a fantastic player. But I don't see Man United being in for Barcola.

36:49I think it's way beyond what we would want to spend. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we wouldn't even spend on NJ from Everton. We won't pay 70 for him. And maybe we shouldn't. Are you worried that Man United might not sign a third midfielder because of Agate's injury? I mean, I am worried about it. It's illogical, but it's illogical not to buy three midfielders now, but, you know, it is Man United. Music, food, art. These things define and unite us. And they come in colours that breathe culture. Colours that connect us with their variety and richness. You'll find that same variety in Valspar Ultra paints.

37:28Great coverage and durability starting at£29.98 per gallon. enjoy everyday protection against scuffs and wear with a smooth washable finish we're made of colors and with Valspar Ultra you can reflect that pride of culture you have inside on every wall of your home available at Lowe's Forza says hope you're all doing well thank you very much pal last season was an amazing striker market got fifth and sixth choice this season it's amazing midfielder market and we're already on at least fourth choice small clubs as acid well let's hope that if we do get our fourth or fifth choice midfielder. They do work out like Sesko because he wasn't a terrible signing, was he?

38:06Nosk says, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ryerson, Anderson and Noosa is what we need. Well, we're not getting one of those. In fact, we're not getting any of them. I'd be happy with all three, but we're not getting any of them, are we? Let's be honest. Jack says, the club just needs to be bold and bid for Ciumini. Thank you very much for that. A lot of people talking about Patrick Lynch's comment, which I haven't actually seen yet. Rasla says I'm not saying we won't sign more players but I'm concerned that it might make us look desperate later in the window knowing United has surprised fans in the past yeah I mean look it will be if we leave our recruitment till later in the window we will pay more for less quality because the good stuff will be gone does Warton not have a release clause for 60 million for Champions League clubs don't know don't see why we don't get him gives us more budget for Chumini well I tell you what we we Ryan time I'll tell you what about Wharton if Man United sign Wharton they will look really silly because they they definitely briefed about Wharton being too similar to Manu I read that multiple times from you know a few different journalists so i'd be stunned if united went in for water really because we briefed that he was too similar to mainu i don't think he is too similar to mainu but that came from united so um hope you're well watching from southampton at the moment love the content have a weird feeling somehow by the end of the transfer window we'll get chermini says sagan tv mate look it's great that the updates are starting to move it in that direction I mean this is a story we led on Way before anybody else Those talks took place in March With his agent about a move And that's why Fabrizio started talking about A dream move in April The only barrier to Man United Signing Chumini is going to be If Real Madrid sell Which I think they will And if we pay, which I think we can And if we do those two things I think we'll get him A third slight issue might be If someone else comes in for him but I can't see anybody being able to offer him what we can.

40:21A starting place in Man United's midfield playing in the Champions League. Liverpool can't really offer him a starting place. Man City don't need him. Arsenal, I don't think, would go for him. And can they offer him a starting place? Chelsea ain't in the Champions League. So I think Man United get him if we want him. We're between a rock and a hard place of our own making, says Patrick. they've set a budget they won't exceed the market has changed meaning big spend the board has totally misread this summer they're not in control of the transfers uh and acid says in response to patrick if inios can't afford to run united they shouldn't have bought a part of the club you can say they have no control when they have had all the control by not investing well i agree with you acid and it's a different point um they shouldn't have done this i've always had a concern that Sir Jim Radcliffe did this as a vanity project.

41:14And a vanity project is where you do something for your own needs over the needs of everybody else. I think Sir Jim Radcliffe did this because he wanted to be the guy that takes Man United back to the top, but I don't think he had the tools to do it. You know, we all know when the Glazers were looking for investment or a sale, we all know what we needed. we needed somebody to walk in and go i'm man city you know you know or i'm chelsea you know they needed somebody to walk in and go we're going to spend on the team so jim radcliffe can't do that for whatever reason he can't do it hasn't got the wealth himself doesn't want to do it whatever so you're absolutely right acid it the the so jim radcliffe's plan with man united is very self-motivated in the sense that he thinks he can make man united great on a shoestring and you know he needs to look in the window at that but in relation to what patrick says and and the transfer window i i agree i completely agree i think you know we've we've walked into a market it's very much like an auction i don't know whether you've ever been to an auction i used to get taken to auctions all the time because um my mum was um um you know likes horses and a lot if you're into the horses world they they sell them at markets you know you basically farmers will know about this car car auctions as well basically an item comes into the ring you're all sat around and they'll go we'll start the bid in at 10 and you put your hand up, 10 ,100, 10 ,500.

43:00You know, that's what happens. This is basically what's happening. It's a great analogy. This is great. This is exactly what's happening with Manchester United. Mateus Fernandes walks into the ring and United think 60 million. And then it's like, we'll start the bidding at 80. What? And United are like, well, we want to pay 60. Well, no, we'll start the bidding at 80. So we're waiting for the price to come down to what we can pay, but it's already started above. what we can pay. So we're basically sat there going, please, nobody bid. And they get desperate and lower the price. Because look, in an auction, if a car comes out and somebody wants 10 grand for it and nobody bids, that price might come down to nine.

43:41All right, we'll start the bidding at five. But it's not going to happen, is it? And Patrick's right. With United, I feel like we've walked into an auction with our idea. And this is the big problem because we've read this over the weekend. Man United only want to pay fair value, right? But you walk into an auction saying, I want to pay fair value. There might be three or four people who are willing to bid beyond fair value. It's a seller's market and we can't dictate that. And it feels like we're sort of going, we won't overpay, but we don't dictate what overpaying is. We're a buyer in a seller's market.

44:25So something that you might think is worth 50 million in this market is probably going to be 65, 70. Because the Elliot Anderson deal has knocked 20 million onto every deal. I agree at the start of the summer, Mateus Fernandez, 55 million. Chumini, 65.

44:50but we're operating in a different market and and and and you know it's is it unfair probably but that's football um sometimes markets can be like this sometimes you can see real value in a market as well you know sometimes people have got a release clause or sometimes there's a load of people for sale and nobody needs midfielders like if if only two of the top clubs needed midfielders, we'd be laughing. But unfortunately, a lot of clubs want midfielders this summer and therefore the price goes up. It's like a housing market, isn't it? Sometimes people want to live in a certain area for schools or whatever like that, not because they want to look at kids going to school, but because they want to put their kids in the school.

45:39Or it might be the Cotswolds or a nice area of New York, right? So houses might be really sought after there. And sometimes a house might come on the market, might only be worth half a million, but they don't come on the market very often and loads of people want it. So that half a million house goes for maybe a million. But then in a year's time, 15 houses might come on the market in that area. And there might be 15 buyers, so you get better value. It's the world. It's the world, isn't it? Look at what happened with PS5s when there was a shortage. If there was loads of PS5s and loads of buyers, they'd go for the retail price.

46:31But if there's not many PS5s and there's loads of buyers, they go up, don't they? And this is where United have been really naive, is that we've walked into a market and look, you know, you imagine that Christmas when everyone wanted a PS5. What's the retail price? Let's say it's 500 quid. Man United would walk in to Curry's and say, I want to pay 500 quid for this. That's the fair price. And Curry's would say, have you seen the queue behind you? They're willing to pay a grand. Well, we don't think that's fair. We'll move aside, sir. That's where United have gone wrong. And they keep putting that story out.

47:05We won't pay this. We're only going to pay fair value. But in any sense of the word, if you are in a market which is a seller's market with loads of buyers, you ain't going to get fair value. You're not. That PS5 that is worth 500 quid, factually is worth 500 quid. If you want it, you have to pay a grand. And look, factually, for me, Mateus Fernandes is a 55 million pound player. You know, I'd even take him down lower than Man United's valuation of 65. I think he's a 55 million pound player. He's 21. He's been relegated with West Ham. He's been relegated with Southampton. He's never played European football.

47:49He's never played for a top Premier League side. He has a lot of potential, but he's a 55 million pound player. He's going for 30 million pounds more than that. But what are you going to do? You know, Man United can sit there and say to West Ham, all the things I've said there, and they're going to go, yeah, but we want 80. If you don't want him, piss off, you know. I've been watching since 25 ,000 Skype call-ins, says TNP, with Saunders' channel came a long way. Love the content. Help with all the spin from these shocking owners. Saunders? I mean, I remember the Skype calls, but I don't remember Saunders.

48:27Nectario says, considering United is in a financial shit show, I think getting Goretzka on a free isn't terrible, as long as we get Ciumini. He's three years younger than Casimiro, experienced, and a real professional. The problem with Goretzka is, mate, I've got a bit Australian there. The problem with Goretzka is that, one, it reminds me too much of Schweinsteiger because he's a similar age and he got loads of injuries and it didn't work out. And I was very excited about Schweinsteiger. And two, United won't like his wages, mate, because even though he's free and you could go, well, we're not paying a transfer fee, so let's give it him in wages.

49:03We don't want to break our wage structure, so we won't do it. I agree with Acid, says Razzler. Ineos did a poor job with Nice. Sagan says, Ineos have scared me. I go into a shop, see Ineos on the bottle of fabric softener. Makes me want to throw it on the floor. Thank you. It's Latan for your little hippo sticker. And thank you very much to Acid. Sorry, Razzler says, I'm not saying we won't sign more players, but I'm concerned that it may make us look desperate later in the window. There we go. I think I've caught up there. Patrick done that one uh and Sadiq we did that one as well lovely okay want to just talk quickly uh about this because we've somehow I know I don't I don't know how many people do this but um I looked at the time about two minutes ago and it was 26 minutes past 10 we're now nearly half an hour on I don't I don't know and I don't know how many people do this and I don't know how many people experience this, but it's something that's been a real problem over the years.

50:07And I just don't know how it goes. All I can say is it must be a good show and a massive thank you to all of you, because I genuinely don't know where that 25 minutes has gone. It's absolutely just flown by. So massive shout out to you. But I did want to talk about this before we sort of start to wrap things up. So basically, Fabrizio Romano, and we're really close to 9000 people watching so please do share the video if you can click and share um Fabrizio Romano on his video this morning talk about Man United basically said that Ahmad is not uh BBA says ADHD I don't think ADHD makes your time go from 26 to 51 I mean I don't know but uh there we go um I think I think what makes time go quick time time goes quick when you're having fun basically um which is why i was saying thank you to to all of you um so provincia urbano on his video this morning basically said michael carrick has made it clear that amad is not available for under any circumstances there's been some suggestion that amarin would like to take him to ac milan now amad and amarin got him really well in fact amad was playing good football under Amirim.

51:23It's under Karik where Ahmad has fell off. But Karik has said no under no circumstances. So I can see the logic behind this because Ahmad really liked Amirim and played very well under Amirim. And Amirim may look at Ahmad and go, he'd be a good player for us. And he would. He'd tear it up in Italy, I'm sure. But apparently Karik has said under no circumstances can that happen. look Ahmad under Karik hasn't worked out neither Zembermo but you wouldn't sell either of them I don't even know where this has come from because my stance on this is that is there a price where I would sell Ahmad? Yes I think most players have a price I don't know that there's a player at United at the moment that I wouldn't sell at the right price I mean I'd sell Manu for£100 million i would i mean i think that'd be a very good price so i'd definitely sell amad um bruno is probably the only one i'd resist to be honest um i think everybody has the price and i think it's foolish to say that nobody has a price because everybody has to have a price um there was days when i used to hear you know inter malam want gigs or juventus want keen and you'd probably go at no price but why would we sell Ahmad anyway?

52:48Like the way I look at United is we could never sell a Cunha or a Manu or an Embermo or an Ahmad or a Sesco at the moment because we're trying to build. So we should never be selling a half-decent player at the moment anyway. We're not in a position to do that. I think if you're Man City or Arsenal, you can sell a Trazard. You know, you can sell a Savinho. But Man United, we can't even afford to sell an Ahmad or an Embermo or a Sesco. We're just not in that position at the moment because we actually need another winger. We need another striker. We need another midfielder. We need three. So I think in relation to Ahmad, I know he's not the most popular player with some people, but you absolutely cannot be selling.

53:36Even if you don't like him, we can't be selling players like that. We'd be weakening an area that we need more in. So, look, maybe there is something in AC Milan wanting him, but we absolutely, Carrick's right, you can't trust this board. I mean, Michael Carrick might think secretly, if we can get 70 million, let's do the deal, but that money would not be reinvested in somebody better. so no I think Ahmad big season for him maybe in a year's time maybe in a year's time if it's not working out we can do something about it I think Ahmad I'm a massive fan of Ahmad as you know he has been frustrating in the last six months and he has got to step it up next year because it's baffled me in the fan base really just how how many people get on his back he's not actually well-liked universally across the fan base there's some people who really don't like him and you see it on the watch-alongs and you see it on social media but i think this season for him is a is a big season for him and uh he you know we can't i wouldn't sell seska i wouldn't sell kunya i wouldn't sell in burma i wouldn't sell dorgo i wouldn't sell ahmad we do need to improve we need to add players in that area and all of those players need to improve but i wouldn't sell any of them that's uh that would be a sign of you know i already think we behave like fucking everton That would be like Everton to start selling players like that.

54:54We need to get stronger. Yeah. It was Sander on the Skype callings. Sander, yes, not Saunders. Yeah. It's funny in this space, isn't it? Because I was thinking this the other day. There was somebody who wasn't even on the United stand who, you know, was doing content and now they don't. I've not heard from Sander in ages, actually. I thought he had talent. I thought, you know, I don't know whether he does, still does do stuff or not. But yeah, I thought he had potential, which is why he was on the channel. I am telling what this board wants to is sign some cheap players and dress them up like the next Roy Keane and then hope Carrick can get third again, says Ray.

55:36Have you doing well yet? Yeah, right. United want to buy cheap and be successful. It's very difficult to do that. The problem with United is that we cling on to players That later struggle to get rid of them We shouldn't be afraid of selling City and Chelsea do it and make them stronger in negotiating Look, Razzler If somebody offered us£70 million for Ahmad And we were going to buy Noosa With that£70 million I might do it But I don't trust this club To take good money for Ahmad And bring somebody better in so I would rather keep Ahmad for another year and focus on the midfield because we're not we're not good enough in the window to take decent money for players and replace them and solve the problems that need to be solving so why create more problems for yourself considering United is in a financial shit show I've done that one from Rectario thank you very much okay look great show this morning oh finally either or leau or rashford we've had thousands of people voting on this the results are in rashford 47 percent leau 53 which i've got to be honest doesn't surprise me i don't think there's an overwhelming feeling of bringing rashford back and i don't think there's an overwhelming feeling that leau is a man united player either so you end up with this sort of 50-50.

57:10Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Jamie says, have you heard about the Venetius Jr. rumors? I have. I have. That's why I haven't spoken about it because it's bollocks and there are plenty of stories over the years that we've never really spoken about because I think they're bollocks. And Venetius Jr. to Man United, I have seen a couple of stories about it and it's complete and utter bollocks and i wouldn't insult your intelligence by even promoting it other than the fact that i saw that there what a show this morning i've thoroughly enjoyed it um really have um so thank you everybody for tuning in as always we're back at two o 'clock uh beth beth is on at two o 'clock um and i'm with you at eight well i say eight o 'clock if brazil and japan is done in 90 minutes it's eight o 'clock if it goes extra time it'll be more like half eight If it goes penalties, it's going to be nine.

58:02But we are in that area because Sprint's third playing Sweden at 10. So we've got a two-hour gap to get an evening show in, regardless of what happens with Brazil and Japan. And I'm live on That's Football at 6pm for Brazil-Japan. Actually, I'll do this very, very quickly because it's nice to tell you what's going on for the week. Obviously, we've got the 10 o 'clock show always at 10 o 'clock this week. And normally always is at 10 o 'clock unless it's the weekend and I've slept in. So we've definitely got the 10 o 'clock show every day this week. Two o 'clock shows will be fine because there's nothing to clash with them.

58:35Eight o 'clock tonight be fine. Eight o 'clock tomorrow. France is not tonight. Sorry, it's Germany tonight at half nine. You're very, very right. Sorry about that. Eight o 'clock tonight. Eight o 'clock tomorrow.

58:52From Wednesday, England play at five and then Belgium play at nine. so eight o 'clock on Wednesday yes and Thursday we're seven o 'clock because it's Spain Austria at nine sorry at eight and then Friday

59:12Friday it's Australia we'll be at nine o 'clock after the Australia game then because that's at seven but first three days of the week we're at eight thank you everybody for tuning in and I will speak to you on the next one take care Thank you.