453: Shock New TRANSFER Plan! Scott, Tchouameni, Baleba Man Utd Transfer News

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0:48What's left and where will Manchester United go? And already we're hearing a new low for Man United that when it comes to left back and defensive recruitment, we're probably going to put it off till next summer. And, you know, the question has to be, again, as we await a new day of Glazer bots in the comments trying to defend this shit show. We have to look at it and go, how are we ever going to be successful when we're operating on tomorrow on a budget? It's going to be very difficult. So we'll delve into that. Also, we've got updates on Baleba, Chouamini, Scott and Meecha and where Man United are heading this summer transfer window.

1:27But I think the place to start for me is just to go back to Omar Barada's interview back about a month ago, where he basically said it's very important that you don't let the market or agents dictate what we should be doing. And I think that statement to me, maybe at the time we felt it was a bit about United, we're Manchester United and we will get what we want on our terms. I think time has not been great on that statement from Omar Barada. It's very important that you don't let the market or the agents dictate what we should be doing. Well, unfortunately, Omar, you are nothing in the face of the agents and the market and a summer transfer window.

2:08You have no power, mate. you are trading on a brand that's just not there anymore. I mean, Man United for me are a little bit like Jamaica trying to win the 100 metres in the next Olympics and getting Usain Bolt to come out of retirement. You know, no doubt at one point, one of the greatest ever, but he ain't ready to win those races anymore. And I think that's what United are trying to do. We're trying to trade off past glory and it ain't going to work because everyone's going to look at it and just say bye-bye and run away. And, you know, it's very important that you don't let the market or the agents dictate what we should be doing.

2:42All you end up there with is banging your chest saying we're Manchester United. It doesn't get you a title. It doesn't get you good players. It's just it's just a mantra that actually causes you to fail. And I think that sentence from Omar Barada from a month ago really does resonate now that we won't be dictated to by the market or by agents. well if you don't get dictated to by the market you don't get the players you want we're Manchester United we're not you know we're not we're not good enough to what does that even mean you know that's the price of a player well we're not going to get dictated to by you well you don't get anything then see you later because they'll pay it so anyway look let's delve into some of the headlines that are coming in this morning and I think reeling was the word I used last night, reeling in the sense that United are wounded.

3:32It's a bit like jumping in the ring for a title fight with Tyson Fury and you fancy your chances and in the first 10 seconds, he smacks you on the chin and you're like, you barely can stay on your feet. You're hanging in there, but you're sort of like, where am I? What day of the week is it? And he's coming in to knock you down again. I feel that's what United are a little bit like at the moment. We're sort of stumbling around this transfer window, trying to gain some sort of balance and cohesion in relation to what we're doing. And a very interesting article from Chris Wheeler this morning in the Daily Mail sort of verifying that really by saying that, look, Manchester United's situation at the moment is that, yes, Alex Scott is admired at Old Trafford and could well be the player that United do go to next.

4:20although insiders say that it's way too early to say that the club are going to go for Alex Scott as they're still reassessing the situation after what happened with the Mateus Fernandes situation so look even if we do end up moving towards Alex Scott next you better believe it United are sort of punch drunk at the moment they're sort of like whoa what's going on you know I really don't I I think we have to move on from Mateus Fernandes. But as we talk about the news this morning and the horrible news about defenders, let's just focus on if Alex Scott's going to be the next deal. We're not in a position where we've gone, right, we've got Edison.

5:03We need two more midfielders. We want Mateus Fernandes. If that doesn't work, let's get Scott ready. And if that doesn't work, let's get Enmica ready or Stilla ready. We're not doing that. We've basically gone all in on Fernandes. That's the data. That's the deal we'll get done. We'll get it done. It's not happened. And we're sort of like going, I can't believe it. I can't believe that. I can't believe that. And it's sort of like, we're not in advanced talks with Scott. We've not done any groundwork on Scott. Born with us saying he's not for sale. Right here, right now, United, I mean, the only thing United are doing is putting stuff out there saying we only want players who are desperate to sign for Manchester United.

5:39well you know if you walk into a nightclub by the way let me just I'm gonna go off piste a little bit here because there was a couple of people in the comments last night defending United on this and I'm sorry I just cannot understand how anybody's defending United at the moment but they're trying to get over a breakup says John yes Mateus Fernandes certainly but you know like I said last night I find it embarrassing that United are putting it out there that they only want players who are desperate to sign for Manchester United because the pool of players that will actually be doing that will be very small and they'll be desperate for a reason because they're probably not good enough.

6:18It's probably an upgrade to go to Man United. So you'll get a load of people who are desperate to come to Man United who probably aren't good enough for Man United because it's a dream to come to Man United. There'll be very few players out there that are going to be top star players that are going to improve us that are desperate to come to Man United. but the fact that Man United are putting out there as an excuse for their failure in the transfer market is hilarious and embarrassing at the same time but if you walk into a nightclub and presuming you're single or if you aren't single imagine you're going back to being single right if you walk into a nightclub and you're single you're looking to mingle and you walk in and you go yeah that's probably a little bit out of my league well this wouldn't happen to me that's a little bit out of my league but you know I wouldn't mind putting the work in that looks right up my street and I'll definitely be asking if they want a drink.

7:02Oh, there's another one. That looks absolutely fantastic as well. And we're not judging them on how they look. We're just, you know, looking at the way that they're, you know, holding conversations. Maybe they're wearing a Man United top or something like that, right? And as you're surveying the scene, somebody runs up to you and grabs you and starts kissing your neck and saying, oh, take me home now. I'll absolutely love you. I'm desperate. I actually am sort of like, who are you? You know, this is weird. I actually want something that's, you know, I look at and want, and I've got to put the working on it because I think it's right for me.

7:36I do not want you running towards me, grabbing hold of me, kissing my neck, saying, let's go home. Maybe in a couple of hours, if I'm not ever struck out, but not right now. I think most scenarios in life, if something's desperate, you question it. You know, if you have a, if you want a wall building at the front of your garden right and you get a few quotes and two of them from reputable companies are a bit expensive but one is half the price and desperate and messaging you all the time i would say do not get that do not let them build your wall now some of you might go but it's cheap i want them to build my wall i would not let them build my wall i'd be like why are they so desperate and why are they so cheap um and and this is what i mean united are literally putting that down out there as a good news story.

8:26We only want people who are desperate to join Man United. But most of us will verify that in life, people who are desperate tend to not be the right choice. They don't, do they? It's true. Anyway, let's go back to what was said there. Yeah, so United are definitely reeling. The latest coming out from Chris Wheeler this morning, obviously, we've got Ben Jacobs on it too. I think there'll be a lot of updates coming in. There's something in The Athletic I want to talk about this morning as well but essentially there is no plan post Mateus Fernandes at the moment and what we're basically getting is as I said Chris Wheeler is saying that from insiders Man United may go for Alex Scott but at the moment they're assessing the situation on what they want to do after Mateus Fernandes well I'm sorry you can put stories out there about wanting desperate players to come to Manchester United which is ridiculous but can we also just acknowledge that there are two very big factors at play here.

9:22One, we clearly don't have a lot of money, which I'll come back to in a moment. And two, we are approaching the time when players traditionally come back for pre-season and we're just starting our midfield search again. So I'm not saying we're halfway through the transfer window because there'll be some Zoom in the chat saying, well, it's only been open for two weeks. But hold this, We've known we needed to rebuild our midfield for 12 months We knew Casemiro was leaving in January Which was nearly six months ago We're at the start of July And we are restarting our transfer search We've just hit reset On our midfield Basically that's where we are this morning United have not wandered away to anything else They are still sat there going I can't believe we've been rejected by Mateus Fernandes.

10:17We are not in advanced talks with Enmica or Trumini or Scott or anybody. And that to me is very worrying. And, you know, you can get the sympathisers and, you know, the Glazer, Rimmers or whatever you want to call them saying we're absolutely fine. We're not absolutely fine. Yes, there's two months left in the window. I completely agree. But what about January, February, March, April, May, June, July of preparing for this midfield? Now, I remember what I said about Jurgen Klopp two or three years ago. I'm no Liverpool fan. I couldn't believe what he did in one summer. Endo, Sabozlay, Gravenberch, McAllister.

10:53He rebuilt his midfield in one summer. I doubt he was sat there at the start of July saying, what are we going to do then? It must have been strategic, planned out and delivered to the point. And also, I think he got them in for pre-season as well. We are here at the start of July Not knowing who we're going for next Needing to rebuild a midfield We're just not ready And they say they follow the data And they say that they're calm And they say that they want people who aren't desperate But can people please start doing some research Manchester United Under the Glazers for the last 13 years Have been getting gradually worse We are still owned by the Glazers Nice have been owned by Ineos And they are plummeting like the Titanic We don't have one of those entities owning us.

11:38We have both. We have 13 years of Glazer's failure in bed with Ineos and what they've done to Nice. Individually, they're bad. Together, they're like some sort of supervillain. Yeah, it's like Darth Vader and Thanos having a kid. I don't know how that would work. But, you know, they've not diluted their crapness. They've supercharged it. so yeah we we you know we do not we cannot trust these people and i loved that comment last night by the way i cannot claim it as my own but this is the brilliant thing about this community i think it is a big issue when our biggest transfer record was 10 years ago for paul at 89 million pounds and spurs chelsea arsenal liverpool man city have exceeded that multiple times.

12:27Now, if you like knocking one out to the Financial Times, you're probably very excited about that. This is football. This is football. We built our success on spending money under Sir Alex Ferguson. For 10 years, we haven't broke our own British transfer. We haven't broke our record. A decade, and we haven't broke our record. A decade of inflation, and we haven't got near it. So I think that's a massive sign of, you know, like INEOS keep talking about, we've got to be careful with money and this, that and the other. And people are acting like it's a new thing. Wake up. Wake up and smell that coffee.

13:11INEOS are just a repackaging of glazes. They're not coming up with new strategies around wages and transfer fees. We've been operating like this for 10 years, subtly. We haven't broke our own record for 10 years. Paul Pogba's our record signing, and we signed him 10 years ago. We've been doing this for a long time. So, look, beware. Other updates. Look, I'll go to this one next because this one worries me the most. In the same article with Chris Wheeler, United hope to add cover at left back. Cover at left back. So we've gone from Lewis Hall replacing the very average slash poor Luke Shaw to United would like cover at left back, but may have to wait until next summer.

14:00With next summer earmarked as the time to reshape that area of the squad. Oh, God, have mercy on this football club. What the fucking hell? What the fucking hell? So it's now cover that will be sorted out next summer. What the hell are they doing? Do you know what? Do you actually think that... I mean, this update is depressing. This is like a new low. I'm going to start doing the show. We can't even sit on the chair anymore. I'm going to sit. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stand. I am replicating the level of Man United. I am down in the sewers down here. I mean, this is incredible. This is absolutely incredible.

14:50And look, obviously, this is just news. This is a news show. But we were linked with Lewis Hall a month ago, right? In the last week, we've had Mike Keegan on this show saying Man United are absolute... I'm going to stand up. that's where United standards are. We're not going to take it down there. In the last week, we've had Mike Keegan on this show saying that Man United are absolutely baffled about why they've been linked with Lewis Hall. Well, I can tell them that. You know, Manchester United's bafflement, right? The reason we've been linked to Lewis Hall is because our current left back is shit and we're Manchester United and we should be buying the best available left back.

15:34That's why we've been linked to him. So you can be baffled, but basically fans and journalists are doing your job for you. We all know you're not going to buy one but your bafflement is just an indication of your complete and utter ineptitude. The reason we've been linked to Lewis Hall is because journalists and fans are basically doing your job. They're saying Lewis Hall's unsettled at Newcastle. He'd be a good signing for Man United. Man United need a left back. So when Man United say they're baffled, yeah, we're not in for Lewis Hall. Obviously, they're baffled, but ultimately people are doing your fucking job for you, you knobheads.

16:09They are actually doing the data for you. But we've gone from, in a week, United are baffled by being linked to a left-back that they actually should be signing, to United would like to get cover at left-back, but probably not till next summer. You know what they've done? They've watched the World Cup and they've seen Masraoui playing at left-back, haven't they? It's taken Morocco at a World Cup to tell them something that they could have known themselves for the last two years. They've literally watched Morocco and gone, Mas Raui's good. Coxie's got on the phone to Barada and gone, Oh, I think I've found ourselves a new left back and he's playing for Morocco right now.

16:57And Omar's gone, yes, yes, he's actually one of our players. You're joking. It's like bloody Christmas, Omar It's amazing He plays for United Yeah So we've already got a left back We don't have to spend anything No Why do you not know this? Well Karaki's not been picking him, has he? Right We'll have a chat with Karaki This is sorted I reckon we've watched Masraoui play left back In the World Cup And gone First of all, let's buy in Then we've figured out he's already here And then we've gone we don't need to buy a left back. But does anybody else not get the contradiction of this? We've not used him at left back.

17:39We've been using Luke Shaw. So, I mean, it's just another... I mean, that's... Look, obviously, you've got to bring a bit of comedy into life, especially around Man United, because if you don't have a bit of banter, you're going to sink under the pressure, the mental pressure. And maybe I am already sinking. I'm operating on four hours sleep and coffee. But I genuinely do think Mas Rowie doing well for Morocco at left back has probably done us no favours at all. I mean, I think Mas Rowie should be starting for Man United, but Michael Carrick clearly doesn't. Michael Carrick prefers Deleuze and Shaw.

18:16So I think we've gone, well, we've got Luke Shaw. If he can stay fit, we use Luke Shaw. And if he can't, we use Mas Rowie. So I think that's why we're now not going for a left back. and you know what i do look if you are tuning in just like just in the last few seconds let me just repeat the new news coming out this morning from chris wheeler in the mail is that man united would like cover at left back not a starting left back cover at left back but we'll probably look to could put this off until next summer to solve it so please get in the comments whether you're watching live or not, please get in the comments and tell us, because we've had a whole night of this.

19:00There are still United fans defending our complete and utter tight-arse approach to football. Please tell us why, because you know what? I get sent stuff. I get sent articles. I get sent clips. There was a brilliant comment last night, by the way, that we're the only outlet that call the Glazers out. Apparently, everybody else, all the other content creators, all the other Twitter accounts, all the other journalists, apparently they absolutely rim the glazes, which I find incredible. I don't know what they're doing it for. I mean, are they getting inside information? Are they hoping they're going to get an interview?

19:35I don't know. I don't know. I've got no idea, but that's up to them. That's completely up to them. But I would love to know. I very rarely give a shit about what anyone else is saying outside of our world, but I would love to listen and have a laugh about how they justify United being ambitious by putting off transfers till next summer again. Because we've been doing this for years. We always end the summer transfer window without key positions that we put off till next year. And then next year comes along and we do it again and again. So we're always chasing our tail. So how are we going to win the league?

20:14how are we going to win the league this season or next season if we're already being told a key position won't be won't be solved till next season and this key position is a starting position it's not the bench i understood how arsenal didn't win the league because they didn't have a good bench what's up everybody it's bretsky and america is turning 250 and i can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an american-owned social casino spinquest.com with all of your favorite games live crabs bubble crabs live blackjack there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes spinquest.com spin quest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited visit spinquest.com for more details we're going into the season with a weakness in the starting team every year every year um so i'd love to know how people justify this because they do.

21:11People justify not signing Tenali. People justify not signing Mateus Fernandez. People justify as having a wage budget. People justify as not spending much money. So how are you going to justify as leaving holes in the squad till next summer again? Actually, not squad, leaving holes in the first team. Because I'm telling you now, I may as well start changing the background to Everton shirts. So I'm thinking of, you know, get rid of that 1993 classic United top. Let's replace it with a 1986 Everton top when they won the league. And let's get rid of that one and get a 1995 one when they beat Man United in the FA Cup final.

21:51You know, we'll get some toffees. You know, we'll get a big cardboard cutout of Neville Southall because we may as well be Everton at the moment. And I've been saying this for months. We may as well be Everton. We are operating like Everton. And yet we're pretending we're going to win league titles. So look, summary of the big two stories I want to talk about this morning. First of all, after Mateus Fernandes, United haven't got a clue what they're doing. They're assessing the situation. I would imagine there's some sort of big meeting going on today with key people where they're talking about where they're going to go next.

22:29They've probably got Data Dean in there. uh well at the end of the day lads and ladies and i did tell you to go for matthews fernandez and anderson and i know you're going to shout at me but just let let let me talk you know you know if you shout at me too much my brain will overload i i just have to get the data out my my ears are popping with info that's just how i work right i did tell you to go for matthews fernandez you didn't i told you to go for elliot anderson you didn't i told you to go for tonali you didn't I'm now telling you to go for Chumini and Meacher and Scott and you're telling me it's too expensive.

23:01So, you know, what the fuck do you want me to do? You know, I'm not really a swearer. I'm a statistics person. But what the fuck do you want me to do? Like, I follow the data or follow your pocket. You know, if you want me to produce a list of shit that's under 50 million pounds, I'll do that. But that's not really my job description. You know, I pump the numbers. I'm a data man. I am not a bloody bean counter. you know but i'm losing it um i imagine data dean i think his name's michael sanassi i imagine omar barrada jason wilcox possibly michael carrick sir jim radcliffe i think they've all got to get in a room in the next few days and decide what they're going to do next but as i said omar barrada himself said a month ago we will not be dictated to by the market and agents so we're operating in our own world you know um it's like it's like you know when you used to play lunchtime football at school and it's like six aside and you put someone in goal and when they when they get the ball they run up the pitch like it's rugby and then throw it in the goal and you're all looking at them and you go what have you done and they go touchdown and you go what are you doing and then they just run off the field celebrating and they never come back there's a bit like what what United are doing at the moment.

24:25We're playing a game where we're not obeying the rules. We're playing to our own rules and we're just getting laughed at. And the rules are, you can't do that. The rules are the rules, right? The rules are, if you want this player, that's how much it is. We're playing to our own rules and then we're patting ourselves on the back. So look, they've got to have a conversation about where they're going next, haven't they? And at the moment, we just don't know. The latest on Chumini is that he is a player that's admired. Let me just read this because also there's an update from Chris Wheeler here. Chumini is a midfielder high on United's list, but there's no guarantee he'll leave Real Madrid anyway.

25:05And also transfer fee and wages could be a stumbling block again. I mean, that one worries me the most, actually. You know, as we... And there's no point speculating. And I don't think... I mean, I might be wrong. I don't think there's a journalist or a bullshitter on Twitter who would dare, dare to go, I'm hearing this because I think a lot of people are running for the caves at the moment to hide because the Mateus Fernandes deal has absolutely burnt them. So I don't think we're going to hear anything about anything that's absolutely tangible until it comes in from a Romaro or an Ornstein, which is briefed from the club.

25:49And that might be a few days. But the one that worries me the most about wherever we're going to go next is that. And there's another thing I want to talk about as well. Chumini, right? If United are concerned about his wage and his fee, I'm telling you now, brother. If Real Madrid want to sell him They'll sell him at market value And his wage will be market value And he plays for Real Madrid and France He may well be a World Cup winner In a couple of weeks time If we're worried about the wage and the fee Of Cimini We're basically worried about a player That will be sold at a fair price Who is worth it I get the fact that Mateus Fernandes is one for the future I get the fact that Anderson is one for the future But with people like Chiumini and Tonali You're literally Dealing with players who are valued Correctly, whose wage is correct And they are actually Ready to go quality players So if we're scared or Unwilling to pay let's say 75 million for Chiumini And give him 250 grand a week We're in trouble, aren't we?

27:09As I said to you last night, Tonali at 250 grand a week and 92 million, that's not overpaying. That's actually fair play. That's a good deal. We paid 89 million for Pogba 10 years ago and probably gave him 250 grand a week. I don't remember what Pogba's starting wage was. Maybe somebody does. But let's say Pogba, 89 million and 250 grand a week from Juventus 10 years ago in today's market is probably the equivalent of 400 grand a week and 125 million, maybe more. I don't know. So Tonali at 92 and 250 grand a week is fair value. Chumini at 75 million and 250 grand a week is fair value, but we're not willing to pay that.

27:59And I think that's my message is that we're not willing to pay fees full stop. It's not about, oh, we think they're overpriced or anything like that. We clearly have a problem with going over 200 grand a week in wages and over, you know, 70 million on fee. And that worries me the most because where we go next should be Ciumini and he is available. But we're not even willing to pay for good players, if you know what I mean. and that does warrant a concern, certainly. I've just been sent something here about this. Oh, official Mateus Fernandes joins Tottenham on 44 million deal. That can't be right.

28:49Yeah, that must be a typo. Even though that way he's trying to wind us up because that can't be right. we're well on our way to similar league position as Newcastle had last season thanks to our directors Tonali was good business for Spurs says Perk many fans are trying to justify how we're acting in the market and those same fans will be saying we should be competing against those spending and are already better than us the contradiction is crazy says Patrick look Patrick I've seen people say that Spurs with Van Heek, Sanessi, Tonali, Fernandes and what they've already got will be in the top five next season if arsenal man city and if man city if arsenal man city and spurs are already in there and i think that's a big shout by the way where are we chelsea liverpool you know and and pretend to the aston villa so i think that my prediction is whatever happens we'll have a good start to the season because we've got an easy start.

29:48And whatever happens, Spurs will have a bad start to the season because they've got a bad start on paper. But as we know, your points accumulation from January to May is where you really go for it. Well, Spurs aren't in Europe from January to May and they'll be settled by then. So I don't think it matters how Spurs start the season. I think it's how they finish the season. I think that's where the threat comes from them. Slow Sports News says we're getting belabor, aren't we? I don't know. You know, on Belaber, there is a bit of an update where The Athletic are saying that they've heard nothing about Wharton and Belaber from Man United for quite a while.

30:24So, you know, let's let's wait and see on that. Sorry, I'm just going to get rid of an idiot in the chat. You know, if you're going to be a great, can I just send a message to the Glazers? Right. If you're going to do botting, please don't. You've got to be more subtle than this show is terrible. you know, trust the process. Because no human Man United fan would ever speak like that. They're never going to say trust the process, you know. If we're not going to spend on Tonali and Fernandes, then Chirmini and Scott are out too. It leaves us panic buying terrible belabor. We are screwed, says Neil.

31:00I have a dollar for every United admirer, says Seth. Again, Mark, you're not wrong, but what should we do? What can we actually do and what will they actually do are not the same. So all on our best sense midfielders, says Kiel. We're chasing transfers like Chris Packett's in the wind marks as Raskett. Do you think we're never in for Tonali due to his off-field issues? Should we spend big on players that are great but have problems off the field? Ineos and Glazer is utterly incompetent regardless. There's music for everyone out there. Look, in relation to Tonali, he's signed for Spurs and fair play.

31:33I think he's a brilliant signing. I didn't see... I don't think that his off-field issues are an issue anymore and i don't think that that's the reason man united didn't go for him i think it's the money you know maybe man united will at some point put something out there about the gambling again they've certainly done that a couple of times already but you know how convenient is that when it's a player that's going to cost 92 million and 250 grand a week we wouldn't pay that anyway regardless of off-field issues we wouldn't pay that anyway Slazy says sorry if you've mentioned this but why does Romano call the Fernandes deal a 44 million deal just tweeting it now sorry one minute let me just wrap this hold on

32:28I'm alright I'm alright do you want to do it

32:43Well, I'm glad I got up then The wife answers the door To somebody going Hi, how are you? Do you want to come round the back? I was like, what? What's going on? I'm actually here I'm doing work Turns out It was my daughter's prom night last night And she'd hired some big letters that you can light up for prom. And the person knocking at the door is also a woman as well, which some people leave it there. OK, let's go. Sorry if you've mentioned this, but why does Romano call the Fernandez deal a 44 million deal? Just tweeted it now. Thought it was 85 million fixed, says Slazy. Yeah, I'm sort of...

33:24My flies are undone. They are. But don't worry. I've got a pair of... I've got a pair of box shorts on anyway, so...

33:35There we go. Nothing's going to fall out there. It's well caged away. A bit like Man United, transfer budget. So we get it. Glynios, that we are not getting quality players this window. Can we quantify then? Can we basically get anything? Any plans at all, says Alamir. Mate, I think that one thing I did want to add in, there's a couple of things I do want to talk about. We're clearly broke, by the way. I did a video last Friday saying we're broke. A lot of what we do on this channel is led by you and I just being passionate and caring about the football club. And we are like mushrooms. We get fed on shit.

34:18So there's a lot of projection, opinion, analysis, predictive stuff. Exactly. And I did a video on Friday talking about we're broke. And I think a week later, almost to the day, we can take that to the bank. You know, we can cash that check. We are broke. We're not broke. We can spend 300 million pounds if we want to, but we don't want to. So effectively, we're broke. You know, if I want a PS5 for Christmas and I know my parents can afford it and they say you're only getting 20 quid spent on you, well, I'm only getting 20 quid spent on me, aren't I? The money they've got may as well not exist.

35:02The budget we're operating to is the equivalent of being broke. You know, if we can't afford a left back and we can't afford Tonali and we can't afford Anderson and we can't afford Mateus Fernandes because it is we can't afford. You know, one man's we're operating to a strict budget is another woman's we're broke. And you can do that vice versa as well. My point is. We're clearly broke. we clearly are operating to a strict budget that restricts us to a point where we're broke coming into the summer transfer window is it fair to say I mean let me know in the chat what would have and the thing about you United fans is we're not even fantasists you know I never hear people say right we need to get Bellingham we need to get Jamal we need to get Haaland, we need to get Declan Rice and that's how we're going to win the league and probably would win the league.

36:05We don't talk like that. We are fully aware of the real world that we operate in and most people are saying let's get Gio Gomez from Wolves because he's quite cheap let's get Lewis Hall because it's worth the investment let's go and get Mateus Fernandes from West Ham and let's get Cermini. It is quite a big expense and we do need a right back, we do need a backup striker we do need a winger, but get those four players and we can get by with everything else. So most United fans, when they say this is what we need, they don't even go for what we really, they don't go for best in class. They normally go for option C or B.

36:42We never put plan A because we're realistic. We know the club would never do it. We put option B or C there. And we also, if we need eight players, we'll put five. So we are already educated to be realistic when we walk into a summer transfer window. And I think most of us said three midfielders and a left back. When we actually need double that, we do need a winger. We do need a backup striker. We do need a right back. You could argue we need a centre back. So we walked into this summer transfer window saying three midfielders and a left back are absolute priorities, non-negotiables, right? And we actually need more than that.

37:19Well, here we are in July. We've got Edison. we can't afford the left back we can't afford the midfielders we might get some interpretation of two midfielders and a left back but they're not going to be the value that we want so we clearly do not even have the budget to satisfy realistic man united fans expectations um we just don't have that budget um so therefore we're broke in my mind we're broke if we can't spend the level that we need to spend to. We're broke. Tadar, it's Rabiot and Sar, says Adityo. Do you feel Mark, we need to have a season like Spurs to pull their finger out, says Tony.

37:58I think that this club, as I've hinted at for a while, I personally think we're trying to be Arsenal for the 10 years where they built the stadium. I think that if you could be a fly on the wall, that conversation's been had multiple times. They just can't let it be public, which is why Barada talks about winning leagues and Project 2028. I think they know it's bollocks. I think they know it's bollocks, but it's a little bit like a government knowing the world's going to end in 30 days, but telling everybody, you know, everything's fine. Because if you tell them the truth, the world will descend into anarchy.

38:39And I think United are the same. I think they do not tell us the truth because they know the truth will send everything crashing down. So they talk about titles, they talk about ambition, they talk about being the biggest club in the world, but the reality is they're operating to a different truth. I think, and the evidence is there, I think if you have a wage budget structure and you have a limitation on your transfer spend and Spurs are outspending you, I think when you analyse it, it's very obvious that Spurs are operating on a much more ambitious level than we are, but we're a bigger club.

39:20And I think the justification for that is that we are not going to spend a lot of money for the next 10 years because we're trying to build a stadium, but we're not going to tell our fans that because that will cause chaos. So we need to lie to our fan base about being ambitious whilst not being ambitious, which does explain why you spend nine months talking about Elliot Anderson and then you do nothing about it. It does explain why you spend four months talking about Diamande and you do nothing about it. It does explain why you're linked to Chiumini and you say, yeah, he's a dream target, but we can't afford it.

39:58We seem to want to feed the propaganda of positivity to hide the reality of where we're going. And until I start seeing evidence of that not being the case, then that is my major concern. And I also think as well, for anybody that actually defends this ownership, and you know what, I'm yet to see any evidence of why you would, other than trust me, bro. And it's the same people, funnily enough. I mean, I see their accounts i'm not shouting them out because at the end of the day i'm not up for causing people shit who've gone you know getting their replies and stuff and you know i'm not interested in that but you know we are a community where we're allowed to discuss things the same people who said trust to jim will get he'll get the glazes out by 2026 we need inios and they were vile about Qatar.

40:56And if you wanted Qatar, you were an enemy of the football club. So Jim Radcliffe was the right person to go for. He's mank born and bred. He's going to get the glazes out. They told us all this shit. None of it happened. None of it happened. And they're still backing this shit now. And in a way, I feel sorry for how deluded they are because there's not one thing that they can put their finger on and say, well, this has been good. And yet those of us who doubt this ownership can say, mate, you could write a book on things that they've said, that they've done the opposite. You can't trust the word they say.

41:34We're following the data. Yeah, we're not paying for it. I thought you were following the data. Yeah, but we're not following the data then, i.e. following your bank. We've just recruited the best director of football in football, best in class. He's not coming yet because he's on gardening leave from Newcastle. Yeah, he's here now, we've sacked him, yeah? we're going to stick with Eric Ten Hag and there's£300 million yeah three months later we've sacked him Ruben Amrim's the guy he's going to rebuild this football club we're going to spend on him we're going to rebuild on him yeah we've sacked him yeah we're going to recruit the best director of football and the best CEO in the world he didn't do that either when we sack Amrim we're going to get the best manager available for this football club we're not going to do what make the mistakes of the past we've got an interim in now we're going to give him the job there's nothing they do that doesn't contradict themselves there isn't everything they do they contradict themselves and yet some people still trust them what are you trusting them on on what basis are you trusting them what they did at Nice what the Glaciers have done for the last 13 years what reason do you trust these people to make Man United great again when their track record is abysmal and their recent track record at Man United is full of contradiction and lies.

43:03It's a fact. We're not having an argument here about opinion. It's not like whether it was a red card for the USA last night or whether it was a penalty for Harry Kane. It's not subjective 50-50 conversation. This is literal fact that these owners are full of it they're absolutely full of it and they don't they wouldn't know their ass from their elbow they literally contradict themselves all the time you know hey guys lady luck here are you going on any road trips this summer i know i'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips and being that i'm going to be passenger princess i love playing on spinquest.com.

43:44Spinquest has all of my favorite slot games, live blackjack, live craps. Head on over to Spinquest right now and get yourself a$30 coin pack for just$10. Spinquest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. When we don't get Elliot Anderson, we're following the data. When we don't get Mateus Fernandes, well, we didn't mean that. What I actually meant is we won't overpay. How can you follow the data and then not buy the player? It's just a contradiction all the time. Do you feel we have no... Tony Burton says, do you feel, Mark, we have no reason to have a season like Spurs did this board?

44:26Look, going back to that point, because that sort of sent me on a trajectory. We've already had a season like Spurs. That was last season, the season before the one that's just ended. We've already had that season. They're still here. We've had protests. They're still here. They're building a stadium that's going to take years. They're not going anywhere, mate. That's why the protests have stopped. You know, I haven't heard from the Man United Supporters Trust in about 50 years. Do they still exist? At least the 58 still put stuff out there. I've not heard about the Man United Supporters Trust doing anything for years.

45:01I mean, they do still exist, don't they? The Man United Supporters Trust must. I've not heard anything for bloody ages from them. So there's nothing going on in the fan base. Our only hope is that at some point, a billionaire owner, this is the only way this changes, right? Our only hope is that a billionaire Man United fan says, I want to get these owners out. And then everybody gets behind them and helps them get them out. But there is no alternative at the moment. Mark predicted this whole thing, says Giovanni. Mark, if you notice in the article, it means they want to give Shaw new contracts and buy cheap left back next season.

45:34says Arshen. Mate, Man United love Luke Shaw. They can't stop posting about him. I mean, maybe get Data Dean to analyse his performances because he's allergic to the opposition's half. Thomas, welcome to Members Club. I want us to all use our cash on midfielders, says Keel. Marlowe says Spurs showing what you can do with ambition on a competent, charismatic coach. At no point since Sir Alex has United done what Spurs does, rebuilding their midfield in one summer. Glazers would walk away from Tonali, Fernandez and Anderson because too expensive then slam 80 million on Belaber with 250 grand a week.

46:11The new Ineos model is the same except now we won't even do that, says Reece Have we hit rock bottom of the barrel yet, says Isla Look, look we will pivot somewhere you know, on a positive and I don't know how positive it makes you feel we will go and buy two midfielders. We will I don't know who they're going to be yet I don't think they could know who they're going to be. We will buy two midfielders. We're not going to not buy midfielders. We have to. You know, there's literally a massive hole in the boats. As soon as we put it on the sea, it's going to sink. So they got to go and buy midfielders.

46:44We will buy midfielders. How good they're going to be, how suitable they're going to be, we don't know yet. So we will buy midfielders. We will also start the season off very well because people like Bruno Fernandes, Harry Maguire, Sesco, Cunha and Bermot are going to get your points against newly promoted teams. So we will start the season well and we will buy midfielders. The problem will come like that boat halfway through the season when the problems start to surface and the leaks start to appear. how quick will we sink from that point or will we be able to carry on doing what we're doing um you know we had a bad start to the season under amirim we had a good end to the great end to the season under carrick so my my my big issue will be and it happens every year is that if things start going really badly for the reasons we think in the summer then And sorry, in the season, if things go badly for the reasons that have gone wrong in the summer, will our fans do this?

47:52We've just lost to Liverpool 4-0. Carrick out. Carrick's clueless. We never should have given the job to Carrick. Carrick's an absolute bag of shit. Carrick's rubbish. Get rid of Carrick. Carrick out. Or will people go, this is exactly what we said was going to happen when you have a shit summer transfer window? because I've never heard that. You know, when it was Jose out and he'd had a bad summer transfer window where they didn't get his players, I didn't hear people saying, no, forget Jose out. Get Woodward out. Get the Glazers out. Didn't happen. They fucked him in the window. He was gone by Christmas.

48:27At no point did people start saying Glazers out or Woodward out. It was Jose out. Same with Ten Hag. Same with Amrim. Same with Oli. You know, every season we have a bad summer transfer window. it's always the manager three or four months later that is the target of the media and the fans it's never well this was always going to happen because of them so a lot of people saying give me Kamada I've got nothing against Kamada but mate I mean you are symptomatic of what's wrong with this football club I mean you are literally chanting for a free transfer who is 29

49:15you know have we so to answer your question Lila have we hit the bottom of the barrel yet I think people chanting for commander on a free transfer at 29 might well be the bottom of the barrel because that's what United fans are thinking about now Since we won the FA Cup under Ten Hag, City, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool have all won something. So we are the longest without a trophy now, says Blameshifter. We are factually, and you can clip this, Manchester United are factually the biggest embarrassment out of the traditional top five. We're the longest without a Premier League title out of Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City.

49:57And we are the club with the cheapest transfer record out of Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and Arsenal. Paul Pogba,£89 million, is dwarfed multiple times by Man City, twice that I can think of Arsenal, twice that I can think of Liverpool, twice that I can think of and Chelsea, twice that I can think of So, you know, our ambition is a reality We haven't won the league the longest out of those five clubs and we have the cheapest transfer record out of those five clubs These two things go hand in hand we won't spend big money and we don't win the Premier League goes hand in hand 10 years since we broke our transfer record 13 years without a Premier League title all those other clubs have spent a lot of money and they've all won the Premier League more recently than us money, spending money, wins your titles we will need desperate players you can't persuade top players to play for Michael Carrick every coach in the traditional top six has a better CB than him says Neil but he is cheap can we get Beth to ask Ben what's going on and does he think he's being fed spin or is there truth to what he's being said and the clubber just falls says Dan well it's going to be very interesting show with Ben Jacobs at two o 'clock and you know I do like Ben and he definitely will front up but you know as the same with some Man United IT co in the nose you know who nobody knows who they are um and they basically are feeding shit into the fan base you know some journalists are getting it as well so you know i think it'll be a very interesting show as to what's going to happen next but as i've always said to you i think when it comes down to you know transfers it's ornstein and romano um and anything else is you know you can take it with a pinch of salt because you just don't know you know you don't know what the club are feeding out and why they're feeding it out the club fed out for nine months that we wanted elliot anderson and We didn't even bid.

51:54We're finished as a serious club under Glazers and Ineos. Things will get worse if we let them build the stadiums, says Dazzo. Spurs have had the window we should have had. Nothing against Edison, but for Spurs to have signed two players better than us is embarrassing, says Addy. Well, the one thing I would acknowledge about Spurs that I think is worth saying, Addy, is that if you think about it, Man United have had 12 months to prepare for building their midfield. We've known about it for 12 months. casemiro said he was retiring in january six months ago we didn't spend any money in january but we did bid for some enu so we knew the money was there we've also qualified for the champions league so 12 months to rebuild a midfield prepare for it six months we've known casemiro was going we didn't spend any money in january but we have got money and we've qualified for the champions league which gives us 100 million pounds of more money our recruitment is an absolute embarrassment at the moment Spurs were under leave at Levy and managed by Tudor only a few months ago in the space of getting Deserby in two months ago and removing Daniel Levy they've bought Tonali, Mateus Fernandes, Van Hecht got Snesi on a free they've had probably two months to get a new manager in and rebuild their team and they're doing it we've had 12 and we're sat on our arse so you know when they talk about patience and being calm it doesn't go hand in hand with football I'm afraid Morning for Mark what are your thoughts on Andre as a number 6 I rate him you've seen more Bundesliga than me we're not going to buy I don't think we'll buy a player from the Bundesliga I don't think we'll get a Meecha Charlie and I don't think we'll get Stilla our therapists are going to therapists are going to get rich next season says Max loves cookies did the board just pull off the biggest trick of all and make us believe they were looking at all these players only to end up with Edison and Belébus as Damien.

53:46I wouldn't be surprised if we have done that. Because what would we do about it? Even if it came out that Man United were happy to be linked to players they knew they weren't going to buy just for spin, what damage does it do? Funny how Spurs, who don't need a midfield revamp, are more active than United, who've been anticipating this rebound for years. It's as if intentional to stop in aspirations as Alamir. Spurs had a better a midfield than us before the window and now they've bought two targets that would be part of our great rebuild. It's a joke ownership, tired of the lives. Yeah, I was thinking about this Nate.

54:19So I know they're not going to keep Paulinho but he's better than anything we've got. They've also got Saar, Bissouma, Bergvall, Bentanka. So they've got five midfielders at the end of the season. We've got one in Maynou now because Agathe's injured. And then they've added Tonali and Fernandes. It's almost like United thought price is going crazy was a temporary thing, like the market would become sensible again. And they've relied on that, says the Pepsi man. It's almost like United, when they wanted Anderson and they realised what the fee was going to be and they backed out in May, should have acted.

54:56I mean, we literally had front row seats, exclusive front row seats for the fact that the transfer market was going to go stupid and we didn't do anything about it. Because we were involved in the Anderson deal, we knew what the price was going to be roughly in May. And we still sat back and didn't do anything. Spurs have Tonali, Bentanka, Fernandes, Sark, Ray, Gallagher, forgot about Gallagher, United rely on Agate who won't play next season, Maynou an unproven almost, and an almost 27-year-old, minimal Champions League experience, worst top six midfield, says Dean. Well, we've got one of the worst midfields in the Premier League at the moment because we've hardly got, we don't really have one.

55:40Tristan I mean Everton's got a better midfield than us at the moment because we've only got Maino and Edison Tristan Miller thank you very much for being a member 49 months here's to another season written off says Oliver walking away is good only if you do have alternative plans but what are we doing so far is what labelled as Man United busiest windows says Alamir we're probably waiting for Scott to ask to leave says Max loves cookies and isn't fair for clubs to demand these fees for players when you think of the spending from Champions League clubs last year thank you for all your content says paul thank you paul for tuning in as well appreciate you on this thursday morning um this is the reason why amram fell out with coxie says joey i mean i i don't want to talk about amram because he's gone but you know just very very quickly reuben amram lost his job because he fell out with wilcox about ambition in the transfer market he didn't lose his job because of results.

56:36He lost his job because of the transfer market. You can understand how any manager would be pissed off with the way United are run. I mean, you know, Carrick has his dream job and he's not going to say anything. But I think if De Zerbi or Tuchel or Mourinho or Arteta or Mareska or any decent coach was in charge at Man United watching what's happening this summer, you'd be pissed off. It's only because we've got Karik who's like inexperienced and you know living the dream. Any established manager would be furious with this window so far. They're going to spin the narrative of how great a player Belaber is when no other club was trying to buy him.

57:22What a joke, says Spuzz. Les says don't get me wrong the owners have been shocking and cheap but let's not forget the success of signings under them have been massively improved. All right, Mr Glazerbot, Les. OK, shall we dismiss this one very, very quickly? Agarte was bought by Ineos. That's a bag of shit. Xerxe was bought by Ineos. That's a bag of shit. Le Mans was bought by Tony Cotan's brilliant scouting, and he was done right at the end of the window because Man United didn't want to buy a goalkeeper. Sesco was plan E, factually. Kunia and Embermo were both persuaded by Amorim, as per their own words.

58:03So Yoro was bought by INEOS and we don't even use him for 50 million pounds. So please tell me this amazing INEOS recruitment, pal, because I've just popped a hole in every single one of them. Mark, a bit off topic, but we have seen some positive outcomes from these international hydration breaks. Do you think they may bring them to the Premier League? They better not exploring adventures. Pogba being our most expensive signing says it all, says Marcus. And if we can, And do you agree that Chumini, Mainu and Bruno is a better, more balanced midfield than Tonali, Fernandes and Maddison?

58:39I do agree with you, May, but you're comparing a club that finished 17th with a club that finished 3rd. I would expect us to have a better midfield than Spurs. But we haven't bought Chumini yet. Actions don't speak louder than words in United's case, says Amet. they signed Carrick and who knows the club's history and vibes but are operating worlds apart we haven't had a successful academy graduate in years and that tells you all you need to know says Kyle even the Arsenal model for 10 years when they were building their stadium they still bought some players this model of ours now is unparalleled says Alamir I said we get disgruntled Foden and Odegaard says Kiel we should rock up to the Megastore en masse and demand a shirt for£10 which is a fair price says Chris well no bigger than that we should demand that the Glazers sell the club for four and a half billion, which is a fair price, instead of trying to outprice people who wanted to buy it.

59:33It's mad that some people put blind trust in an inexperienced CEO, director of football, an organization that has a bad record of managing football clubs. I think that's a great comment, Gandos. You know, I think there are a lot of stubborn United fans who just want to be proven right with their, you know, blind faith in, like you say, an inexperienced director of football an inexperienced CEO and two sets of owners who failed in football no protest first game this season says class of 99 we haven't got a transfer plan we have a financial plan and unfortunately this may continue until the stadium is built these owners don't care says Andy Atherton 185 million on the centre midfielders we should have bought and Spurs haven't sold anyone yet sell to buy only two centre midfielders and 50 plus games absolute incompetence and cowardice, says Paul Thompson.

1:00:26How are they going to convince Bruno to stay, says Jean.

1:00:33Bruno, right, I'll tell you a story about Bruno Fernandes, right? Bruno Fernandes is going to stay at Man United because he knows he can go to Saudi next year and he gets to play in the Champions League as the captain of Man United and he, you know, I don't think Bruno Fernandes is going to go, you've not been ambitious enough I'm going to leave he won't he won't he'll stay for the year Mateus Fernandes comments I'm very excited for the next step Tottenham is a massive club and the head coach was a key part why I've decided to join Bern we spoke it was very special we look at football in the same way going on to the pitch as a strong team with fight and energy to try and win every game I can't wait to get started to meet the fans to meet everyone and give everything for the club I mean God that is an absolute kick in the nuts to Man United isn't it and Carrick I suppose you know he's basically saying that Deserby was the key to why he joined um it was a special conversation and we look at football in the same way um

1:01:42Man United couldn't persuade him it's as simple as that

1:01:50I'm still seeing this clip go around about Bruno Fernandes saying we need to buy players that want to come to Manchester United I mean it's all great with hindsight but you must go and read the comments of Bruno Fernandes when Spurs wanted him at Sporting and he basically says I wanted to go so you know all this propaganda you know the propaganda to back Ineos and the Glazers will always come crashing down with truth yeah

1:02:29do you think if United had bought Tenali and Fernandes for those prices fans would be moaning I don't think I'd be moaning if Man United spent 180 million pounds on two midfielders we'd be sorted we'd have Tonali Fernandez and Edison some of our fans would moan because they've turned into accountants but Tonali was my midfielder that I wanted and I've said it for months so I'd be a hypocrite if I had a problem with it and I think£92 million is a fair price and Mateus Fernandes a lot of you wanted and if the data says he's the player I'll trust the club on it so if we'd bought Tonali and Fernandes I'd be sat here today going it's the 2nd of July let's move and you know what as well Mateus Fernandes and Tonali aren't at the World Cup so they'd be training next week which is, I mean, that's worth a few million straight away.

1:03:29Having Mateus Fernandes and Tonali for pre-season, that's got to be worth 10 million straight away. You know, they get to train with the team for six weeks before the season even starts. So it's a great question. If United had bought Tonali for 92 million and Mateus Fernandes for 85, I'd be sat here today going, let's fucking go. We've got Tonali, Fernandes and Edison with Mainu. let's fucking go I'd be very happy about it because you know Tenale is the one I wanted and Mateus Fernandes you know I'd trust you in the club that that's the guy you know um so no I'd be I'd be over the moon with that but it's they're at Spurs that's where they are um I mean Edison's not going to kick a ball in training for Man United until at least August the 5th and he's not kicking a ball he's like Mainu he's not kicking a ball for Brazil either you know it's a waste of time Mainu being with England and it's a waste of time Edison being with Brazil they're not even bloody playing good point about the Pogba price do you think United have PTSD with those huge prices because the way it works out with Paul Pogba pressure expectations says Kieran no I think we're just tight do you think Sir Jim has dismissed any further deals with George Mendes going forward, says Ashim.

1:04:53Well, we're stupid if we have. George Mendes is a useful person to help you get a deal over the line, but ultimately George Mendes will go where the money is. Are we still selling Xerxi? Great point, Lond. What is happening with Xerxi? I mean, is Xerxi not another example of a shit transfer window as well? This is a guy that should have been sat in Carrick's office at the end of May and told to find a club. This is a guy we don't use. This is a guy that Amron didn't use. This is a guy that Carrick doesn't use. This is a guy like Mason Mount, who's only positive is he gets on with the lads and people at Carrington.

1:05:30And this is a guy that's coming back for preseason and being given another year. Like he should be gone. He should have been told to go. But this is another example of United's incompetence. We don't even tell players to fucking leave. You know, I've not thought about Xerxes for weeks, but you've just reminded me. Why is he still at the football club? I like Xerxes, but everyone likes Xerxes. He's an ice guy. The players like Xerxes. The staff like Xerxes, but he ain't good enough, is he? And there's£30 million there. You know, it's not good enough to have Luke Shaw on£170 ,000 a week, crap at left back, Mason Mount on£250 ,000 a week, you know, modelling shirts, and Xerxes on whatever he's on, being everybody's mate.

1:06:18We need footballers, not cheerleaders. And I've heard nothing about Xerxes. And he's not at the World Cup either. So he's probably staying because nothing has been heard about him at all. Nothing. Anyway, a long show this morning. It's nearly 10 past 11. Apologies for that. We are back at two o 'clock. Be a very interesting show. I've got to be honest. I will be watching it with huge, huge scrutiny. because I want to know where the spin is going next. I want to know where United are going next because I'll tell you now, I don't think United know at the moment. Speak to you in a bit. Take care.

1:06:57Oh, tonight's show is at 7 because Spain are playing at 8. So it's a 7pm show tonight. Take care, everyone. Speak to you in a bit.

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