454: Tchouameni BID? Scott AND Summerville NEXT!

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0:38Developments around Real Madrid and how that impacts on Chumini. There's talk that we would be willing to spend up to£75 million on him. Do you believe that? We'll delve into that. Stuff from Spain, stuff from the UK as well. Also further developments on Alex Scott. Somerville ta-da it's Saar he's being mentioned as well for Manchester United and a few other bits to get into around Xerxes and the fullback position as well Friday morning as well a little bit about the World Cup if we've got time but look I just wanted to touch on something very very quickly at the start because this transfer window is no longer in June like things are happening I mean Spurs have signed about six players already while we're still saying it's very early in the window you know what Mark it's very early in the window.

1:24Stop moaning. It's very, very early in the window. It is not very early in the window. And just to give you an example of why it's not very early in the window, obviously, Anderson's gone to City. Tonali and Mateus Fernandes have gone to Spurs as well as three or four other players. We only have Edison. And it is very quiet for the first week in July. Now, predominantly, if you look at Man United over the last 13 years, most of our signings happen between the 1st of July and the 12th of July. Traditionally, that's when we do a lot of our deals. You think back to Van Gaal and Schneidlin, Schweinsteiger.

1:57This is the window. It's not happening. On top of that, remember a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned Torre, our Ivory Coast winger, plays on the left wing, had a very, very good season at Hoffenheim, was tentatively linked to us for about£40 million. I said he'd be a very interesting signing. He signed for Newcastle. That happened two days ago. I only found out about this last night on the Portugal stream. So deals are happening all over the place. I didn't even know he'd signed for Newcastle. So things are happening very, very quickly. But I want to start off with this from Jim. He says, Madrid's statement on Enzo Fernandes is not good for us.

2:35Yes, look, there's a lot. I hope you, hopefully many of you watched the show last night. I don't want to be right on this, but we have been ahead on the Cimini story from March. and you know it's been backed up by good people in the last few weeks but we said in March that Manchester United have held talks with Chumini's representatives and he'd be open to a move to Man United if Real Madrid want to sell him. United have sort of put it out there in the last few days about the price which always worries me. Last night I had stuff about how it's very unlikely that Chumini signs for Man United this summer, maybe next summer but very unlikely it happens this summer.

3:16Last night, stuff came out, I think it was Ben Jacobs, Fabrizio Romano, I'll tell you what he said in a minute about him being a dream signing for Manchester United. This morning, Real Madrid basically putting out a public statement respecting Chelsea and saying that they're not in Ferenzo Fernandes, there are no bids, there are no talks. So, effectively, who are Real Madrid signing in their midfield? And it's July 3rd. They won't sell anyone. if they haven't bought at least two players, I don't think. So I think Terrell wants David Ornstein to be sacked for saying that he said that United would be the busiest club this summer.

3:55He was predicting it, mate. And, you know, I think many people did predict that as well. So look, as it stands, Real Madrid are not selling any midfielder and it's the first week of July. They will sell before, they will buy before they sell and they're not in talks to buy anybody at the moment. So Chumini is playing for France tomorrow night in a World Cup game where they'll probably win and then he'll be playing next week and the week after. They may well win the World Cup, which means he'll be playing in it for another two weeks. There is no bid. There is no talks. There is no prospect of Chumini signing for Manchester United at the moment.

4:30And I would refer you to some of the stuff we've had this week from Man United journalists about Chumini talking about him being too expensive. I think that comes out because they know they can't get him. I think that comes out because they can't get hold of the player. So, look, there are a couple of bits, certainly, to just mention in relation to Chumini. But I would I would phrase it that, you know, Real Madrid have come out in the last few hours, you know, almost apologizing for the connections to Chelsea's Enzo Fernandes. So, you know, I stand by what I said before. So essentially what we've got around Chumini is that Ben Jacobs said last night that he could be available for around 70 million pounds.

5:20and Fabrizio Romano has said that Alex Scott is highlighted as one of Manchester United's internally highly rated midfield targets this summer alongside Chumini with Arsenal also liking him. So a couple of stories last night about the two names that Man United consider internally as fantastic options for the midfield are Chumini and Scott. Obviously, that's as of today. I think two weeks ago, we probably included players that have signed for other clubs now. But I'll repeat what I've said before. For me, I think we're almost entering the spin stage, like we're spiralling out of control because this is just regurgitation of stories that we've had for weeks and nothing's happened.

6:05And like I said, Chumini leaving Real Madrid and being open to a move to Manchester United has been known for three months and we've not done anything. And actually, in those three months, we're probably moving further and further away from doing the deal because Real Madrid haven't bought a midfielder and they're not linked to a midfielder at the moment. Chumini will be in the World Cup until the end of this month and then he'll have a holiday and then the Premier League will have started. so even if we tried to do a deal for him which is very unlikely you're not so you know we're talking right at the end of the of the transfer window even if we do it so it's not imminent we're not about to bid and effectively Man United have proven this summer transfer window that they can't knock on the door of a club that's not really a willing seller and get a deal done West Ham were a willing seller and we couldn't do it.

7:01Forest were a willing seller and we couldn't do it. Newcastle were a willing seller and we couldn't do it. At what point are we going to knock on the door of a club that doesn't want to sell? I mean, it's literally like those two magnets that won't go together. We can push as hard as we can, but they will never meet because club doesn't want to sell, Man United don't want to spend. How the hell is this going to happen? So I call spin on this with Chumini. You know, I know what I know. And I'm not saying that things can't change. I mean, Man United, fingers crossed, will abandon everything that they're doing around their pitiful approach to transfer fees and wages.

7:39I'd love them to drop 80 million pounds on the floor of the Bernabeu and 250 grand a week for two million and say, let's party. I'd love them to do that. And if they do, maybe that deal can happen. But we're not likely to do that. So I think it's almost getting to the point of I feel sorry for some of the good journalists that they're having to keep using the name of Chumini because I genuinely think and partially know that it's just not something that's imminent at the moment. So, and I would stick with what I said last night, it's deal off more than it's deal on. And I suppose that's the vacuum of what happens when you spend a month going after Mateus Fernandes and you almost get complacent.

8:23I think we've got complacent. I think when we look at Cunha and we look at Mbremo, those deals did take a long time, but we had the player buy-in and we knew in the end we'd get what we want. I think we thought we were going to get Mateus Fernandes. I thought we were like, oh, you know, look at all the fans moaning. Look at them moaning. In the end, we'll be absolutely fine. And we haven't ended up fine. And we've lost a month. And I think we're now going, just put a story out about Chimini. Just give Fabrizio a story about Chimini. We need more time. We need more time. And I don't think they know where they're going next.

8:57So I think with Chimini, yes, there's stories out of Spain again that he is for sale. But where are Real Madrid going and why would you sell Chumini at the moment? And I think that is becoming, it's exactly what I said last night. I don't think Real Madrid want to sell him. Why would you sell a player that's doing really well in the World Cup right now in a position who, and does a job that Mourinho loves. Mourinho loves that defensive midfield position. he hasn't got anybody else even if he got Rodri and Rodri does his knee he hasn't got anybody else I think their plan is to keep him and he will want to stay if they don't want him he'll come to Man United if they want him to stay he'll stay where he is so I think that's where it is Donate says guesswork bridge mate you're not going to rage bait me like I know where I know the information from and I know we were first on it three months ago so you can call it guesswork what I would acknowledge is is that if United put their arse into gear and offer£80 million for Chumini, they maybe will get him.

10:04But it's not guesswork, mate. I think the guesswork is what's going on externally about what Man United are going to do next. But believe what you like. It doesn't really bother me massively. Talking about Alex Scott, let's just pick up on this because Fabrizio also said that Scott is highlighted as one of Man United's internally highly rated midfielders with Arsenal also liking him as well After missing out on other players, both clubs, both Arsenal and Manchester United, view Scott positively. But Bournemouth currently insist on keeping the player and are offering him a new contract, meaning he's not for sale right now.

10:42However, if Bournemouth receives big proposals and opens the door to an exit, Arsenal and Man Utd are the two clubs to watch closely as keen suitors. Now, look, I like Fabrizio and he's just doing his job. But even in his own updates, it contradicts who we are. You know, he says Bournemouth are not selling Alex Scott at the moment and want him to sign a new contract. However, if there is big offers, they may open the door and Man United are watching the situation closely. But Man United and big offers don't go together, do they? and I agree with Stewart I don't think there's any chance of Alex Scott I really don't I don't think there's any chance of Chumini today and I don't think there's any chance of Alex Scott and hence the thumbnails spin I think United are in a downward spiral desperately trying to attach themselves onto something that will stop it where fans will go, this is not a mess but it's very obvious to me unless Alex Scott turns into a Anthony situation or an Isaac situation where he's refusing to train and he's demanding a move.

11:56I don't see how that develops. I really don't see how that develops. And I also would advise Alex Scott not to do that. I don't really like players who do that. I don't think it bodes well for them as a character to do that. I don't think that's a Manchester United player to shit on the club that gave you a platform to get a move. Some United fans love it. Some Man United fans love it when a player basically goes on strike to get a move to United. But that player could do that to us in three years' time to go to Real Madrid. So it's not really a trait I like. But unless that happens, that may be the only way this happens.

12:32If Alex Scott turns up to Bournemouth's training ground and says, I'm not training, I'm on strike, and he's walking around in the latest Man United kit, we probably will get him because the price will have to come down and Bournemouth will have to sell eventually. It might not happen till late August, but it would force a move. But, you know, that's not being good at transfers, is it? That's just being lucky. I mean, look, ultimately, Alex Scott becomes your director of football, not Jason Wilcox. If Alex Scott goes on strike saying, I want to sign for Man United, he basically does Jason Wilcox's job getting the price down doesn't he so I don't think that's very likely I don't think that's very likely at all but you know they're the two big stories this morning Chiumini and Alex Scott and honestly and there's another update from Simon Jones in the Daily Mail which I'll read you in a minute but honestly I think that I have to be honest we bring the news and we don't you know censor it and you can you make your own opinion up some people will go well I like this news I believe in this news.

13:37My opinion is that Chumini is a long way off being a deal that we can do. And I don't think we'll get it done. And Alex Scott, to me, is a harder deal to do than Mateus Fernandes because West Ham were a willing seller, albeit expensive. Bournemouth do not want to sell. Alex Scott has Arsenal interested in him. We had Spurs going for Mateus Fernandes. So I think on paper, Alex Scott's a harder deal to do than Mateus Fernandes. Now, if Man United abandon what they're about. Now, look, this is this is where I think Man United rescue their transfer window. If Man United abandon the we're not going to pay over 70 million pounds and we're not going to pay over 200 grand a week.

14:25They can sign Alex Scott, they can sign Cermini. But have they behaved like they're going to abandon what they're all about? I don't know. And I know ultimately that would be hypocrisy from the club, but that is what I think needs to happen. I think we need to abandon what we're all about if we're going to get these deals done. But look, honestly, I'll still say this to you now. I think in relation to Manchester United's next signing, and I know Ben Jacobs said something about this yesterday, I feel like United's next midfield signing isn't Alex Scott or Ciumini. I feel like there is another story that's going to come out where we're going to go towards somebody that maybe doesn't have a load of people after him that fits into our financial parameters, which is why I'm just throwing the name out Manu Kone, because I feel that he is a player that we spoke to last season that we really liked.

15:21he will definitely be under 70, 60 million pounds and his wages will definitely be under 200 grand a week. Maybe Sandeberg, maybe Belaber, but I feel they've got another player lined up. But it's not going to be marquee. Not going to be marquee, far from it. The piece on Simon Jones came out last night as well, Daily Mail. He basically said this, Manchester United have held, And I did do a video to this. I knocked it out in the early hours of the morning, the video. Manchester United have held exploratory talks with West Ham over signing Somerville, though any move depends on Rashford departing first.

16:03I mean, we'll come back to that. While their priority remains strengthening midfield after missing out on Mateus Fernandes. As they explore alternatives, United are expected to ask Bournemouth about the valuation and potential availability of highly rated young midfielder Alex Scott. as they consider their next steps in the transfer market. I personally think this is the best update we've had in a few days. Not because Simon Jones in the Daily Mail is better than David Ornstein or Fabrizio Romano or anyone like that, but because it gives us a snapshot of where we are. And I would imagine, I'm just bringing a poll for you about Somerville as well, because we're going to talk about him next and how we're obviously stuck already in a sell-to-buy situation, which pisses me off.

16:50But I like the update because it really does give a sense of the situation and the urgency that we have. Man United, priority remains the midfield after missing out on Mateus Fernandes. They are exploring alternatives and are expected to speak to Bournemouth about the valuation and availability of Scott as they consider their next steps in the transfer market. People, it's the 3rd of July. It's not the 3rd of August. Sorry, it's not the 3rd of April. It's not the 3rd of March. This should have been done then. This is preparatory work. You know, it's the 3rd of July and we're inquiring with Bournemouth about the valuation and availability of a midfielder.

17:34And we're considering what we want to do next on the 3rd of July. and that, I'm sorry, is panic stations. That is not good enough. This is a bit of a shit show because what we should be in is, and this is how I would do it, right? I've got Elliot Anderson, I've got Tonali, I've got Chimini, I've got Mateus Fernandes, I've got Alex Scott, right? They're my top five targets, yeah? I'm in talks with all of them. I'm preparing the deal with all of them. I'm speaking to Bournemouth already. I've got an idea of what Bournemouth want already. Well, yeah, but that's option five. If we end up with that, then we're in trouble.

18:17Yeah. But if we're in trouble, let's make sure we've done some legwork. It feels to me like we've dropped the ball in the sense that we're almost here in this week as a club going, we better speak to Bournemouth. We better go and speak to Bournemouth. And realistically, as many will you say, and I would call it Emily Derry FC because I remember her super chat. We've had 12 months. We know Casemiro was leaving in January. Like, why have we not compiled a list and progressed all those deals to a point where you can move from one to the other? I'm not saying have each of the players ready to sign for Man United because that's really harsh.

18:58But what I am saying is, you know, what difference does it make in mid-June to have spoken to Bournemouth about what the situation is with Alex Scott. Because if they say no in the middle of June, they're not going to say yes at the start of July. Why have we not had these talks with Bournemouth? Why have we not gone to Bournemouth and said, look, if we offer you£80 million for Alex Scott, will you do a deal? No. Okay. We know we've got to go north of that. If we offer you£75, will you do a deal? You know, these things are... What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here. And you know what's more American than America's 250th birthday?

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20:26by the start of July. They've obviously worked on at least three deals at once. They've definitely worked on Mateus Fernandes and Tonali at the same time. We can't work on one deal. We can't work on more than one deal. And if that deal comes crashing down, that's dead time. So I like the update from Simon Jones because it shows the priority is the midfield, but it also shows that we're sort of sat there this week going, what do we do next? What do we do next? And I think that, and I said this to you in May, I think Edison almost was a hint of our desperation this summer and our lack of foresight and our lack of planning.

21:08And I'll explain to you why. I think with Edison, what happened is we came into this summer not really very confident. we came into this summer knowing what we wanted but not thinking we could get it we've been scouting edison for four years maybe longer but certainly i remember doing a video on edison four years ago we go and sign edison right we were nowhere near edison in january he nearly signed for atletico madrid and we would if he'd done it we would have lost out but we go and sign edison right at the start of the window you know what i think that is i think that's opening up the database and going, there's a player we quite liked, but we never went for.

21:52There's a player where we've done all the scouting on. There's a player where we know everything about them. Do we go for them? And I think that's what they did. I think they went, we don't really know what we're doing here. We can't really get what we want. So let's look at our past scouting and find a player from there. Oh, there's Edison. And that doesn't make Edison a bad player, but it's a player where we've done the work on it already and I think we've gone let's take him I have a feeling we might do the same this week I have a feeling we may go back to data that we've used before and go let's take a punt on that which obviously brings Balaba back into it but also that's why I'm mentioning Manu Kone because I think Manu Kone I don't think United is stupid I think they know if they signed Balaba it would be expensive and a lot of people would be against it Manu Kone is a player that we looked at last summer.

22:43He will be in the data, the Ineos data, and I think they might move on that. Obviously, a lot of people in the chat are saying clearly it's going to be Belaba. The thing I'd say about Belaba that I think is the most damning thing as well, and I haven't really heard anybody talk about this, but we were talking about it on That's Football last night. If Belaba is so good, if Belaba is so good, why is the manager that got the best out of him and is at a club buying midfielders with a budget of£200 million, why has De Zerbe not gone for Balaba? If Balaba is so good and such a hidden gem, why is the manager that bought him and got the best out of him not gone for him?

23:31Spurs could have gone for Balaba and they went for Tonali and Fernandes instead. So I don't think we're going to go for Balaba. it's a nightmare and you know nightmares do come true at United but logically I don't think we will I also think that Brighton don't want to sell him this summer and I think Brighton would say to Manchester United hey Fernandes has just gone for 85 million Anderson's just gone for 116 million so the price of him may change it but look honestly what I would say this morning is that when it comes to a midfielder you've probably got as much idea as Fabrizio or David Ornstein at the moment.

24:09And that's not a criticism. They're the two best people who will know. I don't think United know themselves what they're about to do. So I certainly don't think any of the press do. And as I said, the two names that are being mentioned, Chumini and Scott, you're probably in the right place for the right conversation. Because as I said last night, Chumini, massively unlikely, massively unlikely, despite stories, massively unlikely. Because Real Madrid don't want to sell at the moment. they've got no other midfielder that they're buying at the moment Chumini would rather stay at Real Madrid than go anywhere he's got two years left on his contract so maybe it happens next summer he won't be back from the World Cup until the middle of August and United ain't about to start bidding for him so very unlikely probably not going to happen Alex Scott Bournemouth don't want to sell West Ham wanted to sell and we couldn't do a deal Forest wanted to sell and we couldn't do a deal Bournemouth don't even want to sell which adds another 10 million on straight away.

25:06If you've got a player that's worth 60 million but the club don't want to sell, you've got to add a premium on anyway. You can't walk up to any Premier League club and saying, hey, we like James Garner and we think his value is 50 million. Everton are going to go 75. Hey, we like Lewis Hall. We don't want to sell. Well, we think the price is 55 million. Yeah, we don't want to sell. It's 75. so we are not going to get a bargain out of Bournemouth we're just not going to get a bargain out of Bournemouth and I think that makes that deal virtually impossible so for me and that might be a personal take Chimini and Scott we're probably going to get a load of noise about them we might even get the ITKs out we might even get some journalists out but I think both those stories at the moment are spin spin in the sense that they're logical they're definitely logical and they're definitely two players we should be going for.

26:02But we haven't gone for the players we should go for this summer and I don't think it's about to change now. I'd love to be wrong, but I don't think I am. So where we're going to end up on our next two midfielders gets scary, doesn't it? I think Manu Kone is interesting. Maybe Stilla, you know, don't rule out Favell pushing that. And what happened last summer as well is on the striker, we didn't get Wilcox's De Lapp. We didn't get Amrim's Jokeres. we didn't get I think Amrind wanted Watkins as well if I remember correctly we couldn't afford Ossiman we ended up turning to Faval and going now it's up to you and he said Sesko so we might turn to Faval again and he might say Stilla so you know but I certainly think I think the biggest kick in the face or the nuts for Man United has been the story they've been telling about we won't overpay and look at what we did with Embermo and Kunja and none of those things are relevant this summer.

27:06There are no players that are desperate to sign for Man United and there are no Premier League players that fit that bill as well. So all this championing this season about, well, look at our recruitment. It's really good. We don't overpay and we go for Premier League proven players. Who are these Premier League proven players? Which did work. I put my hands in the air. Kunja and Mbremo, Premier League proven players, have worked well. We did end up in third place. They have worked well. But I think United patted themselves on the back so hard they've ended up in Europe in the sense that the market in the Premier League, they can't get value for money.

27:44So, you know, it's not going to happen. And also, even Beth yesterday quote tweeted a tweet about how Ineos, Glinios, whatever you want to call them, tried to claim a good summer transfer window last summer. Le Mans was bought on the final day of the window because the club wanted to keep Inanna or Biinder and it went wrong. So they listened to Tony Coton, the goalkeeping coach. Sesco was optioned E and they listened to Favell. And then Kunja and Bermot both did interviews saying how Amrim persuaded them to come. So, you know, there is no Ineos masterclass. It was literally all our signings and two of them literally said it.

28:35I mean, look, if you want to be honest with yourself, all right, you might not like Amrim as a coach, but Embermo and Cunha basically came out and said what Tonali and Fernandes have just said about De Zerbe. It was the project. It was the coach that got them to do it. Let me talk about Somerville next. Would you be happy with Somerville? 56 % of you say no. 44 % of you say yes. We're going to talk about him next. Marlo says you can't do many deals at once if you don't know what you are and what you want. It's hard to find a good gift for a person you don't know and love, says Marlo. Thank you.

29:10apparently gomez to madrid has collapsed says uh paul govia gomez i'm surviving on very little sleep paul um but i shouted you out the other day for some advice and i can't remember what it was i really am very forgetful at the moment because i haven't had enough sleep gomez to madrid who would gomez be i know enzo fernandez has collapsed can't think who gomez would be what about someone like Siddiqui at Sunderland again uh nudgeable I think you might be um not you might you might not be wrong about that you might not oh Paul you were the one who said 90 minute cycle naps for the win yes very good um João Gomez to Atletico Madrid has collapsed well if we end up with two Brazilian midfielders who don't start for Brazil for 40 million pounds I think that's not good enough.

30:11Yeah, I was thinking about Enzo Fernandes to Real Madrid. Paul's talking about Jao Gomez to Atletico Madrid. I mean, if we end up with Jao Gomez and Edison, I'm sorry, that's a bit shit. That's a little bit Everton again, isn't it? United makes me depressed, Mark. Carrick and no midfield. This channel keeps me going, says Dan. And likewise, I completely agree. At least, look, you know what? We say how it is here. actually just before I talk about some of them and go through your super chats I must read you this I got sent you this today and I want to preface this by saying I found this funny okay so there's a Twitter account called UTD Tribune right and I'm not slagging them off I just find this funny right they tweeted this Mark Goldbridge sits in front of a green screen in his home and collects your money he does not spend money on best in class or constantly look to improve his production and content he doesn't hire the best in class don't let him fool you so what what this person is saying and i don't know who it is because it's just an account um they're saying that because i sit here and agree with many of you that united is run badly they don't recruit best in class they don't have your best interests at heart and you know they're sinking the club I basically do the same so I sit behind a green screen first and foremost this ain't no green screen it's been a long time since we've been behind a green screen second of all he collects your money if people want a super chat we read them out and we have a debate but predominantly this content is free he does not spend money on best in class or constantly look to improve his production and content um well according to simon jones simon jordan i started off in my mom's bedroom we've now got a studio in manchester which costs a considerable amount of money a month um and i think we have upped out production and um i think we're always looking to improve um he doesn't hire best in class um we pay all our staff mate we're always looking for talent and to be fair is a is there not a lot of United stand, you know, versions from people that started off on here who decided to go and do their own thing and copy it.

32:35So, and they do reasonably well. So again, I would imagine that they do quite well. And also, mate, correct me if I'm wrong, but three months ago in our quest to be the best and improve, did we not sell a proportion of this business to somebody else to take it to the next level so we can get major investment in. So I'd say that we, you know, as much as that might be sarcasm or anything like that, I think we do run the United stand exactly how I'd like to see Man United run, to be honest with you. We do invest, we do look for investment and we do look to always be the best and move and innovate and develop talent as well.

33:14So I would like Manchester United to follow some of the principles of United and also without blowing my own trumpet and without blowing your own trumpet, I think we are best in class as well so I actually think the principles of what we've built with the United stand is best in class and I think we do do things that United should do and also when we had that Qatari moment we took it you know we didn't take on more debt or anything stupid like that so yes but of course I did find it funny because you know how you can compare a football fan channel to the way man united's been running to the ground is uh is quite funny but um of course on a serious note we're not being run properly uh manchester united we're not being run properly um and you know you shouldn't be comparing the way man united's run to the way a fan community is run you should be comparing the way manchester united's being run to Tottenham at the moment.

34:14And we're a long way behind. I'd love to be comparing us to Arsenal or Manchester City, but I think Tottenham, I think Tottenham actually, and I never thought I'd say these words, what Tottenham have done over the last three months is literally the blueprint for what we should have done. We should have gone out and got an experienced, manager, not a coach, a manager, because the Zerbe is running that recruitment process, not Tottenham's director of football. We should have done that. That's not Carrick's fault. Let's hope Carrick does well. And by now, we should have signed five key players and spent what it took to do it.

35:01And Spurs have done that. And I think that, you know, people talk about protests and removing the glazers, that's never going to happen. It's never going to happen. There's no appetite for it to happen. You know, fans would love it to happen, but no one knows how to make it happen. But if there was ever a need to look at how bad we are as a football club, just look at Tottenham. Look at what Tottenham have done in the last three months and that should have been us. And we've just sat there and watched a club that was fourth from bottom go and do exactly what we should have done. five or six players in very quickly, a manager that's being listened to and has the power and experience and pull to go and make it happen and money spent to improve the football club.

35:47And we've sat there and gone third place. And I tell you what, talk about the World Cup. Portugal were shit last night, in my opinion, and they took Bruno off and their goalkeeper was man of the match. But Bruno in this World Cup has been shocking. Now, I think that comes down to the coach. but I do think Portugal aren't getting the best out of Bruno but it just shows you Bruno's not Mr Invincible if things start to go wrong Bruno can play bad and that's what shit that's scaring me a lot Bruno's our best player and he's broken the assist record and I've got no reason to believe that won't continue next season but do not for one minute think that Bruno is invincible Watch him in this World Cup.

36:31If things start to go wrong around him, somebody said like, why doesn't somebody just man-mark Bruno Fernandes? I don't know. Because if you take Bruno out, what happens to Man United? It's scary. We are so, you know, we may as well be called Bruno United because without Bruno Fernandes next season, we ain't even in third. We're not even in the Champions League. Joel says, United board is similar to me. We think we are ambitious and manifest, but in reality, we're just a dreamer. The ones behind are ahead and we think there is still time. Never ending failures, says Joel. How far to you? Well, Joel, don't do yourself down.

37:10You know, we all know what Man United need to do to be successful. They just won't do it. You can do it, Joel. How far to you is Anana from Casemiro level, says Raz? I mean, that's a strange one. About as far as Edinburgh to the North Pole. I think United have ramped up their use of agents and bots in this chat. The amount of shit you get for criticising the board has increased manifold, says Marlowe. Marlowe, I mean, that's not really the world I operate in. But Jack says, Mark, Theo's top is from Selfridges. Yeah, but what's the brand, Jack? What's the brand? You know what, Marlowe, on that, it was something I noticed a few months ago.

37:52and as much as i would like to say you know you make a valid point bots are a real thing there used to be an influx of like porn bots on youtube about a year ago if you looked in the replies it was always an avatar with some you know a big pair of you know what's and i you know so you can get botted and you know you could argue it's in united's interest to have bot accounts out there promoting positivity. And maybe that does happen because logically, how you can batch this, how you can back the board on this situation is scary. But you know what, Marlo? There are actually Man United content creators who are rimming the glazes on a daily basis.

38:41Now, I don't know why they're doing that. I don't know why they're doing that. Maybe they're just mentally challenged when it comes to what's best for the football club. But they're not bots, as far as I know. So there are people out there that think everything's OK. So people say we need to convince players to come with the project. How can you convince them when this board has abandoned two projects in three years? Great point. Great point. Great point, Patrick. You know, down tools and force a move to Man United. yeah how's your projects going exactly good morning mark on the united stance as shane good morning pal thanks for being a member for five months is it just me does or does anyone else get the feeling tottenham are copying united's homework will united actually buy anyone not optimistic at all trevor i don't think you can accuse tottenham of copying our homework because if man united were sat there doing their homework with all the right answers and tottenham were over our shoulder writing them down.

39:41Tottenham have handed that homework in and got their results. We've done the homework, got everything right, and then gone and used it as toilet paper. We didn't hand it in. We didn't get a score. We've no planned style of play. At Middlesbrough, he had an out-and-out six. We seem to be shopping for a techie double pivot and a sitting destroyer. We're clueless, says John. Spaniard says, United are a dusted club living off past glories. Sit back and watch the Dezerbi dynasty up the Spurs. See, we're getting infiltrated by Spurs now.

40:12done that one done that one I don't understand why you would advise Scott not to push for a Man United move isn't that just wanting the club to fail says Ro

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41:21And then we've got United fans saying, I really hope Alex Scott shits on Bournemouth and puts a transfer request in and refuses to train so we can get him for cheap. And I'm sort like no why don't we just pay what Alex Scott's worth and he maintains being a good footballer with a you know the right attitude I don't want the wrong attitude players just because it's going to save us 20 million pounds and do Jason Wilcox's job for him I don't think it's I never think it's a good trait when a player is going on strike I don't I know it benefits us but I don't think in the long term it does it's the wrong traits for me I saw someone on X peddling the Martinez in midfield thing again after we missed out Fernandez and Tonali says one inch wonder well it's Masraoui at left back.

41:59You know, Xerxes is going to stay and be the backup striker. Martinez in the midfield, you know, square pegs in round holes again. Ryan says, Scott's not a six. He can play there, but he's an eight. And Patrick Lynch says, our parameters around signings are arbitrary that have locked us into speculation around certain targets. The only parameter that matters is price. Edison proves that. Not Premier League proven and he'll soon be 27. Yeah, I agree. I think what Patrick's basically saying is a lot of these parameters that United pedal are actually fake. What it really comes down to is how cheap are you?

42:34What happened with the 60 million parked for some end users swap? I don't know. I don't know. We might be using it for something else now. We all know we're getting belabor. Why didn't the club get him first? Now he's a panic buy and will cost us more than when we offered last year, says Dan. This window gives me horrible vibes from a few years ago when we bought Cavani and others as panic buys, says Owen. I hate unpredictable windows for us. It may keep us on our toes, but knowing what's going on ahead of time is better. Would you take Manzambi and Kone at this rate, says JSD. Look, I like that Manzambi and it's got nothing to do with the World Cup.

43:09And to be honest with you, I didn't even check what the score was in the Belgium game. Sorry, in the Switzerland game, but they did win 2-0

43:20against Algeria. So he's a good player. I mean, he played in the Europa League final, didn't he? And I think he looked like he was Freyberg's best player. so that's a yasabelle could be a great backup for sesco says ryan uh united only went for mateos fernandez because he had expressed admiration for bruno and the bad thought the board thought it would be an easy deal wanting players to do the work for them is embarrassing incompetence as marlo well i saw mateos fernandez do that thing where he was asked who is his favorite player and he's got a spurs shirt on as a new signing and he said bruno fernandez and some people said oh he's mocking us already i just think that's an indication of how bad we are at recruitment because if Mateus Fernandes's favourite player is Bruno Fernandes, how do you not sign him?

44:03Well, it's very simple. We didn't put the bid in. We didn't bid enough for us to get him because I think if we had bid the right amount of money, we would have got him. I think he would have chose Man United over Spurs if it was the same bid, but Spurs put a bid in that we wouldn't bid. So we walked. We walked away. you know it's a bit like you know you're in a dance you're in a nightclub you've had a dance with your dream girl someone else has had a dance with the dream girl she says i'll tell you in five minutes who's gonna get the next dance and the other one can do one but you walk off and don't wait for the result we walked away so if you don't offer the money you don't get the player do you I've seen this movie before Nigel De Chouamini says Lee Galdart Jeff says Hi Mark, would you sign New England's I don't know who that is, sorry Hello Mark, is it possible that you are the one who does the Ben Jacobs interview next week noticing that a lot of the supporters myself included aren't really deriving anything from his answers, says Bus Oh I can look at it, yeah I honestly think this board think we're stupid and think we're all distracted by the World Cup says Alexander.

45:14And Anto says, Bergvall's on eight, 60 grand a week at Spurs and transfer listed. Giao Gomez to Atletico Madrid is off. Not glamorous, but achievable considering the awful parameters. Anto, if we end up with Edison, Bergvall and Giao Gomez, that is shit. But it's better than nothing. But it's shit. It's shit. And if we end up buying Bergvall from Spurs to help them fund Tonali and Mateus Fernandes, then we really are Spurs' bitch. Like, it would be embarrassing. I do like Bergvot, but if we buy Bergvot to fund Spurs' Tonali and Mateus Fernandes, where are we in the food chain? We're below Spurs, aren't we?

45:55So, it would be embarrassing, but maybe that's about as good as we can do now. Real's statement on Enzo shows control. You know, I'd love to feed out, we want everyone letting fans get carried away, then to not back it up with a new signing, says Harv. And Ineos better if we're after old Glazer targets, says Mo. Mark, are the rumours true about United looking into Saar from Palace? Keep up with the entertainment on the World Cup streams. I've really enjoyed it, says Dino. Yeah, we had a good night last night. I'll tell you what, I'm knackered today though. I'm going to need a day's sleep today.

46:24But I wanted that game to go to extra time. I did. I felt so bad for Croatia, but I am tired today. Are the rumours about Saar true? We're going to talk about Somerville next.

46:40Patrick says Spurs basically doing what we should have done last summer with Amrim like him or not but we don't truly know what could have happened if he was backed like Roberto Deservey what manager has been sacked what sorry they've all been sacked what manager has been backed Patrick out of all the managers we've had did Mourinho truly get backed look I I saw Perisic show a bloody good goal at about 92 last night. That was the player that Mourinho wanted in his prime, didn't get, got the sack. How many players did Ten Hag really want? How many players did Oli really want? You know, he didn't want van der Beek.

47:14How many players did Amrim really want? We don't back managers and then they get sacked. I'm bored of saying it. I'm sure everybody else is. You know, Amrim's the problem. Oli's the problem. Ten Hag is the problem. Mourinho is the problem. but every single one of them didn't get plan A and B options very often. And they end up with the sack. And who causes that? The same people who fuck our summer up every year. The real problem at Man United is the same people messing up this summer transfer window. It's not actually the manager. It's the owners. And we're here every bloody year going around the same bloody cycle, hoping for something different to happen.

47:52OK, let me talk to you about Somerville. So numerous people talking about Jimmy Somerville, sorry, not Jimmy Somerville, Crescensio Somerville of West Ham coming to Manchester United. Apparently, we've held talks with West Ham about doing this. However, Simon Jones in the Daily Mail is saying that we would have to decide what we're doing with Rashford first. There is, excuse me, I'm surprised I've not done more of these, some of a sip of water.

48:23there is also a story coming in i think it was alex crook about sar from crystal palace ta-da it's so um so so so look um we are we are we are where we are um we're apparently holding talks with somerville at west ham um we might go for sar i actually thought tore of hoffenheim would have been an interesting one at a good price. He's going to Newcastle. If he goes to Newcastle and tears it up, we can take the piss out of United on that because I think he's a good signing, but we'll see what happens. With regards to Somerville, I think it's a bit of a meh signing, if I'm being completely honest.

49:03I did a video on it already, so I'm not going to delve into the player too much. We do need a right-footed winger, and he is a right-footed winger, but again, it feels a bit like an Everton signing. I don't feel like it's the sort of signing that you get up off your chair and go, we're back. It's cheap as well. I think he's a good player, but is it the sort of signing that takes Man United to winning the league? No, not for me. Is it the sort of signing that's going to make Man United win the Champions League? No, not for me. I think it's a decent signing. I don't think it's a particularly world-breaking signing.

49:42um but the most interesting part about it for me is actually um how we've got to sell to buy to do that so it's not something that's going to happen for a very long time is it it's um

50:05it's um

50:10we've got to decide what's happening with Rashford before we go for Somerville well correct me if I'm wrong Rashford's at a world cup and it doesn't seem to me like we're going to find out what's happening with Rashford anytime soon so effectively is this not just more spin. We're in talks with Somerville, but we can't do anything till we know what's happening with Rashford. We might not know what's happening with Rashford for two months.

50:44So what even is the Somerville story? One, I don't think it's massively exciting. And two, it's not like you're going to bid for him today because you've got to wait to see what's happening with Rashford. And we've already been down this road before. We're signing Agate, right and we know about it in july but it won't happen till we've got rid of mctominy mctominy doesn't get sold till the end of august we don't sign agate until the end of august so you know we're we want delitz and we want masraoui in july but we need to move some players on first we don't sign them till the middle of august so you know even if you're excited about somerville and fair play if you are it's clearly not going to be a deal that happens for a few weeks anyway so i go back to what I said after the Ciumini and Scott updates, which I just do not believe, it feels like we're not even in talks with anyone, you know?

51:37And we've proven again that we're still averaging four to six weeks from starting talks to getting a deal done. Mateus Fernandes, if he'd signed for Man United, it would have been about five weeks. We're not even in talks with anyone now. So I don't even know if we're going to sign anyone in early July like we normally do, because we're not in talks with anybody. And even if Somerville develops, you've still got to wait for Rashford to decide what he's doing before we can even move on that. There was one other thing on Xerxes that came in from The Athletic. On Xerxes, not aware of anything. Roma were interested in January.

52:20That's not a priority at the moment.

52:27So, you know, I mean, I mentioned this yesterday about Xerxe. Explain to me how Man United are happy with a player that has been poor for two years, not been used by the current manager, hasn't gone to the World Cup, could easily have been told to find a new club, explain to me why in the first week of July he's preparing to come back for pre-season like he's an important part of the squad. I just don't get it. I just don't get the Xerxes thing. Why he's not been told to go, I do not know. And look, he's happy at United. We know that. He's happy at United. He's happy being a bench player. So I think with Xerxes, Everywhere you look at the moment, there's not a lot to be happy about, is there?

53:20We're not moving players out. Obviously, Agarte got that bad injury at the weekend. Rashford's got to have his talks with United. Xerxes staying. Mount staying. Luke Shaw staying. Maguire's obviously signed a new contract. There's no prospect of anybody going out. And there's no prospect of anyone coming in at the moment. So at the moment, a transfer window is about selling and buying. And at the moment, it's an absolute shit show on both. It won't stay that way. We will move on somebody, which is why I keep mentioning Manu Kone, maybe a stiller, because I can't see it being Scott and I don't think it's going to, well, I don't think it's Chumini.

54:03What about Polinia? Well, yeah, let's go and get Polinia on loan, a player that Spurs don't want to keep. I mean, as I say, if we're behind Spurs in the food chain, let's go and get Sander Berg, you know? let's go and get Belaber De Zerbe didn't want him and he trained him the reason has the season has not started yet and it's already ruined says Stig the incompetence of the board has made me lose all hope for the season there is no desire says Stig Slazy says which players do you feel have increased their market value the most during the World Cup for me it might be Patrick Berg or Noosa from Norway says Slade I'd love Noosa at Man United I don't know why we're looking at bloody Somerville Noosa is 10 times the player and younger and will be better but you know again we're not looking that the right player.

54:45I can't see us signing a left winger with Rashford being here. Wouldn't be surprised if Carrick takes Rashford in. Do we have another yes man at the job? Says Alan. I think Carrick's a yes man, yeah. I don't think that's even an insult. Jake says, come on you Spurs, you've been food chained. Rail statement shows control, says Harv. Yes, done that one. Thank you. Okay, look, I'm absolutely exhausted. I do think I need to get a couple of sleep, a couple of hours sleep. Let me tell you what's coming up for the rest of the day. We've got a two o 'clock show, of course, from the studio. It's Australia against Egypt at seven o 'clock, which sort of messes up me doing an eight o 'clock show or a seven o 'clock show.

55:22So I'm actually going to do a nine o 'clock show on the United Stand tonight. So we'll be live at nine unless there's extra time, in which case we'll be live a little bit later. But we are doing an evening show, but it's going to be somewhere between nine and ten, depending on the Egypt, Australia, extra time or not, which is live on that football. after that and then doing the Argentina game at 11 o 'clock. So that's what the plan is today. Big weekend on the World Cup as well. Just actually, World Cup watch. No minutes for Deleu. No minutes for Maynou.

55:57Bruno got subbed.

56:02Obviously, Ahmad's on his way home. It's not, I don't think it's been a particularly good, Casemiro is not a Man United player anymore. or Edison's not getting any minutes. It's not actually been a great World Cup for Man United so far, has it? But look, in relation to Bruno, I think it's just Roberto Martinez is a shit coach. And effectively, I'm not that bothered. Kunja's doing well. Kunja's doing well, yeah. We are, you know, we use Bruno well. They don't know how to use Bruno. So, you know, I think that's what that's all about. Masraou is having a good World Cup as well but my point about Bruno was there was a point last night where I was like well Roberto Martinez doesn't know how to use him you can see he's frustrated if Portugal get knocked out Bruno would actually be back in pre-season training by the end of the month it's not going to happen now but you know there would have been a there would have been a bit of a positive Mira says we were speaking about a tier 1 a tier 2 and a tier 3 midfielder now there is no tier 1 it's totally gone I think this is I mean I sort of was alluding to this yesterday when it was on the shelf not on the shelf I was pointing at the shelf I don't think there is a tier one Casemiro replacement now I think they're all gone you're right I think they're all gone Ryan says can you shout out my friends Ryan Webb and Steany and ask them to come off Fortnite duos and that's from Ryan as well get off Fortnite duos what are you doing on that at 10.58 in the morning get a life um actually i'm just off to play fortnight duos um right okay thank you everybody for watching that was a bit of a battle for me today because uh i'm absolutely actually you know i'm surprised i can get sentences out um i'm i'm operating on hardly any sleep i need to catch up but um thank you so much for tuning in as always uh we are back at two uh i will be back with a live show later on tonight after the Egypt Australia game.

58:06And I will speak to her in a bit. Look, who knows? I think at some point, my positive, I'm going to try and end shows from now on with a positive thought for the day. Because there's a lot of negativity out there and it's not driven by us. That's driven by reality. My positive end for the day, I'm going to try and end every show positively from now on. My positive thought for the day is that at some point in the next few hours or days, Manchester United are going to land on the midfielder that we're actually going for. Now, you might not like the name of that, but, and it could be a Manu Kony, like I said, it could be an Angelo Stiller, it could be a Siddiqui from Sunderland.

58:45I don't believe it will be Alex Scott or Chomini. I don't think those deals are doable for us. But at some point in the next few hours or days, we will find out who the real target is for Man United next. And we will we're here to react. Thanks everyone for watching. Take care. I'm running out of words here. Stay safe and I'll speak to the next one.

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