455: Carrick's TRANSFER Chaos! Rashford, Scott, Tchouameni Man Utd Transfer News

0:00My fellow Americans, this July, we're celebrating America's birthday at Moto Casino by giving away 1 ,776 ,000 in prizes. And one lucky winner is going to take home 1 ,000 ,000 SC. Happy 250th birthday, America. You're welcome. Download Moto Casino today. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino. What were prohibited? No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino. America's social casino. Hi everybody, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news as we discuss the ongoing panic and mayhem around Manchester United summer transfer window, what it means for Michael Carrick.

0:44We've also got updates from Marcus Rashford directly from him and how that impacts Man United's transfer window, not just in the midfield, but everywhere else as well. Also, we've got some stories on Chumini, Alex Scott, Buwadi to delve into as well. But I want to, I actually, you know, obviously we're not really in the news show, are we? The news show is normally at 10 o 'clock. It's gone midday and we can probably fuse a bit of news with a bit of debate and turn it in more to an eight o 'clock show because there was something in the Manchester Evening News that I wanted to talk about instantly on the show this morning.

1:19And basically we will talk about what Rashford said and essentially he ain't going to do anything until August, which means the Somervilles of this world won't happen because if Fulham or Spurs put an offer in in any point in July for Somerville, we won't be able to put an offer in because we'll still have Rashford at the football club. So I think that, you know, that's worth talking about. The Chimini developments are following the path I said to you two days ago. So obviously we're getting good information on that. And Alex Scott seems to be the player that United are pushing, but I'm not convinced.

1:50I think there might be a little bit of spin about that. But I read this in the Manchester Evening News today and I really do want you to get your comments in if you're watching live or not and just give your instant reaction to this. So Manchester Evening News has always had good connections with people at the club. While social media is blowing up with anger, there is a sense of calm at Carrington and Old Trafford. I mean, what's your thoughts about that? We're all very frustrated, but there's a sense of calm at Carrington and Old Trafford. Point one, Manchester United fans are frustrated because they care.

2:21Frustration, panic, impatience is because you care. If you're sat there going, we're calm, I think straight away you've failed the test. if man united's board is calm and collected the first week in july based on what they've done in this window so far and what's happened around them then you know they don't care because i absolutely agree with any united fan that is frustrated and you know not calm at the moment because that's what winners do impatient you know if you're uh if you're running a marathon and you're not allowed to start the race and your rivals have are you going to sit there going we're calm and collected you're going to be going when can we start when can we start that doesn't make you a panicker.

3:00That doesn't make you a loser. That makes me somebody who's like seeing that you're losing the race and you want to get going. So being calm and collected just shows you the personality of people we have at this football club straight away, that they're not the right people. The decision not to match Tottenham's successful bid for Fernandes has fueled frustration amongst some fans, especially after the club walked away from a deal for Anderson as well. But the football structure built by Ineos has plenty of experience in key roles. And the message is there is no sense of panic. When recruitment was being led by Ed Woodward and United could be seen as a soft touch.

3:34And in this market, that might have been the case by now. So what they're basically saying is, is that yes, they've not bought Fernandes. Yes, they've not bought Anderson, but they're calm, they're collected. There's no sense of panic. And they actually think they're doing a great job compared to people like Ed Woodward, who would have written a big check by now and look i suppose that there's definitely people in the fan base who are you know really um certainly gonna back this sort of approach i absolutely agree that they will um and and you know we see them online all the time saying yeah throwing ridiculous things out there wow you know if people like you we would have still bought Maguire I don't get what the the point is all they do is they say wow look at what we did with Anthony you know we spent 90 million euros and we gave him 200 grand a week and it didn't work and that seems to be their argument for walking away from deals that would be absolutely fantastic for this football club but my big issue is, is that, you know, they're sat there saying we're not, you know, we're not panicking, we're calm and collected.

4:50But who is that actually benefiting? You know, who is that actually benefiting? If my dad's coming home, I'll be younger now, but if my dad's on the way home from work and he rings up and says, what's your McDonald's order? And I say, Big Mac meal, strawberry milkshake. And I'm excited while I'm watching, you know, the telly. And then he walks in and he hasn't got a McDonald's. And I'm like, where's the McDonald's? And he goes, it was too expensive. I'm not paying those prices. We'll just have beans on toast. You know, I can pat my dad on the back of the shoulders and go, why should you pay that dad?

5:26Well done. You keep that money to go down the pub later. Well done. Yeah, well done. Right. How does it fucking benefit me? How does it benefit me that you think it's too expensive to buy a McDonald's, which I wanted and was looking forward to. What do you want me to do? I'll do a fucking party. Do you want me to take my top off and run around the garden saying, yes, best dad ever? I mean, and this is what I mean. I get that United think that they're doing brilliant work by not paying the money for the players. But when you deep it, who does it actually benefit and why would we cheer for it? And this is where we seem to have got lost in the matrix.

6:05All we've had for the last few weeks is we won't pay these big prices anymore. And some of our fans cheering, screaming, you know, well done, well done. I've never been able to move past that analogy of you told us we were getting a McDonald's tea. I've given you my order. The door goes, you walk in, there's no McDonald's. And I'm asking you why. And you're saying because you don't want to pay those prices. I've just looked out the window. David and Peter, their dad's just come back with a massive bag of McDonald's. They're sat in the window eating it to go like this at me. What am I? I'm beans on toast.

6:44I'm getting mugged off. You told me you were getting me a bloody Big Mac meal. They're eating one across the road because they can afford it. We can afford it, but you want to keep it in the pocket to go down the pub. Not a bed. Get to bed. Don't care. You're grounded for a week. Don't care. Absolutely do not care. Two weeks. Good. Give me a month while you're at it. You can save some more money, you cheap twat. You know? And it's like, that's where I'm at with this whole, we're relaxed and we're calm. Let's not panic. And I see United fans cheerleading it. And I'm that person there going, hold on a minute.

7:19Oh, I get it, right? You don't want to pay for Fernandes. You don't want to pay for Anderson. I get it. But why am I supposed to cheerlead for it? Why am I supposed to pat you on the back and go, Why should you? Why should you? It doesn't benefit me at all to go, I'd love Elliot Anderson in our midfield. Oh, we're not bought him because you don't want to spend the money. Well, I'd love Mateus Fernandes in the midfield. Oh, we've not bought him because you don't want to spend the money. And you know that money that you're not spending? I know how it benefits you because you've got a stadium to build, you've got debt, you're billionaires, you know.

7:54But can I just ask one question while you're patting yourselves on the back and you're putting out your briefs to the journalists saying we won't be bullied in the market anymore. How the fuck does that benefit me? I mean, the last time I checked, we won't be bullied in the market isn't a trophy. You know, it isn't. And I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm really hungry. So again, I just wanted to start the show with that to say I'm absolutely baffled by these updates that keep coming out that, you know, we think we're doing a great job. Previous people would have spent money on big signings and we're not doing that.

8:33We won't be pushed around in the market anymore. Well, we won't be pushed around in the market anymore. You'll never sing that. You'll never sing that. You'll never sing that. We won't be pushed about in the market anymore. You'll never sing that. We want a fair price. We want a fair price. We want market value. We want it right now. You'll never sing that. I don't get what I'm supposed to be happy about, about a football club that's patting itself on the back, saying, great, win. I don't get it. I actually think I'm losing out as a fan because of this stance. I'd rather have owners like Man City.

9:13I'd rather have owners like Arsenal. I'd rather have owners like Spurs. I'd rather we had owners that went, we want to win, let's go and get players, you know? But we still have people in the fan base that don't have that stance. We need to be more ruthless. You know, we do, we do We need to be more ruthless I mean, success is being ruthless, isn't it? You know, you look at someone like Henry VIII He got married I'm sure he was very happy When he asked that person to marry him I'm sure on his wedding night He was very, very happy I'm sure for the first few months He was very, very happy But he got to a point Where he was like, I want that one And, you know, he's got advisors around him Saying, yeah, you can't do that There must be a way There must be a way there must be a way for me to get that one.

9:57Well, you'd have to do this thing and this. It's a bit immoral. Do it. But we'd have to lie. Do it. Okay, it's done. Marry them. And he was literally having his wife's heads chopped off. So I'm not saying that we've got to be like Henry VIII approach, but success is ruthless. It is. It's being ruthless. And it's not saying, I'm not buying you a McDonald's big meal, big Mac meal, even though I told you I was. It's not. Afternoon, everyone. The sense of calm just sounds like they are all on holiday, even though the overdraft is horrific. Where do we actually stand now? So we'll delve into that, Tom.

10:35We'll only get some of Ilkers of relegation clause, says Doc Robotnik. And Arshan says, so just because Ed Woodward wrote big checks for bad players, any of us are making that an example for not taking any checks for good players. How people fine with this? Exactly, exactly. It's all I've read. from anybody that backs this ownership is we can't keep spending big money on players. And I sort of sit there and go, do you go down the ladder and argue with idiots where they're specialists, or do you try and ignore them? Because they say we can't keep spending big money anymore because that hasn't worked.

11:13But then you say to them, how do you make Man United win the league? Oh, we need to buy better players. and you sort of go, yeah, I shouldn't have climbed down the ladder here. I'm surrounded by idiots. We need to walk away from big signings because we've been making big signings for 10 years and it hasn't worked. Okay, you've got my attention. How do we win the league? You need to make big signings, but you just told us to walk away from them. Yeah, but you can't get bullied in the market anymore. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You've told us to walk away from big signings because we've made so many mistakes.

11:48We're asking you now, how do we win the league? Well, you've got to make big signings, but you've just told us to walk away from them. Yeah, but you can't get bullied. You've got to make big signings where you're not bullied and they're cheap. So they're not big signings then, are they? Well, it's about the scouting. It's about following the data. Well, we just followed the data and we walked away. Get out. You're twisting my words. You're twisting my words. Glunios makes me not even want to watch United stand because all I see is a dire transfer window. Hope I'm wrong and you're all doing well, says Sadiq.

12:21Thank you, pal. Calm because they want top four. It's embarrassing, says All Johnson. And rivals break transfer records, says Ross McRae, magician. In the same week, we do an announcement video about new dugouts with 100k views on YouTube and we wonder why we fail, says Ross. Thank you very much. Hope this can help you get the McDonald's you've always dreamed of mark also does mrs goldbridge know about your admiration of henry the eighth says nicholas i don't admire him i think i actually i'm happy to state i think henry the eighth was a bit of a shit um you know i really do and i'm happy to say that you can you can clip me up on that you know i think henry the eighth was out of order bang out of order you know some of them women some of them wives got fitted up on lies and he was a shit.

13:09But if he was in charge of Man United, we'd be winning the league. Absolutely, we'd be winning the league. There ain't no way he'd be putting up. He wouldn't be looking at Man City and saying, let's do nothing because he clearly knew what he wanted and he was clearly going to get it no matter what he wanted. Afternoon. I can't believe we're talking about Henry VIII as our new CEO, but yeah. Afternoon, everyone. The sense of calm. Done that one. OK, right. Let's delve into some news, actual news, because I think that's what we want to talk about. And look, the ongoing thing, I think, for United at the moment is like what's going to happen next.

13:43I think what may be going under the radar a little bit is that Michael Carrick is being left exposed in a very, very big way. We need this to be front and centre more. And again, I think, you know, a lot of journalists are out at the World Cup at the moment, but I'm not so sure we get this story written anyway. I think modern journalistic trends are to be, you know, client journalists of the club, basically to take stuff from the club and repackage it to make them look good. I don't think we, I think, I mean, look, tell me three journalists around Man United that consistently write articles about the issues at the club because there's plenty.

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15:00If you get one a month, and considering there's probably about 10 articles a day written by numerous journalists about Man United, you're lucky if you get one a month that in any way, shape or form, shines a light on the issues at Manchester United. Well, if I was a journalist at the moment, the article I'd be writing would be about how exposed Michael Carrick is as a manager. And it would start off like this. Michael Carrick, a couple of years ago, was a manager of Middlesbrough in the Championship. He ultimately got sacked. He then stepped in to help Man United on a short-term interim basis, did very, very well with a very simplistic approach to playing football, got us into third place, secured the full-time job with a coaching staff that he put together in January, and is now going to take Man United into one of the biggest seasons we've had in years, also in the Champions League as well.

15:51Coupled with that, he sat there surveying one of the worst starts to a transfer window we've had in years. I do think Carrick is exposed at this moment in time. I think Michael Carrick is in very big trouble. And also, how reliant was he on Bruno Fernandes? I mean, if you take Bruno Fernandes out of that team or you man-mark Bruno Fernandes, what is Manchester United next season? So he needs reinforcements. the team at this moment is weaker now than it was at the end of the season. It is. Casemiro was one of our best players and we've replaced him with Edison. We are weaker today than we were at the last game of the season against Brighton.

16:32So he's not even starting from a standstill. He's starting from a weaker position than he was. So we need to get moving. Lots of people are talking about where we're going to go next. I think to summarise where we are this morning, I see a lot of talk about Chumini. Again, look, I'm starting to see certain people talk about what we mentioned 48 hours ago. We did it on Thursday night. The deal is off. if it was ever on the deal is off because man united have made it very very clear that they won't bid high for any player and real madrid will not consider selling chumini unless someone comes in with good money and and they're happy to go with what they've got and chumini will only push to leave real madrid if they want him to go he's happy to sign for manchester united but he's not happy to put a transfer request in at real madrid because ideally he'd want to stay at real Madrid.

17:27It's just the natural cycle that we saw with Varane and Casemiro. We don't want you here anymore. And you go, Man United is a good move for me, but if they want to keep him, he won't push for it. So Chiamini is very, very, very unlikely now. There is talk of Boadi, but I just, I'd like us to sign Boadi and we do need to do something reactive having been, you know, completely and utterly exposed by our feeble attempt to sign Anderson and Fernandes. we could move for Boadi but I think so much of that is dependent on how advanced PSG, Arsenal and everybody else is. I mean is their interest genuine in Boadi?

18:05Could we step in and do something creative? I mean there's talk that Lille want him back on loan for a year so again how does that work with Man United? If they want him on loan for a year you're going to probably have to pay big fee to stop that happening so again I just feel like Boadi could be a bit of spin. Then you end up with Alex Scott, who seems to be the player that everybody's pushing at the moment with no logic. Like there is no talks. There is no feeling out of United that we're moving on that deal. It just seems to me that journalists are going, well, Alex Scott would be good for Man United.

18:41Let's say it's going to be Alex Scott. I don't think it actually is. I hope I'm wrong because I do like the player, but I don't feel it is Alex Scott. I think Bournemouth are in a very strong position. They haven't been relegated. They've got European football. They've got Europa League football, in fact. They want to give him a new contract and we would have to pay big money there. So, you know, honestly, where we are at the moment is, well, God knows who it is. I mean, Manu Kone is going to play for France tonight. Maybe we'll be linked to him by midnight. I don't know. But yeah, it is concerning.

19:17And then on the other hand, you've got an update from Marcus Rashford, who was interviewed last night, and he basically said about his future, I was very clear I wanted any transfer done before the World Cup. If it's not, I want to wait until after the World Cup because I want to be fully present in this moment. We're fighting for something special here. So Rashford making it very clear that, and I think this comes down to power, Man United think they're in control of this situation. And Man United said to Barcelona, it's 25 million or nothing. There is no loan. We're not going to negotiate. But what Rashford's saying is, look, Barcelona wanted me back on loan.

19:59Man United are saying no. I'm now not doing anything Man United want me to do until I'm back in August. And at that point, we'll decide my future. So United have no control over this situation at all. Because even if United have an inquiry from a club that wants Rashford, he would be, I am not getting involved until after the World Cup, like I told you. So when it comes to Somerville or any other winger that we might have an opportunity to go for, we would have to buy them with Rashford still at the club, which we will never do. We will never do this. We will never go and buy a player for a position where we've still got the player that we're trying to get rid of.

20:41so essentially if you do want Somerville or you do want a left winger they're not going to be here for the start of the season they're not going to be here until probably the back end of August because the first few weeks of August are going to be sitting down with Rashford figuring out what we're going to do with him and that won't happen until England are out of the World Cup and even then there's going to be a holiday so yeah it kicks everything back again doesn't it and you I think ultimately the midfield is the big priority for all of us, isn't it? But it's a good job it's the priority really because we're not going to be able to move on anything else anyway.

21:24it's difficult at the moment to see what we're going to do anytime soon and certainly from the sort of messages and conversations you have I don't think David Ornstein or Fabrizio Romano is close to dropping anything significant around who we're going for in the midfield at the moment and maybe not next week. I feel they've got to do something quickly, but the problem with United is, is that because the list isn't there to just move down it, they've actually got to spend time figuring out what they're going to do next. And they can put it out there that they're calm and relaxed, but you shouldn't be calm and relaxed.

22:14You actually shouldn't. So Jim Radcliffe should not be calm and relaxed. I said this to you a few weeks ago. If I'm Sir Jim Radcliffe, I am not sitting there with Omar and Jason relaxed. I'm saying, fucking hell. I pay you good money. This is one of the biggest sports clubs in the world. What are we doing? We're not being calm and relaxed. Sort yourself out. It's bloody embarrassing. Calm and relaxed just, you know, facilitates incompetence, doesn't it? Shane says good morning Mark the board shouldn't be calm they spent all season saying they're going for Anderson and Weeks on Mateus Fernandes but didn't bid we're halfway through the transfer window needing a signing overall Glynios out says Shane well exactly I don't think we should be relaxed I don't and you know going back to what we were saying before about we're meant to sit here relaxed as fans and go yeah we're not overpaying anymore again please explain to me how it benefits us.

23:15Like when I was younger, right? On a Saturday night, we'd always have steak, chips, and the extras every Saturday night. Without fail, it was steak and chips and the extras every Saturday night. And the steak was from the local butchers and it was very nice. Imagine this scenario, right? I'm talking about Man United in the 90s. Every weekend, good team fighting for the title, right? Every Saturday night, steak and chips, lovely, right? You hit around 2013, you sit down for your steak and chips. It's not the same. It doesn't taste the same. It's not as good. You put your hand up. Mum, what's going on with this steak?

23:56Well, I'm paying the same price for it. In fact, it's more expensive at some shops, but I just don't go to that butcher's anymore because I can't be bothered to queue. So you're paying the same price, but it's not as good quality. No. Well, why don't you go back to that butcher's where it was working before? Oh no, we're not going to do that. We've got our own ideas. I'll try another one. I'll try another one. And every week it's not as good. And then today you're getting steak and chips and it's absolutely shit. It's not even as good as the one that wasn't as good. And you go, well, what's going on here?

24:31Well, I'm not paying them prices anymore. I'm not going back to the butchers there because it was too expensive I don't want to queue and I'm not going to the other places that weren't as good because that's too expensive so I'm just going to this place around the corner now it's really cheap yeah it tastes like fucking boots it tastes horrible and I'm meant to applaud that and that's a longer analogy but it's true in relation to United back in the 90s we were eating prime steak and we were loving it 10 years ago we started paying the same price for different steak that wasn't as good. Now we're eating shit steak that's cheap and we're meant to go, this is great.

25:10This is great. And I asked the question again, why would you applaud that? I know why the club are doing it. They're going cheap because they want to save money. But why would you ever applaud this? I want the prime steak. You know, I want the best. I want to pay for it as well. John Daly here. You know what day it is? Neither do I. I live life daily. That's why I only spend on Moto Casino. Moto's got daily free bonuses, daily tournaments, new slots added daily. And the best part, guaranteed daily jackpots. You can't beat that. So today's the day you're gripping to spend it with me on Moto. America's Social Casino.

25:47Play for free on Moto.us. Moto Casino, the social casino. We're prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Download the Moto Casino app today. Must be 21 plus. Moto Casino. America's Social Casino. It's not my fault. you were paying big prices for steak that wasn't good. You should follow the data. But we're applauding United for buying shit steak because it's cheap. It's a shambles. It's a mess. It's an absolute joke. And fans that are out there backing this are either stupid or facilitators of the Glazers because it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense to cheerlead this.

26:27it's chaotic it's cheap and it's why we fail it's why we've been nowhere near a league title and as for united having experienced people on the board experienced in what what are you experienced in like you know jason wilcox is the opposite of experience omar barrada worked at a football club as a coo not a ceo but he worked at a football club where they would buy the best you know they were in that butcher's buying the best how is it you know what's the point in a in recruiting somebody whose experience is buying the best and then bringing them into a football and saying you can't buy the best you've got to buy cheap shit what does that experience mean then so Jim Radcliffe's experienced he's experienced in fucking Nesop yeah the Glazers are experienced they're they are experienced in absolutely draining and ruining football clubs so where is the experience.

27:23And you do need to question stuff because you get stuff from the Manchester Evening News or The Athletic or whatever. I call propaganda. The club is calm and collected. They're not panicking. They've got experienced people on the board. No, you haven't. You haven't got experienced people on the board at all. Omar Barada worked at Man City, but he's not experienced in working in a shit show. He's experienced in working in a well-run club where they can write checks for the best in class so what experience has he got of this there is no experience there is no experience at all odds suggest rashford staying but i'm not so sure says robert i think there is a chance that rashford stays robert um to be honest i think it's more of a risk for rashford than it is for man united i would advise him to get a move um because he will be blamed that's a great point as well robert even though you didn't make it um if next season goes shit because of this summer transfer window, Rashford will be the one being booed in Old Trafford.

28:24And that's bang out of order, but you know it's true. Carrick's going to be the one they're going to be screaming and shouting to get the sack on the radio shows and online, and Rashford will be the player that gets the blame for it. And it won't be anything to do with Rashford, and it won't be anything to do with Carrick. But the way this works, because we've seen the movie before, a shit summer transfer window ends up with the manager and the players getting the blame. And, you know, that cycle doesn't seem to change. Dayen says, I'm still unable to fathom how Spurs, who nearly got relegated, have splashed almost 180 million on their midfield, but United are relaxed and calm.

29:00Well, and what's even better, Dayen, is that if Man United wanted to, they could spend 350 million pounds. And if they want to come out and challenge that, by all means, the floor is yours. Man United could actually spend 350 million pounds and not touch any fines or issues from the Premier League or the Champions League. So it's not even that we've got a transfer ban or we can't spend any more than 100. We factually could spend£300 million to£400 million on players this summer under the limitations. We ain't going to fucking do it, but we actually could. We're not walking away from Elliot Anderson or Mateus Fernandes because we can't afford it.

29:43we're walking away because we don't want to pay it two very different things good morning Mark the board shouldn't be calm they spent all last season saying they're going for Anderson and Weeks and I've done that one from Shane as well Mark Coughlin says I agree with what you're saying Mark but despite Ineos wanting him Fernandes would have been the wrong signing if that was going to be our only one yeah that's a different thing though Mark and I wouldn't argue with that like personally I'd prefer Scott to Fernandes. And if you don't rate Fernandes and you don't want to buy him, that's fine. But that's where you have to take out your own personal feelings and assess the truth.

30:22And the truth is, the data said Mateus Fernandes, Man United wanted Mateus Fernandes. And if they could have signed him, they would have done, regardless of whether you think he's good enough or not. They didn't not get him because they agree with you. They didn't not get him because they don't want to pay, which is something different.

30:42Roos says we, they made the mistakes, paid for bad transfers as well. And also, you know what? Again, I do get a little bit tired with we don't want to make mistakes of the past. But when you analyse those mistakes, the mistakes wasn't spending the money. Like the mistakes of the past was not spending hundreds of millions of pounds on players. That clearly wasn't the mistake. Because anybody, if you sat them down and said you're in charge of Man United, how do we win the league, would say we need to spend about half a billion on players. So the mistakes of the past wasn't spending the big money.

31:18The mistake of the past was the recruitment of those players was wrong. Like I wanted to sign Jadon Sancho, but I think if I'd been involved, I wouldn't have gone anywhere near him. If I'd done the homework, I wouldn't have gone anywhere near him. But as fans, we don't know the homework. We don't know the issues that were clearly there. Anthony, we should never have been doing that deal at that price. Never. But at the time as a fan, you're like, there's only a week left in the window. Anthony or nothing, get Anthony. So the issue is not, and never was, mistakes of the past wasn't spending hundreds of millions of pounds.

31:57It was how we spent it. It wasn't spending it. It was how we spent it. Because if I'm being honest, I think we need between half a billion and a billion spending on this squad to win the league. So the mistake of the past wasn't spending the money. It was how we spent it. But the club seemed to want to turn our fan base into a cult where we believe that spending money is bad. And it's not. And you can't argue with me on that. It seems to me that the club are trying to indoctrinate this fan base into spending money is bad, but it's not. Spending money on bad players is bad. Spending money on good players is good.

32:41You will improve because of it. And also going back to the experience thing, as I said before, Xerxi, flop, Ineos signing. Agate, flop, Ineos signing. Yoro, 50 million pounds, two years later, his fourth choice centre-back, Ineos signing. Cunha and Mbwemo, good signings, both persuaded by Amrim in their own words. Le Mons, weren't going to sign a goalkeeper, wanted to go with Anana Mbienda, weren't going to sign a goalkeeper, panicked by at the end of the window, listening to Tony Kooten, not really an Ineos signing. Sesko, fifth choice striker, wasn't the striker that Wilcox wanted, listened to Favell, he worked out.

33:18So, you know, this experience that we're talking about, you can find holes in it, easily. what do you think about Siddiqui says Scott look Manchester United are going to have to pivot somewhere in the midfield I believe it could be Manu Kone it could be Angelo Stilla I like both those players it could be Siddiqui it could be Enmica it could be somebody else and we'll have to support them absolutely it's not their fault but these are not this is not the midfield Man United were planning it's not it really isn't You know, what do you want for Christmas, kids? I really, really, really, really, really want a bike.

34:00I want this bike. Here it is. Leave it with me. You're at the shop. They've sold out. Get him this bike instead. Yeah, it's too expensive. Get him this bike instead. It's too expensive. I'm not paying that. Leave it with me. Christmas Day. Opens up the present. It's a doll's house. Your wife's looking at you going, what the fuck? that wasn't the plan. It's a bloody good doll's house. It's not the plan. It's just gone upstairs crying. And that's the problem. Wherever we go now, it's not the plan. We might get lucky, you know, instead of a doll's house, it might be a PlayStation 5 and might be over the moon.

34:43But what I'm saying is it's not a bike, is it? Wherever we go now, it wasn't the plan. And we plants a seed for the season ahead and we've had this in previous seasons when we know the board are delivering plan d and f it just makes you feel a bit pissed off you know compromise um we're already absolutely in a position of panic and we're already absolutely in a position of this is not the transfer window we were meant to go for i'm not even convinced edison was a midfielder we were meant to go for. I know buying him early in the window makes it feel like that, but we weren't even in for him in January.

35:25So I feel like, you know, we are going to do something, but I don't know. Dave says, I'm very relaxed about everything. Walking away from deals that are a joke is what we have sat here and asked for over the years. Dave, I'm sorry, mate. I actually feel quite pissed off by that comment because you've literally either turned up late or pressed the on button and not listened. I mean, you are exactly the problem with this fan base, Dave. Now, you might be doing it for a bit of rage bait, but you're relaxed. Walking away from deals is what we have sat here and asked for over the years. No, we haven't.

36:01No, we haven't. It's not what we know. We haven't asked for that at all, Dave. You're mixing things up. When Everton wants 70 million pounds for Jared Brantwaite and he's only worth 40, tell him to go fuck off. Absolutely do, right? But you don't do that with every deal, Dave. You don't do that with every deal. And this is where people like you are really thick because you are taking one deal like Brantwaite and going, well, we were all happy with walking away with that because it was the wrong deal. And you're going to apply it to everything now. And also, Dave, can you please explain to us, like the Big McNeil, like the steak, how the fuck does it benefit me as a United fan for the club to walk away from deals that they should be doing?

36:46How does this benefit me, Dave? Because what are we walking to? We're walking into panic, uncertainty and a shit show. Context is always going to be the key, Dave. Yes, if we're going to pay£100 million for bloody Harvey Barnes, we should walk away. We should walk away. But I don't think we should have walked away from Fernandes because the data said he was the right guy. I don't think we should have walked away from Elliot Anderson because the data said he was the right guy. They're not walking away for the reason you think, Dave. You think they're walking away because they don't want to pay the price for that player.

37:25They're walking away because they don't want to pay that price for any player. It's not just the Jared Brantways It's the Yamels It's the Tonalis It's the Chirminis We don't want to pay at all Well that's wrong You can't walk away from every deal And that's what we're doing Should we not go for a player like Stiless as Jack? I mean I do like it But you know I don't know whether we will I saw a tweet from a page called The Touchline Which was more than a million followers It was about Somerbilt only wanting to join United Kostav, I couldn't give a shit to be honest with you I mean, Man United would get very excited about that but I don't know about everybody else but I genuinely do not care about that a player only wants to join Man United is almost like the new definition of an idiot because this is what Man United want Man United want you to go he only wants to join for Man United brilliant, but what if he's not very good?

38:28so you've got a player here that's going to be one of the best players in the world and you've got a player here who's average this one needs convincing this one's begging it to come to united how do you think it's going to work out you've got mr average begging it to come to united and you've got potentially one of the best players in the world who needs convincing who should you sign well it's obviously the best player in the world isn't it some of our fans think we should sign mr average because he's running around in a pair of man united bloody Bob pajamas, you know? And this is what the club are promoting.

38:59We only want players who are desperate to come. As I said to you the other day, desperation in most things is best avoided. Yeah? Will you go out with me? I'm desperate. Will you lend me money? I'm desperate. Actually, that one's okay.

39:21But you know what I mean? Desperation is not necessarily the best trait to be attracted to. So thank you very much, of course, Steve. Thank you very much for that. What about the academy? The academy for me should always be a bonus, not a strategy. If we're going to use the academy to start for Man United, I think we're in big trouble, and I don't think we'll do that. Um, Suraj says, look at the contrast. Spurs spending record fees and increasing their wage bill while United are doing the opposite, especially when we need squad depth. Be very interesting. Look, Spurs are not a rival of Manchester United.

39:58Our rivals actually are Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool. So that's where we should be comparing ourselves. But it will be very interesting to see what happens with Spurs and Man United in the next two years. Considering our CEO says we're winning the league in the next two years, I'll be very interested to see what happens with Spurs in the next two years. because they're clearly going to keep this up and we're not you know spurs want to pay big wages and big fees to get best in class players we want to do the opposite so let's see over the next two years where spurs go and where man united go because if we're going to do it cheap but we finish above spurs then you know maybe there's something in that but we'll see um um teodore get screwed mate he was asking for a bit of uh an insult teodore swivel on it get screwed you're not welcome here anymore american sports owners don't care about fielding a good team they only care about that the fans keep paying it's just how much dollars they can make screw the fans says ad thank you very much pal um dave's back again that you know what i'm I want to apologise.

41:03Dave is a serial rage baiter. I'm just tired this morning and I forgot the name. Let me help you out, Mark. Well, I don't need help from an idiot, mate. So straight away, let me come back with that. 85 million for... Yeah, there we go. This is Dave for you, right? So Dave says, 85 million for a double relegation prospect is up there side by side line with the Brantwake deal. Dave, you're not intelligent enough for this community. You've just literally repeated what we answered 10 minutes ago and you've not listened to anything in the show. You don't want to sign Mateus Fernandes. I ain't got a problem with that.

41:36That's not the problem, Dave. The problem is Man United spent a month going for Mateus Fernandes based on the data that he was the midfielder to sign for. So we shouldn't have walked away. You could have walked away if you were the CEO and you don't like the player, but the club said this is the right player. You don't walk away from those players. You don't. And that's what you don't understand. You just don't rate Mateus Fernandes. If you're a simpleton and you can't put yourself into reality, that's absolutely fine. But you can't say we were right to walk away from Mateus Fernandes because Dave doesn't rate him.

42:14we did rate him as a club the data said go for him and we let spurs beat us that's embarrassing that's not following your own recruitment that's not following your own data we spent nine months telling the world we won elliot anderson and then we didn't bid because we don't want to spend the money this is a problem dave this is not walking away from shit players this is walking away because we don't want to pay big money for players anymore that's what we're saying you know Some people are agreeing with Dave because they don't rate Mateus Fernandes. That is the opinion of a moron because you're not actually understanding the situation.

42:50You're not on the board. You not liking Mateus Fernandes is not what happened. we didn't buy Mateus Fernandes because we don't want to pay over 70 million for anyone whether it's Lionel Messi, prime Ronaldo, prime Gareth Bale, prime Kimmich we don't want to pay over 70 million pounds that's a problem Dave that's a problem United's way says why aren't we selling Xerxi, Mount, Collier, Binder at least if we're not buying for now they aren't working on selling at least regardless um mount is on 150k a week not 250 he's on 250 mate i know what you're on about um also i would with this new parameters we wouldn't have bought bruno fernandez sunderland mentality okay that's enough of the internet for me um fucking hell wild absolutely wild you go from Dave to that.

43:51Fucking hell. I mean, yeah. All right. Thanks. Thanks, everyone. I'm on the That's Football at six o 'clock for Morocco against Canada. Looking forward to that. Then I'm back here at eight o 'clock and then we're doing France-Paraguay at ten o 'clock. Have a great day, everyone. It started off as a brilliant show. It dipped at the end. A little bit like Game of Thrones. Seven great seasons and then destroyed at the end. But don't worry about it. Thank you very much. Take care. I'll speak to you on in a bit.

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