459: Scott BID Ready! Santos NEXT?

0:01Hello everybody, good morning. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news as decision time for United seems to be pending on who we're going to go for in the midfield. We've got big updates around Alex Scott. Also some more around Ciamini and Santos from Romano. A few other bits as well. But let's dive straight into it because it's hot again this morning and, you know, we don't want to dwell on that, we want to get into this and we'd like to have some hot Manchester United news as well. Minty is good. No, that's just for a minute there.

0:34I thought somebody in the chat had an exclusive. It's just J1 talking about how we'd like Minty at Manchester United. Yeah, dream on. It's Brighton, mate. It's never going to happen. OK, let's delve into the show straight away then. So the big story this morning really is in relation to Alex Scott. Is this the player that Manchester United are now homing in on? So Ben Jacobs is saying keep an eye on Alex Scott and Manchester United. There's also a report coming in from Spain saying that Man United have offered Cermini a lucrative five-year deal. And Fabrizio Romano has given a Santos update as well.

1:07But we'll start off with Scott. This is what Ben Jacobs says. The Bournemouth midfielder is understood to be very high on United's shortlist and the club have already made an initial approach. Bournemouth's stance remains that Scott is not for sale with plans to offer him a new contract that would include a release clause for next summer. Despite that, clubs still believe a deal could be possible this summer. Man City, Arsenal, United interested. Bournemouth currently value Scott at around£80 million. Roots says it's a good deal. Look, I think that in relation to United right now, it's very hard to know what to believe.

1:48you know I'm sort of I'm sort of of the stance that if this transfer window goes the way I think it's going to go and remember what we were talking about at the end of last night's show if the transfer window is currently a one out of ten because we like to rank the transfer window if this transfer window is currently a one out of ten how the bloody hell are we going to get it from one out of ten to even an average six out of ten in you know from the 8th of July to the end of August. I think it's impossible. So I don't even know if United can even produce a decent transfer window anymore. What I would say is let's sit back and wait and see what they're going to do.

2:25However, if next season goes down the toilet because the midfield is shit, I hope that Wilcox and Barada and Sir Jim Radcliffe are going to sit and do an interview in front of the fans and say we're fucking useless. You know, put our hands up and say we're off. We're off, lads. We're absolutely shit because I've seen this before. I don't know why some of our fans are just so, you know, relaxed about it. I've seen this before. Man United finished second with Jose Mourinho. He wanted to go for it again and they produced an absolute dog shit summer transfer window and he was sacked by Christmas. He was.

2:59And look, you know, if you want to get a little bit nuanced, as about this, yes, Michael Carrick did very well from January to the end of the summer, to the end of the season, relying on park the bus tactics and counterattacking and Bruno centric football with one game a week. Mourinho, Amarim struggled, but he didn't get a midfielder. What if we'd bought a midfielder last summer? You know, maybe when we're trying to defend Leeds in the last 20 minutes and we've got Bruno and Casemiro with no legs and no positional sense, maybe if we'd bought a midfielder last summer, it might have worked out for Amarim as well.

3:29Oli as well. Maybe if we hadn't bought Van de Beek and bought him the player he wanted, maybe that would have worked out. Ten Hag, maybe if they got him the players, maybe it would work. There's a recurring theme at this football club where we always end up saying, Ten Hag out, Anrim out, Jose out, Oli out. And when you go back to it, the source of the problem is always the summer before. Always the summer before. So when this ends up with Kari Kauti's fucking useless, which he may well be, remember this summer transfer window, because this will be the cause. Like it was for Jose, like it was for Oli, like it was for Ten Hag, this summer transfer window is going down the toilet and people will forget.

4:09So what I want when this goes wrong, which it may well do, I want Wilcox and Barada to front up and say, yes, we got this wrong. But it'll get buried like a shit. It'll get buried like a cat shit. I guarantee you, always does, because the media will push against Carrick and they'll go hiding in the caves again. That's my stance at the moment, because I'm not impressed with this summer transfer window and I'm not impressed with the stories coming out this morning either. But look, maybe I'm moving away from a news show there. Anyway, Michael Thompson says, stop whinging, just give the news. It's a fair point.

4:42Okay, let me carry on. So in relation to Alex Scott, what do we think about this then? Man United, keep an eye on Alex Scott for Manchester United. The midfielder is very high on the list. Bournemouth don't want to sell, but Arsenal, Man City, United feel that there is a deal that can be done for around£80 million. I feel with Alex Scott I mean we'll talk about Chumini and Santos And somebody else in a moment I feel with Alex Scott It's the best deal we can do Now And that might be You know Revolutionary to some But I think that this is the best deal we can do Now It might be quite scary to some But what I mean is I think that from what I know and from what we're seeing, we can't get a better midfielder than him.

5:40And as look, as Polish says, Spurs, who are a joke, have run circles around us this summer. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think I think some people in our fan base are in denial. in the sense that I think they still think we can produce the marquee number one, the exciting number two, and the Edison number three. I think that there are some people out there that think we can still do it, to which I would say to those people, who are these players? Take a deep breath. Sobey the market. Give us three signings that make us happy. I don't think they're there. I already think it's over in that sense I think it's about what you can do To salvage a situation Because Tonali's gone Mateus Fernandes is gone Anderson is gone Bruno Gamera's we won't even look at And Mica we can't afford And Chumini Well we'll talk about him in a minute But he's not an option either So we can't For me Alex Scott's the best we can get And I'm not saying he's the answer not saying he's the answer at all I mean apparently follows Man City on Instagram you know um but I'm not saying he is the answer and and he may not be gettable but if we're being real he's the best option left because the shelves are emptying and United have you know refused to pay so for all those people that I mean and we should run a poll on this as well um would you be happy with Scott as our main signing.

7:24There we go. Yeah, I mean, look, I think that's it. I think that's our best chance of a big signing. And that will be our marquee signing. I like Alex Scott. The only thing I would say is I feel that my liking of Alex Scott is a bit nuanced. I don't think he's an obviously brilliant signing. I just like what I've seen in the last few months of the season in the way he plays for Bournemouth. I mean, this is not a guy that's, you know, playing for France in the midfield and Real Madrid. This is not a guy that's playing for England and had an amazing season at Forest. This is not a guy that's, you know, got people paying£85 million for him from West Ham.

8:04And this is not, you know, a midfielder that's, you know, Premier League and Champions League proven in a Newcastle midfield like Tonali and Bruno G. This is a guy that did well in an unbeaten Bournemouth side for the last few months of the season. So, and look, as King Walker says, I just don't think Scott and Maynou is it. I think you'd have to be very patient. I think you'd have to be very, very patient. And that reminds me of an article I want to talk about in a few minutes, which I think is brilliant. So, look, I like Scott, but I feel it's nuanced. I feel it's a bit niche. I don't feel like it's a, oh, he's an amazing player.

8:37I think there's a really good player there. but I don't think he's a marquee signing and I do think it could be an absolute disaster and there's no guarantee it works and I certainly don't think he you know that's the plan at the start of the summer and I think he's about 30 million pounds overpriced as well but that's the market I'm not going to moan about that so look I like the player I think it's the best we probably can get and that's not his fault it's not our fault that's Barada and co they've messed this summer transfer window up. So look, where I am is, I hope we can get him. I hope we can get him because I don't see anything else.

9:13I mean, where would I go instead of Scott?

9:20Seriously, we're being real, yeah? Where would I go instead of Scott? Well, we're not getting Chumini, so I'm not going to give you fantasy. So I can't put that forward. I'd go Bruno Gimérez, but I don't think we can do that anymore.

9:35you could pay the same for Adam Wharton you could pay the same for Enmica which I think probably would be quite a wise I'd probably go Enmica actually I know there's a bit of a risk there but I think he would be very good and he's experienced and he's champions they've proven I think Enmica might be the niche choice in a sense but I don't think we'll do that look we're scraping the barrel they're not bad players but they're not obviously marquee signings either. So look, interesting. I suppose the other interesting thing I would say as well about Scott is that Ben Jacobs is not a Man United journalist.

10:10Ben Jacobs is very good around Chelsea. Ben Jacobs has got good connections around Brighton and Bournemouth and Brentford. I mean, ultimately, I know how the transfer window works. I would presume Alex Scott is open to staying at Bournemouth and open to leaving. And I would presume that if you are Alex Scott's agent, and I don't know who it is, you're quite comfortable with this story developing because one way or another, you're going to get a good payout, whether it's going to be a new contract with Bournemouth and a release clause or a move. So I think that there might be a bit of mischievousness going on in the sense that I very much doubt this is Bournemouth on their hands and knees begging Man United not to bid and Man United being in a strong position to just go, we've got him.

11:03I would imagine if Alex Scott says he wants to go, that's where Bournemouth abandoned the new contract and basically say, right, if you want to go, let the talks begin. And they open the door to Arsenal and Liverpool and Man City and everybody comes in. So I think that's how I think this will play out. I certainly don't think it would be a quick deal for the United. But look, we've got to do something. And as much as I agree with people being fed up, and I completely, completely agree with you. And remember, I was the guy a month ago who was saying, I'm optimistic about this transfer window. And don't ask me that question now.

11:44But I understand the frustration, but we have got to do something. I don't agree with people who are saying we won't do something. We will do something. It's about what we do. And what would you rank a window of Scott, Santos and Edison out of 10. And I'm not saying that's going to be it, but imagine if it was Alex, Scott, Santos and Edison with Maynou. That's your midfield fall. What would you rank that out of 10? Because I tell you what, it's nowhere near the level it needs to be, but I probably would take it now because it could be a lot worse. I don't think that's easy. I don't think that's easy.

12:20If you think about it, Scott, 80 million with competition from big clubs. Santos, well, Chelsea want at least 50. And Edison, obviously, already here. I don't think that, you know, you might be looking at the end of August going, I tell you what, I'd have bloody loved Scott, Santos and Edison because it might be a lot worse come the end of August. So be careful what you wish for. I'm not saying it's good enough. It's not, but it might be the best we can get. I'd give it a five. A five. I think a five is fair. Six is average. Five, that would be below average for me. At the start of the window, I'd probably given it a four.

12:58At the end of the window, I might give it an eight because I'll never give it an eight. But that to me, I think it's worth bearing in mind now. I think, you know, somebody just said, how do you feel about the window? Unfortunately, I think the way I feel about the window is there's not a lot of point in being screaming and shouting and everything like that. It never really does serve a purpose, does it? I think that what we've got to do is, unfortunately, swallow the reality that the club doesn't have our best interests at heart. It's not ambitious. It's been absolutely bantered by Tottenham, if we're being honest.

13:34And we've got to get out of this window with something. So that's how I feel at the moment. I'm sort of like when you actually take that deep breath and you assess this window, you realise there is no happy ending. it's about getting what you can because we can't end up short. So we've got to walk out of this summer transfer window with two midfielders, a left back and an attacker. We have to. So it's what we can do and the quality might not be great. I mean, look, it seems to me like we're trying to glaze Somerville like he's the next bloody, you know, like he's the Dutch Messi or something like that.

14:13But look, yeah, we'll have to wait and see what happens but I don't think the Scott deal is easy but it does seem to me like it's sort of being pushed that that's the deal we're going to do and let me talk to you about Chumini because I want to get into some of your comments but there's a lot to get into this morning big things there's a topic I want to bring in as well and we will get time at the end of the show I read a really good piece and I'm going to shout out Dylan who wrote it with attacking football and it was about how and I think he may have phrased it that it's our fault a little bit, but is it even possible for a transfer that's not necessarily universally agreed with to be successful at United?

14:56Are players already finished at United now? If we sign Santos, most of the fan base don't want him. Edison, half the fan base don't want him. Is the environment at Man United now so toxic that it's virtually impossible for a signing to come in and do well anyway? and whose fault is that? I want to phrase that because we're going to talk about Santos in a moment but we're going to talk about Chimini next. Also, if you are watching live or you're not watching live, I'd love to know your comments about what you realistically, deep breath time, think we can achieve now because my stance is this World Cup is starting to come to the close now.

15:32Can't hide behind the 1am game saying we're tired, I can't think of you're hired. The reality is starting to bite. I don't think there's a lot left in the market. I don't think there's enough left in the market for United to have a good summer transfer window. I think it's about getting what we can and hoping that it works. So let me know what you think is achievable. Let me talk to you about Chumini because a couple of stories coming in about him. J. Felix Diaz, who some people want to say is credible, is basically saying that Man United have put a five-year deal on the table for Chumini and it's considered a very good offer.

16:11However, also from Madrid, Ramon Alvarez has come out and said that Tumini is part of Real Madrid's midfield plans for next season with Valverde, Goulet, Silva and Bellingham. The only midfielder who could leave if the right offer arrives is Camavinga and that would only happen if he changes his stance on staying at Manchester United. So contrasting reports coming out about that. Look, I'll be very, very consistent about this. Everything I'm hearing is that Chumini is staying at Real Madrid. Even Andy Mitten yesterday on his podcast said exactly what we said the week before and two weeks ago and two months ago.

17:04So if Real Madrid say to Chimini, you're up for sale, we don't want you here anymore, he would be open to joining Man United. That's it. That's the only thing we have. Right. And if Real Madrid did say that, it would be because they would want at least 80 million pounds and Chimini would want at least 250 grand a week. So, you know, that puts two huge barriers in place. One, Real Madrid are not willing to sell him. And two, if they did, we wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. So why this is circulating around the fan base, I don't know. I just genuinely don't know. I keep seeing clips. I keep seeing articles.

17:49And I know Man United generates interest. And I know the bloody, I don't even know what to call them anymore. the facilitators, you know, the people that facilitate the Glazers and Ineos by, you know, keeping them in power, by constantly giving them a chance. A lot of these people are doing this about Chimini, right? But I've seen this so many times. I've seen it so many times. Who remembers that summer where things were looking good? I think it was the summer that we bought Yoro and we were going, we bought Yoro and we were in for Agate and it was around this time. It was early July and we bought, we were buying Yoro and we were talking with Agate and then it came out from maybe Romano about Simmons and we were riding the fucking wave.

18:39You know, we're like Keanu Reeves in Point Break. We're living the bloody dream. We're high-fiving Patrick Swayze. We're going bloody, skydiving. We're loving it, right? And it came and went like it never happened. Agathe did happen, but right at the end of the window. Yoroh did happen, but Xavi Simons never happened. But it was there for about a week. We were doing videos on it. Romano was talking about it. Johnny Utah, FC, if you know, great film, good summer film, actually. If you want a good summer film to watch tonight when there's no World Cup football, watch Point Break. I'm envious. Brilliant, brilliant summer film.

19:16I might watch it with you. But the point is, this happens every year with Manchester United. We have legit stories and then there's an icing on the cake story to make you go, ooh, yeah. I genuinely think Chumini is this summer's Jabby Simons. It's thrown in there to almost, as a placebo, to make you feel positive about something that's not going to happen. You know? I think that's what it is. And if you don't know what a placebo is, it's like going to the bar with your mates, right, and getting a round of drinks in, and you get one mate a non-alcoholic beer, and he drinks it, and he's like, oh, I feel pissed, but there's no alcohol in it.

20:04It's psychological. In fact, I'll tell you a very true story. Some of you might remember this. I went on a lad's holiday to Magaluf when I was 18, and um you didn't used to go out till about midnight because that's when all the you know that's when everyone went out and i couldn't deal with this so you meant to you go on the beach you have something to eat you go back to your hotel room and you have a few hours sleep and i could never do it so i'd sit on the balcony right read a book whatever and um i went down to the local supermarket and every every every club you went into they give you free drinks they have this peach snaps, which I'd never had before.

20:42I was an 18 year old lad from Nottingham Shire and may as well have been from the Shire. So I was like a hobbit trying new things. And although I was six foot anyway, I get this bottle of peach snaps and get back to the balcony and I'm sat there reading my book, pouring myself peach snaps. Anyway, we'll go out at midnight and I'm like to the lads, I'm like, I'm absolutely fucking hammered. I am. I'm absolutely wasted. And then one of the lads goes, you're not. I said, I am. I've had half a bottle of peach snaps. And he goes, you're not wasted. You're not wasted at all. I said, I am. I've had half a bottle.

21:16I've had half a bottle. He said, he's not wasted at all because you know what? What did you do with the little bottle on the side of the peach snaps? I said, I threw it away. I didn't want it. I thought it was a taste of the cherry snaps or something like that. He says, that was the alcohol. You're meant to pour the alcohol in and mix the bottle up. You've took the little bottle of alcohol, thinking it's a tester and just started drinking non-alcoholic peach snaps. Well, I sobered up in seconds, but I had half a bottle of non-alcoholic peach snaps and I thought I was pissed. I thought it was wasted.

21:46I wasn't. And that's what I mean about a placebo. It's something you think is happening, but isn't happening. So I think that this is what United do all the time. We get that peach snaps, non-alcoholic. We get that Jabi Simons. We get that story every summer about a player that we think is going to happen that kills two or three weeks and we've got no chance of it happening. Chumini is that placebo. It's not fucking happening and it keeps circulating and it's not happening. We can't afford it and Real Madrid don't want to sell him. But you will see today people talking about it, making content, writing articles.

22:23It happening. And I couldn't goad the club anymore about this. I want them to go right. You can shove your peach snaps right up your arse. Jason, Jason, Jason, wake up, Jason. Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason, wake up, Jason. Get to Madrid. What do you mean your passport's run out? You're a director of football. Get to the passport office. Get to Madrid, get Chermini. I don't care how much it costs. Oh, you know, but Jim, Jim, you don't like spending money. Well, I tell you what, I do like spending money when you've got Manchester's maddest man on the scene. So get to bloody Madrid and we're going to shove that peach snaps right up his arse.

23:10I will love it. I will love that. I will goad the club openly and say, you're bullshit. You're a load of bullshitters. You're not in for Chermini. When we were linked to Romero, you came out publicly and leaked to all your journalists within nine hours that we weren't in for Romero. You could leak today that we're not in for Chumini and you won't do it because it's a placebo story. You like these stories. I bet United sat there with a big Cheshire cat grin on their face, like the bloody Joker, when they see that Felix guy saying that we're going to make a big offer for Chumini. I bet they sat there going, don't know where that's come from because we're not going to do it, but they'll love it.

23:51You've got to play the game. I've played the game. You've played the game. You know I'm right, right? They'll wake up in the morning and they'll go, send a casket of, not casket, you can tell I'm not posh. What's a collection of bottles of champagne? Like, get that Felix, Sean Dyche, a load of campers, because he's helped us out there. United could come out right now and say, we're not signing Chumini. It's not going to happen. They could get on the blower to Ornstein and say, not going to happen. But they won't do it because it's the placebo effect. It helps them. A case of champagne. That's what we, there we go.

24:30Magnum of champagne says Garfield. He's bloody loaded. A magnum of champagne from Garfield. He knows the lingo. He's played the game so yeah i i think that united could kill this chumini story really easily and we keep waking up every morning with thank god uh with stories about offers huge offers this that and the other it's bullshit it's bullshit i think it's contract negotiations from chumini's agent i've played the game if i'm the agent of chumini and i want a good wage and i want a long contract at Madrid. Man United are ready to make a bid. Oh, mic drop. Mark, how do you come up with this genius?

25:11Well, why haven't you come up with this genius? We want a new contract at Madrid. They're willing to negotiate. Oh, Man United are about to make a massive offer. A massive offer from Man United. Why are all the sources Spanish? Why is it not David Ornstein saying that Man United are about to make a massive offer for Chiamini? Why is it not Romano? Why is it not Ben Jacobs? Why is it not the Manchester Evening News? Because it's the Spanish journalists. Because I want a new contract at Madrid. Man United about to make a massive offer. We ain't in this game. And I tell you what, if by some miracle, we've wound United up this morning and they go, right, Jason, get over there.

25:58Well, that's a win. I will love it if we go and sign him, but I'm telling you now, it's complete and utter bollocks. Sorry, my camera's just overheating here and I do not want us to crash out. So, yeah, Chumini is not a possibility at all. Let's talk about Santos next. There is a story coming in in relation to him and it's from Fabrizio. So Fabrizio Romano is basically saying this about Santos.

26:31I feel like I'm on it this morning. Good stuff. Manchester United have spoken positively with Santos' agent multiple times since February. You know what? I just had this thought then. Manchester United think they've spoken positively with Andre Santos' agent multiple times since February. However, they've just discovered this is not the agent of Andre Santos and it's a fraudster. Didn't that actually happen to United? I mean, again, if I was a journalist, I'd go and really delve into this. Didn't we fly to Spain and have conversations with people we thought were Ander Herrera's agent a few years ago?

27:17Would not surprise me. Anyway, truth talks. Manchester United have spoken positively with Andre Santos's agent multiple times since February. Chelsea are not desperate to let him go, but would be open to big proposals. so effectively the situation with uh andre santos is that man united are interested um he's on the list somewhere um in relation to the data but chelsea is sort of like don't really want to sell him you know he's a useful player to have around as a squad player but if you give us beyond what we think he's worth we will take a look and then we can use that money to get somebody better that's basically the stance of Chelsea if we had somebody like this at Man United I could use it as a comparison I'm struggling to think of who it could be I can't think of anyone in our squad that sort of matches up to this situation I mean he's not as bad as Agate but he's not as good as Ahmad

28:22maybe Deleu you know maybe Deleu maybe someone like Deleu so if Man United don't want to sell Deleu he's a useful player to have around however if somebody came in and gave us 50 million for him we would sell him because we can get someone better i think that's the best example of chelsea stance and what's going on i think if you know you look at someone like the low i think he's in a similar situation to santos sometimes he starts sometimes people think he's not good enough to start i think if somebody came in and said we want to buy the low 40 million or 30 million you know i would say no he's not for sale i think if someone came in and said there's 50 million quid we go you know what we can get a better right back with 50 million quid let's do the deal so I think that's pretty much the situation with Chelsea but ultimately you end up having to overpay don't you and it's the you know I don't think Santos is worth 50 million quid I don't think he's really worth 40 I think for a player like that who's not broken into Chelsea's team and is 100 % just potential I think you I think 35 plus add-ons is the absolute limit I would go to there, in my opinion.

29:27Patrick Lynch says, whatever we get done now has an impact on the whole season. We don't do anything in January. So transfers now will be the squad for the season. Sad part is once the football starts, that's forgotten and it's all on Carrick. You know what, Patrick? Thanks very much for your super chat. I'm out of ideas here. I don't know what we can do because you know as well as I do, collectively, we've had this conversation for years. I remember saying it about Oli. I remember saying about Mourinho. I remember saying about Ten Hag. Every summer when it goes wrong, there's that statement of we can't be here at Christmas chanting for another manager to get sacked.

30:05We have to remember who's caused it. And every Christmas, everyone forgets. And it's always about the manager. I don't know what we do, Patrick. I don't know what we do to stop the pile on of Carrick at Christmas if it's going wrong and blame the people who should be blamed. I really, you know, I'm out of ideas because you know it's going to happen and they can always hide behind they cause the problems. And, you know, I absolutely do think that in essence, it's, I mean, technically it's just throwing a manager. Well, it's another manager under the bus. Technically, that's what it is. I didn't want to put it like that, but I suppose that's what it is.

30:55And if by Christmas or the end of the season we're not in Europe or things are going really, really badly, then ultimately how do these Prats stay in a job? I didn't want Carrick to get the job. I don't think a lot of you did. Who said give him the job? Jason Wilcox. Who's in charge of transfers? Jason Wilcox. Who's his boss? Omar Barada. Who's in charge of the football side of things? Sir Jim Radcliffe. there's a whole trail of stuff I didn't want to happen I didn't want Ineos I didn't want Carrick and I didn't want this summer transfer window so when this all if this all goes to shit will Sir Jim Madliff Omar Barada and Jason Wilcox front up to the fans and say we're responsible we're going you know will they front up to the fans and say we fucked the transfer window we fucked the club and we fucked Michael Carrick's career you know no they won't it'll be the same cycle again and it'll be, oh, we've got someone else exciting coming in now.

31:56Oh, he's at the wheel, you know, and the cycle continues. I don't know how you break the cycle. The cycle of Man United is we're just basically vibing it. We're hoping to get lucky again, like we did with Carrick, where you bring in a cheap interim and he gets us in the Champions League and credit to him for that. We looked out in January. we got lucky from January to summer that we landed on a coaching team that got us playing a style of football that got us into the Champions League it was lucky from a club perspective fair play to Carrick but we looked out right what you never do in life is this here's my life savings

32:42what are you going to bet it on black or red on the bloody poker table yeah everything on black right it comes in. Oh my God. I can't believe my luck. That's just saved my life. That's saved my life. Oh my God. Right. We're going to take this money and we're going to use it to make sure this never happens again. No, we're not. We're going to bet it all again. How many times are you going to, you know what I mean? I think we got lucky in January. If that had gone wrong, where are we now? We got lucky in January. We have this massive opportunity in the summer where it's really like, Let's make sure that never happens again.

33:18Let's use this money and make sure it never happens again. What are we doing? We're betting it all again on luck. I don't see the strategy for this season at all. It just looks like let's hope Bruno breaks the record again. Let's hope Harry Maguire scores a few headers from corners again. Let's hope Casemiro does it. Oh shit, forgot about him. He's gone. Don't worry about it. We'll just put someone tall in the midfield. Mason Mount. Mason Mount is an attacking midfielder. Put him in the midfield, he'll score the same goals in the midfield. To me, we are walking into a season where we're trying to get lucky and your luck will run out in football at some point.

33:59And maybe we do get lucky this season. Maybe we do finish third again. But if the strategy next season... The problem is this happens every summer. So even if we look out again and we get into third again, next summer will be the same. The strategy just seems to get worse. It's not like this is an isolated summer, is it? It's not like this is a summer where we're going, you know what, I'd give this summer a four out of 10. Oh, what, like last year and the year before that and the year before that. And as Patrick says, we won't spend in January either. Realistically, all our efforts should be going into how do we stop this from happening.

34:39But until that saviour comes along with a few billion and says to the fans, let's get these idiots out. I need your support. This is how we're going to do it. Let's get them out. Until we get that, nothing changes, you know? Scott did follow City, but does follow you, Mark? No, he doesn't. He definitely doesn't follow me. I know that for free. If he did follow me, he'd be a legend, but he doesn't.

35:11Let's have a look who he does follow. Alex Scott.

35:20He follows Nico. He's a Man United fan. He follows a Spurs fan, I know. He follows Anthony Gordon. Follows Theo Baker.

35:38Joe Tomlinson he's a Man United fan Ian Wright Rashford Elliot Anderson Lewis Hall Danny Aarons Danny's alright Maynou Bruno he's hard to tell on his follows because Taze also from the Bov Boys he's a City fan Adam Wharton

36:07Liam DeLapp? Oh, God. Don't sign him then. He follows Liam DeLapp. That's it. I'm out. I'm out. He follows Liam DeLapp. Don't go anywhere near him. I don't know how you can see whether he follows Man City.

36:32I don't know. I like him, he's a good player Don't worry, he won't follow me either says Robert McCormack Scott did follow, I've done that one from Chris Glinius will never take responsibility for this horrible window they will sack Carrick and say here we go again, says Chris This mess will be all on Amazon for us to see says John I mean that I think that look, you're about to he unfollowed City yesterday says Rez oh you can't you can't the thing is being serious you can't you can't take anything from instagram people like stuff people follow things you can't take anything like that and i think he's a tottenham fan anyway so but thankfully he won't be going to tottenham because they've already bought their midfielders um but you know what john o 'neill said there about amazon I think a lot of us thought that the Amazon thing might actually spark United into life, didn't we?

37:34You know, that was probably quite naive of us, to be honest. There is a load of PR spin. I just want to warn you, like there's a load of PR spin coming out tomorrow morning. There's a big reveal meeting consultation tomorrow morning. I say spin. It will end up being spin. I'm not saying to be fair to the club it's not really spin it's been planned for weeks there's a load of stuff coming out tomorrow morning around the stadium project so you know what happens then some of our fans get really excited you know we had a protest didn't we over a year ago um and then 48 hours later they put chat gbt pictures out about the stadium and everyone forgot about the protest so there's a load of new stadium stuff coming out tomorrow morning which is gonna you know I would say is tactically very well timed you know as I said if you if you if you strategically analyze Man United's transfer activity over the last decade we the the period of time where we sign players the most consistently is between the 4th of July and the 12th of July smack in the middle of the 4th of July and the 12th of July is the 9th of July and we are releasing a load of stuff on the new stadium.

38:47Is that a coincidence? Is that a distraction? I think it's quite a convenient time to release a load of stuff about a stadium at a time where you should be buying players. But tomorrow morning, I guarantee we'll be talking on the 10 o 'clock show about the stadium. Because there's a load of stuff coming out tomorrow morning. Peter Sukic from Inter Milan, all-round midfielders. This is Marco. I can't wait for the away and third kit releases, says Mike. I mean, even the kits don't have a lot of hype this year, do they? The new kit sort of came out. We wore it for Brighton. Normally, we'd have a load of leaks about the away kits and stuff like that.

39:36I just don't think there's a lot of excitement. I don't know whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, But United just seemed to me to have... It's almost like Christmas when you find out about Santa, isn't it? It didn't say either way. You know, it's the first one after. It doesn't feel the same around United. Considering we've qualified for the Champions League, I think this has got to be one of the most mediocre summers we've had. And I know we've had the World Cup and that can make a difference. But I remember when we had the World Cup or the Euros when we bought Pogba. And I was buzzing my tits off about United.

40:20I don't think the World Cup's an excuse. I think Carrick was a little bit of an appointment. And I think the transfer window has been one kick in the nuts after another. I think it's really flat around United at the moment. I really do. Man United are kings of we're not going to, not we did, says Anthony. Knowing the club, they will do a PR spin for Edison to divert away attention. Well, Razzli, you're not even wrong. There will be the usual tactic of, you know, Edison was here we go six weeks ago, but we'll have to go through Edison signs for United for another week at some point. Whenever they announce that, that's going to be an interview and a shirt and everything.

41:07So, yeah, that's going to take up a bit of time when that happens as well. Just one big joke, says Garfield. Thank you, sir. Why not get Scott and Stiller? For me, that's maybe a 6.5 with Edison as well, says Jared. Well, somebody did say in the chat, Jared, what would make you from this point in a realistic market give United higher than a 6? Realistic from this point? I don't know who the left back can be. So let's just pretend we're focusing on the midfield. if we could get and i don't include true meaning i i think i just it's not realistic anymore um if we could get scott and stiller i would probably give them a six average which from this point i think would be miraculous i think for us to get anything higher than a five in this summer transfer window with what's left in the window and what's left on the shelf i just can't see us doing it.

42:00But if we got Stiller and Scott to go with Maynou and Edison, you got half a chance. You got half a chance of something being exciting and developing. But even then, that's not necessarily great, is it?

42:18I still think the best option in the shop is Enmicha now. I think he's physically commanding He's experienced He's the right age profile But he's too expensive And I hate saying that Because that word should not be a factor When you're trying to rebuild him in field But he'll be out of our price range Hi Mark, every new season we're promised these great players And spin spin glazes out But I must say some panic buys saved us sometimes For embarrassment but I agree We need to get what's left Says Andrew McMaster Arena Nation World says Inspired by you Mark And we're starting podcast soon Ow The fuck

43:03I cut myself on a toenail Sorry Arena Nation World says I'm inspired by you Mark And we're starting podcast soon What's your take on United Not digging up some academy players To mould into the centre midfield CDM role Don't start podcast If you think that's a good idea not if it's about football um yeah i don't want to hear stuff like that mate on a serious like i don't want to hear stuff like that i don't want to hear let's dig up a young player and stick him in the midfield i mean that's just unfair on the young player unfair on the fans and another cheap stupid way to go about it um i don't i'm being serious like good luck with your podcast but i don't want to hear about a young player being thrown into the midfield i mean absolutely not no um a young player for me should be supplementary they shouldn't be part of the plan the least optimistic i've ever been during a transfer window uh good luck with your podcast though uh the kelvin says the least optimistic i've ever been during a transfer window owners are clowns and setting us up for a failure we all see it so why can't they says kelvin well i get asked this quite a lot actually why don't you rate barraja and wilcox and i say why do you raid them?

44:18Jason Wilcox played for Blackburn, worked at Man City. He's got nothing to do with Man United. He's not a Man United fan. He is a paid employee. Omar Barada was tweeting about anti-Man United stuff when he was at Man City in a competitive way. We've recruited him because he did well at Man City. He's not a Man United person either. We've bought two paid employees into a club that is not a club. Like we've basically gone and supposedly got best in class, but they're not united people. They're not fans. They don't know anything about the club. They're just professionals. And I'm sorry, I just don't think that works.

44:56I think some businesses you can go, just go and get me the best, right? But we're not a business. You know, if you've ever watched Yellowstone or Dutton Ranch, these people who have these ranches that have been around for hundreds of years. They live and breathe it. Can't just go and get this guy's really good at running things, bring him into Dutton Ranch. You've got to know about cattle. You've got to know about, you know, the whole scene. Our biggest mistake is we brought Baradha and Wilcox in, but they're just not, they're not united. They're not united people and they don't know. They don't get it.

45:32They just don't get it. They're just paid employees. And I think paid employees finish work at five and go and you know do whatever i think you've i think you've got to have people who know the football club we had we had we had a really good person working at the football club in nicky but nicky but was the was the was the connection between the youth and the first team listen to some of his interviews about why he left basically what i just said there there's too many people at that football club who don't get what the football club's all about we've lost that big time. Razzler says, we've been a laughing stock, lost out with Semenyu, lost out with Anderson and Mateus Fernandez.

46:14We'll give our rivals a lot of confidence in future transfer windows. Cameron says, Scott stays with his agent, will get two payouts if he stays at Bournemouth. Yes, Cameron, you're right. If he signs a new contract, payout. If he goes again next summer, payout if he goes this summer one payout you're right um if you're an agent it's christmas if you're getting new contracts and leaving definitely julio says i haven't slept in 24 hours i've got a clock into work in about an hour am i am i cooked like you know a transfer window make get you prioritize sleep you need to sleep uh hi mark aren't you surprised with all the noise around the premier league proven we haven't had a look at Uri Tillemans.

46:58I think he's a fantastic player, says Schob. Tillemans is not gettable. Tillemans is a fantastic player, but he's not gettable. I mean, you knock on the door of Villa and you're walking away with a£100 million price tag, whether he's worth it or not. What scares me the most is the lack of activity. What are they waiting for, says Artax. They're just waiting for Scott and Ciamini to sign a new contract, then sign Belaber, says Gaz.

47:26George says Hi Mark How are you doing? Getting enough sleep I love your videos Keep up the great work Oh I had a very good night's sleep Last night No 1am game Anthony Tracy says Will Scott Plan D Cost us more than Fernandez Thank you George For your message by the way Anthony We will pay More For less now If Elliot Anderson Was too expensive For us at 116 million he's probably about 15 million over price isn't he if Mateus Fernandez was too expensive for us he's probably about 20 million over price but that's your plan a and that's your plan b both were probably about 15 20 million over our budget right but you're now going to pay 20 million over price for your plan d e and f it just you know what i mean it doesn't make sense we're going to overpay for whoever we sign so you may as well overpay for plan a or b we're going to overpay for plan C, D or F.

48:23It doesn't make any sense to me. It's not even like one of you said about Mateus Fernandes. I was saying, we should just pay the 85. It is a lot of money, but the data says this is the player. We should pay it. And people were like, okay. But as one of you said, the principle of not overpaying only works if you walk away and get somebody else who's cheap. you can't walk away because you don't want to overpay and go for option d but still overpay and that's the problem here like we walked away from matthews fernandez because we didn't want to pay 85 million pound for a player that was very high on our list if we go to alex scott and give bournemouth 80 million you're basically paying the same as matthews fernandez for a player that you didn't really want as much so wherever we walk now we're going to pay more for a player that was lower down the list.

49:21Where's the balance in a Scott and Maynou midfield? Says Jord. Look, I like Scott. I like Maynou. But if we buy them, it goes on to my next topic, which I want to talk about. You make a good point, Jord. Brian says, I'm super frustrated with the transfer activity and reports that United will be busy as fans. These affect our mood again and again and again. Take care. Oh, mate, the mental health toll is real. Tarwin says, can you wish my son Ravnit a happy 8th birthday in Slough happy birthday hope you have a great day and hopefully I haven't sworn on the stream today which is probably unlikely but happy birthday have a great day I think we're going to have a reality check next season playing 3 games a week and miss out on Europe again when will our owners realise they need to spend says Muaz but look mate the increase in games probably won't hurt us till Christmas but January to May we saw the benefit of one game a week January to May this season let's see what happens I'm absolutely convinced we're going to have a really good start to the season I absolutely am convinced that even if we sign nobody we'll win a lot of games at the start of the season on the fact that we've got an easy start and everyone's in the same boat but when it will hurt us is when our thin squad becomes stretched and everybody else's squads aren't should be Wharton we need a good passer every successful team has one says Daniel if you don't understand United at least understand football Ranjik did but they got rid of him because he exposed their lack of football expertise and made them all look bad says Patrick spot on and imagine if Glynios would put the same effort into transfers as PR we would be a juggernaut get Chumini he's worth 250 to 300k a week plus Stilla says Carlo ironically looking like Glaze is better than Ineos says class of 99 and hopefully Amazon will persuade Carrick to look really angry in pre-season at the lack of signings.

51:18Channel his inner Jose, say we're finished, says Nick P. Well, watch the show last night where we get Carrick's quotes about how we're really close to being a big team and we've got a great squad. Carrick ain't doing that. Christian says, hope everyone's doing well. The best working department at United is the PR department. Maybe we should send them out to do transfers. watch back when Amarim sacked scary how right you are says Setem there is a video on this channel it's only 10 minutes long it's a frosty it might make you feel a bit cooler in the hot weather it's called no way back it was in January it was right after Amarim got sacked I sat in my garden in a cold and frosty January afternoon and basically predicted this um yeah i know i know exactly what you're talking about tada it's rabio and sar says aditcho uh george says this has been happening for the past 10 years nothing is going to happen that is exciting until we get people who care why don't our owners care did you see my earlier super chat i did um look let me just i wanted to just get your thoughts on this now look the thing about me is i read a lot and i i don't ever sort of just go with oh i'm not gonna i'm not gonna take notice of that um there was an article that um let me just see if i can find it here it is so

52:54so it was dylan mcbennett who wrote it and he writes for attacking football um and he basically said a look at the toxic spider web that is the online man united fan base and how it's horrible atmosphere for any new signing to come into and essentially it's sort of like there is a section of our fan base that is never going to give a new signing a chance anyway um and they make their mind upon a player before they've even signed and then they'll actively pursue that player before they'd even signed so that it's virtually impossible for them to succeed. I saw this with Agate and look, ultimately, Agate has been a flop, but before Agate even kicked a ball, he had a nickname and I think we all know what it was.

53:46I've seen it with Dorgue as well. People were calling him dog shit. Well, Dorgue's ended up being a good player. Agate's ended up being a bad player. So these people aren't right. They might be right about Agate, but they're wrong about Dorgu. But what is right, because it's happening, is that we're signing players these days and certain sections of our fan base are going after them before they've even kicked a ball. Who's at fault? Manchester United. Manchester United, this is not the online community. This is not the fans' fault. A fan base is created by its club. Man City's fan base doesn't go after its players because they are spoiled by their owners.

54:29Arsenal fans don't go after their players anymore because they have competent owners. You can't blame Man Utd fans for making their minds up about players before they've even been signed. Because if we signed Jamal,

54:47then I think everybody would be very, very excited. But if you sign Edison, you end up with people going, he's 27, he's never played in the Premier League, he's cheap, this, that and the other. but it's a clear and present danger which is also another good summer watch if you want to watch it if we end up with Scott and Santos and Edison there are three signings there with varying levels of I didn't want him, I didn't want him, I didn't want him the club create this problem but they don't acknowledge the problem if you buy mediocre players or if you buy divisive players you're setting them up to fail if we'd bought Tonali there'd have been nobody going well he's a load of shit boo if you bought Eli Anderson the same if you bought Mateus Fernandes the same if you go and buy Santos people will go I don't want that Chelsea load of shit and from day one he's not popular so I agree that there is this section of the fan base that just won't give a signing a new a chance but whose fault really is it I think it's the club's fault but I acknowledge the article I acknowledge the point and I think it's a good point because it could be something that really comes home to roost that our football club is not a place for development and patience anymore it can be in the future but you can't buy prospects at United anymore you can't look at Dorgue He's done well to come out the other end, but he was being written off.

56:30Look at Agate, he got written off. Look at Yoro, people are writing him off. We are not a football club, no matter how much we spend on players that should be bringing in prospects or potential. The fan base is fed up a bit. We want players that are ready now. And also, you can't let Casemiro go and then replace him with a prospect. I mean, who replaces one of the most experienced players in the league who is producing man-of-the-match performances on the regular and is a leader. Who replaces him with Santos or Edison, you know? So the club are creating this. But I absolutely acknowledge it because I think it's a problem.

57:06If we keep buying players that half the fan base don't really want, then half the fan base are going to be on their case from the start. But whose fault's that? That's a lack of ambition. If you make exciting, ambitious signings, the fan base will be excited. If you make mediocre, divisive signings, the fan base will be split. You can't blame the fans. ultimately fans are passionate people you you excite them and show ambition they will be excited you know you don't show ambition you they won't be so it's on the club um somebody just said there's some true mini news the only news i can see coming in is from mefc mpb speaking about what we spoke about half an hour ago that man united um like true mini but he will stay at Madrid next season.

57:52I told you this last Thursday. I told you this last Thursday.

58:04Right. Great show. Loved it. Loved it. I don't put Chumini as realistic now. Every time I see a story about him, I sort of like, I just check out. It's the placebo. It's the peach snaps without the alcohol. If you know, you know. Great show today, everybody. Thank you so much. We're back in our normal eight o 'clock show tonight because there is no World Cup games tonight. It's a day off from the World Cup, the first one. Brilliant show. Thank you so much. I'll speak to you all in a bit. Take care.