466: Camavinga TALKS Begin! Kone TRANSFER Exclusive!

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0:39Camavinga talks for Manchester United. Have we agreed a fee for Kone? And last night, you know, we had Romano talking about Camavinga, but also talking about Kone talks. If you follow the United Stand, that will be slow sports news. July the 2nd, I said, keep an eye on Manu Kone. That was two weeks ago. We're well sourced on this. We can give you the exclusive latest on it. Also, a few other bits as well around Stilla this morning. And also, where is this Alessandro Martinez story coming from? We'll talk about that as well. But look, interestingly, a lot of people talking about Camavinga. I do want to get in there.

1:15I mean, we may as well just say, would you sign Camavinga as an early poll if you're watching live? Would you sign Camavinga? I mean, we have said, look, I know we're in talks with Kone we spoke about that at the weekend I know those talks are ongoing I know no decision has been made yet I know there's another midfielder I don't know who that other midfielder is what I would say about Kone though is that and Chumini is that any so-called footballing expert or United fan who watched the France game last night and decided that Kone and Chumini would not be good for Man United you should be in shame this morning you should be doing the walk of shame somewhere because how can you judge somebody on 45 minutes?

1:55How can you judge somebody on 90 minutes? And how can you miss a tactical error of that magnitude by Deschamps? If you play two midfielders against Rodri, Olmo and Ruiz, you will get murdered in a footballing sense no matter who you are. That could be Kimmich and Valverde and they'll get destroyed because Deschamps bottled it and didn't bring Cherki on until it was too late to match up three for three. They got apps. It's like such a piece of piss for Spain last night. It doesn't matter who the two are. You're going to look crap because you're going to get passed around. That's what happened. So, yeah, I wouldn't be judging Kone or Chiamini on that.

2:38I mean, anybody who watched the game with us on That's Football, it was incredible how Dechamps just left two midfielders against three for 70 minutes. Cost them a semi-farm. But probably bottled it because he didn't dare take off Belize, Dembele or Mbappe to make the tactical switch. But look, let's talk. Let's talk. I'm also aware of, can you do a hot-o-meter on Kone? We will get a hot-o-meter back tomorrow. That's a good idea. But we've sort of, it went on holiday and never came back after the terrible start to the window. I don't know whether it's AI or I don't know whether it's Rio Fairyland being a prat, but there is a little clip going around where Rio has spoken about Romano saying that Man United have agreed a 45 million deal.

3:19for Kone. They haven't. It could be AI. It could be Ryo being a prat. I mean, at the end of the day, either way, you just don't know because this is the guy who sits there pretending he's got sources. This is the guy saying, I'm hearing its guitar. What I would say is anything that comes out of his mouth, you've just got to think about, get the contract. I'm hearing its guitar. Whether it's AI or not, it's not true. We haven't agreed a fee for Kone. We're not at that stage with Kone. So, you know, not happening. What I can tell you exclusively about Kone is what I've told you a couple of times already with a little bit of extra.

3:56Man United do like the player. There's a little bit of reluctance in the board because they prefer prospects and Kone is 25. I can't say who that is on the board because it's unfair, but there is people who like Kone and Omar Barada has a very good relationship with Kone's representatives. So we have held talks. I said that on Saturday that we'd held talks and it's funny how David Ornstein or Romano have confirmed that yesterday. So, you know, obviously that's good information. We said two weeks ago, keep an eye on Kone and now lo and behold, two weeks later, it's coming out. We're not at a point yet where it's going to happen.

4:35Kone is still going to be staying in the United States because France have a third place game on Saturday. Talks are still progressing, but even from Kone's side, there is a belief that United are talking to somebody else. So we're not at decision time yet. We are definitely in talks and that's come out and that is true. Kone's definitely one to watch, as we said two weeks ago, and that is true. I think where we are in the window, it's a good signing. I mean it's not Trumini it's not Tonali and it's not Elliot Anderson and we're not going to get anybody like that I don't believe we can get a marquee signing anymore but in the balance of the midfield we've got I think Kone offers something very very different he's got good ball carrying he's very good at passing and he's got a ridiculous engine so I think he would offer something very different to Santos and Tillemans and Maynou and he's at a reasonable price and United will like all of those things and he's at a reasonable wage So he's definitely a player United like, but there is another player.

5:36There is another player and we will have to wait and see how it plays out. But he's definitely, definitely in talks with United. And, you know, we'll bring you the latest when it develops beyond that. In relation to Kamavinga, look, I don't know anything about this. I mean, I'm literally just going to read this out. And, you know, whilst certain people don't credit us for having that information way before anybody else. That's why I don't like the IT game, ITK game, because people decide who to credit and who not. And, you know, they're out there just claiming information themselves. That's the world we live in.

6:08But I don't know anything about Camavinga, so I will give credit to Romano, even if it's not always reciprocal. Camavinga has been mentioned internally alongside Kone. A deal for him will be possible if he decides to leave Real Madrid. United want a defensive midfielder who can run, do the dirty work and do it with intensity. as well as Manu Kone Kamavinga has been discussed internally at United as they look for a holding midfielder that can cover a lot of ground the player however wants to stay at Real Madrid at the moment of course Romano also said that Man United have spoken to Manu Kone's agent he's one of the names on their defensive list which we already know but obviously some people don't want to believe us so Romano said that as well so there you go it is happening I'm not saying the deal is happening but we are in talks so look I think with Kamavinga, let's just discuss Kamavinga for a moment because there is definitely a conversation to be had there.

7:07As I understand it, Kamavinga is still only 23. I think he's 24. Well, he's definitely going to be 24 next year at some point. There's talk about his injury record. Now, I'm just going to do this live now because I've only just popped it up on the screen. So looking at his so-called injury record, it doesn't really stack up to me. Somebody said he's missed 53 games in the last year or so. Well, he hasn't. He did his knee in November 23 and came back in January 24 and missed 10 games. He did a knee again in August 24 and was back in September and missed 10 games. um he did his hamstring in april 25 and was back in july 25 um he did his ankle in august 25 and was back in july 25 and then you know he had toothache i think you know in in may in march so he had a knee maybe two years ago he's had a couple of hamstring issues that were pretty much close together in 2025 and he had a couple of ankle problems around christmas so i mean look they're they're three sit there's they're three separate injuries but i mean i don't i don't know that it's at a stage where you'd go that's a problem um look you've run a medical you'd run a medical i do think with kamer binger there is a bit of an unfair myth that he's really injury prone i think he's had three separate injuries where he wasn't out for ages the ankle the hamstring and the knee he wasn't out for ages he was out for a couple of months with both um there's no reason why that wouldn't be a reason to sign kamer binger if he can come through a medical he's fine so i think that anwash you've just kind of got yourself blocked what a stupid stupid thing to do.

9:10What a shame. Stupid person. You're gone. Anyway, so Kamavinga is definitely someone we're considering. Now, the interesting thing about Kamavinga is he almost becomes a bit of a marquee. I'll talk about whether I'd prefer players over Kamavinga in a moment. You can tell me. But the interesting thing about Kamavinga is he can play CDM and he can play left back. So he almost becomes a very interesting player. Now, I don't think we should be buying a CDM who can play as a left back because what do you play him as? Utility players are great when you've got 14 specialists. People like Wes Brown, John O'Shea, they were worth their weight in gold.

9:57What we need is a specialist left back and a specialist six. We don't need somebody who can back up at both. So I wouldn't be buying Camavinga because he can play left back. I'd be buying Camavinga because he can play CDM. That's where I think he comes in. Now, I might shock a few people here, but I'm not unhappy with Camavinga or Kone. In relation to some of the people we could be looking at, Sanderberg, Belayba, I'm happy with Camavinga or Kone. Camavinga has an immense amount of potential. He's played at Real Madrid. he's played in the Champions League his CV is very good and if we look at him and say look my big problem with Camavinga is and I've said it many times is I worry about the wasted talent at Real Madrid the player he was at Rennes I really wanted him the player he's been at Real Madrid he's fell off he's not really gone to the level he needs to but football is full of players that sort of didn't do what they needed to do and ended up being really good look at Odegaard Odegaard went to Real Madrid as a you know a huge prospect didn't really work out goes to Arsenal and has been fantastic for them I mean I would take a I would take an Odegaard situation every day of the week and some people don't rate Odegaard but when you look at what Odegaard's done at Arsenal if Camavinga came and replicated that I'd be very very happy so look I aim I I completely take on board that Camavinga hasn't done well at Real Madrid and you wouldn't you worry about mentality, consistency, etc.

11:29But it's a, you know, if you, look, I don't want to do this, but look, if you take Sander Berg and Camavinga, are you having a laugh? Like, come on, you're going to go Camavinga. And if you take Beléber and Camavinga, and we're not in talks for Beléber, it's not happening, as we said last night. But look, if you take Beléber and Camavinga, basically the same age, ones at Brighton has been sat on the bench all season, but has potential. Ones at Real Madrid has been in and out of the team. and has played in the Champions League and will be cheaper than Balaba. You go for Kamavinga every day of the week.

12:04So I would put Kamavinga right in there. I'm not saying he's my number one choice, but I would definitely have him there beyond Balaba, beyond Sander Berg, beyond Tyler Adams. You know, Kamavinga for me drops into the top three targets we should be looking at now because, and as I said, rightly or wrongly, because he's a Real Madrid player and because he's a well-known name, he almost wrongly becomes a marquee signing because of his reputation. So it ticks a lot of boxes for Man United. If you go and sign Kamabinga, there's a bit of glamour. There's a bit of a shirt seller there, isn't there, rightly or wrongly.

12:41But I think fundamentally, looking at the player, you can't argue with the fact that he is ticking a lot of boxes for Man United. He is very, very good defensively, which is why he can play at left back. he's very energetic he can put a tackle in he can pass a ball he can drive with the ball so I think Kamavinga is interesting I do and if it's Kamavinga or Kone I'm actually quite content now I'm not going to sit here and say that Kone, Tillemans and Santos is the dream midfield I still think it lacks ambition you know they'll have all three of them for under£150 million and I do think there needs to be questions asked of Sir Jim Radcliffe and the Glazers as to where's the ambition.

13:26But as fans, what we're trying to do is get the best out of what we can get. And I think some people get lost on this. We can't sign Anderson now. We can't sign Tonali now. We can't sign Mateus Fernandes now. We can't sign Chumini now. We can't sign Bruno Gomerez now. We can't sign Alex Scott now. Looks like that deal's gone. We can't buy players that are more than£70 million. We won't pay more than£200 ,000 a week. So as fans, we should call that out. It's a lack of ambition, but we also have to get the best we can get within the parameters they're doing because we watch the games. We get nothing for watching United finish outside of Europe.

14:02They're not going anywhere anyway. They're building a stadium. So as shit as it sounds, we have to get the best out of the shit situation they provide. And Kone, Tillemans and Santos wouldn't be horrific in the situation of the parameters they provided. So look, let's see what happens with Kamavinga. the big barrier with Camavinga is, a little bit like Ciumini, he doesn't want to go. He doesn't want to lead Real Madrid. If Real Madrid say you're for sale and you've got no future, does he want to come to Man United? Because Ciumini would have come to Man United happily and worked hard. Like, if Real Madrid had said, no, we're moving on from you, he would have gone, fine, this happens in football, I'm ambitious, I want to go to Man United.

14:46Does Camavinga do that? Or does Camavinga go, I don't want to go to Man United, I want to stay here? that's the big question for me because I don't want I don't want a Di Maria situation you want a player that wants to come to this club and that's what we don't know about Kamabinga because he wants to stay at Real Madrid I've got no problem with a player wanting to stay at Real Madrid we're not competing with Real Madrid I mean some people think we've got an Everton budget so we're not competing with Real Madrid if Real Madrid or Bayern Munich or PSG move players on we should be looking at the front of the queue because that's where we are but they've got to want to come to Manchester United so look positive message of the day Day three I'm not opposed to signing Camavinga I think it's a good story I really do What's your thoughts on Indy Kaila's tweet about Balaba?

15:32I think it's a shame that David Ornstein Ever gave them any credibility a year ago Because I've been looking at their account for a year I've been looking at it for 10 years It's full of shit It's absolutely full of shit And that Balaba story is absolute shite That's not to say that United might not get desperate later in the window and go for Belaba, but we're not looking at him now. Absolutely not looking at him now. So I don't know where that shit's coming from. As I say, we're in a very fortunate position as a community that most of the information we've got has been absolutely spot on, whether it's Tillemans, Kone, Trimini, Belaba deal being off.

16:11We've got very good information at the moment, and shout out to the people who are giving us that. If I could give you their names, I would, but that's not how it works. And we're not in for labour. We are in talks with Kone. Camavinga, I don't know. Romano's put that out. But if it's true, I wouldn't be opposed to it. And look, it's interesting, though, because I do agree that there is elements of Camavinga that has people concerned. That's reflected in the live chat. Would you sign Camavinga? Yes, 56 percent. No, 44 percent. but think about it i understand the reservations but think about it he's way better than sandberg he's way better than valeva he's got way more experience he's champions league proven he's only 23 the injury stuff is a myth when you actually look at the injuries it's a myth there's no cruciate ligament injury there's no smashed up hamstring there's no you know there's nothing that's long term he's just had three separate injuries that kept him out for a couple of months which is not unusual it's not unusual um because he's still young still developing so the the injury thing is not a problem if he gets through a medical I wouldn't be looking at the injury thing as a problem because as we know with United if there is anything there we won't do it anymore we won't do a Mason Mount anymore we won't do an Eric Bay anymore so I'm not worried about the injury look at him as a player a player like that with something to prove can be a very good signing and also he's a defensive monster.

17:43Like, he really is. That's why they use him as a left back. He really is. So I think Kamavinga's not a bad player. Bright says he's missed 51 games in three seasons. Well, I don't think he has. I don't think he has. On transfer market, it says 10-10, which is 20-30.

18:08All right. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right, you're right. He's missed 51 games in three seasons. But when you look at it, it's 10-10-4-6-13-6-3-2. That's what I mean. Like, if it's... There's not a massive injury there. Look, I think we've got to be really careful with this. I think we've got to be really careful with this. You know, I see it all the time. I don't want this player because he's injury-prone, right? But... You're not doing the medical. people moan about the edison thing when we do a thorough medical we've just done a medical on tillemans who's got a hamstring injury and he's gone through it why has he gone through it because they've looked at the injury they know how long it's going to heal they've looked at everything else and gone it's fine they will run an in they will run a medical on cam of ingot and if he's got a problem he won't come through it and if he hasn't got a problem he will come through it you can't sit there going he's injury prone like it's he's either he's either not or he is i think you've I know it's bad to say it, but I think you've got to trust the club.

19:09If the club go for Kamavinga, we can't sit there going he's injury prone. That's not how it's going to work anymore. And I'm at the front of the queue to criticise how Man United's run. But if you're not going to go for Kamavinga, I'm OK with it. I'm not going to sit here saying I'm worried about injuries. I think those days are over, to be honest. Hopefully, I'm right on that. Who would you go for out of Kamavinga or Kone? Well, that's the million-dollar question. And look, I don't know if Kamavinga is the other player. Romano and a few people are saying that Man United are looking at a load of options.

19:44I was told it's one other player. It's Kone they're in talks with and one other player. I don't think United If you think about it logically I know what Romano said I know what other people have said But I do not believe And I don't know what your thoughts are I don't believe United are out there Having talks with Kone Having talks with Kamavinga Having talks with Berg Having talks with Alex Scott I don't think we're doing that I don't I think we've locked in on two players One of which is Kone and I think that we are deciding what to do out of those two because if we're talking to three, four, five players what the hell were we doing in February, March, April and May?

20:30Like it would come across as desperate and you have a list.

20:38I believe Man United have a list and I think they're working down that list and I would imagine Kone was on that list much the same as edison was on that list much the same as matthews fernandez was on that list so i think that whoever this second midfielder is and it could be camavinga it will probably end up being one of those two players kone and whoever the other player is i mean i don't know whether camavinga is the player to you know you have to analyze it on experience what in the five strands of a transfer camavinga why would romano mention camavinga in the five strands of a transfer why would he do it total bollocks romano doesn't put total bollocks out totally true well could be um player looking for a new contract at real madrid by using man united real madrid want to sell him so that doesn't work uh real madrid using man united to generate interest in camavinga could be that um player's agent using man united to generate interest in his client but camavinga wants to stay at real madrid so i think the only one the only two scenarios for me is it's totally true that we're in for Camavinga or it's Real Madrid using Man United to generate interest in Camavinga.

21:47They're the only two scenarios. And Romano would put both of those out. He would. Like, you know, Romano has got no reason not to. So if it's Real Madrid putting it out there about Man United wanting Camavinga to generate interest in him so they can sell him, you'd get that. You'd understand that because Real Madrid want to sell someone and that's the one they want to sell. Or it's true that Man United are going for him. And you believe one of those two scenarios, don't you um i think what's really interesting though and i saw somebody saying it in the chat it's um it's interesting how that what's his name who was it in the athletic who said somebody came on the show yesterday and went oh you've been put in your place um carl anchor he said on that podcast i spoke to man united and man united aren't in talks with kone and i said to you yesterday morning before ornstein said anything before romano said anything I said to you, Man United have held talks with Kone.

22:41Now, you can believe the athletic journalist if you want. That's absolutely fine. You know, they've been to uni, whatever. But I said, Man United have held talks with Kone. And somebody in the chat was going, you're a liar. You're making it up. And I said, I'm not. I've got no reason to make it up. Why would I know about Tillemans? Why would I know about Chiamini? Why, you know, why would I know last night that we're not talking to Balaba? There you go. Romano, Kone talks. Ornstein, Kone. So it just shows you I think these traditional Man United Client journalists And I could reel a load of them off Most of them in the press conference Are getting nothing Absolutely nothing on transfers The transfer stuff is coming from stuff away from the club And the people close to the club Aren't being given anything by the club Which I think is a good thing Because you've got to work for it I don't think journalism is being handed stuff by the club I really don't And I think the club are right To say hello is that man united comms department are you talking to kone i think the club are right to say go and find it out yourself go and go and find it out yourself um it's not gary neville giving me the information by the way people are saying oh it's interesting how you've got information now you're working with the overlap it's not gary neville giving the information yeah he's not going out doing that he's too busy in new york um so yeah to recap on kone someone just said what's What's the story on Kone?

24:02Look, as we've been saying for a long time, keep an eye on Manu Kone. As we've been saying for a long time, Man United are in talks with Kone. And whether you believe us or not, Romano's confirmed it now. They are in talks with another player. I think it's two, Kone and one other. Decisions need to be made. I saw a lot of people last night saying, oh, Kone's crap. They got smothered by three on two. They got swamped. Chumini and Kone, Chumini and Rabiot, they got swamped by a crap tactic by Deschamps trying to play two against three. You can't do that against Spain. He's a good player. United have got a decision to make.

24:43There's definitely a bit of uncertainty. I think what goes in Camavinga's favour is that he's two years younger than Kone and United like prospects. And if they look at Kamavinga and go, he's two years younger, he's played in the Champions League, he's a little bit more high profile and he can play more defensively, then maybe that's where they're going to head. But if you're asking me what I prefer over Kone or Kamavinga, it's tough. It's tough. I'm not going to pretend that I don't think Kamavinga is an interesting one. I just would go for Kone because I think he wants it I think he wants the Man United move A little bit like Mbremo from Brentford to Man United And Cunha from Wolves to Man United And Santos from Chelsea to Man United And Tillemans from Villa to Man United I think Roma to Man United He wants this deal I think he's hungry for this deal Whereas Camavinga I don't know whether he's hungry for Man United When he wants to stay at Real Madrid So that would be the thing.

25:46On pure ability, I think you can argue for both. But I think we want players that want it and he wants it. And also, I don't know what Camavinga's wage is at Real Madrid. I certainly know that Kone's wage will be well within what we want. So he's earning about 240 million a year, a week. 240 million a week. Bloody hell. He's not earning 240 million a week. He's not earning 240 million a year. He's earning about 12 and a half million at Real Madrid a year. Apparently he's got a 1 billion release clause, according to the New York Times. Yeah, we're not paying that. He's on about 200 grand a week, 240 euro a week.

26:31So that's a lot of money for Man United as well. I mean, Kone is going to be half that. So all these things do make a difference. Contract till 2029 for Kamavinga, but that wage thing is important. That wage thing is important. And ultimately, when you balance it up, you've got a player in Kone who's going to be a cheaper wage and a cheaper fee who wants to come to Man United. And then you've got a player in Kamavinga who's double the wage, more expensive, and maybe is unsure about coming to Man United. So I think you probably do go towards Kone. What's really important to say, what's really important to say, very important, and Ornstein alluded to it last night, and he's absolutely right.

27:15There will be a deadline on Kone, and that will be put forward by his people. There will be a deadline put forward on Kone. They won't sit and wait, because you've got to manage your player's career. Kone's a very athletic player. He can't miss pre-season waiting on Man United. We can't have an Agate or an Amrabat situation where it's just wait for us till the end of August. There is other interest. So United, if they want Kone, it's not like he's going to sit and go, I'll wait till August the 31st. Like there are other options. There are other teams looking at him and there will be a bit of competition.

27:55from what I'm told, United win that race if they move on him. But if we wait too long, I think that there will be a little bit of a, you know, competition there. So interesting, exciting. Let's see what happens. But look, I'm not opposed to Camavinga. I'm not going to sit here and say it's a shit deal. We've been through it. I'm not opposed to it. Let's get some of your comments. I will then talk to you about Stilla and then we will talk about Lissandro Martinez. Great show this morning. Hope you're all doing very well. Make sure you're subscribing to the channel. This is the place to be. best conversation and to be fair the best news at the moment really enjoying it thank you everybody who's getting involved new and old um okay so uh first first question here we've got is about lewis hall i mean look what i would say about lewis hall is that there is no indication much the same as belabor i think it's more of a fan led conversation and the danger with that is that there's good information out there about what we're actually doing.

28:53In relation to Lewis Hall, I think United would go for him if the price was right. And he said he wanted to come to Man United, but there are a lot of if, buts and maybes and Newcastle are a mess. I mean, they won't let Bruno Guimaraes go at the moment. So I think that, you know, that would be a very hard deal to do. I also think Man United are focusing on the midfield first. I don't think they can pivot to a left back or a winger or an attacker for the simple reason they have a budget. And if they went and bought Lewis Hall for 60 million, how much would they have left for the midfield? So I think they've got to sort the midfield first.

29:29My thought was they might wander off and do a left back or an attacker and come back to the midfield in August. But I think because of the budget, they've got to get that midfield sorted first. So I think nothing happens on anything else until the midfield. I'd prefer Truffaut over Lewis Hall, this is Irish ghost. What I like about this window is none of the journalists have got anything right. United are doing deals in secret again. Thank you for the Lord, says Craig. I mean, we're enjoying it because we're getting very good information. But, you know, I think also because United aren't feeding stuff out to the usual suspects, we're not, you know, we're getting more focused information as well.

30:06Kone and Scott gives us good depth Says Rainbreaker Look in relation to Alex Scott Never say never but I think that's off And I've not been told that officially Because he could be the other midfielder It might not be Kamavinga we'll have to wait and see But my feeling on Scott is that The information is out there 80 million minimum Lots of competition They don't want to sell him United don't want to spend that money So I like Scott but we don't want to spend that amount of money. So I don't think it's on at the moment. It was Callum Z who asked about Lewis Hall. Tillerman's wage, says JSD. I don't know.

30:43I don't know. I don't know what Tillerman's wage is. I would imagine it's somewhere around 150 grand a week. I know it's Ruben Amrim giving you the info, says Alex. Oh, yeah. Amrim's well tapped in on the transfer news. It's really normal for Man United to sack a manager and then tell him all the transfer stuff. Lilo in the live chat says it's probably between 150 and 175 Look it's going to be under 200 grand isn't it Considering how Carrick wants us to play I think the marquee signing could be Wharton We're doing surprise deals anyway says Ami I tell you what Ami If you're right you're right I would be absolutely stunned if it's Wharton He will cost 80 million United don't want to pay that He's also a player that United have briefed is too similar to Maynou Well Tillemans is similar to Maynou So why would you have three players that in United's eye attempt similar to Maynou?

31:34So I don't see Wharton at all. I'm glad we're not getting Edison because it shows due diligence. I wish we'd showed that with Mount. Exactly, Rob. And, you know, I would applaud the fact that I don't have any concerns about signing injury players anymore. I think the medical team is clearly improved. Kone's off surely. Fairyland gave it the kiss of death from his son, Beds, as Nick P. I mean if that's not AI the guy's a super prat isn't he I mean why does he not just settle into being a legend talking about the game he used to play why does he have to try and be a pound land you know fucking ITK influencer I was told it's AI if it's not AI it's incredible it's pronounced Nemecha says Josh great fascinating thanks for that

32:24what do you think Erb Varela as six, says Hansa. Not a player you're not looking at, so I think we need to live in the real world. I'd love Kamavinga. I'm not being dismissive, but there's no point talking about what do I think about this, what do I think about that. I think we've got to lock in on reality and what I want and what I think is not what we're going to get. So we have to really react to what we're going for. Vlad says, I'd love Kamavinga, but wouldn't mind Kone too, given that Rangnick wanted him whilst he was still at Mönchengladbach. big green flag for me. I didn't know that, Vlad.

32:58I didn't know that. I mean, I was watching That's Football last night and funnily enough, I remembered I had Kone on one of my career modes. I had Dorgu as well and I haven't done a career mode for a few years. So, I mean, I'm not saying I know what I'm on about, but I remember having Kone because he was at Mönchengladbach and he had the green in his hair. So I wonder if he signed for United, whether he'd have the red in his hair. But look, if Ranić liked him, that to me would definitely be a very, very big tick in the box as well. because Ranjic didn't seem to miss when he told us about all the players we should get and where they ended up.

33:32Do we have any scouts in Croatia? Talents popping up left, right and centre. Midfielders balling in Serie A, Vardy El City, Voscovic, Brighton. Also longevity is insane, says John. Fair point. Kamavinga had a rupture of the abduct attendant. Huge no for me, says Pack. Do we need to be worried about that? Bruno also has a release clause, says AJ. I'll come on to who I think might leave United as a shock this summer, but I don't expect Bruno to go anywhere. Would Carrick play Camavinga as a left-back who moves into midfield? I wouldn't like us to do that. I want a specialist left-back. We're not looking at him yet, but Xavi Guerra from Valencia would be a good option.

34:12It's time we have a top-class Spanish midfielder, says Sunrise's army. Is he the lad from Valencia? We did look at him a couple of years ago. It never developed though. Perez Golf says, long on here. I would genuinely love Kamavinga, techs many boxes, elite recovery, can defend huge spaces, drives through midfield instead of just passing, and he's only 23. I don't disagree. I don't think Kamavinga's a bad shout. Just for me, it's whether he wants the move. Do you think, you know, I can do a loan to buy for Kamavinga, says Football. I mean, that would be even better. Kone missed 278 days since 22-23, says Bite.

34:50I think people are focusing on transfer market injury record way too much. If we go for these players, we will run a medical. If there is a problem with the player, we won't sign them, as per Edison. I really do think injury issues shouldn't be a consideration for us mere mortals. United will not go for a player if there's a problem with injuries. We've already seen that with Edison. They really wanted Edison and they didn't do the deal because of this knee thing. We won't go doing deals on risks, clearly. We're run by business people. They clearly aren't going to take risks. Since we abandoned the over 26, who would be a good left back, says Anthony Robinson?

35:33The ITK Indy, whatever his name, is saying we're placing a bid for Belaber. They aren't reliable, but thoughts. Total bollocks, though. For me, United need a midfield enforcer, but for when we are under pressure, we need someone to calm it down, like Kone, Fafana, or even Palinja, says Craig. Would be OK with Kammer being on loan, says Sunrise's Army. I think the third midfielder will be out of the blue like Santos and Tillemans I would think they could take a risk by buying in Europe for this one, says Mark Do you think Belaber for£50 million will be a good signing? Rest can be invested in a left-back and a left-winger Carrick being a good manager versus being a great tactician can get his confidence back says Anshul I would sign Kone, try to include Xerxes going the other way, try to sign Hall as a marquee signing, we need a new left-back, can go another season and can't go another season with Shaw, says Cohen.

36:22200 plus days of injury since 2023, says BT. I'm getting a bit bored of the injury stuff. I mean, how many more times can I say we've just pulled out of a deal for Edison because of an issue? You're not, I think you're wasting your time worrying about injuries. We'll either go for him or we won't. And if we go for him, you can't moan about injuries because they'll do a bloody medical. I like Kamabinga, I like Kone. Injury worries, says Damien. Morning, Mark. Could you wish my friend OJ a happy birthday? Happy birthday to OJ. That's from Okachukwa. And from me. I would purchase Kone and Kamavinga since Kone can play in centre midfield and Kamavinga can play DM and left-back.

37:00Kamavinga has played many games as left-back for Madrid. What do you think, says Dusty? You'd be buying him as a left-back then if you bought him and Kone. I mean, I don't know that Kamavinga is a specialist left-back in the traditional sense, but I don't think United would do that, Dusty, if I'm being honest. Kamavinga isn't the player we need or want says Gaza after watching France this World Cup I'd like to see Kone in a red shirt Savage says Sangarian Kone less than Chumini or Belaber transfer fees Lex Cook thank you very much to Savage also if we had to sell three players for 30 million plus who goes says Anthony Tracy and Bucky says Kamavinga or Kone would have to start with Tillemans will we have another main new issue like we did under Ruben I don't think Michael Carrick's got the ball I mean I say it how you think but I don't think Michael Carrick's got the balls to drop Maynou I don't and I don't think he should but I'm just saying I don't think Carrick I think Carrick's aware that if he drops Maynou he's creating a massive issue for himself he won't drop Maynou I just can't see him dropping Maynou not like Amrim did it goes against what Carrick's all about as well Carrick really wants to try and be part of the Stretford end.

38:21He's turned up to games in the past. I don't think he's going to start doing stuff that goes against the fabric of what Man United is. And Maynou is a player that the majority of this fan base want to see in the team with Man United building around him. Whether he'll take him out of the team if he's not performing is another matter. But I think Maynou starts the season, yeah. Chelsea apparently in talks with Real for Carrera if true would frustrate me no end when clearly we need a left back I think we will buy one this window says Caleb we'll never go back for Alvaro we'll never go back for him rightly or wrongly we just won't Ami says we bid 80 plus 5 for Mateus Fernandes so the club clearly has the appetite for a marquee midfielder so technically we can go for Scott or Wharton says Ami yeah but that's what that's before we went and bought santos and sinnehmins you know when we were bidding for mateos fernandez maybe we were just going to get him and edison i mean they've always said that the budget's 150 if we'd have spent 85 on mateos fernandez plus the 40 for edison that would have only left us 20 so i don't know that we have got that amount of money left now to go and spend an 80 million pounds signing look we'll wait and see i i don't think we'll go for Wharton or Scott.

39:41I might be wrong. Who would your last three signings be? Midfielder, left back or forward, says Josh. I like the idea of Brobby. I think that's an interesting one. I don't think we'll do it, but I like that idea. Left back, I would love Truffaut or Lewis Hall. Midfielder? Look, if it's up to me, I would be in the Alex Scott conversation. Obviously, we're in the Kone conversation and I don't mind being in the Kamavinga conversation. So I would hope that we would get one of those three don't ask me to rank them because i think that's very difficult but you know one of those three scott kamavinga or kone is where i'd be looking to land now if i was united uh the midfield has been prioritized rightly so however in terms of another forward signing is there any names you think might pop up soon i i don't know who we're going to go for as a forward penguas penguas i mean as i said broby is interesting but he's going to be out of our price range um he's going to be massively out of our price range what so so i don't know where we go i mean people talk about vlahovic he was on 300 grand a week at juventus when we're not going to go for but vlahovic is that's not going to happen um yeah it just won't so i think that realistically you tell me i don't know what hurt you more euro 2020 or 2024 neither hurt me that much i didn't like southgate i didn't like the way we played and we didn't deserve to win.

41:10Tonight will hurt me more than those two. We've got to beat Argentina tonight. I'm trying not to think about it too much because it gets me so excited, but we've got to win tonight. Talking about Argentina, let's have a look at

41:33the Martinez story. that's very interesting um so i saw where it came from today because they put it in uh the manchester evening news um and effectively apparently nico williams is keen on a move to man united as well fucking hell i don't know what i think about that uh build a set this is all on the manchester evening news page today uh united reportedly held talks with the representatives of Dortmund full-back Ryerson, according to reports from Build. I mean, look, I'd love that to be true, but I think we need better than that.

42:18I'm just trying to see where it was about Tillemans. Sorry, not Tillemans, Martinez. Okay, it was in the Manchester News and it said Lissandro Martinez has reportedly been offered to La Liga side, atletico madrid this summer al chincarito claimed that the argentinian center back could be on his way to the spanish capital he struggled badly with injuries in recent seasons and has only got one year left on his contract martinez is a popular figure but his fitness issues could mean a sale makes sense i think the answer is there and i think we spoke about this yesterday um the answer is there isn't it um this is not about his injuries i mean how can you say we're moving martinez on because of his injuries but you've kept luke shaw you've kept mason mount you know it's total contradiction harry maguire's had a lot of injuries in the last two years and we gave him another contract so we'll keep maguire we'll keep shaw we'll keep mount but we'll sell martinez because of injuries.

43:19I mean, it's total contradiction. This is because if we move Martinez on, and it's a big if, if we move him on, this is contractual. This is because we don't want to give him a new contract and he's only got a year left. So it would be an absolute shit show to let Martinez go. He's performed fantastically well in the World Cup. He's arguably our best centre-back with De Ligt. And we can't be cashing in on players like that. and he has value as well as exactly what Jack Cassidy said it's also because no one will buy Mounts no one will buy Shaw no one will pay us for Maguire but they'll give us probably 30 million maybe even 40 for Martinez a pure profit so that's why we'd be looking to sell Martinez if we did don't if this can't happen and I don't think it will happen but if it did happen it's just about bringing some money to balance the books.

44:14And that's where people will say we are Everton because the quality of the signings we've made aren't marquee. And if we start selling our better players, there's no point bringing Tillemans in and selling Martinez.

44:29That's sort of like an Everton thing to do. You let a good player go and then you bring a player in like that. You can't let Martinez go to bring money into the club. The minute we start selling good players to balance the books, is the minute we stop being a big club. This is the way Everton behave, Newcastle behave, Villa behave. You can get in the Champions League like that, but you're never going to compete for the big prizes and Man United need to compete for the big prizes. Big clubs don't sell people like the Sandro Martinez. So keep an eye on it, but I can't believe that it's going to be true.

45:03In relation to Angelo Stiller, there is a bit of an update today. And again, I'll shout out that I saw it on the Manchester Evening News page as well, basically saying that today is the last day for Stiller. It's actually coming in from Sport Build and they're saying that United linked Angelo Stiller's release clause, which allows him to leave the club for a fixed fee of£31 million, expires today. It is there but for understood that he's probably going to stay at Stuttgart as things stand. They are in the Champions League this season, so he's probably going to stay for another year, which might be a pull actually to stay and play in the Champions League but Stilla's release clause expires today in fairness to United there's been nothing concrete or even you know even a whisper about Stilla for probably three months so as much as I like Stilla and it's a player I said you know I'd love to see us go for I've not heard anything around him for a very long time What do you make of Jason Wilcox sorry Patrick Lynch says what do you make of Wilcox with our new signings it's weird to me that Carrick isn't there as well Oh I mean look Wilcox is the director of football and you know if I if I'm speaking openly about Wilcox which I always will I would sack him tomorrow I don't think he's a very inspiring director of football and I think there's been a lot of mistakes made by him including managers but he's always there when there's a signing you know he knows how to play the game when there's a signing he's always there giving an interview I don't know why Carrick's not giving any comments I mean he's not an interim anymore he's the coach so I hadn't noticed that Patrick that Carrick hasn't said anything about any of our signings which is a bit odd because he is the manager now do I think it's to do with him being the head coach and he doesn't say anything I'm gonna be strange.

47:01I think you want your manager to come out and say something. So we'll have to keep an eye on that. But I also think it's strange that we've been back in pre-season for a week and he hasn't done an interview or a press conference yet because that's something we always expect from Ten Hag, Amirim, Mourinho, Van Gaal, Oli. I would have expected, you know, we've got a pre-season game on Saturday afternoon. We're doing a watch along on Saturday afternoon for a pre-season game. like pre-season starts on Saturday um and we've not had anything from Carrick yet and I know he's not the most interesting person to listen to but I think managers are quite interesting at the start of the season because you can ask them about you know are you happy with the window what's your feelings about the squad what you're thinking about next season so I I would hope that we get to hear from Carrick soon um because you know pre-season is where you want your manager talking to you and i know i know i've used the wrong word there but you want your head coach talking to the fans i didn't want karrick to get the job people can say what they like but they didn't but now that he's got the job i will back him and to back him you've got to listen to him so i um hope that we will start to hear from him soon but i've got to be honest i hadn't really noticed about the karrick not commenting on the players because he will do that at some point um thanks everyone who's tuning in this morning.

48:25Thank you so much. Nearly 15 ,000 tuning in again. Camavinga would make a lot of sense. How much would he cost as Nat? Well, he's got a billion release clause according to the New York Times. I don't think we'll be paying a billion. I think we would go for...

48:45I think you might be right for about 60. I love these types of chats. So Paris in the live chat says, have you heard who Bournemouth are going to sign? what am I supposed to do with that if I haven't heard who it is? Could you not have said, have you heard who Bournemouth are going to sign? They're in for that. Because I don't know now. So I can't answer. Actually, I like those sort of comments. I love when you do your stats comparisons between players. What do you use, says Owen? Why Scout? And if anyone wants me to do, I can do those because we can upload them at 2am or 7am. So if you want, have you got any suggestions?

49:22Leave them in the comments. I've got a lot more time now with the World Cup closing down as well. Ami says, we don't need a backup striker. We have Kunya and Mbemo who can also slot in as a fluid nine. Left back, left midfielder and CDM are an absolute priority, says Ami. I sort of disagree with you, mate, if I'm going to be honest. I wasn't going to, but I will. I don't like Mbemo up front. A square peg in a round hole is not a solution. I don't like Mbemo up front. I think he's been poor since Christmas because of that Kunja up front I'd like to see a little bit more of I think he can do the job but you're right if we buy a left winger Kunja's going to have to play up front a bit because he's not going to play on the wing and he's not going to play at 10 so you might be right about Kunja but I don't like Mbemo up front I don't think we've seen any evidence of that working yet Any news when De Litt is back Mark says Ian he's already back He's training individually at the moment.

50:21He's not training with the rest of the squad. So if there's no setbacks, he should be back for the start of the season, I would imagine. We should start to see him in some pre-season games. And we should see Santos in a pre-season game on Saturday. Remember pre-season, you'll only see half a team each half, by the way. If we had bid 130 million for Anderson, do you think we would have been priced out on other much needed players? We should have made up the numbers earlier. Yes, it's Tom. I don't know is the answer to that, Tom. I really don't. I think that, you know, we've got a budget and we're working to it.

50:57I don't want another Frankie de Jong situation, says Simon. Well, I don't think there's a Frankie de Jong situation ongoing because either Camavinga wants to come and we'll pursue it or he doesn't. The problem with the Frankie de Jong situation is all summer, we just locked in on him and he never wanted to come. If we had to sell three, I've done that one from Anthony as well. Great stuff. is Carrick trying to replicate the Scholes Carrick midfield not saying Tillemans or Kone are the same level but it seems we are prioritizing controls as Clarkie I think the Scholes Carrick midfield in the modern game would get absolutely obliterated I mean one thing you can say about the last 10 years of midfield play is that if you're not quick energetic and athletic you're going to get destroyed you've got to have something like that and everybody's got it um you know you think about skulls and carrick in the modern game they they'd struggle because football is a lot quicker it's a lot more intense um you can imagine skulls and carrick coming up against the likes of caicedo and people like that that you do need some athleticism in there i mean i think michael carrick would work in the modern game because of you know i think he's got Rodri type tendencies but I think he also needs somebody with a lot of legs next to him I mean obviously I'm now thinking about Michael Carrick playing for Mangonisle which is not going to happen Been really busy says Dan for the past few weeks but are we even looking at a left back?

52:28Not at the moment Not at the moment and I think United are working down a list I think the third midfielder comes there now Sunrise's Army says not true uh salm says not true well i'm not going to get into an argument with people about hypotheticals i don't think skulls and carrick work in the modern game um um i don't i mean who's the third midfielder as well i mean why are we having a conversation about skulls and carrick because as we saw last night if you play as a midfield too you're going to get absolutely annihilated you know if you think about teams like newcastle tonali uh bruno g joel linton um you know you think about teams like Liverpool, Sir Bosley, McAllister, Gravenberg, who would be the third midfielder as well.

53:12We're not playing a 4-4-2 are we? Because we get absolutely annihilated. I still say Scholes and Carrick would struggle in the modern game because they'd get overwhelmed. You'd have to have somebody with them and I think they'd need somebody with legs as well. Stick Roy Keane in there with them. I think you're laughing. The days of 4-4-2 are over. Absolutely over. no team's going to play 4-4-2 anymore just watch France yesterday absolute suicide in a World Cup semi-final to play like that against Spain to go two against three and I think Trumini and Rabiot have done well in this World Cup and obviously Rabiot went off at half time because he was late to the tackle and he was going to get sent off Kone came on at half time and it's not going to work it's not going to work this is a make or break year for Yoro this is Anthony I think that is a conversation to have over the next few weeks yeah let's get the transfer window out of the way do you think Job Bellingham as the third midfielder I've heard nothing about Job Bellingham absolutely nothing I'd be very surprised if we went for him definitely great show this morning thank you everybody for tuning in as always exclusive news is a little bit on Kone Kamavinga I don't know we'll have to wait and see but I'm not opposed to it and obviously we oh I'm trying to think when we'll be live we've obviously got the two o 'clock show we'll be live at two England's at eight I probably need to go live a little bit earlier for that so maybe maybe we're talking 6.45 7, 6.45 let's see what's going on but it'll be an earlier eight o 'clock show tonight it's definitely going to be around sort of 7pm UK time an hour earlier we'll be live stay safe everyone take care I'll speak to you all a bit