468: Kone BID Ready! Rashford TRANSFER Mess!

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1:16Void where prohibited. Visit SpinQuest.com for more details. Hello everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United transfer news, exclusive new news around Kone. We'll bring you that straight away. Also some worrying news about Marcus Rashford. It's already causing concern and frustration in the fan base that the club are basically spinning a Rashford return because they can't get rid of a player that they clearly want to get rid of. You know, I suppose it's like, you know, I would liken this Rashford situation to a present you got last year that you didn't really want.

1:52and you've tried to give it away and you've tried to sell it on eBay and you can't. And then you wrap it up for somebody else and say, ta-da, what a great present. And I think that's exactly what United are trying to do with Rashford. We'll talk about that. Also, Real Madrid and how that could impact Manchester United because they're about to spend big, which means they may need to sell big. And Thomas has got a driving lesson today. That was actually on the agenda. Just to tell you all that, I just wrote in the chat, I thought it would be a nice message. Good luck, Thomas, in your lesson. It's not your test, it's a lesson.

2:20That's not a freebie to go and drive across a roundabout, but you're there to learn. Also, we'll talk about this Maynou stuff. We've got time at the end of the show. We'll definitely talk about that. A bit of criticism coming out for Maynou that he wasn't actually good enough to play for England. Is that fair? We'll talk about that as well. But I want to get into this Kone story. I've actually made a decision. YouTube's always been our bread and butter. We started on a Sunday night once a week. Me, Kev, Martin, Rich, Alex, just doing a show every week. And I'm going to try and give you the exclusives on here because sometimes I do tweet them.

2:55And actually, you tweet it and people go, you don't know anything. Twitter is a bit of a cesspit. There's some good people on Twitter, but there's some knobheads as well, whereas I prefer YouTube. So I'm going to give the exclusives on YouTube from now on because we have had information. And those people who watch the channel and like the channel know we've had good information this summer. So new information here. Haven't seen anybody else talking about this yet. So we'll start off about Kone. What's the latest with Kone? Well, there are developments. Man United are preparing a bid for Kone. Now, the reason they are preparing a bid for Kone is because there is a time limit on Kone.

3:29He wants to resolve his future. The people around him want to resolve his future. Now, the kicker I will give you in a minute, because it's the second player, which is becoming a problem for United. But if they want Kone, they're going to have to make a decision because there are other clubs interested in Kone and Roma want to resolve it quickly and Kone wants to resolve it quickly. And the feeling is you either want me or you don't. I'm not going to sit around waiting for the club I want to go to whilst you go and talk to somebody else. So if you want me, you get me. If you don't want me, there's other clubs that do.

4:02So I would say that with regards to Kone, expect something to happen if it's going to happen in the next week or so, because if we wait longer than that, the opportunity will disappear. Now, the problem Man United have got is that the player that they are looking at is Kone and another. The other player, there is an acceptance that that is likely to take a while. So United have got a bit of a dilemma here. You've got Kone who wants to come to Manchester United. You've got Roma who will sell at a fair price. And there's a deal that can be done. there's this other player that is going to take time.

4:37You tell me what you would do because United have got to make a decision. They can jump on Kone and they can do it quite quickly, or they can gamble on the other player, which is going to take time. Now, let's assume for a minute, and I don't know this. Let's assume for a minute that Alex Scott is the other player, right? United go, well, we're not making a decision on Kone because we want to sum up both of them, right? You therefore say to Kone, look, you're just going to have to wait because we are going to talk to the other player. You get involved in the Alex Scott situation, at which point after two weeks, Kone says, I'm signing for Chelsea or whatever.

5:12He's gone. You're then in the Alex Scott situation, like we were with Mateus Fernandes, the price goes beyond what we want to pay. He stays at Bournemouth or he goes to somebody else. We haven't got Scott. We haven't got Kone. know, we have to go down the list, which is exactly what happened with Tonali, Anderson, everybody else. Now, do we get lucky again? And, you know, there's a word for this and I've heard it online and it's very good. You know, it'd have been very lucky or fortunate or whatever you want to call it at bouncing back in the sense that, you know, you fall off the horse because you don't get the player that you want, but you jump back on the horse and you still technically win the race.

5:49so we could take that risk again miss out on Kone miss out on whoever this is and maybe land on somebody that's good enough but this is the situation and I think you're going to start to hear this situation from you know maybe people you find more credible Romano Ornstein whatever United do need to make a decision on Kone pretty quickly because he has got other options and he wants to get his season going preseason he wants to know where he's going which i respect i totally you know i saw someone in the chat saying well kone can wait i don't know i i don't know about that because i think that i look at amrabat i look at agate i look at anthony i look at casemiro all four of those players with the exception of casemiro who did have a bad season sort of flopped they did flop is there a correlation between amrabat and agate and anthony being signed right at the end of the transfer window missing a pre-season and missing the first few games of the season you're always playing catch-up your first season is almost written off um so i understand a player that says look i want to be integrated into that team i want to know what i'm doing.

7:04I don't want to be sat around at Roma waiting for you to sign me at the end of the window to save a few million quid. So I understand Kone's situation. I also understand that there are other clubs looking at him. So United need to make a decision on that one and they need to make a decision quickly or they need to abandon it and go all in on this player and make sure they get them. Because as I was told this morning, the other player that they want is a problem in the sense that it's nowhere near advanced as Kone is and it could take some time and in that time you're going to miss out on Kone so look uh D-Hex says Kone is trash you're entitled to your opinion but ultimately that's not really what we're talking about we're talking about there's two players that United want they can only sign one do you go ahead with the one it switches Kone or do you risk losing that to go for the other player that could take a few weeks it's going to be very interesting to see um but essentially with regards to kone that's very easy bid ready they can do that like that you know we could literally have another weekend where it's like bid goes in la la la um um i don't think they'll go la la la or or united will try and control the situation and maybe lose control of the situation on both.

8:25I personally, it's tough. It's tough. I mean, look, I'm not, I'm not criticizing the club on this at all. I think it's tough. You've got to, you've got to do what you think is right. I think for the balance of the midfields and the ability to move on to other targets, there's always a risk with the transfer. But if you're telling me we can get Kone for 50 million quid in the next week or two, and then we can move on to left back and other situations, I think I would do it. If you're telling me we can wait and try and sign an Enmicha or a Scott, but it might fall through. And if we do do it, it's going to take about a month.

9:05That doesn't leave us a lot of time to do other deals either. I think we're in a position now where, yeah, I can see the value of an Enmicha or a Scott over a Kone. I can see the value, but we're also going to run out of time on other deals. I think unfortunately we also have to take into account time and I've seen a few people in the chat saying look I'd wait to get the better option and I understand that but we haven't got a lot of time left and that's because we got surprised by the value in the market a couple of deals fell through I think the next McFielder needs to come in in the next week or so to give us a month to sort out the left back and the Rashford situation if we want a winger or a striker so personally I I quite like Kone.

9:49I would go and get that deal done now rather than risk wasting a month on something that. And also a very good point. Someone in the chat just said this. We don't know it is Scott or Enmica. All we know is, is what I was told this morning. And I believe it or not. All we know is that the other midfielder beyond Kone will take longer. It's a longer deal. It will take more time. so but we don't know it's end meter we don't know it's scott if it is that changes the situation what if it's like i don't know sanderberg you know i i think i would rather just move on kone sometimes sometimes in life you're better off going with what you know you don't know what's over the fence the grass ain't always greener sometimes you're better off going with what you know and i think in this situation kone could be done in the next week or so and then you give yourself five weeks.

10:43I mean, if we had Kone done by the 27th of July, we give ourselves five weeks to sort out everything else and the midfield is done. And all three of those midfielders are ready to go for the start of the season as well. I think that's worth whatever risk people perceive it to be. But let me know your thoughts. So new news there. If you're just tuning in a little bit late, obviously we've been well sourced on this situation. Kone bid ready to go. There is a time limit on it Kone wants his future sorted United would need to be moving on that pretty quickly because there is competition and he wants to get it sorted the other option whoever it is is described as a longer term deal and in that time they might miss out on Kone if they gamble on that and they may never get that player either so I think I think learn the lessons of the summer United do need to learn the lessons whatever however this summer finishes and some people will praise it and glaze it and some people will criticize it i still think man united need to learn lessons from this summer because we've had 12 months to prepare for it and a lot of things went wrong that you know as mere mortals would have predicted walking into the window with a list of players and then going oh my god we didn't realize they'd be that expensive i think that was naive um walking into the window and not expecting bidding wars i think that was naive as well um And I think there's a lot to learn from this window.

12:09So I would literally learn it. Now, sometimes you learn on the job. I would go, do we want to make the same mistake with this mystery signing as we did with Mateus Fernandes, Tonali, Anderson? Or do we just want to go for a player that wants to come to the club? Follow your own mantra. He wants to come to the club. He's a good player. I would just go and get it done. I would just go and get it done, to be honest with you. Why are we not working on the other deals anyway, says Pete. Pete, I have a theory on this and I have said it before, Pete. So Pete's asking why can't we work on the left back or the left winger or the striker as well?

12:42I think it's budgetary. I'm going to do a video on this probably early next week. I think it's budgetary. I think we never work on more than one deal at a time. So we'll be working down the list. And I think the priority is the midfield, which is why the third midfielder is next. I also think if they buy a left back, they're eating up the midfield budget and the midfield is the priority. So we won't go for a left back until we get the third midfielder in, which is another reason why I'd move quickly on the third midfielder. John says, bring back Matic and Scooby-Doo. Depends who the other players is.

13:16If he's bad, get Kone, is everything Carpi? But it's not just that everything Carpi, is it? Imagine that player is in Meecha, but you won't get him until the middle of August. so he won't be ready for the start of the season? And also, he might have a bidding war and also, you might miss out on him. Or do you just take Kone, who would be ready for the start of the season and, you know, wants to sign? That's the situation. We may or may not find out who this player is. Hopefully we will. No doubt we'd mess both up anyway, says Luke. I think if we miss both up, that's when you start, you know, I don't know where you start going, man.

13:49Some people think it's Belaber if we miss out on these two. What I would tell you about Belaber is if we decide to shift to Belaber, it's still expensive. And I will always say this, if United dare to go for Belaber, and if they do, they'll get a lot of criticism. Some people will praise them, but they will get a lot of criticism. If they dare to go for him, he's not worth more than Santos. He's not worth more than Santos. I'm not having this. I'll have this right here right now. Santos went for 48 million pounds, right? He's the same age as Beléber and arguably he had a better season than him last year and arguably he's a better player.

14:27So why would you pay 70 million pounds for Beléber? He is not better than Santos on paper. Statistically, he's not better either, but he ain't better on the eye test either. So if we go and pay 70 million pounds for Beléber, why. Santos is literally as good as him. If you watch my preview for Wrexham that I put up this morning, I spoke about Santos. And although I think he's a bit underwhelming, as the Edison signing, I don't mind it. And actually, when you compare him to Belaber and Scott and everybody else, defensively, he does put the numbers in and offensively is the best on the ball. So we go and pay 70 million pounds for belabor that's embarrassing if you pay 50 for him that's not too bad but you can't tell me that belabor is better than um santos by 23 million pounds no way no way um three points in week one is worth as much as week 38 get it going says yabby we need kone and i believe he is the opposite option left for a casemiro replacement says chris watch Liverpool swoop in and steal Kone sad for us says Paul other clubs are starting to move we'll talk about that a little bit later I will get both midfielders because having good squad depth no sorry get me words out here Wilbur I would get both midfielders because having good squad depth never hurts since we'll have more games but who knows with this board and ownership why isn't Sangari in the same bracket as Kone says Extreme with Real look I'll be honest with you Sangari never enters my thoughts I know he enters a lot of yours and I've done it over the years you start scouting your own players saying we should go for this player we should go for this look I said it about Stiller I really do think Man United should be going for Stiller but he never enters my thoughts because we're not in for him and we're not in for Sangari as far as I were either so look it's I get and I respect the fact that a lot of you you know Mateus Fernandes I always big you up a lot of you were talking about Mateus Fernandes in January, February and March.

16:31And we nearly got him. And he was a fan pick. You know, he was one of those scouted fan players. And I think Sangari is one of those, but I've just never heard anything about it from Man United. Just go get Kone. We need to move on to other positions, says JMR. I agree with you. BRT says, do you think the secret midfielder could just be spin, ending in we tried, but at the end of the day, we still have Agate? no no no no BRT because we are literally holding up we're not talking to left backs we're not talking to wingers we are trying to get this third midfielder in if we're getting someone from another league getting them before the season is vital we have a good start to the season we don't need players finding their feet with harder games and also Patrick remember there's no early international break this season so this is a really good point from Patrick you know when we bought people like Agate and Rabat even Ronaldo you play those first three Premier League games then there's an international break that international break you've got your new signing who then either comes back to comes to Carrington and has a couple of weeks of you know conditioning or they go with their international team and have a couple of weeks of conditioning there is no international break until the end of September so bringing a player in at the end of the transfer window this year will hurt because you'll bring them in at the end of the window but then there'll be a game three days later because the champions league starts so waiting till the end of the transfer window this season is bad because there is no international rate to go welcome to the club do your pictures uh you know pop off on international duty get your fitness up it's straight in and it's international week as well i think that one sorry it's um champions league week as well so these players do need to be in early they do need to be in early especially like patrick says if they're they're not from the premier league uh pete phillips says if we've got 150 million budget.

18:16We're looking at two midfield options, 150, 180. You just work on an assumption of having 70 left for other areas, says Pete. Um, Tom and Tom and the World Cup championship will be crowned this week and you can trade the tourney through the finals on Calci, America's number one prediction market platform. Right now, Spain is trading at 58 % to beat Argentina, meaning 100 trade pays out 166 if they win. On Calci, you're trading against other people in a live market. no house no odds makers for a limited time download the calci app and use code defend to get ten dollars when you trade ten dollars k-a-l-s-h-i calci trade the beautiful game 18 plus only restrictions and eligibility requirements apply event contract trading involves risk and may not be suitable for all investors calci products are not available in all jurisdictions prices values and available markets may differ from those mentioned for For more information, see calsheet.com forward slash regulatory.

19:15Would you like to see McTominay back at Man United as corrupt? No, because I think I saw in the World Cup the very same Scott McTominay that played for Manchester United. And I think at Napoli, he's probably the same player that played at Manchester United. I don't see a place for Scott McTominay. And also, I think he's approaching 30. So I wish him all the best in Napoli, but he's not a player that United should bring back. you know Man United should bring back people like Ronaldo the day we start bringing back Scott McTominay I think we've got a big problem no offense wouldn't surprise me if the next midfielder is someone completely off the radar like Santos or Tielemans as Craig I mean it could be but it's hard to say who it would be Kamavinga the longer signing as a marquee I think, Sir Steven.

20:02Well, look, there is definitely something going to happen at Real Madrid big. Whether that's a midfielder like Enzo Fernandes or more likely Michael Elise, they are going to spend big, which probably leads to the conclusion that they're going to have to sell big. Now, if they're going to sell big, their only real asset is Camavinga. Now, if Camavinga becomes available, does Man United shift their plans towards him? But again, that's a long play. You know, that's a lot of ifs, buts and maybes. You know, the Kone deal is ready to go and there is competition. And whilst we're the priority for the player at the moment, we might not be next week.

20:49So if Kone goes off the table and then you wait for Camavinga with Real Madrid, you're waiting for that Alise deal to happen. that could take two or three weeks. You know, Camavinga doesn't come to Manchester United until the back end of August. What do we do about a left back then? So I think we've passed the point of let's wait for Camavinga. Let's wait for Scott. You know, I don't think we're in a position now to do what we did with Mateus Fernandes where we took all June being patient and waiting and the risk of it falling through as well. I think we need to move now. We have very limited time left in this window.

21:24we do need a left back we do need to solve the attack situation as well i don't think we can wait five weeks four weeks even three weeks on this midfielder um but yeah look you know there is a there is a conclusion that we could move on camavinga yeah definitely we spoke about at the start of the week um why we're not working on other deals anyway says pete thank you very much for that would you rate florentino luis as a good proven center defense center defense midfielder says Ajith look for me it's like Sangari you can throw names at me but I just don't have that mindset now I think we have to live in a real mindset and the real mindset is there are identifiable targets that we're talking to let's get it done and move on to the left back I think that is really important because the transfer window the exciting thing about the transfer window is the maybe.

22:19Maybe we'll do this. Maybe we'll do that. The bad thing about the transfer window is none of your decisions impact results. But when September comes, everything we've done in this transfer window or not done in this transfer window will bite us on the arse with no option to change it. And I'll say this very clearly, and I know most of you agree with me. left back is a problem it's a huge problem two games a week Luke short you know left back is not a oh shall we do something or oh let's get a you know backup in left back is going to bite us in the arse every bloody week sometimes twice a week if we don't get one in so yeah the midfield was very important this summer but so is left back really important So I want, you know, the minute we sign the midfielder, hopefully it's a good one.

23:13Yes, great, brilliant. Right, let's go. You know, that's what this window needs to be in the final few weeks to me. Poole, welcome to the members club. Thank you. United need a midfielder like Sukic from Inter Milan, says Johnny's obsessed with Sukic. I think the secret midfielder could be Ravella from Lazio. We sent people to Italy and he has a 50 million release clause, says Kristen. Remember, Kone is also Roma. do you think the secret midfielder could just be spin uh done that one okay right um i want to talk to you about the rashford situation we can always go back to that we've got over 10 000 people watching thank you very much do you think inios are keeping their plans buying a secret to stop itk's hyping transfer talks and inviting other interest if so it's a smart play let me answer that before i talk about rashford so you think united are keeping information from ITKs, hyping transfers and inviting other...

24:05Well, look, what I will say is you can only speak about what you know. Last summer, we knew about Inanna, DeLap. What else did we find out? There's a few things we knew last summer from our source, who I've said before is in the club. Very little from them this summer. Very little. The good information we've had, and it has been very, very good and continues to be very good, is not in United. They're not. It's more the agent world. So our information from the club a year ago is not good this summer. so based on what you're saying there brogie it's very obvious that the client journalists aren't getting anything i mean you had carl anchor in the athletic saying at the start of the week i spoke to someone at united and they're not in for kone on the same day romano and ornstein says that we are and you know i told you two days before that so i don't think the club are giving client journalists information.

25:16I don't think, well, we know, and I think it's fair to say, based on what's online, people who've got insiders in the club don't seem to be getting very good information either. We've seen people, I think there's people who get good information about injuries because that's easy. That's having somebody who works on security or somebody works at Carrington saying, I didn't see the lip today. That sort of stuff will always trickle out. but transfer information seems to have been tightened up within the club i would agree with you you can still get it but you've got to build relationships and you know that's why i think ornstein and romano still remain very good because a lot of their information does come from the club but also comes from somewhere else as well so yeah long answer but i think a lot of the traditional ways of getting information have been closed off whether that's for the benefits of transfers i don't know if we're getting on there if we're planning on getting a striker left wing or right back go for the one that's a good option defensively and could be done asap we need to get cracking says irish beckham thank you for your super chat sir get kone and if the other player becomes available get them to worry about it later as we would be a manager issue as to who plays says dan uh don't bank on shore says yabby no world cup spot to play for i just don't think luke shore can play two games in a week as well i might be wrong i might be pleasantly surprised but I think he was managing his body last year.

26:39I think when you're playing one game a week, you can almost play a game on the Saturday, rest on the Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, train a bit on the Wednesday, lighter on the Thursday, train again on the Friday, play on the Saturday. You can't do that when you've got two games a week. So I don't think at 31, Luke Shaw's body can even play two games a week. I might be wrong. Outgoings are concerning me, says Emily. We still have Xerxes hanging around and Rashford, who would rather be in Barcelona. There are other players who need to leave but won't happen. Well, let's talk about the Rashford situation because David Ornstein has basically put out something today.

27:16Marcus Rashford, 40 million exit clause, which is available to everybody apart from Liverpool and Man City, ended two days ago. Man United must now negotiate any future sale of Rashford. He returns to training after his international break. Approaches will be considered, but otherwise he stays at Manchester United. So, look, we're starting to get the PR around we want Rashford to stay at Manchester United in the sense that the club wants him to stay at Manchester United. I saw something today and I thought it was really good. I'm wondering if I can find it. Here it is. It was from an X account And I'm trying to see who it was who put it out there God they tweet a lot Okay yeah here it was UTD Cara it was And they basically said this People at Manchester United think we the fans are all dumb And we can't understand what they're trying to do with the Rashford situation fix a fake exit clause that no team will come and sign him bring Liverpool and Man City into the conversation when we all know they don't rate him anyway lie and convince the fans that any approach will be considered even if he returns to training then slowly integrate him back in and fool the fan base because they will believe it then if things don't go according to plan blame it on Carrick for playing him and sack him a few months later we've seen this script countless times um not to be unfamiliar with it only a blind fan will believe this rubbish so look there are fans out there that don't want rashford back um essentially i think united are going to bring him back i think i think they are um and savage says it's a nonsense comment look it's not a nonsense comment savage with all due respect because it's somebody's opinion and a lot of people agree with it you don't have to agree with it that's the whole point um some people really really want Rashford back some people really really don't want him back um I think there is a very high chance that he's coming back from what I've heard I think Manchester United are the villain in this piece and I think they've absolutely mugged themselves off I think from Rashford's situation what is he supposed to do right boss he said he wanted a new challenge he went to Villa on loan and then he got the Barcelona move.

29:47He went to Barcelona. He really enjoyed it. He was very happy not playing for Manchester United anymore. And then Barcelona didn't sign him. He then looks around at all his options and nothing compares to that. And he has two years left on his contract at Manchester United. So he's obviously said, there's nothing out there that I fancy. I've still got two years. I'm on 325 grand a week or whatever it is. I'm coming back. He has the power to do that. What What would you do in Rashford's situation if you wanted a new challenge, you don't want to be at Man United anymore, you go to Barcelona, it's your dream place, you're loving it, Champions League football, La Liga titles, everything's great, and then Barcelona don't sign you.

30:29What would you do? You're going to come back. I'm going to come back and I'm going to say it's your problem. You've got to pay me a massive wage, whether I'm on the bench or I'm starting, I'll come back, I'll train, but it's your problem. And also it's your problem to solve PR wise as well, because everybody knows what I said. I wanted a new challenge. So and everyone knows what you said. You put me in the bomb squad. So you find me a club or you solve this issue. I ain't got a problem with Rashford in that sense. United look like Prats, in my in my opinion, because they absolutely milk. And I call it the cringe squad.

31:11The bomb squad. I said it at the time. What bomb squad? Ganacho basically handed in a transfer request publicly. You had to sell him. Rashford had already said he wants a new challenge. Sancho, well, he went on loan. Who else was in the bloody bomb squad? Malassia didn't go anywhere. I mean, the bomb squad, more like the do nothing squad. I mean, we didn't do anything with the bomb squad, but we played it out as, oh, PR, PR, because that's what they do. oh look at the money we're saving on Rashford la la la la la and then a year later he's coming back because you can't sell him he's coming back because you can't find a loan deal so and you're going to pay him 300 grand a week to do it so you look absolute mugs you've sacked half the workforce you're apparently doing great things saving money you won't overpay on players you're now going to pay 325 grand a week to Marcus Rashford who you gloated you got rid of a year ago but you actually haven't got rid of.

32:08And he's got a two-year deal. So you've either got to give him another one or watch him run it down and walk out the door for free. So I'm sorry, I think United have messed this up. I understand Rashford's situation. Man, United look like a right bunch of prats. And the funny thing about it is they were putting out stories in January, February, March, April about, well, you know what? We're in control of this situation. If Barcelona think they're not going to pay for him, they are. I said this, I predicted this. we would end up in a situation where we look like mugs because the power was with Barcelona.

32:42We wouldn't loan him for another year. And the power is with Rashford. He's got two years left on his contract. Man United have got no power in this situation at all. So what they've got to do is, and that's where I agree with that comment, what they've got to do is they've got to try and pretend everything I've just said there isn't true and try and go, well, we always wanted him back anyway. You know, I know we put him in the bomb squad and I know we sort of made out how great we were for getting rid of him and saving all the money. But what we really wanted was him back playing for Man United.

33:14So they've got to sell that story now. Now you can either fall for that story or see the reality that this is not what United want at all. They want him off the wage bill. They wanted him off the wage bill the minute Ineos came in and they want him out of the club but they can't get rid of him so they've now got to pretend Sir Marcus Rashford is back he's a big player he's like a new signing and they've got to sell that PR the problem they've got is is Rashford actually any good you know he had a little bit of a glimpse in the World Cup but then couldn't get back in the team um is he actually any good does he actually work at Man United.

33:56I understand Carrick's point of view because he probably likes Rashford and says, well, I can get the best out of him. And if you're not going to buy me a winger or a striker, it's better to have Rashford. I understand that. But I think it's a mess. I think the whole situation is a mess. And I think it's embarrassing for the club. Somebody just said, come on, be honest. What do you want to happen? Well, I've run this poll so many times. Do Do you want Rashford back? Look I know people Who are part of the Rashford fan club They'll always want him back And I know people who don't want him anywhere near the club But I will not be a hypocrite on this Right I said this to you two months ago I'm conflicted on this Because I don't actually I think the club are to blame for this the club have fucked up big time i understand rashford situation i've been very critical of rashford in the past but i've also been very you know him and marcial were my favorite players a couple a few years ago not a couple years ago um but i if i was in marcus rashford shoes what am i supposed to do i'm what am i supposed to do i can earn 300 and something thousand pounds a week at man united or i can take a pay cut and go on loan somewhere shit um i think i'm gonna come back and get paid by you for the contract you gave me um and i i probably still do want to leave but you've got to do that for me so um but jennifer says it's time to move on I my fundamental non-hypocritical view is you should never go back I just I'm so rigid on this The World Cup Championship will be crowned this week and you can trade the tourney through the finals on Cauchy America's number one prediction market platform Right now, Spain is trading at 58 % to beat Argentina meaning 100 trade pays out $1.66 if they win.

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36:46If you were, if you were in a relationship with somebody and it breaks up for the reason it broke up, and then a year later, you're in a bar and you see them and you just have a chat and, oh, we're getting on really well. Let's, let's get back, you know, get back together. I guarantee those, that couple will break up again for the reason that they broke up in the first place. You can have a honeymoon. I've seen loads of mates get back with exes and stuff. Might give it six months, they'll break up again because the honeymoon period wears off and the reality comes back. I don't think you should go back.

37:20We've been linked to Memphis to Paya. I don't think we should go back. Even Ronaldo, where I broke my rule because it was like, oh my God, it's Ronaldo, that ended badly. It very rarely works when you go back, especially when there's baggage as to why you broke up in the first place. And there is definitely baggage between Rashford and Man United. It ended badly. And now we're pretending that everything's OK. We know it's not. We know United forced him out and we know that Rashford wanted to go. And now we're going to go, oh, everything's fine. We know why they're getting back together. They're getting back together because there's no option for him and there's no option for us.

38:01so the reason we're getting back together isn't even a good one so i just don't i i have to stick by this i don't think you should i don't think you should be going back i really don't think we should be going back and the problem with going back is as well is that if you're in a relationship and um you do something bad but it's the first time you may be able to fix it. But if you're in a relationship where you broke up because of something bad and then you get back together and that something bad happens, it's a lot bigger because you go, I knew it, I fucking knew it. And that there will be a lot of people in our fan base with Rashford that when he has a bad game or he doesn't pass and he takes a shot or he doesn't track back or, you know, whatever.

38:48People will go, I knew it, I knew it, I knew this is it. And then it's just bad for him bad for us and it's because of the club so i have to say i would rather everybody parted ways and i've actually been very comfortable with the last 18 months i think he's been doing really well at villa and barcelona and i think we've moved on um and you could also argue that we actually did start to remove players last summer under amarin and what we're doing under carry bringing them back we all know we needed to you know i'd still need to clear players out and we're actually going to bring people back so um yeah i think i think it's embarrassing on the club side i understand rashford side but i think on the club side it's it's embarrassing to be going back when you know they they lived off the pr of getting rid of him but that's my opinion uh 73 3 % of you wouldn't bring him back and 27 % of you would.

39:46Kiel says, Rashford has new motivation. Barca embarrassed him. Okay. I'd rather keep Rashford and sign a left back because with him, Kunja and Dorghu, there won't be as much pressure on him and the left wing market isn't great, says Adam. Marcus needs to face reality, says Alamir. Can Atletico Madrid sign Rashford instead of Greenwood, says Sudi. And if Rashford comes back, he will have to play well every game or he will get pelters as soon as he has a bad game. I like him, but I don't want him back, says United Nick. And only guys I want on the left wing is Somerville and Dorgou, says Recon guy.

40:19Well, look, the Somerville argument is interesting because as we know, United do want him but can't sign him while Rashford's here. The minute Rashford left, we'd probably sign Somerville. So that's another fair point. You know, if Rashford had gone to Barcelona, we'd probably sign Somerville by now. So if you'd prefer to sign Somerville over Rashford, this whole mess is stopping that. Now Rashford exit would be blamed on Amarim Says Ishan Yeah but you know what It can't ever be blamed on Amarim I don't think even Rashford's side Would blame it on Amarim Unless it's all part of the PR thing Ineos came in And wanted to lower the wage bill

41:06Casemiro Sancho Rashford were three Get them out ASAP Sancho's gone this summer Casemiro's gone this summer they thought they got rid of Rashford last year JSD says let Rashford rot in the reserves you see how quick he leaves then and Ami says if Rael go for Elisa could Bayern want Rashford deal doable at 40 to 50 million I don't think Bayern are stupid enough to spend that amount of money on Rashford but I did say to you months ago Bayern Munich and Rashford's not a bad idea

41:39he would cook in that league he would definitely do well in that league Junkyard James says they will play Kobe on Saturday he should refuse and start pre-season Almey I'm going to talk about in a minute Alamea says what about selling Mount, Shaw and Deleu by still a haul and a prospect ruthlessness without goings should be the club's next big thing as a strategy I mean I like the cut of your jib but pray tell me who's going to spend money on Mason Mount and Luke Shaw because I've got a broken wheelbarrow i'd like to sell for a million as well um rashford wants out wants his pay but won't go to saudi or turkey says anthony um there's so many belabor bots in the chat says adam uh let them let them do it let them do it it's fine um if carrot gets the best out of rashford surely we want that eight months ago fans wanted bruno gone now he's breaking records and they love him says Craig um will you take Rashford back to fund the left back says Adityo mate Rashford coming back's not funding anything he's going to cost us nearly one and a half million a month like those wages are the things that kills Man United's budget transfer fees don't kill our budget you can you can buy a player for 60 million and pay it off over five years you know a 60 million signing probably costs you about 10 million a year Rashford's wages That's north of 15 million pounds a year So his wages are a killer That's why they wanted to get rid of him So I don't think Rashford funds anything I think Rashford coming back Costs us a lot of money We haven't paid his wage for 12 months Because it's been at Barcelona We're paying his wage today Me and my fiance Sorry, Rola says Me and my fiance were together for three years We broke up for five and have been back together very, very happily for eight years and getting married next year, says Roller.

43:36There you go. Exception to the rule. There can be them. What are your thoughts on Martinez flying the flag about the Falklands? Would you sell him or give him a big bollocking, says George? I mean, we did speak about it yesterday. I don't want to sell Martinez. Didn't Newcastle want Mount for 60 million, says Kiel? No. No. No, they didn't. Let me talk to you about Maynew. We've got nearly 12 ,000 people watching this morning. thank you very much for tuning in um normal eight o 'clock show tonight and we've got an exciting two o 'clock show for you today i can't reveal what's going to happen but we're very excited about it so make sure you check out the 2 p.m show live on the channel um so look a few a few things i want to talk about here um we've done a bit of news let's do something a little bit topical um a little bit of criticism coming out about mainu today um with regards to england um sam c put this post out thomas tucall speaking after england's world cup exit ball possession is not in our in the english dna like it is with spain or argentina no structure in the world could have helped us we struggled um there's a lot to improve um and a couple of stories saying that um there was a game during the world cup where rice was struggling and the expectation here it is in the A week before England's second World Cup match against Ghana, Declan Rice was struggling.

45:00Maynou played central midfield with Elliot Anderson in training, and there was a feeling he would be in line to feature. But Tuchel had not liked what he'd seen. And after almost every match, Maynou was the first player to leave the stadium, always alone with headphones in. So the feeling is that, you know, Maynou forced his way into the England squad. But when he was actually part of the squad, Tuchel didn't rate him. there's going to be a lot of people in this chat and there's going to be a lot of people, United fans, defending Maynou like I'm about to do and, you know, call Tuchel out for that, of course.

45:38But let me just play devil's advocate here. Amirim didn't fancy Maynou and Tuchel didn't fancy Maynou and we can put that down to Amirim and Tuchel are bad coaches or we can put it down to that his particular skill set appeals to some and not to others. And we must be mature about that. Bruno Fernandes in a Portugal side was crap in this World Cup, but in a Man United side, he's one of the best players in the world. Maynou in a Man United shirt for five months has been very, very good for us. But maybe in other teams, it wouldn't work. I'm mature enough to accept that. It doesn't make him a bad player.

46:19and it doesn't make us wrong for saying we think he's a good player. But, you know, there are people in this fan base who still don't think Manu's that good. There are people in this fan base that don't rate Manu. So I do and most of you do, but there is still a question mark about Manu and I think we need to be mature about that. The main thing is let's get him back to Manchester, let's get him back in that midfield and let's see the player we believe is a player to build our midfield around. I'm not particularly bothered about what Thomas Tuchel thinks because Amrind thought the same. And maybe the way he wants to play, Manu's lack of mobility and defensive work would have been a problem.

47:04Fair enough. Maybe that's very similar to Amrind, who felt that Manu's lack of pace and defensive work was a problem. Maybe they're wrong to have that assumption, But ultimately, in the United side, from January to the end of the season, he did really well. And I'm excited to have him back as part of Amad Fielder. So, look, I'm not particularly bothered about why Tuchel didn't pick Mainou. Because Mainou didn't play any minutes and England messed up against Argentina. So, Mainou's got no responsibility for that at all. What I want is Mainou back in a Man United shirt, playing for us, doing his job for Man United.

47:40Because, you know what? Breaking news. it's actually what he does in a Man United shirt that matters to me. I said to you, as much as it's great for Manu to get called up to England, I'd rather he hadn't. I'd rather they took Adam Wharton because ultimately what I feared might happen has happened. He's lost a rest and pre-season to go and sit on the bench and do nothing for England. And I wish he'd never been picked because Man United comes first to me and he's not a starter for England either. So he's basically sat on his arse for nearly two months when he could have been on a beach for a month and then pre-season ready to go for us.

48:23And I think for a player that's 21, he's still developing as well. So I wish he hadn't been picked by England. It's been a waste of time, but obviously he would have wanted to be picked. So you're happy for him. I wish he'd never been picked. I think it would have been better for us if he hadn't been picked, but he has. So let's get him back. Let's get him back for the season. Got Champions League football. I ain't got no concerns about Mani. I've got no concerns at all. I'm not getting involved in online debates about whether he's good enough or not. Look, maybe Pep Guardiola wouldn't pick him.

48:55Maybe Arteta wouldn't pick him. Maybe Klopp wouldn't pick him. But it doesn't matter. Carrick does. We like him. It's what he does in a Man United shirt that matters. Several reports Newcastle had a bid blocked. Keel, I'll tell you what, if somebody can prove to me that Mason Mount had a bid for him this summer, I'll still call them a liar. Nobody is stupid enough to offer£60 million for a player we paid£55 million for who's been basically injured for three years. No one is going to pay real money. It might have been Monopoly money, but no one's going to pay real money for him. I really can't see us getting haul, says Josh.

49:35If you actually look at left-backs, there really aren't that many around. I can see us getting Robinson. I'll be all right, Josh. I'll be all right with Anthony Robinson. I'll be all right with Anthony Robinson. I'll leave it at that.

49:56We're not going to sell those players. I think this is a great, just going back to the Maynou thing, I think this is probably the best comment. Ami says England misused Scholes and Carrick we shouldn't bother about Maynou not getting picked hopefully he's fresh for this season you know what I felt it's a shame actually we weren't doing United stand at this time because there was a period between 2006 and 2014 where I fell out of love with England I couldn't fucking stand us in 2008 where we didn't even qualify for the Euros. 2010, we were shit. 2012, we were shit. The World Cup in 2014, we were shit.

50:40For that eight years, I could never understand why Michael Carrick didn't start every game for England. He was the most cultured holding midfielder we'd ever had. He was basically like a Rodri before Rodri. And England just didn't figure it out at all. just didn't figure it out at all so do i care that mainly doesn't play for england no because i've seen michael carrick get completely ignored when he offered exactly what england needed and and he was the only player that did it only player that could do that job and and you're right skulls used to get put on the left wing so look i couldn't get a shit about the england thing it's about what he does in a Man United shirt that matters.

51:29Absolutely.

51:33Paul says, people going back can only work if the person coming back has changed.

51:41And you know what, Paul? I think that's the thing about just going back to the Rashford thing. Has Rashford changed and has Man United changed from the reason they departed? Man United wanted Rashford gone because of his wage and they still do. So we haven't changed. Rashford left for a new challenge and was happy, but Barcelona don't want him. So has he changed? No. This is coming back together because there's no other choice. Mang and I haven't changed and I don't think Rashford's changed. So we're not even coming back together for the right reasons. We're coming back together because there's no other option.

52:18So I think you make a good point, Paul, as well. If you come back together because you love each other and you know you desperately want to come back together maybe it can work maybe it can't but that's not happening here the PR will say it is because that's how PR works but there's no way United want him back and I don't think there's any way Rashford really wants to come back compared to what he had at Barcelona so I think it's look it could still work in the way that he comes back for a little bit and then we loan him off somewhere but where are we going to loan him off to. Barcelona probably don't want to loan him anymore.

52:55I don't know. But there might be opportunities in August. There might be. There might be. Great show this morning. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Hope you have as well. Let's wait and see on all the things that we've been discussing. God, it feels like a long time ago that we were talking about the Kone stuff. I've pinned it in the live chat. I'll put it in the video description as well. I dropped a bit it's not really a Wrexham preview it's talking about what's what's what's what I'm excited about um ahead of the Wrexham game tomorrow and there's there's a few separate things so so check it out and uh it's only a 10 minute video um it's on the home page it's in the live chat and I'll put it in the video description take care everyone stay safe and um I will speak to you well I'm back on the eight o 'clock show but we've got a very exciting show for you at 2pm as well.

53:48Thanks for watching. Stay safe.

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