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1:21Hello, everybody. Good morning. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United transfer news as we discuss an injury bro, an injury bro, an injury blow for Kobi Maynou. We'll also be talking about the latest around Kone, Scott, Palmer, Benicius Jr., Somerville, all incomings for Manchester United. We'll also be reacting a little bit of an opinion piece from Andy Mitton, which I think adds to the opinion piece I did last night about the Morgan Rodgers signing. so many people in the comments of that video talking about we've made these mistakes in the past and we and i don't want morgan rogers completely missing the point that we haven't spent more than 90 million pounds on a player for a decade and everybody else around us is doing it um and some of our fans back this and i think they're indoctrinated into the ownership who aren't doing it because they think it's the way to be successful they're doing it because they're tight um and you know can we be successful when we can't compete for the players that we want and basically what Andy Mitton is saying is that Morgan Rodgers, Mateus Fernandes, Elliot Anderson, they wanted those players.

2:27So there's a contradiction with some people in our fan base going, well, I'm glad we're not buying them, but the club wanted them. They just can't afford them. So if you take that, that United wanted Anderson, Fernandes and Rodgers and they can't afford them, that's not a different pathway. That's not a different transfer strategy. That's an open admission. We can't afford the players that we actually want. so how are we building success when we can't get the plan and a and b that we actually want you know and it's 10 years since we've spent more than 90 million pounds on a player and revenue has gone up you know 10 years ago the revenue man united were making um is is very very different to what they're making now um there's no microphone which is well i've got a microphone just refresh it uh just refresh it um so um yeah loads of people can hear me it's probably just people in the chat uh doing their normal stuff so look let's get straight into the show i want to talk about the injury blow for kabi mainu so basically mainu did not get involved in the game yesterday and um it was basically um a scenario where thomas tuchel has come out um and and basically said that Mainu didn't play because he picked up an injury in training.

3:45That injury in training is a back issue. Now, I think that's an arse issue. And I think it's a splinter on the bum issue from sitting on the bench for so long issue. And he's probably got a numb arse in relation to sitting down for so long. So I personally don't think there is a problem with Mainu. I think the issue with Maynou is non-existent I was listening to the commentary last night Because I didn't do a watch-along for it And they were basically saying that After the semi-final You just want to go on holiday You've been part of the group for about 6-7 weeks After a long season And you know today you're getting on a plane To go on holiday for 3 weeks If you pick up an injury You're going straight back to your club to be assessed You're not going on holiday so a lot of players will be thinking I don't want to push it I don't want to go and get injured so there is a chance that Maynou and we know what Maynou's we had the whole t-shirt thing rightly or wrongly I think Maynou may have just gone I don't want to play in this game I'm a bit pissed off and he has done that with United and to be honest with you it's a very different story when it's United when it's England I sort of understand that he's wasted his whole summer and why should you what does Manu benefit from playing in that game last night?

5:09I told you so. I mean, so what? So I think Manu will be fine is my prediction. I think we have to be a little bit wary that the injury could be genuine but I would say he's absolutely fine and I would say it's just avoiding the game for England because he doesn't really see the benefit of it and it's a big season for him. So he wasn't on the bench for England. He didn't play any minutes because apparently he's got an injury. I don't know whether he does. We'll find out in three weeks when he comes back for Man United fully fit. If he doesn't come back fully fit and he has got an injury, then, you know, that would just cap off a crap summer for him.

5:47But I personally think this is just should be a friendly up your arse because it was just a friendly. And I don't know that he'll be getting in England squads in the future anyway, whilst Thomas Tuchel's the manager. So, yeah, look, I'm not too worried about that. It's one to monitor, but I don't think it's going to be a key issue for Manchester United there and I'm probably with the majority. I don't really blame him for swerving the game. If you play that game and you pick up an injury, what a waste of time, you know? And people will say, well, you know, he looked fine at full time. I think he's just swerved that game.

6:19And to be honest with you, being a petulant person myself, I probably would swerve it as well, which is why I didn't swerve the 10 o 'clock show this morning because I was being petulant. Seb had a match this morning and they got absolutely hammered. and you know that's the humbling of football sometimes isn't it but look I think Manu will be fine but we do have to cover the potential injury there but my guess is that yeah there's nothing wrong with him we'll have to wait and see talking about some injury stuff or what sorry transfer stuff a few few updates to bring in this morning so the Athletic are basically saying that Roma have made an offer of about 40 million pounds for Somerville West Ham are still looking for about 50.

6:59This is a player that United really do like, by the way, but we can't do anything because of Rashford. The feeling is that the offer from Roma will be too low and that might stop this deal happening quickly, which may still leave the door open for Manchester United. I don't know how long that door can stay open because, you know, we've got to figure out what we're doing with Marcus Rashford first, I suppose. But more importantly, let's talk about the midfield. Somebody said, what do you mean about the eyes on I shouldn't have done that tweet last night um I put a tweet out last night after the Morgan Rogers story and I put eyes and Cole Palmer even Beth was like is that from your source this is not from our good source this is just I have heard for the list last six months from various people and I would shout them out if it ever came off keep an eye on Cole Palmer to Manchester United now this would be absolutely stunning we spoke about Vinicius junior yesterday.

7:54I think Man United should be looking to do these sort of deals. But the fact that we're not, we're not going to sign Cole Palmer. We're not going to sign Cole Palmer. Let's get real. There has been rumours all summer and I'd be lying if I said to you that there hadn't been little stories all summer, but nobody believes them. And I don't think United would do anything about it. Where United are at the moment though on the midfield, a few people messaged me last night about Scott. I don't know where the new stories about Scott have come from, but there is no new story about Scott. Man United aren't in the habit of leaking their stories to anybody at the moment anyway.

8:29So United aren't leaking who they're talking to. The truth around the midfield at the moment is that we've held more talks with Kone and his representatives. We're definitely keeping that on. If you can imagine, and I don't know how many of you do this, if you ever boiled an egg or made some pasta on the hob. We've got Kone transfer story on the hob, simmering at the moment. It's not boiling. It's not boiling hot. It's not 9 out of 10 on the hot-o-meter, but it's simmering. It's about a steady 7. We are keeping the heat on. We are having more talks. Kone is definitely an ongoing option for Manchester United.

9:08There is a warning sign that Chelsea, as we've seen, can just swoop in and do a deal. but Man United are still continuing talks with Kone and his representatives that is still as of the last few days ongoing with regards to Scott there's no talks with Scott there's nothing with Scott there is no talks of Bournemouth there is no talks with the agent he's not even for sale he's not decided his future yet so Scott I would put in the bucket of Rodgers and Anderson, not even Fernandes because we had talks with him. I would put Scott with Rodgers and Anderson. 100 % a player that Man United admire and they like and they may have held talks within the club about him but anything external is not happening at the moment because he is not for sale and his price is 80 million.

10:00We'll start there. So United are not in talks with Scott. They're not in talks with Bournemouth. They're not advancing anything there. So I don't know whether that's just paper talk, Sunday morning talk, but there's nothing advancing with Scott at the moment. And I honestly don't think it will. I like the player, but I don't think it will. I think where we are at the moment is that Manu Kone fits the bill for Manchester United. We're probably going to look to spend around£50 million again and we're probably going to go with a similar signing to Santos and Tillemans again of that sort of level.

10:39And I think Kone does fit that sort of level of what Man United want to do. We also want to do other deals as well. We want to sign players in different positions, but we're not going to sign anybody else until we resolve the third midfielder. Because the problem is, if the Manu-Kone deal doesn't happen, unless there's a real shock signing that no one's talking about, and that mystery midfielder could be that, everybody else will cost you quite a bit of money so that would impact man united's budget to go and get a left back or a backup striker so at the moment it's all focused on one deal at a time as calvin says but hot off the press this morning if you can say that the talks are ongoing with and that's the only player definitively that united are talking to at the moment we're certainly not in talks with scott at the moment and um if that changes which i don't think it will if that changes i would uh i would certainly uh um it certainly wouldn't surprise me uh apparently your internet is shite uh sorry if i mean i've been doing it for 10 years uh apologies for that um i mean youtube says the stream is healthy and i've got all green bars on mine so apologies if you're having problems this morning but uh yeah i've been doing it for 10 years and there's nothing flashing up at our side and trust me we have had issues in the past so apologies if you're having any issues um do you think rashford could go to villa now that rogers went to chelsea marcus rashford doesn't want to play for any other premier league club other than man united um he doesn't feel that that is his pathway i'm speaking like i know rashford but i do know this um rashford hasn't got an appetite to go to another premier league club um manchester united is his Premier League club.

12:25And I don't think he wants to go and do that. The loan deal suited him. And maybe, I'm not saying he wouldn't loan himself to another Premier League club, but he won't be moving to another Premier League club. I know it's only the first pre-season game, but my God, Luke Shaw twice a week in Champions League is going to be scary. Hope they get someone else. Look, Arshan, I'll put this in here as a bit of bonus content for you because I love Ricky. I know a lot of you love Ricky as well. I literally got a voice note after my match reaction last night and uh he won't mind me saying this because he's probably put it on his Instagram already he was basically saying that it was Aiden Heaven's fault um Luke Shaw even though he had a man to mark could see that Aiden Heaven wasn't tight enough to the striker so he you know pulled rank because he's more experienced and moved to mark the striker and left his man so Ricky blames Aiden Heaven um I said to him mate he's passed it and you can't blame Aidan Heaven for that because the cross goes to the back post, which is Luke Shaw's man.

13:28And Luke Shaw can't be pulling rank to do Aidan Heaven's job. He's got to do his own job. And Ricky went, nah. So look, I'm not going to say anything else. That's what I said. That's what Ricky said. Choose your horse. S Rivers said, I've become more convinced that Scott is the third midfielder. It makes sense if United are waiting on his talks with Bournemouth by earlier this week plus sully's info says s rivers i mean if you want to believe that that's up to you um i think that in relation to that particular source they are a club source um and i've never really trusted their transfer information either and they're certainly not in talks with the sort of people that we've spoken to so i don't think we're in talks with alex scott at all and if that's where the information's coming from then probably that makes sense why a lot of people are talking about it respect to anybody in this space that is putting information out there for me i think he's quite good at injuries because he knows somebody at carrington um i think i think they're on security or something so he knows who's coming in and out of the ground but in relation to transfers i don't trust it at all um i think he was wrong on embermo last year he's wrong on fernandez and we're not in talks with scott so and i know that So, but, you know, believe what you want.

14:42It's all about opinion. That's why you get multiple choice. But we are in talks with Kone as revealed by us. And, you know, obviously this time last week, I put it out there about Tillemans. So believe what you want. Make your own decisions up. Believe Ricky on Luke Shaw if you want, you know. Mark Lopez Cabral, the secret signing. Not heard anything about that, Rajab. We shouldn't be judging transfers by the fee. We should be judging them on the return on the investments as or. look just going back to that right i did that video last night about the rogers deal and the great thing about life is there's different levels of intelligence and when i say intelligence i'm not saying you're stupid if you only want to buy players under 50 million i'm saying you lack intelligence if you can't listen to a conversation before making your mind up i literally did a video last night talking about how the morgan rogers deal means that chelsea topnam liverpool arsenal Man City are regularly buying players around 100 million pounds, and we haven't done it for 10 years.

15:41I was simply making the observation that those five clubs are more ambitious than us. The World Cup Championship will be crowned this week, and you can trade the tourney through the finals on Cauchy, America's number one prediction market platform. Right now, Spain is trading at 58 % to beat Argentina, meaning 100 trade pays out 166 if they win. On Cauchy, you're trading against other people in a live market. No house, no odds makers. For a limited time, download the Calci app and use code DEFEND to get$10 when you trade$10. K-A-L-S-H-I. Calci. Trade the beautiful game. 18 plus only. Restrictions and eligibility requirements apply.

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16:58No purchase necessary. Visit at moto.us for more details download the moto casino app today must be 21 plus moto casino america's social casino we haven't signed a player of that value for 10 years now you can agree with it respect i said that on the video you can i respect if you think we should buy cheap players and that's the way you want to go absolutely fine but you can't come back at those of us who say we're unambitious by saying well we're not unambitious look at the mistakes we've made buying players expensively before um you know and you know it doesn't mean that we'll be successful now and i'm like i literally said that in the video i knew people would say well we did that in the past but man city did it in the past arsenal have just done it in the past they've won the league they've won the league liverpool did it they've won the league we bought stupid players for stupid prices and gave them stupid wages i wouldn't mind man united buying an expensive success instead of an expensive mistake.

17:57I wouldn't mind Manchester United going and spending £120 million on Vitinha or João Neves. I'd love it. And that's my point. I'm not saying that we haven't made mistakes in the past. But the reality is, the question is, if Man United haven't bought a£90,£100 million player for 10 years and all our other rivals are doing that, we better hope they're all buying flops because if they're not, they're operating in a market we're not entering. And is that going to hurt us? Well, I think it will. That's my opinion because I have seen United for a lot longer than most of you because of age, and we used to do this.

18:42For Elliot Anderson, read Rio Ferdinand. For Morgan Rodgers, read Andy Cole. for Tonali I mean Rooney's better than him but we've always used to go and buy these types of players and now we're not and the contradiction is exactly what Andy Mitton said the contradiction is we are a contradiction as a football club because although there are some fans saying I don't want Morgan Rodgers I don't want Elliot Anderson I don't want the Vandes at that price which is your right The cold harsh truth is Man United really like Morgan Rodgers Man United really wanted Elliot Anderson Man United really wanted Mateus Fernandes So the message from the club is not that they don't want those players It's that they can't afford those players Which is a very different thing to what some people Some people in fairness are just very, very rigid In the sense that They want everything United do to be correct Unfortunately, 13 years of failure Proves that we do get a lot of things wrong But It's not that your opinion's wrong I mean, this is what Andy Mitton said Morgan Rodgers is going to Chelsea For£117 million Manchester United loved Morgan Rodgers Mateus Fernandes And Elliot Anderson And whilst the signings so far have been alright This just shows the reality That Man United are not going to spend £100 million on a player the money isn't there.

20:16So that's the message. It's not speculative. United wanted Elliot Anderson. They wanted Mateus Fernandes. They wanted Morgan Rodgers, but they can't afford them. Deal with that statement. Don't deal with, well, I didn't want them anyway, or don't deal with, well, I think we shouldn't spend that money. Answer that question. United wanted Morgan Rodgers they wanted Elliot Anderson and they wanted Mateus Fernandes but they can't afford them that's very different to we didn't want them anyway we're just going to buy 50 million pound players if United had come out and said we know everybody we want and they're all under 50 million pounds and that's what we want to do that's very different to we do want those players but we can't afford them because that sends the message out that if things go wrong next season and hopefully they won't.

21:05They can almost hide behind their own incompetence of, well, we did want Elliot Anderson. We did want Mateus Fernandes. We did want Morgan Rodgers, but we couldn't afford them. And the blame game gets shifted, doesn't it? My personal opinion is I don't care about the price. I care about plan A, B and C. I've always said that. Always said that. Many of you have said it as well. To me, it's not the price. If you've got a player that's at Burnley with one year left on his contract and he's 23 and he looks like he's going to be the best player England have ever had and just by circumstance, he's got one year left on his contract at Burnley and the price is set at 40 million and there's a bit of a bidding war, but he chooses Man United.

21:51Oh, you've spent 40 million pounds on him. That same player could be at Tottenham looking to leave with a four-year a deal and be£120 million. So it's not really the price. And I think some people don't understand this. I don't massively care about the price. You get what you pay for, but there are parameters that dictate the price. I just want us to get plan A, B and C. And I think this is where people don't listen because they get so locked in on their own opinion. Like somebody said last night, well, a few years ago, you were saying you don't want us paying big wages anymore. No, Yeah, you've left the context out, haven't you?

22:24I don't want us to keep paying silly wages for players that don't deserve it. I don't mind giving Tenali 250 grand a week. I don't mind giving Bruno 350 grand a week. I don't mind giving Erling Arlen half a million pounds a week because I think that in the context of the world of football, they're probably worth it. I do not want to give Luke Shaw 200 grand a week. I do not want to give Mason Mount 250 grand a week. that's what I don't want to see so for me it's not really about Morgan Rodgers for£117 million and whether he's worth it the point is people are worth what people are willing to pay and if we're not willing to pay then we won't get those players and I think that's to me what I find quite confusing is when people go well he's overpriced maybe he is maybe he isn't but if you want the player that's what you've got to pay or you end up without it and if United put Elliot Anderson as plan A and they don't get him and they put Mateus Fernandes as plan B and they don't get him and they put Tonali as plan C and they don't get him and they put Chumini as plan D and they don't get him well I know we're on plan E whoever it is that's my problem I don't care whether plan A costs 40 or 100 I want us to get plan A and B because I've seen so many you know what it is and I'm sure you'll all agree with me on this I get tired of the repetition of Manchester United where a manager fails because they're not given what they want.

23:51You go back to Louis van Gaal and look, to be fair, David Moyes didn't get that. I mean, David Moyes had the worst transfer window out of everybody. As much as I think David Moyes was a terrible appointment, I can't lie. He got the worst transfer window of everybody. That was apt. I mean, considering he was taking over the title holders and, you know, 20 something years of Sir Alex Ferguson. That transfer window was shit. Moyes got the worst transfer window anybody ever got. So it started with Moyes. It then continued with Van Gaal and Mourinho and Oli and Ten Hag and Amarim and everything in between.

24:27United have never given a manager plan A or B signings. It's always plan D, E and F. And I just want a manager to get plan A and B because if it goes wrong, even if it goes wrong with Tillemans and Santos, and I hope it doesn't, we'll still be sat there going well Carrick didn't get what he wanted there's no way that Santos and Tillemans were what he wanted you know they're probably plan d e and f and and that's the point I'm making it's like obviously you get what you pay for and sometimes if you want plan a you've got to pay big money but surely the quest is to get what what the manager wants and what the club wants and we haven't done that and that's what that's what bothers me and I absolutely will say this.

25:09You are going to struggle to get plan A, B and C when you refuse as a football club to spend big money. I mean, Paul Pogba, 10 years ago,£89 million was a very good signing. People think he was a flop. He wasn't. There was problems, but he wasn't a flop in my opinion. Paul Pogba at£89 million was a statement signing and he did reasonably well. We haven't repeated that for a decade. Forget Morgan Rodgers, forget Elliot Anderson, answer the question. If you're not buying plan A, B and C consistently and you haven't broke your transfer record for a decade, are you moving forward or are you moving backwards?

25:56Categorically, I think you're moving backwards and that's something United don't seem to be able to do anymore And I think that's a problem. As for the prices, look, I did read a very interesting point last night. Inadvertently, we've just helped Chelsea buy Morgan Rodgers because we overpaid for Santos. We gave them 50 million pounds for Santos. And in that little 20 million that they've got extra, they basically bought a 90 million pound player for 20 million more. So we've probably facilitated Chelsea to do it. Now, I'm not going to blame United for that. I said this on That's Football yesterday.

26:29There's this strange cycle going on. And I don't know whether it's cheating because I don't know whether the clubs are doing it on purpose. But you get Tonali going to Spurs for 90 million. And then you've got Newcastle looking to give Spurs 50 for Bergvot. And you're sort of like... You've got Man City giving Forrest 117 million for Anderson. but then you've got Spurs giving Man City 70 million for Savinho who's a bench player you've then got Chelsea giving 117 million pounds to Villa but Nicholas Jackson might be going to Chelsea there's and we saw this a few years ago with a load of young players Chelsea Everton Newcastle and somebody else did it now it's happening at the top level inflated prices you've almost got to take 20, 30 million pounds off because for every Morgan Rogers, Chelsea will be selling somebody overpriced as well.

27:27And this is where we're struggling. We can't even do that. Spurs are buying big, but they're selling big. Man City are buying big, but they're selling big. Chelsea are buying big, but they're selling big. So you pay 20, 30 million pounds more for a player that is worth, but then you sell a player for 20, 30 million pounds more. So look, basically Aston Villa sorry Chelsea have really bought Morgan Rodgers for 90 because Santos to me is worth 30 and we've given 50 so 110, 117, whatever they'll make that up on Nicholas Jackson as well so I wouldn't look at the price of Elliot Anderson because Elliot Anderson 116 million they're selling Savino for 70 Savino's worth about 45 So they've made 25 million on Savino more than they should have done.

28:20Take that off Elliot Anderson. They've just bought him for 90. So this is what I mean. If you can't sell in this market, it's a killer. And what I mean by that is maybe United could have bought Mateus Fernandes for 85 million and squared it off that he's overvalued by 20 by selling somebody like Mason Mount for 50. You know, Mason Mount's not worth 50, he's worth 30. But we haven't got anybody to do that with. So I'm not blaming the club on that. I'm just saying there is a weird window going on where everybody is buying big. He's also selling big. And that's why I think the transfer fees are distorted because, yeah,£117 million is a lot of money.

28:59But Chelsea have already made 20 on a player that's worth 30 and we gave them 50. And Nicholas Jackson's probably going to go for about 50. So you're making the money back, aren't you? If we can't sell, we can't compete. So many teams are selling over price and it's all happening in the Premier League as well. That's the weird thing to me. It's all happening in the Premier League. None of these players are being sold abroad because the abroad clubs can't afford the fees. So there's all this money swashing around. It's not money laundering. It's just cycling of money. You overpay for him and we'll overpay for him.

29:32And some of them are doing it between multiple clubs. Some of them are doing it direct. Chelsea will probably buy Morgan Rodgers and Villa will apply Nico Jackson. But some of them are doing it around like that. And that hurts us as well, because if we pay 85 million for Mateus Fernandes, we are overpaying, but we're not selling anybody overpriced to make a little bit back. So yeah, it is problematic. And I don't know how we're going to solve that as well. I mean, I have seen a story, actually I did want to bring this in. A couple of stories, I'll get into your comments in a minute. A couple of stories about Milan and Ahmad over the last few weeks.

30:10And there was another one today. is there any smoke without fire um if we start selling people like Ahmad if we start selling people like um i'm trying to think who else if we start selling people like Ahmad or Masraoui or um try to think of anybody else even a Yoro we sell start selling players like that that's when you do worry about being in Everton because you're selling players we need to make money um what we need to sell is players we don't want and I don't know whether we have anybody like that coming forward I really don't um would you sell Ahmad for 70 million well but that that won't happen because the only club interested in Ahmad is AC Milan and they won't be able to afford that so Ahmad won't be heading anywhere but if you were selling Ahmad in this market in the Premier League you'd say to Spurs we want 70 for Ahmad and you're getting 20 over value uh that's my point but I wouldn't sell him uh Xerxes needs to go he's dreadful says Daniel yeah I mean look it's a pre-season game yesterday and I've moved on from it very quickly I think you have to um I think you take the learnings and you move on i think the learnings from yesterday were in my match reaction that luke shaw's a problem at left back and xerxes is never going to be a striker because i don't think he understands the role um but united can't sell so ultimately rashford's going to come back and we can't buy a winger and xerxes is going to stay and we can't buy a striker um this is a problem that's been a problem at the football club for a long time it's like you said before any of sport into the club we will never be until we get rid of the glazers clear debt and start spending like other clubs says rem look it's like um the reality is as fans we already know the reality like you know morgan rogers goes to chelsea for 117 million pounds if united like cole palmer they should be knocking down 120 million pound bid today see if chelsea sniff at that or 120 million pound for Casado.

32:25Like, Chelsea aren't in the Champions League. A big club that's ambitious would go and knock on the door and say, there's£120 million for Caicedo. Do you want it? There's £120 million for Cole Palmer. Do you want it? Now, you might not agree with that, but that's exactly what I'm talking about. We don't even have the ability to do that. Arsenal do. Liverpool do. Chelsea do Spurs do Man City do We don't And this is where people get confused Well I wouldn't spend 120 on Cole Palmer Well good for you But who would you spend 120 million pounds on Because we wouldn't spend it anyway We can close the door On loads of deals That loads of other clubs will do And we won't And I don't think that's a good thing I don't I mean I don't want to spend 100 million pounds On Adam Wharton I don't But I wouldn't mind spending 100 million pounds on certain other players, but we won't.

33:20We can't. We're not that club. Our rivals can. So we end up in this world of let's hope cheap signings end up being really good and let's hope that all these expensive signings flop. That's our tactic now. We need to buy cheap players that overachieve and hope that all our rivals, their expensive signings flop. And that's not guaranteed, is it? we have to we have to Ahmad to sell for 50 plus we just don't sell so sunrises would yeah but would you do it would you sell Ahmad I wouldn't sell Ahmad some of you would though I put my hands up you know he did get a lot of shit last year Simon says 170 million for Rogers is insane is it though is it really I saw a very interesting piece this morning that revenues in football in the last six years have gone up by a huge amount so revenue in football has gone up by a huge percentage especially for the champions league clubs so people are saying 117 million pounds is a lot of money who's feeding that is that mates of the glazers if your revenue five years ago has gone up by you know let's let's keep it simple if your revenue per year is 100 million pounds profit and five years later it's 175 million pounds profit, you've had a massive increase in revenue in five years.

34:42Well, surely player prices go up, wages go up. So revenue is not profit. I know, I rock, but it really doesn't matter. The point is, if your revenue is going up or your profit's going up, use whatever bloody word you like, you've been a bit pedantic. The point is, football earnings in the last five years have gone up massively. Now, you're right, profit probably hasn't gone up, but the profit, if it matches it means that wages are going up and transfers are going up so i think logically a player that was worth 80 million pounds five years ago probably is 110 now you know declan rice went for 106 10 years ago he probably goes for 50 or 60 so people go 117 million pounds is too much jack greelish left villa for 100 million pounds four years ago they these prices do go up and every...

35:38I remember Alan Shearer going to Newcastle for 15 million and people went, it's ridiculous. Imagine what those people would have said if Alan Shearer went for 100 million. But prices will go up. You know, they're not going to stay the same. I'd like to see Heaven as a starting centre-back. I really like Heaven, Simon. The root cause is debt. If we wipe that out, 1.5 billion in Glazer's debt, we would have been active. Look, PMA, I think what Andy Mitten says is absolutely spot on. Man United, look, Morgan Rodgers, I didn't want Morgan Rodgers. I agree with all you lot. I did not want Morgan Rodgers.

36:15We spoke about him a lot over the summer. Didn't want him. Good player. Where does he fit in at Man United? For me, he's a number 10. We play a 4-3-3. I don't think he's a winger. Xabi Alonso does what Amrim did. He plays with two number 10s. Morgan Rodgers in that team, perfect. Perfect. so Morgan Rodgers to Chelsea makes a lot of sense I don't think Morgan Rodgers to Arsenal makes a lot of sense because they only play with one number 10 as well so I think he's gone to the right club but I didn't want Morgan Rodgers I agree with you Wilcox loves Morgan Rodgers and Michael Carrick loved Morgan Rodgers and they would have done a deal with Villa if they could have got the price down they're about 40 million pounds off from what we could pay we would have been looking at around 70 to 80 million pounds miles off what we could afford but we did want morgan rogers we did want elliot anderson and we did want matthews fernandez i remember barada saying that they planned for the europa league we need contingencies but that statement lowered standards it's sad uh it said that sixth or seventh was good enough there were times when third was a disaster says emily derry players over 100 million last season all flopped says uh jahid is that a reason not to buy players then because some of them flopped mate give me 100 million pounds i'll buy i'll buy man united a dead cert absolutely dead well i can't now they're all gone but he gave me 100 million pounds i would have bought as a dead cert his name was tonali if we're going if we were to get benetius jr how much do you really think we can get him for i mean ramen i'll believe it when i see it The World Cup Championship will be crowned this week, and you can trade the tourney through the finals on Kalshi, America's number one prediction market platform.

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39:23or Man United have bought Cole Palmer or Man United have gone out and bought Caicedo or Enzo Fernandez. I bloody love it. I've got no problem spending£100 million on a player if it's the right player. All I want is to get plan A targets. I don't care how much they cost. I just want to get the best player. Yeah, they get our hopes up by releasing news about we want these players when they have no intention of paying uh but this time bounce back was quick thank god says seth us not affording these players is one reason why the rexham game was like it was says ray carl brown amori uh look i think in relation to the rexham game ray it's a pre-season game i wouldn't read too much into it however i think we're massively reliant on bruno fernandez shock horror and um i think without bruno there's not a lot going on in that team um I think Bruno has to be the key player next season and he will be the player that gets us in the Champions League again.

40:24That whole team is built around Bruno. There's not a lot going on with that Bruno in that team. And also, I don't think there's a lot of talent in that team when you don't have Bruno, Maynou, Casemiro, Kunja, even Sesko because he's a finisher. I don't think there's a lot going on in that team without the players that aren't there at the moment I mean look, Harry Maguire is a steady centre-back but he's an ageing centre-back Santos to be fair is new Mbermos just seems to struggle under Carrick at the moment I'm hoping that's going to get better but we don't have a starting XI we certainly don't have depth and I think when you play a game like Wrexham you just see we don't have a lot of depth we desperately do rely on And it's not breaking news, is it?

41:14Without Casemiro and Maguire and Bruno between January and May, I don't think we'd have been anywhere near top four. So Casemiro is not there anymore. That job to replace him goes on. Hopefully Tillemans and Santos and whoever else comes in can do that. Bruno wasn't there. And, you know, in fairness, Harry Maguire did start to struggle a little bit at the end of the season as well. So I think we need a Martinez is another player that we miss as well. I think some of the fans would rather overpay for stinkers because you can overpay for players who are worth under 50 million rather than pay a big amount for elite player.

41:49It's a huge difference as Shamal. Emily Derry says, this ownership doesn't want to compete. They want to profit. And our board is learning the wrong lessons from past mistakes led by ownership policy and are not that competent in addition to that. I think they are fixated, Emily, on salon value, which is a very dangerous thing to implement into a Manchester United board philosophy. I've heard it a few times We seem a bit obsessed with sell-on value But we've never been good at that And also, what are the ingredients of sell-on value? So, let's take Santos I spend£48 million on Santos For there to be sell-on value He needs to go for at least£65 million How does he become a£65 million player?

42:31Well, he needs to play consistently well In a good Man United side How do you achieve that? Well, nobody's really done that apart from Bruno in the last five years. So to create salon value, there has to be an increase in value. And to be an increase in value, the player has to come in and be good. And that is normally helped by being in a good team. And we've not been able to achieve that. So I think this salon value thing, and also if they do come in and do well, I don't want to sell them anyway. So I don't like this salon value thing. One, it's hard to achieve. And if you do achieve it, you want to keep them because we don't have enough players to be selling good players.

43:12So the Salon Value thing is a bit strange to me because if you're Man City, you'll benefit from Salon Value. Look at Sardino. Absolute scam, that is, but they're going to make a lot of profit on him. We're a long way off being a Man City where you've got decent players on your bench that you can sell for£70 million. Many years off, probably. Start, bench, sell, AirPods, tripods or Lukas Podolsky. We're not doing that, Eddie, but if you want to get involved in the chat what better way to start the documentary by signing venetius jr doubt our incompetent club will think like that is their chance you think i mean look i think panos when the amazon deal was done i think a lot of us hoped that that might be the case there might be a big marquee signing i must admit the suggestion is that there won't be a marquee signing and um it'll just be another 50 million pound player coming in but look the day united gone by a Venetius Junior is the day we start acting like a big club again and I would applaud it because it would be tearing up this scary approach that we seem to be following but look, never say never in this transfer window.

44:17I know United look unlikely to join in but there are some incredible deals being done and there will be more incredible deals done in the next coming days and weeks. If Man United went and bought a Venetius Junior I would stand up and applaud them for a week. I think it would be incredible but I just can't see us doing it. Luke Shaw couldn't shout to heaven to tighten up says Emily Derry exactly I know it's only the first pre-season game but my god Luke Shaw twice a week in Champions League is going to be scary says Arshan yeah I think I think I've done that one about that Embermo and Ahmad were done after AFCON I am expecting more this season if we receive 60 million I'd sell Ahmad I don't think he ever becomes world class says Gogo is there a price that I would sell Ahmad at considering I'm on the side of the fence where I like Ahmad There was a lot of shit against Ahmad last season He got a lot of, you know, criticism He was very bad from Christmas until May If we're being completely honest Is there a price what I'd sell May knew?

45:15Oh, I think everyone's got a price As I said, last summer I'd have sold Bruno for 90 If he was going to play in the midfield If we're keeping him as a 10, I'd never sell him So everyone's got a price For me, if we could get 70 for Ahmad, I'd sell I'd sell because I could reinvest that I've got Invermo on the right I've got Kunya I've got Dorgue who can play on the right I've got Rashford still at the club um you know one of Ahmad and Invermo are going to spend time on the bench so if I can get 70 million pounds for one of my bench wingers I can reinvest that so I would sell Ahmad for 70 but no one's going to give a 70 but I would I would sell Ahmad because I do believe that in this market the ability to sell helps you buy and we've seen that with Chelsea and we've seen it with Newcastle like the ability to sell helps you to buy in this window Would Vinicius Junior not be another Di Maria?

46:17Having a laugh Simon? Having a laugh? Simple Simon? What's going on there? Sidekick Simon Rubbish opinion that Embermo and Ahmad we're done after afcon i've done that one uh why haven't we heard much about strikers if zerkzy goes we're left with only sesco also when are we going to start selling deadwood to buy we still need three or four maybe signings if we want to compete says jack well we're not heard about strikers because zerkzy's here i think they're hoping for a pre-season perlowe from zerkzy so they can say we don't need anyone uh i mean mark amad for us is equivalent to madawake for chelsea curtis jones and kwanzaa for liverpool we just don't sell those type of players so sunrises army Revenue, profit, success And intran Exactly Linked says it's me One missing I blame PSG, the name I'll transfer Ruin the market, says Carlo Is Rodgers scoring and assisting Says Simon And also the volume Of players we've bought over the last decade But lost in value has to be studied I think two or three increased, the rest lost This is a big problem, says Smoggy well if you buy Anthony for 90 million euros and you put him on 100 and something grand a week there's nowhere to go with that there's literally nowhere to go like it's very unlikely he's going to be the world's best winger if you scout him properly so you're never going to sell him for a profit and also if there's any element of flop and you need to move him on no one's going to give you that money or that wage that's where United went wrong in the past um I think that what Chelsea have done with Morgan Rodgers is go he's a Premier League proven England international who knows the league really really well he's not going to flop completely and we're not looking to sell him on we're looking him at him to be at the club for the next seven years and if he replicates the last three at Villa that's going to improve us as a team so it's a long-term signing when you buy Sancho from Dortmund or Anthony from Ajax and you've got no you know they're young players that you need to develop um and they've got no track record in that league you've got a lot of work to do there so look i think spurs buying matthias fernandez and tonali the chances of them flopping incredibly badly are unlikely because they they've proven themselves in the league they might not they might not take spurs to the champions league but i don't think they're going to be bad signings for them same with elliot anderson to man city i don't I don't think he's going to flop.

48:45He might not be as good as Rodri, but I think for the next few years, Rodgers at Chelsea and Anderson at City and Tonali at Spurs, they're not going to flop because they've proved themselves in this league and they know it. I mean, they might not be Declan Rice standard, but they're not going to flop completely. So you get that quality over the next few years.

49:07Duke Studios says, the problem is our squad's not worth anything. People forget, Sir Jim Radcliffe said in his interview with Neville, that the days of big spending were over. This is the plan they've chosen for better or worse as Smoggy. Our team is underdeveloped in comparison to the other big six, so they can spend on one or two players in considering as we need several players. I do agree with that. I do agree with that, Duke Studio. United do need volume, but where I don't agree with people is they're saying, well, we can't buy a£100 million player because we don't need one player, we need three, so we've got to get volume in.

49:40Even when we've got volume in, we won't spend£100 million pounds on a player it's not the model so you can justify it in your mind that we're buying quantity before we start buying the star players but that's not the model anyway the gone are the days of buying big players so jim said it himself so we're just never going to be that club i don't think and also maybe i'm old maybe i'm old school but i've never seen a team be successful with this tactic i've never seen a team win titles consistently being cheap less than one the league as a one-off, they're now in League One. Do you want to win the league and then fall off?

50:14I don't want to win the league and fall off. I want to win the league and stay. Every team that wins the league and stays spends a lot of money on players. I've never seen a team do it this way. Rules are there to be broken. Let's wait and see. It's like you said before, any of us brought into the club will never be... I've done that one from Rem. Thank you. Okay, look, bit of a longer show this morning, but we are... What are we doing? We'll cut final. World Cup final tonight So we're live at 8 o 'clock On That's Football For the World Cup final Which means it'll be A 7 o 'clock show On the United stand As I said No talks with Scott Directly I think United are Pondering Scott Internally But no talks with Bournemouth or Scott Externally Because he hasn't Made his decision yet Talks with Kone Continue Chelsea could swoop There And I would expect Kone to advance very, very quickly one way or another in the next week or two.

51:12So let's see what happens. Thank you so much for tuning in this morning. Really appreciate it. Sorry I was a little bit late than normal. I didn't actually tell you last night, so that's bad by me. Stay safe. I'll speak to you later on. Thanks for watching.

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