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0:32Hello everybody, good morning, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge with your latest Manchester United news, transfer news, lots to delve into. Could Oli Watkins be heading towards Manchester United a year after? Potentially we should have signed him and Sesko. Why do we always do it in halves? Also, could Xerxi be heading out the door? What is the latest with Belaba? We've got some more this morning from Romano about Kone, about Danilo and about um i believe we'll talk about that as well a few other bits i want to talk about too and also there was um i read the comments i think you should do that as a as a creator always read your comments um because then you can delete the ones you don't like no you delete the abuse but um there is a comment that was actually very anti what i said last night that i want to bring into the show almost like a new section i might try and take a comment or two from every show for the next show so we'll talk about that a little bit later as well uh basically some people still having a problem with what I said last night, that this is the worst transfer window I think we've had in years.

1:32You are defending different shades of shit, by the way, if you think two years ago was worse or four years ago. The reality is I can't remember the last good transfer window we had. So you're arguing about different shades of shit, in my opinion. But look, let's get into the news. Would you take Oli Watkins at Manchester United? This is going to be the first story this morning um i do also think that um you know the one one thing i did read this morning and i will find the account who did it in a little bit um what i was talking about last night about michael carrot coming out after matches saying we're heading in the right direction everything's positive and people defending him and saying well what do you want him to say listen to what deserve he said yesterday um we've made some good signings but we now really need to focus on the attack.

2:20You know, this is what I'm talking about. You can have an opinion by all means, but don't dismiss somebody's opinion as negativity just because you're blind to the truth. De Zerbi has had an incredible summer transfer window. Van Heek, Tonali, Mateus Fernandes, these are amazing signings for a team that finished fourth from bottom. And he sat there in public saying, I want strikers now because he's in a position of power. They begged him to go and take that job to keep them up. And he said, I don't want it. And then they said, well, we'll give you power in the summer if you take it. And he did.

2:53And now he's got the power. And now he can sit there in press conferences and say, now I want this. You know, he's just had Tonali and Mateus Fernandes bought for him and he's going, well, it's not good enough. I want strikers now. And we've got a manager who's not even had the midfield rebuilt and he's going, we're heading in the right direction. That's what people talk about. That's what people are talking about when we talk about a manager that drives the standards of the football club. We've got a manager that's submissive to an ownership that's abysmal that that's my problem with it i'm not anti what uh i'm not um anti carrick i'm just saying like i don't think he puts the right things out um just because he's a nice guy doesn't mean he's a great manager does he would you sign watkins there we go let me know in the chat there so look this coming out in the last well i i sort of saw it this morning i think it's been around for the last 24 hours so um fenerbahce have been looking at Watkins and had almost done an agreement apparently, a three-year deal.

3:48They're looking to get him for about£25 million. Villa want more like£35 million. And in the last sort of 24 hours, it's been reported that Man United and Arsenal are both interested in Watkins with Xerxes attracting interest from Italy again. and United are exploring other options. And if Xerxes was to lead, the club are expected to make an approach for Watkins. I mean, what I would say here straight away is, why are we a sell-to-buy club? Why are we sat there going, Joshua, I know you're playing with Mason Mount at Luke Shaw at the moment and having a great time, like you're on Bloody Holiday.

4:32They're like three kids in a swimming pool playing around. When you're finished, can you come and dry off and let's have a chat about what we're doing for dinner. Piss off, I'm playing with my mates. Well, when you've got a minute, can we have a chat? So don't get angry. Go and get him an ice cream. Don't get angry. We're thinking you might want to go back to Italy. You don't. Okay, go back and play with your friends. You do? Oh, good. Well, reluctantly, we would like you to go to Italy and then we're going to go and buy Watkins. This is just not how you behave as a football club. What do you mean?

5:07if Xerxes decides to leave, we'll move for Watkins. It's the wrong way round. It's the wrong way round. We should be going and getting the player we want so that the player we need to leave realises he's not wanted. And I don't understand why, at the end of last season, Michael Carrick and Jason Wilcox didn't sit Xerxes in a room and say, we're going to sell you. So that he's got all of June for his agent to find him a club. And now we're sat here nearly in August going, if Xerxi moves, we might move for Watkins. It should be the other way around. And that's what worries me about United and the striker.

5:42Realistically, I actually remember a year ago when we were talking about Watkins to United and United did make a move. United do like Watkins, whether you like it or not, they do. They made a move before they even moved for Xerxi and he was too expensive. So United definitely like Watkins, whether you do or not. What we should have done last summer is by both we should have bought Watkins and Sesco last summer because actually when you look across the season there were times where Watkins as a striker would have been very useful when Sesco was injured or settling in so we should have bought both and people go we fall into the cheapskate either or but we should have gone for both really when you when you look at it because I would like to have Watkins now with Sesco for next season with Champions League football I think that would be a really good duet um and I and I'd be very very happy with that this is exactly the sort of experienced Premier League backup striker that Man United need.

6:40And look, Diz says, I don't think he's very good. Well, you know, I disagree. I think he'd be absolutely perfect for what United need in a market that's not glaringly obvious. I mean, I wouldn't go for Ivan Toni. Welbeck's too old. I think Ollie Watkins would give us two or three years, and then hopefully something's coming through in the youth team that's decent. I mean, we're crying out for a young striker at Man United to come through the youth. I don't know whether there is anybody. But no, I wouldn't mind this deal at all. And I think Watkins would like to do it himself. He wanted to go to Arsenal before.

7:12But the big barrier here is quite clearly moving Xerxes on. And I saw this from Simon Stone this morning and, you know, it took my breath away. Any potential exit for Xerxes will likely be a loan move back to Italy. a loan move you've got people you know you've got average players in the premier league being sold for 50 million quid and the best we can hope for is a loan move for a striker that i actually think has value why would an italian club not give us 25 million for xerxi i mean why we why i mean that's the one player i actually thought we might get some money for and we're loaning i I mean, if Man United turned up on the bloody deck of the Titanic as it went down and had a bag full of life rafts, they wouldn't be able to sell it to any of the passengers, even though it would save their lives.

8:11We'd somehow fuck the deal up. It's ridiculous. We just can't sell. We cannot sell. And the intelligent fans out there have figured this out. It's not necessarily about who we're buying this summer. is the fact that we all know that that team needs huge improvement and we can't generate a pound from sales. It's embarrassing. In fact, the only player that looks like we might make a few million on is Vitek, who basic value is because he was on loan at Bristol City. It's not anything we've done. You know, the players that Man United sell are actually being developed. You know, Bristol City developed Vitek, not Man United.

8:50So, look, would I bring Watkins in for Xerxes every day of the bloody week? Yes, I would. But I don't think we'll be able to do it because we would need to sell Xerxes to generate the funds to bring Watkins in. And we're talking about loaning again. And I genuinely do think it's a massive problem. And I don't know how we solve this. It's bloody ridiculous. But, yeah, look, recruitment at United needs a major overhaul. But if you can't sell, you're going to really struggle. And this is not unique to Manchester United. This is something that you would have a problem with at Crystal Palace, at Everton.

9:30If you can't sell players, you're always going to struggle, in my opinion. So look, I would sign Watkins. I agree with 75 % of you. But I've been saying this for weeks. We're really going to struggle. We're really going to struggle if we can't sell players. And we can't sell players, end of the day. where all we're doing this summer is repackaging past failures you know i look at united on friday night and you know the barrage of people going on about positivity and can i just say by the way a few people have dropped in the comments this youtuber was slagging you off because about what you said about rosenberg this youtuber was slagging you but i i don't watch any other youtubers for a start and that's not arrogance i never have you know that and if you know if most of them wouldn't have a bloody career if it wasn't for the united stand you know they use the same thumbnails they use the same headlines and then you know they sort of kick the boot on the thing that's probably given them an avenue of opportunity so you know i i haven't got no time or respect for these people anyway uh the only people i have time and respect for is is you and you're the ones who who make this what it is so i don't get involved in that nando's beef or whatever.

10:40No, that's that. Yeah. Um, I just, I just, I just, I don't have time for any of that. I have got time for your comments though. And I've got some good comments from you, which I will always react to, but going back to that Rosenberg result on Friday, mate, I don't need to react to other people. Cause you, a few of you have had a go at me. I still sit here. I'd had a few beers. I was on holiday. I'd had a few beers on Friday. I was watching it at the hotel pool bar. I admit that I said it when I did the video, it's going to upset a few people but guess what i don't do content to make people like me i do content for authenticity and sometimes when you put yourself in that avenue you say things that will make you unpopular i've been doing it for 10 years and sometimes you say things that people love you for right most of these slot before they do a video they're mapping it out oh will that make me popular will that make me popular oh will that make me popular with the club and the fans right tell me this about the game against Rosenberg were we repackaging shit were we polishing a turd yes you got Harry Maguire back at captain I've seen that before I know it's only because Bruno is not there but I've seen Harry Maguire there telling players to take photographs with fans and you know giving his all he's 33 we should have moved on from Maguire I like Maguire but we should have moved on from Maguire Luke Shaw at left back we should have moved on from Luke Shaw at left back Mason Mount playing in the midfield we should have moved on we never should have brought him so the only things that are exciting from that game is anything that might be part of our future so Santos looked okay Yoru at right back I don't think it's going to work but him playing is good um you know Lacey's goal was very good anything to do with Dorgou or Mbema or young players positive but there's a lot of repackaging of the same old shit going on at United and pretending that we don't need to do stuff will we buy a left back or will we stick with Luke Shaw will we buy a centre back or will we stick with Maguire?

12:32Will we buy a midfielder or will we stick with Mount? These are things that need questioning. Now is the time to question it before the end of August when it was too late. Just a couple of things on centre-backs before I talk about the midfield situation. Thanks for everyone who's tuning in this morning. Don't forget to get your comments in because you might feature on the 8 o 'clock show tonight. So Andy Mitton this morning has had a couple of updates around the Martinez and De Litt issues. De Litt is expected to not be back until the autumn, which I think is a massive blow um so Mangunati are going to take their time with the Litz he has been out for nearly a year and the word autumn was mentioned that's a blow um I you know the autumn I'm trying to figure out my seasons here but um I believe the summer I believe the autumn starts in September UK because winter is December and it's three months a season so well yeah so So autumn would be September.

13:29There's an international break. So he'd probably be back in October. It's not miles away, but it's a long, that's a long break that is from football. And he's not under 25 anymore. So look, I think De Ligt has been a very good signing for us. And this is a very unfortunate injury. I don't even class De Ligt's injury as an injury, even though it is. It's not like pulling your hamstring again or doing your cruciate ligament or having another calf strain. It's a one. Rashford had it. Van Persie had it. It's a very unlucky injury and hopefully he can get back. But on a more positive update, also Andy Mitten saying that Martinez is not a concern for Manchester United and should be back for the start of the season.

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14:46you know i don't know whether that's just been put out because of that i don't know um martinez is on holiday at the moment if he had a bad injury he'd be back at Carrington for assessment that didn't happen so the fact that he's gone off on holiday United would never let that happen if there was a concern about him being out for two months so I think that the fact that Martinez left the World Cup and went on holiday shows you that it's not anything too serious obviously he'll be assessed when he comes back in a couple of weeks and should be back for the start of the season which is a positive because Martinez got named in the World Cup team of the season so good stuff there.

15:23Right, let's talk about the midfield. Then I'm going to get into some of the super chats that we've got, and then we'll delve into a few other bits as well. So Fabrizio Romano, in his latest video, has provided an update in relation to Man United's summer transfer window pursuit in the midfield. Now, some of this might sound a little bit repetitive. If you watched my video yesterday about the Chumini story and you watched the Tocock show last night. Obviously, we've had very good info this summer. I don't want to upset people, but we have. I can't help that. And some of what Romano is saying, you'll have heard from us before, but some of it is new, to be fair.

15:59So he was talking specifically about Danilo, about Kone and about Balaba. Now, we've always said Kone talks, and when we were first on that, Kone talks started ages ago, but they're snoozing on it. They won't proceed to do a deal with Roma. And Balaba, United aren't in talks with and he's way down the list. That's our information. This is what Romano had to say. This is Romano now. So Romano has basically said, there are strands to the transfers. You will hear United get linked to a player and very little is happening. You'll hear United get linked to a player and talks have taken place. and you'll hear United get linked to a player and it's just the player's side trying to, you know, get a move to United.

16:46So basically what he said is, is that Danilo has been offered to Man United, but United haven't taken up any interest in him. On Kone, United have taken place, talks have taken place. So basically what Romano is saying is, you'll have a Danilo story and a Kone story, both available, both could sign for United, but United have only held talks with Kone. So Danilo would be down here and Kone would be up here. But even though Kone is up here, United haven't proceeded to do any talks with Roma yet because they're still probably thinking about what they want to do in the midfield. I don't know why we're snoozing.

17:23We'll come back on that. So you've got Danilo right down here. You've got Kone right up here because we have held talks with him. And you've got Balaba. And what he said about Balaba is, look, Balaba's side are pushing for a move to Manchester United, but Man United aren't pushing for the Labour. He's down the list at the moment. So that's where we are on that. And it's very interesting because when I was on holiday a couple of days ago, there was people talking about the Labour and you can only deliver the news. And what I would say is if one of our sources came forward and said, I've got an exclusive for you, Mark.

17:58United are going for the Labour. I wouldn't come on here and go, they're not in talks with the Labour, by the way. when we got that scoop on DeLapp 18 months ago, I told you it and I said, I don't want United to do this, but it's a news show. They are going for him. So if I heard anything from anybody that we were going for Belaber, I would say, I don't think we should do it, but we are going to do it. And that maybe, maybe, maybe could happen in a month's time, but it's not happening at the moment. But what I did say on holiday is, why is it there are certain United accounts on a daily basis talking about the Labour.

18:32Why is it that certain news outlets are talking about the Labour? Alex Crook, Talk Sport, very close connections with Brighton, talking about the Labour, when I know for a fact we're not in talks with Labour. I know we're not, and a lot of the top journalists know we're not, and United aren't. And then it came out, didn't it? What did I say when I was in Spain? I said, to me, five strands of transfer, this is the player's agent trying to generate a move out at Brighton by using Manchester United. And lo and behold, about three hours later, it came out from credible journalists that United are not in for Belaber.

19:10This is all being pushed by his agents. So that's what's happening with Belaber. The noise is coming from, and who's to say they're not getting in contact with United aggregators and saying, push the story, push the story. So there is nothing with Belaber at the moment. He is on United's list, but he's way down the list. and to be honest with you if we end up signing him I know it will make some of you happy I think some of us would be disgusted because we know he's down the list so Tillemans was down the list Santos was down the list and then Belabe was down the list it's an absolute embarrassment and also how hard is it to sign a player that's begging to sign for you it's not it's not great transfer work by the club is it to go down the list and pick a player that's so bloody desperate to sign for you maybe he should have played well last season but then he probably would have signed for a better club.

19:58So I think in relation to the midfield, the one and only that stands out as a firm favourite with United is Kone, who we have spoken to, who will sign for United, but we are stalling on that. And we'll be stalling on that, I think, because we're still heading the clouds. And again, this is just another theory. I don't know this for true, but if Kone is there, it's a reasonable price, willing to sign for United and we've sorted our midfield for the summer and United won't proceed from talks with the player to talks with Roma and there's a jeopardy that we could miss out because of the clubs want him why are United delaying?

20:40It could be because we've got a sell to buy but there's no midfielder to sell so I don't think that makes any sense it could be because we're uncertain on Kone there was one person in United's boardroom who is uncertain on Kone because they like to sign price prospects and not 25-year-olds. I figured that one out. I can't name it. It's not Carrick. But I think it's actually the third option. I think United still think that, well, yeah, Brixton's right. They're weighing up their options, which is not an excuse. We've had 12 months to weigh up our options. Why are we figuring things out in late July is a fair response.

21:24But I actually think we're still thinking we can pull off another, what I would call a Hail Mary, if you're an NFL fan, or a punt, you know, or a Hollywood pass to coin a Bruno phase. I think we're looking for that amazing left field, wow, signing. And what would you do? What would you do? Would you take the Kone deal and just get on with the rest of the window and say that's our midfield for next season or would you go no let's keep hanging around waiting for this Hollywood pass that we might make for somebody and we might we might miss out on Kone um I don't know what Hollywood pass midfield you're gonna make in late July I don't know um Alex Scott's price isn't gonna come down

22:20look they like Chumini there is no doubt about that and a couple of people have mentioned it in the chat but the ingredients for that deal are as exciting as they are left you know unlikely he wants to stay at Real Madrid Mourinho likes him at Real Madrid and he has a huge huge pay increase at Real Madrid. If Real Madrid want to sell him, then potentially United could jump in. But where does the money come from for that when we've contradicted ourselves by saying we won't pay it? So maybe we're hanging around for that. But I mean, that is a hell of a Hail Mary. To get Chumini in the next five weeks is a huge risk.

23:08It really is. So, look, personally, is Chiumini good enough to wait and hope for? I think he's good. I don't think he's as good as some people think. I think he's good, but I don't think he's like, I wouldn't say he's a world-class midfielder. I'd say he's a top-class midfielder. I like him, but I don't think it's worth waiting for. I think get the midfield sorted. and I wish we were going for Edmiter but I don't think we are United might be delaying on the third midfielder because they want a player reveal on the first game at Old Trafford says Eric could be to do with the Amazon documentary Eric yeah you're right Dara says is the wage structure and transfer fee limit of 60 million not just an admission they don't even trust themselves to get it right says Dara I think there is a lack of trust in that boardroom you know what we get fed out is there's a lot of disagreements which is good but a bunch of disagreeing idiots is not as competent as a bunch of disagreeing geniuses um and you know i think emily derry has said it plenty of times to steal the coin uh to coin the phrase um mangan i'd have had 12 months to prepare for this midfield rebuild they've certainly had six months of knowing casimiro was going to be leaving.

24:34I think this midfield rebuild is embarrassing with the time we've had to prepare for it. I fully expect, I fully accept that sometimes in a summer transfer window, your star player can say, I'm leaving and you weren't expecting it. You could get a bad injury at a World Cup and you weren't expecting it and you're left in the middle of the window having to react. We've been in a fortuitous position where we knew about this and we haven't done anything about it. and I'll always go back to Liverpool. Endo, Gravenberg, Alexi McAllister and Sir Bozlai in one summer transfer window. Liverpool had done it by now.

25:11Most pathetic window ever. Missed out on every top target. Nine months spent briefing about and got a bench warmer and a player with three years left max as beyond P. I do wonder if clubs around Euro have zero respect for United. For example, Barca wanted Rashford for less than 25, but because we're desperate, it's because we're desperate to sell us, Eric. when are we going to get this third midfielder feel like it's all gone very slow says rich i was very shocked by last week i actually thought i might have booked a holiday at a time where it was going to get busy i couldn't have booked a better week to be honest we need to hire someone who has the my message is don't well yeah go away and enjoy your holidays something might pop up not like that on your phone but don't hold your breath uh we need to hire someone who has the ability uh of rinsing other clubs to pay more for our players instead it's the other way around maybe someone from chelsea as radcliffe has an obsession with them says razzler well this is the problem when you bring barrada in and wilcox in and favell in they've got no experience of like you say rinsing other clubs for sales have they um i've got something to say where's this big summer everyone spoke of it's nonsense i'm 39 so i can appreciate your viewpoint mark thank you very much is cod fangler um yeah this big massive summer that man united were going to have but didn't david ornstein predicts that um romano yeah i don't think they're on the payroll but i think they just predicted what many of us predicted i was very look i ain't gonna slag off those people anyway but i was very optimistic in january in june i couldn't see how we weren't gonna have a big summer transfer window you know carrick's inexperienced his coaching staff has got you Carrick's coaching staff, Johnny Evans, never been a coach, Jonathan Woodgate, Steve Holland worked with Southgate for eight years and Carrick.

26:56It's a really inexperienced coaching setup. If they lose three games in a row badly, that dressing room will turn on them, literally turn on them. So you've got a very inexperienced coaching staff that when the going gets tough, the players will look at them and go, we never should have given them the job. And then they haven't helped him out with signings. it's a recipe for disaster. Carrick's going to have to win a lot of games this season like he did from January to May. How come the academy has clicked? Patterns of play but the first team has zero says Tib. I hope Amas plays over short. Never happened though says JSG.

27:32United can't sell water in a desert says Mad. Another graveyard shift signing I wouldn't bother says Wesley. Xerxes is a decent player and would start for a lot of Premier League teams. Lone move. If this was City or Chelsea they'd get£30 million for him. g-mag this is what i'm talking about if xerxi was at chelsea he'd be going back to italy for 40 million if xerxi was at man city they'd be selling him to brighton for 50 absolutely spot on no no doubt about it at all um that is exactly what we're talking about that is exactly what would happen and and that's what you know you can't moan about united not being able to sell mason now because no one's going to do it but you can um do that uh little update from sam c so man united wants another midfielder uh and i want a left back um lewis hall is a target and united wouldn't target players if they didn't think they didn't want to move to old trafford lewis hall uh sam c says lewis hall would prefer to stay in the premier league if possible if he is to make a move this summer yeah look i think i think i think it originates from andy mitton um i would describe andy mitton as when it comes to transfers as you know hit and miss like a lot of people um he's not david ornstein he's not fabrizio romano He does have good connections, but it's not always correct.

29:04The Lewis Hall story is, again, it's a bit like fly away, Peter, fly away, Paul. Tomorrow it's going to be Belabor and Tuesday it's going to be Chumini. I feel like the Lewis Hall story just keeps, it's almost at the point of boredom with Lewis Hall. It's why I didn't want to put it into the show at the start. the Watkins story to me is far more interesting. Like that whole story is like a bloody boomerang. It keeps coming back. And all I would say is, you know what? I'm almost crying from tiredness, really. I would love to sign Lewis Hall. I think he is a brilliant left back and I would love him at Man United.

29:49And in many ways, he reminds me of what Luke Shaw should have been and was for a couple of years. really great energy going backwards and forwards. So I would love to sign Lewis Hall. But there is one thing I would say that has just ruined every deal. I'd like to have signed Tenale. I would have liked to sign Mateus Fernandes. I would have liked to sign Diamande. I would like to sign Enmica. There's a lot of Lewis Halls this summer where you go, they're perfect for Manchester United. But we come up against the barrier that we don't build. I would sign Lewis Hall I would sign Diamande I would sign Mateus Fernandes I would sign Tenali I would sign Elliot Anderson and I would say Elliot Anderson reminds me of Lewis Hall just in a different position perfect for Manchester United but I cannot waste any more optimism and excitement on a board that will pull the rug by saying we're not paying that so we will get linked to Lewis Hall no doubt about it and then Man United will say, we're not paying£70 million for him.

30:57He isn't worth£70 million, he's worth£50. But in this market, he's worth£70 because that's the inflation that's there. We won't want to pay£70 million for a left-back. We won't want to do it. And what will happen is, if he puts a transfer request in, which he might, there'll be somebody who steps forward and goes, we will pay£70 million and we will give him£200 ,000 a week. And United will go, see you later. And it'll be another player where Andy Mitton's not wrong and Ben Jacobs wasn't wrong when he said it three months ago. Lewis Hall would like a move to Man United and Man United are interested if he becomes available.

31:31But we will step away when he becomes available and the price is too high. And so it's one of those stories for me. Do I think United would like to sign Lewis Hall? Yes. Do I think that Lewis Hall would be interested in signing for Manchester United? Yes. And 20 years ago, that'd be enough. but in 2026 it's not you know i'd wanting a player and that player being interesting coming to us isn't going to get that deal done it's going to be will we pay and newcastle won't sell cheap so yeah i find the lewis hall story quite boring because it just keeps coming back and you know there are still people out there that think if we're interested we're going to sign him and look we were interested in belabor a year ago david ornstein said talks were taking place we didn't sign him because of the fee um watkins is the right blend of age experience and price says sjw would be a perfect backup alternative for sesco sign him yesterday 10 plus goals easy says sjw uh i've done that one from gmac um welcome to members club gmac thank you for getting your membership in uh will scott from the now which is the band um if you know who the now our big shout out to them buying watkins is great but i only if it doesn't scupper our chances to buy another centre midfielder oh absolutely got to sign another midfielder got to sign another midfielder um thoughts on arsenal planning to buy binny they are already in the process of buying bruno g um if they get venetius gina is already over says rajaf i'm literally going to do a video on that's football because i've not really done much for the last few days so i'll talk about it there um 786 says but but what i would say rajaf is man united used to be able to go and do those deals.

33:11Now we can't. You know, there are people in the fan base who will argue with you when you say United should sign Benicius Jr. They'll go, no, we shouldn't be spending that amount of money. And you put your head in your hands and you go, they say they support Man United and then they slag you off for saying we should sign Benicius Jr. Like that's literally what Man United should be doing. Literally what we should be doing. 786 Farhan says, ignore the positive Reds hate. I've been watching since 2020 and I know you love the club. Sending love. Hope we can still save this window. Thank you, pal. Thanks for your support.

33:47Enchanted Angle says it's becoming more obvious that Ineos' plan was what Spurs have done and they're going after low-hanging fruit to fill up the squad in desperation. Shift Owl says not as bad as Moyes' transfer window, so second worst. I literally said that last night. I think it's the worst window since David Moyes. That was horrific. Transfer window. Absolutely ridiculous. So 12 years ago that. Would you sell Dalit, says Sanil? I mean, Sanil, you can't sell a turd and pretend it's chocolate mousse unless you find an idiot. And an injured Dalit is unsellable. So we can't sell Dalit. And as much as I love conversation, I think we have for the last decade operated at a real level in conversation, which is why I've kept doing it.

34:38I can't spend time talking about selling an injured player because it's not real. It won't happen. Signing of the window would be two to four of the sales teams at Brentford and Brighton. So, Stephen, something tells me it's Beliebus as John. That name has hung around long enough than a bad smell. It's not, it's not, mate. The reason that name is hanging around is because of naive people on X believing that a player that sat on his arse doing nothing for a year is suddenly a midfield destroyer. And also his PR around his agent. I won't worry about Belieber. What type of player do you think Sir Alex Ferguson would buy in today's markets as diva?

35:19Elliot Anderson. I think Sir Alex Ferguson wouldn't work under these circumstances anyway. But I think he would have gone and got Elliot Anderson because I think he would have seen what a lot of his older fans saw. He was a Man United player. I think United probably don't want to rush into a deal, only later to find out Cermini might suddenly become available. I think Bruno would be a good option and one to keep an eye on. This is Razzler. um born red wild red says these owners are a disgrace i've supported the united all my life and i fear i will not see my beloved club return to glory anytime soon so sad um and uh well i i've said this before and i'll say it again anybody who got into bed with the glazers was an enemy of the club whether it's um you know a fun um an investment fund from the usa or sir jim radcliffe I don't know why people ever thought This was going to be a good thing Helping the Glazers stay at Man United Was a crime Whoever did it And Sir Jim Radcliffe committed it And actually I think we're worse in the window now Than we were under the Glazers The Glazers made some very expensive mistakes But Expensive is not a word that we look at now One in, one out Because we're broke This is Strutter Sean says I think we might be doomed And Simon Burke says, Carrick is relaxed, so the board are under pressure not to sign anybody.

36:47With Amrim, he would have been pushing to get the players he wants. Carrick has less charisma. Look, I'll read out this. I'll literally read this out for you. It's something I had ready for the show anyway. So you've got basically De Zerbi, who's had a very good summer transfer window already, saying the target now is to complete the attacking positions. We need another couple of important players for sure. We want the first target, the first level, because we've already have important players. This is, in the last 24 hours, De Zerbe sat there. He's had£200 million of expenditure. Off the top of my head, I might miss somebody, but Tonali,£90 million.

37:37Mateus Fernandes,£80 million. Van Heek,£40 million. so he's had 200 million pounds of investment of course they're going to balance the books with sales they let Vuscovic go Bergvau will go so they'll get some money back that you know ultimately this this tale I'm about to tell you literally rips apart United summer so they spent about 200 million they'll probably get a hundred back at least in sales hello United you're doing nothing but this is a manager who finished fourth from bottom has had 200 million pounds of expenditure they're not in Europe and he's sat there publicly saying we need a couple of more important players and they also need to be really good because we've already got some players that are good but we need better than that you know that's Tottenham's manager basically publicly saying to his board if I need more I need more and yet if that you know we've got Michael Carrick who's had 70 million on not even number one targets.

38:44And he's going, yeah, we're in a good place. We're in a good place. You know, a few weeks to the off, few players to come back. We're in a good place. Everything's moving in the right direction. He should be saying, look, we've brought a couple of good players in, but there's a hell of a lot more work to do. I need more players. You know, I look at last season and we were only playing one game a week. We need a lot more in these last few weeks of the window. That's not negativity. You shouldn't be getting in trouble for saying that. Last season, we were playing, we've had a good start to the window.

39:14I don't agree with that, but he could have said, we've had a good start to the window, but obviously we need a lot more. Last season, we did really well, but we were playing one game a week and we didn't have that many injuries. We're playing a lot more games this summer. We're playing better opposition. Our standards are higher. We need to be more active in the window. And I'd like to see three or four more players come in in the final four weeks. He doesn't say that. He goes, we're moving in the right direction. And this is what I mean. Like, nothing against Carrick, but is that the personality we need at United?

39:46You know, somebody who just never says anything negative. He never says anything negative. Everything is always positive. And it might work. It might work. But we've had a manager like that, and his name was Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, and it all fell apart because... Here's golf legend John Daly. Hell yeah, these wins are piling up faster than my divorces. I only spent on Moto, America's Social Casino. You know I've won a couple of majors. And on Moto, I've won majors, grands, and epic jackpots on their classic Vegas slots with huge, huge bonus rounds. Moto Casino adds new games and awards players free coins every single day.

40:21Grip it and spend it on Moto Casino. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino. Board will prohibit it. No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino. America's Social Casino. It was great when things were going well. In COVID, we were really good. But when it started to go bad, it went really bad. And I just, I don't, look, I think United need, when I look at the great managers, Jose Mourinho, Arsene Wenger, Jurgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola, Sir Alex Ferguson, what do they all have in common? Did they ever sit there and go, when things weren't good enough, hey, it's fine.

41:02Well, you know, I'm absolutely fine with this. That's not good. No, they always wanted better. They always wanted more and they publicly demanded it. I think Man United needs somebody who publicly demands more. That's when the fans feel close to the club. I think the club have done a blinder in putting somebody in place who won't do that. But in the long term, that might make us worse. United are crying out for some leadership in that boardroom or in the coach. And we don't have it. We don't have it. They only talk when things are going well. They don't demand the standards that this football club inherently has had for decades.

41:44And that worries me. And look, you don't have to agree with me. That's absolutely fine. But why is De Zerbe demanding more when he's already had an amazing summer? Because he knows that he needs more. Thank you very much for that, Simon. United done that one as well. OK, I want to bring this comment in. It's a perfect time to do it. So I do read the comments and not the live chat because that disappears afterwards. But if you watch the show later or you come back and there's something you want to write, I always do read them. So I had a comment last night and it caught my eye and I thought I'll bring it into the show.

42:17And actually what we'll probably do is start doing this a little bit more because especially on the eight o 'clock show. So we had this comment last night. This was from Tropical Sailboat. I'm 20 years older than you Mark And I remember when we never needed to buy anyone And we still win trophies You are of a certain age to us Older United supporters You don't need to buy success You are typical of today's society Ageist Well to be 20 years older than me Means you would have seen United win it in 68 And to be 20 years older than me You would have seen us relegated in the 70s I didn't see the 70s So this is apparently um an older fan so he would be in his 60s and he is saying that i and anybody in their 40s or below is a problem of today's society because we think you have to buy success and apparently if you're in your 60s you are a fan that doesn't think you know i'd need to buy success um i mean look i i might be talking out of place here but i pretty much remember man united and correct me if i'm right i think united bought dennis law from torino so dennis law one of the greatest strikers man united have ever had was bought um george best bobby charlton came through the youth setup so yeah i agree with that um we spent a hell of a lot of money where i come into this game is that in the late 80s when Sir Alex Ferguson came in, Man United sustainably spent a shitload of money for a very long time.

43:56Every year, whether it's Mike Phelan, Neil Webb, Steve Bruce, Gary Pallister, they spent, that was a lot of money in the late 80s. I think Gary Pallister cost 2 million for a centre-back in the late 80s, which is a lot of money when you consider Roy Keane broke the british transfer record in 1993 for 3.6 million so i just i don't know maybe we've got some older man united fans tuning in who can leave a comment but is that how you feel as an older man united fan let's say if you're over 55 do you look at the world now and go you don't need to you don't need to spend money to be successful because i think united have always spent money as I said Dennis Law cost money I think even going back to the late 50s and the Busby Babes I think Tommy Taylor prolific striker cost money I think we signed him from Barnsley so I look I can't talk you know I always do this these bloody chuff monsters who start comparing Roy Keane to Rodri and then you look at their passport and they're in their early 20s and you're like you were up your mum's chuff when Roy Keane was playing in his prime how can you compare something you didn't see I can't really come back at this and say you're wrong but what I can say is if you are an older fan and you think that we don't need to spend money to be successful this ain't the history channel this ain't UK gold what you didn't need to do in the 60s and the 70s isn't going to be the same as what you need to do in 2026 and all my life, late 80s all my footballing remember life as a Man United fan, late 80s, 90s, noughties to today, and looking at other people as well, there is no other way of winning the Premier League other than spending money.

45:48There isn't. 17-year-olds are going for millions now. Like, you have to spend money. You have to spend money to be successful at football. And if you're somebody that says you don't have to buy success. We could argue all day, but I absolutely completely disagree with you. You have to buy success in the modern game. And the reason is, if Chelsea and Spurs and Liverpool and Arsenal and Man City are all spending and competing to be successful, and Man United say, we don't think you do, that's why Elliot Anderson's at Man City. That's why Tonali and Mateus Fernandes are at Spurs. That's why Vinicius Junior or Bruno G could be going to Arsenal, you know, all the good players are going to go to the clubs that pay the money and we're going to sit there saying you don't need to buy success.

46:39So where do we get the good players from? If everybody else is buying success and we say we don't need to, how do we get the good players then? How does Elliot Anderson come to us? How does Tonali come to us if we're not going to buy them? Because we certainly haven't got them. So I disagree with that. I think you have to spend money to be successful. I'd love there to be an alternative to that but everything comes at a price and um united seem to be trying to do it in a way that you know man city and arsenal are getting closer and closer to real madrid type wage bills and we're getting closer and closer to everton type wage bills

47:28I think I'm on firm ground here Our rivals in the Premier League Are moving closer and closer to Real Madrid In relation to expenditure and wage bill And we're moving further and further away So if success is linked to expenditure Well are we not moving further and further away from success? Look it's a very definitive statement to say I believe that if you want to be successful, you have to spend. But I believe that. So if our rivals in the Premier League are moving closer and closer to Real Madrid in relation to increased expenditure on wages and transfers, and we're moving deliberately further and further away, are we not therefore moving further and further away from success?

48:13And that's what I think is happening. And I have to scream and shout about that. Well, I'm not screaming and shout. I have I have to say that. I think this plan is going to make us worse based on what I've just said there. You can't watch Arsenal, Man City and others spend more and more and more and more and spend less and less and less and be OK with that. If you think expenditure and success goes hand in hand, I feel we're moving further and further away. Now, some of you have a right to say, well, I think it's the right thing to do, but I don't. So I'm going to keep saying I don't think it is.

48:49If I'm wrong, I ain't going to forget what I've said. But that's my fear. That's my fear. So very good comments. Appreciate it. And we will bring those more and more in because not everybody gets to watch it live. And some people also watch it live and then come back and write a couple of paragraphs. So I will keep looking for those because I think they bring something good later into the show. Jim Jones says Paddy Creran signed for 56 grand in 1963. 63, it's always been a thing, but obviously has multiplied since the advent of the Premier League. Well, I think Trevor Francis was the first million pound player, wasn't he?

49:26Rest in peace from Birmingham City to Forrest for a million under Brian Clough in the late 70s. So obviously prices have increased, but yeah, I mean, God, I mean, as I said, Tommy Taylor from Barnsley, I'm pretty sure Munich. like, Busby Babes, I'm pretty sure we signed him from Barsley for a transfer fee. So transfers have always been going on. It's not a new phenomenon. But ultimately, that's life, isn't it? In competitive sport, you see a player that you think would be good for you. How do you get them? You spend money, you know? And let's not forget, let's not forget here, we're not poor as a football club there is this and i want to say this there is this sort of there is this fan out there going we can't keep spending big money we can't keep paying big wages we can't keep spending big transfer fees well we can no we can't mark we just can't keep doing it the club needs to save money.

50:34Well, we don't. Well, what are you talking about? Well, we bought Roy Keane for£3.6 million and gave him a big wage. We bought Wayne Rooney for£40 million and we gave him a big wage. We bought Bruno Fernandes for£60 million and we gave him a big wage. We've always done this. Our revenue has not gone down, it's gone up. These people saying we can't afford big wages and we can't afford big transfer fees. We've always done it. And as transfer fees and wages have gone up, so has our revenue. It's not like we're earning what we were earning in the year 2000. We're making record revenue every year. It goes up.

51:15So we can afford them, but it's the debt, it's the ownership, it's the lack of ambition, it's the new stadium. That's what hurts us. We can afford it. I mean, Swedish Rumble did an article at the start of the the summer. United could spend £350 million if they wanted to with FFP and PSR and all that bollocks. Do we want to? No. Simon says, that holiday did you good? You look like a Greek god. It was a nice holiday. Thanks very much. I don't know about the Greek god. Kone, what happened to that kid? Says Josh. Wow, it's just another youngster that we bought who's going to be the next big thing and then doesn't end up being the next big thing because we can't develop players.

51:54Amrim said we would suffer Jose declared our season was over in pre-season due to lack of signings Carrick sat there in delusion club legends as Nick P look in relation to Michael Carrick if he wasn't a club legend who'd ran our midfield for a decade and he'd just come in from Everton as an ex-Everton player nobody would be putting up with him as the coach if you think Carrick's whole vibe is an ex-player loyalty you're a fool this guy would not be accepted if he hadn't played for the club that's the whole is the soul shark thing all again the style of football the charisma the experience the coaching setup there's nothing about the carrick appointment that would have people okay with it the whole vibe is is one of our own and that's fine but we've already tried that i hope it works this time uh irish geordie says crap football Crap results, crappy transfers, prices going up, debt increasing, a stadium to fund.

52:57It's all stick and no carrot. Jade, Jade. Oh, mate, you should have saved it for eight o 'clock. I don't know whether you saw it on my Instagram. I literally did an Instagram story. And you probably don't follow me on Instagram at Goldbridge Mark. Let me see if this will work for you. So Jade always does a comment on that football saying, have you tried a Moscow mule? So a Moscow mule is a alcoholic drink. So I was on holiday and they literally had it at one of the restaurants. And I posted it when I was drinking it and said, if you know, you know, Moscow mule. And let me just see if I can get the picture for you.

53:41I had it. It was as nice as I thought it would be.

53:49Let me see if this will work.

54:01I don't know what's wrong with my camera. There you go. Goldbridge and the Moscow Mule. It was absolutely lovely, mate. It was well, well, well worth the wait as well. And I think I had two. I remember you keep saying we should look at Spence when he was playing in the championship what's your take on him now says Ginger Red and when he was in the championship I thought very good I actually would I would swerve that now I would I would swerve that now signings of the window would be two to four of the sales team at Brentford than that okay look we've got nearly 11 ,000 people watching it's great to be back if anything happens today I will obviously react to that we are back at eight o 'clock tonight I'm about to go and drop a video on That's Football about Venetius Jr., which is mainly about Arsenal, but there'll be a bit of a United comparison to that.

54:5174 % of you would sign Ollie Watkins. Harry Gregg was the most expensive goalkeeper in the world, Tesaris Geordie. Yeah, look, I can't speak. I refuse to speak about the 70s and the 60s when I didn't live them. I can only give you information that I think is correct. It was an interesting comment from people who are apparently 20 years older than me saying that you don't need to buy success. I think in 2026 It's the only way to have success Take care everyone Stay safe Might see you in a little bit Certainly 8 o 'clock show tonight Have a great day Brilliant show again Really enjoy it I like the fact that we can debate Openly and honesty and realistically Which doesn't seem to be a thing Even on holiday I had a bit of a time out And I was going around looking around social media And you're right There's a strange pile-on of positivity around United, and I don't get it.

55:45I don't get it. I'll be at the front of the queue to be positive when good things happen. I do not get the positivity at the moment. I think it's strange, almost propaganda strange, if I'm being honest, but there we go. Take care. Stay safe. I'll speak to you on the next one. John Daly here. You know what day it is? Neither do I. I live life daily. That's why I only spend on Moto Casino. Moto's got daily free bonuses, daily tournaments, new slots added daily. And the best part, guaranteed daily jackpots. You can't beat that. So today's the day you're gripping to spend it with me on Moto. America's Social Casino.

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