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1:57Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbriggs. This is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news. What's going on? Is it true? Our Man United really pursuing Lewis Hall and potentially Chumini as well. Interesting stuff coming out from Spain. But we're going to assess this Lewis Hall stuff. I know United have played a game today, but there was stuff going on around it. Ben Jacobs retweeting a tweet from two months ago talking about interest in Lewis Hall. He is the guy that original, the original gangster, Ben Jacobs, was the guy two months ago who said about Lewis Hall and Manchester United.

2:32There's a lot more people saying it now. I've spoken to Ben this afternoon, so I can tell you what he's saying. Also, we will delve into that and a few other things as well. Plus, I'm sorry, I'm going to do it. A tweet that represents something that's really pissed me off today about people going in on a player. and you can talk about your negativity and oh, Goldbridge doesn't like Mason Mount. I've never said I dislike Mason Mount. I just think he's a waste of space. He'll get injured soon like he has done for the last three years. Am I wrong? But I don't like what's being said about this other player and I'm going to jump on that two-footed.

3:07But look, I hope everybody's in a good mood. I'm in a good mood. We're going to start off talking about this Lewis Hall story, but I'm in a good mood. You know, I am in a good mood and I'll tell you why. I didn't want Michael Carrick to be the manager of Man United. I'm very honest about that but when he got the job I said I'd back him and I do back him it's not begrudgingly he's the manager of Man United I don't want to see him getting sacked and today for the first time I saw something that actually made me think there might be something here that I can get behind I actually saw Lacey and I thought you know what if we can get him into the team I don't care whether it's Embermo, Cunha, Ahmad, Rashford if we can get him into the team I'll buy into that I just saw something today that actually made me feel quite positive and excited for a long time.

3:54So credit to Carrick, credit to the player, and hopefully we can do that a little bit more as well. I mean, I liked seeing Thwaites and JJ. It might be too soon, but I think in Lacey, there's a real player there. And I'm older than a lot of youth. And you know what? We don't actually bring that many players through. So I'm happy. I'm excited tonight. I really am. I think we've got, I'm not going to say anything, it's pre-season, but if Carrick's looking to do those sort of things, I ain't going to not back him on stuff like that. I'm really not. I'm really, really, I'm not over optimistic, but tonight I'm like, you know what?

4:32We've got Lenny Oro, we've got Dorgu, we've got Heaven, we've got Maynou, and now we've got Lacey. And I'm like, you know what? If we can start playing some good football with these players, I don't know what there isn't to get behind. I still can't stand the owners and I hate the board, but I will get behind that. I will get behind that. Anyway, let's talk about Lewis Hall because that is a player that I... And you know what? I sort of get a little bit of goosebumps talking about Lacey as well because I'm sort of like, that's what's so rare in the last 14 years that you get that. He used to get every bloody week off four or five players.

5:04The Roonies, the Scholes, the Giggs. So long ago that we've had what United really is all about. And today, for the first time in a long time, I just started to feel, you know, there's a special player there. There is a special player there and a special Man United player. And that's why the youth is so important to United. It really is. Right. Let's talk about Lewis Hall, though, because a lot of people will just tune in for this bit. So an interesting day around Lewis Hall. Some bullshit is out there talking about we've agreed personal terms. We haven't. Some bullshit is out there talking about we've put a bid in or we're in talks with Newcastle.

5:39We're not. what i did is i saw that ben jacobs retweeted his tweet from two months ago and then i saw a load of pretenders the manchester evening news and a couple of other people pretending that they've got inside information on the lewis hall deal and they haven't um so i just messaged ben jacobs at the end of the show and i don't think your mind is saying this and i said why do you retweeted your tweet um and basically what he said is that it's funny because i retweeted it because i can see a lot of people out there talking about United's interest in Hall. And when I said it two months ago, I had a load of people saying it's a load of rubbish.

6:16And now they're saying exactly what I said two months ago. And I said, well, is it moving closer then? Is it moving closer? And he said, look, Man United will try for Lewis Hall if they get any indication. They would love to sign Lewis Hall, but it's early days and they're probably going to need Lewis Hall to put a transfer request so that's basically the story there is no personal terms agreed there is no talks with Newcastle it's a deal Man United would like to do but it's a very difficult deal to do and where I come into it now because I can give you the story and I can carry that on but my opinion is this won't happen this is where I mock the club and I basically ridicule Wilcox and Barada and Sir Jim and say you're completely incompetent you won't get this deal done and I hope that they'll do it because I win if they do.

7:06I do. But I think they're completely and utterly incapable of doing this deal. Just the same as Elliot Anderson, who they also publicly said they were interested in. Mateus Fernandes, they also publicly said they were interested in. So I think Lewis Hall will be filed away with every other deal where we say we're interested and we can't do it. However, however, I think we do need to acknowledge that United are interested. but we also need to acknowledge that it's very difficult now I've had a few people I was doing a video the other day and I said it's very difficult to do this deal because one, United have said they're interested in loads of players and not bought them two, he's a local lad and he supports Newcastle and three, Newcastle don't need to sell and four, the price will be very very big now a load of people ignored all the other points and said he's not a local lad.

8:01He's born in Berkshire. Yeah, all right. He's not a local lad and he is born in Berkshire, but he's a Newcastle fan and his dad and his uncle are both from Newcastle and support Newcastle as well. So, okay, he's not born in Newcastle. I'm not born in Manchester. I'm still a massive Man United fan. I'm sure a lot of you weren't born in Manchester. You're still massive Manchester United fans. Where he's fucking born means nothing. He is a Newcastle fan and so are his dad and uncle. So that could be something. But I think the biggest thing is that Newcastle don't want to sell and to sell him, we'd have to offer something big.

8:42They'd also need a replacement, which they haven't got. So I think my stance is this won't happen. I think I'm not even going to get excited about it It won't happen And I think what's happening is We're getting the usual suspects Who don't know their arse from their elbow And there's nothing else to talk about Going, United would like to try and do this deal United would like to try and do it Oh, United are interested And I'll love this You know what? In no way, shape or form Am I, and probably some of you, saying I don't want Lewis Hall I do want Lewis Hall I think he's a very, very, very good player, but I don't think we're going to sign him.

9:24I just really don't think it's going to happen. And I think everything I've read today is either somebody with no decent track record in transfers and pretends they do, or it's outlets that don't break transfers. I mean, look, even the Manchester Evening News, Man United could test the waters with a bid for Lewis Hall. But if a deal is to happen, it's believed the player will have to make it clear to Newcastle that he wants to move. So you're asking a player to put a transfer request in at a club he supports and his dad supports. I don't I don't I just don't know. I mean, it's not impossible. It's not impossible for that to happen.

10:02you know Wayne Rooney left Everton so it can happen but I just think we need a lot of things to go our way in the last sort of few weeks of this transfer window and I'm not so sure that we're capable of doing that if I'm being completely honest but look we'll have to wait and see but the truth of the matter is Ben Jacobs did break this story two months ago. I've spoken to him this afternoon. And what he's saying is, of course, United are interested and would like to try. But it's a very difficult deal to do. And unfortunately, gone are the days where if Man United are interested in a player, do you get them?

10:47How many players have we been interested in this summer and we've not got? Tenali, Anderson, Fernandes, you know, there's a lot. So I think it's going to take a hell of a lot for Man United to do this. And I'm just, you know, maybe it's a defense mechanism, you know, honestly, it probably is. I don't like to admit it because I don't want to come across as weak, but it's a defense mechanism. I'm just not, I'm just going to say we're not going to get this deal done because I just don't want to get excited about it. But I would love to sign him. I would absolutely love to sign him. Of course I would.

11:18The second thing I wanted to talk about was Chumini. Now, I don't know anything really about this source, but it's Spanish. So basically, a couple of stories this afternoon came in from Spanish outlets saying that basically Jose Mourinho would be open to selling Cermini because he's not compatible with Rodri in the same midfield. The Portuguese manager sees the pairing as an unsuitable fit and would be willing to sanction Chumini's departure. So this came in from Madrid Stahoy and ES Dario. I don't know these people. I don't know. And look, you know, maybe it's true. Maybe it is true. But Chumini is a Mourinho player.

12:13Mourinho sanctioned the new contract I don't and what if Rodri comes in and breaks his leg who's going to hold you midfield then I don't think I didn't believe that Real Madrid or Mourinho want to sell Chumini I really don't but look maybe some of you do I just find it look part of me thinks are we signing Chumini or is Mason Mount going to be our midfielder I think Mason Mount being our midfielder is more likely at the moment I do not believe we're going to sign Chumini and I do not believe we're going to sign Lewis Hall. I certainly, I just don't. I don't. But look, maybe I'll be wrong. Maybe I'll be wrong about that.

12:52And I tell you what, I'd be ecstatically wrong about that. I really, really would. But I just, I think we've been disappointed. And look, it's not me disappointing you. It's not you disappointing yourselves. I really wanted Elliot Anderson. I really wanted Diamande. I really wanted Noosa. I really wanted Stilla. I really wanted Mateus Fernandes. I really wanted Tonali. I just think we've been disappointed so many times this summer. And if somebody wants to be positive and think we're going to sign Lewis Hall and Chiamini, fair fucks, you know, fair play. You know, I ain't going to begrudge somebody being optimistic and excited.

13:29You go and enjoy that. But don't tell us we're negative because I think we've been disappointed so many times this summer and it wasn't me and it wasn't you. It was the club. Like we have been let down more times than a airbed with a leak this summer. It's been really disappointing. So I just can't, I can't do it again. I can't trust the club to do it. And actually, I think I said this on the watch along, it's not a bad situation to be in, is it? I mock the club and their ability to sign Lewis Hall. I laugh at the club and their ability to signed Chiamini. They're incompetent. They won't do it.

14:06And when they don't do it, I'll say, I told you they're incompetent. But if they do do it, I'll be like, oh my gosh, oh my God. So, you know, you can't win. Sorry, you can't lose if you just say, I don't believe it. They're not going to do it. They're shite. And then if they do do it, it's an amazing surprise, isn't it? So that's sort of where I am with it. I'd love us to do it. I really would. I don't think we will. I just haven't got it left in me this summer to get excited about it. I really haven't. And Smoggy says, can we just not speak to his cousin and tap him up a la De Zerbi? Seems OK to do now, says Smoggy.

14:41I don't know whose cousin we're talking to, but apparently De Zerbi did get on the phone to Tonali the day after they stayed up and basically convinced him to sign. the midfielder will be someone out of the blue and cheap so keep an eye on Kessie and Gretzka both on a free so age won't matter just on the midfield by the way I mean obviously I did the match reaction I did the watch along today um there's a lot of people putting lies out there apparently I was slagging the team off at half time when we were losing one nil saying it's unacceptable literally didn't happen go back and watch the watch along and apparently I didn't give any praise to Santos and Mount literally put them in the top three with Lacey um but a few people have posed the question, can Mason Mount be our solution in the midfield?

15:28No. No, he can't because he can't stay fit. You can't have Mason Mount as your fourth midfielder because he can't stay fit. And if he gets injured in September and is out till Christmas, Michael Carrick will be absolutely rinsed. He cannot be the solution. Even if he was playing like prime Kante, you cannot do it because you are basically picking a player that misses half of every season he's been here. So he can't be the midfielder on that. It doesn't matter whether he's shit or amazing. He just can't be it. And I think some people today haven't figured that out because they're like, oh, he played so well today.

16:09Give him some credit. Well, I did. But he can't be the solution because he can't stay fit. It's a massive, massive, massive risk. You can't rely on his injury record. You really can't. I mean, I actually saw some... I actually... I'm going to read this tweet out as well because this is what I mean. Like, I saw this today. Is Santos still written off as a Chelsea reject or an undervalued talent spotted and acquired? Will you answer the question? Because apparently, if you were underwhelmed by Santos, you're now a loser. Well, I don't think you are. I don't think you are. The last time I checked, the season hasn't started yet.

16:50He could be amazing in pre-season and total shit when the season kicks off. I think he's been really good in pre-season, but you're not a hit because you do well in pre-season. like that there is a long way to go for Tillemans and Santos and you know it's the flip-flop nature of people writing players off too soon and people saying they're a hit too soon it's and he's not cheap he's not cheap is he he's not cheap at 50 million pounds I think he looks good but look let's let's let's hold our horses a little bit let's really hold our horses but this was the one I wanted to talk about. I saw this today and it's from an account.

17:35I do, you know, I don't mind them. You know, I think it's a decent account. It's called Frank Era on X, but I have to call this up. I have to call this up because I'm somebody who's very honest about what I think about players. This was the tweet. I don't like it. Don't, I'm not having a pop at this person, but it's more about the replies. The tweet was, love the guy, love his attributes, but can we all see that Dorgoo isn't a left winger? And the replies are horrific. And I'm like, hold on a minute. I love the guy. I love the attributes, but can we all see that Dorgoo isn't a left winger? And I see these sort of tweets and I see these sort of comments and I find them quite cowardly because they're so fucking vague.

18:24It's almost like I love the guy, but he's fucking shit. Well, have the courage of your conviction to say what you really mean, because I don't know what you're saying here. Love the guy, love his attributes. But can we all see that Dogu isn't a left winger? Now, I might be being very unfair to Frank because he might think that he's a left back. But you love him and you love his attributes, but he's not a left winger. So what is he then? because all that does is it and maybe it's deliberate and maybe it's accidental but when you read the comments all it does is just cause a massive pylon of Dorgu because of the lack of clarity and it really annoys me it really annoys me because Dorgu when he first came to the club loads of people called him fucking dog shit loads of people went in on him as a young player but when he was scoring bangers against Arsenal and playing well against Man City no one was saying he wasn't a left winger then but now because he has a bad game in pre-season against Atletico Madrid we're all meant to go he's not a left winger and I'm like I've seen nothing to suggest he's not a left winger I don't think he's a left back I don't think he's a left back at all but what what is it about our fan base that's so fucking impatient like at Christmas and January when he got injured, people were saying he's the next Gareth Bale.

19:52He's come back from injury. He's had a bad game in a preseason game and now he's not a left winger. And I'm like, you know what? As somebody who gets accused of being negative, I am not negative. I'm very consistent. Like, I say what I think and you don't have to agree with it. But I'm getting so pissed off with the treatment of Dorgou. I really am. I'm not saying he's going to be a success at Manchester United, But it seems to me if he has one bad game, you get the whole, I love the guy, but he's shit. Well, you don't love the guy then, do you? If you love the guy, you wouldn't be throwing him under the fucking bus.

20:27What is wrong with him as a left winger? I didn't think he played well today. I thought there was a couple of passes he could have played better. He should have put a cross in earlier to Mbermo. But he's still very young. He's definitely not a left back. I think he is a winger. can we you know can we not just be a little bit appreciative of a young player that he's still learning his way who in January people were saying is the next Gareth Bale I just on the one hand Santos is the next Casemiro after a couple of good games in pre-season and on the other hand dog you shit again and I'm like I just don't get it like the only players the only players I've got a problem with in pre-season are the players i wish that weren't here anymore luke shaw i wish he wasn't here anymore i wish he'd go uh mason mount i wish he would go because i just don't see you know i know he's playing really well but he won't stay fit delo i'd love to sell delo because he's been here for years i'd love to upgrade him but i wouldn't take the dogoo thing i find weird And it happens with Yoro, it'll happen with Ahmad.

21:38And I'm like... It's almost like if you say something positive before you say something negative, people don't pick it up for what it is. It's a bit of a witch hunt. It's a bit of a witch hunt. I don't see Dorgu as a problem at all. I really don't. When he got injured in January, everyone was gutted. He never really got back. And now he's having a pre-season. and now people are deciding they don't rate him again. I think he's a massive player for us. I really do. I really do think Dorgou is a big player for us. Let me get into some of your comments tonight. Thank you, everybody, who is tuning in as well.

22:16But look, primarily, I know it's only pre-season and I know, you know, I was listening to what Mbermo said, probably thinks he's more of a winger than a striker. I was listening to what Yaro said, doesn't really think he's a right back, He's a centre-back, but he's enjoying covering for Dolo and Masraoui. It is only pre-season, of course it is. But I mean, I think we started off the pre-season Perlo thing as a community, didn't we? I think you can be fooled in pre-season by good performances. But I think what pre-season really is, is about is there any young players or new signings that look like they might be quite good?

23:00and obviously there's been a lot of praise for Santos, deservedly so. But I think Lacey scored last week against Rosenberg. Definitely man of the match contender today. I think at the moment he looks like a real success story and I just hope, I really do hope that, you know, it's a big season for Ahmad, it's a big season for Kunya, Marcus Rashford might be coming back. I hope in amongst all that, Carrick's got the balls to say Lacey is playing in this game. I don't want to see Lacey behind Ahmad, Embermo, Kunya, Rashford not getting game time. I really think there's an opportunity. And I think when you're a manager like Carrick, and I think he understands this because he's been at the club, I think he knows this fan base.

23:50And I think he knows that someone like Lacey can be the thing. you can sign players you can have Bruno Fernandes but I think he knows that someone like Lacey is his gem, it's his player and if he utilises him, not every week, not every game but he uses him in a way where it's like this is my player, we as fans will latch on to that maybe Amas as well but certainly Lacey I think that this is a real opportunity for Carrick, I really do and I hope he's going to take it because he's been the standout. And the great thing about Lacey is I think we already knew that there was a real talent there. He just had a few injuries.

24:34So look, let's wait and see. But it's the one thing that's made me feel positive this summer. And hopefully it can continue. Hi, Mark. As much as we need to bolster the squad, what's your main areas of concerns and what's your dream signings? I think Stilla would have been number one. I still massively worry about the midfield. I saw a tweet today. I think it was Paddy attacking football and we've said it here and he's absolutely right. Santos and Maynou can play together. Santos and Tillemans can play together, but Tillemans and Maynou can't. Now solve the equation with that. What's the problem with that?

25:10Santos and Maynou can play together. Santos and Tillemans can play together, but Maynou and Tillemans can't play together. What's the problem with that? Santos. One thing happens to him, injury, loss of form, we're in trouble. So we need another midfielder. We need another midfielder. That's the biggest problem in that team because if Santos doesn't do well or he gets injured, we're fucked. Because Manu and Tillemans won't work. So we desperately do need to bring another midfielder in, PJ. Should we not just look at signings and sales at the end of August and save the heartache, says Connor.

25:51I don't even know what to say to that, Connor. I mean, I need to know who they are. Please explain your criticism of Carrick's training drills when you praise training drills of Amarim Ten Hag. Seems like an anti-Carrick narrative, says Herod. I've already spoken about this in the preview. I think it's a really boring waste of time to go over it again. What that tweet was about, because it wasn't even on a video, was somebody put a clip up of Man United doing passing drills like we're going to win the league. And I literally just said, those passing drills are the sort of passing drills you do when you're six.

26:30That's what I said. I don't think it's going to get anybody scared. That's what I said. It was a tweet. It wasn't expanded on any more than that. So I don't know how you've turned that into an anti-Karrick thing. I just said why basically I said why are you getting excited about a passing drill that people do when they're six and I left about that pick the prop I don't know I don't want me to say Harrod you've turned it into a book when it was just a sentence Carrick knows that Lacey and Gabrielle and Amas need to be nurtured and perhaps Carrick can do that but we need to remember they are kids like Dorgu and Maynou Emily you are very intelligent and I think you've picked it up straight away this is why I'm talking about Dorgu I just can't stand people who go after young players because they have a bad game in pre-season.

27:19We're nurturing players and we're really bad at it. And we're going to be even worse at it if we're not patient. Look, even the Fletchers, right? I think there's a lot of people in this fan base who think the Fletchers are in the team because of their dad. And all I've said is, I don't know that I can't differentiate the two. And I've not seen anything from either. that differentiates them. And that's a bad thing. You know, Darren Neville and Phil Neville, very different players, even though they played at fullback. The Fletchers, they're like the same thing because I haven't seen anything from them yet.

27:55But I know what Fletcher did today and he did really well. So, you know, let's not write people off before we understand what they are. And we also need to appreciate no matter what they are, they're still young. What if Lacey plays against Hull in the first game and he's shit He's not finished, is he? We can't build a season around these players We have to build them And part of that is our task as well, as fans And we seem to have forgotten about that We're very, very quick to be critical of the owners and the board And we're very, very right to do that But we do have a role to play as well It's not as big a role as we would like But as fans, we should be patient with our younger players We should be patient with our new signings as well you might not like those new signings.

28:41I didn't really like the signing of Santos, but I would definitely give him a chance. Should we not just look at signings and say, I've done that one from Mr. Connor. You said you'd take Carrikova de Zerbe, says Kenny.

28:58I'm struggling a little bit tonight. It is a Saturday night show and I am struggling with this. You said you'd take Carrikova de Zerbe and then there's four laughing emojis where they're crying a lot, I would take Carrick over Dezerbi.

29:21Now, to be honest with you, I don't even know. You know what? Sometimes I say things. I say a lot. You know, when you speak for two or three hours a day, you do say a lot of things. And sometimes maybe I did say that. Maybe I didn't say that. Maybe I said I'd take Dezerbi over Carrick. and the next week I said I'd take Carrick over Deserby. Honestly sat here now, I don't know what I said. And I'll tell you for free, I'll tell you why I don't know what I said, because I don't see a massive amount of difference, if I'm being honest. If we're meant to believe that Deserby's on a different level to Carrick, well, I don't necessarily think he is.

30:00I actually think Deserby's quite... you know, this is the guy that said he'd rather play good football than win trophies. This is the guy that's actually done nothing in his career. You know, Marseille wasn't particularly good. Brighton wasn't particularly good. He's got a lot to prove at Spurs. I don't, I don't, I've spent too much time on that, Kenny. I don't give a fuck about Spurs. Spurs are not our rival. I don't know why we're being brought in. Actually, can I just apologise for the last two minutes? I don't want to talk about Spurs. You're not a rival. I'm sorry. You're not. You're not our rival.

30:38You're never going to be our rival. Best of luck for the season, but you're not our rival. Bye bye. Why did you write transfer boost? Says M3G4. Yeah, this is getting a bit weird now. So this is the United Stand. It's an eight o 'clock show on a Saturday night. It's not a free lesson in titles on YouTube. Give Newcastle, Maguire and Shaw for Hall, says Irish Beckham. and Ronnie says trying to become Ronnie the Dreamer from yesterday's show we are getting Hall Cermini and Watkins forever the United stands says Ronnie the midfielder I've done that one sorry Sean Turner says the midfielder will be someone out of the blue and cheap so keep an eye on Kessie and Goretzka both on a free so age won't matter says Sean yeah I mean look on the midfielder we have to get one erm I still think Kone is going to be something that we're going to regret if we don't do it.

31:33But we might regret not doing Kone if we go for Ciamini. I mean, I'm not saying, I don't think there's a huge amount of difference between the two. We'll just have to wait and see how that develops. I hope we will sign Hall because he is that good, but will we? With our board being cheap, I'm not convinced they will pull out all the stops. Mike, this is not known information. This is a complete and utter opinion. based bits of a statement. I do not understand how Man United can sign Lewis Hall, whose market value is 55 million. I don't know how we can pay 70 million pounds for him and then not pay for Fernandes or Tonali or Anderson.

32:17I don't know how we can justify overpaying for Lewis Hall. I just don't see how we can do that. I don't mind us doing it, but I don't see how the board can say, let's overpay on Lewis Hall because they'll want 70 million. They'll want 70 million for him. I remember, and I'm throwing myself under the bus here, I remember Beth saying something about Lewis Hall maybe in May or June and she did a video and I think she said 40 million for Lewis Hall and a load of Newcastle fans retweeted it and took the piss out of her and I came to the rescue. Well, I wasn't really the rescue. I came in to help because these Newcastle fans were saying 70.

32:57And I went, you can get fucked. We're never going to pay 70 million pounds for Lewis Hall. It'll be more like 55. The reality is, if we want to sign him in August, it will be that stupid 70 million pounds. He ain't worth 70 million pounds. He ain't worth 70 million pounds. He's not worth 65. He's not worth 60. It's 55 million tops, but we won't get him for 55 million in August. So we've got to accept that if we're going to sign Lewis Hall, we'll have to pay 70. and look if United put a bid in for Lewis Hall tomorrow for 70 and Newcastle said yes I'd be still happy but it would be quite funny because all those United fans that have been going were right not to overpay and then people like myself saying if you want something you should pay for it it would almost be the most confusing summer transfer window ever because when we didn't go for Mateus Fernandes or Anderson or Tonali and I and many of you were saying well we should have paid it because they're the players that we want.

33:52And then, you know, the Glazer Rimmers were going, oh no, we won't overpay. It's the right thing to do. We won't overpay. If we went and bought Lewis Hall for 70 million, we would be overpaying and I'd be okay with it and they'd be okay with it. But I would say, well, hold on a minute. Two months ago, you were saying we mustn't overpay. We mustn't overpay. And now we are. Which one is it? So that's what I mean. There's almost a level hypocrisy if united go and sign lewis hall for 70 million or 65 million they are overpaying which is something they weren't going to do two months ago so i don't see how this happens without us going back on what we've said and i don't think we will go back on what we've said did you see the great performance from lacy they're like new signings we must spend the rest of the budget on lewis hall forget the midfield and winger sorry he said did i see the great performance from Mount and Lacey.

34:44They're like, you know what, user 66? Many people say you're a troll. I'll leave it at that. Where are we now? What's your honest, complete prediction of all our signings by the end of the window, says the snail? I mean, I can't do this. I was doing the watch along today and people were saying, where do you think we're going to finish this season? I don't know. I genuinely, I don't know about you, but I genuinely don't know. and partially that's because of the lack of transfers but partially it's because look i ain't i i really don't care like i gent you people have been watching the channel for a long time know it i don't care i'll fall out with all of you and i'll love all of you like when rashford went out in belfast you lot were saying you did it i was like get fucked you didn't and and that was probably the worst show i've ever done i was arguing with everybody you're idiots i said it You're idiots.

35:37There's no way he's done it. And he did. I had to come and do a show and say, I'm sorry and all that. So I don't care. I'll say what I think. But I said at the start of last season, I don't think we'll get top five. And we did. We did. This season, obviously, we might sign some players. if I had to not sit on the fence I would say United will finish in the top four it's just a feeling but realistically if you would let me sit on the fence I would go I really don't know we could finish eighth we could finish third we could finish 12th we could finish second I just don't know this season it's really I mean seconds I actually can I retract that.

36:24I don't think we can finish top two. We might replicate third. We might finish eighth. I don't know this season. I really don't. I think it's so hard. So much of it depends on how we deal with two games a week. So much depends on what we do in the next month in the transfer window. And so much depends on what we do with people like Rashford. And so much depends on what Liverpool do in the next few weeks or Chelsea or Spurs or Villa. So it's difficult. It's really difficult to predict what's going to happen with United this season. I can see us signing Hall and no midfielders as angling for more.

36:59Well, that would be a disgrace. You know, I do like the idea of signing Lewis Hall and I do like the idea of signing a left-back but if we don't sign three midfielders, I'll be fucking fuming. I'll be absolutely fuming. If we go into the season with two midfielders signings you know I'll lose my shit. I really will i i think that's completely and utterly unacceptable um daniel thompson says it's summer slam weekend and we've had many heat weaves this summer but it's the united stand that's the hottest show around is live and direct this saturday we say hello to mark and united stand hope you've all had a good time uh and you daniel and i hope uh enjoy summer slam i didn't know that was on this weekend but there we go um smoggy says weekly to everton was a bit out of nowhere No fee mentioned.

37:47We'll go for peanuts. Going to be an exodus of youth for now. I mean, I can't imagine Ethan Wheatley going to Everton for anything more than three million. I mean, tell me I'm wrong, but I just I just can't see that being anything particularly high. Mark, do you think it will hinder us if we keep solving our problems one department at a time? Wasn't there an article that said until we address the defence next summer? Well, Paris, we've been doing this for a long time. Look, we didn't get a midfielder last summer when we should have done, and now we're doing it this summer. We probably need to sort our full-backs out this year, and we'll probably end up doing it next year in relation to right-back.

38:32At the end of the day, a lot of clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal and Man City, if the house needs decorating, they do it all at the same time. what united do is they'll do the living room then they'll do the kitchen then they'll do the hall then they'll do bedroom one bathroom bedroom three but by the time you've done bedroom three the living room needs doing again and so does the hall so this is the problem you're always chasing your tail if you don't solve your problems quickly and new problems come up as well you know So whilst you're doing your haul, your kitchen has a leak and needs doing again.

39:15So it's not the way to solve a football club. The way to be a successful football club is to solve all your problems as quick as you can. Just want to fall asleep and wake up on game day. Hate transfer window. David, Dave, Davey. I got to say. I sort of agree with you. pre-season is

39:39I can't believe it's still three weeks to the start of the season basically I do want to just start the season now I'm bored of the transfer window and I think pre-season is a bit boring as well I think because we've not gone to the United States or Asia it just gives it a little bit of a different feel but yeah I'm ready to start the season now um i'm looking forward to it um emily says depends on the midfield i wonder if we don't get the marquee name in midfield as the third midfielder they'll do it at left back it would be desperate and hypocritical but possible i don't see as emily signing a marquee midfielder now um i just don't think i can't see who it would be mr connor says with united it's death by a thousand cuts at least you can check the zero impact once after the deadline drown the sorrows and move on and josh says we are not good enough with the ball to not have an out and out six if we don't get a six we better get some better ball players around mainu and bruno says josh i still think we're going to transition though um there was a couple of deck times today where we got the ball from the defence and realistically there was a lot of space to go out to the right or the left and Mason Mount definitely did it once and I think maybe Santos did it as well it happened three or four times we got the ball in our half and it was after an Atletico Madrid attack and there was a pass out wide or even into the number 10 and we instantly went for Embermo and it didn't work and I thought we're still that team we're still going to be that team next season especially when Bruno's back we're still going to be the team that instantly looks for the killer pass and I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing Josh but you know when you're talking about we need a good number six

41:40to help break up the play or we need possession players to hold on to the ball I don't think we're going to be a possession team so we better go and get a good number six which is why cosme casemiro was so important because i just can't see it i can't see us changing the way we play i mean bruno fernandez fundamentally isn't that good at um keeping hold of the ball um his assets are always going to be his ability to transition so yeah um i i can't see that changing um

42:14Andy Mitten about Lewis Hall. They like Lewis Hall, but Newcastle would want a lot of money for him. It isn't straightforward where you just tick him and buy him. I'm sure the player wants to join Man United, but it's not about that. He's got a contract at another football club. I think we're hearing a lot of this now. Andy Mitten. Andy Pandy. I was just trying to throw random names. It doesn't matter. who it is. It could be anybody. The story is the same. It could be United Spotlight in the live chat, Man United like at Lewis Hall, but he's a Newcastle player. It's a very hard deal to do. I just think we've heard this story so many times.

42:57If you want to believe it, fine. I don't believe it. I think we've had so many letdowns this summer. I just don't know why I'd get any encouragement about Lewis Hall, you know, and we're always, you know, I've always said this about the Lewis Hall story, even Ben Jacobs two months ago or all the stuff that's coming out today. Okay. United want to sign Lewis Hall and maybe he'd like to leave, but Newcastle don't want to sell and they'd want a lot of money. And it's almost like people are focusing on United like Lewis Hall and they're not listening to Newcastle won't sell and they also want a lot our money.

43:34That's the thing. That's the problem. Man United liked Elliot Anderson. Man United like Mateus Fernandes. We were in talks with Mateus Fernandes just because we like it. I think if you're like a Man City fan and you hear somebody say Man City want Boadi, you probably think, right, we're going to get him. But it's not like that at United anymore. Man United really like Mateus Fernandes. Man United's number one priority is Elliot Anderson. Man United really admire Lewis Hall. It no longer means we're signing them. In fact, it probably means we're not. So we're not good enough. I've done that one from Josh.

44:10Has Oli secured any good team post Man United? Says Kenny. I think we I think you know that as well as I know. Do you have any thoughts on Sesco leaving? Look, Christian Folk is a journalist that's very, very close to Bayern Munich. And twice in the last 24 hours, he's spoken about Bayern Munich wanting Sesco. I have no information on this at all, other than that. But I genuinely think Sesco wouldn't leave Man United for Bayern. I think if Bayern rang Man United up and said, we want to sign Cesco, I genuinely don't think Cesco would go, it's my dream move. I might be completely wrong but I don't think Bayern Munich have got the pull to take away Cesco from Man United.

45:05If Real Madrid knock on the door, maybe, you know, maybe but I don't think Bayern Munich knocking on the door would make Cesco want to go and I don't think Man United would want to sell so So, look, some people are laughing at me for saying that. It's my opinion. I'm entitled to it. Bayern Munich are a huge club. I don't think they would do it. I do not think that he would want to go. So I personally think it's a load of bollocks, is my honest answer, Pope. Fair enough, but you praised previous managers for the same thing, so it shows an inconsistency, says Herod. Yeah, we're still going on about this crap.

45:44You didn't listen to what I said, did you? I was mocking the person who did the tweet. Making out, you know, it was something other than it wasn't. I don't remember what you're talking about with other managers, to be honest. Some fans are trying hard to convince themselves Man United will sign Chirmini and Hall. They refuse to see the reality is Tyler Adams, says Desiree. Dorgue reminds me of very young Doku. Only difference is he's learning in a much bigger league than League One and far bigger clubs, says Nate. look I think with Dorgoo when it doesn't work he looks a little bit awkward but when he's in the mood and he's playing well he's unstoppable I think we've got a very good player there I really do keep an eye out for Coop Miners it's also refreshing to hear about outgoings Bayinder, Gore and Wheatley says Kristen thank you very much for that what's Mount's role with no injuries under Karrick says Jarva I've got to be careful what I say here now Because he played well today I feel like it's a trap Well So you're asking me What's Mount's role with no injuries under Carrick The same role As what it was under Amrim I mean Amrim liked Mason Mount as well You know Amrim really did like Mason Mount I remember this time last year Mason Mount was being spoken about in the same way because he had a good pre-season.

47:16And the year before that, Ten Hag really liked him because he bought him. So, unfortunately, sometimes what's called the prophet of doom is the prophet of reason. A lot of people don't like that I don't rate Mason Mount, but I don't rate Mason Mount because he's always injured. I actually think he is a good player when we signed him from Chelsea I was like he is a good player a lot of people went mad when we signed him from Chelsea and I said to be honest I don't really understand why we bought him but he is a good player but my criticism of Mason Mount is his injury record is fucking appalling so for you to say to me Java what's Mount's role with no injuries under Carrick why when is he not going to be injured then like I've heard nothing to suggest that he can stay fit like he didn't have one injury and then get it sorted he's injured all the time with lots of different things now how is he going to stay fit if you want to play a hypothetical game of Mount never gets injured again I would imagine he's a bench player because I don't really know how he gets into the team but I'm sure he'd get a lot of minutes because I think Carrick and Amarim and Ten Hag like him but Carrick's the manager now but I don't I don't see I don't understand how we would ever have a world where he's not injured because how is he going to stay fit when he couldn't do it for three years RSM says you said Lewis Hall won't happen there's a few idiots in the chat tonight isn't there I know I've been skirting around the issue but there is definitely a few idiots in the chat tonight i said lewis hall wouldn't happen okay and if it does happen what happens do i have to quit the united stand or do i go great deal i'm really really happy i want it to happen mate i really want it to happen but i can't get behind this club and board again and be let down so i don't think it will happen in fact i think they're absolutely fucking useless it won't happen i'd love them to go, right, let's prove him wrong and sign him.

49:31But I don't think it'll happen. I don't think it'll happen at all. Love to see some Deleu final third fucked up an opportunity stats. Can we please sign an exciting right back, says Josh. And since Sesco is young, I can see Bayern putting an offer. Man United can't resist. Says She Loves Calgary. I mean, they'd have to give us 100 million.

49:56They'd have to give us 100 million. Quantum says, Hater's going to say, Mark, jinx the transfer. What transfer? The Hall one. We will have to pay 15 million more for Hall after they've sold Tonali, Bruno and Gordon. You snooze, you lose. Yeah, this is what I don't understand, Joe. If we really like Lewis Hall and we always liked Lewis Hall and Ben Jacobs, literally on this show, said at the end of May, Man United like Lewis Hall, it's just got Anthony vibes. Why didn't we put an offer in in May? Why have we waited till August? Because he'll definitely be more expensive now than he was then This is another thing I agree with Joe I don't understand why we've waited till August To potentially try and do a deal When if we'd gone for him in May or June It would have been cheaper It is a bit weird

50:52Going to the Manchester Derby Any things you must do while being in Manchester? feel like toxic Saturday today hope you and your family are well does feel a bit toxic Noah yeah don't know why but enjoy the trip enjoy the Manchester derby after watching pre-season what do you think the formation and tactics will be next season PS Eddie Howe manager next summer says Trevor I think it'll be pretty much what it is today I actually think sometimes the left back and Carrick did this a lot at Middlesbrough and we spoke about this Carrick still plays three at the back he just doesn't do it in a formational way.

51:28And what I mean by that is sometimes Luke Shaw very rarely goes forward and he's like a third centre-back, but the right-back goes forward and the left winger becomes the left wing-back. So you can see that sometimes with Carrick and we saw it last season. We're going to play the four at the back or whatever and we're going to play a three in midfield. We've seen in pre-season a desire to press when the opposition have got the ball. We saw that under Amram last year and it worked quite well. The problem is if people play through the press, they're going to get a back four that's a little bit slow in certain areas.

52:11I would like, I was thinking about this actually, I would like this season for us to do what we tried to do under Amram, which was outscore people. So under Amram, we were averaging over two goals a game, but we were also conceding two goals a game. Under Carrick, we were a lot better defensively. So I would like to see us trying to outscore teams again, whereby, you know, maybe we'll concede one or two, but we'll score three or four. But that would be very different to what Carrick did. Carrick was very much more about defensive counters. but I have seen a more pressing style than we saw from Carrick at the end of last season so maybe that's maybe we will see that change would you be content with just Hall and a third midfielder says one and only

53:06at this moment in time I can't see it being anything else other than that we've only got four weeks to go and I think a left back and a third midfielder is probably realistic yeah Mojo says the only worry we're in talks with a grave there is no one living we're talking to three weeks for the season to start

53:30and Jarvis says I'm speaking speaking hypothetically if he changes running style like gigs would Carrick consider starting him over others look I think we're still talking about Mason Mount here and it's a good conversation because his injury problem is not hamstrings it was a pelvic problem is what I got told about a year ago? No, it was longer than that. It was about 18 months ago. So about 18 months ago, it came out that Mount's problem was something to do with the pelvic and it was an injury that he would never really get past. And United were considering giving him an operation, but he would be out for six months.

54:16And they didn't go with the operation. So my assumption from that was that they decided the operation probably wouldn't totally solve the problem and you're better off just managing it. So, look, I don't know. I don't know. And also, you never know the information you're getting is that accurate.

54:37Maybe things can change. Look, Luke Shaw stayed fit for a whole season last year. Some people think he's had a miracle cure. I think playing one game a week and not training very much in the week. probably helped him. I think if we had two games a week, there's no way Luke Shaw would have stayed fit. But we'll never know. We'll find out this year. Maybe Mason Mount can suddenly stay fit for the rest of his career. But as I said, the feedback on his injury was that it was the type of injury that was always going to be a problem. So, you know, I don't know that he can stay fit. That's not his fault.

55:10I just don't know whether he can. Mark, we like Hall, but we really love Mendes. We're not going to get him though, Korsh. We're not going to get him. Okay. Thank you, everybody. I'm off to watch a film tonight, so I cannot do an after show, but I've thoroughly enjoyed the show with you. It's been a busy day today anyway, hasn't it? So we'll call it a day there. But thank you so much, everybody, for tuning in. Really enjoyed the show. Enjoyed the day. And as I said, finishing on a positive. It's very rare to feel positive around Man United, but I just was thinking about it then. I thought, you know what?

55:44If Carrick's going to use Lacey and he's going to get him involved in the first team, it's something to be excited about this season. And there's not always a lot to feel excited about. So let's hope that that's going to happen because I think he's been the star of pre-season so far. And if Carrick starts off like that, hopefully that's going to open the door to a lot more players as well. Have a great day. I am back with you tomorrow on the 10 o 'clock show, Sunday tomorrow, 10 o 'clock morning show. Let's keep an eye on this Lewis Halls thing and see if it develops. I don't think it will, but I am there hoping with you that it does.

56:20Stay safe. I'll speak to you on in a bit.

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