


The episode is a Manchester United-focused rant and debate about recruitment, ownership, and upcoming fixtures, sparked by the “Glazer Out” movement and a new Man United kit launch. The host argues the fan boycott/pressure campaign is inconsistent and easily undermined by short-term hype (retweets, kit sales, even buying Old Trafford “grass”). Key football topic: a potential January left-back move for Barcelona’s Lamine Yamal? (Balde is discussed) with the idea of a Rashford-for-Balde swap. Claims: United want to offload Rashford due to his £300k+/week wages; a January swap is unlikely because Barcelona have moved on. Recruitment critique: United buy “cheap and available” players instead of trajectory-up targets (examples praised: Alex Scott, Antoine Semenyo?; Truffaut, Lewis Hall).
Mount at Chelsea, Maguire retained for wages, Santos as an overpriced bench-player signing, and the “data-driven” recruitment that allegedly ignores price/quality signals.
none named; co-hosts/participants include Mark, Lee Berman, Arch, Pac, Charlie Cook Live, Alex, Tom, Stuart, James, Austin, Josh, DJ, Scott, Mo, and others in live chat.
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“When it comes to managing money, forget the hype and look at results.”
Discuss the Glazer Out movement and the implications of recent actions.
“Is Rashford heading out the door of Manchester United still?”
Debate over Manchester United's new kit launch amid fan frustrations.
“We've now got people buying bits of grass from Old Trafford for a shit team.”
Explore the potential Rashford-Balde swap deal and its implications.
“Arch says, have you seen, Mark, that Bale is interested in coming back from retirement?”
Critique Manchester United's recruitment strategy and future direction.
“I think Barcelona have moved on from Marcus Rashford, to be honest with you.”
Discussion on the types of players Manchester United should target for better performance.
“that lacks intelligence, consistency and desire.”
An analysis of Manchester United's financial decisions and their impact on performance.
“Pacific Life Insurance Company, Omaha, Nebraska, and in New York.”
Discussion on the historical context of Manchester United's success and current struggles.
“Because at the end of the day, if you've got somebody on 200 grand a week, and maybe you should be getting rid of them, but you're not going to get any money for them.”
Discussion about potential interviews and player insights post-2012.
“I mean, if you imagine if you sat Schweinsteiger down.”
Critique of Manchester United's recruitment strategy and reliance on data.
“absolutely spot on I mean we bring this guy in from the F1, Sansoni, who is a data king, and we're apparently being driven by the data.”
Exploration of the problems arising from budget signings and overlooked data.
“So we're not even listening to the data.”
Discussion on upcoming games and player dynamics in Manchester United.
“Look, we spoke about Leni Yorow yesterday.”
Discussion on Manchester United's poor recruitment strategies and missed opportunities.
“But these efficiencies are not how United work.”
Analysis of Marcus Rashford's recurring injuries and their impact on his performance.
“We would, we're not bothered about that to be honest with you.”
Exploration of how injury information is handled at Manchester United and its implications.
“So he'll play not 100 % and at some point he will get injured.”
Debate on squad depth issues and their effect on player performance and injuries.
“I don't know why they cover up injuries.”
Debate on squad depth issues and their effect on player performance and injuries.
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1:09Discover it now at Pura.com. Live with your latest Manchester United news. I hope you're all doing well. Is Rashford heading out the door of Manchester United still? Could Balde be entering the door at Manchester United? And I feel I need to mention the door again. Could the door be closed on exits for United as they look to go cheap again next summer? We'll look into that as well. Also, well, I want to start off here, actually, because I was two weeks ago trying to enjoy a few days away after, you know, a very busy few months. And basically my phone was popping off saying, why are you not getting involved and supporting this Glazer Out movement?
1:55Why? How dare you go on holiday for two days in an international break and not retweet something about the Glazer Out movement? So I ended up doing a video saying I've seen it all before. I've seen it all before. This will die out very, very quickly. It's faceless. I respect it. Any Glazer Out movement has my support, but I ain't going to waste my time. retweeting stuff and saying this is going to work when I don't think it will work. Lo and behold, a few days later, it fell apart like I knew it would. In fact, I think the people who were pushing that are now talking about injuries and transfers because, you know, unlike the 58, the Red Army and everybody else, it's just a little bit of a fill the international break project, isn't it?
2:39However, however, you may have seen today that Man United, And I don't understand this. I don't understand this at all. But Manchester United have launched a new kit. Berbatov has been involved in it and Bermot. And I don't know what the kit is. It's got some letters on it. Maybe it's for charity. I don't know. But Man United have launched some new kit. And loads of people are going, fire, fire. Oh, it's so cool. And I'm sure the Man United website is inundated with people buying this kit. You know where I'm going to go with this. Two weeks ago, we were being pressured to a point where representatives of the 58, the Red Army, shut down their accounts and said, I don't need this personal abuse.
3:20Two weeks ago, people were basically forcing good people out of the fight against the Glazers because they wouldn't retweet stuff. Two weeks later, people are championing a new kit that we don't need for the Glazers, putting money in their pockets. Two weeks ago, people were attacking sponsors and flooding their emails with don't support Manchester United. Two weeks later, people are buying a new kit. Some people are even buying blocks of grass from a pitch that we've done for call on for 125 quid. If I speak more than this, I probably get in trouble. So for all this boycott sponsors and force good people out of the fight against the Glazers that we had two weeks ago, we've now got a new kit launch.
4:04We've now got people buying bits of grass from Old Trafford for a shit team. We don't help ourselves, do we? What we'd be better off having is a structured, consistent movement that isn't all about hyperbole in an international break or if we don't sign a left back. You need 12 months, 365 days a year, every year, a legitimate, respected movement against the Glazers. what we have is two weeks ago abuse if you don't retweet something to two weeks later oh let's forget about all that the kit and boomer looks great in the new kit oh let's buy a chunk of grass you know so look I think it's worth mentioning because if you didn't mention the Glazer Out movement two weeks ago you're an enemy of the club well I think this needs mentioning as well how you get played by this ownership is hilarious absolutely hilarious hilarious.
4:59And it's our own fault. What do you think about the kit, Mark? I wouldn't wipe my arse on it, to be honest, because I don't know what it's for, unless it's for charity, in which case I would not wipe my arse on it anyway, because it's for charity. I don't know what it's about. I don't know what the kit's all about. I mean, look, Berbatoff looks very good in anything, and Bermot looks very good in it, but I don't know what it's about. Is it just another way to get you to buy something to make money for the glazes? I don't actually know what the new kit's all about? I presume we're not wearing the kit.
5:29It's got some letters on it. Adidas have released it. But I don't know what it's all about. I don't know what it's all about. Anyway, I felt that needed saying at the start. Maybe you want to come back at me about that. That's what we do. But there you go. Arch says, have you seen, Mark, that Bale is interested in coming back from retirement? And apparently United is where he wants to go. Any thoughts on that? Yeah, I don't know. It's a collab. It's an Adidas range of terrace wear, says Lee Berman. Great. Yeah. OK. Right. Let's get into the show. So a few bits to get into. We're going to start off with Rashford-Balde swap deal.
6:09Shock mega swap deal in January. Where is all this coming from? Well, it's news. Basically, Manchester United are still interested in Balde ahead of January, according to Spanish results reports. The Barcelona left-back has played just 12 minutes this season and his lack of game time could open the door to a winter move. Luke Shaw and Dorgue remain united, only recognise senior left-back options with Dorgue picking up an injury and Luke Shaw obviously, you know, well, nothing more to say about that. Man United therefore could be looking to pursue a deal in January. Now, further to this, and I missed this on the show last night, we mentioned a few things from Chris Wheeler's article.
6:54Basically, what he also had to say was that when it comes to Marcus Rashford and why can't I? Oh, you know what? I could crush a fucking grape. Idiot. I actually read this and I haven't I haven't put it down for myself.
7:14I really don't want to be misquoted on this.
7:21I'm going to have to do it on memory. So basically, in the article for Chris Wheeler, it said that Man United wanted to offload Marcus Rashford in the summer due to his extortionate wage of over£300 ,000 a week. They would still look to do that, but the chances of them doing it in January are slim. So some people are saying, well, Rashford was at Barcelona, Balde's at Barcelona. Maybe there's some sort of swap deal we could do in January because United still want to get rid of Rashford and get rid of the wage and Man United might want Balde and therefore you could do a swap deal. I think Barcelona have moved on from Marcus Rashford, to be honest with you.
7:58I mean, Anthony Gordon's had a very good international break and has done very well at Barcelona. Adeyemi was a very intelligent signing. They've still got Jamal. They've still got Rafinha. They've got Torres, haven't they? They don't need Marcus Rashford, who's going to be 29 in three weeks' time. So Barcelona aren't going to do a deal with us. We could do a deal for Balde at left-back. I've got two big issues with these stories, though, and I want to know your thoughts on them, right? I'm massively confused, and maybe it's because of the interview with Berbatov yesterday when he mentioned about the IQ of players that need to be at Man United and how football's a very simple game for intelligent players, and I think we lack intelligent players at Man United.
8:39What I don't get about United's recruitment and retainment of players is, what's the plan? What is the big idea? If you look at someone like Marcus Rashford, is he here because you couldn't get rid of him? Or is he here because you want to build a future with him? Is that too much to ask? Because if the answer to that question is, he's only here because we can't get rid of him, what sort of message does that send out for a football club and its ambitions? I mean, if Barcelona were in this situation, they'd ship him out. They'd take the hit and ship him out because if you're not part of the plan, you're part of the problem.
9:14What actually is Rashford's role at Manchester United? Because he's out of contract in 18 months. So are we giving him a new contract? Are we letting it run down? Why is he in the first team if he's not part of the plans? Why is he playing every week if we're not going to give him a new contract? Are we going to give him a new contract on 300 grand a week? Like, I pose these questions because they're intelligent questions and I want to know what the answer is. What is it as a fan I'm expected to do about Marcus Rashford? Are you looking to keep him long term or are you looking to just keep him because you can't get rid of him?
9:47I don't have the answer to that question. I don't know whether Marcus Rashford's got the answer to that question. How can you be a serious football club when you've got a player that you don't even know why they're there? Like, is he here just because you couldn't get rid of him? Is Carrick using him because Carrick is weak? I mean, I don't know the answer to that question. And as for Balde, I'm just going to say this right now. I think he's a decent player. And in the last week of the transfer window, I definitely would have signed him because let's be honest, Balde is better than nothing. I mean, at the end of the day, Danny Rose is better than nothing.
10:22And I don't even know if he plays football anymore. So of course I would have took Balde in the last few weeks of the transfer window because it's better than nothing. But I'm sort of confused again about what it is that a player like that is a player that Man United would want. You listen to people like Berbatov and Rooney talking about the Man United dressing room when it was successful. You know, the demands, the leadership. And then you want to bring a player in from Barcelona who's basically a flop and they don't want. What in his personality and characteristics make him a player for Manchester United?
10:59And this is what I mean. Balde is better than Luke Shaw. I completely agree, Pac. And maybe that's why I'm conflicted on this. There is definitely an upgrade. But does this not betray the standards at Man United that we've stopped going for the players that clearly improve us, clearly on a trajectory up, clearly looking for a step up? I'm talking about the Elliot Andersons. I'm talking about the Alex Scotts. I'm talking about the Truffers. I'm talking about the Lewis Halls. These are players who are trajecting up. They're not flops where they are. They're not players that aren't playing where they are.
11:33They are players on the way up in their career. Balde is surely a player that's on the way down. You know, he's not being used by Barcelona, probably wants to stay at Barcelona, but isn't going to get the minutes. So looks to go elsewhere. You're bringing a player in on a downward trajectory. Now, he might end up being good, but is this this type of recruitment to me is wrong. we wonder why we keep making mistakes when the mistakes are staring you in the face you look at Mason Mount at Chelsea he clearly had injury problems you gave him 250 grand a week you gave him the number 7 shirt and you gave them 55 million pounds with one year left on his contract the warning signs were there and we keep making these mistakes Balde is probably better than Luke Shaw it's not hard but is he the right left back to bring to Manchester United When the going gets tough, what has he done at Barcelona?
12:25Is he going to do that at Man United? I just think our recruitment is just strange. It's really strange. Anybody with half a brain knows that the type of players we want and need are out there. We just don't go and sign them. I mean, look at Balaba. I'm hoping Balaba is going to do really, really well. But if you look at Balaba last season, my big problem with Balaba, and this is not breaking news, was that he didn't get the move to Man United and he was predominantly shit the whole year. He didn't do very well at all. So I think that really, I don't really know how you look at this and say, this is a good thing for Manchester United when there are players out there that you can go and get that do have potentially the right CV.
13:18And I use the word potentially because not everybody's a guarantee, but I think at United, it is a big problem. And it all comes down to recruitment for me. Like, do I want Bolday as Man United's left back? Well, I want him over nothing, but I don't want him over Truffaut or Lewis Hall or... Well, I did a video on it on Sunday, didn't I? There was a few people in there. I'd probably take Anthony Robinson as well. Our recruitment needs to be a lot better. And this sporadic scattergun approach of they're better than Luke Shaw. Well, what? I don't want to buy players where it's going wrong. I suppose that's what I'm saying.
13:56I don't want to keep or buy players where it's going wrong. I don't think that improves a squad that lacks intelligence, consistency and desire. Bringing players in that have experience of things going wrong, I don't think that's a good idea. And I think, look, Santos, bench player at Chelsea. Belaba, bad season at Brighton. Tillemans, good season at Villa. Now, I don't know who's going to succeed out of some of those, but if some of them don't succeed and they're coming off bad times at their previous clubs, you'd look at it and go, this is an example of why we shouldn't be bringing those sort of players in.
14:29You look at Elliot Anderson to Man City, coming off a really good two years for Forrest and England. That's the sort of signing I think Man United should be making. Lewis Hall at Newcastle, coming off a really good time at Newcastle in the England team now. That's the sort of player. Truffaut, coming off a good 18 months for Bournemouth. He's now in the French squad. That's the sort of player that Man United should be signing. But they come with a price tag. And this is the problem. When you're not willing to pay the price tag, you end up taking risks. And I think we've taken way too many risks.
14:59And that sort of fits in with Rashford, doesn't it? Because I look at Rashford and I go, that to me, I haven't got a problem with Rashford. I've always said I'll keep an open mind. But when you read stuff about United really wanted to get rid of him in the summer, but nobody would buy him, I sort of suspect that might be true. And the problem with the human brain is that when you suspect something that might be true and then it doesn't go well, you start to believe it's true. And I don't think that... I think United, when something's true, tend to be quiet. Because if you don't say anything, you can't get caught.
15:39But I know for a fact Ruben Amrim wasn't the driver in getting Marcus Rashford out of the club. He didn't want him, but neither did Ineos. Amrim got sacked. Carrick comes in. Rashford comes back. I don't think United's opinion of Rashford changed. And I think that the wages will be a huge... Look, Man United are very, very, very money focused. The wages will be a big issue. Carrick clearly likes Rashford. Hopefully he can start scoring goals. But I still do look at the player and say, to me, that is a big issue, a very, very big issue. And it's one that I think United need to... Let's be honest.
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18:15We need some clarity of direction, don't we? We need some communication. So I don't think Man United are going to do a swap deal for Barcelona with Balde. I don't think that's going to happen at all. Do I think Man United move for Balde in January? I think it's a possibility, but I'm conflicted on it. I wouldn't run a poll on it because I think we'd all say yes. I would say yes, sign him in January because it's better than what we have. But I will say this, I've moved past, and I don't know where you are, I've moved past the situation now of being excited about Man United signings. I think, yes, bring Bolday in, it's better than what we have.
18:47But also, is he the type of player that we need? We cry out for we need more Roonies and better personalities and Man United players. But we very rarely go for them. We very, very rarely do. too. Look, the left back we need to sign is the left back I said months ago, and it's the left back I said on Sunday. Triffitt is the player to go for. That's the left back to go for. He ticks absolutely every single box. He'll be more expensive than Balde, so that makes him unlikely. But that is exactly the sort of player that Man United should be going for, in my opinion. Can't wait for the Carriger, Goldbridge and Neville explosion on Friday.
19:27I'm looking forward to it, Alex, actually. Throw some stuff in. I'm more than happy to mention it. Charlie Cook Live says, it brings me no joy to say this, but United have finished. We'll never win anything under this ownership. Their only ambition is making money. I think, look, Charlie, it's a bit negative for a Wednesday morning, especially now the international break is over and we've got this avalanche of football coming. Starts off with Spurs on Saturday. Then it's Atletico Madrid midweek. Then it's Leeds. Then it's Como. Then it's somebody else. There's loads of games to come and there'll be loads and loads of scrutiny around that and hopefully loads and loads of wins.
20:04However, I do agree with you. I just was thinking about the show this morning and I was like, I like Baldy, but I'm not going to go on the show and say, yeah, let's get this deal done. Because the more I watch the shows that we're doing on Stick to United and the more you hang around with these players that have played at the level of Man United where we need to be, the standards we want, there's this constant theme and you'll have seen it in the Berbatov video yesterday or when we speak to Wayne or some of the other videos we've done or even when we spoke to Wes Brown it's just this standard that's in the dressing room it's this demand that's in the dressing room it's this mentality that's in the dressing room and that standard demand and mentality is in the individual and clearly through the 90s and the noughties we had a collective of players that had that mentality standards and demand we don't have that at the moment so how do you get that you can't just sit there going oh we used to be so good and now we're so shit i think you have to i think you have to you have to buy it or you have to nurture it and i think this is a this is a harsh truth that nobody wants to acknowledge We don't have the thing that the Nevels and the Keens and the Roonies talk about every week at Man United.
21:29And I think it starts to irritate people because they go, I'm so fed up of listening to all these ex-players slagging Man United off. You know, nobody was doing it when they were there. Would they have liked it? And I sort of sometimes sit there and go, well, any Man United player gets slagged off. Even 20 years ago, you got slagged off. But there wasn't a lot of ammunition to slag them off with because they were winning things. The reason they're slagging this team off and these players off is because they can see in 4K that they're not good enough. This used to happen with Match of the Day years ago when you had people like Alan Hansen on and Liverpool were crap.
22:09And he'd been good with Liverpool and he'd say pretty much the same thing. But it is solvable. It's solvable. If you gave me an open checkbook tomorrow, I would go and buy us six players straight away that fit in, in my mind, with the right demands, standards, and quality that Man United need. Off the top of my head, I would sign Alex Scott. I think he'd be brilliant for Man United's midfield. I think he's got the right tools. I would buy Truffauts. I just bought two players from Bournemouth. But there are other players I would go and sign that I think would suit Manchester United as well. If we don't sign those players, and we had a prime example in the summer of this, nobody, nobody said, you know what?
22:58The midfield market is full of options. I really think Tillemans, Santos and Balaba are the three. Nobody said that. And look, let's hope they are, but nobody said those three players. People were talking about Elliot Anderson, Tonali, Alex Scott, Cermini, Ento Fernandes. God, there's Manu Kone, Mateus Fernandes. There's just so many players. Wharton, fucking loads of players, right? We went and bought three players that really nobody was talking about. And again, we didn't go and buy the right players. we didn't buy the players with those traits that I think United need and we don't have those traits in the squad at the moment so when we get linked to people like Bolday I sort of go good player but are we buying him because he's cheap and available or are we buying him because he's the right I'd rather spend 50 million on Truffaut and believe he's the right player than spend 25 million on Bolday because he's cheap but you know the deal that Man United will do And it's exactly the same thing that's going to happen with Luke Shaw and Martinez.
24:13We will keep Martinez and we will keep Luke Shaw the same way we kept Harry Maguire. Because at the end of the day, if you've got somebody on 200 grand a week, and maybe you should be getting rid of them, but you're not going to get any money for them. And then to replace them, it's going to cost you 40, 50 million pounds. You know what a business is going to do. Because at the end of the day, it's a little bit like running a haulage firm and one of your lorries has seen better days and this lorry goes from your depot to Edinburgh every day and the driver says look I don't know how many more miles it's got left on the clock we probably need a new lorry it'll be more efficient we'll probably be quicker and then the boss says yeah but a new lorry is going to cost me 100 grand if we service this one it's going to cost me a grand will it get through another couple of years and the driver says well it will do but it won't be as good as having another lorry yeah we're not getting a new lorry and this is how United run their club obviously you could have replaced Harry Maguire in the summer with a better centre back you could have done that but will Harry Maguire give us another year on 200 grand a week yeah we'll just save 50 million quid next summer should we sell Martinez and bring another centre-back in?
25:35Should we move Luke Shaw on and bring another left-back in? Well, we could do, but it's going to cost upwards of£100 million to do those two deals, whereas if we keep them, it costs us nothing apart from their wages. This is how Man United's being run. It's chirpy, chirpy, cheap, cheap. And this is not speculative. This is not hyperbole. This is not melodramatic. This is just the way we're run. If you want to replace a player that's not good enough anymore, and it's going to cost you 50 million or you can keep them for two years and not replace them and it costs you their wages, we'll pay the wages.
26:13We're not making football decisions. We're making financial decisions. And that's why you don't win things. Class episode with Berbatov says Tom, looking forward to future guests and Man United legends. Any chance of Keane? Glinioss out, says Tom.
26:31We've got some big ones coming. And when I say, I mean, look, I think Berbatov was big, but, you know, there are some iconic ones coming. I'm not going to tell you when they're coming, but I find, to be honest with you, I mean, we've got a few lined up before Christmas. And there was one we recorded a couple of weeks ago that I was a little bit like. I wouldn't say I wasn't excited about it. I was sort of like, I don't know. I don't know what the word would be because it wasn't a lack of excitement or respect or anything like that. It wasn't. It was more a, I don't know what the word would be.
27:14I didn't know whether it would be of interest to a modern audience, basically, which probably gives a hint away. But from the second I sat down, because to me, I was looking forward to it because it was more my era as a kid. But I was like, you know, it's 2026. And then I sat down and you instantly weave it into today and then. And obviously, Wayne was there to compare it with his time. And it was a brilliant, brilliant episode. So I enjoy them all. There's very few. I mean, I don't want Beppe or Obertan, but I think that there are plenty of, I mean, that's the great thing about Man United. And it's the great thing about Man United and it's the annoying thing about Man United.
27:57I think between 1990 and 2012, there is just a vast array of people and interesting stories about the success of Manchester United. Then post 2012 to today, there's not that many people I'd want to interview. There's not a lot of success. And what are you going to learn? I mean, if you imagine if you sat Schweinsteiger down. How long before you start talking about Bayern Munich and Germany? I like Schweinsteiger and I think he'd be very interesting. But, you know, the interesting bits will be Mourinho getting him to train with the kids. You know why it went so wrong. Yeah. Do you think the game is this game at the weekend is Alsacico, says Scott?
28:48I mean I think it could be a problem for De Zerbe I don't think it's a problem for Carrick as per last night's show Paul says I'm loving the weekly video well done on your progression from the one show per week now congratulations maybe get Beckham on and ask him to buy the club says Paul on a personal level I would absolutely love David Beckham on one of the most iconic Man United players we've ever had one of my two favourite players growing up however yeah I mean he's a megastar isn't he David I don't know why I'm calling him David Sir David Beckham recruitment strategy has gone from being data driven and best in class to they are cheap and available so let's get them what happened to getting players that are actually suitable for what we need I think look Patrick again you've dropped another bomb of truth a truth bomb absolutely spot on I mean we bring this guy in from the F1, Sansoni, who is a data king, and we're apparently being driven by the data.
29:54Well, let me tell you a leak. I've known this for a long time and I think you know it as well. The data this summer on midfielders said Mateus Fernandes, Elliot Anderson, Chiumini. They were the three data-driven signings for Man United. Now, Chumini probably wasn't realistic. I can't blame the club for that. I think Chumini, I know Chumini would have come to Man United. If Real Madrid had said you're for sale, he would have come to Man United. No problem at all. There was definite interest from him, but we couldn't do the deal. Mateus Fernandes hasn't been very good at Spurs, but I'm a firm believer that Elliot Anderson could have gone to Man City and been a flop.
30:41I still would have took him at Man United. It's a different pathway. It's a different club. Data said Mateus Fernandes, we didn't do it because of the price. Data said Elliot Anderson, we didn't do it because of the price. What use is having data-driven recruitment if you're not going to pay for the knowledge? It's like going on Trustpilot and saying, or which or whatever they call it. I'm looking for a new vacuum cleaner for my carpet in the living room. I want high suction, don't we all? And reliability and cordless because I can't be arsed with wires, right? And I whack it in to bloody some system that tells me the best.
31:38And but they're all over 200 quid. And I end up going with option 10 because it's less than 100 quid, but it's full of problems. You know, battery life is low, suction's not great, you know, and 10 has a history of breaking down after six months. Sounds like a description for somebody. Anyway, but the point is, I buy it because it's cheap, despite knowing the problems. But the data said, go for these other four. They're more expensive, but they have got the suction. They have got the reliability. They have got the battery life. But I go for something because it's below 100 quid. Because regardless of the data, I just don't want to pay over 100 quid.
32:20So why have the data in the first place? This is Manchester. Welcome to Manchester United. Apparently, we've got the data. We've got an amazing data team. But we don't listen to it because we have a parameter of we don't want. I mean, look at Santos. I mean, Santos is going to get it here, right? Santos is massively overpriced. £48 million for a Chelsea bench player. And Chelsea aren't even very good. £48 million for a Chelsea bench player is overpriced. There ain't no fucking way the data said do that deal. No fucking way did Sanos's fucking, Sansoni's data say go and sign Santos for£48 million.
33:04No. The reason we signed him is because he's below 50. If you're below 50 million pounds, United are ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. But it's only because they're below 50 million pounds. It's not because anything else. It's because they're cheap. But he's massively overpriced at that. So we're not even listening to the data. We're looking at the price tag, which you shouldn't do. You shouldn't do it. If you are looking for a piece of jewellery for somebody for Christmas and every review, including people who've bought it, experts say, this£1 ,000 piece of jewellery is going to make you very popular with your partner for the next year.
33:53It's amazing. It's absolutely brilliant. And you go, I don't want to spend£1 ,000. pounds. I'm really looking for something around a hundred pounds. And you look around and then you find a similar piece of jewellery and you go, I'm going to buy that. But you look at the reviews. Well, you know, it changes colour over time. It makes your skin rash and you can tell, you know, you can tell it's a fake. Man United would buy the hundred pound one and risk it. You should buy the thousand pound one. But we're not doing that. We're not doing that. Where's Data Dean? He's handed in his notice, James. He's disgusted.
34:34Can't wait for that. Thank you very much, Charlie Cook Live and Alex. Where's Data Dean? Says James. Thank you very much. You can forget about having me a guest in the show. Says official David Beckham YouTube. After you called me an idiot on FC 27, I'm suing you as well. Thank you, David. Hi, Mark. How long till Cunyre is unhappy over Rashford being played over him after all the work the team put in last season to be back in the Champions League? Says Austin. I don't know. I know nothing about Kunja, but he doesn't strike me as the sort of player that's going to cause waves. I think he looks quite positive and happy.
35:08Although Kunja wasn't in the Brazil squad, was he? Which surprises me because he did go to the World Cup.
35:25No, he did. He was in the squad.
35:33Mateus scored twice as Brazil registered their first three points at the 2026 FIFA World Cup. No, no. What? 21 hours ago, Man United put an article.
35:48No, that was four months ago. Maybe he didn't get called up.
35:58let's have a look
36:04current status axed from the team for the post-World Cup friendlies against Australia and India Jao Pedro was called in his place but he got injured
36:17yeah he wasn't part of it
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37:51Yeah.
37:55Um... Look, we spoke about Leni Yorow yesterday. Kunja up front, not on the wing, is on Carrick. Yorow, not in the team, is on Carrick. When Zidane is there giving Yoro his time and teaching him and nurturing him and praising him and giving him 90 minutes, that reflects badly on Carrick. When an international coach is developing a player more than his domestic coach, it's embarrassing. And look, I think Carrick's got a lot of scrutiny and it's countdown time, isn't it? Now, Saturday is not far away. Then it's Atletico and Madrid away. We've got some tough games coming up and I'm actually really looking forward to them because I don't think there's anywhere to hide against Spurs or Atletico Madrid or Leeds or Como.
38:40We're capable of winning all those games. People are going to laugh, but we're capable of winning all those games and getting our season back on track. We're also capable of losing all those games and things going really badly. So there's not really anywhere to hide now. They used the debt and transfer mistakes in the past as excuses not to spend. It's cheap FC. Keep up the great work, Mark and the United Stand. Thank you very much, Stuart. for that. But yeah, answering the question of Austin, how long until Kunya gets unhappy? Look, I said something last night that I know. I know something else and I'm not going to say it ahead of Spurs because it just gets taken out of context and it gets turned into something negative and I'm refusing to say it.
39:24But if you ask me after Spurs, I'll tell you. But, you know, you do get told things. you do hear things you do have contacts and yeah I'm just not I'd be irresponsible to say it I'm not going to say it I'll wait until after the game because we need to win on Saturday regardless of what the future is with Carrick or anything else we need to win on Saturday Santos also got called up for Brazil but can't get a game for Man United says Josh well he's the new Casemiro he's the new Casemiro isn't he DJ says the Como game is worrying me a bit I think the Atletico Madrid game is worrying me. They're not a bad side Atletico.
40:07And they've definitely got goals in them and it's a tough place to go and get a result. And they're not really an attacking side. So we love to play away from home against teams that are attackers that we can counter. Having said that, that could be a game to mark Rashford down for a goal because I think Rashford played really well when he was out at Barcelona. And I remember him having a really good game for maybe it was Amrim or Ten Hag out in Spain right near the end. I can't remember who we were playing. It would have been the Europa League. Was it Real Sociedad or something like that? I think he got subbed at half-time, but he had a really good first half.
40:52So maybe Spanish football suits him a little bit. Yeah. Slazy says, I spent years buying hiking shoes for£100, needing new ones each year due to wear. Then I spent£400 and they've been going strong for seven years now. Look, I definitely think there is an analogy there around you get what you pay for. And I think in football, you do get what you pay for. And look, Elliot Anderson, I've mentioned him four times on the show. We should have been all over that. Now, Man City's cheating probably prevents that, but that's the type of player that you need to go for. Alex Scott is the type of player that you need to go for.
41:33There are plenty of others in the summer that's just gone and in previous summers. We should have gone for Lewis Hall as well. We needed a left back. We didn't want to pay the price. Newcastle would have sold at the right price. The way to sign Lewis Hall was not for£70 million in the last two weeks of August. The way to sign Lewis Hall was to know that you needed him in February and go for him in May and June when he wasn't at the World Cup. The way to sign Lewis Hall was to get in there before Tonali went to Spurs and Anthony Gordon went to Barcelona. But these efficiencies are not how United work.
42:13If we'd have got at the front of the queue for Lewis Hall and said to Newcastle in May and June, we'll give you 60 million now, we really want him, and Lewis Hall pushes for the move, you're negotiating. You're already negotiating. we sit there and wait and then go, oh, it's too expensive. Like Lewis Hall would have been the right signing for Man United. But you could have tried it with Bournemouth and Truffaut as well. You snooze, you lose. Our recruitment policy is shit. And the reason it's shit in defence of Wilcox and Barada, the reason it's shit is because, and I doubt this happened, but even if it did, if Jason Wilcox said to Barada, let's put a bid in for Truffaut now in June and get working on this deal and get it done and Barada says to Ineos and Sir Jim Radcliffe we want to do this deal now the answer coming back from Sir Jim and Joel Glazer would be no no we're not spending now in June because if we do the deal in August that's two months of not paying that and it's two months of not paying wages and we think we'll get a better deal in August but you don't you don't do the deal in August and this has happened many a time I don't understand why we can't play Yoro with Martinez Harry with Martinez and the odd time Heaven with Harry when De Ligt back he can take Harry's place as Gazza I think it's going to be very interesting to see how it develops with Lewis Hall sorry with Lenny Yoro to be honest with you Official Jason Wilcox says have me on the show so I can prove I'm doing good mate if you were the real one you're more than welcome on the show.
43:53We would, we're not bothered about that to be honest with you.
44:04Any updates on injuries, Mark? We sort of did it last night. Sesco won't play on Saturday. Dorgue won't play on Saturday. Well, I don't expect Dorgue to play from what we were told. Apparently, Ahmad's not ready. De Ligt's not ready. We don't know about Rashford. I I expect Maynard and Rashford back, but Rashford worries me a little bit because the injury Rashford has, it's impossible for him to be fully fit, but he has been playing with the problem and if he's had some rest, he probably can play. The trouble is, Marcus Rashford's been carrying a hip injury since the World Cup and he's been playing with it, so he's not playing at 100%.
44:41After Fulham, it aggravated to a point where he would have been out the next game if we'd had another game. he's now had two and a half weeks of rest and it's probably better than it was at the end of Fulham but it might be the same as it was when he was playing against I don't know Everton which is not 100 % fit so the question is how does Marcus Rashford get 100 % fit or does Carrick just have to keep using him with an injury it's going to be a very long season my fear with Rashford is if he's not 100 % fit and he's playing with pain at some point he's going to be out for a period of time. Like I said, if we hadn't had an international break after Fulham, he would have been out for a couple of weeks.
45:26So the international break has come at a good time to give him a rest, but I doubt he's back 100%. So he'll play not 100 % and at some point he will get injured. So it's one of those. You're managing an injury that is going to get worse by the sounds of it. You can say all you want about signing better players but Conte won a league with Moses and Alonso as wing-backs. Managers make players better and champions. Disagree. I've got to disagree because Ranyek couldn't, Ten Hag couldn't, Amrim couldn't, Karik can't, Oli couldn't. I think you can turn Tom Cleverley into a combative midfielder who gives you 7 out of 10 every week, but there are some players that you can't do that with.
46:14and I think we've tried and tried and tried and tried and a lot of players that we've got are massively, massively inconsistent. Yeah. Stuart says, I think they lie about injuries to cover up the incompetence of the medical department and board. I don't know why. I mean, it's not lying, isn't it? I don't know why they cover up injuries. Man United, you're probably right, Stuart. Man United's fitness department two, three years ago was getting absolute pelters publicly. And around that time, we suddenly stopped giving updates on injuries. I think it was 10 hogs last full season where we had so many injuries and the fitness department was getting absolute pelters.
47:00And ever since that point, we seem to stop giving updates on injuries. So we never get told how long someone's out for. We never do. Carrick never comes out and says, like, Seska will be out for two months or Mount's out for three weeks. It's always, you know, Mason Mount's last injury was out for a month. But all Carrick said every time was, oh, it's a little knock and we're open to have him back soon, which makes you think he's going to be back for the next game, but he never was. So we just don't, we conceal the truth. And I think you're right, Stuart. I think it's to protect the fitness department because they get so much shit.
47:43it's obvious why Rashford's played with injury says Jem imagine the fans if he hadn't played due to an injury at the start of the season well I think Rashford's ended up playing a lot of games because of injuries to Ahmad and Sesko there's not really anybody else as well I don't think
48:02look I think Rashford would be in a rush to re-establish himself at Man United and I think Carrick would be in a you know a rush to use him because there's not anybody else now if Rashford has scored a few goals and Man United won a few games then that would have been absolutely fantastic but it hasn't happened and then people are like my personal feeling is that I don't think Rashford's far off but playing with an injury probably hasn't helped him at a time where he's going to get scrutinized but who would you play you could have put Kunja on the left and given Rashford a few weeks to recover, but who would have played up front?
48:39Xerxes. And then who's your bench? Like, you know, ultimately this comes down to the ownership again. Rashford is playing injured because there is not enough depth in that squad. Can a manager make an honour better? We're not talking about an honour, James. Got no interest in that at all. Yeah. Laura says, there's too many injury-prone, mediocre players we don't invest enough in the team. Yeah, we just retain the same sort of people
49:16all the time you know
49:22we've been doing it for years I call it the Rojo effect we kept Marcus Rojo at the club probably two three years longer than we should have done but he was a left back on a cheap wage that if you replaced him it would have cost you 30 million 40 million pounds so we kept him yeah God, 50 minute show. What's going on? I'll tell you what, last time I looked at the clock, it was 30 minutes past 10 or half past 10. It's now 48 minutes past. Great show today. What day is it? Wednesday. So I'm not previewing Spurs today. That's tomorrow. Eight o 'clock show tonight. Yeah, back with eight o 'clock show tonight.
49:58Mo says, my sister said she went on a date with you back in the day. I doubt it. I doubt it. Nothing against your sister, but I don't think I've ever been on a date. Well, I have, but not like... I don't think I've ever asked anyone out to go on a date. Yeah, I don't think so. I might be wrong. Thanks, everyone, for watching. Stay safe. Take care. I'll speak to you all in a bit.
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