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1:43Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is the start of a new week. Your latest Manchester United transfer news. Are we about to sign a left-back? Could it be Balde of Barcelona? Big updates coming in on that. Injury updates as well. Apparently, Ahmad could be out for a month. But Leibn might not play until October. And Zerksi could be heading out the door. Does that mean a striker's coming in? Plus all the fallout and reaction to the weekend as we start another week and almost have to start the season again, don't we? A write-off this Premier League weekend for us.

2:15But look, lots to get into. I hope you're doing very, very well. Apologies for no Sunday night show last night, But I was in Manchester filming Stick to United with Wayne, which is an absolute cracker, which we've got for you going out tomorrow morning. So excited about that. But I hope you're all doing very, very well. Look at the camera. Yeah, we've sorted that out. Sometimes you've got to fall off the horse to get back on the horse and do well. So we dipped with the camera quality to rise with the camera quality. And hopefully that's a lesson for Man United as well. Hopefully we dipped at the weekend to rise better afterwards.

2:47But would you hold your breath on that? I would. I can hold my breath for a long time, if you know what you know. Right, let's get into the show. We're going to start off talking about the left-back. We're going to talk about Balde, of course. But I also want to just give you a little bit of a spoiler for what we've got later on in the show. We'll talk about the injury to Ahmad. We'll talk about the striker situation. We'll talk about where Man United go from here. I've got a positive spin on that. We'll talk about unbelievable criticism of Bruno Fernandes and Dorgou. We'll talk about that as well.

3:15Are people finally waking up to Luke Shaw in the media? I saw Gary Neville talking about him. Wayne Rooney was talking about him on Match of the Day. And also let's talk about the sad faces, the sad face reactions from the people that told us last week we were idiots. Apparently we're idiots last week for worrying about United. And they're all doing sad faces going, it's not fair. It's unbelievable. It's disgraceful. You know what? I don't normally did this, but I did a tour de force of all X accounts and all YouTubers and all X players who were calling us idiots and negative last week. And they're all saying what we were saying last week now, disgraceful, not ready, not good enough.

3:53But we were idiots for saying that last week. We were negative last week, weren't we? We were the problem last week saying we're not ready, we're not good enough, but now they're all doing it. Well, if we're idiots, what are they? What are they? Anyway, let's delve into it. Ball day. Let's start off with this. Big developments around ball day. Now, we ran a poll yesterday morning. Would you be happy signing Balde? The left back from Barcelona. Spanish international, I believe. He's won titles at Barcelona. He's only 22. He's only got two years left on his contract. He's got a George Mendez agent.

4:27Is that a good thing or a bad thing? We'll talk about that as well. Left out of the Barcelona side that won, I think they won 5-0 against Elche yesterday. Hansi Flick saying that he was left out because it was very clear he wasn't in the right headspace. Romano basically saying that this is a deal that can be done by Manchester United, but it'll be a big transfer fee and it'll be a big wage, which I would almost say, I don't understand this. Apparently he's only on 30 grand a week and he's only got two years left on his contract. So I don't know why it's a big wage and a big fee. I mean, Barcelona can go forth and prosper.

5:02They weren't willing to, you know, pay you the 25 million for Rashford. I mean, come on, lads. I know we're desperate and we're in the panic stations of the transfer window, but if we get our pants pulled down by Barcelona when they wouldn't take Rashford. We're going to look really, really silly. So we'll delve into that as well. But I think first and foremost,

5:22how do I word this? No, I'll just do it. How the hell are we not just signing Lewis Hall? I mean, he was brilliant yesterday for Newcastle. I know he gave away the penalty, but these things happen. He was brilliant for Newcastle yesterday. He's clearly the left back that we need. People say he wants to stay at Newcastle. I mean, every player wants to stay where they are until you sign them. I mean, not a lot of players do come out and say, I'm desperate to leave Newcastle. I want to sign for Man United. But I guarantee you, he'd love to come to Man United if we could do a deal with Newcastle. Obviously, Newcastle are saying he's not for sale.

5:58I heard what the manager said, but maybe he's not for sale anymore. Maybe in the last week of the window, he's not for sale anymore. But I definitely think he was for sale in June. I definitely think he was for sale in July. And I definitely think he was for sale a couple of weeks ago at the right price. I just think we've almost left it late on purpose so we can say he's not for sale. And I just want to say that he was the perfect left back. He's 22, he's homegrown, he's Premier League proven. He'd be a left back for the next 10 years. Yes, he's probably going to cost 70 million, 80 million pounds, but over 10 years, that's nothing.

6:32And I think United have missed the ball here. And I think they've done it on purpose. I think they've left it late in the window so they can say, well, he was never for sale, but he was for sale in June. He was for sale in July. He was going to be expensive, but if we'd have dropped£70 million on Newcastle's lap in mid-June, I think they'd have bit. I think they would have done. And I think it's a typical lack of ambition. You know, I can see this spin coming a mile off now. He was never for sale. Stop talking about Lewis Hall. I see the Glazerites on X. He was never for sale. We should stop talking about Hall.

7:04I think he was for sale. I think we've just left it late and now he's not for sale. But I think he is the left back that we should have gone for. And I think he's perfect for Man United. And I think we've blown it. I think we've blown it. And some people are saying that about other midfielders, whatever. Left back's what we've got to solve. I think we've blown it. So yes, if the whole deal's gone and it looks like it is, I think Balde, in my opinion, and I might get completely wrong on this, I think Balde is about as good as it's going to get. unless you're going to pull Trufford out of Bournemouth and I'd love that deal I'm not convinced that Rahm out of Bundesliga in his late 20s is better than a Balde deal I'm not convinced Anthony Robinson Premier League proven but 29 is better than Balde there is a huge element of risk with Balde I'm not going to lie there's a few things I don't like about the deal that we seem to have turned our back on we certainly did it with Balaba We seem to have forgotten about background checks on players.

8:09Have they had a bad season? Have they had loads of injuries? But this happens in the last two weeks of the window. So, yeah, I take on board people saying Bolday is coming from a different league, in a different system. He's had a few injury problems. Absolutely. But what do you expect with a week left on the window? The transfer window closes a week tomorrow. Like I was listening to, I was driving back from Manchester last night and I was listening to Transworld Express and they were talking about the Alvarez situation at Atletico Madrid. And they were basically saying probably stays at Atletico Madrid now because Atletico Madrid wants 150 million quid.

8:48You don't do 150 million pound deal in six days because even if you can, who do you replace him with? And it got me thinking, well, that's where we are. That's where we are in the window now. Lewis Hall wouldn't be able to happen in six days. Every deal you do now has to have an element of speed to it. Even Balaba last week only happens quickly because we'd done a lot of groundwork a year ago and he's desperate to leave. you can't just you can't do a good deal now you can't well you can't do a deal without risk now so Balde wants to leave Barcelona Barcelona wants to sell him you're not a desperately left back you can see that deal being possible but we've only got seven days left in the window so I don't know what people who don't want Balde are saying I don't know what your issue is yes he has got a few injuries.

9:41Yes, it's late in the window. Yes, he might not adapt to the league, but we're in that position now where it's almost, it's better than nothing. And he's certainly better than some of the other options. I mean, the biggest red flag for me, and I've said it about Balaba in the fact that I think it's a big red flag that he had a bad season. Hopefully it'll be fine, but I still have not heard anybody and I asked Wayne about it last night and you'll get the response on Stick to United tomorrow. I said to him, I mean, I don't want to ruin what Rooney said about Belaber, actually, so I'll leave it. But I did ask him that question.

10:16He was bad last season. How as a fan do you make me feel confident that he's going to be a good player when he had such a bad season? Brilliant answer. And he gave what he thought about the player.

10:28There's a bit in Stick to United yesterday that's going to go massive about players. I just can't believe. I've never heard it before. It's transfer related. I've never heard it before. and I can't say it because I don't know whether it's going to get edited out. It's just unbelievable on players at United. I can't say it because I don't know whether it's going to stay in and then I'll get in trouble. But ultimately, going back to Balde, my big red flag with Balde is there's an element of Di Maria because he didn't want to leave up until Friday. we've been linked to Balde for about three weeks and the news has always been he doesn't want to leave Barcelona, he doesn't want to leave Barcelona, he doesn't want to leave Barcelona.

11:16I always worry about players that don't want to leave Barcelona, don't want to leave Real Madrid, don't want to leave Bayern Munich, and then we sign them. And it's like, you want a player that wants to come to your club. I don't mean like I'm desperate to come to Man United, but like, you know, they're leaving and they want to come to Man United. It could be a little bit of a concern that he's, you know, does he really want to move to Manchester? Does he really want to come to Manchester United? Having said that, is that not the same with Ciumini? And with Ciumini, he wanted to stay at Real Madrid and he has stayed at Real Madrid.

11:53However, if Real Madrid had said they wanted to sell him, he was happy to come to Man United. So, look, I don't think this is the left back, but I think it might be the best left back in the shop and overarchingly, I mean, I had him in my career mode a couple of years ago. He is a good player. He has won La Liga. He has been a regular player for Barcelona. He is only 22. He's rapid and he is a good player. So look, I sort of look at Balde in the same way I look at Beléber and the same way I look at Santos and the same way I look at Tillemans. In fact, it's a perfect example. are these plan A or B?

12:34no they're probably plan C D and E but they might work out I think there's better players that we should have gone for in the midfield and at left back but I don't think Bolday's crap and he could work out there are some red flags with it so I sort of look at it like that I've seen a lot of criticism of the deal I've seen a lot of excitement about the deal I would lean towards the excitement because of where we are in the window. I mean, I wanted better. I wanted less risk. I wanted a bigger signing. I wanted Lewis Hall, but that's been messed up by the club. So you take what you can get and what's left, I think he's a good player.

13:17Of course, the flip side of the coin is he comes in, he doesn't settle, he gets injured and it's a massive waste of money and you're stuck with another player that you're going to make a loss on. But I don't really get what Romano is saying about big fee and big wages because he's not on a big wage and he's only got two years left on his contract and Barcelona need money. So I don't know where the big wage and the big fee is coming from. I mean, he shouldn't be commanding either, but we'll have to wait and see how that one develops. But look, be careful what you wish for because we're not getting Lewis Hall.

13:50And as I said, I think Balde might be the best option left in the shop. And people are waking up to Luke Shaw. You know, I saw on Gary Neville's podcast with Sky, He was saying that the defence is a big problem. I think I might actually have the direct quote for you here, which is always useful. Yeah, he said, Man United defensively, that defence isn't good enough, to be fair. They know it already. I doubt he's blaming heaven there. Sorry, I'm quoting Fergie's right ref on X here. So the quote is, Man United defensively, that defence isn't good enough, to be fair. They know it already. Well, that defence has got Harry Maguire in it.

14:28Luke Shaw and Masraoui and Heaven. Heaven's a kid. I don't really think you can say that Aiden Heaven's not good enough because he's not complete. He might not be ready, but he's not complete. Rooney was having a bit of a go at Luke Shaw on Match of the Day. I think people are waking up to what we've been talking about for a year. The only person who needs to bloody wake up is Ricky. I mean, I don't think he's ever going to wake up on Luke Shaw. But yeah, I mean, you do sometimes feel as a fan, you're six months ahead of the curve. We have been talking about Luke Shaw for a very long time. And again, I've got to be very careful because I'm just going to keep dropping stuff from stick to United.

15:08But Wayne said something about what Luke Shaw that we've been saying for a long time. Availability is nothing if you're not good. And I just don't think Luke Shaw offers anything for us. So we've got to sign a left back. And the defence is getting a lot of scrutiny at the moment as well. So, I mean, some people are saying we need a centre-back. You're laughing. You're joking. We're not getting a centre-back. We're not getting a right-back. We do need those positions, but we're not even looking at that. So we have to get a left-back in. Absolutely. 100%. Let me know your thoughts on that. We'll delve into that as well.

15:42Just on Ahmad, I got this yesterday. I don't know whether it's been confirmed by any actual journalists, But in fairness, I think it came from, well, I know I got told it came from that Sully talks. Now, I don't think that account knows anything about transfers. And I'm not, some people seem to get really offended by this. But I don't think anybody knows anything about transfers. You know, I'm not being offensive. I think people are trying to be ITKs around transfers. And I think everybody's been exposed this summer. You know, we didn't sign Kone. I said we were in talks with Kone. We didn't sign him.

16:19and the Tillerman stuff we had 24 hours was just pure look. I don't want to be an ITK. So I don't believe anybody about transfer stuff this summer. But when it comes to injuries, as I've always said, I think that particular account, in fact, I know that particular account, does have a mole in at Carrington. So they'll know when people are turning up for medicals and they'll know when people are injured because if you've got somebody who works at Carrington who is monitoring what's going on, you can see Ahmad not training. You can see Ahmad, you know. So apparently Ahmad's out for six weeks. I think it's always difficult to say it's six weeks or it's a month or it's three weeks or whatever.

17:02But that would more or less... And also I think with injuries as well, you don't know whether it's six weeks till he can train or it's three weeks till he can train. And then he's got three weeks of... I think people forget with injuries, is like Sky is saying that Balaba could be back for the middle of September, Manchester Derby. But is he back next week and then two weeks of training because he's not had a pre-season? Or is he back training the week before the Manchester Derby? In which case, it's going to be two or three weeks of... You know when you come back from an injury, you've then got to do the conditioning.

17:36So I don't know. It's always difficult. But look, the reality is, again, Again, it's something that you as fans and us as a community have discussed. Have we had a good transfer window? I think it's been pathetic. These sort of things, I'm not going to sit here and go, oh, no, it's the end of the world. Ahmad's injured because that's going to happen. It's going to happen. Look at how slow we were on Saturday as well. Like, think about it like this. You look at the Brentfords and the Brightons, and I heard Deserby say this. He knew a week ago when they played a pre-season game against Hoffenheim that they weren't ready physically.

18:18Now, he's got to take the blame for that. But I watched a lot of games this weekend and a lot of teams were physically on a different level. Why is that? It's an easy answer. You don't need to ask a coach or an ex-player. The reason everybody's at different levels physically is because Keith Andrews and Herzler have obviously decided as part of their preseason plan that started in July, they're going to put a big emphasis on running and intensity and fitness. United clearly put a bigger emphasis on ball work and we heard Tillemans talking about that the problem with that is on the opening weekend of the season you can get absolutely smothered and we saw Hull do that to us and we saw Brentford do it to Spurs and we saw Brighton do it to Villa so what impact does that have on your injury record then some none I don't know but we are going to pick up injuries we're going to pick up injuries and Ahmad again in a way a little bit like Hull, do you want to know the problems before the window closes?

19:22Well, it doesn't mean they're going to put their hand in their pocket, but losing to Hull and losing Ahmad for a month is an indicator of what's going to happen. And it happening before the window closes, at least we can say to the ownership, well, look, this is going to keep happening. Are you going to do something or not? I'm not convinced they are going to do anything, but these things are going to happen. We are going to lose games and we are going to lose players to injury. So I don't think we're unlucky that Ahmad's injured. I think Ahmad's unlucky, but Ahmad does pick up injuries. So do other players.

19:54Mason Mount picks up injuries. So look, we're going to have these problems. And of course, anything happens to Mbermo in the next two weeks, you haven't got a right winger. So there are other areas of the team. Everyone goes, we need a left back and we need a striker. There are other areas of the team that when injuries hit, we will be weak in as well. So prepare yourself for that. Talking about just sticking with transfers for a minute, We have got Lacey, of course, and hopefully he's going to get a lot of game time. I think he could be a big positive for United. There is talk of Xerxes going to Villa, which would mean United need to bring a striker in.

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22:38I'm repeating myself. How he hasn't figured out he needed to leave in June, I don't know. And how United haven't knocked on the door and said leave, I don't know. I don't know how this situation has been left so late in the window for a player that's clearly not part of the plans and United clearly need to move on. I don't know why it's been left so late in the window and I don't know how it helps us either. I don't know. Maybe I'm missing the obvious here, but why would you not loan Xerxes in June and give yourself three months to replace him instead of loaning him with seven days left in the window and giving yourself seven days to replace him?

23:18It just doesn't make any sense to me why we've left it this late. And also, when you look at the Hull game, if we'd moved Xerxes out before the Hull game and we had a striker in, maybe we don't lose the Hull because we start the striker and he scores a goal in the first 10 minutes. So these types of decisions, again, cost you points at the start of the season. I think there's an incredible stat in the last five years that our points accumulation in the first three games is shit. And that has to be a direct correlation between bad start to the season and bad transfer window. How many times have we bought Casemiro, Agate, Amrabat?

23:56How many times have we had players that we need to be starting on the pitch at Old Trafford being revealed to the crowd? Like, how many times have we bought players and they're not actually available for the first three games of the season? And it's a lot. It's a lot. And I think with the striker situation, we make five subs against Hull and Xerxes doesn't get used. If Xerxes wasn't here and we'd replaced him, I think the replacement striker might have started against Hull. I certainly think he would have been used and maybe that changes the score. So I'm not making excuses for Hull and the loss, but were we ready for that game?

24:31No. So look, Zerksi does need to go this week and Zerksi does need to be replaced this week. The question is, we've just spent a few minutes talking about who the left back's going to be and how seven days will go very, very quickly. Who's the striker going to be? I would say normally it won't be Ivan Toni because he's very expensive wages-wise and he's got a court case coming up. It won't be Mateta because Palace will want a transfer fee and he failed a medical in January. But this late in the window, I don't know about you, I think United's ideology is in the bin. I think that, oh, we're not going to overpay.

25:09We're not going to panic buy. We're not going to go for players that don't want to come here. We're going to go Premier League proven. We're not going to pay silly wages. I think that there isn't a striker out there that's not going to be a panic buy where we're going to have to pay over the odds who might be a risk. I can't think of anybody unless it... I mean, I don't want to... I wouldn't be surprised if it's Liam DeLapp. There's just a part of me that just thinks it's going to be Liam DeLapp. And to everybody who says it won't be Liam DeLapp, I really did not think we would be signing Santos Tillemans, Balaba and Balde this summer.

25:49So I can't sit here without any certainty and say it won't be Liam De Lappe. I think anything's possible in this last week. Look, I genuinely said anything's possible with Balaba, but I really don't think we'll go for him. And we haven't really been in any meaningful talks with Balaba for a very long time. Obviously we were last week. Wilcox likes Liam De Lappe. Liam De Lappe needs a club. Chelsea loved doing business with us. I just wouldn't be surprised if we did. So look, I don't know. I don't know what happens with the striker. We'll have to wait and see. All the tens we bought and played out of position to cater to Bruno, Donny van der Beek, Ericsson, Xerxi, McTominay, and Kunja is next.

26:31Oh, mate, I have to just jump in on this. I find this absolutely incredible. It's almost like, you know, you're like hipster. hipster, hipsters have like a really, you know, Sangari is the hipsters take. And I bow down to the hipsters. Sometimes the hipsters get it right. Hipster is somebody who's like, they spot something and they say, this is a great idea. And, you know, I think 50-50, they get it wrong, they get it right. The amount of times I've heard about some player who's playing in the Portuguese second league, who's going to be the next Rodri, and then you never hear of them again. But in fairness to Sangari, the hipsters, and loads of you in this community said about Sangari, oh my God, I mean, he looked absolutely brilliant against Brentford.

27:20Brilliant. Energy, intensity, tackles, box to box, breaking into the box. Sangari looks brilliant. But in a Man United shirt, he'd probably be just jogging around. I mean, sometimes it is about the way you play, but Sangari looks great. So sometimes the hipsters are correct. I don't think this opinion I'm about to give you is hipster. I just think it's lazy. I think it's ridiculous. So we lose to Hull and Bruno Fernandes is the problem now, again. And I'm sort of like, we can't win a title with Bruno Fernandes. Bruno Fernandes is why we're not good. The guy's about to win PFA award tonight. he broke the Premier League assist record last season the only reason we're in third is because of Bruno Fernandes apparently we can't win the league title without Bruno Fernandes well maybe Liverpool couldn't win a league title with Steven Gerrard I mean but if you take Steven Gerrard out of that Liverpool team they weren't going to win the league anyway and if you take Bruno Fernandes out of the Man United team we're probably going to get relegated I just don't get this angle about blaming Bruno Fernandes He had a crap game on Saturday.

28:34Absolutely no doubt about it. But the last time I checked, Bruno Fernandes is not the guy who is not buying decent players this summer transfer window. He's not the guy not getting rid of the shit. And he's not the guy showing a lack of ambition at the top of this football club. I think Bruno Fernandes is the least of our concerns. I think if you are doing content, writing tweets or blaming Bruno Fernandes for Man United's current situation, I think you need to go on holiday and have a think. because I could write a list of things that are a problem ahead of Bruno Fernandes and I could probably write a book about it.

29:08I think there is a conversation to have about whether we can play a possession, patient game of football with Bruno Fernandes, but we haven't got the players to play that anyway. I just do not get the Bruno Fernandes argument at all. Like, it's just oxygen wasters. Like, talk about the owners. Talk about the board. Talk about the budget. Talk about the summer. Talk about the last 10 years. Talk about the next 10 years. If I was Bruno Fernandes, I'd actually be sat there thinking, if Bayern Munich, PSG, Real Madrid or Barcelona came in this week, I might leave. And then see what happens to this football club.

29:48I just, I cannot get my head around blaming Bruno Fernandes after the game at the weekend. I think that is wild football analysis. Absolutely ridiculous football analysis. He had a bad game against Hull. But spending time talking about Bruno Fernandes after losing to Hull in the transfer window we've just had with the owners we've got, no wonder they succeed. I mean, are people actually... Is this another payroll angle? Like you get paid to slag off Bruno to distract from the real issue at the club. I find it wild. Absolutely wild. And we can't win the league with Bruno Fernandes. Well, we fucking won't win it without him.

30:35It's just mad. I don't even get the angle on that one, Kiel. I really, really don't. I think it's just absolutely ridiculous. I also think, just to add a personal one in as well, I actually think Dorgu Pajalon is a joke as well. I think in the game against Hull we'd have been better off putting Dorgue back to left back and taking Luke Shaw off and I've not heard it from that many people but I think we would have done I think Dorgue is just such a scapegoat oh it's Dorgue shit so we can get Rashford on Dorgue this, Dorgue that I don't think Dorgue was any worse than any other player on that pitch and yet he seems to just go from extremities he's total shit it's Ballon Dorgue he's total shit and I'm like he's a young player like three or four others in that squad who we need to be patient with and we treat him like he's bloody Marcus Rashford or Luke Shaw or Harry Maguire like he is not the problem in that team far from it he's a player that needs nurturing in that team

31:47absolutely some fans do everything but blame the Ineos and the Glazers says John United Kiel Robinson says you'll see it eventually mate can we move away from Bruno Fernandes because I know you got it right about the Labour but we won't see it eventually he's been our best player for six years he's just won Prim League Player of the Year how can your best player and one of the best players in the league be the problem in a club that's been run into the ground by the owners I find it massively offensive I find it massively disrespectful. And I think you're better than that, Kiel. I think putting the blame for Man United's poor form at the feet of Bruno Fernandes, we don't deserve Bruno Fernandes.

32:28And we'll wake up in the end. What, when he's like 34 and he falls off? Come on. It's madness to me. If we get the lap, Chelsea will get Watkins, says Pete Phillips. I think Watkins is off to Qatar, Saudi. I don't always agree with you, all your takes, But as a community, we need to really give you your props because you called this window since day one, including all roads lead to belabor. Great job, says Simon. I mean, I don't I'm not in it for that. I love the community. I love I love the real conversation. I mean, I love Kiel. I love those sort of conversations. I respect it. I just don't agree with it.

33:04I love those conversations because they're not the sort of conversations that really happen anywhere else. But this is what I mean. You know, if Rio Ferdinand says something, do the opposite. it? Was it not at the end of last week when we were being called idiots by Rio for being negative about the transfer window? You know, we're idiots. United about a good transfer window. They're doing the right things. You lose to Hull. As soon as he said we're idiots, I wish I'd said 2-0 to Hull. I'm hearing it's Qatar. It's definitely going to be Ineos. I don't care what anyone says. Give him the contract.

33:37Give him the money. That's Solskjaer fucked. You're idiots if you're moaning about this transfer window. We're definitely losing to Hull. But I don't take any satisfaction in seeing Man United lose. Absolutely not. I want us to win. And hopefully we'll win a bet against Ipswich and Everton and Man City. I want Man United to win. But what does baffle me is the people that didn't see this coming. You know, the people who are calling the transfer window a seven out of 10 or an eight out of 10 and they're calling Belaber signing of the summer and Santos, the next Casemiro and Tillemans is going to be Bruno from deep.

34:22And, you know, this is an amazing summer transfer window. And it amazes me after well over 10 years of this, that people still don't see that nothing's changed. Journalists who follow the club around, top reds who, you know, apparently are better fans than we are, sitting there wiping the Glazers' arse again and, you know, pretending everything's okay. That's why some of us end up being called negative and toxic because I just don't buy it. I don't buy the optimism. I don't buy that everything's changing. I think Ineos if you had a fence at the front of your garden that was rotten and falling down but you went down B &Q and you bought some nice paint and you painted it Ineos are the paint and the glazes are the broken fence I just think this is a lick of paint over a broken fence and

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37:27Hull shocked me. I didn't expect to lose the Hull. I thought maybe at some point in September and October, this result would happen. It's happened way before I thought it was going to happen, but definitely we're going to lose games. Definitely we're going to have more of those games like that. Definitely this window has been pathetic and definitely we're going to get injuries. And once the window closes, we've got to deal with this. We can't do anything. No point moaning about the transfer window after September the 1st, it's closed. No point moaning about the defence or the attack or left back if we lose to whoever we're playing in October.

38:08The time to be vocal has been all summer. And to those people who have been vocal about it, fair play, well done. You've got it absolutely spot on. Absolutely spot on. So look, I find it It's stunning that so many people didn't see it coming, but you don't get a medal for it. It's just common sense. We've been on this cycle for so long, and I think it's almost like, I think this summer, it's almost become the, you're a real fan if you're optimistic. But my theory is there is no such thing as a real fan. There's just experience. And I can't believe that people thought we were going to have a good season off a good transfer window.

39:01We've had a bad transfer window and the season will be what it's going to be. What I would say, though, and I have said this, I haven't seen anybody really predict Man United finish higher than third. Even the most optimistic people have got us in third. And I said third. I think that as much as we will lose games like Hull we'll still finish in the top four and people don't understand that they're like well how can you say it's been a bad transfer window if we finish in the top four have you watched the opening Premier League weekend Villa have lost their complete spine that's them out the top five Spurs are on a rebuild Chelsea are on a rebuild.

39:51Liverpool are on a rebuild. I think United walk into the top four. Even if we lose 10 games, I still think we'll walk into the top four. But that to me is not a good season because the standards of Man United is it shouldn't be about top four. I used to take the piss out of Arsenal and Wenger and the fourth place cup. I'm not going to sit here and say fourth place is good for Man United. We're meant to be good. The standards of Man United, we're never winning a title under this regime we're never winning a title and that's where my frustration and you know standards come from but I'm absolutely convinced we'll get top four um I just I think the standard of the Premier League there'll be nobody consistent enough apart from Arsenal and Man City to push us out of the top four um but is that is that because we're a well-run club or is that because everybody else hasn't caught up yet I mean the season after next maybe Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea next season are like Man City and Arsenal now.

40:52Maybe they're ready and we fall out. We won't keep getting away with summers like this. We won't. If we are going to stop buying best-in-class players, we won't get away with this for more than a couple of years. The only reason we got top five last year was because a lot of teams were shitter than us. And I can see this season, we might get away with it again because there's a lot of teams that might be less consistent than us. But look, there's a lot of people saying I'm deluded. We have got Champions League football as well. It could really, it could disintegrate, but I still think we'll get top four, definitely.

41:30Jokeres and De Lapp were plan A and B versus Sesco. So fingers crossed. Arsenal made the message clear to Martinelli. Why faff around with Xerxi? Says Joe. I don't know. We just don't do it. I don't know. we should do swap plus fee Watkins Xerxi Villa Watkins is going to Saudi to earn half a million pounds a week he ain't coming to Man United Glenn United's ideology ideology for this summer should have been in the bin from the start it's done as no good really whatsoever says Emily Derry thank you very much um if Xerxi's to be played playing him as a false nine is preferred and I don't know if that will work for United, says Tristan.

42:08There's just no place for him. Told you all you are supporting the Glazers United and not Man United, says Sarvish. As long as you keep believing you are supporting Man United by backing this team and Carrick, Glazers are not going away, says Sarvish. I do want to talk about Carrick in a minute very quickly, actually. I worry we recruit players great for underdog teams with less experience of unlocking low blocks. That plus the shaky claim that we get deeply into their background psychology is a major flaw, says WG. Look, the Belaber I saw 18 months ago would have been really useful against Hull at the weekend because he's quick and he carries the ball.

42:46And I think that would have been useful in a game like that. We were so static and slow and nobody could move with the ball centrally. But that's if you get the very, very best Belaber, which we haven't really seen for a year. He's also a prospect. The criticism of Santos is somewhat flawed as it is with Dorgu and Mainu because they are prospects and heaven. Beléber comes in as another prospect. There's too many prospects in that team and there's not enough leaders. I mean, Luke Shaw's a leader. He's coming out after the game with his arms crossed, talking about an excellent season. We don't have enough leaders.

43:18Beyond Bruno Fernandes, there really isn't any leaders in that team that you're going to look up to and go, they know what they're on about. Balde played about 30 games for Barcelona last season. Time isn't in our favour. We have to bring him in. He's been training and playing with players much better than ours. Why are people dismissing him? Good point, William. Could we use Rashford as part of a swap deal? This is Irish Ghost. I don't think they need Rashford at Barcelona anymore. Looking at them last night, Anthony Gordon came on and did really well. They've got Adi Amy as well. I don't think we need him, to be honest.

43:54But I would do that deal. If that was the deal to make it happen, I would. Because I think a left back is more important than having Rashford. But I think Rashford stays now. The biggest worry I have about Bolday is why does Barcelona want to sell him? He's the starting left back. He's a product of their youth system. And Barca always find ways around FFP anyway, says Connie. If we don't get him, I don't know where we're going, Connie. We know in the realm of beggars, can't be choosers. Bolday will need him. Unfortunately, the board has put themselves in this position. It is disappointing, says Ray.

44:24Hope you're doing well, Ray. Thank you very much. And thanks for being a member. Morning, Mark. And the chat, hope you're doing well. You look tired, says Forza. I am a bit tired because I didn't get in till midnight last night. It was a long day yesterday, but very good content. And I enjoyed doing the watch along from the Stick to United studio. Hot take. After yesterday, I'd spend£80 million on Hall, says Ray. The issue with the Lewis Hall thing is really simple. You've got some United fans out there who don't want us to overpay. This is where this argument's flawed, right? If Newcastle said today you can have Lewis Hall for£80 million, why wouldn't you spend it?

45:01He's 22. He'd be here for 10 years. that's 8 million a year he's also the best option in the shop and we need the best option in the shop and we didn't go for Kone and went for Balaba because Balaba's 22 and Kone's in his mid-20s we prefer prospects and the data will say Lewis Hall you got the data you got Favell you got Wilcox you got Barada you got Carrick everybody wants Lewis Hall the only reason we won't buy him is because he's going to cost 70 or 80 million pounds welcome to Bang United everything says get that player but the owners say lack of ambition I'm just 20 years ago we would buy a player and nobody would talk about the fee or the wage 20 years later the Glazers have turned half our fan base into accountants who won't do deals because they're worried about the money and yet the club's in a billion pound of debt the irony is incredible Mark we should deal with them the same way they deal with us over Rashford alone with an option to buy I've heard a few people saying we should treat Barcelona like Barcelona treated us with Rashford.

46:07The problem with that is that's like a puppy having a fight with a lion. Barcelona are better than us. Why not swap Xerxi and Watkins? Is wage the problem? Says Ronnie. Yes. Everyone talks about City losing Rodri, but losing Casemiro is just important. Not replacing him properly is unforgivable. Marlowe, you know, this is an amazing community, mainly. And within three minutes, there was people in the watch along saying, we really miss Casemiro. I waited until 90 minutes to judge that, but they were right. Defensively set pieces were crap. Offensively set pieces were crap. The tackles in the middle were crap.

46:52I think I would confidently say if Casemiro had played that game, we wouldn't have conceded both those goals maybe one and I think we would have scored we would at least have drawn that game with Casemiro but Casemiro needed replacing it's not letting Casemiro go that's the problem he did need replacing and we haven't done it we had a load of corners against Hull as well and all they did is where's Harry Maguire? where's Harry Maguire? because last season you've got Maguire Sesco and Casemiro you can't deal with all three at the weekend it was like where's Harry Maguire? Deal with Harry Maguire and their set pieces of crap.

47:31G'day all. I hope you have a mega day. It's hard to stay positive following the whole game, says Michael. Well, yeah. You've just got to look forward, I suppose, and hope that at least we've got the transfer window to distract us. JC, welcome to the Members Club. Thank you so much to all our members over the last week or so as well. I hope you're enjoying being a member. New Fantasy Premier League video out on Wednesday. New Members video with Rooney on Thursday, which is brilliant. That's the one with the chocolate in it. I thought it was the members one last week, but it's this week. Confirmed.

48:03So yeah, thank you everyone who's joining the members club. It's well worth it. Click and join and get involved. Thank you very much. Barca are better than us. I thought they signed a buy and reject manager, says Arjun. Always considered myself extremely lucky to support a team with the success United had whilst Sir Alex was in charge. Never imagined the club would slowly fall to the standards that are in place at the moment, says Jason. Thank you very much, Jason. Rishad says, we've been buying players at a good value for the first time in ages. The project will take time. The bigger issue is having Carrick at the helm.

48:37What's the vision? How much time are we giving him? I saw a clip from Darren Ferguson, who is Sir Alex Ferguson's son. I think the highest level he managed that was Peter, so you might know him from that. He basically said, that it was a bad performance against Hull, but Michael Carrick, he liked how calm Michael Carrick was off on camera. Look, I think Carrick in the press conferences is boring. And I think in the match reaction after Hull, he was boring. It's great if you've got a manager like Ranić or Amorim or Mourinho, who are box office in the press conferences. It's an added bonus. I don't care if Michael Carrick is boring in his press conference and uninspiring when we lose, as long as Man United don't lose and play good football.

49:34Michael Carrick is Michael Carrick. I'm not going to be dishonest and say that I find him interesting in press conferences because I don't. And I'm not going to be overly... Well, I'm not going to lie. He got us into third place and it was fantastic. All I hope with Carrick is, is what I said yesterday morning. if he was tame after the game, I hope in the dressing room, he tore them down a peg or two. Like, if he didn't go on them in the dressing room, we're in big trouble. If how he spoke to us after the game publicly was how he spoke to them in the dressing room, we're in big trouble. Because those players are players that will blame Carrick.

50:20I don't like saying that, but they will. These players have sacked multiple managers. These players will blame somebody else rather than themselves. And unfortunately, Deleu, Harry Maguire, Luke Shaw, Bruno Fernandes, Marcus Rashford, even the likes of Martinez, Maynou, I suppose Cunha. And I mean, they've all, some of them have sacked more managers than others, but they've all been there when managers have been let down. So Carrick's got to find a way to be stern and authoritative. Does it bother me that he was a little bit... What bothered me... The one that bothered me about Carrick was when he came out, when he was asked about a lack of passion and he went, come on, he got really angry about it.

51:11But there was a lack of passion. There was a lack of energy. And the fact that he's angry about it might be a good thing because it obviously hits a nerve, but there was a lack of that. Do you think they will go big now after loss to Hull? I don't know, Smith. I think three years ago, the Glazers would go big. They did it with Casemiro and Anthony after we lost the first two games of the season. Ineos are adamant that they're not going to do that. So I don't know. Pathetic transfers. And you know when this window closes, this is our team until next summer. We don't do business in January. It'll be a long season, says Marek.

51:47Look, Ronan Keating's loving it. because this season's going to be a roller coaster, just the same as last. There'll be ups and downs. I said to you on Saturday, we'll win the Manchester Derby. I got laughed at. No one thought we were going to beat Arsenal and Man City when Carrick came in, and we did comfortably. But he still lost to Leeds. He still lost to 10 men Newcastle. That's who we are. We struggle against low blocks, and we excel against teams that play a high line. so we're set up better to beat Man City Arsenal and Liverpool than we are to beat Hull and Leeds and teams that park the bus so it will be James says do you think Truffaut's in the conversation I wish he was I really do like him but I've never heard anything about Truffaut all summer remember when finishing third back to back in the early 2000s it was a disaster now it's a great achievement that's how far standards have fallen says Warrior of Sparta oh the standards I don't know how you can get criticised for saying that this club's a joke.

52:55Because that's not my fault. That's not your fault. It's learnt behaviour. Players and Sir Alex Ferguson literally taught us that second place was a bad season. And just because some of us can remember that, we get called negative. It's standards. I think we're quite tame on the people that say it's a good summer I think we're quite tame on the people that call us negative I think they're the problem I think they've lost their way I think they've forgotten who Man United are but you know what everyone's entitled to their opinion they call us negative they call us toxic but we're the ones who remember the standards of the club they're the ones who've forgotten we need better mentality from our players when we play teams like Hull keep United standards high he says learn kids and Emily Derry says if the fans could see what needed to be done with the summer you can be sure our rivals knew and yet again despite all the warning and prep time we're not ready it's incompetence well Emily did you see the Hull manager coming out and saying they knew exactly how to exploit Man United just the same Amorim did the week before just the same as managers said against I think Amorim last year as well like with all due respect managers from lower level Premier League clubs know how to beat Man United They know how to beat us because we don't really have a vision.

54:16We don't really have a style of play and we rely on moments. So it's almost like if you can keep Bruno Fernandes quiet, double up on Rashford, they won't do anything. Hurt them on set pieces, work harder than them in the midfield and you'll win the game. It's not rocket science. Mark, just sack Ricky for sure and Maguire supports us die. We're not sacking Ricky. We've got barely any creativity. If it wasn't for Bruno in our squad, this transfer window would have been mediocre at best I worry about when Fernandes that was from DSG I worry about when Fernandes does leave the board will sign a cheap prospect says Benjamin and Barcelona would never sell a 20 year old prospect if he is Barcelona level I think that's a red flag as well says Shimsy that's probably not a bad point Morning Mark other clubs can buy and sell well because they are respectful and sensible do you think United's reputation has improved or gotten worse in the market since Ineos came in says James I don't like I think Ineos come across as very arrogant without knowing what they're on about.

55:12I don't know that other clubs would respect us. I don't know. We all know who's to blame when these owners are going to take some responsibility, says Ginger Red. Thank you very much for that. And weren't Shaw's post-match comments almost having a dig at Carrick? We need to focus more on our strengths. Wild, says Patrick Lynch. Hope you're doing well, Patrick. I thought Luke Shaw's post-match interview was a waste of time. I think if you know anything about body language, it was an absolute joke. I don't think he was yeah I don't think he was very good in fact I think from a from a fan confidence point of view every post-match interview was shit Bruno was talking about making the same mistakes as last season which is sort of throwing your team under the bus and saying you're not a very good captain and Carrick's not a very good coach I mean if you're saying in public we didn't press we didn't do this we didn't do that same as last season whose fault is it then?

56:10It's not the fans fault why didn't we press for 20 minutes? Why didn't we go and win duels? Is it not the captain's job to tell him to do that? Should the players not be doing it? Should Carrick not be telling them to do it? You got Luke Shaw stood there like that saying everything opposite his body saying you got Michael Carrick coming out basically saying onwards and upwards it's only the first game somebody needed to come out and be honest but I think they're terrified of being honest if I'm honest I'm going to get told off Glazers only react when they're shitting themselves says Sarbis I'm not Carrick out because he's mid or he lost a hole but because he saved the Glazers and sacking managers makes them shit themselves says Sarbis I mean I just on the Carrick question I was going to say this I just think Carrick is just way down the list way down the list he is an inexperienced coach who maybe shouldn't have been given the job shock horror it's going to be a rollercoaster I mean he's not Ancelotti, is he?

57:08He's not Jose Mourinho. He's not Luis Enrique. He's never managed in the Premier League as a full-time manager. He's certainly never managed in the Champions League. Carrick being, you know, up and down is exactly what I expected. But he 100 % needed a better summer transfer winner than this. So I look at Carrick and I go, look, he might win his next six games. He's that type of manager. but there'll definitely be another Hull at some point. Even last season, we still had Newcastle and Leeds, which were disappointing, and West Ham. So we had a great run last year, but there were still three or four games where you went, that's crap.

57:48So Carrick doesn't bother me. It's the backing of Carrick that bothers me. It's the decision to give him the job that bothers me. And it's, well, it's the people running the club that bother me, really. You said if we'd replaced Casemiro, we'd have drawn. and he also said Tonali was the closest replacement yet Spurs got beat by Brentford. Thoughts? Yeah, Lorcan, I think you're playing a game of chess with Monopoly pieces. I don't know. You can't take Tonali's performance against Brentford and say that he couldn't have replaced Casemiro against Hull. I think there's too many permutations. Yeah, you can't do that.

58:28Would I take Tonali over Tillemans and Santos every day of the week every day of the week do I think Spurs were crap on Sunday on Saturday yes but yeah I think there's too many things there Barca are better than us I thought they signed a buy and reject manager says Arjun thank you thank you so much for all the comments like you I remember Colford and Anvaran Keane York buys no debate on cost recognised that United were biggest and richest because of success so we could afford to pay end offices to CHC WG Look, we recorded Sticks United last night. It's going out tomorrow. It's a brilliant episode.

59:05There's loads of good stuff in there. I can drop little bits that I said. I said to Wayne, straight to his face yesterday, I said, Wayne, we wouldn't buy you anymore. What does that make you think, as a United legend, someone that wants United to do well, and as a top player that you were at Everton, United wouldn't buy you anymore? So how do we replicate success of the past when we're wiping away the possibility of bringing a player like you in anymore? We just wouldn't buy you anymore. And his answer was quite interesting, but I doubled down. I said, we wouldn't buy you anymore. We wouldn't go and spend over£100 million to buy Wayne Rooney from Everton now.

59:51We just wouldn't do it. So we're walking down. We're walking in the fog. Nobody knows what's going to happen. We're lost because we're not doing the things that we used to do to make us successful. that's not true though that's not factually true says HXC well it's my truth if you want to be in my opinion deluded and think we would write a cheque for 140 million pounds for an 18 year old from Everton and compete with Newcastle who are also offering the same money I don't think we would do that in 2026 I don't think we would write a cheque Look, I know Rooney costs 40, but today he's going to cost over£100 million.

1:00:40We won't write checks for over£100 million anymore. And we won't compete with people to write checks for£100 million anymore. I mean, never say never. Maybe we would, but I don't think we would. I don't think we would. We are back at 2 o 'clock. We are 7 o 'clocking it tonight because I'm doing the Chelsea game. I'm really looking forward to watching Chelsea because we've seen... It's another team that could compete for top four. I'm not worried about Villa I'm not worried about Spurs Liverpool I'm a bit uncertain about at the moment We need Chelsea not to have a good start to the season But we will see you at 7 o 'clock live Thanks everybody for watching Stay safe, take care Great show this morning As always, you're absolutely brilliant Welcome to the new members Of which there has been five of you today So welcome, get involved in the extra content And I'll speak to you all later Take care

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