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1:26Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United news as we send a big message to Michael Carrick. Start Lenny Yoro. You must do this. Now is the time. The results haven't been very good. The performance have been even worse. But what will give you time is bringing in players like this and building a future. Stop being reliant on old favourites like Maguire and Shaw and start giving people a chance if you really want to build a future. We'll talk about that. We'll also talk about potential January transfer activity and articles come out from Chris Wheeler talking about the safety level of Michael Carrick as well at Manchester United at the moment.

2:07We'll talk about injuries. What's the latest on the players that are going to miss the game at the weekend as well? Also, a little bit on Xerxes. There was something else I wanted to discuss. What was it? Let me just give you a breakdown. A little bit on Gabriel, a little bit on Martinez's contract situation as well. Lots to get into on the show tonight. I'm excited. Also, just want to say, I nearly congratulated myself there. I genuinely think we dropped one of the best videos we've ever done on the United Stand today. I feel like it's Christmas. I feel like we gifted you something that when we started this 10 years ago, I never thought it would be possible.

2:47to sit and interview Wayne Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov on this channel exclusively. I mean, come on, round of applause. We're literally creating the news with the likes of Berbatov and Rooney. Love all the feedback. Love the fact that you all loved it. Loved actually doing it. We filmed that about two weeks ago. Absolutely brilliant episode. Loved it. If you have not seen it again, make sure you do. If you have seen it again, make sure you watch it again. And remember, you can listen to it on Stick to United. if you've got a big drive or work or whatever like that, or you just want to listen to it, it is available on podcasts such as Spotify and Apple.

3:26Fantastic. Also, before we get into the show, Beth made her debut on the fan debate on Overlap today. So please do pop over there and leave a nice comment on there. Some shitty twats out there, to be honest with you, talking absolute crap. It's the first time United Standard have ever had anybody on the fan debate. I thought Beth was absolutely fantastic. and make sure you're giving her support because she deserves it. I thought it was very, very good. Loved it. So big moves for United stand today. Loved that. And you all deserve it because you've built this community. Right. Let's start off about Leni Yorou.

4:00We're sort of ahead of the game here a little bit with Leni Yorou because we've been talking about this for quite a while. But this Leni Yorou against Belgium yesterday, didn't watch it, was never going to watch France against Belgium, but numerous people said he was absolutely brilliant. He played 90 minutes. Apparently he had a brilliant game. He had the most touches in the game. He had the most defensive contributions in the game. He won all his ground jewels. He won all his aerial jewels. And he apparently was absolutely fantastic. Nine out of nine jewels won. Massively impressed the French media fan base and Zidane.

4:34So big shout out to Leni Oro because he can't even get a game at Manchester United. And he's there putting in a man of the match performance for France. So it's incredible that Zinedine Zidane, the French manager, is giving Jorow time. These are not the world champions, by the way. This is a team that, you know, underachieved at the World Cup. He was absolutely incredible, apparently. This, I think, is perfectly well-timed. We will lose Leni Jorow if we keep picking Maguire and Martinez. We will. He will go. It is year three at Manchester United. He has now been given game time by Zidane. he'll be hungry for more, but he won't get it sat on the bench for Manchester United.

5:13Michael Carrick's got to start starting him. I don't necessarily mean drop Maguire or Martinez, but he's got to start giving him minutes because the next international break is in November. And if Jorah doesn't play many games, he won't get picked. And then you get knock on the door from the agent saying it's year three. Look at Jacquet at Liverpool. He's been there three months. He's starting for France and he's starting for Liverpool. Jorah's been here for three years, he's on the fucking bench. And I agree with DJ United, Zidane can spot real talent. So I think Carrick has got to start giving Yoro minutes.

5:45Now, look, I'm not a contradictory hypocrite here. Of course, if you pick Yoro, you may well get mistakes. But that's part of the parcel, isn't it? Do I want 34-year-old Harry Maguire thinking about signing a new contract at the end of the season and Yorro asking to leave? Or do I want Harry Maguire heading off somewhere else like the MLS and Yorro being our starting centre-back? You know, respect to Maguire. He's turned things around. He's been a good servant to the club in a really shit time. But Lenny Yorro is the future. And at some point, you've got to go, look, Carrick, what is it you're doing?

6:21The performances are crap. The results are crap. You can literally buy yourself some time here by starting to build something. Because I tell you what, if you draw to Fulham and you play shit, but you've got Lenny Yorou in the team at centre-back and you've got Maynou in the midfield and Balaber and maybe Dorgue on the wing. It's a lot more forgiving than Luke Shaw, Harry Maguire, Marcus Rashford and all the experienced players that have been here for years and years and years. And I'm not digging those players out. I'm just saying a lot of those players I've mentioned, lost 7-0 to Liverpool years ago.

6:54New players will get more time. And look, I don't have the answer to this question. Will Michael Carrick start thinking about picking Lenny Oro? No, I don't think he will. I think he'll stick with Maguire and Martinez. And when De Ligt comes back, it'll be Maguire or De Ligt. I don't see a pathway for Lenny Oro, but I think this is something to drop it into your heads. Let's see where we are in a few weeks. I don't see minutes for Lenny Oro at Manchester United. I don't, but I want to because we're shit. We're run by shit. And the way forward is to build something new. I mean, look, Bruno's on the thumbnail.

7:30And I said to our designer, put Bruno on the thumbnail because we're not talking about Bruno. But Bruno represents the past. Maguire represents the past. Luke Shaw represents the past. We need to represent the future. We are never, ever, ever, ever going to win the league or play good football with players that have been here for three, four, five, six, seven years. We won't do it. It won't happen. Deleuze won't do it. You know, it's not going to happen. The only slim chance that United become relevant is by building something new. Who is going to build something new? Maybe Kunja, maybe Umbermo, maybe Sesko, maybe Maynou, maybe Belayba, maybe Santos, maybe Tillemans, maybe Dorgou, maybe Yoro, maybe Heaven, like maybe Ahmad.

8:10These are the players that have to be our future and supplemented by other players, maybe Lemans. But certainly we're not going to build into something new, relying on Deleu, Maguire, Shaw, Bruno, Rashford. you know these players have had their chance doesn't mean they can't be part of it but we have to build something new we have to build something new and i think it's going to be a very interesting few weeks to see what michael carrick's survival plan is is it use the same old people or is it actually i'm here to build something and we will find out whether michael carrick is looking to survive three months or three years because if he's here for three years there are players that you can use if he's trying to just survive day to day you're in survival mode You know what you do in survival mode?

8:52I need Harry Maguire, not Lenny Oro. I can trust Harry Maguire more than Lenny Oro. I need Luke Shaw, not Dorgu. I can trust Luke Shaw. You go for the experienced players, but you're in survival mode and eventually it breaks. So look, I think it's going to be very interesting to see how it plays. Taya says, absolutely brilliant show this morning. Thank you. I'm only halfway through watching it again myself. I haven't watched it in its entirety since I filmed it, but I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I really like the bit where we spoke about Bulgaria as well. I could have, to be honest, we could have done, we need to get him back.

9:24There's so much more. What I loved about what Berbatov said, and it fits in with what I've just said there, genius as a footballer. And I can't remember the exact quotes because I filmed this two weeks ago, but there was just some really simple statements. I mean, I've never interviewed Cantona, but I think these sort of magician footballers, they have a way with words as well. And I think it was something like football simple for intelligent players, something like that. And I thought, you know, you know, you sat, it's great for you to watch it. You know, when you sat across the table from somebody with that aura.

10:01I mean, for me, it was just inspiring. You know, when somebody sits there and says, you know, football is a simple game for high IQ players. or intelligent players, and you just go, please, please come and manage Manchester United. You know, because, you know, it's just like, it is, we get classed as moaners in the fan base, but then you sit opposite people like Rooney and Berbatov and you listen to them and you go, but this is what I've been moaning about for years. Passion, consistency, intelligence. We just don't have those things. And I sit across from two people who had it in bucketfuls and you sort of like go, but this is, we're not moaners.

10:41We just remember what winning is. It's consistency, it's passion, it's desire, it's talent. And he's very right. You know, Man United struggle every week. Intelligent players don't. And we lack intelligence in that Man United side. And I'm not about to start calling players out, but I've said this many times, haven't I? We couldn't play Ranyik ball, we had to abandon that. We couldn't play Ten Hag ball, we had to abandon that. We couldn't play Amrin ball, we had to abandon that. That's all in the last five years. And a lot of those players are still at the football club. You know what that says to me?

11:18I guarantee Berbatov and Rooney could have played Ranyik ball. I guarantee Roy Keane and David Beckham could have played Amrin ball. And I guarantee all the other great players that we had could have played Ten Hag ball. But none of our players can play any other brand of football apart from part of the bus and counter. They can't. And that's, I think, what Berbatov's sort of saying. It's like, football's not difficult for intelligent players. We just don't have intelligent players at Man United. They can't play. I mean, look, I don't need to say anymore. We couldn't play Ranić ball, which was a different brand of football.

11:50We couldn't play Ten Hag ball, which was a different brand of football. And we couldn't play Amrim ball, which was a different brand of football. But Liverpool players are adapting to the Iriola mold, aren't they? It's just a lack of high IQ footballers at Man United. And that's recruitment. We'll see what Tillemans and Santos and Balaba can do. But look, that's recruitment, that is. That's recruitment. Daniel Thompson's time for Carrick to believe in Yorro. He's the future and present and the only way he can progress and improve is with games. Yorro will make mistakes, but he's proven he's ready.

12:24So Carrick needs to have faith in him. I absolutely agree with this. Look, just to give devil's advocate and the other side of the coin, I have said this for a long time. So beware. I saw it with Chong. I saw it with Alanga. I've seen it with Dorgou. I've seen it with Agate. We're not as patient as we used to be as a fan base. And you are fighting against that. Like if Jorre played against Spurs and made a mistake and we drew 2-2, I would say, look, this is what we need to do. He has the potential to be one of the best centre-backs in Europe in the next 18 months. as frustrating as it is to draw we have to stick with him and give him confidence I guarantee you half of Twitter would be going he's fucking shit get rid of him and that's not Yoro's fault that's not the fan base's fault that's what you get after 13 years of false promises and failure the patience in the fan base is really low but that's something we can control we can fight against that I'm not worried about that that's not a reason for Michael Carrick not to give Yoro a chance like yes if Jorre makes a mistake there are elements of this fan base that will be all over him but there's also elements of this fan base that we can fight back against that so I'm not worried about that but I would acknowledge Daniel and everybody else there's not a lot of patience in the fan base like look at Belaber if he has a bad game against Spurs people will say shit I mean that's incredible that's ridiculous Santos is not a flop even though he's not getting minutes but people just have low patience unfortunately what is this Yoro transfer rumours going on about surely we can't sell him says Diego no no I I think with Lenny Yoro we spoke about this was it last week or the week before it's been a bloody long international break hasn't it people go to prison for longer than this it's realistically Yoro is content at Manchester United but I think being called up for France will escalate the conversations with Man United around pathway.

14:35Every agent has a, look, agents can be knobheads, but every good agent has the right to speak to a manager or a CEO or a director of football and say, what's the pathway for my client? Because you have to start putting things in place. So I think the next few weeks for Lenny Yorra are really important. If we get to Christmas and he's still sat on the bench for Manchester United, then I think you do start to say, look, we want to leave. Because, you know, I think Jacquet at Liverpool is the prime example. He's in exactly the same position as Jorreau when he signs for Man United, but he's starting for Liverpool.

15:09Two and a half years later, Leni Jorreau is still sat on the bench. So I think he will ask to leave if he doesn't get game time. And I don't think there's a problem with that. But at the moment, I wouldn't worry about it too much. thanks for all you do Mark our voice is loudest as JBS thank you well look I hope that sort of thing starts to happen I genuinely do people obviously have their own opinions about our link up with the overlap especially over on the artist formerly formerly known as That's Football but one of the the main consideration for me was knowing what the project is and knowing how exciting it is but from a United stand point of view I think that when you look at people like Wayne Rooney, who are massively respected within the club, that, you know, these sort of conversations will filter through.

15:58And I think the voices are getting louder. And I think a link up with people like that in a community like this, hopefully can only benefit us. But look, whether that's going to get the glazes out or not, I mean, that's another matter, isn't it? Anyone else can't stand Sam Matterface. I call him Twatterface. Proper little weaseled shitbag. Wish it was Goldbridge. No wonder Mainstream's dead. Wow. I think that's the most strange comment of 2026. And it's a super chat from Ted Valentin. I will leave it. I would just leave it at that, Ted. You've expressed your opinion. We'll leave that there. Sotu says, Berbatov podcast shows how much of a mentality shift Man United players have gone through after Sir Alex Ferguson left.

16:39No one to look up to top content. It's brilliant, isn't it? And look, most of the shows we do with Rooney are topical. But obviously we've got a few lined up for international breaks and it was perfectly timed. I loved it. The problem with United is we are mediocre, says JBS. Cheers for everything, Mark, says Gaz. Hope you're doing well. Daniel Thompson says hope everyone's having a great day as well. I've got to say, shout out to the members, Denise, Lee Berman, Laura Baxter. If you're here last night, you'll know why. I just love the new badge. It just, it just, it just, it's like bonfire night, fireworks night.

17:20I just see these little member badges in different colours coming through. And again, I just say to you, absolutely brilliant idea to change the badges because they look brilliant with the Trident in a badge. There's Silver Wolverine with a green one. He says, I always loved foreign players. Speak in any sort of interview. Just becoming amazing to hear opinions of legendary Bertotov. look just on that because I've got quite a few bits to get through that are topical I've always been a defender of our foreign players I think the British media can be quite derogatory I think the treatment of Pogba, Martial, Bruno, De Gea at times has been criminal in a journalistic way compared to the way you know Luke Shaw gets injured for England and he's you know goes to a World Cup and is injured either side for Man United I mean imagine if Pogba had done that so I think there is a bias towards English players and I think our foreign players do get treated badly.

18:12But you're right. You know, when I think about people like Juan Mata, Cristiano Ronaldo, Eric Cantona, there is an aura about foreign players, especially Man United foreign players. And I don't know whether it's, they just seem to be a little bit more professional. So I agree with you. I mean, there's a lot of English players, British players that we've had at Man United that are great, but I've always loved the foreign players. And they do start getting a bit, they do get a little bit of stick, don't they? Remember we fought off Real Madrid for Yoro and we have wasted him on the bench. He'd be playing a lot more at Madrid and they're the best club in the world, says Jack.

18:48I think so far you're right, Jack. We probably have wasted Yoro. You're absolutely correct. Right. OK, let's carry on. So article from Chris Wheeler has come out in the Daily Mail today. He said two things. Michael Carrick doesn't seem to be under any immediate threat from a hierarchy who have no appetite for change. It's unlikely they would have sacked his predecessor, Amirim, in January were it not for the Portuguese coaches' public meltdown. Now, I've picked this out because I think it's exactly what I've been saying to you around Carrick. Man United is not a very well-run club. I tell you what, that's going to be on the BBC News tonight.

19:26Obviously, it won't. It's the most obvious statement in the world. But anybody who thinks Carrick's going to get sacked, I don't even know what it would take for them to sack Carrick. I mean, you are talking about the most unambitious football club in the Premier League. We have the ambition of a sloth who's just taken some sleeping pills. We ain't for moving. We ain't for excitement. We ain't for ambition. We are lazy. We are really lazy. So... Right, Wayne, what are we doing here today? Filming promo for a new podcast. Me and Mark Oldbridge. What's the podcast called, Wayne? I don't know. What is it called?

20:06Oh, that was good. Wayne is a player. Exactly what Man United was all about. But I'm sure we're not going to agree on everything. What would you think about Mark if you were a current player? Probably think he's just... We'll be reacting to all the games. Do you do your own painting in your house? All the big stories. Just have my socks on and my underpants. Good. Hopefully no sackings. The whole floor. He's gone first on both of them. I think we will have debates. That's why I was saying you can go first. I did. On the volley. United. Oh, perfect. On the pitch, off the pitch. I've got a little goal in my garden.

20:39I have to say for that, to be honest. Stiff United has come on to him. Sacking Michael Carrick, I can't even tell you what the standards are of Man United under this ownership. I know what my standards are and you will know what your standards are. But the standards of this football club will not be anywhere near ours. So if one of you are saying, look, if Carrick loses three of his next six games, he's got to go. combine that with the start of the season, he's got to go. He's out of his depth, get rid of him. I don't think that would sack Carrick. I think they... I don't think they'll sack him this season, but the only scenario I see is when if we're in the bottom half of the table in February and the Champions League is impossible, they might do it then.

21:26But I don't really think people realise how low... I'll call the club out. Your standards are lower than a worm's knob. They're absolutely on the floor. I challenge you to show that you actually have any standards. You don't. Look at the transfer window. Total lack of ambition. You would not sack Michael Carrick. You won't do it. You won't. It would have to be something ridiculous. We don't have an ambitious ownership at Manchester United. And Chris Wheeler's absolutely spot on. Amorim, even though some of you wanted him sacked in January and rejoiced about it. He only got sacked because he had a go at Wilcox for not signing players.

22:08He should have got a bloody standing ovation as he left. But some people wanted to twist it into, oh, United's board showed ambition and sacked Hamrim because it wasn't going well. He did not get sacked on results. Many of you wanted him sacked on results because that's your standards. Well done. Your standards are higher than the boards. The board sacked him because he fell out with Wilcox. They weren't sacking him on results. that wasn't why he got sacked. So if you're one of those people out there that thinks they sacked Amrim because of results they didn't. It's well known they didn't. They did it because of an argument with Wilcox.

22:41So if you think it was bad under Amrim which it was that's not sackable really on results and Carrick's not about to fall out with anybody so I don't know how bad it would have to get go for Carrick to go but I don't miss any prospect of him going. I really don't. I think, and look, that's not personal to Carrick. I just think we have a very, very, very unambitious ownership. Talking about January, though, Chris Wheeler also said this. Signing players in January is never ideal, but United may have to revisit the left-back or striker situation depending how the season goes until then. An inquiry for Man City defender Alt-Nori before the deadline showed that United were aware of the need to strengthen at left-back.

23:24The injuries to Shaw, Dorgue and Masraoui will only have doubled those concerns. I mean, look, should Man United sign players in January? They should have signed players in the summer. So, yes, we should be signing players in January. Will we sign players in January? I mean, Man United and January transfer windows are a little bit like turkeys and Christmas, aren't they? They don't necessarily get on.

23:48So, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I mean, what do you want me to say about that? um Connor Dave says if the owners decide they want a couple available strikers for shirt sales will Carrick maybe change his style to accommodate them I think those days are gone mate I don't think we sign people for shirt sales now do we um who was the last player we signed as a shirt seller um I wouldn't say Kunya, Embermo, Sesco are shirt sellers Tillemans, Embermo Santos uh sorry Belaba, Santos no Lemens, no. Darlow, no. Rasmus, Mount, Inanna. I can't remember the last shirt seller we actually signed, really.

24:38Sancho, maybe? Was there anyone else? It's a long time since we've gone and bought those sort of players. Yeah. So I don't think there is anyone out there. Mount's a great model for our kits says Silverwood yeah that's something different yeah Flop of the Season says if Carrick will rely on new players he would have gotten rid of old players in pre-season like Amrim did says Flop yeah I think there's a there's a total contradiction isn't there I think Amrim wanted to get rid of the Deadwood and build something new I think Michael Carrick's like Oli and wants to build around the Deadwood and the older players Denise says they didn't back him enough in the window, but he's not a brave manager sticking to the flops who will fail to deliver for every manager.

25:26Well, I was sort of thinking about this just before we went live and I was thinking about the team that he picked to get into third place in the first place and get the job. And when you look at his team that he picked, he didn't even use Sesco, really. He didn't. He'd rather put Mbermo as a mid-twenties player up front. Casemiro, Menuh and Bruno. Casemiro obviously very experienced centre-backs yes were predominantly Maguire and was it Martinez? Heaven a little bit but Martinez once he was back he did use him I mean I remember Heaven playing, can you remember that game I think I'm right about this, can you remember the game at Chelsea where we should have lost but we won 1-0 and I think they hit the post a couple of times, his centre-backs this is Carrick right this is a lesson that I think Carrick needs to learn so I think I'm right in saying that against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge our centre backs were Heaven and Masraoui the very next game I think he dropped Masraoui and then soon enough Heaven was out of the team as well and yet they both played brilliantly in that game at Stamford Bridge Masraoui got dropped the very next game and Heaven was out pretty soon after.

26:54And yeah, all right, Masraoui's not a centre-back, but you sort of look at it and go, Aidan Heaven was playing really, really well and obviously was forced out of the team because even last season, Carrick prioritised Shaw, Deleuze, Maguire, Casemiro, Embermo, Bruno. Experience. Experience. He is a very inexperienced coach himself and I think his fallback is to go with experience. But the problem with that is there's no vision. It's very short term. And the problem is what happens when those players are past the sell-by date? You look in the fridge and you've just got a load of inexperience. It's an interim coach mentality.

27:39I think this is a brilliant point. Carrick, to me, is still an interim coach. He's behaving like an interim. When you're an interim, get your experienced players, get the results. You're only there for four months. When you're a full-time manager, you can't keep doing that because you're there for a long time. And at some point, those players that you're relying on will just not be able to do it anymore as they get older. And you'll turn around and you'll go, shit, I haven't developed anybody. So I think this is something Michael Carrick's got to be very, very wary of. He's behaving like and interim when he's the full-time coach.

28:14He's still relying on the experienced players who will hit their sell-by day. And then you'll turn around and you'll be like, I haven't nurtured anybody through. So he has got to start nurturing through. Of course he has. Carlo, welcome to the Members Club. Thank you very much. Love that. Love your badge as well. Love your badge. Karna Dave, I love your badge. Denise, I love your badge. Dara says, could you wish my friend Mark happy birthday? His favourite footballer is Diego Delo. Well, I wish him a happy birthday, Dara, and we'll leave it there. Happy birthday to Mart. Jay says the only way Carrick can get sacked is if he realise how bad the owners are and starts to call them out, which he won't do, like Oli.

28:59Carlo, thank you very much. Jack says remember that – oh, no, we did that from Jack one. Thank you. We were talking about Real Madrid, weren't we? Also Chris Wheelock was mentioning Xerxes he said United also need a new striker and would have bought a striker had Xerxes left in the final week of the window they'll be cursing their look that Cesco's recurring shin problem means the decision not to strengthen and either that position or left back has backfired so early in the season when the club's return to Champions League action was always going to require a deeper squad United do have some backup options in other areas but may have to act in the window if they decide they're not strong enough I mean look I don't find it funny.

29:44I don't find it funny at all. But every Man United fan I know, everybody here said, we need a striker and a left back. Can I just remind everybody? As far as I'm aware, none of the Man United fan base are involved in recruitment at Man United. And there's millions of us. And every single United fan said, we need a left back and a centre forward. Our recruitment team decided that we didn't. And in a matter of weeks, our left backs have been injured and our strikers have been injured. So how do we pay recruitment specialists to basically shit the bed? And the fan base gets nothing but knew what we needed.

30:26I mean, you'd laugh if it wasn't the club you supported and, you know, it was us who were going to suffer. But I mean, this is the incompetence, isn't it? We need a striker and we need a left back. No, we don't. Three weeks later. Oh, we do. Yeah, we told you this. Leni Yorou and his France debut said this. I don't think I could have asked for anything better. A home match against Belgium with my family there. It was a great game, of course. We would have hoped for a clean sheet, but we got the win. So we're not going to complain. It was amazing. He's got to give him a chance. You know, he's quick.

31:01He's good in the air. He's going to get bigger. He's got to give him a chance. And I'm just looking at how old he is, Leni. Lenny Yorow his I mean he's 21 in next month so we bought him when he was 18 and he's 21 next month like still ridiculously young but needs to be playing football can't have another year on the bench can't have another year on the bench Just Your Average Jack one of our members love your badge says hi Mark just a few things to say. One, you're absolutely right. Gary hasn't changed the content or your opinions. Thank you. Two, I've been watching Scott since his Bristol days and he will be big.

31:48United must buy. I completely agree with you, mate. I completely agree with you. I mean, I know some of you might remember Draughty Devil who I don't know whether he's watching tonight actually. Congratulations. Him and his wife have just had a baby in the last few weeks. So congratulations. to him. But he is from around the Bristol area. And he said about Alex Scott when he was there, this is a player to keep an eye on. And ever since I was told that, I always did. And he's brilliant. He's absolutely brilliant. So we won't sign him though, Jack. We won't sign him. We won't. It'll be another Elliot Anderson.

32:36It would just be another player that should be coming to Manchester United if we were ambitious. But that's the problem. Ambition is why Alex Scott is a good player for Man United. But we won't do it. We just won't do it. We won't go and buy a player of that calibre, unfortunately. And it's sad that that's the case. Romano has been talking about centre-backs. Lissandro Martinez talking about age I think he's 28 let me just double check but Romano's basically given an update on the contract situation with Lissandro Martinez I want to run a poll here and I'm not going to say anything I'm just going to run a poll I forgot how to do a poll there I've done loads of polls

33:25would you give Martinez a new deal So yes or no, would you give Lissandro a new deal? Now, Lissandro Martinez has got one year left on his deal, so it's up in the summer, but there's a plus one on it. He's 28 and he'll be 29 in January. So when his contract's up in the summer, he's 29. Now, you can extend it by a year or you can give him a bigger contract. Would you do it? Now, what's going to make me laugh is that there will be people saying, don't give a new contract to Martinez at 29. And some of them same people will say, let's give Maguire a new contract at 33. Martinez is four years younger and has just played in a World Cup final.

34:17So, look, there seems to be something about not giving Martinez a contract, which I don't understand. but Romano basically said in the Lissandro Martinez case Manchester United also have an option to extend his contract until 2028 so they feel calm, they're in control and while he suffered unfortunate injuries in recent years Man United still see him as a leader and a top defender. At the moment the situation is under control, discussions with Lissandro are expected to take out place over the coming months. In addition to having the option to extend his deal, Man United want to hold proper talks with his representatives to discuss a new contract.

34:51As things stand, there are no advanced negotiations with any other club. That is why the situation is currently said to be under control. That was from Fabrizio Romano. I, um...

35:13Sorry.

35:26I was just asking Wayne if he can get Ronaldo on the show. I think that when it comes to Martinez, I don't think he gets a new contract at Man United. This is just a hunch, right? This is just a hunch. I don't think he gets a new contract at Man United. I think that he will leave. I think he will leave I'm not convinced that Martinez looks at Man United and thinks let's sign another three or four year deal here I think Martinez might look at Spain Atletico Madrid maybe Real Madrid maybe Barcelona would look at him but I think Martinez won't stay at Man United I don't think he'll go in the same way summer.

36:20He might need to go in the summer as well. You've got Aidan Heaven, Lenny Oro. We probably need to buy a centre back. I think Martinez will go in the summer. I think this is his last season at Man United. I've got no, absolutely no inside information on that. And I don't want him to go. I like Martinez. But I just don't get the feeling Martinez will sign another contract at Man United. I think he will say, you can extend me by a year and take a transfer fee in the summer, but I'm not going to sign a new contract here. I think I'd like to try something new. I just get that vibe that he won't sign another contract and he'll say he wants to go and try something new, which I don't begrudge him, by the way.

37:07Why are United going to change in the next three years? No. I don't think we're going to change in the next three years. And it's a shame because I do like Martinez. But I also think with Martinez, he's one more injury away from being written off by this fan base anyway. So I think we'll extend it. We'll take the plus one and he will leave in the summer. That's what I think will happen. I don't think he's had a very good start to the season either. I think the pace of the league might be something where he goes, I'm approaching 30. I'm playing at a back four it's a quick league I don't I want to play in a slightly slower league where I've got more time on the ball so I think he will leave, not for bad reasons I just think he will look at the Premier League and he'll go I need to be in a different league where it's a little bit slower where I can bring the ball out from the back and at United I would describe United's defence at the moment as chaos you see Maguire and you see Martinez and they're moving around all over the place.

38:11They've got crack fullbacks. The midfield's not sorted in front of them. There's space all over the place. And you sort of sometimes catch their eye and you can see them going, what the fuck's going on? I've seen Maguire do it a couple of times this season where they're almost going, what the fuck am I doing here? And they're experienced centre-backs. So look, would I give Martinez a new contract? I probably would. I probably would give him a new contract do I think he will sign one no I don't Ross says extensions are always the cheaper option for Ineos thank you Ross and Alec Miller one of our members love the badge says I wouldn't mind giving Martinez a new contract but we need to start integrating Heaven and Yoro in more regularly PS love the new badges thank you very much well look Heaven can play left side Yoro can play right side I would nothing would make happier than Lenny, Yoroh and Aidan Heaven being our centre back starters in two years time.

39:12You've got to build that out, haven't you? And I don't think you can build that out with Martinez, Maguire. Look, I don't think you can. If we didn't have Martinez, he would be a centre back. We would look at to replace Maguire's experience in the summer. Terrible mistake to let him go, says BRT. Good point. Thank you very much for that. So yeah, that's the update on that one. I think that's one to keep an eye on as well. An injury news ahead of Saturday, and I can add something into this. So this was from Chris Wheeler as well. Sesko, Ahmad and De Ligt are unlikely to return in time to face Tottenham.

39:48That's a little bit disappointing on Ahmad. It's been a long injury for Ahmad. Sesko, I think, will be out most of October, if not November. I'm not expecting Sesko back any time. I'm also not expecting an update from Man United. De Ligt, I mean, look, he's been out for a year. I didn't think he'd be in for the Spurs game anyway. I think we'll gradually feed him in and that's fine. Ahmad, I was, hopefully would be involved, but apparently he's not quite there at the moment. I would also add Dorgou in there. Now, I've been told a couple of things over the last couple of weeks. One I'm not going to share because I don't think it's helpful ahead of Tottenham.

40:28It's not about injuries. It's more about the coaching and a little bit of things that's going on there. So I'm not saying anything ahead of Tottenham. Let's see what happens. But in relation to Dorgou, what I will tell you is there's concern around Dorgou. Now, look, sometimes these things cannot be as bad as you think. But the feeling was that Dorgou would not be back for Spurs and would be struggling for the next two or three weeks. And what I was told is that United were worried that it might be a little bit like January where it ends up being three months. So I'm surprised at the absence of the name Dorgou in the Chris Wheeler update because he's definitely in the Sesco category of this could be quite lengthy.

41:14so just yeah probably no Ahmad, Sesko or DeLitt for Spurs I wouldn't expect Dorgou to be involved as well so we're a little bit threadbare Belaber's available, Belaber will be there but we're a little bit threadbare in the attack with no Sesko, Dorgou, Ahmad Rashford I don't know with Rashford it's very very quiet with Rashford I mean I know going into the break the injury was worse than it had ever been. Whether a bit of rest has made him feel better. I don't think Rashford's 100%. I don't think he could be 100 % three weeks later. So what might have happened is a bit of rest has took him back to where it's painful, but he can play.

42:02I do question how Rashford's actually going to get over this issue because I wouldn't have thought three weeks is enough really. But I would say that Rashford probably will be played. What about Maynews, says Nathan? I know nothing on the Maynews situation. I don't even know what the injury was. I mean, it's a strange one, isn't it? Because you look at the England games and I think Maynew would have got them. I mean, look at the positive publicity that Alex Scott got at the weekend. Now, unfortunately, he is out injured for a couple of months. But I think for Maynew, it was a great opportunity to play a bit of game time for England.

42:40And so, I mean, why would he dodge England games? I don't know. But so I have to assume he's properly injured. But this is the problem with United, though. It's like I feel like a broken record saying this, but why don't we publicise the injuries? Because if we turn up against Spurs at the weekend and Rashford and Maynou and Ahmad and Dorgou and Sesko and De Ligt are all out injured, I think you'd have every right to go, why the fucking hell have we not been communicated to? I'm expecting Rashford and Maynou to be fit. I expected Ahmad to be fit. And there's an outside chance that Dorgue might be fit.

43:18So look, we'll have to wait and see. But we just don't get communicated to. BRT says, Phil Jones, Rojo, Bailey, Lynn Blath, Maguire, Martinez, all injury prone centre backs. When are we going to address our fitness department? Well, we've just literally been talking about it there and it's a good point. I don't know. I don't know. Let me have a look at some of your comments. Laura Baxter is talking about something else. I love the chat when they're just having a chat amongst themselves. I want to see Lacey get a proper run of games, Denise.

43:53Yeah, I mean, I keep forgetting what games we've got. I mean, look, Lacey, Yoro, Heaven, Amas. I mean, you look at the next few games, Spurs, he's got to win. Atletico Madrid away, you're not going to play kids in that. Leeds away, very important to win that. Como away, depends what happens against Madrid. But again, it's a difficult game. Bournemouth at home, you know, you're going to want to win that because it's Chelsea away next. And then it's Roma away at home and Villa at home. So, you know what? Out of the next one, two, three, four, five, six, eight games before the next international break.

44:44Eight games before the next international break. Fucking hell. How long is this then? Is the five? It's slightly longer, isn't it? so eight games before the next international break the only game i can think of and that's if we do well against como and um atletico madrid is roma at home where you might give some of these people some game time and i include yarrow in that as well i mean do you think he's going to start yarrow against spurs i don't do you think he's going to start him in madrid i don't do you think he starts in the against leeds i don't do you think he starts against como maybe bournemouth it's a league game Chelsea away I don't think so Roma at home maybe Villa at home depending on results you know but I'd say Yoro's only real chances are Como and Roma of starting which is why getting knocked out of the Carabao Cup was so fucking stupid because we you know these are the games where people get minutes but look I don't want to be predicting what's going to happen because yeah Obi's out on load at the moment, Hulk Hogan.

45:53Yes. Daniel Thompson says, fantastic episode of Stick to United. Great to see Berbatov. Bet that a great job on the overlap and the negativity you two have got is awful. Thank you both and all the team for the brilliant work. Love the new badges. Look, thank you, Daniel. Lovely, kind message as always. I personally don't really care about the haters because we've built this community into a huge community and most of it's always had our back, which is great. and you're always going to upset a few people along the way. I mean, even I know I'm a knobhead. I think I say knobhead things all the time.

46:29So if people fall on the side of he's a knobhead exclusively, then, you know, that's life. I think some of you mostly think he's okay, but he can be a knobhead. That's absolutely fine. But what I don't like is, and I'd love to see, is people pop over to the Overlap fan debate and drop some nice comments for Beth because I think it's a big step forward to go on the fan debate for her. It's the first time anyone from the United States has been on it. I watched it. I thought she did a really good job. And you just get all these jealous people commenting because it's not the person they want to be on it.

47:01But it's a fan debate. Like, you know, why shouldn't Beth have a go on it? And I thought she was very, very good. And look, not just because I think that something that's really important is to champion women in football, which is what we've always done on this channel and we will continue to do, but also because that's the first time anyone from the United stand represented us on that fan debate. It's a proud moment. So if you're part of this community, pop over there and give us some support. Because the people who aren't giving us support are of other communities who probably are a little bit bitter that we're massive.

47:36But yeah, I thought she did very, very well. Obviously, it was very Man City centric. What I find hilarious about that is how their usual Man City attendees were all on holiday. And I tell you what, I guarantee those holidays would have been cancelled if Man City had been found not guilty. So, yeah. Yeah, it was good. I'm very proud. Well done to Beth. Well done to you. You know, when people do stuff like that, they're representing what we've built. women's football is awful says Ryan yeah we're not we're not talking about women's football we're talking about women in football don't want to blow your mind Ryan but if you look at the game on Saturday there'll be a lot of people in that crowd that aren't exclusively men there will be women there there will be children there we're talking about women in football is it easier to give minutes to Jorro at right back says Ryan nah I'm not I'm not keen on that I'm not keen on that I'm not that's not Yorou playing at right back is not minutes for me I don't I don't think that's the way to go he's a centre back you know this is like putting Kunja up front again isn't it you can't just give minutes what about Kev on fan debate oh I'd love that I'd love that I thought Mauds would be good as well yeah yeah we need to We start a petition to get Kev on as well.

49:07I think Kev would be brilliant at it, actually. Yeah. Yeah.

49:17Still people are going on about women's football. We're not talking about women's football, you prats. Why is Mark and the community so cute? I want to tickle everyone, says Maz Rawawi. You've really gone a little bit creepy recently. You said good things over the summer, but you have gone a little bit creepy. What was the latest on Gabriel? Just a little bit around...

49:45Where was it? I saw it here today. They were saying on TalkSport that it looks like it's a straight shootout between Real Madrid and Barcelona, which is a significant blow. Well, of course, today's his birthday. So he's 16 today. So it should start to escalate that I think he can choose his move. But he posted something on his Instagram today. of training with a coach out in Spain. So, look, JJ's gone. I really hope he becomes a really top player. And I hope he ends up playing for England. And I hope we win the World Cup and the Euros. And look, I'm not somebody that... I don't deal in hate. I say what I think, but I don't deal with hate.

50:33and I'm not about to start hating a 15-year-old because he leaves Manchester United. I wish him all the best. I think we all need to move on now. I was very disappointed. United will say they did everything they could have done. I would say, no, you didn't because you run by the Glazers. And I think that's the mic drop, isn't it? There'll be people who work around the team. There'll be people like Carrick and everyone else who will say Man United did everything they could. And I would say, no, you did everything you could, but who owns the football club? If we weren't owned by the Glazers, we'd be in a better situation with better pathways and we'd be a better run club.

51:09And then maybe people like JJ wouldn't want to leave. But we're not a well run club. And the head of youth development maybe did all they could. Michael Carrick might have done all he could. But it's not because of you that they're going. It's because of the ambition of the football club. We're just not an ambitious, attractive football club anymore. And people will slip through the net. That's the way it is. Arsenal signed two. I forgot to bring this in, actually.

51:41Arsenal signed two of our youngsters a few weeks ago.

51:50I don't know whether they got them.

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53:18Did they get them or not? It was being reported.

53:25Scanlon and Agogni both signed for Arsenal a month ago I don't know why I don't know how good they were but they did sign for Arsenal so look might not be as high profile as JJ but players do leave Man United they do these things happen we got David Eze from City yeah we're after someone else from Liverpool but look to be honest with you what's the big win in messing around with signing players under 19 look at Lenny Oro we signed him at 18, he spent two and a half years on the bench look at Obi he's on loan somewhere, look at Kone look at Leon we hype up these deals that we do and then we don't develop any of them to be honest with you if you were the agent of the talented 15, 16 year old at Man United you wouldn't look at everything that's gone on in the last five years and go this is the place to be as a young player would you?

54:36Look, it's the same decision that Bellingham made Bellingham could have signed for Man United he chose Dortmund he chose Wright he's now one of the best players in the world at Real Madrid so Man United Tin and Thompson's completely disappeared after signings as Fred Army. Until we prove that there is a pathway for young players at Man United, we will lose players at Man United. And we've just spent 10 minutes at the start of the show talking about Yoro, who's been here for two and a half years, who we spent 50 million. I mean, Lenny Yoro's not a talented young player from the youth. Lenny Yoro is a talented young player that we spent 50 million pounds on and we still haven't developed him.

55:11So there we go. Joey, a member, says, Joe, thank you very much. I love your badge, Joey. I love that red one. It's lovely. Did you ask Berbatov what kind of chocolate? No, I bloody didn't. In 2015, says Quantum, I was at St Pancreas to see some bird in Leicester. Ran into Gary.

55:34I'm starstruck shock. I was like, that's Gary Neville. He said, yeah, and left. Okay. Okay. Thanks for that, mate. Okay. hey, why aren't you doing the England watch along? I'll tell you why I'm not doing the England watch along. Because I'm with it. I mean, I did the Spain one. And I've been bored shitless ever since. I just can't watch it. I said to Seb today, he said, are you watching the Nations League? I said, no, because I call it the Nonsense League. It's an absolute fucking waste of time. I've got no interest in this international break at all. It's shit. I don't like the Nations League.

56:12I'd probably watch the final if we got to it. But even if we won it, it's a load of shit. It's an absolute load of shit. I don't, it puts me right off international. International football is only good when it's the summer and it's the Euros or the World Cup. And every fucking international break is boring. The only good game was Spain because it was like competitive. Let's see how we go. if the international break was like competitive games against France, Spain, Brazil Argentina it'd be really good but how you create that I don't know, it's an absolute load of shite so no I'm not watching England I couldn't give a toss to be honest with you thank you everybody for watching 57 % of you wouldn't give Martinez a new deal there we go we are back at 10 o 'clock tomorrow morning as normal if you haven't watched the Berbatov video please do go and check it out.

57:07I think it's probably one of the best videos we've ever uploaded on here. It was fantastic.

57:17Wright says, Hi Mark, just curious, will you be doing live streams on Overlap daily? And why is the answer no? I ain't got time for this, mate. I'm just about to go and enjoy my evening. I have said multiple times and this is the perfect time to say it. When we did the deal with the overlap on the United stand, people said, I'm unsubscribing. Everything is going to change, blah, blah, blah. And I said, a little bit of trust would be great because I don't lie and nothing changed. And on Overlap Daily, we will still be doing watch alongs and live match reactions and everything else. Everything will be the same, just getting bonus content.

57:57So I look forward to the apology for all the people who are predicting bullshit that they don't know anything about. but I won't get one. I'll just have to take the satisfaction. There we go. Yeah, check out the Berbatov video. Absolutely fantastic. And if you have time, pop over to the overlap and pop a comment and watch the fan debate with Beth on it. Give us some support. Thanks for watching. Great show tonight. Really loved it. After tonight, the international break's over and we're heading towards the weekend and the return of football where we've got eight Manchester United games in the space of a month.

58:28So you won't be able to move for watch-alongs and reaction. Take care. stay safe. Brilliant community. Thanks to all the members with your lovely badges. Thanks to everyone else as well. Remember on the members section, we upload a video tomorrow about Fantasy Premier League and an extra one with me and Rene on Thursday. So loads for you to get involved in and there's loads already there. Take care.

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