Carrick OUT? Fulham 1-1 Man United Match Reaction

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1:51Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stand. Manchester United won, Fulham won. Lots to discuss about that game. I want to start off with three big topics, though. I've changed the title, actually. It was Carrick out at 1-0, question mark. Then it was Lucky Carrick at 1-1. And then I've gone back to Carrick out, question mark, because actually, I don't think a draw today was actually enough. I don't think a draw is like, oh, you've got a bit more time. I think it's shit. I think the context of the draw is shit. Kunja, with a hit and hope, deflects in the bottom corner and we're meant to go, that's good.

2:26It was shit. It was shit. The subs were shit. The starting 11 was shit. The tactics were shit. The energy was shit. It's genuinely one of, it's the worst start to a season I've seen United since Moyes. It's dreadful. So I actually still think that if we'd lost the game, there would have been a lot of people saying, get rid of Carrick, I don't think a point should change your mind. I don't. I think if you Carrick out, what's changed? There was nothing in that game that makes me think that that point's a spark. It was chaos ball. It was rubbish. It was absolutely rubbish. And also, I said before the game, we'll find out today whether those players are playing for Carrick.

3:08They're not playing for Carrick. They might think they are, but they're not. There's no energy. There's no intensity. It's like we're playing on, you know, like you can watch a YouTube video at 1.5 speed. Speed it up. It's like we're playing it at 0.5 speed. It's like we're slowing it down. They are not playing for him. Now, that might be because the tactics and the coaching is crap. It's impossible. Or it might be because the fitness is glaringly terrible. I mean, again, another team that's quicker and fitter than us. Ridiculous. But they're not playing for him. Those players are better than Fulham.

3:47Obviously, the result doesn't show that out. We're lucky to get a point. But the players on the pitch, Bruno Fernandes, Cunha, Embermo, Maynou, Martinez, we've got a better team than them. And they're nowhere near them. They can't lay a glove on them. So the players are not playing for the manager. And the other thing was, even with that point, which is not a win, we've got five points from 15. We're 10 points behind Man City after five games and we're four points off fourth after five games. and we've got a hard October to come and we've had a very easy start to the season on paper. But the big thing for me is, even if you want to take the positives of the draw and there will be people out there that do, fair play.

4:39Tell me what the positives are for next game. Like, you know, it's not like we've played really well and got a draw and we can take something from it. We've probably played the worst we've played this season. We were absolutely crap. And the fact that he didn't make subs until how late he did is incredible. And can I just say as well, I presume Santos is a flop by Carrick's standards now because we paid£48 million for him. He had a pre-season. He's not like Balaba who's coming back from injury. Santos cost£48 million. He can't get a minute in a shower of shit performance like that. And also, Deleuze.

5:18What am I missing about Deleuze? what is it about that starting 11 that's been shit this season that he keeps picking it like we've been shit Michael all season and that's your starting 11 that's your best 11 Deleuze starts for Deleuze plays 90 minutes again three games in a week he's played 90 minutes and been shit and Masraoui sat on the bench I mean this is wild to me this is not picking on Carrick This is just a United fan who wants to back the manager who seems to have no clue what he's doing. I just don't get it. I don't get it at all. They're not playing for you. They're not fit. And there's no tactics.

5:59I mean, the equaliser itself literally epitomises what we are. It's a hit and hope that deflects in the bottom corner. And then I think he comes on the pitch at the end, moaning to the referee, trying to get a fucking penalty for the handball. like how's about coach the Fulham are bottom of the league mate Fulham are bottom of the league and you and you can't beat Fulham who are bottom of the league we don't even look like we deserve to beat Fulham and I tell you what as well I said at the start of the season I would have an open mind with Marcus Rashford we've had five Premier League games he's got no goals he's got no assists and he's our best paid player.

6:44We're treating him like he's a 17-year-old where we need to be patient. He was at Barcelona last year. He's our best paid player. We pay him 300 and something thousand pounds a week and he's had a stinker today and Michael Carrick has thrown him straight back into the team from game one. And it has fucking destroyed our team. Last season, we had a system and a rhythm that worked. We had Kunja on the left and Ahmad on the right and they supported the defence and we actually looked like a bit of a team. He's thrown that out the window. I know he can't help Ahmad being injured, but Mbamo doesn't work back.

7:21Rashford doesn't work back. And they were both shit going forward today. And that's on Carrick. Because Cunha's fit. And Cunha's suffering up front as well. So we've took one of our better players, put him up front where he's not doing anything. I know he scored a lucky equaliser, but he's nowhere near as good as he was last season to accommodate Rashford. And you know what? I actually feel sorry for Rashford because if I'd have been the manager, I'd have said to him, we finished third last year. You wanted to be in Barcelona. We wanted you to be in Barcelona. It didn't happen. Boo-hoo. But you're here now.

7:56Let's get on with it. But we finished third. We're in a good place. You've got to work to get back in the team. And I'm going to gradually integrate you in. That was the obvious thing to do. What does Carrick do? Oh, Rashford's back straight in the team. and look what it's done to the team. It's a shit show. I'm turning the telly off. I don't want to fucking look at Kunia making out. It's a spark or anything like that. It's fucking shit. It's absolute shit today. It's embarrassing how badly we've started the season. And I'm slightly embarrassed that we actually drew the game. A draw was never good enough for us.

8:30We needed to win that game. A draw is not a good result. It's a shit result. It's a shit start to the season. And it's embarrassing that, in a way, we've took those points off Fulham who fucking deserved it more than us. I thought we were shit today. I don't think Fulham were very good, but I thought we were shit today. And Le Mens made, beyond the goal they scored, Le Mens made two brilliant saves as well. I don't think we did enough to get a draw. I really don't. I think it's a mess. I think that, I mean, look, we're almost starting the season again when we come back after the international break.

9:03And, you know, hopefully things can get better. But two games a week against good opposition, I think we've got to go Atletico Madrid, Como, Roma. We've got to go Chelsea. We've got Brentford, Spurs. You know, it's Leeds away. I worry. I worry. And also, I think if we, you know, that Cunha deflected goal either masks the truth for you or it doesn't change anything. And for me, it doesn't change anything. I look at the league table and I go, I think this is going to get worse. I said it the other day. I did a thumbnail. It'll get worse. I think things are going to get worse. And either Wilcox and Barada and Sir Jim Radcliffe figure that out and put something in place very, very quickly.

9:49Otherwise, this time next year, we've got no European football. We can't afford anybody and we're a load of shit. And I look at that team and I think it's absolute shit at the moment. I really do. I think it's really shit. And look, maybe Balaba can give us something, but we shouldn't need Balaba to be the saviour of Manchester United when you've got to start to the season, which is two newly promoted teams, Everton, Fulham. Man City, okay. But Everton, Fulham, Ipswich and Hull, even if we just played those four, we've only took five points out of it. five points out of 12, but then we've lost to Man City as well.

10:31It's rubbish. It's rubbish. Now, would I sack Michael Carrick?

10:37You know what? The match has just finished. I'm massively pissed off. We desperately needed to win that game. We're playing catch-up already. And I think the thing that worries me is we're four points off fifth. I think we're four points off fifth, Maybe three points off fifth. That's the one we need. We're four points off fifth and we're four points off fourth, right? That doesn't sound like much, but in a very competitive league, that still takes a bit of work. It still takes a bit of work because those teams who are four points ahead of us, they need to lose two and we need to win two to go past them.

11:18So it's a very competitive league and there are no easy games and we're playing really, really bad. I mean, look, people would talk about Rashford and people would talk about Mbumo, but what about Bruno? I mean, Bruno was brilliant last year, but he's 32 and he's got to play two games a week now and he played a World Cup in the summer. He looks different. You know, he does look different. Our fullbacks, we know they're shit. Martinez and Maguire aren't quick enough as a pair. Manu and Tillemans aren't intense enough as a pair. Cunha's not a striker. So the whole team, you can see the problems in the team.

11:57And we've spoke about it so many times. Luke Shaw missed the last two games. We didn't buy a left back. Sesko is injured. We have no striker. We're bringing fucking Xerxes on as a striker. So look, it's not just the fact that Carrick, you know, is going to be under pressure. It's also the fact that the board have fucked us over as well. and you know what? I don't actually know what the solution is because what is the solution? I think at the moment, as I said, this is the worst start to a season I've seen from United in a very, very long time and his strongest 11 is shit, you know? He doesn't make subs.

12:47I said it before the game. His strongest 11 is clearly that team. That's his strongest 11 at the moment. Lemans, Deleuze, Shaw, Martinez, Maguire, Tillemans, Manu, Bruno, Rashford, Embermo and Cunha. That's his strongest team, yeah? But they've already let him down. He's already lost points with this team. It's a shit start to the season and he keeps picking it. And I'm like, you spent£48 million on Santos, you won't give him a chance. Masraoui, you won't give him a chance. You won't play Yoro. Dorgoo's now out of the team completely. Obviously, Sesko wouldn't have started anyway, but he's injured.

13:31Lacey can't get a sniff. What a surprise. Got no chance. No chance. Absolutely no chance of getting any minutes. He keeps picking the same team. What message does that send to the bench? Well, we're clearly so far down that he'd rather watch that shit than users. and what message does that send to the starting 11? It doesn't matter how shit I am, he'll still pick me.

13:58I think last season he got results on favouritism and nepotism and we're all in it together. And I don't think there's much more beyond that. I think he brought in Southgate's right-hand man to play Southgate ball. I don't think there's much more to it. I don't. I think we're a very, very, very basic team. And I think if Fulham can basically beat us, bar a deflection, I worry what better teams with better players will do. Because I don't think Fulham are that good. I really don't think Fulham are that good. I know they drew at Anfield and I know they've drawn against theirs, but I don't think they're that good.

14:39I think that we're very basic. and I think the whole Carrick era is about a defence that doesn't score, concede many goals and moments. And you look, you know what? I look at last season now and I said it at the time, performance, results, vision. There was no vision. There was no performance. It was just results. What were those results built upon? Bruno Fernandes breaking an assist record and Casemiro getting on the end of crosses. Maguire can't score corners now because everybody knows he's the threat last year you couldn't deal with Maguire and Casemiro this year you just deal with Maguire we've even started doing short corners because we can't get Maguire on the end of it I look at last season I think one game a week Bruno on a record breaking season and Casemiro and Maguire in the air I think that's what it was all about we won a lot of games by one goal last year as well I think we got a lot of luck last year as well but that's on the board for not seeing that coming some of us saw this coming some of us said don't make this mistake don't make this mistake and they did and then they didn't back up the mistake by actually supporting the manager either so as I said to you a couple of weeks ago I didn't expect it to go wrong this wrong so quick but it has gone really really wrong looking forward they're not going to sack him over the international break they're all going to piss off on holiday to Ibiza and hide aren't they that's what's going to happen but realistically I don't think you know if we woke up tomorrow morning and Carrick had been sacked do you think the fan base would say do you genuinely think the fan base would go that's wrong I don't I don't I don't maybe I'll calm down a little bit later but I think if they sacked him in the morning I don't think anybody would go oh that's harsh I mean they're not going to do it by the way but I don't think anybody would think it was harsh um there are three things that just came back to me in the match that I said that is a problem with Manchester United.

16:38It's one of these three things, right? The players aren't playing for him for whatever reason. We're not fit enough or we're not being coached well enough. But one of those things or all of those things or two of those things are definitely happening. Either the players are willingly not trusting the manager and not playing. The coaching isn't good enough for them to help the manager. Or the fitness, we're just so lethargic. We're so slow. It's game five now. We're so slow. And you know what the scary thing is? I don't know what we sacrificed in pre-season, but we definitely, I don't know what we sacrificed it for, but we definitely sacrificed fitness.

17:23And I don't know what we did it for? You know, was it ball work? Because it's not worked either. But it just looks like, it looks like amateur hour at United. You know, we look so far off it for the players that we've got. It does look like amateur hour at the moment. Serti, welcome to Members Club. So, De Ligt and Balaba travelling was a PR stunt, says Panache. Well, De Ligt was never on the bench. Balaba was an unused bench player. But I find it criminal that he doesn't use Santos. I mean, we've just wasted 48 million pounds. I mean, whoever signed Santos must surely be banging on the door of Carrick's office and saying, are you having a fucking laugh?

18:04We spent 48 million pounds on him. We've got five points from 15 and you don't use him. Do you want to tell me his shit? Because you signed it off. Like, it's weird to me. This guy had a full preseason and we don't trust him. Sorry, but he has to be sacked even with the draw, says Craig. He needs sacking this week. They're not playing for him, says Jane. Maguire was not called a handball. VAR consistent, says Nicholas.

18:34Oh, sorry. Oh, is that what Carrick was moaning about? That's never a handball. I said handball and then I saw the replay and I'm like, you could give it, but it's not handball. His hands are in his body. When you think about it, what's he supposed to do with his hands? Like, it's a natural reaction to put your hands up because it might hit you in the face. But if it's out there or up there, but not like that, you're really grasping at straws if you want a penalty for that. And even if we bloody got it, we probably would have lost.

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21:14Carrick won't survive if the players put in those types of performances says Michael losing to 10-man City was better than this what would sit Carrick lose by playing young fullbacks young players says Doug well this is the thing as well what's actually you know what is it we're actually going to do like we'll play Spurs it'll be Rashford on the wing again it'll be Cunha up front it'll be Emberma on the right it'll be Tillemans and Mainu and Bruno it'll be Maguire and Martinez it'll be Shaw and Deleuze but the same 11 when we play Spurs because he doesn't change it. Just keeps doing the same thing.

21:47Matt Gaming, welcome to the Members Club. Thank you very much. I know the board are architects of this circus, but Carrick is easily the worst manager post for Alex Ferguson. It's like we've put the intern from HR in charge, says Azor. At least we helped send Tottenham rock bottom, says SN. Fax, welcome to Members Club. Thank you very much. Ex-Chelsea season ticket holder, ex-Blackburn Leeds player, ex-City CEO and leeches. We're being ruined by envious minds internally, says Fakas. Desiree says, I repeat, sack Carrick before things get worse. He will keep playing the same back four and Rashford week in, week out, says Desiree.

22:19This is the thing. I don't actually see things getting any better. We might get more. I mean, I'm sure at some point we're going to win some games, but that team isn't going to turn into what Iriola is building at Liverpool or what I think Alonso will probably build at Chelsea. It's not going to turn into a good team. It's just not. I mean, Maguire's probably in his last season. Luke Shaw should be in his last season. Deleuze's not good enough. Bruno's 32. Rashford's 29 next month. I mean, this team is short-term anyway, but short-term for what? Honest Mark, how do you feel? Seriously, this isn't on.

22:58Xerxes, I want to know how you genuinely feel, says D. I genuinely feel fed up. I don't really know. So, look, you know what I feel? I feel like obviously we need new owners. Obviously we need to spend on this team. And obviously we need a proper vision. If you said to me tomorrow, Wilcox has been sacked, Favell's the new director of football, Nagelsmann's coming in to replace Carrick and we're building something, I'd be more optimistic. But I'd still have the owners who probably won't build. But honestly, I always think about Raul Frangnick and open heart surgery. And I think tonight is probably the most I've ever wanted it.

23:43Like Carrick clearly doesn't look like he's going to be the guy, but the owners aren't the guys either. Like we need open heart surgery in that football club. And to be honest with you, Rashford needs to go. Bruno probably needs to go. Shaw needs to go. Maguire needs to go. Maybe even Martinez needs to go. Like big decisions need to be made about a football club that's on its arse. And people would say, you can't get rid of Bruno. I mean, obviously it's not going to happen this season, but we're talking about building for the future. This project's over already in my mind. He's not building anything.

24:14If Lacey comes on for Mbermo with 20 minutes to go, you might be building something. If you take off one of your centre-backs because they're slower than a turd and you bring Yoro on, you might be building something. If you put Masraoui on instead of Deleuze, you might be building something. We're not building anything. We need to build something. And that's the thing for me. Results come and go. next week there's a game you might win the week after you might win results come and go but what are we actually building? I want to feel optimistic I felt optimistic for a brief time when we brought Raniuk in because I thought he was going to build the club not be the coach and we didn't let that happen I felt optimistic for a brief time when Mourinho came in because he always wins titles and we needed to win a title I felt optimistic when Tanhar came in because I thought what he did at Ajax was really good and I thought we might actually start playing good football and the same with Amrim but these players, this squad they just don't play good football.

25:06So you've got to rip it out. But we haven't got the owners to rip it out. They just want to put a plasterer on the wound. So yeah, I'm fed up of it. I'm absolutely fed up of it. I'm looking forward to stick to United actually because I'm just going to, you know, in a way the draw is better. But I'm going to go in. I'm going in on it. I'm going to say, look, this ain't fucking working. It's not going to work. Carrick needs to get sacked to be able to get a new manager bounce and win games again. Look, I said it in the summer. I can't do another season out of Europe. I thought last season was horrific.

25:37You know, waiting two or three weeks for games. One game a week. It's fucking embarrassing. And we're heading straight towards that at the moment. Brentford are better than us. There's so many teams that are better than us. I've seen everybody play now. Leeds are better than us. Leeds and Brentford are better than us. Newcastle are better than us. Liverpool are way better than us. We'll have to see what happens when we play Chelsea and Spurs, but they might be better than us. I mean, we've just fucking nearly lost to bottom of the league. The only reason they're not bottom of the league is because of a lucky deflection.

26:07Not subbing Lacey is sackable as well, says Joel. I told you. I told you. And people say JJ is wrong to leave. Lacey scores a good goal on Wednesday night. United are fucking shit. Embarrassing. And he won't bring him on. Carrick needs to get sacked to be able to get a new manager bounce, says Adz. Ben says Carrick was never the bloke, but I refuse to blame another manager going into a season with two hands tied behind his back. Look, I agree with you, Ben. I agree with you. Like there is a huge blame on the board and the summer transfer window was horrific and everything. But unfortunately, what that horrific window is doing is also exposing that even with the players we've got, there are bare minimum things like, yeah, we haven't got a striker.

26:50We haven't got a left back. The midfield clearly wasn't the midfield he wanted because he won't use Santos. But he's still got players that should run. He's still got players that should be able to, you know, show patterns of play and create chances. And we didn't create anything today, really, either as well. Everything we nearly did. I mean, couldn't you nearly scored another deflection? Like, it's luck. It's not design. It's luck at the moment. Apparently, they ran a lot more than us, says John. I'm not surprised. Weekend routine. Start with hope. Watch an absolute shit show of performance, then tune in here for some much needed therapy, says Delon.

27:24But I know how you feel, mate, because I was like that. I thought genuinely this weekend, I thought we would win. I genuinely thought we would win this weekend. And I know that's probably massively naive, but I genuinely couldn't see how we wouldn't win this game. No disrespect to Fulham, but they're not that good. And we desperately need... You know what it is? And it's a great super chat because it makes me say this. I just thought because we've had a shit start to the season, it would, regardless of the coach, you wouldn't need coaching. the professional pride would kick in you'd look at the league table and you'd go if we don't win this game today we're really in the shit so regardless of coaching or starting 11s we approach this game in the right way and we win the game and you know what the fact that the players can't even get themselves up to do that is shocking but we shouldn't trust them because they've done it so many times but I really did think that this weekend despite Carrick the players would turn up and go we actually do need to win this game because if we don't win it, we're starting to get cut adrift and we've got a hard October and November coming.

28:31We've got tough places to go before Christmas. We're going to be playing twice a week. We need this three points. We've got to go and grab it. And I said it at the start. I said it at halftime and I said it 10 minutes into the second half. Where's the intensity? Where's the speed? Where's the desire? We're basically playing a game of football at the moment with Fulham where we're flipping a coin and seeing whether it lands on heads or tails. And if you do that, you end up with that type of result. You've got to go and grab the opportunity. And we were sort of playing, to me, we're playing Chuckle Brothers football.

29:00To me, to you, to me, to you. You have a chance, we'll have a chance. And it's like, that's Russian roulette, isn't it? That's not, you've got to be masters of your own destiny. And we just weren't, we were lazy. Delo is married into Carrick's family. It's his final Whistle United. Krish says, a draw fits. We hit posts. Our goalkeeper saved theirs. Both sucked. And that shows the position on the table were cooked. Carrick clearly out of his depth, says Krish. we are we're so open-minded with Rashford our blame brain fell out as one and only look I don't blame Rashford I don't blame Rashford he wanted to go to Barcelona and we fucked it up uh we tried to drive a hard bargain and we should have owned it we should have loaned him again we should have took 13 million and we didn't we put we drew a hard but we drew a hard bargain thinking if he didn't go there someone else would come in nobody came in and now he's starting for us he looks like a player without confidence.

29:52He looks like a player that's not really certain. And also, if I'm watching Rashford and going, what's he doing back at Man United? This is really weird. He's probably feeling the same. He's probably going, I thought I'd left. I thought I'd left this. And now I'm back again, again. And again, I'm in the same situation where half the fans don't want me here. And what's the project? So I actually, I do feel sorry for Rashford as well. but Carrick never should have thrown him in like he's fucking messy. He disrupted his own successful team to put Rashford in the team. What he should have done is started the season with Kunja on the left and then gradually moved Rashford in.

30:37Because if the results had been the same, you bring Rashford on and he does well and then he is the saviour. But throwing him straight into the team was just madness. But that's Carrick for you, isn't it? What's that all about? It just completely and utterly destroyed what was good about his team by breaking it all up. Rob Dawson said, we must be patient because you don't become a bad manager overnight. But Carrick was never a good manager. It was never sustainable, says Marlow. Patient for what, though? Respect to Rob Dawson and what he's saying, but patient for what? You don't become a bad manager overnight.

31:10But last season, I don't think we were a good team. We played one game a week. We won a lot of games by one goal. We played a lot of teams who had a man sent off. And we played counterattacking football. I don't think we were a good team last year. And we were very reliant on Bruno Fernandes crossing the ball into Casemiro and Maguire, which we can't do anymore. I mean, that's a great point as well. Why didn't anybody think to buy somebody that was good in the air? not necessarily a midfielder maybe a centre forward maybe another centre back maybe even a full back but maybe buy somebody that's good in the air this game should be what Watford's game was for Oli says Mojo with Amriem I never thought he didn't know what he was doing it was a performance issue but there was logic to his madness says Zane but the only thing that was going for Carrick last season was the counter-attacks but they can't even do that now says Salim or did you notice how Fulham counter wouldn't I've watched Fulham play this season and they can play quite open they didn't do it with us.

32:11They played the low block and countered and everybody's going to do it. Mark, let's be fair. Last year we were lucky, period. We relied on static football from set pieces. I agree, Alamir. Emac says, it's so scary to see how reliant Carrick is on Steve Holland and can't make big decisions himself. Kyrock says, I'm worried that we will sack Carrick and get Southgate. Quinster says, Carrick has to go. He'd rather put Xerxi and Mount on than Balaber and Lacey. Utter rubbish. I thought the substitutes were too late and wrong. Quinster. He's obsessed with Mason Mount as well. Carrick way out of his depth, but these players will get every manager sacked.

32:47I mean, look, I will say that, Will. It's not relevant because we're not sacking Carrick, but I do worry about the next manager coming in. You'd still have to, you've still got to deal with Rashford. You've still got to deal with Bruno. You've still got to deal with Mount. You've still got to deal with Deleuze. You've still got to deal with Shaw. I mean, it's tough. It's a tough job. It's a very tough job because we haven't cleared, we've not been ruthless over the years. Somehow interviews are worse than the performances, says Faith. I haven't seen what Carrick said yet. Fans that are Carrick in, are you trolls?

33:19If not, what do you see? It's awful. Well, there is a poll. Carrick in or out, 74 % are out, which is a lot considering there's no chance of it. Tillamons is unbelievably slow. Can't stand his body language either. Doesn't look sharp, fit or interested and his age will only get worse, says Marlowe. But again, Marlowe, that's just another failing on Carrick because I've told you this before. I know a lot of Villa fans and they're like, if you play Tillemans, he's got to have a defensive monster next to him. And I said, well, if you pay Manu, you've got to have a defensive monster next to him. And we're playing Manu and Tillemans together and we're getting run through the midfield.

33:50With two international breaks, we used to have two chances to change the manager. Now we've just got one. We need to be proactive. So it's press resistant. Do you really think Delo is a professional footballer? I just can't understand, Stephen, what Masraoui has done. I can't understand it. I just don't understand what it is about Deleu that gets him to play three 90 minutes in a row. Rash will sign an extension if Carrick stays, says Benny. Sick of fans solely blaming the board. Two things can be true, says Jim Jam. Carrick is inept. Tokyo says three points off dead last. Carrick out, says Tokyo.

34:21Carrick's out of his depth, but important to remember if you sack him, the merry-go-round starts again and will be back here in 18 months. That's not a reason not to sack him, McElvis. If you're not good enough, you're not good enough. The only two things Carrick control at this circus, the fitness of the players in team selection. The stats don't lie and team is a mess. MM says Rashford's a disgrace. We needed a defensive midfielder in Mateta, not Balaba. Anthony says more likely to finish 17th than second. Shifty Owl says had the easy games already and we've got only five points. Suk In says even though under Amrim we conceded a lot, players like Mbamo still tracked back.

34:55Only four United players in top 100 distance covered, says Harv. It's going to be bad, bro, bro. It's going to be bad, says Nicky. People, I love you, but we need to build something new as long as we're building this team around Bruno and other old players do not expect better, says Kiel. It's not Carrick's fault, but he was never the right man. I think that's the snack man. I think that is the thing. I don't, I'm not saying Carrick out, but I don't think he's the right man. But who appointed him? You know, I've not heard the name Jason Wilcox once in this show. This is the guy that kept Ten Hag, sacked Ten Hag, went for Amarim, sacked Amarim and then gave Carrick the job.

35:33Like, Carrick doesn't award himself the job. How did we all have these concerns and Wilcox didn't? Every concern we've had is coming home to roost. And they were obvious. You can blame Carrick for picking Rashford. I don't blame Rashford. I blame Carrick. But I don't blame Carrick for being Man United manager. I blame Wilcox. Like, how he didn't see these things, I don't know. how he didn't see that the results last year had a huge star next to them that it might be one game a week it might be very Bruno centric and Casemiro centric and also we're playing counterattacking football that's not very good how you give somebody a contract on that and then don't replace Casemiro and then don't give him good players it's amazing to me Carrick is biased towards strikers because he's a midfielder so it's plus sorry Carrick was never good enough for the role says A he got saved so many times during his interim period by Casemiro.

36:33Glenn says, Cunha scores after being going to the left wing. Cunha's better off the left wing. It's a great point. I want to know your opinion on the interim manager, the players will back him, but the second he is the permanent, they don't.

36:51But again, I said this multiple times between January and April, and some of you agreed with me. It's called the Di Matteo effect, and that's 13 years old. De Matteo took over Chelsea and won the Champions League and then he was fucking shit when he got the job. It's not even like, it's not even niche. Interim managers do well and then when you give them the job, they do shit. It's a landslide of good interim managers who do shit as a full-time coach. There's hardly anybody in the history of the Premier League that has been an interim, got the full-time job and done well. In fact, name me, Oli probably did OK, but ultimately it didn't work.

37:36This tells you the calibre of people we've got running our football club. Not have we done it once, we've done it twice. We've twice given an interim ex-player the full-time job. It's absolutely unacceptable that we're in this position when everybody said, this is a huge risk, don't do it again. Now, I know there were some people saying, give it carry, he deserves it. And fine, respect. Everybody's entitled to their opinion. But a lot of people said, are you having a fucking laugh? You're literally going to give the job full time to an ex-player who did well for a short period of time as an interim.

38:14It's crazy to me. It's crazy to me. But remember, guys, back three was the problem, says Andre. And here's the thing. Couldn't Sesco play the Casemiro role from set pieces? And yet he doesn't start him, says Steve. Exactly. If you want to see Bruno's issue, watch Portugal. The football is similarly bad against low blocks. Big lack of chance creation, says LA. Crap, I'm resigned to about seventh for Conference League. At least we'd be first team to win all three European Cups, says Gavin. Berada thinks 2028 is possible. Laughable, says Tobias. I will sack Carrick and go for Nagalsman this international break.

38:46We can still save our season, but we must act now, says Alas. I think there's absolutely no point in me even saying Carrick out because I don't believe it because it won't happen. And I think what we've got to do over the international break is hope that the players going on international duty can get some fucking fitness at a different environment. you know maybe spending a couple of weeks with England for Maynou will get his levels up to Elliot Anderson and you know Bruno with Jaunez and people like that and hopefully they can come back a bit fitter because we're so slow maybe the international break can be good for them

39:35but long term I've got no fucking idea how this is going to work and maybe Rashford can get a bit of confidence with England as well. Evening Mark, I think Maynou, Lemens and Lacey should leave the club. They're wasting their potential, staying in a club that has no prospects, says Delusion. Yes, Gleneos ruined our club, but we have the fourth worst fitness levels in the Premier League, false nine, and play the worst football since human eye. Oh, Andreas, the false nine bullshit does my head in. But what was it? To be fair, the false nine thing is a load of shit. What he said the other day about being unpredictable in the attack is a good thing.

40:07Oh, it can't be a good thing if your attack doesn't know what's happening. It's great if the defence thing you're unpredictable, but when your own team doesn't understand what you're doing, that's an unpredictable that doesn't work. But the false nine thing doesn't work. But to be fair, even if you wanted to change it today, you couldn't change that because there's no striker. We've got one striker in the whole team. Great question to ask Rooney. What he would do if he was in Bruno's shoes right now? Would he run and try and win a title somewhere else or stay and lose, says James. I will ask him that.

40:37The board is usual stupid. Carrick was never the man for the job, says Ray. And if Carrick leaves, what about Wilcox and Barada? Should they appoint a new one? They need to go. Wilcox needs to go. He's the director of football. Espen. I thought Fulham were poor too. I agree. Daily Belaber post coming over the international breaks, says Anthony. And I think we should just release Bruno, just like City released De Bruyne. Says David. Thank you very much. All right, let's do the player ratings because I know they're waiting patiently in the fan forum. But Goat Reviews says, if you keep making the same decisions, then don't expect change.

41:08The easy way out isn't always the right option. Stick to your words. And if you don't, you can get out. Wilcox, Barada and Radcliffe, all liars, get out of my club. And that we hope national team to help with fitness, says Ankit. Do you think they use the three week off to sack him? I don't think there's... Jack, if they sacked Carrick, it would show leadership, ambition and, you know, ruthlessness. They are none of those things. So there is no chance of that happening. It's 2026 and we're starting with Rashford, Shore and DeLoe. What do you expect to happen? Glazers out and Ineos out. This ad is sponsored by ZocDoc.

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44:24So I think that for me, he was definitely a man of the match. Definitely. The reaction to taking Kobi off says it all, says Lindsay. I didn't see that reaction. Let me know. Deleu, I just don't get it. I just don't. I don't get how he's playing him when you've got Masraoui. like you literally have somebody else. On a very basic level, Deleuze played badly for three games. You have an international right back who can play that position and you don't use him. I just, to me, this is almost like one of the big reasons Carrick can't be Man United manager because that one, I know people want to talk about Rashford and Bruno and Carrick and the Glazers and Ineos, but the thing that's messing my head up tonight is Deleuze has been bad for the three games where we've taken, we've drawn one and lost two.

45:18And we should have lost today. He's been bad. And yet he's played every minute of every game. And Masraoui doesn't play instead of him. It's just mad, mad, madness. Harry Maguire, five. Yeah, five. Below average, but didn't actually cost us. So, yeah. Look, Maguire, effort, you know, just doesn't look... I don't think Harry Maguire goes onto a pitch in a Man United shirt and doesn't try, which makes me think about fitness, which makes me think about coaching. These players are not playing for the manager. I'm not saying they're not going... I'm not saying they're going out there and deliberately not playing for the manager.

46:01I think the coaching and the fitness is so bad, it's impossible to play well against better coach teams who are fitter. You know what I mean? You might try... You might want to win a 100 metre sprint, but if you've got a sore calf, you're going to run slower than everybody else. And I just don't think the players are equipped. Martinez, I mean, he nearly scored a good goal in the first half, but I'd give him a four. I think he's got to do better on the own goal. I wouldn't blame him for the loss. God, no, there was more to blame out there, but it wasn't a good performance for him. It was so slow at the back.

46:38That back four is Ten Hag's back four from four years ago. how is that not being spoken about? I tell you what if Ruben Amrin was using 10 hogs back four last season there would be talk about it I wouldn't use a back four anyway but they would be going Michael Carrick is using 10 hogs back four that wasn't good four years ago and everyone's like don't say anything he used to play for Man United he's got a British passport Luke Shaw what did I give Deleu? what did I give Deleu? four yeah you can have a four as well Just very... Meh. Like a lot of people, a meh performance. Like, you're a Man United player and you're putting in performances like that.

47:22Meh. Tillemans, five. Made a good pass into Rashford. That was about it. But I wouldn't say he was as bad as the defence. I think he was... Maybe he was. I mean, God, we're arguing over different shades of shit at the end of the day, aren't we? Manu, probably his worst game of the season. Probably a five. Yeah, I thought Maynou actually wasn't very good today. I think in other games, like the Man City loss and the Everton draw, I thought Maynou played well. But today, I don't think he played well. I don't think Maynou was good today. I think he was below average today, in fact. Which is worrying because bad performances start to impact everybody.

48:05And Bermot was very bad for. He was very bad today. Anthony Robinson dominated him in fact most of the time he didn't track Anthony Robinson which is a big problem because Ahmad does defensively Embermo isn't as good as Ahmad and it's hurting us and we're going to get to Rashford but it's the same thing with Embermo the end product isn't enough and the defensive output isn't enough so it's a 4 Bruno I didn't even notice him in the second half 4.5 I always hold judgments on Bruno because in the last five minutes he might get a hat trick but another bad game I think apart from Ipswich he's been bad and I'm worried about Bruno because he's our best player but he looks tight somebody said do you think he's having a Salah?

48:56and I was like fucking God no you know there's no doubt Mo Salah's one of the greatest players the Premier League ever had but he was rubbish last season it was a season too much if Bruno's doing a Salah we're in big trouble I don't think he is but he looks off it there's not as much care in his final ball he's misplacing passes he's not winning tackles he looks a bit slower does he look interested says Cunnell I mean again I look at people like Harry Maguire and Bruno and they're playing badly and I think they're not the sort of players to go on the pitch and not try so is the coaching and fitness so bad that they're miles off where they need to be.

49:38I'm sure if Bruno had spent the last month with Arsenal, he'd be a better player. He'd be fitter. He'd be playing at a better team. I just think that the fitness and the coaching is abysmal at United and it's actually impacting the players' performance. And I wonder how long it's going to be before the players are knocking on doors saying, this ain't good enough. It's impacting me. This ain't good enough. Four for Rashford. Yeah, it was a bad game. It's the way we didn't want it to go. I think the first four games where he didn't get a goal or assist, you go, well, there's some good moments. Unfortunately today, it was a bad game with no goal and assist.

50:12So it's performance a dropping, which is worrying, really. Hopefully he can have a good international break, but I wouldn't have put him in the team. As I said, disrupted the team. He should have been coming off the bench. Why Carrick put him straight back in, I'll never know. Kunja, look, I'd have given Kunja a four, but because he got the goal, I'd give him a six. Needs to play on the left wing. Zerksi, barely noticed you. Five. Same with Mount. Five. Same with Dorgoo. Five. Carrick.

50:44I don't know. Three? 1.8? I mean, starting 11 doesn't make sense when it's not performing well. Subs way too late. Fitness on the floor. intensity and ambition non-existent. Style of play. It looked like a party for snails. It was rubbish. Man of the match will be Lemans, 73 % of the vote. Kunya and then a Manu in third, but a landslide for Lemans. Okay, let's get over to the fan forum. let's see what they've got to say lots of stuff to talk about as well let me just catch up on a couple more super chats up at 2am six times in Melbourne since start of the season it's sad love the show always cuts off the head the snake is Glynios Irish in Australia Miss Cavani says James thank you James Carrick's post-match comments is going soon 100 % says MPB why are we playing with inverted wingers says Grant Amrim also hated subs maybe it's not their choice but they just don't trust the bench cap.

51:58That's the problem. Carrick saying he's happy with the energy we showed today. He's gone, says River. Carrick just said he's happy with the energy we showed today. That's a question for Wayne. I think you missed my chat. If this bad season continues, will it affect getting investors for the stadiums, says Irish Ghost. I hope so. Hope so. Carrick post words have angered me. He's clueless, says Craig. Well, last week I ended up doing a video for 7am about Carrick's post-match press conference. So I might do that again because obviously the fan forum is going to be on at 8 o 'clock tonight. So watch out.

52:33If it's a really bad press conference, I'll drop a 7am reaction again. Carrick looks so happy in his post-match interview, says Zaheer. The problem is they're playing for the manager and this is the level, says Joe. No manager has finished his project since Raddick, says I was. And do a keep loan sale with Rooney, says Pug. Yes, that is a bloody brilliant idea. That is a great idea. OK, right. Let's get over to the Fan Forum because they are waiting and they're a good lot. Stay safe. Take care. I will do a reaction to Carrick's press conference by the sound of it. And let me... Please do subscribe to the channel as well.

53:14Thank you very much for being my company today. 74 % of you would sack Carrick. Speak to you in a bit.

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