Carrick Outclassed Again! Man United 2-3 Brighton Match Review

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1:56Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stand. Manchester United 2-3, Brighton 3 from a 2-0 lead in the Carabao Cup at Old Trafford. Manchester United have lost 3-2. And we need to talk about Michael Carrick straight away. I said a word. Look, I'm not going to be Carrick out. Like, the transfer window is abysmal. What the Glazers have done to this club over 20 years is horrific. the debt, the sacking of people, the tearing down of Old Trafford. It amazes me how they have survived this long and how they'll continue to survive because they've absolutely sabotaged and destroyed what so many of us hold dear.

2:35And they are completely responsible because they went down this road when many of us said, I don't like the idea of giving Carrick and a bunch of inexperienced coaches the job because they plastered the wound by playing part of the us counterattacking football when everyone else was playing two games a week. I think that is on the board. And the summer transfer window was atrocious. And I did know, like many of you, that that crap summer transfer window was going to come back and haunt us. I actually was thinking haunting Halloween. I thought we'd get to the end. I actually thought we'd start the season well.

3:11I didn't realise it was going to go tits up straight away. But the lack of buying fullbacks, bringing Rashford back. Santos doesn't look like he's any good. I mean, even Tillemans wasn't tracking back at the end either. I mean, it just looks an absolute shit show at the moment. And look, the tactics of Carrick at the moment, to me, I almost thought he was going to hand a post-it note to Herzl saying, stop it, please. I mean, that didn't seem to be again, much the same as the Manchester Derby, there just didn't seem to be any really understanding of what's going on. They didn't. They didn't seem to know what was going on at all.

3:51And as for our, I'm tempted, well, defensively as a team, we should be sponsored by PG Tips or Yorkshire Tea, because we're all standing around like we're waiting for the kettle to boil. No one's doing the bloody job. I think it's a bloody tea break. It's ridiculous. You know, I've seen a lot. You've seen a lot. We've seen a lot at Man United. We've seen the decline of Mourinho, Van Gaal, Amirim, Ten Hag, Oli, Ranić. Tell me this is any different. So when people say to me, what do you think about Michael Carrick? I have to say, look, I never wanted to give him the job. I wanted Iriola. You know, I wanted Emery.

4:31I wanted somebody who knew what they were doing. and I didn't want Carrick to get the job. It's there in writing. And I've been, I hate to say it, and I'm not going to say I, we have been right about a lot of things. Predicted the JJ thing, predicted that the transfer window being crap was going to be a problem. And also said, I didn't want Carrick to be the manager. Didn't want Carrick to be the manager. But what I did say is, when he got the job, I'll back him. So I am not going to sit here saying Carrick out or sack Carrick or anything like that, because when he got the job, I said I'll back him.

5:03didn't think it was the right choice but it's too early to be doing something like that however I don't see how this is going to work and there's a really big I don't see how this is going to work because you can't hide we do these watch-alongs together we do these match reactions instantly we've probably done hundreds of them and you analyse the games and you analyse the reactions I don't think those players are playing for Carrick I don't I don't think they respect it I don't I think it's almost like a fast track of what happened with Oli Oli came in got a few results got the job they liked him had a few more results and then they realized he wasn't really up to it and I think with Carrick they've realized it a lot quicker I don't think they think he's all that I don't I don't think the players really think he's all that at all um so he's either got to drag him out drag himself out of the sewer cleanse himself down and turn this around, or it's going to be however long it takes.

6:08Because he is woefully, woefully off at the moment. And we've lost three of our first five games and two of them at Old Trafford. And every game, one was 10 men at the weekend, 2-0 up today, 3-2 loss. Hull losing the lead twice at Everton. It's how many goals were conceding as well. It's defensively horrific. But the big thing I would say that lots of people don't really acknowledge with Carrick is that Carrick is inexperienced. He's inexperienced. He did get sacked by Middlesbrough. He can't lie. He's inexperienced. But Steve Holland, I don't rate Steve Holland. He was Southgate's right-hand man for eight years.

6:57I don't rate Steve Holland. Southgate ball is shit. Even if Steve Holland was a good coach before he worked with Southgate, he's had eight years with Southgate. You know, if a man goes to prison for eight years, it has a lasting mark on him for the rest of his life. So Steve Holland spent eight years with Southgate. For me, that's a worry. Woodgate? Who's bloody Woodgate? Who is Woodgate? Was he assistant coach at Middlesbrough with Carrick, yeah. Johnny Evans, brilliant player, never been a coach in his life. The coaching set-up's not good. And you can see it on the pitch. It's not good. It's not good.

7:33So look, I hope, I am not sitting here saying it's time to sack Carrick. I think that's ridiculous. And as I've said many times before, in a way, the fact that it's gone wrong so quick, we shouldn't be losing the memory of two weeks ago where we said if it goes wrong, it's on the board, on the owners. and I'm seeing people tonight saying Carrick out. Remember, it's only two weeks since the transfer window closed. And two weeks ago, you were saying if this goes wrong, it can't be on Carrick. It's got to be on the Glazers. So hopefully some people remember that you can change the manager, but you won't change the story.

8:08But I do agree two things can be right. The Glazers and Ineos are totally responsible for this football club's downfall, but Michael Carrick shouldn't be losing a 2-0 lead. Those two things are correct. And can I just say, I say the Glazers, I found something out tonight. Nice, owned by Ineos, bottom of the French League. Lezorne, owned by Ineos, bottom of the Swiss League. The women's team, shit, doing shit. The men's team, doing shit. I'm just saying, it's ridiculous. But look, looking at United tonight, look, the Carrick thing is going to carry on. But in many ways, I think there's just so many things to impact.

8:51We'll do the player ratings in a minute. But I want to start off with the subs for me. The goal that kills us is the goal that... Was it the equaliser? 2-2? People want to blame Sesco. You watch Deleuze, right? This is where I want to start. Deleuze receives the ball from Darlow. and then blindly kicks the ball towards Sesko, who is behind the Brighton defender. And that leads to the goal. Now, for me, the low was shit in the Manchester derby and played 90 minutes. And for me, the low has fucked us over tonight at 2-1 and played 90 minutes. So again, I look at the coach and I go, what message are you sending out?

9:40Because you took Lacey off after an hour and he was probably one of our better players. and you took Cescou off after an hour, and it's bloody obvious we're going to be chucking crosses into the box in the last 10 minutes, but you take him off. I thought the substitutes made us worse. Even though the players were better, I thought Kunja and Bermot, Manu and Bruno made us worse. I don't think the subs made us better. I think they made us worse. And I thought the subs were the wrong subs as well. I don't actually know what Xerxes brings to Man United. If it's Sabah, bring Xerxes on. But if it's anybody any good, I think he's an absolute waste of space.

10:20So I thought the substitutions were terrible. I think the signing of Santos is baffling. And I actually genuinely do believe we wanted Edison. And Edison injury happened. And we just knee-jerked Santos to save face. I actually think we wanted Edison. We tried to get Edison. and then when we realised it was too much of a risk, because we didn't want any negative PR, we just went and bought Santos. And I don't think we actually did any fucking checks on him at all because I think we actually just listened to bloody Rory Jennings who said he's a good player. I don't actually think we did any bloody research on Santos at all because Carrick clearly doesn't rate Santos.

11:04He subbed him off straight away today at 60 Minutes. He won't use him in the Premier League. He's had a full pre-season. He's cost us£50 million. We bought him from a Premier League club and he already looks like a busted flush. Santos looks like a flop already. And I feel sorry for him, but he looks like a fucking flop. Carrick won't pick him, subs him off after 60 minutes. He had all pre-season with us and he looks crap. So what did we buy him for? Does it not matter because he didn't cost£80 million? £50 million? Look, I hope I'm wrong on Santos, but... Sesco, some people are writing him off.

11:4068 million. I thought Ineos were changing things though. I thought Ineos were changing things. So yeah, the Santos thing. Right, this one. This one. Rashford. I'm just going to say this. This is not Rashford's fault. I think he'd be in Barcelona if he could. but Michael Carrick could not get Rashford back into that team quick enough 45 minutes of Hull and he's never dropped him since straight into the team now are we a better team with Rashford in it this year than we were last season? no does the front line look absolutely all over the fucking place? yes

12:27I'm not claiming this I didn't say this but a few people did bringing Rashford into this team is going to be a problem. And at the moment, it's a problem. It's not working. It's disrupted everything. Now, I don't blame Rashford. There'll be people going, oh, here we go with Rashford. I'm not blaming Rashford. I'm blaming the fucking club. I'm blaming the Glazers again. A year ago, get him out of our club because he's 300 grand. Let's get rid of him. At the start of the summer, he's off to Barcelona. Now he's starting every game on the wing with his head down, running into traffic. I don't know what we are.

13:00It's like we're trying to... It's like we're trying to be a fucking wish version of Oli's team, but everybody's older now. You know, it's just, I can't find many positives. I thought Lacey was a positive. I actually thought Yoro was a positive. I mean, the goalkeeper was shit, but, you know, let's just hope Lemens never, ever, ever gets injured. But apart from Yoro and Lacey, I'm struggling to find any positives. And you know what? At 2-0, I could see people online saying Bruno's the problem. Well, Bruno ain't the fucking problem, is he? Bruno ain't the problem. And when we were winning 2-0, people were going in on a 15-year-old saying, I'll have that.

13:43I mean, he looks right now, doesn't he? But look, it shouldn't be about that. It shouldn't be about Carrick. It shouldn't be about Rashford. It shouldn't be about Santos. It shouldn't be about Heaven or Darlow or Bruno or Mount or any other person. This has to be about the Glazers. It has to be because the only people that can solve this problem are the people who have caused the problem. And what I mean by that is, if I'm the owner of Man United tomorrow, I am sacking Carrick. I'm sorry, I am. If I'm the owner of Man United tomorrow, I'm sacking Carrick because it's my club now. I would never give him the job in the first place to say, thank you, Michael.

14:24Do you want an ambassadorial role? I'll give you a good payout. I'm clearing the debt I'm sacking Carrick I'm getting rid of half of that fucking team and I'm rebuilding it and I'm communicating with the fans and I'm explaining what I'm doing but that's not going to happen is it? but I've just solved Man United's problems tomorrow and you would probably do different things we're so locked up in blaming people that aren't actually responsible Marcus Rashford's not responsible he probably would be in Barcelona if he could be Santos is not responsible he shouldn't even be at the fucking club Michael Carrick's not responsible he's just a guy who wants to do his best who's not able to do it this always comes back to Sir Jim Radcliffe and the Glazers they're the people with the power to do something about it and they won't and the reality is we need regime change how many more times are we going to watch Man United humiliate us how many more times is this going to happen it's just coming round the corner Maybe we will beat Fulham.

15:24Maybe we'll get embarrassed. But I'll tell you what, if we beat Fulham on Sunday, there's another embarrassment coming next month. Whether it's Chelsea away, Spurs at home, Como, Atletico Madrid, you know it as well as I do. This is not a blip. This is not a, oh, a bad start to the season. This is permanent. This will keep happening. And the question is, how does it stop? You know, personally, I think there should be movements to stop Old Trafford being knocked down and the new building happening. Because I think once that starts happening, once those tractors roll into town, we're stuck with these owners for another decade.

16:03And the football's not going to change. So look, I think, yeah, let's hound another manager out, but the next manager will have the same problem. You know, let's castigate another player, but there'll be another performance like this. The reality is the only change that's going to matter is regime change. I mean, how many... The sad thing is, losing 3-2 to Brighton at Old Trafford from 2-0 up in the Carabao Cup isn't actually a shock. Last year, Grimsby beat us. Pink Boots Phil Jones lost us a game, didn't he, as well? How many years ago was that? It's nearly 10. This goes on for years and years and years.

16:42And I'm sorry, but just look, I don't think Carrick looks like he knows what he's doing. I completely agree. But pinning it on a manager or pinning it on a player, I mean, how many more times?

16:58I'll be honest, losing to Fulham at the weekend and having an international break of Michael Carrick out sickens me. I can't get excited about that. The only people I want out of this club are the Glazers. Even fucking Sir Jim buy them out and let's see what you can do. But until that happens, I just don't see any point in pretending anymore. And that's why for the last six months, we've been guessing correctly what's going to happen. Because things are getting worse. They are getting worse. And absolutely, the summer transfer window has led to this. If you have a transfer window that is less ambitious than Coventry and Ipswich, then this is what happens.

17:42But unfortunately, we do have Glazer cheerleaders in our fan base who think that we, what was the word the athletic used? Performative pessimist. That's what I am, apparently. I'm a performative pessimist. Yeah, yeah, because I've just coached the team to a fucking embarrassing loss in the Carabao Cup. I've put the club into debt. I decided to spend fuck all in the transfer window. I've run the club into the ground. I'm going to knock Old Trafford down. Yo, it's all my fault. I forgot about that. Sorry, everybody. I better start turning things around again. No. If you have a summer transfer window like that, and intelligent United fans say, this is going to fuck us over, and then you get fucked over, here we are.

18:28Here we are.

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20:39Multiple managers. Leopards don't change their spots. How many managers have Rashford, Maguire, Shaw, Bruno, Deleu sacked? Not individually, but like that's half your team has probably sacked, on average, three, four managers. And we expect something different. I mean, I just... I'm not blaming those players, by the way. I'm just saying, like, the change at this... The open-heart surgery that Rangnick said years ago still isn't happening. Because all the Glazers and Ineos want to do is repackage, perfume up, the same old shit, So you buy your season ticket and you buy your new kit and the brands come in.

21:33You know, the brands want your eyes, not the Glazers. And the Glazers want your money. And all it is, is just PR, PR, PR, PR to try and spin a positive. I mean, even today, you've got people going in on a 15 year old and his dad defending the Glazers. That's how brilliant they are. And tomorrow morning, something will happen that will make you feel positive about Manchester United. I don't know what we do, but we need regime change or this is going to keep happening year after year after year after year. That felt like Coventry getting two early goals against Arsenal. Brighton win felt inevitable.

22:17Oh, look, Isaac, I'm only going to say a few words on Brighton. They are a better team than us and that's their reserves. They play better football than us and that's their reserves. and they were away from home. Brighton are a better team than us. I think we can beat Brighton because they play quite open at the back, but realistically, they could have won 5-2. They had double the amount of shots that we had. Clueless Carrick, Gabriel gone, says Cy. I demand Wilcox explains now. Sack them all, says Gato. Look, it's a great point. Goldbridge's manager and owner, says Jake. I wish. It's a great point.

22:52We talk about the manager, but let me say this to you as well. I'm not going to name names, right? Since Ineos came in They've appointed a CEO A director of football A head of recruitment A head of development They gave Ten Hag a new contract And 300 million And sacked him three months later They brought Amrim in Gave him 250 million pounds And sacked him 12 months later They brought an interim in Gave him the full-time job And gave him next to no money and now we are here. At some point, we've got to realise the manager might be shit. It might not be the manager's fault, but people are making these decisions and staying in post.

23:40Realistically, even if we can't get rid of the owners, why are those owners not thinking my board has fucked up for two years? Every decision they've made has gone wrong. Mitch says I'd sack Wilcox it's the hope that there is manager out there that can work under this board I don't think there is Dan I think Michael Carrick will not get sacked because he's too nice and he'd do the job for free I think we're stuck in the cycle now but players aren't stupid you know in that last you know when it was 3-2 to Brighton there was no energy did anyone else notice that like when it went to 3-2 I've seen so many United teams, even in the last 10 years, where it's 3-2 and we lay siege to their goal.

24:28We didn't lay siege to their goal at all. We went to sleep. There was nothing. It was indisciplined as well. There was no structure to how we attacked. I was working a little. How did this happen? Says Rub. The only thing I blame Sesco for is the only reason Carrick has a job. Carrick fault, still club's fault for bringing him in. Is it to experience as Pedge? JJ left and for a 15-year-old to leave, the senior players must feel embarrassed and think, why should I stay if he thinks his career is wasted at United, says the Astro. I agree the board deserves blame, but you can't say they're responsible for this style of football, says Pistol.

25:01Well, they are. Because they appointed him. Look, I back Carrick. I want him to do well. I'm not Carrick out. Do I think he's going to survive? Probably not. I don't see how you come back from this. But I always say that. I think when the results go bad and you lose the fans, it's hard to get them back. I don't think he's at the point where it's like sack him, but I think he's lost a lot of respect in the fan base in the last few weeks with the games he's losing, etc. But just put my hand up in the air, I didn't want Carrick to get the job. I back him. I don't want him to get sacked now, but before he got the job, I didn't want him to get the job.

25:49I want to make that very, very clear. I didn't. For exactly this reason, I could see this coming a bloody mile off. I hoped it wasn't going to happen and I hope he can turn it around, but I could see it coming a mile off. And you know what? The people who'll be most vocal about Carrick out will be the people who wanted him in the first place. And the people who didn't want Carrick will probably be the ones that go, it's a shame, but we shouldn't have done it in the first place. Will Coxie survive a third manager sacking? Well, I don't think they will sack Carrick, actually. I think they'll double...

26:22I actually think they'll stand by their decision to protect themselves. I don't think they will sack him. I think he's probably safer than Amrim ever was, even though he might not do very well. Carrick, same mistake as Ten Hag playing Rashford, says Leo. Look, I don't want to make it about Marcus Rashford, but I will say this. Actually, I'll do it on the player rating, so it's fair. Strong manager next, Conte. he won't take the job Anthony no manager since Sir Alex has stopped a period of bleeding it's always plasters says Pokey if this doesn't provoke protests I don't know what will says Elhas owners are to blame but the players we have should be winning these games Carrick is a failed championship manager says Kieran need to sack him now only five games in says Cody I don't think there's any chance of that happening I had to look it up again sorry even before today's match the 84 streak only applied to league matches but I'm still saying this this ship isn't moving forward because it has already sunk, says Nosk.

27:18I'm not saying Carrick out, but I'm saying it is inevitable. Honestly, it is horrible to see a great of our club put in this position when he's not ready for this and has not been backed by the board, says Steve. I'll tell you what scared me as well. The way Tillemans lost the runner on the third goal was lazy. And I thought Tillemans did quite well today, but defensively, he ain't all that. And Santos wasn't all that. And we know that Mainou defensively is not his strongest part of his game. What scared me about today was Pascal Gross dominated every midfielder we had, whether it was Bruno, Mount, Mainou, Santos, Tillemans.

28:00Pascal Gross ran that midfield, right? Hull are a counter-attacking defensive side. Ipswich are, again, a newly promoted side. Everton, it was quite an equal game. Man City played most of the game with 10 men. That's the first time we've played against a decent midfield for 90 minutes and they fucking destroyed us. So Balaba better be the next Caicedo or we're in massive trouble because we've apparently rebuilt our midfield and it terrifies the shit out of me. It is so slow. There is so much space in our midfield and it is so slow. and unless Belaber turns out to be an absolute beast, that was a warning today of just what decent midfields are going to do to us because we were miles off it in the midfield.

28:54And you know what? Defence starts in the attack. Defensively, I mean, I'm not going to blame Lacey because he's a kid and he's not very big, but Rashford, Sesco, Mount, the defence starts with the attack. It was crap. It was absolutely crap. And in the second half, it was even worse. That's why they scored so many goals. You can blame the back four and Deleuze was shit, but there wasn't a lot of support in front of them either. Sat Carrick now before things get worse, says Desiree. I mean, look, you know what, Desiree? I actually disagree with you on that because I don't think, I don't know anymore.

29:38I sometimes think, sack the manager, this team's underperforming. I look at this team and I just don't know if it's underperforming anymore. I don't know. I mean, if you give the job to like Nagelsmann or Conte or even Pep in a, you know, whatever, you've still got Marcus Rashford there, Cunha there, Mbemo there, Mount there, Bruno. I just don't, I just, it doesn't look like, to me, it doesn't look like it's got the bones of a coherent team at the moment. It just looks an absolute mess. In many ways, this is, apart from when Rangit came in, this is an absolute mess of a team. It just doesn't look like you can fuse it into a team at the moment.

30:20You know, I'd never won a game on my birthday and I'm 22, says Michael. 40 game season again, where's Brown next appointment, says you. Glynios, zero ambition in the summer has caused this, says George. and Mark, if we lose Sunday, do you think the club will panic and sack Carrick? I feel they'll cover up their own failings by sacking him, says Mark. No, I think they'll double down on it, Mark. I don't think they'll want to sack him because it will reflect badly on them. The amount of ball Santos gave away and the low, my God, how bad is he? Says Grass Fever. Transfers were budget needs, not team needs.

30:53Can't build on trash. We'll be here again next season, says nobody that matters. Carrick will get sacked before the end of the season. The signs are already there, says Howdy. Look, what I will say about Carrick, and I think this is really important, it's too early for this now, but Wilcox and Barada, this is to you. You know more than I and any other Man United fan what's going on in that club. You will be speaking to players. You will know what's going on at Carrington. You will know the quality of the training. You will know the confidence in there. I'm telling you now, if it's as bad in Carrington as it on the pitch and it's a matter of time before you need to make a change, do it sooner rather than later.

31:36Because we cannot not be in Europe next season. Financially, it'll kill us. We can't not be in Europe next season. So look, they know what's going on behind the scenes. If it's shit, you need to make the change. Because what we can't do is let's see how it goes. And it gets worse and worse and worse to a point where you're completely out of Europe. We can't do that. We can't do two years out of three out of Europe. It will kill us. Absolutely kill us. So look, that's the only thing I would say. Yeah. Carrick on the Carabao Cup exit. I take responsibility for it. the performance towards the end of the second half is my fault.

32:19Good. Good. I think that's a positive. I think we need to move past. I respect that. I respect Carrick. I like Carrick. Brilliant player. Brilliant player. But he's the man for Man United. But I respect the fact that he's taking responsibility because I'm fed up with the whole, we're a good team, we're going to get better and all this bollocks. You've got to face up to it. It's three losses out of five. I mean, at the end of last season, people were talking about, oh, you know, can't remember, can't remember everyone used to do it every week. Points in 2026 would be top of the league. Yeah, they're not doing that anymore, are they?

32:58Do you think Carrick would resign?

33:05No, no. I think this gets asked all the time. No, I don't think he would. I mean, I'd respect him massively if he knew it was a fucking shit show and he left. the only reason, the only way I'd want Carrick to leave is if,

33:25is, we would have got Man City if we got through. Man City or Norwich against Brighton. The only way I'd want Carrick to leave is if he was like, this club is rotten to the core. I love it too much and I respect the fans too much to carry on. It's a fucking shit show. I'm leaving. I'd love that. I have a video of me last March when we were winning predicting Carrick will be sacked by December if he gets the full-time job, says Flop of the Season. Well, that's one competition done. Two left for one in a week, says Hill Narge. JJ was right. The club is a sinking ship and it's thanks to these owners, says Alberton.

34:00Wish him luck at Madrid. Protest needs to come back. We're pathetic fans. Anything to be hopeful for? I feel defeated, Mark, says Stanley. I don't think there's much to be hopeful for at the moment. I think the transfer window was a disgrace. I think it ended a lot of people's hopes before a ball was kicked. And we will not replicate what we did last year. We will not finish third. So we're almost playing for fifth, I think. I think we're hoping that England gets given five Champions League spots and we can get fifth. I think that's what we're looking for at the moment. Empty Old Trafford, the only way to stop this nightmare, Sir Stephen.

34:35Look, I said this before tonight's game. I can't be arsed with Wilcox and Barada and all that. I think everything's got to be thrown at the owners from now on. Everything. Everything. You know, forget players, managers, Barada, CEOs. This has got to be at the owners now. If they don't change, we're not going to change. People always blame Rashford for getting the majority of the team is shit, says Kez. I don't think people are blaming Rashford. I think it's just confusing having Rashford back in the team with his head down, running into traffic. We saw this three years ago. I thought we'd moved on.

35:13I thought he'd moved on. Maybe he wanted to move on. I just don't get what we're doing as a team with Marcus Rashford back on the left wing. It just seems strange. Look, it could have been 3-3 if he'd scored that chance. Probably should have scored that chance. I don't really hold it against him. It was a good save. It's no worse than Mbermo's against Man City, is it? But I don't blame Rashford for missing that because ultimately I think it would have papered the cracks. I think Brighton deserve to win. I think they missed better chances to make it four than Rashford did to make it three. I kind of enjoyed the JJ story and is playing worse football I've seen because it exposes the board as the most incompetent clowns ever, says Marlow.

35:54No yellow cards tells you everything. No aggression, says Johnny. At this point, it's worth asking, are we cursed, says Matt. Just need to say one thing. I wanted the guitar, says FCS. You and me too. I just can't fathom how this gets any better, Mark. Tuna, says Tuna. We've been nothing but shit since the beginning of the season. Sesh says, perfect car with one flag. Tire can't drive, says Deleu. Terminate, heaven's sure. Deleu, Xerxi, take cash from me, says Mustafa. Jay says, terrible decision. Let's take off our striker and put on someone with the ability of a stone and the finishing of a castrated bulldog, says Jayden.

36:29Brighton do not have stars but play much better than us, so having a great summer transfer window makes no difference. We need better coaches, says Leo. American football owners and a cycling team running a football team is a recipe for disaster on any piece of paper. Never mind a football pitch, says Jack. Imagine if Mbermo missed Rashford's chance, says Darren. Mentioned this the other week. Five games in, two weeks has killed this squad. Manager not good enough, but fans wanted this and told us the back it, says Echo the Games. And at United, we approach every competition to win it. Omar Varada at the Champions League draw, says 8-3-3-simple.

37:03Casemiro's headers were hiding this hammering, sacking wrong, says Gato. And I'm happy we lost. I hope we fail Glazers out says Wesley Vic says never ending start cycle it comes from a manager with potential to the players turning on him to get in a club legend to save everything to doing the same we can't why can't we just thank an interim rather than giving them the job says Sammy you know what it's quite a profound thing isn't it why do we always have to reward an interim with the with the fucking contract why can't we say thank you very much now we're going to start the rebuild this is proof of what happens when you don't back the coach with players and a proper coaching staff, says Tony.

37:43Carrick prioritised ball work over fitness in pre-season. It's biting as hard. Lose to 10 men. Have a day off. Lads, not all on him. Bored to blame, says Geordie. Disgusting from United. No tactics. Intensity. Urgency. Xerxes shouldn't be allowed to put on the shirt again. Abysmal body language. Yeah, but he was cooking against Sabah, mate. He was cooking against Sabah. I'm telling you, He's not up to it. I don't really want to make it about players, but Delo was fucking awful again. Cirque C is a waste of time. I don't understand. Let's leave it. I'm starting to hate supporting the clubs as Alex.

38:19So with Oli, we were worked out completely in the end, but here this is just not working. I can't even say that this is tactical. It's just pathetic, says Krez. They don't care. No passion. The club is dead. We are crap. Every year just gives me misery and depression, says Quinn. every game Carrick is making it harder to back him he needs to change something quickly that's not forgetting the board says Adam we fell for the manager bounce again says Art and say up the Fulham mark says Donzo player power and the club's insane loyalty to technically terrible players sinks another manager at this point just play the academy players says Sam Kevin Beth laughed at me after the Ipswich game when I said to get Emery or Howe no top club hires the assistant coach of a manager they sacked

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40:40Visit gab.com slash getgab and use code getgab for an exclusive offer. That's G-A-B-B dot com forward slash get Gab. Gab, tech in steps. Independence for them. Peace of mind for parents. This is Ryan. And I don't want to hear anything about Carrick or any of the players. This is all on the boards. It's Elliot Wallace. Thank you very much. Right. I'm going to do the player ratings. Remember, you can register for this all season. It's free to do it. Theplayerratings.com. Links in the video description and in the live chat. You mark every player out of 10. six being the average and we aggregate all your scores against the score I'm going to give the players look in relation to Darlow I'd have had more confidence in a cardboard cutout if I'm being honest then that's what you have to do in a player ratings but it's a first game in a Man United shirt at Old Trafford and it's a baptism of fire and so many goalkeepers seem to struggle with this and he did so I'd give him a three the low I would say look I know a lot of people who know Deleuze I don't know him but I think he has a heart of gold I think he really cares about the club I think he's a ridiculous hard worker but Rooney's put it best on Tuesday he's got the passion he just doesn't have the quality and ultimately Deleuze for me is just like I don't know whether you ever had this and I'm not going to name her because it's not fair.

42:16But there was this girl at my school called Karen. There was this girl at my school, right? And we were like, we got on really well, like really well. Same sense of humour, went to the same primary school, then secondary school. We got on really, really well. And there was always this, like, if I fancied, and I think she fancied me. I mean, she's only human. and I always thought if I did fancier that it would be perfect but I never did I never did and it was like you can't fake it you'd probably be brilliant but I just don't have that connection you know I literally just see you as a friend and I feel a little bit like that about Delo there's definitely no relationship there No, but what I feel is I think he's got everything to be a Man United player.

43:13You know, he's not an arsehole. He does work hard. He gets what the club's all about, but he just doesn't have the quality. In fact, there are players in that team who have the quality, but don't have the dedication, attitude and passion that Deleuhe has. It's a shame you can't take, I don't know, I'm not going to name a player, If you could take everything about Deleu and give him somebody's quality, it'd be perfect, but he's just not good enough. Three, just not good enough. It's horrible, but it's just not. Jorreau, I actually think, was one of our best players. I would give him a six. I think people are just angry because we lost, but I actually don't think Jorreau did anything wrong.

43:57I actually think, I was watching the game, and I'm not digging out Maguire. if Maguire had played tonight we'd have still lost it wasn't Yoro's fault tonight I thought Yoro played well I'd give him a six Heaven you know what I'm sympathetic to Heaven and I'll give him a five you know what this is what happens he's been in the first team doing well and as soon as Martinez is fit you're out and the same thing happened last season it's really confusing for young players when they do well and then they're out the team because are our senior pros back now. It's like Lacey being taken off after an hour today for Mbumo.

44:35Why? Why are you doing that? Why are senior players who don't perform getting preferential treatment? Mas Raui was better than Deleuze. He struggled a bit, but he did help us get the second goal. So I'd probably give him a five as well. Tillemans, for a lot of the game, was good. But defensively, in the second half, I'd use the word lazy, five. Santos, four. I mean, it was... I don't know whether these Chelsea fans are in a WhatsApp group and said, tell the United fans he's brilliant because I just don't. I never noticed him at Chelsea. I never did notice him at Chelsea as a good player. I said that when we bought him.

45:20All this, oh, he's a really good player. I never, ever looked at Chelsea and went, that Santos is a good player. I thought Lavia was good, but he was always injured. Obviously, Caicedo and James and Enzo, but I never noticed Santos. So I don't know. But loads of people told me, oh, he's brilliant. Chelsea fans are gutted. I don't think Carrick thinks that. Lacey would get my man of the match and I'd give him a seven. I thought the goal was brilliant and it was completely about his ability. I thought he worked really hard. Look, there's no doubt he's probably not ready in the sense that I wouldn't necessarily start him every week.

45:57but he's certainly somebody who should be getting half an hour here and there and building him out. Unfortunately, I just don't think that's going to happen in a team that's shitting itself. I don't know how we're going to develop Lacey in a team like that because if he was at Man City or Arsenal, they'd be using him. They'd be giving him half an hour here and there but at United, I just don't know whether we'll do it. But he was definitely man of the match. And I'm not saying he was superb, but he was definitely our man of the match. Mount, again, Mount scored a goal, but defensively and work rate, I thought it was really crap.

46:43Five. Rashford, I sort of spoke about Rashford. Right, look, I want to make it very, very clear with Rashford. I've had a very open mind about Rashford. A lot of people didn't want him back. A lot of people did want him back. and I said, look, he should be in Barcelona. I'm sure he wants to be in Barcelona. I wish he was in Barcelona. I think the club wanted him to be in Barcelona. So let's just remember he's probably here through no fault of his own. Or people will probably say, well, it's his career, but whatever. What I find really strange about Rashford is the reintegration into the first team.

47:18It's been weird. I mean, I do not think he should have gone straight into the team. and he nearly did score today, but it's no goals in five games. And I just don't know why he's gone straight back into the team. I think it would have been better for him to be on the bench because he's trying too hard. Look, the second goal does come from him and the shot, but how many times did he get the ball in good positions today and lose it? I think about eight. so I think Carrick's got that completely wrong I don't think he's helping Rashford I don't think it's helped the team and it certainly hasn't helped results I think he's just got him straight back into the team as quick as he could and it does hurt his defensively he's never going to work hard defensively he's never going to do it it's just not the style of player he is and Konya did and I think he should have started on the bench more and worked his way back into the team.

48:23But Carrick, for whatever reason, has thrown him in and it's not working. Like we're not getting the goals. We're not getting the output for the lack of defensive output. So it's not anti-Rashford to say that. I just think he's been thrown into the team too quickly. And I don't know why that is. Today, probably, I think 4.5. 4.5 yeah 4.5 Sesco 4 wasn't very good today lack of service ridiculous again looked off the pace looked frustrated looked low on confidence baffling why we took him off unless he's not fit because it was obvious we were going to need a target man in the last 10 minutes and we took him off.

49:19But he didn't have a very good game. Xerxes, I mean, he was one of the players that came on at 2-2 and proceeded to do fuck all for the next 20 minutes defensively and we got overrun. So for me, I thought his performance from the bench was shit, three. Mbemo didn't really get in the game, four. Maynou always tries and he's probably one of our best players, six. uh bruno i think i think bruno in a game like that is a bloody nightmare because he's he's almost got his cape on he's he's like he's like bruno man he's like shooting from here trying this that and you know and you just probably want a little bit of let's work it into the channels let's put crosses into the box let's work it work it work it patience and then shoot shoot shoot so it wasn't very good for.

50:13Cunha, I didn't really notice. Four. Carrick. I mean, God. I mean, what do we give Carrick in the Manchester derby? Two. I'm going to give him three. I'm not going to go as bad as that. I'll give him a 1.6. Yeah, I'll give him a three because remember six is average, five is poor, four is very poor and three is bad. Two is horrific and one is get out of my club. So I think it was bad. I think it was bad I don't think it was horrific I think it was bad and I think it was bad because Brighton are better than us and that's a coaching deficiency his subs didn't work and that's a coaching deficiency and when you're 2-0 up at home you shouldn't lose 3-2 so I thought it was bad it was bad from Carrick today which is the second game in a row and the scary thing is that the last two games have probably been on him Man of the match 89 % Can you see that on the screen?

51:15Hopefully you should Player ratings Remember to register for it There we go Let me move it up for you So 89 % for Shea Lacey But second place has got 3 % I mean that just shows you How Yoro third in It's just ridiculous How bad everybody else was Wasn't it? But Yeah An absolute shit display from Manchester United tonight yeah there's not a lot to say is there Fulham at the weekend and an international break and I think for the for our own sanity even though it will only pay for the cracks because it's one game and October is a very bad month we have to beat Fulham on Sunday a draw or a loss is the same you have to beat Fulham on Sunday Otherwise, I don't know.

52:11And look, going forward as well, forget Fulham. I think the hardest thing for Carrick and the players now is the realisation that the criticism is real, that the problems are real, and that you can't just go, well, we've just won loads of games and got the Champions League. It's forgotten. That's football. great YouTube channel by the way but that's football like what you did last season means nothing this is now and the criticism is real the bad performances are real and the issues are real and what comes with that is stress it's like looking at your bank account with two weeks till payday and you're out of money and you're like I've got to pay this bill this bill, this bill he is stressed he has got stress now you know his hair is going to go a little bit greyer, he is under pressure now and that's a very different type of thing because what he did well last year was get results with one game a week and a pretty much fully fit squad with people like Casemiro in your midfield, they've never replaced Casemiro by the way which is just ridiculous he's now got double the workload with a weaker squad and pressure so he's under pressure now he's under pressure now Pete says do you think they've downed tools already?

53:41I don't think they ever picked them up mate I don't think there's ever been a consistent period with this squad really even with one game a week there were still bad results like Leeds at home Newcastle away West Ham away we just got more results than everyone else I think he's gone in two weeks says Kiel we have the worst fullbacks period says George can't wait for stick to United says Crash Gaming well hopefully we'll have beat Fulham by then say one thing Carrick done well this season I can't says Mr United and Merce beat Ipswich Perth says it's not the manager's fault I was one of the mob against Derek McInnes at Rangers now look at his stock after weekend keep the faith in Carrick says Perth I hope you're right where are Beth and Mauds want to hear their excuses for Carrick haven't been backed things says Desiree sick of fans shouting Carrick out says Lorcan should he have got the job no but how many times does the cycle have to repeat poor recruitment Blaber had his head in his phone and his feet up in the stands on TV every game mistakes from the back doesn't matter who you're up against we come back says Shea I think what one takeaway I would say about the defence is stop focusing on the back five look at last season you got Casemiro you've got Mbamo you've got Kunya you've got Bruno and you've got Manu they're a shield like Kunya and Mbamo work very hard and Ahmad in fact it wasn't Mbamo it was Ahmad on the right say what you like about Ahmad's output but defensively he works really hard and Kunya works really hard we've got neither of those two players at the moment Mbamo was playing up front mainly didn't play on the right Rashford wasn't here.

55:33So, Cunha and Ahmad gave us a lot of defensive cover. We have neither of those now. One by Carrick's decision to put Rashford in and one because of Ahmad's injury. So, don't just think defence being the back four. It's actually the work your wide players and your midfield do as well. We've lost Casemiro and Ahmad and Cunha. That's three big defensive players in front of our back four that we've lost. Do you think it's time to start the FC United stand? Maybe we can sign JJ, says Bayern. Is that the halftime record gone? No, because it was to do with league games, Charles. Missed my previous super chat.

56:15Why don't we take the Brighton approach to rebuild, hire a good technical coach, dismantle the squad and invest on improving the training, scouting and infrastructure, says Sahaj. We don't need to take the Brighton approach. We're Manchester United. We need to take the fucking Arsenal approach or the Man City approach or the PSG approach. We need proper ownership. Mark, do you have an email address to have a proposal to get us out this mess, says Blackbeard? I can't remember it now. Can't bloody remember it now. That's footballmedia at gmail.com. I think that's it. Anyone? No, that's not it. I don't think that is it.

56:49Let me get it.

56:53It's probably going to be a crap proposal now.

57:00No, I was right. It was that, yeah. Anyone remember Brailsford's strategic review? Even Brailsford doesn't remember that, Jude. Does this mean our halftime record is finished? We've done that. Surely this pushes... That was from Sam. Surely this pushes Bruno to make a decision as soon as January. He looks frustrated. I'd love Bruno to hand in a transfer request. Rooney and Goldbridge in January, says Luke. Imagine that. All Glazers care about are the spreadsheets, not the football club, the plays on the pitch. that's why they gave sporting control to Ineos says Axel I was at the game no player deserves higher than a force is chilling with Roberts yeah can we get thoughts and prayers to all the people who've travelled up to Manchester tonight because I know there'll be a lot of people who live in Manchester but there'll be a lot of people driving up and down motorways tonight having watched that shit they seem to ruin my year I just have no hopes says Frank I'm tired of being lied to by this board and well at least we can agree with Sir Jim that we want to be more like Brighton because we are clearly not on their level, says Dan.

58:02And it's all on the Ineos, but it has to be studied how great signings like Cunha and Invermo look so bad so quick. Deleuze brings everyone down, says Guy. Fans complaining tonight will swallow PR tomorrow, says Big Timer. I figured that one out a long time ago, by the way. You know how new Man United signings go shit very quickly.

58:23Basically, it doesn't matter how luxurious the boat is, if you put holes in it, it will sink. It will sink. And it doesn't matter how healthy the individual is. If you infect it with poison, it will get ill. And you can see it. I've seen it for years. You bring these good players in full of exuberance and talent, and they change. Embermo at Brentford and Cunha at Wolves are nothing like what they are at Man United and yet they should be better because it's a bigger club with a bigger platform and supposedly better players. But the attitude stinks. The attitude in that football club stinks. And I'm not making excuses for them, but if we are delusion, not delusional, we're not delusional, if we are confused and fed up and uninspired.

59:23These players don't live in a bubble. All right, they earn good money, but they go to work for an organisation that's got no ambition. Now, if you work at Man City as a player or Real Madrid as a player or PSG as a player, you go to work and you know the demands of those clubs is to win the Champions League and your domestic league. That's your aim. And if you don't do it, you might get moved on next summer. so I go I go and play for Man City right or I go and play for Real Madrid I turn up for pre-season the aim this year is we're going to win the we're going to win our league and we're going to win the Champions League and at Christmas we're third in the league and we're not doing well in the Champions League and there's a meeting and it's like look either turn this around or you're gone in the summer no one's guaranteed to be here next year and your Real Madrid or Man City career is over you know there's standards there's consequences at Manchester United you rock up in the summer we're off to US to do a bit of PR what's the ambition for the season?

1:00:26well we've got to save a little bit of money really because we've got to build a stadium so we're not setting any targets this year okay alright so there's no standards there's no expectations and they've got no money so no matter what I do I'm not expected to win the league and they're not going to get rid of me either and that's Wang United's problem really we don't set standards in the dressing room and we're not ruthless in removing players so look if I'm Mason Mount or Luke Shaw or Mbumo or any other player or Xerxi I'm not here to win and I'm not here to be sold if I don't win I'm here to earn money and that comes from the very top I'm telling you now if we were run properly these players would perform better or they'd be gone but we've set no standards at this football club there are no consequences at this football club so you end up with an inconsistent attitude because no one is setting the standards no one thank you so much everybody for tuning in I am back with you on the morning show tomorrow it's Thursday tomorrow isn't it So, yeah, we're working towards the cup final of Fulham at Craven Cottage on Sunday because it is a fucking cup final.

1:01:48I genuinely think if we lose that game, it's...

1:01:55I don't think they'd make a change in the international break, but you'd be looking at a change before Christmas if it carries on. Definitely. Thank you so much. Take care. I'll speak to you on the next one.

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