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2:00Pears are bloody mess.

2:29owners. There is also talk of a break clause for Michael Carrick. He spoke about his tactics for Chelsea and Man United are willing to enter the January transfer market. What do you think about that? I just want to laugh. I want to laugh at your bullshit PR. You're willing to enter the January transfer market. Let me just file that away in the draw that Elliot Anderson is the player we're signing for nine months. Then it's Tonali. Bullshit PR to try and buy more time. You You're not getting away with it anymore. You're lying. You're leaking and you're lying. You PR spinning liars. Yeah, you could have bought players in the summer.

3:08You're now going to buy players in January. Bullshit. Anyway, look, let's get into the show. Great to be live with you. Thank you everybody who watched the video I did with Carriger today. I really enjoyed that. That's on Overlap Daily. You can check that out. Previewing the weekend. Lots of Man United chat on there, actually. But where are we at with Manchester United? So look, lots of stuff coming out today. I think some of this will probably hit the papers over the weekend. Busy day, but very good information coming in around Carrick's dismissal tomorrow if they lose to Chelsea. You might have seen it in a couple of other places.

3:45We've also been told some other stuff as well. It's good sourced information. So basically, I've got the notes on it here. There is a rumour going round that if he loses tomorrow, he's gone. I don't know. I don't. I personally am just going to say straight away, look, I'm just giving you the news. But I just, I mean, look, Man United are crazily incompetent. But how does that even work? You lose to Chelsea tomorrow. You sack him tomorrow evening. We're flying to Rome. Oh, no, no, we're not flying to Rome. We are at Old Trafford. So, I mean, but, like, I just don't buy it. I don't buy it. I think Carrick's here till the international break, no matter what, which is ridiculous.

4:25because if he loses to Chelsea but then beats Villa, does he keep his job? It's a load of shite. But I personally don't believe the rumour. I don't think you can turn it around that quick that if he loses tomorrow, you sack him and you get a manager in for Monday ahead of a game on Tuesday. I mean, I think you'd end up with an interim, which I don't know. Maybe we should do that. I don't know. But look, that rumour is going round. What we've been told, though, and I think this is this stuff I do believe right so there's a few things here there is mass confusion and I've seen some clips tonight of the players heading to the train station and people are saying they look lost they look like defeated already I mean I don't know how you pick that up from people carrying a rucksack to go on a train to play away against Chelsea tomorrow but what we are getting is a lot of leaks at Man United and over this week there's a load of stuff we could have told you I just don't know whether it was you don't know whether to believe everything.

5:27This is coming from a good source. So very, very uncertain mood in the Man United dressing room. It's not a good place. And you'd expect that. I mean, that's not dramatising anything. You'd expect it to not be a very good place. We're in a very bad position. And even the most professional Man United player, and if you can find one, please tell us. But if you imagine a player in that Man United dressing room who really cares, who's really ambitious, you'd be pissed off. Maybe Bruno Fernandes is right. You'd be pissed off because you'd be like, it's another season in the trenches. We finished third.

6:03We're in the Champions League. You'd hope to kick on. And it's another season as it always is. One good, one bad, one good, one bad. So there's a lot of uncertainty and there's a lot of confusion in the dressing room. And the general consensus is that Michael Carrick's not the guy to do it. basically been told that when Martinez and Bruno are speaking publicly about the problems at Man United and the manager isn't, there's this feeling in and around the club and the dressing room that he's just not the man for the job. The players are frustrated with the summer transfer window. They're frustrated with the ownership.

6:43So much so that Bruno and Martinez have spoken out, but Carrick hasn't. so there's this feeling in the dressing room that Carrick is more the board than he is the players and I mean that's a dangerous situation isn't it and it's an interesting way to look at it that you know there isn't this unity in the dressing room with the manager because he's more in unison with the board and the dressing room are pissed off with the board so there's this there's this confusion obviously I think they want to win tomorrow and I think Carrick's well liked but But it's like Roy Keane says, pity is not the thing you want.

7:20I think there's a lot of people in the dressing room that like Michael Carrick and respect Michael Carrick, but don't feel he's the leader that they need. There is this, you know, it's felt that he's more towards the board than he is to the dressing room because he just won't say anything bad about the board or the club. So there's that confusion there. There's also huge confusion around what's actually happening. I mean if we as a fan base are confused and I'll put my hand up I'm confused I don't know whether Carrick's staying till the summer Christmas tomorrow the international break I genuinely don't know there's a lot of people guessing and on the show today Carriger was basically saying he thinks that Carrick's gone in the international break no matter what happens in the next three games I don't know I don't think that I'm not confident about that at all the only thing I was confident about was that he'd get sacked on Monday and he didn't so the dressing room is really confused obviously there's this feeling that Carrick's not up to it.

8:16There's also this confusion about what the board are going to do because they've not been given any guidance at all. There's not really been a public backing for Carrick. You know, it's not like the board have come out and said Carrick's the manager for the next three years or anything like that. So there's this big confusion about the direction of the football club. This is really difficult for a professional footballer because you sort of like the season's not going the way you want it to go. And this week, all they're hearing is we've got to beat Chelsea. But what about after Chelsea? What about after the international break?

8:46What about the rest of the season? What about Christmas? What about the chance? There's no direction. And it's confusing because it's almost like, well, let's just beat Chelsea. And then what? So there's big confusion. There's also, and I think this is the best thing we got told today. It's very clear that the club are talking about whether Carrick stays or not, another new plan. This is very disruptive for the dressing room because it's sort of like all they're hearing is clear out another new plan. Most of these players won't be part of that plan if there's a new plan and it's another new plan.

9:21And if you're a younger player, oh, it's another new project. So there's this confusion around that as well. they're hearing about clear outs players coming in transfers it's just very confusing it's a mess and you know I'm not here to be sympathetic to the players I'm just telling you what we're being told by sources and the dressing room of Man United is a very confused and rudderless ship at the moment people are demanding that they go out there and try and work hard but is that just for Chelsea? Is it for the rest of the season? You know what direction is the club going in? Again it's that void above Carrick.

9:58What is Manchester United? What is the direction? What is the aim for the season? Are they happy with mid-table? Are they happy with relegation survival? Are they happy with fifth? Like, nobody really knows what's going on. And there's loads of players that need new contracts as well. So it is a bloody mess at the moment. And also, there's this confusion about who's actually running the club. Because there's a lot of stuff going on at the moment of a disharmony between Ineos and the Glazers. And there's just no ownership. There's no accountability. What the source said to me today is that there's literally no accountability at that football club at the moment.

10:41Nobody's owning anything. Carrick, the players, the CEO, the director of football, the Glazers, Ineos. Nobody's actually just gripping the problem and saying, let's solve it. It's just this massive confusion in and around the club. That's a dangerous thing to go into Chelsea for, by the way. I mean, look, you can vibe it. I think that's what they're hoping for. They're hoping for a vibe result of, you know, just everybody turn up for one game and try really hard like a cup final. And maybe that will happen. But I don't think there's much beyond that. I was having this conversation today. If Man United beat Chelsea tomorrow, I don't think we can all go, oh, thank God, that's that problem sorted.

11:25I think it just rolls on to the next game. I mean, look, Anfield straight after the international break, go there and get beat, which we probably will. And, you know, everything's crashing down again. So very confusing. Look, I'm intrigued to see how it goes tomorrow. But let's not pretend that the dressing room is a place of harmony and, you know, focus. it's very unfocused it's very you know leaderless at the moment and we'll see how that plans out in a very important game against Chelsea of course Fabrizio Romano has come out tonight and said that Manchester United's most appreciated manager in terms of potential candidates is Unai Emery he's the one they love for sure I mean that's interesting from Fabrizio Romano to come out and say that because the...

12:24I'm just reading this from Mike Keegan. Manchester United's trip to London for their match with Chelsea has not got off to the best of starts. The travelling party got stuck in traffic on the way to Stockport and the service from Piccadilly had to be held so they didn't miss it. Apparently when they did board, Carrick was cheered by fellow passengers while some of his players were booed. Not a major drama. Delay was around seven minutes. Why are people cheering Michael Carrick? I mean, look, I don't really care. I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled to yours. But I'm eternally perplexed by why Michael Carrick is getting cheered and the players are getting booed.

12:58I'd love to have this debate with somebody. Like, why are you cheering? I mean, I've got no problem with you booing the players. But why are you cheering Michael Carrick? It's the worst start to a Man United season in Premier League history. We've got one win in eight. The football's shit. The tactics are shit. The fitness is shit. And he's being cheered for it. And if his name was Ruben Amrim, he'd be getting all sorts of pelters. I just don't get the cheering of Michael Carrick. I mean, it literally is cheering failure. He's not playing in the midfield being magic anymore. He's the manager of Man United and people are cheering him and booing the players.

13:35I find it wild. Wild. And I don't want Michael Carrick to be bad. He was one of my favourite players. but there are standards and I don't know why he's getting away with it. What? He is absolutely responsible for picking the team and the results and he's being cheered for it. It's mad. He's absolutely... I'm going to sound like Orville. Magic. He's magic. Carrick. It's mad. That's magic. It's madness. It's absolute madness. I just don't get it. I understood why he was cheered on Sunday because it felt like it was a goodbye but cheering him is the fucking manager it's mad it's absolutely mad but you know the world's a crazy place anyway going back to what Fabrizio Romano said about Unai Emery I've got to say don't you just feel like with Emery and it's interesting that Romano's talking about it but don't you just feel like with Emery it's just easy to say Emery is the man we want knowing they can't get him I don't like it for me is it not the same as 10 years ago when we were going to sign Gareth Bale after a bad result you know what I mean bad result for signing Ronaldo they used to do it for years and I just I just think with Emery is it not just the obvious PR of let's give let's say we want Emery knowing we're never going to get him and it might make people excited because I just don't see Emery as possible at all.

15:16And I was listening to the show with Beth and Ben Jacobs earlier and he was talking about the Emery thing and he said, look, it's really difficult. The people hiring would have to make sacrifices. The challenge with Emery is that this is not the kind of manager that they want and they want a head coach and Emery is a manager. and if you give the job to Emery, he will want control of the sporting director. He's got his own culture. He's got his own idea. He's a manager. So how do you navigate that? I mean, Jason Wilcox is like a turkey voting for Christmas if he gets Emery. If Jason Wilcox walks into the boardroom and says, I think we should sack Carrick and give the job to Emery, he's basically that turkey jumping in the oven on Christmas Day.

16:01You know, he's gone. So, I don't think that... Right, Wayne, what are we doing here today? Filming promo for a new podcast, me and Mark Goldbridge. What's the podcast called, Wayne? I don't know. What is it called? Oh, that was good. Wayne is a player. Exactly what Man United was all about. But I'm sure we're not going to agree on everything. What would you think about Mark if you were a current player? Probably think he's a... We'll be reacting to all the games. Do you do your own painting in your house? All the big stories. Just have my socks on and my underpants. Good. Hopefully no sackings.

16:36Hopefully. He's gone first on both of them. I think we will have debates. That's why I was saying you can go first. I did. On the volley. United. Oh, perfect. On the pitch, off the pitch. I've got a little goal in my garden. I'd have to say for that, to be honest. Stick to United. It's coming to him. I wouldn't be getting excited about the Emery stuff from Romano because logically it doesn't fit. Look. If Sir Jim Radcliffe comes out and says Jason Wilcox is sacked, Michael Carrick is sacked and Unai Emery is coming in, you've removed a potential barrier to that. But you can't employ Unai Emery.

17:15You can't employ Antonio Conte in this system because we want a head coach. We want a puppet. As I said on the show with Carriger today, we should go for Conte in my opinion, but we won't go for Conte because Wilcox is shit scared of him. Because he will sit there in a press conference and say what Bruno and Martinez has said. He'll say that summer transfer window was shit. Whereas Carrick will sit there and go, it was good. You know, we tried our best. And similarly, you know, get angry about it is what I'm saying. We won't go for Conte and we won't go for Emery because we've got a coward as a CEO, as a sporting director who just wants a puppet that he can control.

17:57Now, if Jason Wilcox wants to prove me wrong and say, I'll give up control and Emery and Conte can come in and I'll take a back seat, let's do it. But we know we won't. And we know that's best for Manchester United. That club needs a manager. Manchester United needs a manager. It doesn't need a head coach. It needs a manager. All this modern hipster bullshit of a sporting director and a head coach under them. No. Man United, Sir Matt Busby, Sir Alex Ferguson were managers. We need managers. but we won't do it because we've created this ridiculous scenario where Jason Wilcox is the kingmaker couldn't make his bloody bed no so we won't be going for Emery I just can't see it happening let me just get in some of your comments here while you're early Mark I'm on Bundesliga duty on Overlap Daily tonight I'm going to pour myself a lovely glass of red and just sit and watch some live match footage there hi Mark and hope you're well and had a good day says Daniel really enjoyed Overlap Daily with Carragher and Becky really good show enjoyed that JBS is nice episode we need Roy Keane next I'd love to do it with Roy Keane I don't know I keep dropping hints but I don't know whether it'll happen reminds me as well weekend is here I've dropped the link in the video description remember me and Rooney 21st of January Manchester Apollo get your tickets while you can brilliant Christmas present for somebody our live shows are always brilliant but we've never done a live show with Wayne Rooney before so it'll be good fun interactive lots of fun we're working on some stuff for prizes to give away in the audience interactive as well.

19:29So it's going to be our biggest and best show yet. Get your tickets while you can. Link in the description or in the live chat. Dino says, if Carrick gets sacked tomorrow, wouldn't that mean Holland and Woodgate in charge temporarily for the Roma and Villa game, which is a scary thought? Yeah, but you know what? If you did sack Carrick tomorrow and you gave the interim job to somebody for the next two games, at least you know we're getting a new manager in the international break. My fear is, listen to me on this one, I think it's a good point. If we lose tomorrow and Carrick gets sacked, that's the right thing to do because he should have been sacked after Bournemouth.

20:07If you want to bring an interim in for Roma and Villa, I don't care. I don't really care because we'll get a proper manager in the international break. But if we keep Carrick after losing to Chelsea and he gets one win against Roma or Villa, they'll keep him. So I'd rather take the interim against Roma and Villa knowing we're getting a new manager in the international break then lose to Chelsea keep him and then he beats Villa and he gets to keep his job so I don't mind the interim if he loses tomorrow how would you feel about United going after Balogun in January says Nick I haven't really kept an eye on him other than the World Cup you tell me you tell me Nick guys wake up Emery is the same as Anderson etc says Una yeah we won't get him it feels like a Shakespeare play where the coach is the director the players are performers and actors and we the fans are the audience in the pits, says J-Lo.

20:56I wouldn't say Shakespeare play. I'd say it's more a bloody circus, but we're still watching the clowns run around. Yes. Jeremy says the problems existed before Carrick got there. It's a repeat of what happened with Moyes. And Unai says appreciate, want, dream, target all over again. Absolutely. Absolutely. There has been some stories coming in today about the potential. I mean it's interesting wasn't it what did you think about just let me just divert for a moment did you see what Ben Jacobs said about interest from Saudi and the UAE and then there was a story this morning about a pathway for Sir Jim Ratcliffe buying the club in 2029 I've got to be honest this is really weird for me to say this because I can't stand the Glazers they are in no way a positive for Manchester United but I was reading today about Ineos a pathway for Ineos to buy all of the club in 2029 from the Glazers.

21:53And my instant reaction was, no, please, no, no, no. I don't want Ineos to get hold of this club. I don't want Ineos to get hold of this club. I think they're shit. I think they're really bad. I know the Glazers are bad, and I don't really want to have the debate about who's worse, but I do not want Ineos to get... That's not a win, the Glazers going and Ineos getting hold of it. I mean, Ineos and what they've done in the last two years with Jim Radcliffe is horrific, horrific behaviour. So I'm not excited about the Glazers handing it over to Ineos in 2029 if that happens. Absolutely not. And I don't think it will happen.

22:35I don't think it will happen. I don't think Ineos would want to spend another four billion to get the full club at the moment. I don't think they want to do it. I'd love somebody else to buy it. But as I say, until someone's holding up the shirt, I won't believe those sort of rumours ever. As for January transfer news, I mean, look, if you want to be that guy or gal that is sat there getting excited about Man United's willingness to enter the January transfer market, I would say two things. One, look at the last five January transfer markets, even if we enter it. It's not necessarily great. I'm thinking about Agalo and Veghorst.

23:14and two, it ain't easy to do anything in the January transfer market. It isn't. It's just not. It's not actually easy to do something in the January transfer market. Like, what would you want? I don't even know. The tragedy of what we did in the summer transfer-wise was that we didn't get the left back and we didn't get the striker. Now, that striker that we needed to go for in the summer is who is that in January? And that left back that we needed to go for in the summer, who is that in January? Because I don't think Truffaut or Hall are actually available in January. And from strikers, I mean, this is what I mean.

23:56We're going to enter the January market. Can we just call it what it is? Spin and smoke and mirrors. Because I'm going to enter the January transfer market in October is very much like saying, oh, do your Christmas list for me and I'll have a look at it. I mean, it doesn't mean I'm going to get anything good. And especially if there's a history of me not getting anything on that list, I'm not going to believe it anyway. So I don't, I don't, I actually do not think Manchester United's answer lies in a transfer window anymore. Obviously, I believe we needed to do more in the transfer window in the summer.

24:35But look at Tillemans, look at Balaba, look at Santos. I mean, they're better than what they've performed, but players don't come in and make a difference at Man United anymore. They don't. Tillemans is there today saying, I'm really happy that Carrick's staying. Of course he bloody is because Carrick bought him. You don't want a new manager coming in when you've just bloody signed. Trust me, no new signing wants a manager to get sacked because they've been bought by that manager. The new guy might not like them. But I don't think the answer to Manchester United's problems lies in a checkbook anymore.

25:10I don't. I think the answer lies in changing the ownership or the board or the manager. And you've got to do more than one of those things. Until we get the structure right, there's no point. There isn't any point. We're not going to buy two or three players that are going to change anything because above them, it's not correct. So I don't even... Hey, we're Nick and Jack hosts of the best one yet behind every episode. There's research, email, spreadsheets, and our shared Google doc, the headline hammer with Google workspace with Gemini, Google's AI is built right into the premium versions of tools.

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27:21I mean, I'm not going to say no to transfers, but I don't get excited like I used to. I don't think if, you know, if Man United went and bought Victor Rosamund in January, I'd be very happy. I think he's a very good player, but I'd still sit here and say I don't think that's going to solve the problem. Because I don't. I don't think the answer lies in the transfer window anymore. I think the answer lies in the fact that we're so shamefully bad in our structure. Like this head coach thing doesn't work. It doesn't work. And the only reason we brought it in is because Jason Wilcox wants to be in control.

27:55But the big question is, how did he get the job? He was crap at Southampton, and that's the only thing on his CV. How did he end up being the sporting director of one of the biggest clubs in the world? I mean, I don't even need to know this, but I guarantee you people like Berta at Arsenal and, you know, sporting directors at big clubs probably look at Man United and go, how did he get the job? And that's not picking on him. I think that I guarantee you that PSG, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, they look at Man United sporting director and go how does Man United end up with that and you could say the same about the CEO as well so that's where it needs to start for me we need a structure because that summer transfer window was shit and somebody signed it off but Labour's not a £70 million player by the way I always told you that and I'm going to be right about it I want him to do well but he was never a£70 million player.

28:55I told you he's not a£70 million player. You look at him at Brighton last year and for every good thing he does, he does a bad thing because he's not the finished article. I don't think Brighton were crying when Belaba left for£70 million. There might have been tears of joy, but Belaba for me was£45 million, £50 max. At that price, that's about right. But we basically bought a finished article for£70 million and he's not that. Santos is never 48 million. I mean, I'd argue he's not even 30. That's scandalous. Tillemans at 35 million is a decent price, but let's not forget he's 30 this season. So that summer transfer window was shit.

29:37That midfield rebuild was fucking awful. Awful. And I don't think is, I don't mind Santos, I don't mind Tillemans, and I don't mind Belaber, but what a waste of money. And who signed that off? The sporting director. So, yeah. They just keep writing off seasons. But if Jim Radcliffe and Ineos got all of United, that's writing off next decade. And where would they suddenly find these funds when they don't invest in United now? Need new ownership with huge funds. Look, tomorrow's going to be a very interesting day. If we can get the results, then obviously it buys a little bit of time for everybody.

30:16If we lose, then it's like throwing petrol on the fire, isn't it? things just get worse and worse and worse. But there are people out there who feel that this is an opportunity. There are people out there that feel that the more United burn, the more damage it does to the structure. So look, it's going to be a very interesting day tomorrow. I found it also just before I... I'll have to wrap up in a minute. Carrick asked about, is he going to set up differently against Chelsea? Now, this worried me a little bit because Chelsea play with a five at the back, don't they? And I thought, fucking hell.

30:54He said, yeah, well, that's part of the game. We're always trying to find a way in a little bit of games and we're pushing to be a better as a team and keep trying to find solutions. And that won't stop. So, look, he might try something new tomorrow. People think 4-3-3. He genuinely might match up like he did against Leeds. he might mirror their formation because he's had a week. So I'm not saying it will happen, but we might go with three centre-backs and two wing-backs tomorrow. He might put Ahmad on the right, maybe Kunja on the left, and go with Maguire, Yoro and Martinez. That would mean dropping Deleuze, though.

31:35I don't think he'd do that. He might put Belaber on the left. He might put Belaber left wing-back, Ahmad right wing-back, go with Maguire, Martinez and maybe De Ligt and go with like a 5-3-2 or something like that. Yeah, I'm not convinced it will be a 4-3-3 tomorrow. I think he'll try and come up with something like he did against Leeds. Score prediction for tomorrow? Chelsea 2, Man United 0. I'm jinxing it. I'm trying to jinx it so that we get a positive, but I think Chelsea will win. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jammy says belabor it left wing back don't piss me off Mark I wouldn't be surprised I would not be surprised they hinted about that before didn't they genuinely how bad can people lead an organisation are they stupid or doing it on purpose also where did the student of the games go with Rooney says Eggino student of the game what was student of the game it won't have gone anywhere Egg it will still be it will still be there I just can't remember what we did we are relying on the Glazers sods laws says Kyle.

32:43And if the board back carry it, you would see changes in the backroom staff. The fact that the backroom staff hasn't changed shows he won't be here, says Mick. Appreciate one dream. OK, I've got to get over to do the Bundesliga stream. But thank you, everybody. Don't forget, it's an early start tomorrow. 12.30 kickoff. I'll be with you at midday, but countdown to kickoff starts around half 10 tomorrow. So there's no 10 o 'clock show, but there will be will be pretty much live. Big day, big day tomorrow, isn't it? Big day tomorrow. in fact I've cleared my diary after Man United I'm not doing any other Premier League watch alongs because I think once it hits half two tomorrow we'll know that final result and I want to clear it for the match reaction I think it's going to be a big one tomorrow take care everyone stay safe please do check out Overlap Daily today me and Carragher if you've not seen it we discussed the issues of the last stream right at the start so check that out also a bit of Premier League weekend preview as well thank you if you're joining me on the Bundesliga by the way you're very welcome on Overlap Daily as well it is only available to UK and Ireland because that's all we've got the lights live match footage for but take care everyone stay safe and I'll speak to on the next one

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