INEOS Transfer Plan EXPOSED! Carrick In DANGER!

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1:43Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Art Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United transfer news. The morning after the transfer window is closed. For me, this is always one of the most depressing shows to do of the year because it's the hope is gone. You know, any slight chance that a miracle can happen, it's gone. The door is slammed shut. All the PR comes in and it has come in. Apparently, it's Newcastle's fault. It's Mateus Fernandes's fault. It's Lewis Skelly's fault. The blame shifting begins that we always know. It's even Rashford's fault, apparently, as well. So it's everybody's fault apart from the CEO, the director of football, the owners.

2:25So we'll delve through that as well. But yeah, you know what? It's I mean, my inbox is flooded today from United creators saying we're not worthy. You were right. We've been really positive. And now we're doing what you've been doing for the last two months. It's not. They won't admit that, will they? But yeah, it's, I mean, look, in previous years, I, don't worry, I'm not running off. In previous years, I would have done a big, massive transfer deadline day stream from eight o 'clock till 11 o 'clock. We checked out at half past nine. Nothing happened. As soon as that Xerxi loan deal fell through, that was it.

3:03It was an absolute shambles. I would say that ranking transfer windows out of 10 I'd give City a 9, Chelsea an 8 Spurs a 7 Arsenal, Liverpool an average 6 and as a 3 and that's just not acceptable I mean the thing is I've seen so many great comments across the fan base about and you'd almost go you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right there are so many angles here so many angles you know 3 out of 10 when the traditional top six are getting six, seven, eight, nine, ten. You know, the spend, the inability to sell. It's incredible. And you know what? I just wanted to bring this in because there is a bit to recap, like what's happened with the left back, what's happened with the midfield.

3:52And absolutely, there is a point where you just go, look, we're fundamentally a community, whether it's this community or the wider fan base. it's not going to stop us wanting to beat Everton. It's not going to stop us wanting to beat Bayern Munich when we play them or Man City in a couple of weeks. And what I mean by that, it's not going to stop us wanting to win. It's not going to stop the team being able to win. But we as a fan base, Michael Carrick as a manager and this team collectively are going into this season with two arms tied behind their back. Now, if they can achieve things well done, but that doesn't make it okay.

4:29if Michael Carrick wins a trophy and gets a second place, that doesn't make Ineos right. That makes them lucky. And everything they do is underpinned with incompetence and luck. And that will run out. Whether it's this season, next season, it will run out. There is no strategy to what we're doing. So I wish Michael Carrick and the team all the best. But when Harry Maguire is saying we need signings and we don't sign them, Luke Shaw was saying on Sunday we need signings and we don't sign them, Wayne Rooney on stick to United. Everybody's been saying we need signings and they've ignored everybody to do what they think is best.

5:04And remember, this is not some sort of sensationalist moan. That transfer window is factually terrible. If anybody in the media wants to come on and have a chat today and tell us why it's great, we would love to have you on. I'd absolutely love to. I'm waiting for the Rio Ferdinand video. I know he's done a video with Ryan Giggs about Lionel Messi retiring, But, you know, as a Man United influencer who is rumoured to be on the payroll of the Glazers, I can't wait for your video coming out saying what a shambles this transfer window is. Because if we don't get it, I don't respect anything you say for the rest of the season.

5:41You know, you want to comment around Man United and you're there when everything's going well. I can't wait for your video about what a shit show this window is because I think it'll be a really impactful one. So I'm looking forward to that Ferdinand one. But remember, this is hot on the heels of a horrific transfer window. And I must say this, must say this, horrific transfer window, horrific treatment of the fans this summer. These two things are really important. Before we break down the nonsense that Newcastle and Mateus Fernandes and Lewis Skelly caused the problems this summer, and that is apparently out there, we'll go through that, and Marcus Rashford.

6:17Everyone else is getting the blame apart from the board. I just want to say this. This transfer window is absolutely horrific. Remember as well, not only have they delivered a rubbish transfer window, they also have taken season tickets systematically off hundreds of Man United fans who've had season tickets for years. This is not being spoken about enough. The fan base know about it, but it's not being spoken enough. They've literally taken tickets off people in a horrific way and they've delivered that transfer window as well. They do not care. They do not care about anything. They are high-fiving each other in private.

6:54They're saying they've done a good job. All I would say to this board and our owners is you are universally detested by this fan base. The small cult that you had a couple of weeks ago has turned on you. Everybody in this fan base thinks you're incompetent and can't stand you. And every other Premier League club think you're a bunch of clowns. You're out on your own now. And long way back, they're out. You know what? If there's any positive, I think they're done. I don't see how you come back from this. They have absolutely, no one trusts them. No one respects them. No one thinks they're any good.

7:28And no one in the Premier League does either, which is why we can't sell to anybody because no one wants to do business with us. So it's going to be very interesting to watch how this works out now because they've basically eroded the trust of everybody.

7:48and I'm baffled to see how they're going to spin this around and I would say shame on those journalists and ex-players and people who propped them up. Shame on you because we can see exactly what they are in 4K. The treatment of season ticket holders this summer has been disgusting. The transfer window lacks total ambition. We all know who these people are now. No more hiding. if people want to come out and back them and say they're doing a good job, yeah, you're just as bad. You're just as bad. And I just need, I'm not going to name this person, but I did get sent this this morning. There are a couple of people who have apparently posted stuff saying United have done quite well this summer transfer window considering the financial limitations that they have.

8:36The financial limitations is their debt. If you are a United fan this morning justifying the financial limitations, you're an absolute moron. The financial limitations only stack up if there are limitations. Like Villa and Newcastle have FFP limitations. They can't spend ridiculous money. The limitations are not an excuse. The limitations are because of years of dividends, years of debt. I don't acknowledge those limitations. They are not limitations. They are not an excuse. and Sir Jim Madcliffe allowed those limitations by getting into bed with the Glazers. It's a vanity project. If Ineos owns this football club, it's a different story, but they don't.

9:22Right, let's delve into the news. So some massively interesting stuff coming in this morning and I imagine we'll get more and more and more. As I said, the client journalists are out there doing the Glazers work. Some of it's interesting, some of it's stunning. On Al Norrie, let me just tell you the story with Al Norrie. He was offered up to United by his agent a couple of days ago. Man United explored it yesterday with Manchester City and Manchester City said the only way you're doing this deal is if you do a loan with an obligation to buy, which seems standard practice. United said no because they only wanted a loan.

10:03And all I'll say about that is, and I'll leave it to the comments, is that's the stupidity of the people running this football club. If I was the director of football and one of my workers said, we can go to Man City and see if they'll do a loan deal, I'd say, go home. It's not for you. We'll talk tomorrow. I wouldn't have even picked up the phone to Man City. It is absolute stupidity to think you're going to take a Man City left back on loan with no obligation to buy. And we're picking up the phone for stuff like that. This is not clever. There are people in this world who are arseholes, but clever.

10:48They're clever arseholes. They've got no morals, but they are ruthless and intelligent. We have a dangerous combination at United. We have incompetent idiots. You know, they're not clever idiots. Sorry, they're not clever arseholes. They're incompetent arseholes. And they're even worse. Crazy. Absolutely crazy to even approach Alt-Nori and Man City in those circumstances. With Xerxes, Everton wanted to do a loan deal for Xerxes. And United's decision was, we do want Xerxes to go but we haven't got time to get a replacement in all summer long Xerxes needed to leave United and with two hours left we've gone well we can't get anything in I mean again the mind boggles on what's been going on for the last few months everybody knows Xerxes needed to go we finally get an offer in and we're like Oh, actually, we haven't got a replacement.

11:56And as HG says, replacement for what? He doesn't even play. I mean, I think Zerks... Well, look, we'll leave that with Zerksy. And there was another thing that happened yesterday as well. Oh, Amas. Amas. So some people think we're keeping Amas because he's now going to be an option at left back. No, no, no, no, no. Man United had a lot of offers coming in for Amas, but ultimately they wanted six million and were only being offered three. So they didn't get an offer of six, so they kept him. So, yeah. I mean, look, I've witnessed many a transfer deadline day with Manchester United. I mean, bloody hell, we've gone from King to Rondon to Agarlo on a transfer deadline day before.

12:42But I think yesterday was absolutely horrific. Absolutely horrific. But there's more coming out as well. James Ducker and the Athletic, Telegraph and The Athletic basically have put an interesting couple of articles out today, sort of analysing the window with some sources now talking about it. I mean, one thing I would say, I saw in The Athletic, it was Laurie Whitwell who wrote it about how Man United have been very secretive this summer and, you know, kept things close to their chest. I'm sorry. I mean, is this some sort of angle to try and make out that we've been competent? I mean, credit to accounts like, I saw that Sully account today.

13:20Credit. You know, I don't go out of my way looking for arguments like I will have arguments with people because I'm strong willed. I have my own opinion. I'm sure many of you are in your clash. That's fine. But when I see people talking sense, I'll acknowledge it. Even they came out this morning saying it was a shit show of a transfer window. Good. I'm glad. I'm glad people are not making excuses for this shit show anymore. more. Welcome to the truth. You know, there's no I told you so. It's like the truth is this has been absolutely abysmal. But we haven't been effective, secretive this summer transfer window, right?

13:56It's amazing to me because I was reading something this morning and it's absolutely correct. They were talking about the midfield. And basically what they said is that Elliot Kit Anderson was the priority, but was too expensive. Chumini was the dream, but it didn't come true. Mateus Fernandes was another plan A signing, but they didn't want to pay a little bit more money for it. Edison was the midfielder that they wanted, and then the medical showed up something they were worried about. And I think there was somebody else as well. Oh, Tonali they thought was too expensive. So they had five midfielders that they really wanted to go for.

14:35they ended up with Santos because Edison's medical fell through so Santos is only here because Edison's medical fell through they went for Tillemans they were aware of Tillemans' release clause for about a month but they moved on Tillemans when they realised that options were running out Chumini, Elliot Anderson, Mateus Fernandes so that's why they went for Tillemans so this is the truth Tillemans and Santos were not players we wanted in May and June, they were because of Edison's knee and because we couldn't get other players. So Tillemans and Santos, I mean, let's hope they do well, but let's be very, very, very, very clear here.

15:14These are option C, D, E, you know, whatever letter you want to put. They're not A, B and C. And then Baleba, who some people want to pretend is option A because we went for him last summer. Baleba, who we signed in August, is because everything else is not available and also Louis Skelly wasn't available. So we wanted Louis Skelly because he can play midfield and left back. Arsenal basically said no, so we went for Belaber. So even the three players that we've bought, factually, aren't the players we really wanted. Now look, I want Belaber to do well. I want Santos to do well. I want Tillemans to do well.

15:57I want Carrick to do well. I want Luke Shaw to be Sholberto Carlos us because I want Man United to win. But we are dissecting a shit window. And even the positive of the window, the three midfielders, you have to, you know, there is criticism. These are not the players they actually wanted. And that's the only thing that's positive about this window. So even if you want to be positive about the midfielders, they're not actually what they wanted, which is incredible. And it just adds another element of incompetence to the transfer the window. But then, I mean, look, these are not my words. I saw it in the Athletic as well.

16:36In fact, it would be useful of me to just bring the Athletic piece in because it's from two separate stories. So basically, the most significant factor in Man United not doing more business was Marcus Rashford staying put. 325 grand a week wages, greatly reduced United's room for manoeuvre this window. I mean, look, that's good journalism and we don't get a lot of it. And I actually think James Duck is not bad. I think he's less of a client journalist than most. I think he does do occasionally good pieces. And I quite like him as a journalist. But that's quite damning. I read that and you've got to be very careful.

17:24The most significant factor in United not doing more business was Rashford staying. 325 grand a week greatly reduces their room to do more business whether that's a left back or whatever. That's there. That's literally there. So how do you react to that? I think it's you've got to point the finger at the people responsible and the people responsible are Wilcox, Barada, Sir Jim Radcliffe and the Glazers. I would say the problem with a statement like that is that a lot of people in our fan base do not want Rashford here and a lot of people do. But obviously what it does is put a lot of pressure onto Marcus Rashford.

18:24and it also isn't necessarily his fault.

18:31But I think it's not a great look for the club that they were desperate to get Rashford out. They've ended up bringing him back and it's also impacted our transfer policy. I mean, look, he's on massive wages. He's the biggest earner at the football club. He's on 650 grand a week of fortnight, which is 1.3 million pounds a month, which is what? Nearly 16 million pounds a year. But that sort of messaging, I mean, look, Rashford's got to deliver, hasn't he? I don't really want to spend this morning talking about Marcus Rashford because I don't really blame him, but I do blame the club. and it's a strange one that it's out there, but he has to deliver now.

19:24He has to score 20 Premier League goals. He has to play well every week. He has to track back because it's a huge risk. But ultimately, I would also say this.

19:37What was Marcus Rashford supposed to do? He's at Barcelona. He's picked for the World Cup. He's living the dream. he comes back from the World Cup his only option is Manchester United there was no offer on the table for him you can't you can't you can't blame him I blame the club and also I've got to say this I've been sort of not wanting to say it I've got to say this if I was Marcus Rashford I'd be fuming about that I'd be absolutely fucking fuming I'd be like I mean he's not going to do a press conference but I'd be like hold on a minute there's a piece in an article today saying that the reason United haven't done any business or more business is because I'm back I didn't fucking want to be here I wanted to be in Barcelona you wouldn't do a deal with Barcelona for 13 million you'd have had 13 million in your pocket and my wage would have been gone that's 26 million if my wages are 16 million and Barcelona were going to give you 13 you've saved 16 plus 13 that's 29 million How the fuck is that my fault?

20:44Also, let's have a look at your finances. You've got about another 200 million you could have spent. So hold on a minute. Why is my name being mentioned in relation to not being able to spend more money this summer? It's absolute horse shit. It's pressure on me. It's a load of bollocks. And also, you gave me the fucking contract three years ago. So hold on a minute. Why is my name being used as a reason not to buy players this summer? What a load of shite. What a load of shit. You could have loaned me to Barcelona and saved the wages. You could have took the 13 million from Barcelona and took the money and the wages.

21:22Fuck off. Yeah. I mean, I don't think Rashford's going to do that, but he's got every right to do it. Why should his name be associated with a negative point on the transfer window? But this is what I mean. It's the blame game. Rashford's being blamed now. And people will say, well, he's not. Well, you have a look on social media. He is. They want to scapegoat somebody.

21:47Look, there's loads of stuff this morning. What was the other one? Mateus Fernandes. Tottenham drove a hard... Everything I've read is excuses. So there's one about Tottenham. Somebody called Lewis at Tottenham. It's his fault as well. Can't remember what his full name is. probably the CEO. Apparently, he drove a hard bargain and he wanted£85 million up front. So it's his fault. Shock horror. Owner of another club drives the price up. You go and try and buy a house tomorrow. Yeah. And the owner says, I want another hundred grand or you're not having it. Welcome to the real world. Yeah. Also, Lewis Hall.

22:32Apparently we were hanging around for Lewis Hall as well. And we were willing to pay£50 million. And we went to Newcastle a couple of weeks ago. And they said he's not for sale. So we walked away. I mean, what's that? The guy didn't go to the fucking World Cup. You've sat there watching Newcastle sell Tonali, Anthony Gordon, Bruno Gamerez. and you turn up two weeks before the window closes with a£50 million offer and go like that. It's just absolutely crazy. What else? Who else are we blaming? There was somebody else. Edison's knee. Yeah, that's getting blamed as well. Lewis Skelly. Yeah, Lewis Skelly.

23:14But overarching here is just another veil of incompetence. If I knock on the door of Newcastle with a£50 million offer, I'm a bloody idiot. If I knock on the door of Newcastle after they've sold Bruno Guimerez, Tonali and Anthony Gordon with a£50 million offer and two weeks left in the window, I'm an even bigger idiot. This is just idiocy. We have got clowns running the show. I genuinely think you would do a better job and that's not taking the piss. They don't seem to understand the world of football. They seem to be absolutely clueless. but if I if Lewis Skelly's an option and I can't get him and Chumini's an option and I can't get him and Lewis Hall's an option and I can't get him and Mateus Fernandes is an option and I can't get him instead of sitting there with a finger up my arse going this is uncomfortable remove the finger from your arse and do your job I mean I just I just want to remind people of stuff from the summer right?

24:22Data Dean, the guy who used to work for the Formula One, yeah? Best in class Data Dean, yeah? Oh, yeah, he can analyse the data. Yeah, we're really good at analysing the data now. Has he learned to turn his computer on? I mean, we wanted a left back. We didn't get Lewis Hall. We didn't get Lewis Skelly. I've got something called Yscout. Give me three minutes, three minutes, and I can run a parameter search for a left back aged between 27 and 23. I'll have 20 for you that you could go and narrow them down. You can't say, we knocked on the door of Newcastle and they said, no, what do you want us to do?

25:06I want you to do your fucking job. Get Data Dean's computer fixed, getting some internet access. Because the funny thing is, over the last three weeks, This live chat and the wider Man United community has been awash with left-back options. Whether it's Rahm, whether it's Truffaut, whether it's Anthony Robinson, whether it's some kid from Spain, the options are absolutely endless.

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27:11And we're not doing it. And can I just say this as well? We will never know the truth. I mean, look, Dioff has gone to Brentford for 40 million quid. There was left-backs out there and United have decided not to do anything. But riddle me this one, right? Al Nouri on a loan to buy on the last day of the window would have been a good deal. It would have been a good deal. I saw a few people saying I don't like him defensively you've got Luke Shaw at left back what are you fucking talking about but I tell you what I do like about Altonori I love him going forward I think the only reason he's not playing for Man City is because they've got Vardiel and O 'Reilly who are physically taller and give them options on that back post that you're not going to get from Altonori you know Man City have basically got this fusion of a powerful, tall centre-back who can play at left-back.

28:11So Alp Norey's not getting game time. He would be, if he started against Everton on Sunday, people would go, oh my God, we finally got a left-back. And we go, no, we don't want to do a loan to buy. I mean, what is the left-back option now then? I'll tell you what the left-back option is. Lewis Hall. And I'll tell you what's going to happen with Lewis Hall. He's going to sign a new contract in the next few weeks. So, yeah, I mean, look, the only hope for this football club now is something that's not going to happen, isn't it? Well, there's two things. We need two miracles. We need either Michael Carrick to make Manchester United relevant with owners that are dragging us down, or we need those owners gone.

29:03And I think, to be honest with you, sat here this morning, I don't know what's more likely. Michael Carrick producing a miracle or the owners pissing off. I don't really think. Look, chances of Michael Carrick doing something with this squad, miraculous, less than 20%. Chances of the Glazers and Ineos pissing off in the next year, less than 10%. So it's very difficult to be... It's very difficult, actually, to do anything else other than just support the team and hope to do well. And I'll tell you what, anything without hope is quite demoralising. And I could use an analogy with something very, very serious.

29:59It's like an illness without a cure. You've got to fight it, but there is no cure. And that can be quite demoralising. On a very serious level, I know people have had it and stuff like that. But I feel Man United are a bit of an illness without a cure now. Whereas if we come into this summer transfer window and bought five decent players, it's an illness with a cure. But I think the way they've treated this transfer window and the fans is it's an illness without a cure at the moment. Look, people say we need to do more as a fan base. Look, this community is a very big community. There are other communities out there.

30:43The Red Army, the Man United Supporters Trust, the 58, great organisations.

30:51But it's difficult, you know, it's really, really difficult. I think there's been so many examples of people trying to make a difference. I mean, was it not a year ago where this is this is and this is the problem, right? People say do protest, do more. You've got a big platform. Absolutely fine. OK, I'll listen to that. And then I'll say this. A year ago, the 58 wanted to do a protest for the Arsenal game on the opening game of the season. Certain content creators

31:26What's his name? I can't remember the bloody name of the channel I should know this Anyway Actually did a video Mocking the 58 Proper top red Right? Fan channel Mocked the 58 Certain other content creators And big accounts mocked the 58. This is not the time for this. Get behind the team. Get behind the Glazers. Get behind Sir Jim Radcliffe. They got a year... This literally happened. A year ago, the 58 wanted to do a protest for the Arsenal game, opening game of the season, and they got absolutely rinsed for it by very vocal people in our fan base. Rinsed for it. A year later, and that transfer window went to shit.

32:17That wasn't even a good transfer window. It went to shit. Didn't buy a midfielder. But at that time, it was the time we were in talks with Belaber. So half the fan base got mugged off. We're signing Belaber. We didn't sign Belaber. Now people are begging them to do protests. A year ago, they were saying, oh, leave them alone. We're signing Belaber. And this is the problem. This fan base is just too splintered to do anything. But ultimately, the only way you solve it. And I don't know whether there's anybody in the world out there. You need a billionaire to step forward publicly, get in contact with all the news outlets and say, I'm here to rescue Man United.

32:56And it's a three-point policy. I'm here to rescue Manchester United. I will instantly clear the debt and I will put the money into this club for the next decade to make it the best club in the world. and you get in contact with Sky, BBC, Athletic, Manchester Evening News, the 58, this community, every other community, and you say, look, are you in? Are you in? You're either in or you're out because we're going public with this and we're relentlessly going to get them out. But you need that billionaire. If I was a billionaire, I'd do it today. Today. I'd call up Sky Sports News. I'd say, let's have an interview.

33:34I've got the money. it might take me two or three years I'm going to get all the fans on side that want to be on side I'm going to clear the debt I'm going to pump money into the club we're going to take Man United back to the top who's in? but there's nobody out there there's nobody out there willing to do it but I think that I've spoken to a few people that's the only way it happens it's a shame what happened with the Qatari bid I don't think they'll ever come back in but it is possible but you need somebody to do it and there isn't anybody there isn't anybody now would be the time now would be the time because the Glazers and Ineos can try and build a new stadium we're probably going to have a shit season like the vulnerability of this ownership is now they need to build a stadium we've just had a shit transfer window they've treated fans like shit with the season tickets we're probably going to have a very challenging season on the pitch so results could go bad as well They have never been so vulnerable as they are now.

34:36Is there somebody willing to step in? Because I tell you what, you'd get the 58, you'd get the Red Army, you'd get Man United Supporters Trust, you'd get this community, you'd get the wider fan base. It could happen, but it's whether somebody's out there. I don't know. I don't know. I don't hold out much hope. Anyway, let me get into some of your comments this morning. Alvito, welcome to the Members Club. Oh, just a reminder on the Members Club. Fancy Premier League video goes out today. and the bonus Rooney video goes out tomorrow. So that your two bits of bonus content, if you're a member, remember today and tomorrow.

35:09Thanks for joining, Alvito. Get ready for the journalists to start briefing the amazing defenders we're going to buy next season when in reality, it's my mum's dog, says Dan. Look, I'll give you a very blunt analogy here. And it's, look, everyone's down. Look, right, do you like Christmas? A lot of people like Christmas. Some people don't like Christmas. I mean, she comes out every year on UK news. She's allergic to Santa. You know, they'll have her on the TV and say, are you any better this year? She's about a 42-year-old woman. Santa, they'll get someone dressed up as Santa and she screams and runs off the screen.

35:45She's terrified of Santa. So she obviously doesn't like Christmas because Santa's fucking everywhere, isn't it? But a lot of people do like Santa, right? So imagine you like Christmas, yeah? And you get really excited about Christmas. Christmas comes along and, you know, your family sit you down around the tree and you go, that's your present. And you open it up and it's a two pound selection box from Poundland. And you go, where else? Sorry, you say, what else, please? And they go, nothing. And you say, but I circled everything in the catalogue. Well, basically, your gran got hold of the bank account and she's gone and gambled it all on Bitcoin and we've got no money.

36:28But next year, it'll be better. I'll tell you what, I ain't sitting at the Christmas table with Gran and pulling a cracker. No chance. Kick her out, get her out. I don't want to see her face for a year. Get rid of Gran, send her back to wherever she's come from, the traitorous cow. And I'm going to my room. I'm not pretending this is a good Christmas next year. It's not my fault it's fucked up, is it? That's the same with United. Oh, next year we're going to get a defender. Oh, that's absolutely fine then. You've fucked up this season. Let's all just... And this is what I mean. I don't believe them that they're going to go and get Lewis Hall or anybody next summer anyway.

37:13I think they're lying. Also, I'm not sitting here and saying it's OK either. I'm looking out my window at Man City and Chelsea and Liverpool and Tottenham, they're having a bloody great Christmas. Roaring fire, games, presents, everything. Only Fools and Horses on the TV. Look at them, they're having a right good time. We're having a shit time because of Gran and Bitcoin, you know? So I don't even know why any United fan would swallow that shit. Look, I put my hands up a year ago, sort of swallowed it about Anderson myself. Not anymore. You know, it's like the boy who cried wolf, isn't it? this ownership has cried wolf too many times.

37:53You can't sit here this morning and go, oh, let's stop. And they will be out there. They will be out there. There will be people out there who, it's just the way of the world. When everybody's saying something, there'll be people who go, I'm going to be really niche and say the opposite. Let's just be positive. Well, fine, be positive. You're a glazer. If you're backing this or making excuses for this now, there is no delusion. you are a glazer you are backing the degradation of this football club so I ain't waiting until next year and I'm not believing it Ineos helped sanction a loan deal for a left back from Nice to Leeds last night with a 1 million up front with a 5 million buy next summer so shows how much they care about United when the guys you guys need a left back desperately says Dino well I wasn't aware of that Dino but that sounds well wouldn't surprise me Dazzo says do not let these owners build the new stadium, we'll be held to ransom until they make a big profit.

38:52This, mate, Dazzo, this could go on for years and years and years. This summer, we haven't even started building the stadium yet. The scary thing is, if this summer is an indication of what's to come, how many years? Five? Ten? Five summer transfer windows? Ten summer transfer windows? We've not even started building it yet. So if it takes five transfer windows to build it, that's five more of this. And then once it's built, you've got to pay for it. Is that another five? This could be United for the next decade. If you tolerate this, your children will be next. That's, you know, if you want to tolerate it and pretend.

39:33I mean, look, I don't know how much more you want it in your face, but look at the expenditure and sales of Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Man City in the last five years. Not just this summer, the last five years. It's a graph. It's going up. Look at United's wages and spend. It's going down. If money wins you titles and the traditional top six, five of them are trajecting up for sales and we're trajecting down, what do you think is going to happen in the league? So five of the traditional top six are spending and receiving more money from transfers and we're trajecting down. I mean, I think it means we're going to traject down the league as well.

40:28It's the natural conclusion. Did you see the bullshit from the Telegraph about how we will spend£500 million on the defence? Those clans wouldn't even cough up£70. I mean, Clarkie, it's laughable. I remember Samuel Luckhurst at the Manchester Evening News maybe three or four years ago on this day when the window shut and it was a shit window and it was something along the lines of mega spend next summer. I think it mentioned, I mean, I don't think it was that long ago, but it mentioned people like Gareth Bale. The following summer was absolute shite. So if you're waking up this morning thinking United are going to spend hundreds of millions of pounds next year, I mean, God, what's next?

41:09Is the Tooth Fairy coming around for tea as well? Maybe she can bring, you know, the bloody Loch Ness monster and put it in the pond. Didn't even get a left back on loan. Anthony, I'm glad you mentioned Lewis Page. I mean, I would not have been excited about Page from Leicester yesterday. For me, that wouldn't have solved a problem. You know, it wasn't an exciting deal to do. The ridiculous thing about that is, and I would bookmark it, United didn't want to give Leicester 13 million. We wanted to give them 10. Swedish Rumble said this, and he's absolutely spot on. If that player even becomes a£20 million player, United have just lost£7 million.

41:52That player needs to completely and utterly flop for Man United not to look stupid.

42:02Because when you think about it, arguing between£13 and£10 million, if he's decent, he's definitely going to go for 20, 30, 40, 50 million at some point in the next two years. So United have basically fucked up, haven't they? You know, unless he is absolutely a bag of shit, that is going to be an embarrassment for United for three million quid. And this is what I mean. You'll get people who were defending Ineos and the Glazers early in the summer saying, well, we shouldn't pay 85 million pounds for Mateus Fernandes. We shouldn't overpay. But it's never really been about what the price is. It's about this ridiculous stubbornness not to overpay.

42:4310 million to 13 million and we've decided not to do it. I reckon that'll bite us on the arse as well. Unless we go back and do a deal ourselves, I think that'll bite us on the arse.

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44:32Josh says, we spent all the time last summer saying Elliot Anderson is our main man and he goes to City. I won't let them do it again about Lewis Hall. Zai says, Glenn is fully exposed. Their plan has all along been to penny pinch on transfers. Look, I don't know whether it's a positive, mate, but they're... And there, I mean, one, I don't know how it gets any better. And two, I just don't think there's anybody that rates them. I don't think there is. But whether there's an opportunity to do something about that, you know, I don't know. I think our reputation in the market is in the gutter and hence no club wants to deal with us says the Beast well the scary thing is every year it's the same story like you say the scary thing is what we've seen this summer is it's the net spend so our net spend is about£100 million isn't it and Chelsea's net spend is probably the same but if Chelsea have spent£400 and sold 300, they've got£400 million worth of players.

45:43We've spent£150 and sold 50 and we've spent£100 million and we've only bought three players. It's the inability to sell that's killed us. I've said this for weeks. Man City have sold hundreds of millions of pounds of players. So have Chelsea, right? So if I sell£400 million worth of players and spend half a billion, I've really only spent£100, but I've got half a billion of new players. You've got to be able to sell and you can make loads and loads of signings. People fixate on how have Spurs done this? How are Man City spending£300 million on their midfield? Because they're selling players and they'll do it again.

46:23You look at that Man City squad, you look at that Chelsea squad, next summer, I can already see £300 million worth of sales. I can see it. And one of those players is probably going to be Harland, isn't it? if you can't sell, you die. Tell me who United are selling for even£30 million next summer. I can't see who we sell next summer. Maguire retires. Luke Shaw's out of contract. There is no sellable assets for Manchester United. So next summer is going to be the same as this summer. We just can't sell.

47:04How is it going to change? I'm Karik out since he joined because he took the pressure after Glazers. Hope you all loyalist will be Glazers out and not Karik out when we start losing. Also, it's my birthday, says Savish. Happy birthday. Rio's blamed PSR and not selling, says Christopher. I tell you what, I'd love to have a chat with Rio about PSR because he wouldn't have a fucking clue what it is. But look, it must be lonely being the only person defending the Glazers this morning. It must be a very, I actually feel sorry for him if he's doing that and anybody else. It's a, Oh, apparently he's done a video.

47:37BRT says Rio's video is out. He said United couldn't spend more because of PSR rules and that we should take context into consideration. Fairyland. Oh, mate, he doesn't. He should have a strike on his video. He should be. YouTube should take it down for misinformation. I can't make a video saying if you don't want to get spots on your arse, drink coffee. It's factually not true. Like he shouldn't be allowed to put a video out. It's pure propaganda. of nonsense. He needs to come on stick to United. He'll get absolutely buried. What is he even talking about? He shouldn't be allowed to say that, that we couldn't spend more because PSR rules.

48:15It's just totally and utterly not true. It's just not, it isn't true. He shouldn't be allowed to do a video like that. It's just not right. It's not true. Manchester United could have spent a lot more than they did. They just didn't want to, which is a lack of ambition. I don't mind people. Why defend the Glazers? Why defend the Glazers? That's the problem. I saw this post on X. Man United feel Michael Carrick is adequately equipped for the season ahead and expect him to go far in all competitions. Ineos is already to put the blame on Carrick. I mean, I think this is going to be the look hopefully century 69 hopefully we won't be in a position where we have to blame Carrick at all hopefully this team and Carrick will defy logic and get loads and loads of good results I certainly think Everton are in a big mess and we can beat them on Sunday and a Manchester derby is a Manchester derby god we played those games as underdogs and won plenty times so look if we can still have nine points from 12 after the Manchester derby which puts us level with Man City.

49:21I don't think the thing that worried me about Hull is that happened too soon. I expected, and I said this to you weeks ago, I thought we might be 15 for 15 from the first five Premier League games. I think the start of the season for us is very, very good. Where this window hurts us is October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May. I don't think August, September, October should be a massive problem for us, which is why losing the game to Hull worried me a little bit. So I think that I don't expect problems in the immediacy. I think it's a bit like the start of a marathon, isn't it?

50:02When you're not fit, you might be okay for the first 10 minutes, but it's the final elements of the race where this becomes a problem because we won't be buying in January, will we? But it's going to be very interesting if and when things go wrong, how much people remember today. because Mourinho had a bad window. Ten Hag had a bad window. Amrim had a bad window. Oli had a bad window and they all got the blame for it. Mag says, I owe you an apology. I didn't see that coming. I mean, I think I speak for everybody. We don't want apologies. We're all in this together as United fans. We have shit ownerships.

50:41A shit owner with no ambition. It just takes some people a little bit longer to see because they want to believe, you know, as long as we're all pretty much in agreement now. That's the main thing. I'm a celebrity driver. We took a selfie, says Jewel. Only on deadline day, Chelsea got rid of five first team players, breaking in 165 million in sales, and we couldn't even loan out Xerxi. That's levels, says Marlow. Thoughts on the James Ducker article, says Rajaf. It's very good. It's very good. But I think it tries to defect. I mean, it's good in the sense that they've obviously been given information, but I think it tries to deflect the blame.

51:23You know, I think mentioning Rashford's bang out of order. I think trying to make out that, you know, all right, Lewis Skelly didn't want to come. Cermina didn't want to come, but you go and get somebody else. Now the transfer window is over. People will forget about the owners and blame Carrick like they did with Mourinho and Amarim. Some United fans have no standards, says Rez. it shows our reputation when six million is too high for a highly rated prospect says pepsi tom mcbride says imagine how amas feels now he has to stay where he will feel unwanted because once again our board was incompetent same for xerxi tom as well sean turner we all know the muppet clues in the name financial limitations are due to the debt caused by the owners that's why we can't compete thank you sean nectario says not even thanos's rings can get rid of luke shaw at left back.

52:11Well, did you see that clip from Ranić? I can't remember when it was from. It was like 2020 or something like that saying that we probably need to change our left back. Let's be honest, Mark. The best deal of the summer was making sure Anana didn't come back since Exploring Adventures. I mean, we were joking in our chat group last night. Sancho's a free agent. Brandon Williams is a free agent. You know. The deal of the summer was Rooney to be United, says Tom. I wish it wasn't, but clearly, yeah, you're right. Just roll around the floor and laugh. What more can you do, says D. How the hell could Rashford's wages mean we didn't sign anyone else?

52:53So if Casemiro had one year left on his contract, we wouldn't have signed anyone, says Conny. I know, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I can't understand how we got to the middle of the summer and they suddenly realised their first choices were too expensive. All of them got sold for around the price range we'd known for months as Slazy. Well, I think there's an interesting point there, Slazy, isn't there? We were talking about this summer transfer window in February, in March, in April, and obviously May, June, July. And it's very clear that they didn't. What was the plan in March and April?

53:28I mean, I just will never get told, but what was the plan? Because whatever the plan is, it didn't come to pass, did it? It didn't. The midfielders we wanted, we didn't get. The left back, the striker.

53:51I mean, I would love to know what the piece of paper said on May 1st because nothing on there will be what we've got. The midfielders definitely weren't the ones we wanted. Rashford being here wasn't what we wanted. I presume we wanted a left back. We didn't do that. I presume we wanted to sell more players. We didn't do that. I presume we probably wanted a striker. We didn't do that. So realistically, if you think about May 1st, everything we wanted on that day never didn't happen. They achieved nothing. And you're right. If Sir Jim Radcliffe was in any way competent, he'd be sacking certain people in the board.

54:30But we never have. For years, Woodward was rubbish. he actually resigned same with Arnold same with Murtagh and it would be the same with Barada and Wilcox people don't get sacked it amazes me how many managers have been sacked and it probably wasn't their fault from Mourinho to Oli to Amrim to Ten Hag, Van Gaal manager always gets sacked we never sack the people who are responsible on the board Barca really signing Jesus over Rashford says Rajaf Red Boss says imagine if all fans were positive about our situation and don't remember the standards what depth of the pit would the owners have taken us to says Red Boss well this is why I was on about bloody Rio's comment last week saying that you know those standards that people are talking about aren't realistic they're from 20 years ago Liverpool Football Club didn't win the Premier League for 30 years they never lost their standards Arsenal didn't win the Premier League for 20 years they never lost their standards Manchester United didn't win the league between 1968 and the early 90s.

55:40They never stopped their standards. How Rio or anyone else can say, it's 20 years ago that United used to win things, you've got to be realistic now. No. No. Stop being a fucking glazer and hold the standards of the football club you're meant to support up where they need to be. The only reason you drop your standards is to hug a glazer. they've lowered the standards why would we accept it? Why would we accept it? City spent£600 million since January all on pivotal players for their former clubs same period we spent£160 on three players only one being a starter for their former club there's levels to this game says Marlow Wazza mentioned being at the club many times a week any sign of a Glazer or Sir Jim when he's there can't take this club seriously looking bleak Jack the Glazers never visit Carrington full stop and I don't think Sir Jim probably has done it once or twice this year so they're not hands on no they're business people imagine if all fans have done that one

56:45Luke Shaw is a serious worry since the start of 24-25 he's been out for 315 days with injuries says Shane look in relation to Luke Shaw there's no argument we needed to sign a left back we haven't signed a left back he's playing badly if he continues playing badly he's an issue if he gets injured he's an issue and the replacements will be people who are stopgaps so you know maybe Belaba can be a stopgap maybe Martinez maybe Masraoui maybe Deleu maybe Dorgou but this is Champions League and Premier League football for Manchester United when you're meant to be trying to compete you shouldn't be using past it left backs and stopgaps next year Hall transfer fee will start with an 8 says Peter yeah definitely wish me a happy birthday oh wait look the ridiculous thing Peter about the Lewis Hall thing is it's a no go straight away because he's already playing well this season at left back and you're right the fee will start at 70 minimum which means United would class that as overpaying so it can't happen we already know it even if we could do that deal it can't happen because the price will start at a point we don't want to pay wish me a happy birthday please i love the community from alabama says mu kerry happy birthday hope you have a good day uh dean data dean forgot his password it's not our fault says glenios says carlo irish ghost says as stated previously we need to have a bad season we cheaped out all around if we have a successful season the board doubles down on being cheap for years to come.

58:26They need to see cheap won't work, says Irish Ghost. Let's protect Carrick, says Stuart. If this is what our board has delivered, surely sacking Wilcox and Barada will also help save costs, says Mojo. We don't need a director of football, do we? We could just do it, you know, by AI. AI would probably do a better job. 3.5 billion spent from Premier League clubs this summer. 115 million is 150 million is 4 % of that. How do they not see what is so clear? Not football people, says Jordan. And Pepsi man says potential Rashford sale to Barcelona. Man United behaved like a petulant child screaming you promised when they asked to renegotiate, says Pepsi.

59:08Look, we're going to wrap it up in a minute, but I do speak to people and you can guess who those people are. And some of those people are less emotional than we are. And what I would say is in a conversation I had with somebody yesterday, they absolutely acknowledged that United are shit at selling and it's messed up this transfer window. But they also said United are operating under financial restrictions. And I said, I don't acknowledge that because the minute I acknowledge financial restrictions as an excuse, I excuse what the Glazers have done to this football club. So anybody today saying that you've got to be realistic, United are operating under financial restrictions, say to them, what are those financial restrictions?

1:00:13because if they say FFP or PSR, you know they're talking out of their ass because we're not restricted by PSR or FFP. I mean, I'm going to have to go and see if Rio said this because that is incredible. It is incredibly stupid to say that. We are not restricted by PSR or FFP. We're not. We're just not. We're simply not. We're restricted by owners that don't want to spend money, which is something completely different. Now, why don't they want to spend money? debt, tight, unambitious. I don't acknowledge them as reasons. That's not financial restrictions that I acknowledge. I do not acknowledge a lack of ambition, debt, as a reason not to buy.

1:01:01It's the reason we haven't done it, but I don't acknowledge it. So anybody today saying, we've got to acknowledge the financial restrictions, we've got to be real. what are the financial restrictions? Because the only answer is the debt. Well, who gave us the debt? The Glazers. I don't acknowledge them as owners of Man United. But PSR and FFP, I don't even think United would put that out as an excuse because it would get blown apart. So look, I spoke to somebody I get on with really well yesterday and they were talking about financial restrictions and I said, don't. And they were like, what do you mean?

1:01:33I said, don't, don't. Don't mug yourself off thinking it's a reason and don't even try and justify that to me because there are no financial restrictions other than owners that have destroyed this football club with their own debt using it as an excuse for us not to be ambitious that's not financial restrictions that's something completely else that that's like that's like your parents refusing to buy you presents when they've got loads of money in the bank it's not financial restrictions 1.2 billion they got from Sir Jim Radcliffe for nothing. Did they pay the debt off? No. If they'd paid that debt off, would we, you know, so I don't acknowledge financial restrictions.

1:02:14I know they're there, but what are they? The new stadium could be a financial restriction. Again, I don't acknowledge that. Why are we building a new stadium? Because the Glazers let the current one rot. How happy would you be if you bought your partner a Ferrari for 100 grand and then three years later, they're like, I want an eFerrari. And you go, what's wrong with that one? I haven't looked after it. Again, I don't acknowledge this as a financial restriction. I'm sorry. You've done that. Not me. Not this football club. Man United aren't restricted. You're restricting it. You're the problem, not Manchester United.

1:02:54Is it cheaper to buy average players and when they fail, blame the manager and fire the manager, then buy decent players, says Sink. Maybe. Also, just remember, if Ineos and Sir Jim Radcliffe hadn't got into bed with the Glazers and rescued them, the Glazers would have had to sell. And we could have been two years down the journey of no debt and new owners by now. It's quite a sobering thought, isn't it? If Sir Jim Radcliffe hadn't rescued the Glazers and subjected us to the last two years of shit, we'd actually be two years down the road of new ownership and no debt. Remember that today. We're two years down this path when we could have been two years down the road of no debt and actually rebuilding the football club.

1:03:47And that's a fact. That's a fact. why did Sir Jim Ladcliffe rescue the Glazers when everybody was like, don't do it? I wouldn't have minded Ineos buying the whole club. Very different story then. If they mess up, it's all on them. But rescuing the Glazers and sending us down this road, most people looked at it and went, that's going to be an absolute shit show. Anyway, thank you so much, everybody, for tuning in this morning. I'm sure more is going to come out today. We have an eight o 'clock show tonight and we have a two o 'clock show this afternoon as well. Yeah, as I say, for me, always a very depressing show the morning after the transfer window.

1:04:34Take care, stay safe. At least we've got each other. I'll speak to you on the next one.

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