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1:42Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Art Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United news, and we're talking a huge payout from Manchester City to Manchester United that could fund a new stadium that will make Manchester red and we'll put Man City firmly back where many people think they belong in the lower leagues. We'll discuss that and how Manchester United could basically land on their feet. We're not talking 100. We're not talking 200. We're talking half a billion pounds and all it needs is Man City to be found guilty. We'll talk about the punishments that could be basically helping Manchester United on the show tonight.

2:22Also some worrying stuff coming out about Bruno Fernandes and this injury that he's been holding on to. And could Eddie Howe have been Man United's manager? We'll talk about how that could have happened with a previous director of football on the show tonight as well. Hope you're doing very well. Lots to get into. Get your comments in as well. Drive the show. I've been driving myself today up and down the M6. Stick to United tomorrow with Wayne Rooney and a special guest, Mike Keegan, is an absolute cracker. And what Wayne had to say about what he wants to happen with certainly the Aguero moment makes for some very interesting viewing.

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5:12So the independents are basically saying that Man United are among Premier League clubs preparing for potential legal action against Man City with compensation claims potentially worth more than£200 million. United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham have all preserved their right to seek compensation. Now, there is a little bit coming out tonight in relation to the bigger picture that Man City are going to try and tie this up for years. That's a completely separate conversation, isn't it? I mean, at the end of the day, for God's sake, I know you're trying to protect your football club, but you've clearly done something at some point.

5:48When does it become about your own fans? When does it become about your own players? I mean, the Premier League means nothing this year now. You're top of the league with five wins. are you seriously going to you know bog this down with two or three four years more of appeals and win a couple of more league titles that your fans won't be able to celebrate if you get found guilty I mean just just get it solved like just get it solved I mean at the end of the day I don't even massively care if you only get relegated or you only get like a massive fine but just get it sorted I mean are we seriously going to have another three or four years of your playing games of football supposedly competitive with this hanging over you I mean, just get on with it.

6:29Get on with it. That's my thought on it, because I think the Premier League is in massive danger of becoming irrelevant because of this. And Manchester City becoming irrelevant as well. I mean, who respects Man City? I expect them to get booed at every bloody ground this season now. It's turning into a farce. But how this helps Manchester United potentially is that 200 million would be around a ballpark figure for things like missing out on Champions League football, like that season with Van Gaal, where we finished fifth on goal difference and they finished fourth. We didn't go into the Champions League.

7:02They did. You can easily say, well, that's 40, 50 million pounds that we lost there. There's numerous other things that we can do around that. And that 200 million pounds would come to Manchester United in compensation. Now, look, I'm sure it will piss off Manchester City. I'm sure it will. But I don't really think if it comes to this, and obviously Man City will appeal and they might get off with it still and all that sort of stuff. But if Man City are found guilty, the door will open and Manchester United could be in for a lot of money. A lot of money directly from Man City and a lot of money indirectly from Man City.

7:36I was speaking to somebody today, it wasn't Wayne Rooney or Mike Keegan, I was speaking to somebody today and they said that Manchester United could benefit to the tune of half a billion pounds very, very quickly, all because Man City have been found guilty. And I asked why and they said, well, think about it. The compensation could be a couple of hundred million, but then Man City aren't going to be in the Champions League. As soon as this hits, they won't be in the Champions League for maybe three years. First year, relegated. Second year, championship. Third year, you're only just coming back.

8:08They could be out of the Champions League for three or four years. Who's going to step in and be in the Champions League for the next three or four years? I mean, really, it should be Man United. That's£400 million of pure profit straight away because Man City disappear from the Champions League and Man United take their place. So on top of compensation as well, you could be talking half a billion pounds heading into Manchester United. I mean, we could be getting our stadium funded by Man City's misfortune. Or well, misfortune might be a strong word. Manchester City's cheating, if you want to call it that.

8:38So it's a huge amount of money that Man United can benefit from. And it's not just Man United. Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham are all lined up to do this, which probably explains why Man City are fighting for their lives but it's a lot of money. Now, I'm not necessarily comfortable with that because who gets the money? It's the Glazers and Ineos and they're probably sat there very excited this weekend thinking of hundreds of millions of pounds for nothing because it is for nothing. It's because Man City cheated, isn't it? At the end of the day. But look, break it down. Manchester becomes red again because Man City become irrelevant and top five is still going to be Champions League spots in the Premier League and Man City won't be having any of those.

9:21Man United could benefit a hell of a lot from this, probably to build a stadium. But this is not speculative. If Man City get found guilty and the doors open to compensation, you're talking maybe a couple of hundred million. But more valuable and nobody can stop it is, with Man City outside the top four, that's another space. for somebody to walk in and say£100 million every year. And just for everybody who says, well, you know, compensation, we shouldn't be going for it. Look at the guy on the thumbnail. Erling Haaland is a player who plays for Manchester City. Oli Gunnar Solskjaer flew from Manchester to Oslo, I think, to speak to Erling Haaland.

10:07He was asked about Erling Haaland in a press conference and he couldn't contain his smile. Oli thought he was getting Haaland. And obviously Haaland didn't go to Manchester United and ended up at Manchester City via Dortmund, I think it was. But if Manchester City didn't have that money, they couldn't have bought Erling Haaland. Look at Elliot Anderson this summer. Man United's priority all season was Elliot Anderson. Why didn't we buy Elliot Anderson? Because Man City gave him ridiculous wages and paid a ridiculous transfer fee. Who else was going to give Nottingham Forest£115 million and Elliot Anderson£250 grand a week?

10:46Look at Semenyu. Who else was going to give Semenyu£250 grand a week and£70 million to Bournemouth? It's not just missing out on Champions League spots. It's not just potentially missing out on titles. it's the inflation of the transfer market and wages by a club that inflated the wages and transfer fees illegally in a footballing sense. The reason they're buying players for£100 million is because they can afford to do it, because the amount of money they've pumped into that football club. The reason they pay such big wages is because they can afford to do it because of the money they've pumped into that football club.

11:28how many players that signed for Man City would be at Manchester United now if they hadn't done what they'd done and you have to look at that as well Erling Haaland could be a Man United player Elliot Anderson could be a Man United player an Aguero moment wouldn't have happened so there's a lot of things to think I mean me and Wayne were talking about this today it's a really good show but how do you square off the last 13 years of the Premier League now like if I said to you because I said this to Wayne and you can listen to his answer tomorrow how do you square off the last 13 years of the Premier League now, does it have any credibility or is it just one big joke?

12:07Because one team did something nobody else did. And they can say, well, you know, we've got rich owners, so we did it, but nobody else did it. Other people could have done it. Arsenal could have done it. Man United could have done it. So Man United have lost out a lot. We have lost a lot, but we could end up with a hell of a lot of money coming back. And whether Man City give us£200 million or not, with them out of the Champions League, that spot could be us as well. So it'll be very interesting to see how that pans out. Let me just grab some of your court courts as well. What would you do with them, Man United?

12:44What would you do with them? As I've said before, my punishment would be relegation.

12:54And they must at least do one year in the Championship. and they must be open to compensation. I think that there's too many victims, there's too much money at stake and there has to be a punishment for it. But it's scary what it could mean for the world of football, really. Of course it is. But Manchester United do stand to benefit. The Glazers do stand to benefit and that does leave a sour taste in the mouth, I think. But yeah, they have to be punished. They have to be punished because it's not right. They broke rules that nobody else did. Whether you agree with those rules and I don't completely agree with them, they broke them.

13:37No one else did. And it's not right, is it really? Joel says, it's like getting 50 pound off the bloke that's been at it with your missus as a sorry because you caught him. I can't get excited about it. Glazers escape again. Thank you very much, Joel. A Milli Vanilli FC, says Pete. And we should get O 'Reilly from them, says nerd culture. Well, look, if Man City can't afford the 200 million pounds, I'll gladly take Erling Haaland and Elliot Anderson as part payment. I don't give a shit, really. People say they're Manchester City players, but at the end of the day, what's Manchester City now?

14:15Look, I said it to you last night and I'll say it again. If you'd said to me, what do you think about the Aguero moment a week ago? And I said, oh God, it makes me sick every time I think about it. Since Friday, I've just felt cheat every other day thinking about that Aguero moment was like oh my god I can't believe we lost the title in that way since Friday I've just been like well they cheated they cheated I mean I don't think Sky can play the Martin Tyler moment ever again I just think it's like it was one of the best best moments in Premier League history for everybody who's not a United fan now I think it's a symbolisation of cheating as things stand.

14:57I mean, things could change. They could win an appeal. But at this moment in time, that's how I feel about it. Canada Dave says, if we have cash coming from City, that means the Glazers won't be going anywhere. They want to pocket that for sure. Have you seen these prats trying to fucking look at loans and stuff? It's the same prats that told us that Sir Jim Radcliffe and Ineos were going to be good for the club. and it's the same Prats that told us Ineos would have the Glazers out by 2026. They're now going, I think I've spotted stuff in something about the Glazers selling. The Glazers aren't going anywhere.

15:34Not going bloody anywhere. They're never going to put a pound into this club from their own pocket and they are going to hang around because there is so much potential money coming into United now. I mean, they're having a disco. From Carrick struggling and not being backed to City imploding and guaranteed Champions League football for the next five years. This is the best thing that could have happened to the Glazers and they could get a few hundred million quid out of it. I mean, City doing this have probably saved the Glazers. That's the only... If they were going to go anywhere anyway. Daniel Thompson says, Hi, Mark and United stand.

16:11Hope you're well and had a good day. Very good day. Very good day. Always enjoy Sticks United on a Monday and you can obviously watch that tomorrow, Daniel. Mike has gifted a membership. Thank you very much for that. and I don't care talking about memberships we've got a cracking video that we recorded today Goldbridge against Rooney at Paddle I've never played it before and he bloody loves it so I think you know where that's going to go that's going to be on the members section soon and Mike the mechanic says I don't care about a payout but until the vermin are gone nothing else matters yeah I mean it's just absolutely killed off any glazer movements hasn't it to be honest but look they'll survive they'll survive they are they are cockroaches around this football club unfortunately Kiel Robinson says Premiership should put a stipulation that compensation should go towards debt and infrastructure first.

16:56I'd love that. Imagine that. Man City are going to give you£200 million, but you've got to pay off your debt. It just wouldn't happen. It just would not happen at all. It is sickening in a way that, as I said before, Man City have broken the rules, but they broke the rules to be successful. The Glazers took one of the richest, most successful football clubs in the world and sunk it and are still allowed to be here.

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19:08City's first game back after the break is Liverpool away. It should be interesting, says Raz. Yeah, but you know on that. Liverpool have got Izak injured. I want to talk about Bruno next, actually. So Izak's injured. Apparently Gakpo might be injured. And Liverpool are obviously rebuilding at the moment. Man City have got a brilliant team. Regardless of this news, they've still got a brilliant team. They've got five wins from five. Imagine that they'll probably go to Anfield and win. And how does that... How does the... Look, I always thought it was strange when Manchester City were being investigated.

19:44but now that we're being told and we presume it's true that they've been found guilty how can you legitimately watch Premier League games with them top of the league beating teams like Liverpool etc when they've been found guilty like and they're going to appeal for the next few years it makes a mockery of the Premier League it really does

20:14I mean I don't even know if it's legal but if I was the Premier League I'd say look you're having a 50 point deduction now you can carry on but you're having it now but I genuinely do worry about why the Premier League haven't made a statement yet and how we carry on with this season and maybe next season knowing they've been found guilty but they're appealing it because you can get off If you get found guilty, you can get off on an appeal. But everybody in the court of public opinion will still say, well, you only got off with it because you threw a load of money at it. So, you know, and also, do we get our three points back?

20:57No, we don't. Actually, that's a stupid take. No, that's irrelevant. That's why you give him a points deduction. If City are not relegated, that would mean everyone should cheat, says Loz the God. And what happens if City win the league this year, says Jacob? I mean, that's the point, isn't it? I don't know how long this appeal process is going to take, but they could win the league this year. I mean, but on the other hand, if Man City can't win the league this year, Arsenal have won it already. I mean, the Premier League title race this season is a joke, or it's officially a joke. Either Man City are going to win it with all this noise around them, or Arsenal are going to win it easily because nobody's going to compete with Arsenal this year.

21:43So this is what I mean. Finding them guilty, finding them not guilty was always going to cause a huge problem in the Premier League. Fortunately for us, titles are not, well, unfortunately for us, titles for us are not going to be really something that we're going to be involved in because our club decided not to be ambitious in the summer.

22:05Kiel thank you very much for that Why do I have a sick feeling they're going to get Offices into the wild I mean look In relation to that if Manchester City Get off with this on appeal I won't lose any sleep over it I think we all know what happened And If they get away with the punishment because of it We'll all still know what happened I will never ever Ever acknowledge that Aguero moment or their treble. Not now. Even if they get off on it on appeal, I won't acknowledge it because it's in the eyes of the public opinion now. If they got off straight away, I think you'd have to go... I think they're very lucky, but they were found not guilty.

22:54But if they get found guilty and then they get off it on appeal, I'm sorry, I'm still going to go with the guilty. And I think a lot of people will. and I won't acknowledge their titles, and I won't acknowledge their treble. But look, that's just personal opinion. Maybe some of you will. Have to hope City appeal. It all gets bogged down and payouts delayed, so Glazers can't get it. Could take years if that's the case. Yeah, but imagine what the Premier League would be like as a product, Andy, if this goes on for years now. I mean, I think at some point, you've got to try and preserve the competitive element of the Premier League and try and move on, haven't you?

23:30I know I was talking to a Man City fan today when we were filming at Stick to United and one of the producers there is a Man City fan a few of them are Man City fans and he basically just said to be honest I just want I want the result like if we're going to get relegated I want us to get relegated so we can come back I don't want this hanging over us anymore So it'd be interesting. Mojo says, the extent to which is now being discussed across all media channels and amongst all fans, I don't think City have a sniff at winning the appeal. This has to be a combination of relegation, transfer ban for a number of years.

24:11A financial penalty is of no point. Yeah, Mojo. And I think the point of the appeal is to try and just reduce whatever penalty they're going to get. People keep mentioning Chelsea, but Chelsea self-reported and cooperated. Man City, one of their charges, is not cooperating. So I think that, I think it's highly likely they're going to get some punishment. I really do. Being found guilty opens up the floodgates to so much. I think there's going to be a lot that comes out from it. Monumental for football. If we get funds, I want it going on new players plus debt, not the stadium, says Daniel. Thank you very much for that.

24:50OK, well, we can always come back to that because there's a few other things I want to talk about tonight. I want to talk about Bruno Fernandes next. So, right, lots of stuff coming out of Bruno. over the weekend. We discussed it. I spoke about it last night. He isn't playing for Portugal because he's got a problem and the Portuguese manager said he had the problem before he had the problem, if that makes sense. So effectively, he had a knock. He played for Portugal. The knock got worse. Now he's having a rest and they're trying to manage him over the international break. Why the fuck he's on international duty, I don't know.

25:20Obviously, Bruno wants to play for Portugal, but we pay his wages. I find it crazy. Personally, I know a lot of people... Look, I'll never knock Bruno Fernandes for wanting to play through the pain. This has benefited Man United a lot. But this is the Nations League. Like, this is what came out today from Rob Dawson. Sources have said that Bruno Fernandes has been managing an issue since United's win over Sabah in the Champions League. The midfielder was a serious doubt for the Premier League fixtures against Man City and Fulham before passing late fitness tests. How the hell has he gone on international duty?

25:56Who wears the trousers at Manchester United Football Club? So he's had an injury since Sabah. He's had late fitness tests against Man City and Fulham and then goes straight off to play for Portugal. Like, have we got shit for brains at Manchester United? I mean, this is the most obvious you're not going. And I would imagine what's happened is Bruno said, I'm going. I want to go and play for Portugal. If I'm playing for you against Fulham, I'm playing for Portugal. and this is where you need strong leadership. This is where you need strong leadership and this is where you need trust and respect.

26:34If Bruno Fernandes is saying, I played for you against Fulham with a knock, so I'm off to play with Portugal. I love Portugal. I'm saying, hold on a minute, Bruno, right? Hold on a minute. Let's just have a think here, right? You haven't had a great start to the season. You've passed late fitness tests against Man City and Fulham. You're now flying around Europe playing four games in three weeks for Portugal, training. I don't want you to go and I pay you wages. Well, I want to go. Hold on a minute, Bruno. You could have three weeks of light training and recuperation and miss the Nations League for Portugal and have a really good end to the season, but you'd want to keep going.

27:16I understand that you're a robot and you want to play football, but you're injured, mate. like you're not going to heal by playing and training you need you need a bloody break um you know we're actually looking out for you obviously we're looking out for ourselves but we're looking out for you as well why can't we have this conversation i i'm telling you now if this was paul pogba or marcus rashford i think we'd have a very very different conversation and the reason i use pogba and rashford is because rashford divides the fan base at the moment and paul pogba the press always used to get on at him but because everyone loves bruno and um Man United are so fucking weak.

27:52Bruno Fernandes should not be on international duty. I'd say that's Bruno's face. I love Bruno, but I'd be like, mate, you're injured. This is a massive season for us. You didn't play well against Man City and you didn't play well against Fulham. And thank you for playing because you're the club captain and you put your body on the line. But we need you fit. And the Nations League, no one actually gives a shit about it. We need you fit and you will be a better player because of it. running around half injured, you will get criticised, mate. No one's going to applaud you for playing like you did against Man City and Fulham, even though you are putting your body on the line.

28:30Get some bloody rest. Do what Rashford's done. No one's applauded Rashford for playing with a hip injury, have they? No goals and assists. Should have gone to Barcelona. So look, look out for yourself. But this is leadership. This comes down to Carrick, Wilcox, Barada. This is leadership. But what I suspect happens at Man United is Bruno wants to go to Portugal. Well, better let him. This is leadership. This would not happen under Sir Alex Ferguson. Like this is this would not happen under Jose Mourinho. We have a very, very, very difficult October and we need a fit Bruno Fernandes. So it baffles me.

29:10And I'm not wrong. This baffles me how he's had late fitness tests against Fulham and Man City. But he's now injured on international duty. having to be rested. You should. Declan Rice is sat with his feet up at Arsenal. Rashford sat with his feet up at Man United. Cole Palmer sat with his feet up at Chelsea. Bruno should be sat with his fucking feet up having a rest. And I don't care whether he wants to play for Portugal or not. Who is the manager of Man United? Who is the director of football at Man United? And who is the CEO? None of them are Bruno Fernandes. So does Bruno Fernandes run Man United then?

29:47Is that what we're saying? if he decides he wants to go to Portugal, he goes. Wrong. And look, some people have said this about Martinez in the past. Lissandro Martinez, at times, people have said shouldn't be going to Argentina, but he wants to go to Argentina. I mean, what are we? Are we Manchester United or a fucking mouse? Like, it defies logic. And you know what? If the worst happens and Bruno goes and gets injured badly, we'll all say he was right. He was absolutely right. So look, it bothers me. I don't like I don't mind it in a World Cup or a Euros Man United player's got a knock he's going to have to miss training for a couple of days to see if he can get back it mildly worries me because I think well if it gets worse they could be out when they come back for us but in an international break we should not be hearing a Man United player he's going to miss the next international game but he's going to stay around see if he can make the next one he should be coming back literally Brobby and Ballard and Isaac are all back at their clubs because they've got Knox on international duty.

30:52I've never heard such shit in all my life. He's not fit to play the game but we're hoping he can do a job in the one after that. Piss off. Doing a job for Portugal in the Nations League. Come back and have a rest. Atari says, I agree with your take on Mbomo but why does Martinez get a free pass? It's just a bang average passion merchant. This butcher nonsense is pure mythology. Look, I don't disagree with you. I mean, what Atari's talking about there is my comments around Lissandro Martinez. Sorry, Brian Mbume last night where I said, I think we've misprofiled him. I don't think he's playing very well.

31:30I think we've overcomplicated things for somebody who's actually quite a simple player to use. But look, you're not wrong to go, what about Lissandro Martinez? You could say about the same about Luke Shaw, Harry Maguire, Deleuze, Bruno Fernandes, Marcus Rashford, Cunha. There are so many players that are not performing to the level that they should do. I don't think Lissandro Martinez looks particularly dominant at the moment. And neither does Harry Maguire. I think defensively we've looked weak. But I don't think he's bang average and I don't think he's a passion merchant. But I think it's a big season for Lissandro Martinez because there's the potential of a new contract at the end of it.

32:18And if we don't give it him, then we've basically got to activate a one year or sell him. But look, I like Lissandro. I do. And, you know, maybe the butcher thing doesn't work as well as it did a couple of years ago. But I do like this Andre Martinez. But is he not just indicative of the Manchester United issue? I mean, is De Ligt going to come back and stay fit? Is Harry Maguire at 34 reliable? Is Luke Shaw reliable? Is De Lowe good enough? Is Martinez reliable? I mean, there's just so many. And that's in the defence. You know, is Yoro going to become the player we want him to be? Will Heaven get the opportunities he wants?

33:01Will Le Mennes keep growing into a top goalkeeper? I've said this about Man United before. There's too many question marks over so many players that, of course, some of them, it won't work out. The question is, who's going to work out and who's not? Because it won't work out with all of them. And maybe Lissandro Martinez will be one of those players that falls down the drain. I don't know.

33:28but in a month's time we might be having this conversation saying our defense is locked down really well and it's doing really well again so i think there's a distinct lack of pace in our back four especially centrally at the moment martinez has never been particularly quick and maguire's not quick either so um but things could change i mean look look the one name i would say that could change a lot of people's fortunes is belabor now it's a lot of pressure to put on one player. But if Beléber came into that midfield and gave us some speed and intensity and tenacity, it could change things. It's funny, really, because I was doing my career mode earlier on and it wasn't a bad stream, actually.

34:06It did OK today. But episode three, I think it was, after a bad couple of episodes, but it did quite well. But I have a midfielder in my team who is just an absolute intensity king. I did score a goal with him today, actually, but he wins all the balls and gives it to somebody else. Andre Santos. On FC 27, Andre Santos is absolutely fucking brilliant. Unfortunately, in real life, it doesn't look like he is. And I know it's only a computer game, but if you've got a midfielder that is tenacious and quick and can win the ball back, it helps, you know, it rises all ships. So I wouldn't be writing Lissandro Martinez off in short.

34:45I think things could turn around if the team starts to turn around. Silbert Wolfarine welcome to the members club thank you very much thanks for joining Make You Smile says what about the teams that have been relegated on the last game of the season to City they won't get that back the same that have missed on Champions League as well says Make You Smile none of this is wrong to question Glynios shared City news to stop the protests says Raj thank you very much for that and Mojo says Pogba was famous for releasing some silly statements in his press conferences or interviews at almost every international break.

35:21Bruno probably wanted to get away from everything crazy happening at Manchester United, says Mojo. Look, Bruno Fernandes wanting to play for Manchester United and Portugal when he's injured shouldn't be criticised. Anybody who's criticising him for doing that is wrong. There are so many players out there, especially at Man United over the last decade, who don't fancy it, oh, I'm injured. Bruno Fernandes is not one of those people. He'll do it for Man United and he will do it for his country. He will play injured. He will play with a knock. He is an incredible professional who if you are fortunate enough that he's a countryman and you're Portuguese or a Man United fan, what a personality to have.

36:05I'm not criticising Bruno. I'm criticising the leadership of Man United in not forcibly protecting Bruno from himself. He shouldn't be on that international break. I mean, we've never had a three-week international break. For the players that stay at home, what an opportunity. I mean, some players have been on holiday this week. I'm not going to say where they've been. You know, certain coaches have been on holiday this week as well. So, well, last week. So, Mag and I weren't training last week. It was like people were off on holiday. And Bruno Fernandes could have been on holiday. He could have had a week's holiday.

36:46by a pool, relaxing, resting his body. And he's not. He wants to play for Portugal. That's commendable. But somebody should be telling him he's not. Ryle says, Mark, what would you say if Bruno said, all right, I can't play for my country, then I'm handing in a transfer request. What would you say then? I would say...

37:11I personally hold the... Look, I personally hold the standards and traditions of what Manchester United is. And if somebody came into my office and said, if you don't let me go and play for my country when I've got a knock, I'm handing in a transfer request, I'd say, well, you know, save the trees and put it on email, mate. Because I won't be threatened and neither will this football club. I'm telling you not to go on international duty for your own good. And you're telling me, if I don't let you go, you're going to hand a transfer request in. Well, you know, I don't like where your priorities are.

37:46Are you interested in going to Saudi? Because I'll get 60 million. But look, that's leadership. You want to play that game, you play that game. I don't think Bruno's done that. John says the Premier League can punish them now. If they want to keep appealing, let them. The longer it drags on, the more damage it does to their own club. Thank you very much for that, John. And Leicester missed out twice on the Champions League, says Alexander. Thank you very much. So for Wolverine, welcome to the members club too. I think I did you twice there, but welcome to the members club. Thank you very much for joining.

38:16OK, this next one is is quite is quite a good one as well. So this came in from. Let me let me just make sure I get this right. We're a bit all over the place tonight because there's a few stories coming in. But this one definitely did. Oh, what's happening with JJ? JJ Gabriel. What's happening with him is crazy to me. I mean, apparently Deco has come out and said, we don't behave like that. We're not doing that.

38:56So it doesn't look like he's going to Barcelona, but Real Madrid is still interested. I mean, I don't know. With JJ, I just don't know. I think United's message is that they've done everything they can to keep him, but he doesn't feel like promises have been kept. So ultimately I think he'll end up leaving Manchester United.

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41:28His time as sporting director at Old Trafford ended shortly after. Others at the club insisted Amrim was a better choice. So basically, Dan Ashworth wanted Ten Hag to be sacked and Eddie Howe given the job. He was overruled. And then when Ten Hag did get sacked, he was overruled on Amrim. I've seen a few people reacting to this. Look, honestly, right, two things can be right, as I've said to you before. that can be shit and that can be shit I don't think Dan Ashworth was actually very good, I don't and I might be in a minority but I don't just because Wilcox isn't very good doesn't mean Dan Ashworth was the saviour I don't think Dan Ashworth was that good I know a few Newcastle fans and they said look, at Newcastle, a lot of the good he didn't bring Bruno Guimeras in so Dan Ashworth gets credited with a lot of things at Newcastle that he didn't actually do I don't think Dan Ashworth liked Gareth Southgate so I don't look I think sometimes people would rather have anybody than Jason Wilcox I don't think Dan Ashworth was a good fit for Manchester United I think the mistake was sacking Dan Ashworth and replacing him with Jason Wilcox if we'd sacked Ashworth and replaced him with the guy at Arsenal Berta who was available then then we would have been in a better situation but I don't think Dan Ashworth was the answer and I don't ever hear anything about his time at Man United that makes me think, ooh, we should have listened to him.

43:05I just think it was just another bad appointment. And as for Eddie Howe coming in after Eric Ten Hag, honestly, I'm happier with Amrim than I would have been with Eddie Howe. I don't think Amrim failed because he was the wrong choice. I think Amrim failed because the media wanted him to go to a back four and got obsessed with it. And Wilcox was too weak to stick by his original decision of building a team in the vision of what Amorim wanted to play. We never should have given Amorim the job because we weren't willing to give him the players free. I mean, we never bought him a midfielder. Anybody can see in an Amorim system, the midfield is really important and we never bought him one.

43:46So I don't look at that headline and go, oh, I wish we hadn't sacked Ashworth and we've got Eddie Howe. I don't think Eddie Howe was ever and will ever be a Manchester United manager. So I saw a lot of people talking about it then. I wanted to bring it into the show. I don't think Dan Ashworth was a good appointment. And I don't think his ideas were good appointments either. And was he not the one that was always being linked with Gareth Southgate as well? So for me, no, no. Yes, I think Ashworth's probably better than Wilcox. But we are probably talking about different shades of shit at the end of the day.

44:24You know how I feel about Bruno, says Kiel. Only concern is we have no strategy to try something new. Our future is Kunya, Buleba, Santos, Tillemans and Maynou, says Kiel Robinson. Look, I don't want to see Bruno Fernandes getting injured at any point. I don't want to see that happening at all. But the trouble with Man United's team at the moment is it's such a mess. Like if football fancier, Man City claps. Man United sue them and we are owed£200 million. And Man City say we can't pay, but we can give you players. And Man United go, we'll take Erling Haaland and Elliot Anderson. and Man City say, look, it's a fire sale, you can have him.

45:21You stick Erling Haaland up front for Manchester United and you put Elliot Anderson in the midfield with Maynou. I think, obviously, we still need a left back. We still need to sort other areas out of the pitch, but you've got a world-class striker and you've got, for me, one of the best midfielders in England. The problem with Man United at the moment is, if Bruno got injured, I could say, well, Kunja could play there and you could have Belaber and Manu behind him. And that might work quite well. But who's playing up front? Like we still need, Man United don't have a striker this season. It's incredible.

45:56We don't have a striker. I don't really think we've got a left back either. So the problem with United at the moment, I mean, look, we've already just deviated towards Lissandra Martinez. That could have easily has been Harry Maguire. Some people have been on the back of Le Mennes this season. Deleuze had a lot of shit. Embermo, last night we were talking about him. Cunha's out of position. Rashford hasn't got any goals and assists yet. Luke Shaw. There are so many holes in that team at the moment. It's so disjointed. It's so disjointed that it sends you back to the same conversation. What was the plan this summer?

46:35Oh, you know, I think there are so many conversations you'd love to be a fly on the wall for in the past for Manchester United. But literally, what was the plan this summer? Because I mean, none of this is. I think about Ten Hag's last full season and I think we had something ridiculous. Wasn't there like something stupid like 14 different centre back combinations because of injuries or something like that and over 30 different injuries across the season? That's bad luck. You know, he still lost games and he still got criticised and people still wanted him to get the sack, but that's bad luck.

47:10I don't think anything bad luck has happened to Manchester United this season yet. I just can't understand what the plan was in the summer. Let's not get a left back. Let's not get a striker. Everything that's happening to us, you could have seen it, but it's such a disjointed team, squad at the moment. It's so disjointed. We haven't got a decent right back. We haven't got a decent left back. We don't know what our starting centre-back pairing is. And in a back four, Maguire and Martinez haven't got the speed. We don't know what our midfield is yet. Bruno is injured. Rashford is injured and hasn't hit the ground running.

47:54Kunja is playing out of position. Mbemo is struggling. There are so many issues with that team at the moment. But I can already see what's going to happen. I think we will creep our way into the top four again like we did last year because we're better than everybody else. Well, no, that's not even the statement. I think we'll find our way in the top four again because we're not as shit as everybody else is. And that's exactly what happened last year. We didn't get third place because we were brilliant. We got third place because we were slightly less shit than everybody else. And I think that could happen again.

48:29I'm also concerned how we're easily getting out of the Carabao Cup. I mean, the EFL Cup is the least of three, but come on, it's embarrassing. You know what? Silver Wolverine. Welcome to Members Club, by the way. I think that Carabao Cup exit almost got swept under the carpet very, very quickly. It was a... I mean, look, I can't remember. We got knocked out by Grimsby last year. We got knocked out by Brighton this year. We don't have... Since Ten Hag's gone, we don't really have a good Cup record at all. So, yeah, it was concerning. But we are, aren't we, in sort of this weird situation with United at the moment.

49:15We've had a really bad start to the season. The team is very disjointed. The owners are clueless over the last two years, the decisions they've made. So in many ways, the club's in a right mess. But then there's this City stuff that's going to bail us out. I mean, look, there's not a lot to be positive about United. The team's a mess. The league table's a mess. The football's a mess. Carrick's being scrutinised. The owners are a joke and the board are being criticised too. So everything about United at the moment is a mess. but this Man City stuff is probably going to save them to the tune of a few hundred million quid.

50:00It's a weird time. It's a really, really weird time. Haaland would never want to come to United because of what happened to his dad, says United, since 83. I don't agree with you on that. I think Haaland was close to coming to United because of Solskjaer.

50:20I mean it was Roy Keane who did it to his dad I don't think I mean look it would never happen now but I feel there was a time when he would have done yeah I think there was a time where it would have happened

50:38Mordita says if you were in the place of the Glazers what would you do? please don't talk only in favour of your reach it's a business you are a banker did you ever think of waiving bank charges balance sheet? I don't know what that means, Maud, but if I was a Glazer, there is no way.

50:58I mean, look, what you're trying to ask me to say is I would never be a Glazer because I would never own Man United just for money. I wouldn't. I love Manchester United, so it just wouldn't happen. To be a Glazer, I can't be a Man United fan. And effectively what they've done is they've acquired something that's very profitable by leveraging their debt against it and then bleeding it dry for 20 years and then still looking at more ways to bleed it dry, which is the stadium. What is irrefutable with the Glazers is that they see Manchester United as a pipeline of cash. they've never seen it as something that they care about that they want to put their own money in so it's it's very similar to buying a restaurant that makes a lot of money and just taking the money off it never refurbishing it or anything like that so they've not changed in 20 years they just siphon money out of man united so the longer they're here the more that aim will be You know, there are morons in our fan base that think when we build a new stadium, because it's big and there'll be a cinema complex and they can make more money.

52:17They think because the club will make more money, we'll start buying the next Sterling Haaland, but we won't. That money will become dividends. It doesn't matter whether Man United make a tenner or a million pounds. The result will be the same. the Glazers will take what they can out of a tenner and they'll take what they can out of a million. There's never going to be a day under the Glazers where they go, oh, let's forget about all this and let's start pumping. The stadium is just a vehicle to make more money out of Man United because once that stadium's built, Man United become more valuable.

52:58So instead of being a£5 billion club, you become a£10 billion club. it's all about increasing their value. That's all it is. It takes some people time to figure that one out and I can't understand why. They've never put a penny of their own money into Manchester United, which is incredible. Poznan dance on that, you cheat, says last of the Redskins. Thank you very much for that. Okay, look, tomorrow we have got eight o 'clock. We've got Mike Keegan, a fantastic journalist, especially around the Man City stuff and the sale of Manchester United a couple of years ago with Blazers and Ineos. I really enjoyed the video with Mike and also asked Wayne about all his opinions on whether he'd want a title, what should happen to Man City, does he feel angry about Man City?

53:47Very, very good. Very, very good show. Obviously, I've seen it already because I recorded it today. That's out at 8 a.m. tomorrow. Make sure you subscribe. You can also listen to it on Spotify and on Apple if you aren't in a position to watch it on YouTube. Remember, Stick to United. All our episodes, the interview with Wes Brown, everything is on Spotify and on Apple as well. So make sure you're downloading it and listening it there. You might be on the bus. You might want to take your dog a walk. Great show tonight, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in. We're back with Stick to United tomorrow.

54:17And tomorrow night, we've got the... I think we're doing England tomorrow night. Aren't we? We're England playing tomorrow night. Anyway, thanks for watching. Take care. Stay safe. Fantastic show tonight. Really enjoyed it. and I'll speak to you on the next one.

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