


Manchester United are “in crisis” after a poor start (4 points from 12), including a bad derby performance versus Man City (40 minutes before/30 after a goal while City had 10 men). Host Mark Goldbridge argues the club’s messaging is spin, tactics lack identity, and recruitment/selection decisions are confusing.
No named guests appear in the transcript. The episode is primarily Goldbridge speaking to listeners, reading comments, and referencing other media (e.g., Fabrizio Romano, Simon Stone, Gary Neville, Roy Keane).
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Discussion about the state of Manchester United and recent performance.
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Discussion about the state of Manchester United and recent performance.
“Apparently, we've got the third highest possession in the Premier League so far.”
Mark evaluates the team's transfer activity and its impact on the season.
“And obviously, I want to be driven by yourselves as well.”
Discussion on the expectations and aspirations for Manchester United's season.
“I don't think it's gone, but what I do think is...”
Analysis of possession statistics and their implications for team tactics.
“His public comments that the team is good and will do well has been also reflected internally.”
Mark reflects on the Manchester derby and the team's current capabilities.
“Don't never tell me we're not a counter-attacking team.”
Discussion regarding community support and a poignant fan story.
“You know, I've obviously spoken to a lot of people today and I've done a lot of driving today.”
Discussion on the shortcomings of Manchester United's recent transfer activities.
“And just to rub a little bit of salt in the wound of the summer transfer window, let's not forget, we spent£70 million on a striker last year who isn't being picked.”
Analyzing the questionable decisions regarding player selections and formations.
“Tillemans is the only signing that starts.”
Critique of the board's decisions that have impacted the team's performance.
“But it all comes down to the same word, confusion.”
Exploration of the team's fitness levels and how it affects their gameplay.
“And I don't think that transfer window really was what he wanted.”
Discussion on questionable player usage and expectations from the squad.
“You know, they should be walking off exhausted.”
Critical assessment of the team's lack of vision and tactical failures under current management.
“Sam says, but at the end of the day, it came from somewhere.”
The hosts discuss Manchester United's poor start to the season and their standing compared to rivals.
“and what sort of ambition is that as a football club?”
The conversation explores the issue of having possession without creating scoring opportunities, using a relatable analogy.
“And you go into the bar at eight o 'clock at night.”
The hosts express their frustrations with VAR's role in the game and its irrelevance to Manchester United's performance.
“against 10 men before that goal and another 30 minutes after it.”
Discussion on the current management strategies and player performances, citing specific examples and frustrations.
“And I think as football fans of this football club, we've seen this happen too often.”
A look at the challenges facing Manchester United in assembling a competitive team amidst financial constraints.
“Like, it's not negative to call out standards that are not good enough.”
The discussion centers on Bruno Fernandes's impact on the team, his strengths, and potential future challenges.
“the suitability for the role I saw something very very good today actually and it's very very true So the board can be absolutely incompetent and Michael Carrick can be out of his depth.”
Discussion on the impact of managerial changes on team performance.
“We never turn it around when things go south.”
Exploration of season predictions and the reality of team performance.
“so what did I predict oh god have you seen that clip of me Have you seen that clip of me going, I think we'll get 12 points from the first four.”
Discussion on player ambition within Manchester United and its implications.
“To all United fans, me included, hyping a midfield rebuild on a budget.”
Insights on the club's management and player satisfaction regarding ambitions.
“And we have United fans going, well, he didn't want to come, stop moaning.”
Discussion on the identity of the current season and goals for the club.
“I think that I don't know whether players do that anymore.”
Exploration of the need for a club-wide reset and addressing long-standing issues.
“as a football club especially not at Manchester United.”
Discussion on Sir Jim Ratcliffe's potential feelings about the club's current state
“I'd be saying to Barada and Wilcox, lads, what the fuck's going on?”
Analysis of player performances under different coaching staff
“But they seem to have this dangerous combination of clueless and ignorance and delusion.”
Concerns about the overall structure and management of the club
“and we've got Southgate's number two as well.”
Discussion on potential managerial changes and the team's outlook
“That's never going to happen with this ownership.”
The hosts express their frustrations with the current ownership and management of Manchester United.
“We'll keep falling down the barrel until new owners, says DP.”
The conversation shifts to player performance and the tactical decisions impacting the team's success.
“But one of the things I did say to Wayne was, how does Deleuze stay on the pitch for 90 minutes playing shit when you've got Masraoui on the bench who is fit and most people think are better?”
The hosts engage with fans, discussing their sentiments and shout-outs to listeners.
“I'm sure we'll pick up this tomorrow night as well.”
The hosts engage with fans, discussing their sentiments and shout-outs to listeners.
“Late at night, when you are hunched over a table, surrounded by plans and old coffee cups, and you have the moment of realization.”

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1:42Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United news. United in crisis. That is not a headline of spectacle or anything like that. We are in crisis. Let's get into it tonight. The usual spin coming out. Apparently, we've got the third highest possession in the Premier League so far. Omar Barada. Hold on a minute. Actually, just before this, actually. I wasn't going to mention this, but who remembers this quote? Ideally, we win it this season, the Premier League. And if not, then the following season. I think we're in a good place. That's the words of our CEO two months ago.
2:17Ideally, we win the league this season, if not next season. And then I think we're in a good position. That's the CEO saying that. And look at where we are tonight. So look, we'll delve into that. I also want to talk about, well, the confusing mess, I suppose. with Manchester United. Like, I'm just confused. I genuinely am just confused. I don't really grasp what we're doing as a football club at the moment when it comes to the midfield, the defence, the tactics. I think there's a lot to get into tonight. And obviously, I want to be driven by yourselves as well. But just some of the topics I want to talk about.
3:01I mean, I've heard people saying we're missing Ahmad. The same player that people have said isn't producing the goods. I've heard people saying it's because VAR. Couldn't give a toss about VAR. Couldn't give a toss about the red card. We played against 10 men for most of the game. We didn't create any chances we were shit. You know, I don't understand that. I think the lack of summer activity has obviously hurt us. I agree with that. I think technically we only bought one player, by the way. Look at the game yesterday. Only Tilleman started. Belaber is injured and Santos is a bench player. So we've replaced Casemiro with Tillemans.
3:36That's all we've done really in a summer transfer window. And the headline for me is if this season is going to be successful, tell me I'm wrong. If this season is going to be successful, we're basically hoping that everybody else is shit. Like we did last year. We are hoping everybody else is shit. I don't think the season's gone, J-Dead. I really, really don't. I don't think it's gone, but what I do think is... Oh, hold on a minute.
4:11Why am I getting... Is anyone else getting Echo?
4:18I don't understand what's going on here.
4:24No.
4:28This is really strange.
4:34I can't do anything about that. OK, as long as you're not getting it, I can hear my voice about a second behind, but that's fine. As long as you're not getting it, I thought I was going mad. As long as you're fine, that's all that matters. But yeah, I've completely forgotten what I was saying there. Yeah, I don't think the season's gone, no. I literally do think that we are all... The ambition of Manchester United, and this is shocking to me, the ambition to Manchester United is let's hope Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle, Spurs, Aston Villa have a shitter season than us. Because I tell you what, if three of those clubs have a good season, I think we're in big trouble.
5:14And that's the aspiration of Manchester United now. And you've got Fabrizio Romano coming out saying the club, listen to this, listen to this, this is no nonsense. Despite a disappointing start to the season, just four points from 12, United remained fully convinced that the future is bright under Carrick. The club did want to add a left back during the summer but could not find an option they were sufficiently convinced by and they refused to sign someone merely for the sake of it. They continue to have total faith and confidence in Carrick. Carrick himself remains equally convinced that the squad can perform well in the weeks and months ahead, particularly after the international break.
5:48His public comments that the team is good and will do well has been also reflected internally. What the hell is going on at this bloody football club? You know, I don't believe it. I mean, I genuinely don't believe it. Victor Meldrew FC. We've got four points from 12, but don't worry. Romano's telling us that Carrick's fine and everybody's confident. Fuck off. Seriously, I have to say that. Sorry for swearing. I have to say that. Do one. What type of moron do you think supports Manchester United? your CEO said if not this season the title next season right and now you're telling us oh everything's fine we're gonna have a good season we're confident everything's gonna be okay give me three things to make me think this season's gonna be okay I think we're worse than last season I think the squad looks an absolute mess Carrick made two substitutions yesterday when he needed to make 10.
6:50And he obviously doesn't trust the bench behind him. We've integrated Rashford back in on the left at the detriment of Cunha and everybody else. It's a bloody mess. It's an absolute mess. And they're out there going, don't worry, everything's going to be OK. I'll tell you what, do worry, because Amazon are documenting this. How are you going to script this? I do not know. You can just imagine the editing for August and September, can't you? Could we interject Beckham's goal from the halfway line and pretend that happened. And what about Solskjaer's winner in the Nou Camp? I mean, it's incredible to me.
7:26I actually saw something today as well, that Manchester United have got the third highest average possession in the Premier League at 60.5%. And I think this is meant to be some sort of spin, right? Of course, we've got high possession. We've played two newly promoted teams who parked the bus and we've played Everton who parked the bus and we've played Man City who had 10 men. Of course we've got bloody high possession. We've played fucking four teams that part the bus. Let's see how that possession's going later on in the season. But even better than that, even if you are knocking one out to the fact that we've had high possession and we've only got four points.
8:04Look at this from H, who I do the Fantasy Premier League with. Manchester United since August 25, with 55 plus possession, played 20, lost 6, drawn 7, won 7. with less than 45 % possession, played 10, won 10. OMG. Oh my God. So basically, with over 55 % possession in a game, we haven't won 50 % of those games. With less than 45 % possession, we've won every game. Don't never tell me we're not a counter-attacking team. Never, ever tell me we're not a counter-attacking team. We've literally won 10 out of 10 when we have less than 45 % possession. Because that's what we are. We're just park the bus and vibes.
8:51We are literally the definition of park the bus and counter, literally. So look, let's delve into some of the stuff. I know I've sort of gone through a lot of the headlines there, but I just wanted to get a few things off my chest and start getting into some of your comments as well. Big shout out to Bacardi Rambo, who has got to have the best name ever. Welcome to the Members Club. And Chris Edge as well. Thank you so much for joining the Members Club and getting your Badgers in, loads of stuff for you to check out there. I was in Manchester today. I filmed two episodes today. One with a guest, which is going to go out on the international break.
9:23Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What, what, what, what? I just sometimes want to say thank you to all of you. The people I get to sit, I mean, I get to sit opposite Rooney every week, but unbelievable who I was sat in front of today. And also, Stick to United goes out tomorrow morning. I think, again, I thought last week was good. This week, it's just straight into it. It's just, I think you get an hour and 15 because we just went back and forth for an hour and 15 minutes and it's totally topical and it's totally about what's going on at Man United. So check that out 8am tomorrow morning. But yeah, and look, to be fair, I thought Wayne was very, very good.
10:00I thought he was very, very good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no protecting Carrick or the Glazers. It was good, really, really good. Also, I just want to do this. And I really want to say I've dropped a link in the live chat for Lewis's Legacy, which is a video on Manchester United Foundation. And it's the story of a special United fan and his family's support of the foundation. We are a family as a fan base, but we are also a family as a community. And I got this email last week from Lewis's dad, Lee. and he basically said that Lewis, massive Manchester United fan, always listening to the United stand on his way home after matches, sadly passed away in a car accident on the 2nd of January last year and obviously devastating for the family since he's died, they've been supported by the Manchester United Foundation, which is a charity and And they've donated nearly 12 ,000 so far on behalf of Lewis.
11:14They emailed me and I said, look, I watched the video. I'm going to put it out in the chat and people can go and watch it. I would urge you to do it. Remember, the Manchester United Foundation has got very little to do with Sir Jim Radcliffe or the Glazers. This is a foundation and they do a fantastic job. And I would urge you to watch that video. And thank you to Lewis's mum and dad for getting in contact and making us aware of it. And obviously a very, very powerful story. So please do check it out. I'd appreciate that.
11:53Back to the show. I just want to fly through some of these comments because there's some stuff I want to talk about. But just before I do, how do I feel 24 hours on from the Manchester derby? Pissed off. Pissed off. You know, I've obviously spoken to a lot of people today and I've done a lot of driving today. So I've had a lot of thinking time. I've listened to a lot of things. I've spoken to a lot of people. And you know what? I can't find a crumb of comfort. Honestly, I can't. I really can't. I look at that Man United side, nobody starts for Arsenal. And over the years, I think this is such an important thing.
12:35This is not a bloody social media experiment, like name a player, stay silent till you find a player that starts for Arsenal who's a Man United player. You'd be silent forever, right? Like Manchester United should not have a situation where you can't get one player in an Arsenal team. And you can't. There is no Man United player that gets in an Arsenal team. Literally. The only one that you might get in there is Bruno, but you take Odegaard over him every day of the week at the moment. Like we are shit. And I think that's the harshest reality at the moment is that in the summer, some of us were very realistic.
13:14Negative. in the sense that we were worried. And some of us said in July, all we're going into this season with is hope because they haven't provided the platform to be sure or optimistic. They're just giving us hope. And this season, we are shit. And look, I think it's really important to remember, well, you could do it with the whole league if you want, but no Man United player gets in an Arsenal side. No Man United player gets in a Man City side after yesterday. So what are we? In the quest to figure out what Man United are this season, and it was Lissandro Martinez himself who said on Thursday, who knows what we're going to achieve.
14:02We are shit. That is what we are. We are shit. And just to rub a little bit of salt in the wound of the summer transfer window, let's not forget, we spent£70 million on a striker last year who isn't being picked. And we spent£50 million on a midfielder this summer who isn't being picked. And this is despite our other£70 million midfielder not being fit. So I pose the question, the summer transfer window was shite. And I think most of you gave it a two or a three. I would now give it a one because we've only bought one player at the moment, Tillemans. Tillemans is the only signing that starts. Why did we buy Santos when he had an entire pre-season?
14:51Don't tell me he's not ready. Why is Santos not getting minutes? Why is Bruno Fernandes going into the midfield twice already this season? As I said yesterday, Amorim put Bruno in the midfield and we wanted him doing time, you know, for crimes to football. Carrick has been given midfielders that Amrim never got. This is not about Amrim, by the way. Amrim never even got a midfield signing. Carrick has had 150 million pounds of midfield signings and he's still putting Bruno in the midfield. So tell me what the vision is and tell me why we bought Santos, because don't talk to me about integration, getting used to the Premier League.
15:32You know, he doesn't speak the language or any bollocks like that. He's been in England for a couple of years. He sat on the bench at Chelsea. He's played Premier League games for Chelsea. He had an entire pre-season. He was the new Casemiro in pre-season. He can't get a bloody kick at the moment. Why have we bought... Who decided to buy Santos? Because I tell you what, don't talk to me about, oh, he'll be fine in the future. Look what happened with Amrabat. Look what happened with Agate. If you don't get these players in, and they're just a shiny new toy that you put in the cupboard and you might use, they end up like a Christmas present that you never use.
16:07What was the plan with Santos? And did Carrick sanction it? I know people will go, that's a little bit niche to be talking about, but there's a lot of niche topics to talk about tonight. But you tell me why Santos is not starting games for Manchester United. 50 million quid. We won't overpay. We won't overpay. We will not pay 85 million pounds for Mateus Fernandes. who the data says is the player that we really, really need, but we will pay£50 million for a player the manager doesn't even want to use. I'm confused. Why is Cunha now an invisible number nine, not a false nine, an invisible nine when he was so good on the left wing last year?
16:50It's confusing. It's really confusing. And, you know, so much of our season depends on Balaba coming in and being fantastic now. I mean, realistically, I'm seeing people online today going, we've really missed Ahmad. And I'm laughing my head off because I like Ahmad. But all I heard last season is, and Ahmad's got no end product. And suddenly, Ahmad's now the missing piece. Ahmad's the reason we're not winning games. And a very good point there from BlaBla. Who is Santos going to bench? I mean, this is what I mean. He can't get in the team when Balaba's not fit. When Balaba is fit, when does he play?
17:29Now, hopefully you'll play against Brighton on Wednesday, but I think we have a... What I'm trying to say, and I should have just said it bluntly, to add to all the crap that's going on at the moment, like all the confusion, all the bad results, I also think the board of bought players Carrick doesn't want. I genuinely think Carrick didn't really want Santos. And I might get proven wrong about that. But if we were so desperate for midfielders, why is he not using Santos? Why is he putting Bruno in the midfield instead of bringing Santos on? He clearly doesn't think he's ready. But he isn't Lacey, who's a kid.
18:10This is a guy that we paid 50 million pounds to Chelsea for, for Premier League proven. It's mad. It's madness. And look, you can have the same conversation about Sesco, of course you can. But it all comes down to the same word, confusion. I don't actually get what we're trying to do at the moment. And as for left back, I told you, I do not want Dorgou playing at left back. I really don't. I don't. But we needed to buy a left back and we didn't do it, which is baffling as well. Let me grab some of your comments, actually. Hi, Mark. I'm here to eat my words and apologise. I'm a newer United supporter and used to think you were too critical, but yesterday broke me and I apologise because you were right, says VX.
18:53Look, I don't mind that. You don't need to apologise. I'm not one of those people or whatever you want to call it, who, you know, wants to be right. I think there are people that are out there that come out with these really determined agendas against players or managers because they want to get proven right. I don't want to get proven right. I just can see what's going to happen. The summer transfer window was crap. Carrick papered over the cracks last year. We were always going to get exposed this year unless we had something new. And actually, I think we've taken a step backwards. But the scary thing for me is, and it's obvious in a sense, is that he is a coach.
19:40He is a head coach. He is not a manager. And I don't think that transfer window really was what he wanted. because if you'd bought Carrick what you wanted, he'd bloody well use it. And when you're using Bruno Fernandes in the midfield, this is exactly what Amrim did when he didn't get any midfielders. And Carrick's doing it with midfielders. So I worry that I think it could be worse than we thought in relation. The summer transfer window was not great, but I think it could be even worse than we thought. Harry has no style. Welcome to Members Club. I do not recognise this team. There is no identity, says James.
20:18Do you remember people thought Rashford had a must play clause in his contract, says Hodgie? Look, I mean, I think you could, you know, I've seen a lot of things. I've seen a lot of things about Rashford. I saw something today about how, you know, integration without consequence. He was removed from the football club for a reason. He comes back into the football club and is straight into the team at the detriment of other players. It's a conversation. It's a conversation. Mojo said, you said it, this team will not be able to play or manage two games a week. At the first time of asking, we couldn't turn up versus City having played Sabah.
20:54Beyond tactics, there was an evident of lack of energy. The team played lethargically, says Mojo. Well, I think Mojo, this has been levelled at Carrick and his coaching staff since we beat Man City last time. We had this incredible intensity against Arsenal and Man City in his first two games. And it was almost like a new, it's like putting a new set of tyres on you know you do a couple of good laps and really good times but then the tyres start to wear and the times get slower and we've never replaced the tyres and I think you're right I think there was this intensity at the start in January that's gradually gone down and down and down and down we haven't heard it this year but we did hear it last year you know they get more time off Carrick listens to the players more but we are not fit I thought against Sabah in the first half, they were way fitter than us.
21:46I thought Hull were fitter than us. I thought Everton were fitter than us. And I think Man City were 10 men. I think Roy Keane said it. You know, they should be walking off exhausted. And I don't think they did. Wilcox said, judges at the end of the window, we work harder to spin PR with the journalist and divide the fans instead of trying to build a proper football team. Our fans deserve better. Just on that, Santana, I must say, it wasn't Wilcox who said that. I got this queried to me last week. Somebody said, why do you keep saying Wilcox said judges at the end of the window? And I said, because he did.
22:20And they went, no, he didn't. I can't find the quotes anywhere. So I went and did some research and it came from a very credible source, Simon Stone. And Simon Stone said, a senior person at Man United said judges at the end of the season. So we never actually got the name Wilcox. We just got senior person at Man United. So, you know, was it Wilcox? Could have been Brawda, could have been Favell, could have been Sir Jim, could have been the head of commercial. I don't know. Sam says, but at the end of the day, it came from somewhere. Sammy says, why the false nines? In the last 30 years, only Spalletti's Roma and Pep's Barca sustained it.
22:57I like Cunha, but he's not totty, let alone Messi. Even Pep abandoned his at Bayern and City for Lewandowski and Aguero, says Sammy. I mean, look, I don't have a lot to say on that, Sammy, other than I bloody hate playing a false nine. I hated it when Pep did it, and I'm not a Man City fan. Right, Wayne, what are we doing here today? Filming promo for a new podcast, me and Mark Goldbridge. What's the podcast called, Wayne? I don't know. What is it called? Oh, that was good. Wayne is a player. Exactly what Man United was all about. And I'm sure we're not going to agree on everything. What would you think about Mark if you were a current player?
23:36Probably think he's just... We'll be reacting to all the games. Do you do your own painting in your house? All the big stories. Just having my socks on and my underpants. Good. Hopefully no sackings. Hopefully. He's gone first, I've bolted him. I think we will have debates. That's why I was saying you can go first. I did. On the volley. United. Oh, perfect. On the pitch, off the pitch. I've got a little goal in my garden. I'd have saved that, to be honest. Stiff United it's coming soon so I definitely don't like it as a Man United fan and the topic tends to be Sesco doesn't it like I don't understand the Sesco and look me I don't want to delve in it too much because I had a huge debate with Wayne about it today and you'll see it tomorrow so I don't want to have to be very careful that I don't throw out because it was such a good conversation today I don't want to throw out stuff I said today tonight because you'll get it tomorrow but what I would say is all of you are right.
24:33I think the Sesco conversation is valid. You could say things like when Man United say they're going to build the defence next summer because they did the midfielder this summer and they did the attack last summer. Well, did they? Just because you buy attackers one summer and midfielders the next summer doesn't mean you've done it. What if like Tillemans breaks his leg and never plays football again? What if Santos is a flop? Well, you need another two midfielders. And if you're not going to play Sesco, you need another bloody attacker. But I find the Sesco thing baffling. And at no point do I think that Carrick has shown any real confidence in Sesco.
25:19I don't. I think last season we were having the same conversation, if you remember. This is not a new thing. February, March, April, he wasn't starting him consistently. And we're all saying start Sesko. He's never given Sesko a run of games, which is incredible to me because he's not a 19 year old from the youth setup. He's played in the Champions League with Leipzig. He was a regular starter for Leipzig. He should be starting games. He costs 70 million quid and he won't start him. So I think at some point, if Sesko doesn't start, I will say this and then move on. If Carrick doesn't start playing Sesco soon, then we've got to start assuming he doesn't like him.
26:01Because, you know, that's essentially true. And look, I think the thumbnail says time is up and Man United in crisis. Can I just clarify? This is not sensationalist. Going back to that person who apologised and said, you know, I thought you were a bit too critical. We're critical because the club's being run badly. We're critical because we've got four points from 12. We're critical because the season before last, we finished 15th. We're critical because Coventry and Ipswich are spending more money than us. We're critical because that team doesn't look very good. We're critical because the vision for the future is try the same thing from the past.
26:37I mean, you know, if you look at it, you've got Santos sat on the bench as a£50 million player in his early 20s. You've got Lacey not getting any minutes as a youth player. You've got Sesko not coming on until it's 1-0 with 20 minutes to go. You've got Yoro not being used. Heaven not being used. Like, the future is a vision. But the vision is put Bruno back in the midfield. The vision is bring Rashford back and put him on the wing. The vision is go with the back four that Ten Hag had. Like, this... There is no vision. Like, I watch Man City. I said, right, I said this yesterday morning. Over half that Man City side hasn't played a Manchester derby at Old Trafford.
27:29Gehi didn't play in January. Anderson's new. Rodri's not there. Pep's not there. And they came to Old Trafford and bossed us with something new. And we're still using the same old tactics. And look, I'm not for one minute saying the season's gone. I'm not for one minute saying we won't get top five. But the only reason we'll get top five at the moment is because Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle and Spurs might be worse than us because they've got their own problems. and what sort of ambition is that as a football club? Look, I don't really give a shit about third, fourth and fifth. What I care about is we're eight points behind Arsenal and City after four games.
28:15And I think that's absolutely shit. Eight points behind Man City and Arsenal when only 12 have been played for and we played two newly promoted teams and 10 men Man City. It's abysmal. intensity good for a month when Carrick came in because players still had fitness from proper training under Amorim then slowly getting worse look Marlowe it's been said many many times and there is definitely something wrong with our fitness there is and there's this thing about possession you know we're good on the ball you know Carrick said it a few times I've seen people online talking about it I thought we were good in the first half against Everton we were very good against Ipswich which we looked in control of the ball in the first half against Man City.
29:05But there's no end product. There's no end product, is there? It's like being in a bar, right? And you go into the bar at eight o 'clock at night. You got a really nice suit on. Splash of aftershave. You look a million dollars. You walk up to the bar. And throughout the night, these stunners keep coming up to you and go, having a chat and all this. But at the end of the night, they all go off with someone else because you don't see all the deal. That's what possession without end product is. It's flirting, but not getting past first base. What's the point in control? I mean, look, I go back to what I said before.
29:51There's a hypocrisy in people who say we've looked good in possession. We've won 10 games out of 10 when we've had less than 45 % possession. We're clueless with the ball. I want us to be a high possession team, but we're clueless without the ball. And can I just say this as well, because I've got no intention of talking about this tonight beyond this. I do not care about the VAR. Listening to players and Carrick and fans going on about the VAR, I do not care. I don't care. I've spoken about VAR for the last five years and how it screws people over and it will screw people over and it happened to us yesterday.
30:35But if you are using VAR as a reason to justify our shit starts the season, you need to go and get a pair of these because we played for 40 minutes against 10 men before that goal and another 30 minutes after it. That was not why we lost. It was not why we lost. We were bloody awful. And who's to say if that goal had been disallowed, Man City wouldn't have felt a sense of injustice and gone and scored again. I mean, straight after that goal, Haaland missed the sitter. So the VAR thing is irrelevant. Look, VAR, what a joke. You know, on a broader scheme, we see it most weeks. VAR is a joke. But VAR is not why we lost the game yesterday.
31:29And I found it almost insulting to listen to players and the manager come out yesterday talking about it. Because I tell you what, if I was manager in Man United, I'd have said something about the VAR because it was a joke. But I also would have said, look, I'm furious about that. That shouldn't happen. But let's not forget we were shit. We shouldn't need that to beat them. We're at Old Trafford in front of 75 ,000 fans. And, you know, we were about, you know, we had no tempo. We had no intensity. We had no passion. It was like being at a party we didn't want to be at. That's what United were yesterday.
32:14It was. It was like a surprise party for your biggest enemy. We just weren't interested. And all that experience that we go with, Deleuze, Maguire, Martinez, Bruno, Rashford, all these players that have been here for years, and it was shit. It was really shit. Hiring characters. And look, there will probably be people in the comments going, oh, negative, he's going after Bruno, he's going after the same old players. Tell me I'm wrong. I'm not individualising it. I'm saying yesterday, those players were shit. Yesterday, Carrick was shit. That's not Sack Carrick. That's not Sell Bruno. They were shit yesterday.
32:56If they'd gone and won the game 4-0 when Foden got sent off, we'd all be sat here going, we're back. Something to get excited about. But they weren't. They weren't. It's not negative. It's a fact. They were shit. And I think as football fans of this football club, we've seen this happen too often. And it needs, it won't change though, because I still think fundamentally the job is impossible. I do. Hiring Carrick was to maintain the status quo at the club, says Patrick. It was cloaked in trying to reaffirm the United Way when actually it was just solidifying the Glynios way, says Patrick. Well, yeah, I mean, I think that, I mean, we'll never know, but would an Emery take the job?
33:44And I use Emery as an example because Enrique is not a fair example, but, you know, I don't know that an Emery or an Iriola would have took the job because they might be intelligent enough to go, I'd love to come to Manchester United, but what's the budget? Well, it's less the nip switch. Yeah, forget it. Whereas Carrick would sign anything, wouldn't he? Because it's literally, you're never going to get a Premier League job unless you take this and it's Manchester United. So, and as I said to you a few minutes ago, the Santos signing terrifies me because I just, I think that when you do this for long enough as a fan, you do notice the way certain things get hidden and certain things don't.
34:35Like there are certain journalists and certain prominent Man United voices who, if this was Amorim, would be saying, why has he bought Santos and then he doesn't use him? Why is Bruno back in the midfield? You know, look at the tactics, they're shit. If that was Amorim or Ten Hag, it would be a very different conversation. But if it's Karik or Oli, don't talk about the Bruno in the midfield, don't mention Santos for 48 million and he doesn't even use him. Don't mention the fact that Sesco, you know, basically was an afterthought yesterday when he should have started. But I don't blame Carrick for that.
35:10I don't blame Oli for that. I blame these people who, you know, purport to be, look, they're cheerleaders when everything's going well. But when things go wrong, they'll only tell you half the story unless it's a foreign coach. I was laughing my head off today because there literally was no Rio Ferdinand reaction video. Apparently he's on holiday. If we'd have beat Manchester City, he'd have been there on his phone saying, I'm hearing it's guitar. But because we lost, radio silence. But if Amarine had been in charge, I reckon we'd have got a load of more stuff or Ten Hag. And, you know, this is my problem.
35:50Like, it's not negative to call out standards that are not good enough. If we'd won yesterday, we'd be sat here being positive. but you don't always get that. And if we win against Fulham, oh, we're back again. But the reality is this season's probably going to... Well, I think it's going to be a rollercoaster. I say it's going to be a rollercoaster, but the point of a rollercoaster is there's meant to be some big ups as well. And at the moment, I don't really count beating Ipswich as a big up. I mean, you know, I don't think we can take Ipswich as a positive. It's Ipswich. Like, are we saying now that beating Ipswich which at Old Trafford shouldn't be taken for granted.
36:28So look, I think it will be a rollercoaster of up and down. And I think we are in a straight fight with Chelsea, Liverpool, ourselves, and maybe, I don't know, maybe a Newcastle, maybe even a Spurs, to be honest. I mean, as crap as Spurs are, it's not like four, I mean, they're only three points behind us. So I think that, and it probably won't be Newcastle because Leeds have eaten them now. But look, that's probably a good result for us as well. James says, I'm astounded by the strategy to rebuild one part of the team per summer. What happens when your budget only covers two fullbacks and a centre-back and Rashford, Xerxi and Bruno potentially all leaves, says James.
37:06Well, look, I think this is where I sympathise with Carrick as well. He will take the job no matter what. But on Thursday night against Sabah,
37:20Xerxi is Gordon Ramsay FC. He's cooking. and then but that's Sabah you know probably going to be the worst team in the Champions League you bring him on against Man City and he's the invisible man and that's what Carrick's got behind him you know it's not it's not you know whatever you think about the tactics and the suitability for the role I saw something very very good today actually and it's very very true So the board can be absolutely incompetent and Michael Carrick can be out of his depth. Both things can be correct. But it's what you choose to do with those opinions if you believe in them.
38:01Now, I don't think Carrick's out of his depth. I just think he's lost, which some people would say is out of his depth. But he's not out of his depth because he got us to third place, which I think was incredible. but he looks very confused and I think that I do feel sorry for him in that sense because an inexperienced coach against major budgets that other clubs have used this summer
38:32I think he's being found out you know Noel Gallagher criticised United's board stating if Berada was good enough City wouldn't have let him go sad state of affairs at our dead club says Shea I don't know Omar Barada. I don't know whether he's a nice guy or not. I don't know whether he's good at his job or not. But what I've said about Omar Barada, our CEO, is when you're coming out with comments about if we don't win the league this year, next year, it makes you look really incompetent. And also, from a Sir Jim Radcliffe and Ineos point of view, if I'm looking for a CEO to come in and rebuild Manchester United, but I don't want to spend much money, I'd probably be looking at clubs around Europe like Leipzig, you know, for an example, or maybe even a Brighton.
39:18I'd be looking at clubs that have done really well without big budgets. You don't go and get a CEO from a club that's in court for potentially funneling money in to buy loads of players. And that always defied logic to me. Why did we even bring in Manchester City's COO to be our CEO? Because the success of Man City is a pipeline of money, literally. So how does bringing in a guy who's been successful with loads, with endless funds work at a club where you don't get endless funds? I always thought that was a strange appointment. I think that what you want is somebody that's got huge experience of running a football club with some financial restriction.
40:05And Barada didn't have that. So I always find that baffling. And then the director of football, Wilcox, very inexperienced, only had a job at Southampton and a youth job at Manchester City. Again, if you're working on a limited budget, you want a sporting director who has a track record of knowing the entire world market and being able to pull rabbits out of the hat. Again, you'd probably be looking at someone from Brighton or RB Leipzig or Dortmund or something like that. So again, I just think this best in class thing was naive. But then you look at Nice and you go, well, I'm not bloody surprised.
40:43But again, they just don't seem to have figured it out that we're not going to spend a lot of money, but let's go and get a CEO from a rich club. Those who think Bruno will save us forget he has gotten three managers sacked. Great player at his best, but awful leader, says Marlo. It may yet, as sad as it sounds, says Baby Hot Rod. Look, I think with Bruno, it's fashionable to pick on Bruno when we're not winning. And then when he gets player of the year and breaks the assist record, those statements look really stupid. The reality about Bruno for me is twofold. One, there is no doubt he is a top, top player and he's never been given the players around him at Manchester United.
41:28And two, he's 32. It might be too early to say this, but he does a lot of running. He's a lot about fitness and he's a lot about physicality and he's a lot about intensity. What happens if he slows down? We're in the shit, basically. So the worrying thing for me is I've seen in the last couple of games, Bruno Fernandes with a lot of space. missing, you know, putting in bad crosses or missing passes. We never turn it around when things go south. The season is officially over unless Carrick is sacked. A new interim is hired to Sully. Look, I've got to say, that's not where I'm at. I will say this very, very clearly.
42:18You can give me any manager and they may do a slightly better job, but ultimately I think they fail. I don't think this is a manager thing. I don't. I think you could have a better manager. You could have a worse manager. But I still think that you're not going to succeed. Look, you bring in Luis Enrique and then you give him a transfer spend that's less than Ipswich. He's going to struggle. Same with Pep Guardiola. So I think that these things are... You've got to be very careful about blaming Carrick exclusively, I would say. United is the only team without plan B in a game. says Maud before the season started I said we've been losing a minimum of six points in the opening four games for the past five seasons we still haven't learned says Nacho King well apparently we've matched Amirim's start to last season four points from 12 and that was a horrific start to the season I love this question from Streets Will Never and I'd love for people to get in the comments and let me know what's your honest prediction now for the season so what did I predict oh god have you seen that clip of me Have you seen that clip of me going, I think we'll get 12 points from the first four.
43:29Two newly promoted teams should be straightforward. Everton don't score goals I fancy as to win there. Manchester derby, nine points from nine. I forgot fucking four. But look, you know what? Ridicule me all you like. I think we should have got 12 points from 12. I do. What's my honest prediction for the season? I think I said third. You know, the sad thing is,
44:02and I'll get laughed at, if Liverpool and Chelsea continue how they are as a work in progress with defensive vulnerabilities, they will drop points as well. Like Liverpool have dropped points at home to Forest and Fulham. Chelsea have dropped points at home to Hull. if they are inconsistent, then we might still get third. We'll be miles off Arsenal and Man City, by the way, but we might get third. I don't think that's acceptable. I don't think third place and 20 points behind Man City and Arsenal is good. I think it's fucking embarrassing. And I don't think third place is good just because Chelsea and Liverpool and everyone else is shitter than us.
44:47But I do sort of look at it and think, look, Look, maybe I'm in denial, but I cannot comprehend a season. And look, I say no Europe. I actually mean no Champions League. I mean, the Europa League is a bit shit. I know we've been in it in the past, but since the new Champions League's come in, it's shit. I mean, there are shit teams in the Champions League. It's so big. So, I mean, we have to be in the top five. We have to be in the top five. And we may do that because other teams are shitter than us. To all United fans, me included, hyping a midfield rebuild on a budget. I hope we realise what an elite rebuild looks like.
45:27An ambitious board pays for Anderson or Enzo. What we paid for is three, says Samit. Well, look, is there any point? Look, I saw some of the Glazerites saying, we got Santos and Tillemans and Belaber for£30 million more than Man City got for Anderson. And I said it at the time and I'll say it again. But Anderson's better than all of those players. And if you put him in your starting lineup, I think if we had Anderson yesterday and Man City didn't, I think we'd have won the game. I think you get what you pay for. It's like saying, we didn't buy Wayne Rooney and we bought three OK strikers instead.
46:11Well, I think Wayne Rooney over his career will win you things. And it's all right saying, well, we bought three instead of one, but Santos isn't being used anyway. I just think you go and get the best you can get. I really do. I think you go and get the best you can get. And what we were bothered about is the price. The worst part was Maguire spending half a minute complaining to the referee when we only had five minutes extra time. Just get on with it and turn it around. I didn't notice that, to be honest. Carrick needs to go and get Nagelsmann. No ducking about, says Kiel. Gary Neville on his podcast after the game said Man United wanted Anderson, but he chose City over us.
46:48Nothing on the owners. Have a word with him, Marks, as Goldio. Yeah, but I don't dispute that. You see, this is what I would say to Gary. And I don't know what he said. Maybe he said it. Maybe he didn't. But I've heard other people say it. That's not an excuse. The fact that Elliot Anderson chose Man City over Man United isn't true because we didn't bid anyway. But imagine if we'd bid for Anderson and he chose Man City over us. That doesn't make me go, oh, it's OK. That makes me go, well, that's on the board. Why is he choosing Man City over Man United? Because he thinks they're better than us.
47:26Well, whose fault's that? I tell you what. 15 years ago, he'd have begged us rather than going to Man City.
47:37Berbatov signed for Man United. Man City had their money. He chose us because it's Manchester United. It wasn't that long ago that people would choose us over Man City because they'd just go, you're just about the money. Man United's about something more. So you can't just go there and go, well, we never... I mean, what's that? Imagine being in love with somebody, right? And they marry somebody else. Do you just go, well, I wasn't in love with them? You know, it's probably a bad analogy, but it's still true. My point is, people go, well, Elliot Anderson didn't want to come. Why didn't he want to come?
48:21Why didn't he want to come? I'd rather he did want to come and we didn't pay for him. The fact that he didn't want to come really exposes a bigger problem. We didn't want to pay for him anyway and he didn't want to come. Why didn't he want to come? Because Man United is not attractive anymore. Why is Man United not attractive anymore? Because what are the what these owners have done to this football club? And we have United fans going, well, he didn't want to come, stop moaning. And I'm like, oh, my God. This this is who we are. We're Manchester United. Players should want to come and play for Manchester United.
48:54The fact that you write it off so flippantly is scary. That's a major problem. them. You know, there's a big list of crimes that these owners have committed against this football club. But the fact that players choose other clubs over us now is a big one, in my opinion. Chris, thank you very much. Welcome to Members Club. Thank you very much for joining in, as always. And everybody who is watching live, you're legends. Has Carrick not been backed, impacted Bruno's, Chris? Look, I think some people might say this is a little bit harsh, but I do believe it
49:31in 2010 Wayne Rooney got absolute pelters for saying he wanted to leave because he didn't think Man United were ambitious I think if Rooney was here now and he did it he'd have a statue like I do think Bruno Fernandes has shown a lack of ambition I do honestly I do and maybe if I'd said this after the Ipswich game, people would go mad at me and maybe now's the perfect time to say it. But I think Bruno Fernandes should have looked at that transfer window and said, what the hell are you doing? I've just won the Premier League's assist record. We're third in the league. I'm 32. I'm not going to get any better.
50:17In fact, I'm probably going to start dropping off. This is probably my last two seasons to win the league and you give me a window that's less ambitious than Coventry. Fuck you. You know, seriously, you know, and again, I apologise for the swearing, but I would be kicking that door down and going, are you taking the piss? Are you literally taking the piss? That window is, I've sweat blood and tears for this club, especially last season. I've broken the assist record. You can't get more of a team player than a player that breaks the bloody Premier League assist record. And you deliver me this shit.
51:01I think that I don't know whether players do that anymore. I don't. I think that there was a time when you'd get knocked out of the Champions League semifinal and Roy Keane would do an interview on ITV saying that's what happens when you're not ambitious. He literally did do those interviews. There was a time when Rain Rooney was saying, you know, where's the ambition. If you're not going to show any, then I need to leave. But there was at that time, those characters were winning as titles. Maybe when you've got a team of players that don't win titles, you have a team of players that don't have ambition as well.
51:33Maybe it goes hand in hand. Maybe the winners that we used to have complain about lack of ambition from the board. Maybe the squad that we have that's not used to winning is just literally happy to just turn up and take the wage. I honestly think that Bruno Fernandes could have justifiably put a transfer request in. He could have done. If we're angry with that window as fans, and he is a footballer who's coming to the end of his career, who's just watched Portugal fuck up another major tournament, you come back from the disappointment of that World Cup and go, at least I've got my club career.
52:12And then you look at what Man United have done. you know justifiably he could have been smacking the door down saying i want to go i don't know i'm not pinning this on bruno at all i'm just saying like he would have had every right he would have had every reason to do it uh do you think the reaction to the red would be the same if foden wasn't english rashford was like the kid in the playground who doesn't pass the ball says ross mccray magician no i don't want to you know what ross um i think the red card was a red card um i don't think bruno's was a red uh i said it at the time i thought it was a yellow So I think Bruno did dive, but other clubs do it.
52:50We had an opportunity. We didn't take it. There's no point being angry at Bruno for getting a Man City player sent off just because we didn't beat Man City. If we'd have gone on and beat Man City 5-0, no one would have called Bruno a diver. So the frustration towards Bruno is because we didn't win the game. Let's get real. As for Rashford, I'll keep an open mind about Rashford, but I've got to be honest, I've said it so many times. I just find it really confusing. I just don't know what, every time I see him in the team, I'm sort of like, like somebody said yesterday, it's like he's on loan. It's a weird, weird situation.
53:27And I don't know what we're meant to be getting out of it. And hopefully it will work, but I don't know what we're meant to get out of it really. And he's trying too hard as well. He's trying too hard to go past two players and put it in the top corner. And maybe he will, but will he do it every week? I mean, this was always something that was levelled at Rashford. Fantastic player but you're never going to go past players every week and score goals. So what do we want him to be? What does he want to be? What do we want him to be? Because he's here to stay so what do we want him to be? What's the plan?
54:03And I think the big, big, big headline today and probably last week as well and probably next week and maybe all season and you can see it in the players is what are we this season? Last season when Carrick came in it was about getting into the top five or the top four or whatever it was. I don't know what this season is. I don't think anybody knows what this season is. I don't think Michael Carrick knows what this season is but you can't be like that as a football club especially not at Manchester United. Coventry is about finishing fourth from bottom and staying up. Same for Ipswich, same for Hull.
54:40Everton is probably about mid-table but if we can go higher we can Arsenal's about winning the league Man City's about winning the league honestly I think Chelsea and Liverpool is about top four
54:53but maybe Man United is about top four but it shouldn't be about top four when you finish third you're meant to go to the next level heartbroken at what they've done to our clubs as Davey I mean look what I will say is that the protests yesterday were fantastic the banner was fantastic I just wish I don't really want to again dwell on it but I genuinely do think the only way back for Manchester United is a reset the open heart surgery of the team like Ranić said but a reset of the club which means hitting the reset button on the debt hitting the reset button on the owners I mean is it ever going to happen but to me it's the most logical thing that needs to happen City game has really tested my loyalty to the club, says Fishcake.
55:42They lack any type of passion for the club or fans. I'd rather watch a team that loses but gives 110 % each week. Look, I think you're absolutely right. And apparently, Wilcox and Barada and Sir Jim and I don't know who else was there yesterday. But if we're watching these games and going, this is absolutely abysmal, what are they watching? I always have you ever done this if Sir Jim Madcliffe is a lifelong Man United fan what is he actually thinking how if I if I was Sir Jim Madcliffe and I own 25 % of the club I would not be there today in the boardroom going get in contact with Romano and tell him that Carrick remains the you know has the full support of the club and we believe he's going to be a success.
56:28I just wouldn't do that. I'd be saying to Barada and Wilcox, lads, what the fuck's going on? This is shit. What is going on? This is not acceptable. You know, I've been here two years. Amrim finished 15th. We've sacked Ten Hag. Amrim finished 15th. We've spent half a billion on players for Ten Hag and Amrim. We've sacked them. We don't know whether to go with Oli or Carrick. We go with Carrick. He gets us into third place. We have a shit summer transfer window and we're shit again. What are we doing? It's just not the behavioural types of a Manchester United fan. I just don't know what this board are doing.
57:03I really don't. I think they are clueless, in a sense.
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58:57But they seem to have this dangerous combination of clueless and ignorance and delusion. We're absolutely terrible, but everything's going to be okay. And it's not. Has Carrick not been impacted? Bruno, I've done that from Chris. I'd take Anderson over our three midfield signings as Jay Shaw. I completely get that we needed three midfielders this summer. But if you buy cheap, you buy twice. And look, there is still plenty of time and maybe you'll play against Brighton and play really, really well. But I'm already, and again, I've said what I said about Bruno. I've said what I've said about Rashford.
59:39I've said what I've said about other players. I'm already looking at Santos. And if somebody says to me, is Santos going to be a flop at Man United? I'm already going, possibly. Because Beléber's injured. We've only got three midfielders, and he still would rather put Bruno in the midfield. And he's done that twice. And people will say, well, he was trying to be more attacking. But we were getting dominated in that midfield. Maybe Santos, you know, putting Bruno in the midfield to be more attacking doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be more attacking. If you put Santos in the midfield and he starts winning the ball back and giving it to Mainu and Bruno higher up the pitch, you'd be more attacking.
1:00:22So he clearly doesn't fancy Santos. So we spent£50 million on a player that, realistically, did we sign Santos as a quick knee-jerk reaction because of the Edison medical? Because that happened really quickly after that. It was Edison, Edison, Edison, Edison, Edison, Edison, Edison, Edison, Edison, Edison, injury, Santos. It happened so quick after Edison. Did we literally knee jerk towards a player that Carrick didn't want? We'll find out. If we only signed Pulisic, if only we signed Pulisic, says Alex. Amrim starts, had hope. For example, the Arsenal game, we were really good. I don't see any hope with Carrick styles, says Ankit.
1:01:05Terry Bennett, thanks very much for your super chats. Well, we had a harder start. So this time last season with Amrim, we had four points from 12, but we played Arsenal at home where we should have won. We played Man City away and the other two games that we won and drew, I can't remember who it was. Answers in the chat. Amirim had good coaches. This new coaching staff is unqualified. Who is Woodgate? Evans was not playing not so long ago and we've got Southgate's number two as well. Yeah, Amos, whatever you think about Carrick and he is a risk, don't forget that the whole coaching staff is a bunch of unknowns as well.
1:01:38So the whole lot. It was Burnley and Fulham, Mark. Thank you. under Amrim we had highest XG oh we should have beat Fulham shouldn't we under Amrim Bruno missed a penalty and look we don't need to talk about Amrim but even those first four games of the season we beat Burnley we should have beat Fulham we missed a penalty we should have beat Arsenal and we lost to Man City at their place and I look at Amrim and I go well we should have beat Spurs we should have beat Forest we should have beat Wolves we should have beat Bournemouth there were so many should have shoulda, shoulda, shoulda, shoulda.
1:02:13But, you know, it's over now. Thank you, Stig. Under Amarin, we had the highest XG and the highest shots on targets per 90. It was high intensity football. Carrick took over and now we're back to being lazy. Look, I'll get loads of criticism for this, but I've said it from the start and I'll say it again. And, you know, maybe it's a challenge to Carrick and the players, but I think you like it. I think it looks exact. Carrick was the coach under Oli. and I think we play like Oli and some people say that's really lazy Wayne said it to me in the car but I stick by it I think we are like Oli I think everything's like Oli and I think honestly if you could get a player from Man United that was here under Oli and is here now and they had to tell the truth I think they would say it is quite similar to Oli I really do was it not Oli who used to let them go home from training when it wasn't dark and stuff.
1:03:11Because Ten Hag was the manager that came in afterwards and made them train when it got dark, didn't it? Eddie Howe will replace Carrick eventually, says Alex. And the same thing will happen again. Do you think Carrick realises he's sacking himself, says Ross? Well, is he? Is he sacking himself? Because remember, Amrim got sacked because he wanted to be sacked. Are these, will the board just stick with Carrick no matter what, if it gets really bad? Andre says the Carrick answer to why we didn't score was bad as he had no answer and just spoke about VAR Mojo says look I think going back to the game very very quickly yesterday when you play against 10 men at Old Trafford you should have about 15 shots on target I think we had two going into the last five minutes regardless of VAR that's ridiculous Radcliffe's best in class United's men's team 13th United's women's team 14th and last Nice 18th and last Luzon 12th and last they are a disease says Mojo there is literally and Simon Jordan said this when we got Ineos there is literally no pedigree in sport to make you think Ineos can turn Man United into a good team and he's right there's no pedigree there at all these are not experienced football people at all United's problem is structure not quality Bruno, Cunha and Mbermo occupy the same spaces start Sesco at 9 fix the spacing and the rest defense, says Pontier.
1:04:37David says, appreciate your honesty, Mark. Serious lack of chemistry with this team. You can have all the training clips you like, but inconsistency can't hide it. And new nonsense says, I said it back in May. This will be Oli version two. And Jared says, VAR is not an excuse for yesterday's pathetic performance against 10 men. Completely agree. And Mojo says, Sesco is another example of a player not being considered good enough by a manager who didn't sign him. We keep sacking managers. New ones don't use players signed previously. And then because they're unused, we can't sell them either, says Mojo.
1:05:10And Raven says, I fear that if we don't start winning, the writing was on the wall. Carrick sacked by Christmas and once again, we're in no man's land. I don't know what the solution is anymore, says Raven. You know what? I think what was... Hopefully we don't get to that point, but it's certainly a question and I think it's valid. Will Carrick last the season? The problem is, I don't honestly think that team is good enough that if Carrick gets it wrong, you'd say, bring Eddie Howe in and we'll get top four. That was probably true with every other manager we've sacked. But this time, I don't actually think that there is a manager that comes in.
1:05:53And I don't think it's all Carrick underperforming if he gets sacked. I'd worry that whoever came in would not be able to raise us to the level. What the board needs to do is make sure they get top five. Now, what it might be is stick with Carrick for the season and back him in January. But will they do that? But I don't know. I mean, look, is Conte available? Someone just said Conte in the chat. But and this is why I keep saying it. It's the hopelessness, isn't it? I don't look at that team anymore or that football club anymore and go, if you sack the manager and bring this manager in, everything's going to be OK.
1:06:36It's such a big turnaround now. Remember how I've said to you before, when you sack Van Gaal and you bring Mourinho in, there's a bit of shit from Moyes and there's a bit of shit from Van Gaal. and Mourinho walks to the back of the farm and there's the shit heap. And it's big, but it's not massive. And then when Oli comes in, there's still Moyes' shit, there's still Van Gaal's shit and now there's a bit of Mourinho's shit. And then when Ten Hag comes in, Oli's shit's there. And when Amrim comes in, you've got Ten Hag's shit, Oli's shit, Mourinho's shit, even Van Gaal's shit. And then Carrick comes in, he's got Amrim's shit.
1:07:09And this is the problem. For every manager you do it with, the pile of shit gets bigger and bigger. And what do you need to do with that shit? You need to get an external company to come in with a big, massive trailer and get rid of all that shit and clear the yard. That's never going to happen with this ownership. So I fear we're at the point where if we don't get ownership regime change, then we are terminally stuck here. I think the best we can hope for with this ownership is what Arsenal did under Wenger for 10 years, which is just get Champions League football and hope at some point they start spending money again.
1:07:54But at the moment, the plan is not to spend money. The cancer at the top is starting to rot to the core. £140 million for Cunha and Bermot last season. We would be lucky to get£30 for each now, says Nug. I fear that if we don't... You know what? It's a great point. And this was not mentioned on Stick to United, so I'll mention it here. Kunja and Mbermo, 130 million. They are not playing well. And we used to have a moderator called Paul Robinson, and I always remember it. He said, how long before a new signing becomes intoxicated with the poison of this football club? And it's so true. Every player, bar probably Bruno, comes into this club and Lemense as well, to be fair, so far.
1:08:39They come in with such hope. I mean, Cunha at Wolves and Embermo at Brentford were brilliant. We just don't see it. Keel says people attacking Cunha. He's out of position and Sesco benched for Rashford. Shouldn't be here and Bruno won't be dropped. No fitness in pre-season. Instead, it was ball works as big man Jack. only game Bruno played centre midfield was versus City when behind you don't bring Santos on at centre midfield to win a game drop Rashford and we'll be fine says the ambling soul that's not true mate I've already answered that question that's not true if you bring Santos on against a physical midfield like Enzo and Anderson he might bring you a bit of control which gets you the ball which you can use and get to your attackers we were losing the midfield battle with Bruno and Mane and also Bruno's definitely been back into the midfield this season I can't remember what game it was but he's definitely been back into a midfield too.
1:09:34It might have been Ipswich in the second half. He definitely put Bruno in the midfield. He definitely did. I can't remember what game it was. Someone in the chat was, we made a substitution and Bruno went into the midfield. I feel it was Ipswich. I think it was Ipswich. Owners are awful. Empty the Stratford end during games. Let them edit that out of the documentary. Says 23 Muggy. And Gary Neville, I've done that one as well. Hi, Mark. You missed Kirstie's super chat. Could you go back, says David. I'll have a look, mate. We'll keep falling down the barrel until new owners, says DP. I don't believe Carrick will last past Christmas, says Azor.
1:10:10We should stop going for matches like Lazio fans, says Gerry. And remember the reason why Amrin was hired was because the club was looking for a tactical manager. He was perceived to have that tactical standard. Sure, it didn't work, but the plan suddenly changed, says Mr Darkside. And Recon Guy says, I'm just sick of it. It's not hard at all to do the right thing. the only way this ever gets fixed is if we force these owners out we have got a game on Wednesday, yes Rossi will be previewing that at 8 o 'clock tomorrow night as well as having a chat as well, players who've played out of position since joining United, Dorgou Cunha, Mbermo, Bruno, Martinez, Jaro De La Mount, no vision on and off the pitch, says Santana and Bruno's not the only problem in controlling games, sure Maguire De Loewy's just I mean look, Stig's absolutely spot on when you look at the game yesterday how?
1:10:55Look, stick to United's out at 8am tomorrow. It's just an hour and 15 minutes of back and forth chat about the state of United. But one of the things I did say to Wayne was, how does Deleuze stay on the pitch for 90 minutes playing shit when you've got Masraoui on the bench who is fit and most people think are better? What message does that send to Masraoui when Deleu is stinking up the place and you still won't bring him on? And it's not like he'd used all his subs. So, I mean, look, there are so many things wrong at the moment and you could write a book on it. Daniel says ownership gave Carrick his P45 before even appointing him as they made his job impossible and screwed everyone over they wrote off the season before it began yesterday was embarrassing rest in peace Lewis my best wishes to his family remember to check that video out in the live chat as well Mark H says the start has been horrendous and whilst the board have made a right mess of the window Carrick looks strained already user 66 of the entire team is mid tier at best from front to back no pace nor quality no intensity Kirstino Personality says, go, go.
1:12:11Mark, you talk about light switch FC. I'm seeing a candle. Unfortunately, the matches are wet and no one has a lighter. Kirstie says, could you do a shout out for my son, David? I was trying to find it, Kirstie. Apologies for that. Could you do a shout out for my son, David? It's his 14th birthday today and he would love to have a game of FIFA with you one day. Thank you. Well, hopefully I will be back on FC 27. We'll have to wait and see you next week. But it's my pleasure to wish a happy birthday to David. Hope you're having a great day. Happy 14th birthday. And also from one Man United fan to another, hopefully you will have many years of happiness and enjoyment supporting this football club.
1:12:50Hopefully there's better times to come. Happy birthday to David. On one of your shows, I said after the Everton game that we won't win a game before the international break, lose to City and Brighton and draw to Fulham as Irish ghost. I mean, we've got to beat Fulham, haven't we? We've got to beat Fulham. VX says, I'm here to eat my words. I've done that one, haven't I? Right. That's enough from me tonight. I'm getting hot as well. Surprisingly hot in the UK tonight. Thank you so much for watching. I'm sure we'll pick up this tomorrow night as well. Don't forget tomorrow morning. Do not miss it.
1:13:23It's a brilliant show. It's a bit different to every other show because it's just a back and forth for an hour and 15 minutes, like I say. And it flew by. But stick to United's out at 8am. Don't forget to go, if you're on Spotify or you're on Apple Podcasts, please go and type in Stick to United now and give us a follow because there's a little bit of bonus stuff in the podcast tomorrow. It won't be on YouTube, but it's on the podcast. So make sure you're giving us a follow as well. Yeah, looking forward to it. Looking forward to it. Take care, everyone. Stay safe. Check out Stick to United tomorrow and have a great day, evening, whatever you're doing.
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