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1 Oct 2026 · 42m · 13 chapters

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No SACKINGS or TRANSFERS! Man City RELEGATION Changes Nothing!

In short

The episode is about Manchester United’s reaction to potential Manchester City relegation/penalties, and why the host argues United won’t exploit the resulting “fire sale” opportunities.

Key claims

United’s “no change” message means no big January moves and only a defense rebuild next summer; other clubs will buy City players cheaply, but United’s rigidity and unambitious ownership will miss the chance.

Notable examples

the host lists City attackers/midfielders (Haaland, Foden, Doku, Cherki, Semenyu, Doku, etc.) as likely to be available; argues rivals (Real Madrid/Barcelona) already target Haaland; cites Alex Scott as a missed “open goal” and says United should have pursued him earlier. Guest/guests: no specific guests are interviewed in the transcript; it mentions “Ben Jacobs on the show at 1” and references “Wayne” and “Mark Oldridge” in promo-style segments, but no guest backgrounds are provided.

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Chapters

1:10

Manchester City Situation Overview

Discussion on how Manchester City's situation affects Manchester United's plans.

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2:00

United's Plans Amid City's Troubles

Exploration of Manchester United's lack of change in strategy despite City's issues.

“Some people see what's about to happen to Manchester City as an opportunity.”
4:28

The Risk of Complacency at United

Critique on Manchester United's focus on internal matters while neglecting external opportunities.

“Next summer, we're going to rebuild the defence.”
6:30

Critique of Premier League Owners

Discussion on the financial motivations of Premier League owners and their response to Manchester City's actions.

“this will benefit the Glazers, this will benefit Ineos because they can all distract, oh, look at City, look at City whilst they continue to do their shit.”
11:20

Final Thoughts on City and United

Summation of thoughts on Manchester City's potential penalties and Manchester United's future strategy.

“Just because the Premier League owners wouldn't vote to expel Manchester City, it doesn't mean they won't get relegated.”
14:00

Pressure on Belaber: A New Signing's Challenges

The discussion centers around the pressure on Carlos Belaber as a new signing for Manchester United, emphasizing the expectations and comparisons with other players.

“So you can check that out if you remember.”
17:44

FFP Rules and Club Spend Dynamics

Analyzing how Financial Fair Play rules impact club spending, particularly Manchester United's position compared to rivals.

“And when I look at Bleyber, one thing I know is that he's not, he doesn't get on the ball much.”
20:32

Upcoming Podcast Promo and Casual Banter

A light-hearted exchange about a new podcast with Wayne and Mark, discussing potential topics and their dynamic.

“Daniel Derbyshire, thanks for being a member for 70 months.”
21:29

Signing Players from Rivals: A Controversial Topic

Debating the ethics and opportunities of signing players from rival clubs, specifically Manchester City, amidst their current challenges.

“I normally have my shake before you go live.”
25:38

Manchester City's Opportunity and United's Inaction

Discussing the potential fallout for Manchester City and how it presents opportunities for Manchester United, which may not be seized.

“Bend the knee and you can bend the knee, not anything else.”
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28:00

Man City Relegation: Opportunities for Manchester United

The discussion revolves around how Manchester United has failed to capitalize on Manchester City's relegation and the potential impact on their season.

“I mean, look, third place was an opportunity to invest and go for the title.”
34:10

Transfer Discussions: Alex Scott's Potential Move

The hosts discuss the potential transfer of Alex Scott, criticizing Manchester United's rigid transfer strategy and missed opportunities.

“This sort of annoyed me a little bit this morning, actually.”
42:01

Analysis of Manchester City's Spending

Explore the history and implications of Manchester City's financial activities.

“Manchester City spend so remember it was between 2009 and 2018 that this case has been run Between 2009 and 2018, they put£900 million into the club that they shouldn't have done.”
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1:59not change Man United's plan. Some people see what's about to happen to Manchester City as an opportunity. They've probably got 15 to 20 very good players. Man United won't be looking at them. It will be an opportunity to maybe be the team that challenges Arsenal. Man United won't increase their plans there. And also, it could be an opportunity to clear out the board and bring in some competence now that we know our board came in from City and City was a bit of a joke. Man United plan no changes there. So interesting stuff coming out about Manchester United this morning, that it's no change for Man United.

2:35And we'll discuss what that no change actually means. Also, we'll be talking a bit about Alex Scott. The moves are being made for him in January. Will Man United be one of those? The short answer is no. And a bit on Belaber as well. And a few other bits I want to talk about. Obviously, David Ornstein's been on the overlap this morning, so we can do the little Man City segment. although I must just say from a United point of view I do a lot of videos on That's Football about the Man City stuff I've got one dropping at about 11 o 'clock today we have to move on at some point like we can bring it in but all the content creators who are United content creators and all the United journalists and everything like that you can't just write about Man City every day for the next fucking six months like we are still a football club that is in a shit show and we need to start looking at our I mean do I do weave the Man City stuff into United's shit show but stop just talking about Man City, every bloody video or every bloody article.

3:27Like we are a shit show as a football club. It's what we do with this opportunity I think is really important. For example, if you look at Manchester City and you look at their midfield and attack, Elliot Anderson, Boadi, Enzo Fernandes, Cherky, Doku, Semenyu, Foden, Haaland, they're all good players. Most of them could end up leaving. Where are they going to go? Real Madrid and Barcelona are looking at Haaland already. But a lot of this is a fire sale.

4:00If you're playing football manager or you're playing FC 27 and you're doing career mode and you see, oh, look at that. That's a surprise. Aston Villa have got relegated. You don't just sit there and go, nothing changes there. You go, fucking hell, let's put an offer in for Mattson. Let's see if we can get McGinn cheap for a year or two. You know, this is a massive opportunity. And I tell you what, Man United's message is no change. Our plan is our plan. Next summer, we're going to rebuild the defence. I mean, this is all, this is like, you know, people are whacking on the door of Man United going, any comment on Manchester City?

4:38Any comment on, you know, does this change your plans? Because look, there's an opportunity there. You actually can spend money. Man City cheated, but Man United, you're not bound by these rules. Does this give you an opportunity to be ambitious now and take that opportunity? The noise coming out of United is no change. No change. We're happy with Carrick. We're happy with our squad. We're happy with our plan. We're happy with our summer transfer window. We're happy with the plan that next summer we'll look at the defence. We're happy that we, you know, that our priority is the stadium. Do not expect Manchester United to use this opportunity.

5:14And it is a big opportunity. The noise coming out of United it is no change. No change around the CEO, no change around the sporting director, no change around the manager, no change around the ambition, no regret about the summer transfer window, no panic about the start to the season, no big gestures in January, no big change in our summer policy next summer, which will be about the defence. It's plodding on regardless of opportunities around us, which maybe we shouldn't be surprised about. But what we should do is stop getting, Oh, look at City. You know, I would liken United's situation to this.

5:52We have a lot of fans at the moment who are looking out their bedroom window across the road at Man City and seeing it all fall apart and going, and then going, why is it warm behind me? Oh, I quite like that. Actually, it's getting very hot now. Oh, that's really hot. Anyway, I'll just keep looking at Man City's house falling down whilst your own house is on fire. Yeah. and yeah, that's basically what a lot of United fans are doing at the moment. They're reveling in Man City fall apart whilst, yeah, getting a hot back as their house burns down. We're in a shit show and I've said this a few times this week, this will benefit the Glazers, this will benefit Ineos because they can all distract, oh, look at City, look at City whilst they continue to do their shit.

6:39I look at Arsenal, I look at Liverpool, I look at Chelsea, Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, to name a few. And they'll be rubbing their hands together. They'll be going, we're ambitious. Man City are going to fall apart. This helps us in two ways. Players that we were looking at next summer that Man City might want, they can't get. And Man City's squad's got a lot of good players in it that we might be able to pick up one or two quite cheap. so you're telling me that Chelsea aren't going to be knocking on the door of Man City and saying you know we gave you Enzo last summer yeah you still owe us about 80 million pounds from that fee because it's been done in installments and you're about to lose a lot of money aren't you so we're going to be one of the accreditors um we'll take Elliot Anderson and Cherky yeah Liverpool knock on the door and go, you know, you want a Gakpo.

7:38Yeah, we want some NU. Used to play with Areola and we'll give you 40 million because let's be honest, you need the money. And this is what clubs will start doing. They will start getting in there very, very soon. And I just don't think United will. Well, they won't. United's stubbornness will be, we're building the defence next year. And then the year after that, we're probably ready to win the league. Oh, no, we're not. Oh, well, we might look at a striker in 2029. But, you know, stay on target. Yeah, OK, we know we're not in the... We're not in the bottom half of the table, but we're absolutely fine.

8:16I don't see United... Well, they're not. They won't change anything. They won't change anything. Chelsea don't have a transfer ban, Shub. If you're going to come here and talk shit, you will get shouted out. You're talking absolute shite.

8:30Driver says you're doing a great impression of not talking about City Yeah you're just not intelligent enough to realise we're talking about Man United And their lack of ambition and how what's going on in the world of football Is not going to change our ambition You're just not intelligent enough to understand that we're talking about United And how nothing external changes United's stubbornness That they're going to stay to the planet that they have Which is to be unambitious, try and build a stadium and stick with what we've got. And what we've got, quite simply, isn't good enough. So people should start projecting inward again on the mess that is Manchester United because we're still straddled with debt.

9:08We're still going to knock Old Trafford down. We're still going to stick with this shit squad. We're still going to be unambitious. We're still going to tell the whole world what our plans are next summer and then moan when the prices are too big. Yeah, I don't think anything's going to massively change, even though the opportunity in front of many clubs is massive in relation to what could happen to Manchester City. And also just to, I mean, I'm doing a video on that football later and I'm going to move on now. But there was a story this morning from, I think it was Rob Gorsett in Sky saying that there's not really much of an appetite from other Premier League owners to expel Manchester City from the Premier League.

9:51In fact, if it went to a vote, most people wouldn't vote to kick them out because of financial reasons. Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you are the voice and this is why you don't have one. Most Premier League football clubs are run by people who do not care about football or you. They care about money. So in the face of 17 years of cheating, they still wouldn't vote to cheat them out because of the potential financial loss to them. I mean, this is just incredible. Absolutely incredible. I mean, this is like finding out your love of your life that you've been married to for 17 years has been cheating incredibly behind your back.

10:32Not just, you know, went out one night, had a few too many to drink and did something as a mistake. This is like 900 times they've cheated on you and the whole world knows about it. It's horrific. And they've done it because they think you're an idiot. Right. And And you find out and you go, yeah, I'm not going to divorce you and we're going to stay together because I don't want to pay. I don't I really don't want to pay the solicitor fees. You know. Literally, literally, literally, you know, you find out your other half has had more men than the grand old Duke of York. And you're like, no, it's absolutely fine.

11:10It's fine. I don't want to pay the fees. how could an owner of a Premier League football club say I wouldn't vote to expel Manchester City from the Premier League because we might lose a bit of money ourselves where's your fucking morals this is why we need fan ownership in football this is why we need what they've got in the Bundesliga because I don't really give a shit about players earning 250 grand a week but look that's something separate I mean that's just incredible to me what I would say about that is though So it doesn't mean that a lot of people getting very, very excited about, angry about this this morning.

11:47Just because the Premier League owners wouldn't vote to expel Manchester City, it doesn't mean they won't get relegated. Expulsion is you're out. Kick them out. Relegation, they've got nothing to do with that. They can't, if the Premier League say we're giving them a 70 point deduction, it's got nothing to do with the Premier League owners. So expulsion is something very, very different. who's the grand old Duke of York says it's met well don't you know this song oh the grand old Duke of York he had 5 ,000 men he marched them up to the top of the hill and he marched them down again and when they were up they were up so it was very very nice joke but it is quite funny when you think about it they've had more men than the grand old Duke of York yeah but there we go let's go so where are we going to go next yeah look get your comments in as always.

12:40There's a lot of people saying stuff like more men than Bonnie Blue now, says Michael. Yeah, I like Grand Ole Duke of York. It's a little bit more classy than your example there. But this is why we love live content. Let me just get into some of your comments. I'm going to talk about, look, Belaber, Belaber, Belaber, Belaber. John James says, first super chat of the show. Oh, just before apologies for being a little bit late this morning um i was watching our new members video that drops at 10 o 'clock so if you are a member of the united stand i remember every thursday morning you get a bonus bit of content with me and wayne which is not an extra bit to stick to united you can get that on disney channel this is like completely different content so we've started doing uh goldbridge versus rooney or rooney versus goldbridge challenges you can if you're a member you can get your ideas in um we will be playing fc27 at some point i suspect wayne's trying to buy the game and practice at it because he's very very competitive fucking hell when they drop the pedal video anyway um we today did a bit of like an old school um technology class um we were given a task involving parachutes and eggs and um yeah that i was watching it this morning.

13:55I never thought it would be that interesting to watch. I was actually quite captivated, even though I was in it. And I still think I was robbed. So you can check that out if you remember. John James with our super chat, first super chat says, Belaber looks sharp. The new Casimiro is lean. If you know, you know. Yes. Well, look, this came out yesterday from some journalist that, you know, Belaber is looking really sharp in training. He's putting in extra sessions. Look, on the one hand, I'm so tired of this shit. Why do Man United do it? Paid footballer is putting in extra sessions to catch up with everybody else because he missed the pre-season.

14:38Well, hold a fucking disco. I mean, this is the sort of shit that United PR for a decade, right? Oh, they get there five minutes early. So what? You're a paid footballer living the dream, right? You should be putting extra sessions in. You should be working hard in training. Why would we have a disco, right? So I agree with your comment there about lean and all that bollocks because we've been down that road before. however in relation to Belaber I've said this before and I'll say it again I'd be of interest to know what your thoughts are if Belaber isn't like amazing our season's in trouble and it would be incredible to put pressure on one player but it's very clear that Tillemans is going to be okay and it's very clear that Santos could very well be a flop Carrick doesn't trust him we needed a midfield rebuild You mentioned Casemiro.

15:40Like, the loss of Casemiro is incredible. How many goals did he score in the Premier League last season? Was it nine or something like that? Incredible. I did that video last week when I was in Spain about Casemiro. Well worth a watch. Arguably, but behind Bruno, our most important player. And we didn't even replace him. It's criminal how we didn't replace him. Tillemans hasn't replaced him. Santos hasn't replaced him. So, Beléber is not only a new signing. there is no patience there is no time he has to fucking deliver and look no pressure on the lad because that's ridiculous that's the club for you and let's not forget Belaber was bought in the last couple of weeks of the transfer window he wasn't even option A, B, C or D this was I think because we couldn't get Louis Skelly so he's option E really when you think about all the other players we wanted so we're in this incredible position where I believe our season rests on the shoulders of Carlos Belaber who had a very mixed season at Brighton, wasn't our priority signing, hasn't had a pre-season.

16:44There's a lot of pressure on him. So that, welcome to Manchester United because I think if Balaba doesn't have a good season for us, we're going to struggle because that midfield's not good enough. It's a shame Santos isn't like FC 27. He's fucking brilliant. And maybe he is. I don't know why Carrick won't use him. But Balaba needs to be incredible. Incredible. He does. And I'm hopeful. I am hopeful. I think that when a player puts on a Man United shirt or a manager gets given the job, you do have to back them. I was very vocal against signing Balaba because I thought he was very poor last season for Brighton.

17:23But we need him to deliver. I'm looking forward to that Spurs game. I hope he's going to start because we just need him to have a good game. And I think he's enthusiastic. I was very impressed. I didn't know anything about Balaba other than what I saw on the pitch. But seeing some of his interviews at Brighton and that, I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful. But there's a lot of pressure on him. There is a lot of pressure on him. And when I look at Bleyber, one thing I know is that he's not, he doesn't get on the ball much. Like his passes per 90 compared to most midfielders is really low. Like he's around 30 passes per 90 compared to people like, you know, Maynou and Casemiro who are up around 50.

18:01So it's a tough job for him. But I suppose the positive is he's coming into a team that's been so lacklustre. If he can just come in and do OK, he's going to stand out and look brilliant. So I'm hopeful on Belaber, but it's tough. It's a tough ask to throw a player in like that. Dama says, I like what you said about how the FFP rules have benefited our owners by keeping the smaller clubs like City at bay. I always had that thought in my head, but articulate it. But you articulated it perfectly. Yes, Dommer, basically the current rules, I don't like the current FFP rules because basically you can only spend what matches your revenue.

18:44And your revenue, if you're Villa and Newcastle, will be low compared to Arsenal and Man United because Arsenal and Man United are historical big clubs with big fan bases and big grounds. And you will earn more naturally. so Man United and Arsenal will always be able to spend more than Everton and Newcastle and Villa because they've just got a bigger fan base and a bigger ground this would be great if we spent that money but we don't so it helps the Glazers you're basically getting a 20 point advantage every season just because you're a big club now Arsenal have used that advantage to build a super squad and they're going to win the league again this year probably the Glazers don't spend money.

19:27So they sit in this position of power where we're never really going to fall off. We're always going to be around fifth place and they don't need to spend much money. So they benefit from it. If you remove that rule and said each year an owner can put an extra£100 million in, very quickly the Ebbertons and the Newcastles and the Villas would put that extra£100 million in and go past us, which would mean the Glazers would have to put the£100 million in, which they wouldn't do because they've never put a pound in so then they'd have to sell so if they change these rules where owners can put a certain amount of money in then the glazers would be gone tomorrow they're protected by these rules basically they can spend nothing but be secure because no one can catch us up and i know we finished 15th once but leicester won the league once every now and again you will get you know a one-off but in grand scheme of things if they change the ffp rules to be fairer, the Glazers would be gone.

20:22So maybe that's something we should be pushing for as United fans because we don't benefit from these rules. Arsenal do. We don't because we don't spend. Thank you very much. Daniel Derbyshire, thanks for being a member for 70 months. Don't forget to check out the extra content. Kev says, don't you think... Sorry, I need to have a sip of my... Right, Wayne, what are we doing here today? Filming promo for a new podcast. Me and Mark Oldridge. What's the podcast called, Wayne? I don't know. What is it called? Oh, that was good. Wayne is a player. Exactly what Man United was all about. But I'm sure we're not going to agree on everything.

20:58What would you think about Mark if you were a current player? Probably think he's just... We'll be reacting to all the games. Do you do your own painting in your house? All the big stories. Just have my socks on and my underpants. Good. Hopefully no sackings. Yeah, hopefully. He's gone first on both of them. I think we will have debates. That's why I was saying you can go first. I did. On the volley. United. Oh, perfect. On the pitch, off the pitch. I've got a little goal in my garden. I'd have saved that, to be honest. Stay to you later. It's coming soon. I'm so thirsty this morning. I normally have my shake before you go live.

21:35People were saying it's disgusting. It tastes absolutely lovely.

21:42The Goldbridge protein shake. It's not a protein shake. I can tell you the ingredients if you're interested, but we'll move on. Don't you think Dortmund are also as guilty as Man City for the Haaland deal? They should also be punished, says Kev.

22:00Dortmund. I mean, there is a world where we never know the actual deal for Haaland.

22:14Essentially, he had a release clause of about£60 million. So I don't know how Dortmund are implicated because Dortmund would have got£60 million. And then there's a shitload of money that's gone elsewhere. I mean, people have, look, this is speculation, that people in the industry have said that that Haaland deal was double that. So Dortmund got their release clause and then there was another£60 million going somewhere. Now, who knows where that went? but I don't think Dortmund have done anything wrong at all. They would have just got their release clause. I mean, to be fair, he was probably a£100 million striker and they could only take the release clause.

22:57Why don't they get a point for every beach, says Zippy. That would put them potentially in League One. And Daniel Thompson says, Hi Mark and United Stand. Hope you're well. Soul crushing how unambitious our ownership is. It's why we never improve. They won't do this, but if they are rebuilding the defence, go get Gahey and O 'Reilly in January and then it helps out for the summer, says Daniel. would you tell i mean just very very quickly actually just just because i want to talk about scott and uh some other bits but would you let me run a poll on this would you sign city players simple would you it could be ellie anderson erling harland could be o'reilly could be donnarumma would you sign man city players or is that no it's city because i've got to be honest I think I'm very opposed to signing players from rivals like Liverpool.

23:51The rivalry so much that I couldn't have Virgil van Dijk playing at Man United. I'd find it very, very difficult. Having said that, we did get linked to Gerrard around the mid-noughties. And I got quite excited about it because he was such a good player. when we signed Van Persie from Arsenal, I was like, if he wants to come to Man United, Arsenal are the losers, not us. So, and other clubs have done it. Sol Campbell, Spurs to Arsenal, Ashley Cole, Arsenal to Chelsea. So it can happen. I 100 % would sign Man City players. I might not take Phil Foden because that's a little bit like he is very much Man City, isn't he?

24:40And I think that would be a difficult one to do. But Semenyu, Haaland, Doku, Cherky, Anderson, Buwadi, Enzo Fernandes, O 'Reilly, Gehi, Donnarumma. I would take all of these players. And the way I'd square it off is they cheated. the rivalry with Man City for me is the one that was pre-2009 and I'd have signed King Cladsey back in the 90s, brilliant player so I'd 100 % sign their players, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all what Man City have achieved doesn't mean anything so of course I would sign their players I mean, put it this way if they'd been found guilty in 2013 would you have took Aguero.

25:31I would. Your goal doesn't mean anything, mate. Pledge allegiance to Manchester United and it's fine. It's like a game of Game of Thrones, isn't it? Bend the knee and you can bend the knee, not anything else. Bend the knee. You know when Daenerys gets them with a big dragon and says, you either bend the knee and, you know, give your allegiance to me or it's Dracarys, which means burn baby burn yeah as long as they said I want to sign for Man United I mean I wouldn't sign them if they went I'm only signing because Man City have been relegated and I love Man City true blue I'd say piss off but if they wanted to come to Man United I'd sign them yeah 100 % this is what I mean it's an opportunity isn't it and I tell you what Man United won't take that opportunity because it involves spending money but I tell you what there'll be plenty of clubs that do Arsenal, Liverpool, Real Madrid, PSG Bayern Munich, it'll be a fire sale and all those clubs will strengthen, won't they Hi Mark Salutations from California I've been enjoying the United Stand and that's football wish everybody good manifestations and success says Necro, thank you very much hope you're doing very well and Constantine says I've seen a lot of garbage online saying City haven't gone through the full process irrefutable evidence to fight the guilty verdict seems they want to fight this to the grave.

26:54Meanwhile, are still top. Something needs to happen. I agree. I've got a video on that football coming out at about 11, mate, where I'm going to delve into that Constantine. But look, I am very much of the opinion that there is a distraction and we do need to self-project because what is likely to happen here is an opportunity. It's going to be an opportunity and Man United won't take it. so for all the excitement or interest or you know you know what's going to happen to man city bad things are going to happen to man city by the looks of it and that will be an opportunity in many different ways it's an opportunity to sue them and bring some money in it's an opportunity to move up the league as they move down it's an opportunity to bring better players in as they have a fire sale it's also an opportunity to bring better players in because they won't be going for them.

27:48There might be a centre-back next season that United want, maybe Schlotterbeck, etc., that Man City would go for that they can't now. So it's a world of opportunities. But the reality is I don't think Man United will take them because Man United will just sit back and do what... I mean, look, third place was an opportunity to invest and go for the title. We didn't take it. Man City being relegated is an opportunity to move up the league and and expand. I don't think we'll take that either. So what I'm saying is, for all the excitement and interest in Man City, the opportunity is there for Man United and they're not going to take it.

28:2481 % of you, 82 % of you, 81 % of you, it's moving around, would sign Man City players. Interested to know what the 19%, why they wouldn't. Let us know. Balaba was always priority option A. No, it wasn't, Kiel. Balaba, whose mentality crashed last season because of missed transfer, now has to come in with the pressure of saving Man United's season. It's a recipe for disaster, says Connie. And Red Devil says, do you think the next manager would just fail anyway with it, whether it's Conte, Nagelsmann, whatever, because the players are rubbish? I think there is a theory that it's impossible to succeed at Manchester United.

29:06I think that's quite possibly a fair theory as well. here's a question for you I can't run a poll on it because actually I can run a poll on it so 81 % of you would sign Man City players this one I've not heard yet I'm surprised it's not been done so we're going to be first on this get your clip get your clipping editor machines ready would you take Pep as manager

29:35if you had the power to replace Michael Carrick with Pep Guardiola tomorrow, would you take Pep Guardiola as manager? Now, for me, that should be a landslide yes. He's a much better coach. He's methodical. We'd play good football. Of course, Pep Guardiola is a very good coach. I wouldn't take him as manager of Man United tomorrow. No, I wouldn't. I really wouldn't. I think that, again, pure speculation, But I just don't like what's happened at Man City. And I genuinely think we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg. I think there's absolutely loads under the surface. And I'm not saying Pep's done anything, but I'm not saying he hasn't either.

30:23And also, I just think that, yeah, that for me would be a no. No, I wouldn't go anywhere near Pep Guardiola at the moment as a Manchester United manager. And it won't happen anyway, but I wouldn't. I'm not comfortable with it. I don't like what Man City have done. And I think as a player, you can probably distance yourself from it as long as you haven't got a load of money coming in from a different account. But as a manager, I just... You know what my problem is with Pep? As a fan, 10 years ago on this channel, we were talking about there's something dodgy going on there. As a manager of that football, look, I'm just a fan of Man United.

31:06As have many of you. Ten years ago, we were having conversations about there's something going wrong there. They literally cannot be doing that. They do not. There's no way they can be making that much money. Ten years ago, right? If you go into that club and be a manager, why are you not figuring that out? And why wouldn't you figure it out? Because if it all goes wrong, everything you achieve is in the mud. So if I'm Man City manager 10 years ago, I'm looking at that and I'm going, come on, come on. Like, what is it you've done? Nothing. OK, I ain't winning titles with you just because you're paying me good money because this is wrong.

31:47This is fucking clearly wrong. And even if you're telling me it's not wrong, it's clearly wrong. Like, it's obviously wrong. I just think. I'm not saying Pep's involved, but I also don't think he can say, oh, I didn't know anything. Everybody fucking knew. Everybody bloody knew something was going on. And for me, I wouldn't go anywhere near him, no.

32:12But I still go back with I don't think he would necessarily achieve anything at Man United anyway. um yeah uh let me talk to you about alex scott so

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34:10This sort of annoyed me a little bit this morning, actually. Unlike me to be annoyed. No. So basically it came out this morning. I think it was via the BBC sport page that here it is. Yeah, here it is. So Liverpool and Chelsea are interested in signing Alex Scott this January transfer window. Bournemouth will try and reject any offers in January, but could consider selling him towards the end of the season. Bournemouth are expected to demand around£80 million for Scott, who ultimately has wanted to join an English club since last summer. This just annoys me because, again, I think it's just the incompetence of Manchester United.

34:59Was there not a world where we didn't... we're not going to buy another midfielder because we've done our midfield. But I genuinely think Alex Scott was such an open goal for Manchester United. Again, another opportunity that we're now not going to be involved in that because we're going to go, well, we've sorted our midfield. It's the defence next. And look, I know we probably couldn't have got him this summer, but he's definitely going to be available next summer. and was there not a world where we could have just done something a little bit more intelligent to go, what I'm trying to say is, is last year it was the attack.

35:40This year it's the midfield. Next year it's the defence. It's just so rigid. And the problem with being rigid is that you miss out on opportunities. I don't know whether anyone else, oh God, we've had the grand old Duke of York and now we're going to have a drive to Cornwall. So I don't know whether any of you ever did this. And if you live in the States, it could be a drive from one place to another. But when I was younger, we used to go on holiday to Cornwall every now and again, which is right down on the south coast of England. And, you know, sometimes we'd get up at like five o 'clock in the morning to beat the traffic and try and get there for like 11 or whatever.

36:21Good full five hour drive. Now, if on that drive, the radio says there's huge delays on the M5 and you've not hit the M5 yet the logical person even in the old days without bloody Google Maps would get their AA road book out and find a different route but if your dad's really rigid and says no we're sticking to the route we know you're going to get stuck in fucking traffic for hours and hours you might not get there till tomorrow. Whereas you could have just veered off down an A road and, you know, might add an extra half an hour on, but you get there in good time. That's what I'm talking about when I talk about people who are rigid.

37:10They won't change their plan, but it has a massive flaw in it. If you stick to one route and you're not going to change it and it goes wrong, you're in trouble. United are too rigid in their transfer approach. Last year it was the attack, this year it's the midfield, next year it's the defence. The problem with that is we've bought Buleba, Santos and Tillemans who are not the dream midfield three, are they? Next summer or January, Alex Scott's available. By being rigid, we're now, well we can't buy Scott because we've already bought our midfielders who probably won't be good enough. Why are we not able to figure it out that maybe there was something we could have done this summer that leaves us the opportunity to go for an Alex Scott next summer.

37:55But we haven't. We've sorted the midfield now. But of course we haven't sorted the midfield because as they keep telling us, last year we sorted the attack, this year we sorted the midfield, next year we'll sort the defence. But do you want to talk about the year before the attack? Where you've sorted the defence? Masraoui, Yoro, De Ligt. You've already sorted the defence, but now two years later you've got to sort it again because you didn't sort it properly. And the attack, well, you've already sorted the attack with Kunja, Mberno and Sesko, but you haven't because actually we need a striker.

38:30So this rigidness pisses me off because Alex Scott was a very obvious player that United should have been looking at from February. But we've closed the door on midfielders now. We don't need midfielders. So everyone else will benefit from being less rigid than us. I don't think the Labour Tillemans and Santos is good enough I don't think it's good enough to say our midfield's sorted I also don't think Mbemo, Sesko and Kunja is good enough to go our attack is sorted I think the way you run a football club is you never close the door on anything because you never know if someone's going to get injured or suffer with form or be a flop so you can't run a football club on last year it was the attack, this year it's the midfield next year it's the defence next summer you might need an attacker.

39:20You might need another midfielder. And this is how big clubs run. But we're too bloody rigid. And we get caught out with it all the time.

39:30Good question coming in here, actually. Just going back to the Pep stuff. I thought somebody might ask this, so I will just cover it. Isn't what you're saying about Pep the same for the players that signed for City? Says Ashton. Well, look, it's interesting. Would you take Pep as our Man United manager? Yes, 51%, no, 49%. So look, by no means is my opinion, you know, the majority, and I'm comfortable with that. No, as I said to you, Ashton, I think as the manager of Manchester City for the last 10 years, you would expect a higher level of scrutiny and a higher level of question asking. If 10 years ago I knew what Man City was doing was dodgy, how the fucking hell didn't Pep know that?

40:15And why would you waste 10 years of your career somewhere where if it all goes tits up, your dynasty's in the mud? I just think this question is to be asked around Pep Guardiola. And I wouldn't want him as Man United manager when those questions are unanswered. I think there's genuine questions that need to be asked of him. And look, there might not be any evidence to link him to stuff, but there might be. So I just wouldn't go anywhere near him at the moment. I think it's too early to say that Pep is not tainted by what's happened to Manchester City. And I've heard people like Balagay and other people saying, oh, you know, Pep's not tainted by this.

40:50Only because you decide you don't want him to be tainted by it. As I said, and I've said it to so many people, 10 years ago, people were talking about Man City being dodgy. Pep Guardiola took the job and was happy to be paid to do that job for 10 years. And he now wants people to respect what he did in them 10 years. No, no. Naivety is not an excuse. it's not you should have known you were working somewhere dodgy and therefore everything you achieve there is dodgy I would 100 % 100 % take Pep would mean Brada and Wilcox would stay though but maybe Pep can show how to fix our club says Carl look what I do agree is that Pep Guardiola is on a completely different level to Michael Carrick and if that's all that matters to you then of course you would take Pep Guardiola I'm just saying I'm not sure it's the right time to be taking Pep as your manager but look I understand why people are saying it Pep would not win most of those titles if he didn't have an open checkbook the players will still have the same level of skill Pep would not well I saw I saw this here

42:01Manchester City spend so remember it was between 2009 and 2018 that this case has been run Between 2009 and 2018, they put£900 million into the club that they shouldn't have done. They spent£1.2 billion on players. And when you break it down, 2009-2010, it was Tevez, Calotore, Barry, Adebayor, people like that. 2010-11, it was Dzeko, Yaya Torre, Balotelli, David Silva, James Milner, Kolorov. 2011-12, Aguero, Nasri, cliche. 2012-13, Garcia, Nastasic, Rodwell, Sinclair, Mekon. That was a bit of a crap one. 2013-14, Fernandinho, Jovatic, Negrado, Navas. Obviously, the Bruin is in there as well. look they spent 1.2 billion on players in the period that they've been found guilty and 900 million went in they would just wouldn't have those players they wouldn't have those players would they i mean i don't think anybody needs that spelling out to them but they just wouldn't have those players um daniel thompson thanks for your super chat he says we should have got scott instead of santos but again they went with the cheap easy option instead of quality we will need to replace Tillemans in the next two seasons when we haven't even replaced Casemiro.

43:33Yeah, it's a good point, Daniel. Tillemans is 30 this season and he doesn't look particularly quick now. Look, I like Tillemans, but I can see him, you know, he has got to go up the levels. Now, I know a lot of Villa fans and they're like, you haven't seen the best of him yet. So I still hold out a lot of hope for Tillemans, But he is the sort of player that if he goes down the route of the first few weeks of the season, it won't take long for United fans to turn on him because it's the lack of mobility. You know, he's got to start playing well Tillemans very, very quickly because I don't even know if he'll be in the team.

44:10Personally, I'd go Manu and Balaba. I mean, that's the midfield two I want. Let me know. But I think Manu and Balaba, we need some intensity. We need some fitness. We need some speed in that midfield. That's the way I'd be looking to go, definitely. okay look thanks everybody for tuning in we've got Ben Jacobs on the show at one I'm very much looking forward to that because I think the implications around what's about to happen and Man United is going to be very interesting to see as I said I've got a video dropping on Mats Football at 11 we've also got our new members video that dropped me against Rooney today basically a technology class thank you everybody for watching stay safe and I will speak to you on the next one take care

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