SHAMBLES! Man United 2-2 Everton Goldbridge Match Reaction

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1:28Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stand. Manchester United 2, Everton 2. Get in the comments and tell me how to explain that game because I tell you what, it's shambolic. It's a shambles. You live and die on results when you play like that. If you win it 1-0 or 2-1, we're all sat here going, I don't care about the performance. I don't care about the vision. I don't care that we've been using that back four since Jurassic Park came out. We've won the game. But if you don't win, you get scrutinized because the whole point about performance, results and vision is if you're only about results and you don't get them, you're going to fall down on results, performance and vision.

2:06And ultimately, when you look at the stats and you look at the game, Everton had more shots, had more shots on target and had more corners. They were the better attacking side. We didn't do enough to win that game. And we might feel a little bit short change because they've scored a late winner, a late equaliser that feels like a winner. But ultimately, over 90 minutes, it's not good enough. And this is why you get those prats out there talking about the Glazers not spending much being a good idea. And all, you know, these negative people who've been negative all summer aren't real United fans.

2:41I think we are real United fans. We've got four points from nine against Hull, Ipswich and Everton. These are not three teams that are going to rock the world of the Premier League this season. In fact, they're all three of them going to be in the bottom quarter of the table this season. And we've taken four points from nine. It's a shit start to the season. And already we're playing the game of post-mortem. It's not good. Look, I want to be sat here going, oh, look, let's live in an alternative universe. Because somebody in the chat just said they fluked a draw. Calm down. How's about we fluke to fucking win, you moron?

3:21What did we do to win that game? Ball goes out to Embermo. He scores one of the goals of the season. If he doesn't score that goal and it's nil-nil, you're having the same conversation you're having now. And Cross goes into Sesco, who doesn't get started. We'd all be going, why isn't Sesco starting games? He's just got us out of jail. So you can't justify a Man United win without saying, well, it was only a moment from Embermo. Apart from that, we didn't deserve to win it. Or why isn't Sesco starting games when he's getting us out of jail? So this is not just some brilliant United performance that's been shot down by an Everton worldie.

3:55This is a draw that we nearly got out of jail by winning. We didn't do enough to win that game. You're having a bloody laugh if you think we did enough to win that game. The chances created by United were minimal. Minimal. And to be fair, if Jordan Pickford had longer arms, he probably would have saved that Sesco header. He probably would have done. But why is Sesco not starting games? I thought we'd won the game. And I would have said that if we'd won the game and I thought we were going to win the game, then with the Sesco goal, why is he not starting games of football? I mean, I think we can all universally agree that Kunja was bad today.

4:31This experiment of not having a focal point striker doesn't actually work, does it? But I'm watching this goal annoyed me. Watch Luke Shaw drift in and leave the winger again. It's weird. And I don't think Le Mens, I hadn't seen the Le Mens. Le Mens should do better. But Luke Shaw running in and leaving the winger is just wild. And he does it all the time. All the time, he runs in to tuck in and he shouldn't do it. Still, I think Le Mens should make the save, but he doesn't get the shot off if Luke Shaw stays in position. I think that we need to have a conversation about style of play. We're three games into this season.

5:10Michael Carrick is not a interim coach anymore. He's a manager that's had a full season in charge. Sorry, he's had a full transfer window, which was pathetic. And he's had three games against lower level teams. And we still don't have a style of play. We don't. Ipswich in the first half were as good as his last week. Hull beat us over 90 minutes and Everton have got a deserved draw. We haven't played well enough in these last few games. And you know, Pickford did nearly save that Sesco shot. I'm looking at it here now. But I think we need to have a conversation about it. It's interesting how we started the PRV on the United stand after every game, performance, results, vision.

5:51We're not getting the results that Carrick was getting last year anymore. He won here last year in a similar performance. We didn't play that well last year, but we got the 1-0 win. Well, we're not getting those results anymore. And we've got to ask, well, where's the vision? Where is the performance? Where is the style of play? The one positive from this game for me was down the left-hand side. I thought Luke Shaw and Rashford actually give us something identifiable. It goes to Rashford. If he's one-on-one, he'll take someone in and on and put a cross in. or Luke Shaw will overlap and we'll get a cross in.

6:25But there's not, Sesco's not there. Sesco's not there, is he? Well, he was for the Luke Shaw cross, but he wasn't on when Rashford came off. So he came on when Rashford came off. So apart from that, I don't see many positives. I still think we're a team that tries to defend and then concedes. We've conceded five goals in three games as well. Five goals in three games against Hull, Ipswich and Everton. Everton don't score many goals. Hull are newly promoted, so are Ipswich. We're conceding way too many goals. I don't think a back four works with Tillemans and Mainu in front of it. I don't think they've got the protection.

7:01And I also don't think Martinez and Maguire are quick enough to play centrally either. So I think there's a lot of space and I think you can get it, Man United. I really do. But we've conceded six goals, Mark. Did Ipswich score two? Yeah, you're right. I forgot. I thought it was 5-1. It was 5-2. So we're averaging two goals conceded every game. It's not good enough. Defensively, we're not good enough. Offensively, we're not good enough. We're not creating enough chances. And stylistically, I don't really know what it is. And I'll tell you what, I'll tell you something for free. If he was called Ruben Carrick or Michael Amerim, he'd be getting a very, very, very load of shit tonight.

7:42What is the style of play? What is it you're trying to do? How are you trying to build this United side? You know, why is Cunha playing? I can just imagine if this was Ten Hag or Amrim in charge, they'd be losing their shit about Cunha playing as a striker. You know, it would be, you know, why haven't they got a focal point striker? Sesco's got to start for Manchester United. Last season, Sesco won his games against Fulham, Everton. He got us the point against West Ham. I think he got a winner somewhere else. He literally helped Carrick get the job. And here we are starting another season and he's sitting on the bench.

8:18And he very nearly got him three points again. So whether we've drawn the game or won the game, Sesko needs to start up front. It's ridiculous that you've got Cunyar running around everywhere apart from being a striker and we're not creating chances. Cunyar might drop deep and do some little link-up plays, but it's on the halfway line. We haven't got a focal striker. Rashford and Invermo get it. They look up. There's no one there. You've got to start playing Sesco. You have to. You have to. Defensively, we're not good enough. It's not just about Luke Shaw. It's not just about the lack of pace with Martinez and Maguire.

8:53I thought Deleuze was crap again, by the way. I mean, you know what? Deleuze gets beaten way too much. Way, way too much. But this is the problem with a shit transfer window. Our defence is not very good and we've spent nothing on it because we're going to wait till next year. And I tell you what, Glazers, And I'll tell you what, Sir Jim, you can shove your next year right up the arse because this is what happens when you go into a season ill-prepared, but you start glazing yourself going, wow, we're going to spend a load of money next summer. What are they going to do next summer, everybody? Please tell me in the chat, what are they going to do next summer in nine months' time?

9:29They're going to spend money on the defence. Whoopie-doo, we're going to wait till next summer to spend money on a defence that's conceding two goals a game to Ipswich, Hull and Everton. What sort of season are we going to have then? If you're telling the world the defence is shit, but you're not going to fix it for nine months. We've got nine months of this shit. We've got nine months of this defence doing this. It's the biggest eye-opener of the opening weeks. Roy Keane said it. Gary Neville said it. You're saying it. This defence ain't fit for purpose. This defence was Ten Hag starting defence four fucking years ago.

10:04And it's our defence in 2026. It's a huge, huge, huge issue. And it's not good enough. And I'm sorry, I don't think United played well today. I really don't. I don't think we can sit here and feel hard done by. We didn't play well. But when you score two goals against Everton, you should win the game. You've got to win the game, especially, especially when you get a late winner from Sesco and you've got five minutes to see it out. We should be winning that game. We should be winning it. And we're not winning it because we can't defend. And people will say it's a great goal by Maitland-Niles. You've got to throw your body in front of that.

10:40Somebody has got to go, this is the last kick of the game. If I get the ball in my face, I'm going to get man of the match on player ratings. Someone's got to absolutely storm that down and block it. And they don't. And it's not good enough. We're not defending like our lives defend on it. And I think subjectively, we're really scrappy. We're a really scrappy footballing team. I don't actually think, in fairness, there's a lot of difference between what we've done this season and what we did last year. Many of us said this. Many of us said this. I think that you've got a situation at United where last season there was a lot of games where we didn't play well, but we won.

11:35and we've had a couple of games this season where we've not played well and we've drawn and lost.

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13:25And a lot of people said last season, how sustainable is it to keep winning when you play bad? And it isn't sustainable. It's what you call a new manager bounce. It's what many an interim's done. It's not sustainable to keep winning when you're playing badly. And that's what we're seeing at the moment. We're still playing the same as we did last season. And look, Bruno had a bad game today as well. You know, these things are problematic. Look, we have got a fan for him and I am doing the Arsenal game. So it's a bit of a shorter match reaction, but it's probably for the best because to be honest with you, I don't have rafts and rafts to stay.

14:03I want to do the player ratings, but I don't have loads to say because I've seen it all before. Where is the style of play? Where is the vision? And we don't get the result today. I think we're very similar to last season, we're just not getting the results. And that was always going to be the case. I don't really get what the plan was. My main issue is not Carrick. My main issue is not the players. My main issue is an absolutely shite transfer window where I saw these performances last year. We got away with it. We qualified for the Champions League and we should have said, we got away with it.

14:35Now let's invest in quality. And we haven't. We've gone, we've got away with it. Let's see if we can get away with it again and save some money. They fucked the transfer window. and now we're not getting the results we were last year with the same set of players. It was never sustainable and now it's hurting us and it's hurting us big time. And I tell you what, we better beat Man City because even if we beat Man City, seven points from 12 isn't great. But if we draw against City or lose to City, five or four from 12 is fucking awful. So we put ourselves in a very, very, very precarious position after three games.

15:09This is a bad start to the season. It's official. Right, let's do these player ratings. Mark every player out of 10, six being the average. I've just gone behind the screen there because Lemenz has gone hiding as well. So let me just refresh that. Okay. Okay, so look, I think Lemenz has got to be a five. On reflection, I don't think he should get done on that front post. And I like Lemenz, but I don't think he should get done on the front post. And I think that we have actually got to start scrutinising the defence a bit here because this is the Premier League. We're not playing well. When we score one or two goals away, we need the defence to do well.

15:52And I think Le Mendes probably should do better on the first goal, not the second goal. He can't do anything about that. Luke Shaw, for me, 6.5. He was going to be my man of the match, actually. He was going to be my man of the match. If we'd won the game, I would have given him man of the match. So it's a 6.5 from me. I thought he made some good blocks. He made some good runs. It was a good assist for Sesko. But I think, I mean, we don't know what happens if he doesn't wander into the middle. But if he doesn't wander into the middle, he's right up against their fullback, their winger, and they can't shoot.

16:23And he can't score. I don't think people realise how far away Luke Shaw runs away from that winger. So by the time the winger gets it, he's got time to shoot. And yes, Le Mende should save. But if Luke Shaw doesn't run in, he can't shoot. And if he doesn't shoot, maybe we win the game 1-0. So I've got to give him a markdown for that. 6.5. Look, Maguire, five for me. Five and five and five. And people are going to say, why are you giving low scores to defence? Because it's a problem collectively. I think what you've got to realise, and I'm giving Maguire, Deleu and Martinez a five. The reason I'm giving them a five is if anybody's ever played in a back four, it's not about an individual performance.

17:10It's about a collective. If you get a clean sheet, you get it collectively. If you're conceding two goals a game, you get it collectively. Organisation in front of you and together, we should be able to not concede two goals against Everton. So I'm not individualising it. I'm sharing it out. defensively, it is shit to concede two goals to Everton in the last 10 minutes of a game of football. The organisation needs to be a lot better. And people will say, oh, that's not fair. Martinez had a good game. Where's the organisation? Why are we not stepping up a little bit? Why are we inviting crosses?

17:43Why is nobody on the edge of the box? We're defending the six-yard box. We should be pushing up a little bit. It's like England against Argentina. Push the line up a little bit. Play the offside. Why invite the cross? And if you're going to invite the cross, push out afterwards. We don't push out quick enough on the second goal. Nobody's willing to break the fucking neck to block that shot. It's lethargic. And we're bad. We're defending badly at the moment. We're men defending badly. Bruno5 for me. It was poor from Bruno today. it can happen he's the best player in the league he's our best player but I don't do agenda I do fairness and Bruno today was poor it was a poor performance from Bruno Fernandes so I'll give him a five Tillemans I think was a six my only look Tillemans I think had a good game okay game the problem is and I think you've got to also blame Carrick for this why did he not bring Santos on?

18:46Why did he not bring Santos on with five or ten minutes to go? Why did he stick with Tillemans and Maynou when we were in the lead twice? Why not bring Santos on for fresh legs? A bit of, you know, a bit of... If I had Casemiro on the bench, I'd have brought him on for Tillemans. If I had Caicedo, I'd have brought him on for Tillemans. If I had Declan Rice, I'd have brought him on for Tillemans. So he did bring... Sorry, I've completely fucked up then. So he did bring Santos on. Well, Santos was shit then. It was a chaotic last 10 minutes, everybody. He brought Santos on for Manu. He brought Santos on after the George goal.

19:33Yeah, it wasn't quick enough. It wasn't quick enough. It wasn't quick enough for me, that. But look, I think Tillemans... Well, I'll take that back then. I still think he was a six. I thought Tillemans did quite well,

19:51but defensively is where you're going to see the problems with Tillemans. That's what I'm trying to say. In relation to Maynou, I mean,

20:02six, 6.5. I didn't have a problem with Maynou's performance when we were chasing, when we were in front. But when it goes defensive, Maynou and Tillemans is not going to work.

20:16Yeah, I don't really have a problem with Mayno and Tillemans. Until it becomes defensive, then you do need to get Santos on, which he did. But they can't be blamed really for the lack of fluidity in the final third, which we see. I actually think Rashford was probably man of the match. I would give him my man of the match. It was going to be Shaw, but I think Rashford sort of got out of Dodge, didn't he? Rashford went off on the 70th minute when it was 1-0. and he's got nothing to do with him in the last 10 minutes. So I think Rashford is probably my man of the match with a seven. I mean, seven is not amazing, but I just think his hands are clean.

20:55So I would say, look, it wasn't scintillating from Rashford. It was good. He got the ball. He took someone on. He got the ball. He passed it to Shaw. He got the ball. He gave it to Bruno. It was tidy. It was simple. It was straightforward. So I would give Rashford man of the match. Kunya was poor. I'll give him a four. I like Kunia, but I just... Part of it's because he's playing out of position, but I don't think it was a good performance. Embermo, I'd give him a 6.5. The goal was absolutely brilliant. The performance around it probably wasn't as good, but it was a brilliant, brilliant goal. Brilliant goal.

21:32And it's a shame it didn't win us the game. Masraoui, I don't know. I don't even know with this lot. Fives? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, Sesko can have a 6.5 for the goal. I've got to be quick here because I've got to go and do this watch along.

21:57Carrick, five for me. Yeah, I think Carrick's a five because there's no style of play. We haven't got a good result. We've got four points from nine and we had statistically the easiest start to the season. And whilst he's not been backed in the window and he hasn't been backed in the window, absolutely hasn't been backed in the window. I still think you'd expect to have more points than four from nine against Hull, Ipswich and Everton. So, yeah, I think it's poor. I think it's poor. Let's see who your man of the match is. Your man of the match is Marcus Rashford with 29 % of the vote. What are your thoughts about that?

22:40Marcus Rashford is man of the match with 29 % of the vote. In second place was Sesco with 27%. So it was slightly close. Luke Shaw actually came in with 13 % in third. So fair play to him for that. I am back with you at eight o 'clock. You've got the fan forum now. I'm also going to be on the Arsenal-Chelsea game. I will speak to you in a bit. Take care.

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