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1:43Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands. Welcome to the weekend. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news. Lots to get into, as always, on the United Stand 10 o 'clock show. Jason Wilcox backing Michael Carrick. Also, new excuses around why Man United didn't spend in the summer. We're now using the Glazer debt as an excuse again. The cycle continues, doesn't it? Also want to talk about the confidence in this Manchester United side going into this Fulham game. We've got the preview coming up later on this evening, but issues. I mean, how are you feeling about United going forward when you think about it, right?

2:19we lost a late lead twice against Everton. That gets into your head defensively. We couldn't break down 10 men. That gets into your head defensively. And also we had a 2-0 lead and we lost 3-2. We are losing. We're not just losing games. We're not just dropping points. We're doing it in a way that psychologically messes you up. You know, we've had the lead twice at Everton and we blew it. We can't beat 10 men. We're 2-0 up and we lose 3-2. They're not just losses. they're not just draws. It's the way we're doing it. Psychologically, this team needs to not just win, but it needs to rebuild its confidence, certainly.

2:56But we delve into that as well. But actually, you know what? I want to start off with a quote. Now, it's not a quote that you'd expect me to talk about. And it's not a quote that's unique in any way, shape or form, because it's something that we've heard before. But Simon Jordan, you might know him from podcasts and talk sports and things like that. I just saw this and I thought, you know what? I completely agree with this, but sometimes you say something from somebody else and it can be more profound. I don't know whether Michael Carrick's been set up to fail. I think it's a difficult task for a manager of his capabilities.

3:32Carrick to me was, like I said about Solskjaer, an inevitable mistake. This is not a Man United fan. This is somebody that in the UK football industry is quite vocal and basically saying, I don't know whether he's been set up to fail. I just think it's a difficult job for somebody who's not up to it. It was an inevitable mistake. And that's somebody with a big voice in the football space in the UK saying, look, Michael Carrick is just not up to this job. So, look, things are starting to fall into place there. But there was an article this morning on The Athletic saying that Jason Wilcox wants stability and is backing Michael Carrick.

4:13So I want to delve into that first, but that was just a little bit of a precursor. Maynus in the England squad, by the way, that's just come out. And also something about Balaba. Apparently Balaba could be back for Fulham. We'll talk about that in a few minutes as well. But I know, I know who the person is in Man United who isn't totally convinced about Michael Carrick. Now, I would never put that out there. It's not my information. It will come out. You can probably guess it. But I know who it is. I suspected who it was anyway, but I know who it is. I don't think this is about to break anytime soon because United's message is that United aren't looking at other people.

4:56I know Ben Jacobs said yesterday that we're doing our due diligence and there's not universal backing for Carrick, but the Athletic have come out with their piece, lo and behold. What do they call it? What was that word we call about some of our journalists? Anyway, we'll leave that. But they've come out with, no, they're not looking at other managers at the moment and that Manchester United are, you know, backing Carrick. There are no indications United are drawing up contingencies on head coaches. People with knowledge of the situation say Carrick's position as it stands is secure. Naturally, results can dictate the future.

5:34Jason Wilcox, whose task it would be to make a call on this matter, is described as being an advocate for stability. So, look, I think the interesting thing for me there is that I know who it is who isn't convinced about Carrick, but the person who is and the person whose job it is to make a call on Carrick is Jason Wilcox, and he is backing Carrick. Now, I like this information. Credit Laurie Whitwell for this. I mean, he's probably stating the obvious, but he's put it there in black and white in an article that Jason Wilcox is the person who has to make the call on the manager. He also said in the same article that Jason Wilcox's role is to be close to training and support Carrick on coaching and recruitment.

6:23Wilcox has already overseen the dismissals of Ten Hag and Amrim since arriving in 2004. So look, what I like about this is that we're talking about sacking a manager and we know who's responsible for that, Jason Wilcox. But why are we not talking about sacking Jason Wilcox? I mean, his job description is literally assisting Carrick on coaching and recruitment. Our recruitment has been shit and our coaching is shit. So if he's responsible for coaching and recruitment and appointing and sacking managers, is he not shit at his job? I mean, I'm not like I'm not like I don't know the person. That's irrelevant.

7:11we're talking about the role of Jason Wilcox at Manchester United is to support Michael Carrick on coaching and recruitment of which we are terrible at both. We're one of the unfittest teams in the Premier League and we had one of the worst transfer windows. So that's coaching and recruitment. Terrible at both. Also, sacked and recruited Ten Haag and Amrim, didn't recruit Ten Haag, and recruited Carrick and is the guy in charge of keeping Carrick and is saying we're keeping Carrick. I mean, is the problem here not Carrick, but Wilcox? And this is what I mean about ownership. I remember a point when Amrin was doing badly and people were like, would you rather get new owners or a new manager?

7:58And I said, if you get a new owner, you'll get a new manager anyway. Never go for the easy target. Go for the person with the power. So if we sack Carrick and we keep Wilcox, the cycle continues. But if we sack Wilcox and bring in a competent director of football, they probably sack Carrick anyway. So if you don't like our board and you don't like our players, you don't replace the CEO, you replace the owner because they'll replace everything else anyway, if they're competent. So I'm sort of looking at this now and look, it's never nice to say sacks anybody. It's not, I can be sacked, you can be sacked, everybody can be sacked.

8:40It's not nice to be sacked. But I sort of look at it now and go, there's this little bit of movement to sack Carrick. I don't like it, but it's the reality of competitive sport. But surely something Man United have missed here is that even in this article, it's about whether Carrick's going to be sacked. And it's about Wilcox likes Carrick, he likes stability, so Carrick's safe for now. And I'm reading the article and I'm going, I don't class myself as a genius. But whilst I'm reading this about Wilcox is there to support Carrick on coaching and recruitment, and it's Wilcox's decision on whether Carrick stays or not, I'm reading it and I'm thinking, sack Wilcox.

9:24Sack him. Don't sack Carrick, sack Wilcox. He's the guy that needs to go. He's responsible for coaching. He's responsible for recruitment. he's responsible for sacking Ten Hag and Amrim and he's responsible for keeping Carrick like he's the that's the person that needs to go he is clearly not up to this job like he needs to go and yet here we are again waiting for his say so on what happens to Carrick I'm like that clearly is an issue at Manchester United so obviously the bigger picture is Michael Carrick is safe for now but let's not forget why he's safe let's not forget why he's here and he is not the person on that board or in that club who is uncertain on Carrick he is the person who's like Carrick's the guy let's stick with Carrick so look that's where we are on it but I just don't think it's as simple as I do agree with Simon Jordan by the way I do agree with that somebody said do you actually agree with Simon Jordan that Carrick's not up to the job I don't think he's up to the job as of now I don't think he's up to the job And if somebody thinks he is up to the job, then please tell us.

10:34I never thought he was up to the job. I never wanted him to get the job. I want him to do well in the job, but I don't think he's up to the job. He's got to prove that. I didn't want Carrick to get the job because I didn't think he was up to it. When he got the job, I said, I'll back him. that's a very different thing backing somebody and supporting them is not the same as thinking they're the right person for the job and hoping he's the right person for the job but if you remember when he got that job and somebody said do you think we can win a Premier League with Michael Carrick I said no I hope I'm wrong but no and surely that's the end game of any Man United manager is to be good enough to win as a title Mourinho was good enough to win as a title there was reasons he didn't I don't believe Michael Carrick is good enough to win as a title I hope to be proved wrong, but I don't believe he's the right guy.

11:21No, I don't think his CV is good enough. And it's not the sacking by Middlesbrough, it's the PRV. We had good results last season, but I didn't like the performances and I couldn't see where the vision is. I actually think this season it's even worse. At least I could see a style of play last year. I didn't like it, but I could see what it was all about. At the moment, I think we're an absolute mess. So why you'd appoint somebody like that, I don't know. But then in the same article, it's talking about things like this again. And this is where I get frustrated because it basically says that in the same article talking about Wilcox backing Carrick and blah, blah, blah, it says United are weighed down by the Glazer takeover from 2005, which burdened the club with£600 million of debt.

12:13The annual interest payment reached 37 million last summer, but is set to rise by 10 million due to this summer's refinancing deal. The context combined with expensive recruitment in recent years is why United took a modest approach this summer. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is my problem with the journalism around Man United. They take information from Man United and they type it and they put it out there. Journalism to me is the ability to take information, scrutinize it and put a bit of, you know, other. So basically, if I get a bit of information from Manchester United, I don't just type it and put it out.

12:51I take that information. I read it. I have my own thoughts and then I do other research and I build a bigger article. That's journalism. Right. We should start a channel. That's journalism. Journalism is not Man United have told me this. I'm just going to put it out. And I understand that journalists these days are basically conveyor belts, putting information out, but proper journalism is having the time to go, right, Man United have told me this, but this information tells me this. So let's build something together. Why are we finding out on September the 18th that the debt from the Glazers and expensive recruitment in recent years is why we didn't spend much money this summer?

13:34And if it is true, which it's not, I'll tell you why in a minute, but if it was true, why did they not tell us that in May? Why in May was the talk about breaking our British transfer record? Why in May was the talk about as being the biggest spenders. Why in May was the talk about ambition? And now in September, they're using glazer debts and expensive signings from the past as an excuse. To me, this just stinks of excuses. It stinks of treating your fans like morons again. And trust me, you've treated your fans like absolute shit this summer. So you might want to stop trying to treat them like idiots because I look at the glazer debt is why we haven't spent much money this summer.

14:16And I go, The Glazer debt's been there for 21 years. 21 years. We've spent money, big money, when we've not been in Europe. The Champions League gives you 100 million straight away. Using the Glazer debt as a reason not to spend money is absolute bullshit. And it's not an excuse. We've spent money comfortably with Glazer debt for many, many years. So that's not the reason you didn't spend money. And as for spending on expensive players in the past, stopping your spending now, why did you buy the club? Why did you buy the club if you can't spend money? Because I'm sort of sat here tonight, today, this morning going, so you're telling me as part of buying Man United, you get to look at everything.

15:06You get to look under the bonnet everywhere, right? So you're telling me Ineos spent£1.2 billion buying into Manchester United knowing they wouldn't be able to spend any money and they'd get a load of shit for it? I mean, it's sadistic and it's not true. The reason Man United didn't spend a lot of money in the summer is because they're run by a bunch of prats. They don't know what they're doing. The reason Man United didn't spend a lot of money in the summer is because Sir Jim Radcliffe decided he didn't want to pay big money. because he decided that he knew what the transfer market should be.

15:38The problem is everyone else thought it was something else and we lost. The reason Man United didn't spend a lot of money in the summer transfer window is we couldn't sell ice creams on a hot day. It's got nothing to do with the debt. It's got nothing to do with spending money in the past. We walked into the transfer window with a strategy that we didn't want to spend a lot of money and that we couldn't sell players either. That's why Marcus Rashford's playing on the wing for Manchester United. because we couldn't sell him for any money and he's on 350 grand a week. If we'd sold Marcus Rashford, we would have saved 15 million pounds a year in wages and probably pocketed 15 million pounds in a transfer fee.

16:17That is, across three years, 60 million quid. And it's 30 million straight away. And 30 million gets you easily a 70 million pound player with installments. so it's not the glazer debt why we didn't spend money it's because we're shit at selling and we're shit at everything um you can't just wheel out glazer debt on september the 18th as an excuse but this worries me because this is what united are doing now they're they're doing the scary thing they're doing the thing that you know when everybody knows somebody's made a mistake i don't know whether you've ever been in a position like this i remember when i worked in Dublin and I worked in an office and it's about 20 of us in this team.

17:04And there was a major fuck up basically. And it was nothing to do with the team. It was to do with senior management. A massive fuck up, right? And it happened on a Tuesday. And if they'd owned it on the Tuesday, the losses would have been that much and we could have turned it around. and what they did for two weeks was deny it and double down on it and it ended up costing that much and nearly caused massive problems. What we've got at United now is problems that if we owned up to them, the damage would be less. But because we haven't owned up to them and we're now doubling down on them, I think this is going to cause massive problems for us because it's the same with the manager.

17:51It's the same with everything. There's just this huge, sorry, it's this doubling down on your mistakes, isn't it? You know, clearly there's an issue with the coaching. Clearly there's an issue with the fitness. Clearly there's an issue with the transfer window. And instead of owning up and saying, I'm responsible, it's no, no, we're right. We're right. And it was somebody else's fault. And it's scary where this could go, to be honest. But look, fundamentally, looking at all of it, we're not in a very good position. We need to win on Sunday. And then God knows where the season is going to go, even if we do win.

18:36To me at the moment, and I've said this so many times, I'm not like let's sack Carrick or anything like that. I don't think many people are, to be fair. But where I am is it does feel like it's a case of when and not if. and that's a situation we are in all the time. And that's not being sat Carrick. That's not being Carrick out. But I definitely am not, I don't know about you, but I'm definitely not sat here going, this is going to be okay. I'm definitely not sat here going, oh, we'll have a laugh about this in a couple of years when we're winning the league. Oh, I just can't wait for a couple of years time when we're all sipping the champers going, remember that start to the season?

19:14No. If this was Sir Alex Ferguson and we'd had a bad start to the season, I'd be like, I don't like this start to the season, but I think he'll turn it around. But I'm not. I'm like, I'll be honest. I'm like, this feels like the long journey or the short journey or the beginning of the end. It feels like we're definitely on the pathway to change again. And that's why, to me, I am baffled in a non-shouty, ranty, swearing way. I'm baffled how, well, I'm not baffled because Nice have been destroyed by Ineos. Lausanne, a bottom of their league. The women's team has been destroyed by Ineos. I mean, these are all facts.

20:01So I'm not surprised. We literally don't have people in charge of the football club who are very good. But if we did, as I said, I would be looking at it and going, it's really obvious if I'm going to sack anybody where I need to go. I mean, as I said, I'm not necessarily comfortable saying this, but it is professional sport. And if you are in a business where somebody's not performing, you sack them. Well, not straight away, but you start that process. And to me, it's just absolutely obvious that if anybody needs to go, it's Wilcox. Because Laurie Whitwell today has done a very good paragraph on really focusing in on, and I don't know whether he's done it on purpose, but Jason Wilcox's job is to support Michael Carrick on the coaching and recruitment.

21:00Terrible. On both. Jason Wilcox has already sacked Ten Hag and Amerim. Terrible loss of money and decisions. Yeah. and Jason Wilcox is in charge of whether Michael Carrick stays or goes. We're Manchester United. I mean, how many more mistakes do you want? So I think that's where I'm sort of looking at it because why is it always the manager? Why does the manager always get replaced and the incompetent stays? We have the same with Woodward. We have the same with Murtagh and we have the same with Arnold. Why do we always keep the decision makers in place? And the manager's always the fall guy. And I don't think Michael Carrick probably will be the right guy.

21:45But imagine how easier his job would be if he had some confidence above him as well. So that's sort of where I am. I think the decision maker is incompetent. I don't actually know why he got the job either. Southampton's sporting director for one year becomes Man United's sporting director. I don't know. But look, they won't sack. Wilcox, they won't do that. He probably knows too much. Let me get into some of your comments. Before I do that, though, Balaba, it did... Look, this is weird to me. Tell me your thoughts on this. Well, in fact, I think it's pollable. Would you use Balaba against... Would you use Balaba versus Fulham?

22:37Now, before you start saying yes, listen to the evidence, right? Hasn't played any football in two months. Won't be match fit. Coming back from an injury. One game before an international break where he gets another three weeks of recovery. If you play him against Fulham, he can probably get called up for Camaroon in the international break. Not kicked a ball for Man United. Massive game for United. Do you throw Balaba into that game or do you wait until after the international break? It's not easy. It's not an easy choice, but apparently, according to that Athletic article, Belaber could be fit for Fulham on Sunday.

23:18But it even says Man United have got to be wary that he would then go for international duty with Cameroon. Flip side is, if he's fit and he can be on the bench, our midfield is so bad at the moment, why wouldn't you use him? and also if he's fit surely going on international duty will help him be fitter because if we don't use him against Fulham and we don't use him against Cameroon it's the same problem against Spurs isn't it that's his first minutes he's got no match sharpness so I'm not a fitness expert but part of me thinks if he's fit enough to be involved you've got to put him on the bench I can't be that cowardly to go, you're not being used so you don't get called up for international football.

24:09I mean, you're either fit or you're not. Now, if he's not fit and you could risk him for the bench, no. But if the data is he's fit, he's just not Matt Sharp, he's on the bench for me because you can get your Matt Sharpness on international duty as well. So that's where I would go with it. I think it just depends on whether he's fully fit. Well, we've got a press conference reaction at lunchtime. I'm sure he'll be asked about that. So I think it'll be an interesting press conference. But look, if it's a risk, if there's any elements of risk, no. Don't rush him back because you need to win a game of football.

24:42I mean, that could go wrong as well. Imagine if he comes on and makes a mistake and it's like, oh, my fucking hell, he's shit. So the labour is really important. Like I said this yesterday, the labour is so important. It has to be a success. You can't rush that. You can't rush that. Nectario says all these returning veterans feel like they can't be replaced and take their starting 11 spot for granted. There's no one around to challenge them. Their recent play shows they don't care enough and have zero grit What did you see? I don't know what your thoughts were on this actually I wonder if I can get the direct quote because I don't like calling people out without a direct quote.

25:25He did say it So Jamie Redknapp, after the game against Brighton, he said that, I mean, look, he said some stuff that I thought was quite good, to be fair. But he said that Brighton looked better coached. They had better patterns of play, even though they made changes. They looked a thoroughly good side. United threw on their insurance policy in Bruno and Maino. everyone thought they might be able to make an impact and it made it worse. Xerxes came on and couldn't pass the ball to his own teammates. And I mean, I thought, I thought, I've seen, I've seen people, I've seen what some people have said about Xerxes actually.

26:08And, you know, he's done that before, hasn't he? Last season, he came off the bench and looked like he wasn't interested. And I don't think it's a lot of lack of interest, but I mean, you know, it wasn't great. But he also called our centre-backs inept. This is the bit I wanted to ask you about. Lenny Yorreau and Aidan Heaven. He said, the experience of the two young centre-back, inexperience of the two young centre-back showed. I've no doubt the two of them will be on the phone to their agent asking why I'm not playing at the moment. That's why these kind of performances tonight. The pair of them were just inept in everything they did.

26:49Compare them to Vuscovic of Brighton and his level of aggression and the two from Man United were making bad decisions, putting their arm up and complaining when they don't get the ball. Brighton were serious about their business in defending. Those two were just poor and have to do better. I mean, look, we talk about Man United fans and what they've said about people like DeLoe and Xerxi. That's Jamie Redknapp, a Sky Sports pundit. You know, he's on Sky. He's on the Sundays on Monday Night Football. This is not somebody on TalkSport trying to make a living with controversy. And look, I worked for TalkSport for a few years with my Saturday night show.

27:30Their SP is literally what can we say that's controversial. When you're on Sky or BBC or CNN or whatever it is, you're in the mainstream box seat. You don't have to start saying stupid things or controversial things. I mean, it's great when they do. But I think to call Lenny Yoroh and Heaven inept was something I wanted to discuss. Because that's... I mean, inept might be a word some of you don't understand, but it basically means fucking shit. It does. And that is a mainstream respected pundit, whether you like Jamie Redknapp or not. So I don't have a problem with it. I've said stuff about players and you've disagreed with me.

28:23If somebody means it and they're not just doing it to be controversial and he did explain it, he said, look, you know, it wasn't just they're inept and let's move on. It was like, I'm sure they'll be talking to their agents wanting more game time and that's why they're not getting it. It was an inept performance and he compared it to Vuscovic. So I respect it. And again, it's just another kick in the nuts for Man United, isn't it? I mean, I don't think Maguire and Martinez are the answer because it's not long term. They're slow. Hopefully, De Ligt can come back. But Hevan and Jorow are meant to be our future.

29:00And it worries me. It worries me when I hear people saying they don't rate them. I don't think Heaven had a very good game but I don't think the way that Carrick's handled Heaven is very fair I think that when you've got a young player and they have a good game and then you leave them out for a month I don't think that helps their development and then when they come back in after a month they have a bad game and it doesn't help their development I think there was times where Aidan Heaven was playing really really well and he should have kept his space but Martinez took it with Leni Oro I don't think Leni Oro was as bad against Brighton I mean, I think the Vuscovic comparison is very, very good because Vuscovic is brilliant.

29:40And, you know, Yoro wasn't that good. But I don't think Yoro was inept. I actually thought Yoro did OK. But I think the big problem we've got, and I've not heard anybody say this, apart from when we've been talking, the big problem we've got is developing youth has never been about this player's really talented. Give them a chance. oh you did well but there's an experienced player you're not playing for a month or give them a chance you didn't do very well you shit get rid of them I'm old enough and some of you are old enough to know that developing young players isn't about giving them one game a month and then if they have a bad game fuck off developing young players is consistently having them involved in the team whether it's 20 minutes off the bench 45 minutes 90 minutes and then another 20 minutes.

30:31It's consistency. And it's also the patience to go, you made a mistake there, but we believe in you. We're going to stick with you. These things are not happening at Manchester United. It's not rocket science, right? So if you take, for example, David Beckham or Gary Neville or Nicky Butt or Paul Scholes, right? Their development wasn't 1995. You're in the team now. You can't win it with kids. Let's win it with kids. there was years before that where they were integrated in and there will have been mistakes and there will have been half an hour off the bench where you don't even notice them and then there would have been 60 minutes where they had a bad game and then there would have been 70 minutes where they had a good game and then there would be another 60 minutes where it's consistency it's consistency of involvement and minutes in the first team to make them feel that that's their role and they're up for it and it's also the patience that when they make mistakes you keep them involved there was a player called Paddy McNair for Manchester United who I thought looked quite good he had a bad 20 minutes against Southampton I think Van Gaal subbed him off after 25 minutes and we never heard of him again and his career was gone and I know he played lower league football but you know I think that we've fallen into this trap at Man United with our younger players and new signings to a certain extent I think Santos is in the same situation where if you don't deliver now you're not good enough but you need a manager that is good enough and in a comfortable position enough to be able to actually nurture and we're not nurturing Lenny Oro whether you think Lenny Oro is up to it or not and I had this conversation with somebody a few weeks ago they said oh whatever about Oro he won't be good enough and I said you're probably right Oro will probably end up being an expensive mistake and he will probably regret signing for Manchester United for his whole career and it will probably damage signing another Lenny Oro again because in the choice of Real Madrid or Man United, Lenny Oro chose Man United whether it was financial or not and his career has fell off a fucking cliff.

32:39So in the future, when we go for that player again, they'll look at Lenny Oro, their agent will look at Lenny Oro and they'll say we're not doing that. So we're stopping developing players and maybe that's why the JJs are looking to go, I don't know. But I said to that person, you might be right about Leni Jorre, but tell me where we've developed him. Tell me the games where we've consistently involved him. We've been patient with the mistakes and we've kept moving and moving, moving forward. We haven't. He's been in. He's been out for a month. He's been in. He's been out for a month. There's no consistency.

33:12Now, you compare that to what Brighton are doing with Voscovic, regularly playing games of football. You compare that to what Liverpool are doing with Jacquet, regularly playing football. We're not developing. We're not developing. We're not developing talent at Man United. And that, to me, is why people like Leni Oro will probably end up being an expensive mistake. But it's also his mistake for signing for us.

33:41imagine big influencers like you and others decide not to watch the next home game and others didn't go to the stadium to watch complete blackout hopes I don't agree with that I don't agree with that and I think when people tell people this is what they should be doing I think it irritates people I've seen the 58 on about this before they're told to empty the stadium one how are they going to do that and one what if they don't think that's the right thing to do I've seen people criticising that that banner that the Red Army did because it wasn't big enough. But...

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35:32Again, what was the problem with what they did? You can always do more, but I don't actually think the banner not going into the ground works anyway. I think they're just statements of frustration from fans that have had enough. I don't think anybody thinks that that's going to make the Glazers sell. I mean, the Glazers are sort of hidden away now, aren't they? It's the gym running the club. What will remove the Ineos and Glazer problem for Manchester United is getting games cancelled, targeting sponsors. Statements of intent collectively are to the media that we have we don't recognise these as owners of Manchester United.

36:18you know official statements of we don't recognize these owners we've lost faith and we won't be putting faith back in them and we urge every man united fan to follow us um we'll keep supporting the team because we love the team but we don't you know but ultimately unless somebody step forwards to buy the club i don't i i said before if somebody steps forward and says i will pay to buy Manchester United. I'm not giving the Glazers 10 billion, but I'll give them five or six. And that's my final offer. And we know that there's somebody there offering a fair price and they're not going to go anywhere.

36:57That's when you get them out. You don't need someone to come in and give the Glazers what they want. You need someone to come in and say, look, I want Man United. I want to rebuild Man United. I'm willing to pay 6 billion or 5 billion, but I'm not giving them 10 because that extra four I want to put into clearing the debt and building the stadium. Oh my God, you've got this fan base by the balls, literally. No, you wouldn't want the fans by the balls. You've got the fans in your hands, not your balls. You want the Glazer balls in your hands to twist them. But anyway, let's stop talking about balls.

37:32We're not sponsored by Manescape today. But my point is, the Glazers apparently want 10 billion, right? If a buyer came forward and said, I love Man United, I'm clearing the debt. I'm going to spend, I'm going to make Man United great again. Man United's only worth 5 billion. I'll give them 5.5 billion. I'm not giving them 10 because the rest of the money is going on clearing their debt and investing into Man United. well imagine what we would do today if news broke that Mr A or Mrs B want to sign want to buy Man Unite for five and a half billion the Glazers won't sell but they want it and they've got another four billion to invest in the club well that's where you ring up the 58 you ring up the Red Army you ring up Must you bring up us and all everybody else and you say look we need your help we will buy the club tomorrow but they won't sell we need your help and at that point that's where you empty the stadium.

38:31At that point, that's where you target sponsors. At that point, that's where you do all the things that some of you want to happen and force them out collectively. And that's when people who don't do that, you go, you're a glazer. You're a glazer. You are not helping us get them out. But you've got to have the person who wants to buy the club. And we don't have that. We don't have that. We need somebody who wants to buy the club. And then I think you could force them out with all the things that people want. But emptying the stadium or having games cancelled or targeting sponsors when there's no viable option, I don't see how that works.

39:13There needs to be a buyer. We've got a super chat here from Big Sir Jim Ladpliffe. Mark, Manchester United may have a lot of bottlenecks, but one thing about me is I never bottleneck. Okay. Nectario done that one. he's ready for the job he must step up training intensity to build fitness and spur internal competition for starting points driving that rivalry keeps players says Nectario I mean look I got told by somebody a couple of days ago that the way Carrick has treated Rashford makes him look weak and I said why? and they said it wasn't Rooney I've just realised as soon as I said that I know people are going to say it's Rooney it's not Rooney it was a journalist and they said the way that Carrick has dealt with Rashford makes him look weak.

39:59Rashford had left Manchester United, wanted to go to Barcelona. Man United wanted to sell him to Barcelona. That falls through because nobody wants to do the deal anymore and he's straight into the team and Kunja's moved out. That's nepotism, that's favouritism and it loses your respect in the dressing room and it makes him look weak. And you're right, Nectario. Where is the competition for places when the manager is using preferential treatment? That's not Rashford's fault again. I'm not blaming Rashford. I'm saying like Carrick has basically shat on Kunia, who had a good season for his last year and helped us get to third place.

40:40Is there genuine competition in that team or are favourites getting picked? And we were just talking about centre-backs there. Deleuwe playing 180 minutes in the last two games when he's been shit. Masraoui only played on Wednesday because there was no left back. So favoritism exists in that team. You've got Rashford playing off the left every week. You've got Deleuwe playing at right back every week. You know, there is favoritism in that team. It's very reminiscent of Southgate. It's very reminiscent of Southgate to me. And it's strange how we have an assistant coach at Southgate as well. Hope you're well, Marks.

41:11It's Daniel Thompson. Wilcox was never up to the job, unfortunately, and his appointment set us further back. all the mistakes he's made along the way have made Carrick's job impossible. He needs to go, as do the owners. Well, it's the hypocrisy, Daniel, isn't it? It's the hypocrisy of best in class and then you don't recruit best in class and then you don't buy best. I mean, this best in class thing, all the recruitment we've done, players, staff, board members, who's best in class? Can anybody tell me? anybody, any acquisition that we've done that's best in class, whether it's director of football, CEO, players, managers, you know, we're meant to be best in class.

41:57And I don't actually think we've done it once out of about 30 acquisitions. I'm a bit surprised that Carrick is so naive and that he doesn't seem to have learned anything from what went wrong when he was Oli's assistant coach. I mean, that's a great point, Marlo. I mean, I even forget myself that Carrick was Oli's assistant. And he doesn't seem to have learned anything. I actually thought that was one of the positives when he came in, how much he will have learned from that three years under Oli. And also he was assistant to Mourinho for six months. People forget Carrick was Mourinho's assistant for four months until he got sacked.

42:33And then he was Oli's assistant for two and a half years until he got sacked. so Carrick had first row seats for what went wrong with Mourinho and what went wrong with Oli you'd think that would be incredible experience but not seen it yet Jim the self-made billionaire only just discovered debt affects spending brilliant excuse he might need to hire someone to help him with the lies says John Sully says how about we stop pretending and ask Carrick why he took the job knowing damn well he wasn't good enough isn't that dishonesty Wilcox has to go too I don't agree with you on that Sully I agree with you on the Wilcox assessment, but I don't agree with you on Carrick because I think at the end of the day, I've probably been offered things in my life that I didn't really think I was ready for.

43:22But it's an opportunity. So you take it and you back yourself. So I'm never going to blame people for backing themselves when an opportunity presents themselves, even if it might be a step too far.

43:35and sometimes you get those opportunities and you make sure you don't fail but sometimes you take those opportunities and you realise this is a bit big for me Ashworth was fired and he had less time than Wilcox sacking two managers and bad recruitment cost us millions how many bad decisions has Wilcox made that cost us Ineos are trying to cut costs the option should be obvious I do wonder Patrick why Dan Ashworth has never done that interview and I know people who know Dan Ashworth as well and I've asked that question and they're like, that's just Dan. He's quite a professional person and he won't want to, he's got another job now and he won't want to, there's no need for him to sort of spill the beans when he's got a different career elsewhere.

44:19But that would be a very interesting story. It would, but I don't think it'll ever come out because he's moved on. We haven't appointed the right manager since Jose, says Stephen. Have the owners done anything positive as of yet, says Ross Stevens. I think no manager we have is set up to fail at United. United have set themselves up to fail, says Average Angler.

44:45Arpen says Wilcox. Yes, I back Carrick, but not in the window. Standing in shit is stable, says Kiel Robinson. Wilcox has to go. He's done nothing but bring us down to Southampton level. Why are the fans the only smart people connected to United? Says Jim Bob. FC 27 today, Mark, will you be dipping in? I might do an FC 27 episode one career mode at five o 'clock. It's just whether I can get a few things done before that. But if not, I'll start next. I'm getting all emotional. If not, I'll start next Friday. I'm either starting it today or I'm going to start it next Friday. But keep your eyes peeled on my socials because it'll be, yeah, it'll be five o 'clock if I do it live.

45:26On your shows since the Everton game, I've predicted losses to City and Brighton and a draw with Fulham. Two for two so far. Carrick's gone by Christmas, says Irish Ghost. Ah, yes, the kiss of death. Remember Amrin was going to get three years, says USB Connection. Brian and Stuff says, name a single player other than Bruno that's come to United in the last decade that has improved their value or talent. Every player ruins their career, says Brian. Dino says, United's next five games out of seven are away from home. Do you think it could be a blessing in disguise for characters kickstart the season with big wins in Madrid and Italy and Stamford Bridge.

45:58I think we suit counterattacking football, Dino. So he might be onto something there. Yeah, look, I don't think we're just going to keep losing. And in many ways, keeping on losing speeds up the decision. You know, you either want to keep winning and everything gets good or you want to keep losing and you change it. What you don't want is that rollercoaster because it goes on. keep winning, everything gets better quicker. Keep losing, everything changes quicker. Up and down, things don't get better. Things don't get worse. But it goes on for longer. Hi, Mark. Long time watcher from Melbourne. Thank you very much, Jim.

46:37G'day, mate. Do you think Wilcox wants to keep Carrick in fear of his own job? Another sacking equals Wilcox questions of confidence from the board, says Scott Watt. Boom! That's the sound of the microphone banging on the floor because it got dropped. Absolutely. absolutely I think that this happens a lot in business you make a decision it's a big decision and if it goes wrong you lose your job

47:08Wilcox made a decision on Sen Haag it went wrong Wilcox made a decision on Amrim it went wrong if Carrick goes wrong it's on him three strikes and you're out so yeah I think you're right Scott this could be the third consecutive season where Man United start with one manager and finish with another. How are we ever supposed to build something like this? Disgusting, says MUFC lover. Yeah, but I don't really like stats like that because if Carrick's the wrong guy, he's got to go. You can't look at, oh my God, we can't do this again. You can't go, oh, it's the third year in a row we've started with one manager and sacked them.

47:38It doesn't matter. I said this yesterday. If it's the wrong guy, he's got to go quick. You can't just stick with him because you've sacked other managers. Because to be honest with you, if Carrick is really the wrong guy, I'd rather stick with Amrim or Ten Hag. And I'm not saying they're the answer, but I think with Ten Hag and Amrim, I had a better idea of what they were trying to do than with Carrick at the moment. So we cannot just keep a guy just because we've been sacking other managers. That to me is even more dangerous. Bulbas says, surely a journalist should catalogue the truth, not just pass on information given to them like Chinese whispers.

48:15There's no scrutiny anymore. It's called client journalism. basically you're not a journalist you're a client of wherever you're getting the information out and you just put it out without checking it only way to get them out is to go after their other businesses and their sponsors says Kiel, Green Team says the poor management, if you threaten people with the sack, you're not good enough and we're replacing you, nobody will give 100 % in them circumstances United Defence says Green Team McNair plays in the Premier League with Hull says Joe, I know but he could have been a Man United player, that's the point I'm making and, you know, I am right about that.

48:51Yaro or Heaven needed first team defender next to them, says Dan, and let's keep it simple and focused. Do you want to retain Carrick as manager? A simple yes, or you would be ideal, says Rory. No, that's not, that's, well, no, you're right. Simple question, would I sack Carrick now? No, no, it's too early. Do I think, simple question, do I think he will be successful at Man United? No. So why would you not sack him now? Because I'm not the CEO, I'm not the director of football, I'm not the owner, I'm just a football fan and I don't make that decision. So I would stick with Carrick for now without knowing what's going on in the club.

49:31But if you're telling me, you know, the players aren't happy, they will know a lot more than what we know. For all we know, everybody's really happy, They're really motivated. You know, they can't believe the start to the season. It's just strange. And, you know, everything's going to be okay. Well, let's carry on. If there's a load of stuff going on behind the scenes that we're not aware about, and we're just praying it's going to work, then, but we need somebody else lined up as well. So it's not a very political and useless answer, Asab. It's actually, you probably won't get this sort of answer from anybody else.

50:09Would I sack Carrick today? No. would I be looking at alternatives yes do I think Carrick's going to be successful in the long term no

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52:00Why the last 10 years our season start in October, says Dial. And they only care about the books for stadium investment, not football. So we'd probably only buy off back of sales, business, not football, absolute joke. Well, look, the question is as well, Boffman, we probably can't afford to sack Carrick. He's cheap. He's on very cheap wages compared to Amirim and Ten Hag. He's cheap. His staff are cheap. I don't think we could even afford to sack Carrick. Has anybody ever thought about that? Sacking him and recruiting somebody decent would cost a lot of money and somebody decent would also want decent investment.

52:33So the scariest thing is, is whether you think this will or won't work with Carrick, they're not, they can't afford it anyway. You can't afford to sack Carrick, bring a manager in on 10 million a year and then give him players. So you probably end up with a beggar anyway. And what I mean by a beggar is somebody who's absolutely desperate to take the job for their own career. We need somebody we're desperate to take for our club. We can't keep giving it to people who are desperate to take the job. And, you know, who's to say sacking Carrick doesn't lead to Southgate or Martinez or Eddie Howe, you know?

53:11All these. Thank you very much for that. OK. Look, as I've said to you many, many times before. Things can get worse. 65 % of you would take and use Belaber against Fulham let's see what Carrick has to say don't buy EA 27 it's worse than 26 says Joe I've been playing it mate it's alright I disagree with you on that I have the game already I played the beta I think it's alright I haven't started playing career mode yet but I'm okay with it I actually quite like the slower game level as well expect mid signings and no sales going forward the effects of a fallen giant who gave out huge contracts is in an inaccessible era says i'm joby well look let me let me just say this as well um there are some people in our fan base that are concerned that inios and the glazers might get away with it because things might start to get better and then we'll be back here in five years time why would you think things are going to get better right?

54:19A lot of people think the manager's not up to it and he's not going anywhere. So why would it get any better? A lot of people think the board ain't up to it and they're not going anywhere. So why would it get any better? A lot of people think the owners are incompetent and they're not going anywhere. So why would it get any better? We've just had a summer transfer window where we spent less than Coventry. Why will we spend any more next summer? We were in the Champions League already. We had that extra hundred million pounds. We still didn't spend very much. we couldn't sell anybody well we won't be able to sell anybody next year anyway so I don't think there is a silver lining to this I think this is us and I think this will continue so I don't see anything getting any better you've also got Marcus Rashford's back 29 next month Bruno Fernandes 32 Harry Maguire 34 Luke Shaw 31 Martinez and Delora approaching their 30th birthday these are leaders in the team they're not going anywhere either are they so I don't see an evolution at Manchester United I think that the rollercoaster will probably go where we win games and lose games but I don't see a trajectory anywhere I wish I did I don't so maybe at some point somebody with a brain goes this is only going to get worse we need to sell up that's my hope but we'll have to wait and see Would you take Nagelsmann?

55:47No No There is no point In bringing a manager in like Nagelsmann Or Conte or Tuchel Or Pochettino Who all would take the job I think now There is no point Taking them into Man United And having Wilcox as the director of football And Sir Jim Radcliffe and the Glazers in charge do I think those coaches are better than Carrick yes but they would be limited very very quickly the only change is regime change for me that's the only thing that makes us better we've got Carrick's press conference at lunchtime let's see what he's got to say I'm back with you at 7 o 'clock tonight because I'm doing Brentford Chelsea tonight I'm looking forward to that on That's Football take care everyone big weekend coming up stay safe and keep an eye out on my socials because I might be playing career mode at five o 'clock today on my YouTube.

56:44In fact, I probably will be. Let's just say I will be. So what is it? The Mark Goldbridge channel. I need to bloody log in. Yeah, we'll do a career mode at five o 'clock. I think we need a little bit of Goldbridge ball. I'll tell you what I'm going to do as well. I'm going to give myself a transfer ban. So I've got to start the season with the squad that Carrick's got. No cheating. I'm not going to bring in Lewis Hall and Osserman. First season until January. I have to use the squad that he's got. Take care everyone. Stay safe. I'll speak to you all in a bit.

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