Amorim's Turmoil, Water Slides Transfers & Musical Coaching

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1:13BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. The problem we've got now is who would want to take it, which is crazy to say that. I met a player at the time to get him to sign for Derby at the Atlantis Wards Park in Dubai. On top of the log flim. The jumper that I signed for Manchester United then was Cleans Cousins jumper. So yeah, it shows how prepared I was for it. When I signed up to do this podcast, I wasn't really expecting that it might turn into a form of therapy for two Manchester United fans, including, of course, a Manchester United great, Wayne Rooney. It's Thursday afternoon. Manchester United did, of course, lose to Grimsby last night in the EFL Cup.

1:58So I guess the first question is, how's everyone feeling, Wayne? It was difficult to watch, I think. I did feel there was a lot of positives in the Arsenal game, first game of the season. And then Fulham was a disappointment in the performance. and then to go to Grimsby and lose in the cup with a lot of the starting 11 involved in the game, the best players involved in the game. Just the way they lost, it was disheartening. There's something not right. I think that's clear. I think the man just said that after the game and I think that's clear for everyone to see that there's something not right there.

2:41No, I'm surprised Wayne's just not like completely just going all in on Everton now. Like that's it. Like just cutting ties with a club. Because honestly, I wouldn't blame anybody. Listen, you could talk about the tactics. You could talk about this, that and the third. But at the end of the day, none of the players on that pitch should be losing to a fourth division side. Like you should be going out there, 11 men. If you paid 70 million pounds for a striker, you shouldn't be having to tell him how to score a goal against Grimsby. and this is I don't know anybody that's in the Premier League should be beating lower league opposition like that yeah okay that can happen it can happen we lost to Crawley years back in the cup but the difference is you know everyone looking at that game they know it's a one-off yes so the issue now is we're seeing very similar performances similar results and it's it's getting to even though it's only three games into the season it's getting to a point now where you're like what is going on okay for those of you listening and watching at home we actually recorded this podcast on Wednesday but given what did happen at Grimsby on Wednesday night we thought we had to jump on and react to it all we've got some brilliant transfer stories coming up for you but let's just dive into it a little bit more we're going to try and keep it short and sweet but go on Kay what is concerning you the most because there's so many different aspects and ways we could go with this as Wayne's just mentioned well it's just everything that Wayne said and also the fact that you know it's August 28th and realistically we we can only win one competition now which is the FA Cup like that's that's the only competition we're still in I can't see us winning you're joking we'd be lucky to stay up at this rate but um it's it's concerning when you see your manager rocking back and forth on um what's it on the bench when the penalties are happening they're not even watching them and his comments after the match weren't instilling you with any sort of confidence that's the biggest concern the biggest concern is the manager saying that his words after the game were damning on the players and obviously being in a position where I've been in that dressing room if your manager comes out with them words there's something broken I think what we forget he's 40 he's a young manager and Manchester United is so different to where he's been before and you come in there's the media team the commercial team the fans the media it's completely different and there's a pressure with Manchester United which he will never have felt before and when you're not winning games that can start to get here and it looks like yesterday was a breaking point for him but do you think there was any truth in the things he was saying about the players because I was looking at some people some of the players sorry like Sesco star striker you brought him in for 70 million pounds and then he's taking a penalty like 10th yeah that's that's crazy he should be one or two really they're taking a penalty but I don't I've never known a player to go into a football pitch and not try or try and win the game for his teammates for the manager you know I've had I think it's well documented me and Alex Ferguson had a bit of a a fallout but I've gone that pitch and and give everything I've got for the team for for him you know that's for the fans so I don't think the players were inside maybe it was the a bit complacent maybe maybe they've gone there thinking oh it's a league two team which can happen you you think oh we'll just turn up and win the game that can happen and then before you know it the game's got away from you so it's it happens it'll happen again probably in the next round to someone else but just where Manchester United are at the minute it's it's hard to it's hard to to take really Do you know what one thing that's really annoying me is when you see that sort of attitude in a striker that to go 10th in a penalty shooter I'm like are you the right sort of player for Man United Whose decision is that?

6:57Is that on the player or is that on the manager? No that would be that's the player because a manager would never put a player up to go first or second if the player didn't want to take a penalty. So I think he clearly didn't want to take a penalty. So that will definitely be on the player. Yeah, it's strange to have a striker who doesn't want to take penalties. It's crazy. And maybe that shows you a bit of... And I hope not, but a bit of his character. I don't know, but if you're a forward, you should be wanting to take that penalty. No, as a fan, I'd want to see some sort of reaction. I'd want to see, Burnley for me, if I don't see the players coming out with a bit of fire, with a bit of like, you know, impetus to try and do well, then I don't know.

7:44I don't know what I can say about this club after that, because it's looking like we're on a downward spiral and nobody can sort of try and stop it. Yeah, but that's how it used to, like, when teams used to come to Old Stafford, that's what you'd say. you wouldn't even talk about tactics you'd say they'd just be relentless and outrun them outpower them you know and that's why we used to score so many late goals because the opposition were dead on their feet so for them not to do that every game especially at Old Trafford is crazy I think there's just a little bit too much rotation going on and players are getting a little bit lost and when they lose the ball there's massive gaps and spaces and it's exactly what it's a carry on from what happened last season and if it carries on like that then unfortunately I don't see how it moves forward.

8:35I was going to say what is the way forward for Ruben Amrit and what is the way forward for Manchester United? Is that the same thing? Because watching his post-match interview last night, I mean I've been the reporter in that situation many times and if he came out like that you're going wow this is incredible but he felt like he was talking himself into something and then talked himself out of something. And it feels like he was trying to send a message to his players, but was he also trying to tell the board something? It felt like it was all quite confused. Do you feel like, Kay, there is a way forward for Ruben Amarim and Manchester United long-term?

9:09Is this going to work out? The only way there's a way forward is if he wins games. And unfortunately, it doesn't look like he's winning games. His comments were, we'll look at the next game and then we'll sort it out in the international break. To me, that seems like he's saying, we'll sort out my exit. When you're doing an interview at the end of a game, you have to protect your players, whether you want to or not. And you can be honest with the players and have a goal with them in the dressing room, but you have to protect the players. Wayne was messaging me yesterday in the group saying, stay strong.

9:40And I was like, I was ripping my hair out. What is there left to stay strong about? I've been strong for ages now. It's one of those as well. We get rid of him and you're in the process of another rebuild. right and are you going to go for a manager that plays a similar system as him or are you going to go for a manager that plays a different system and it feels a bit like disjointed there doesn't seem to be any sort of continuity and who's really out there in a manager sorry in a manager market right now that you can bring in the problem we've got now is who would want to take it which is crazy to say that yeah do you know what I mean it's you know you've got one of the biggest clubs in the world and you you've probably got Man just sitting there thinking not now so it's it's how quick it's changed and listen I'm there a lot at the club with obviously my boys and want the club to succeed and be successful and I think it will get back no doubt about that it's too big a club not to but when you're in it in this moment it is very difficult to watch.

10:54I mean I did come in there and offer some perspective in the WhatsApp chat and say well could be worse, could be a Watford fan like me so yeah. Well yeah, who's your manager this week? Shut up, I haven't heard that joke before, I get it every other week from all my other mates. Anyway that's where we'll leave that, I'm sure we're going to talk about Manchester United a fair bit more on next week's show and the week after and the week after that but let's get on with the bulk of this week's show which is transfer themed and Wayne has had some brilliant stories for us. it's a busy old week isn't it I actually love the last week of the transfer window I particularly love this transfer window in general it's felt like we've had loads of drama um but we thought we could uh rewind the clock back and reminisce on a certain transfer one of the biggest in Manchester United's history some could say okay when Wayne Rooney signed for Manchester United oh yeah you're saying as if you kind of forgot it ever happened yeah no do you know do you know what was the funniest thing about that was it was sort of we it was rumored that it was happening anyway throughout the whole summer after the euros but um it was on deadline day that it randomly happened but i was glued to the tv that whole day just watching it and seeing like different footage and wayne going into um to united with his crutches on and stuff as well so it was just like every two minutes you're just like looking at waiting for another update it wasn't like now where you've got like 13 journalists reporting on like every aspect of it so it was like you tried to get everything you could but what was that actually like going through it Wayne?

12:25Do you know what I was quite chilled I was at the time there was a lot of press trying to follow me around and stuff so I was actually staying in Colleen's Uncle's in Liverpool with Colleen and the night before deadline day we sat in we had the Chinese a few glass of wine you really were chilled and then I actually had no clothes there so the jumper that I signed for Manchester United was Cleans Cousins jumper so so yeah it shows how prepared I was for it what we all want to know is what was on that Chinese order as well though Wayne I don't know it probably it probably will have been like salt and pepper chicken wings salt and pepper chips oh no No chips from a Chinese.

13:13I don't get it. Go to a chippy, go and get fish and chips if you want chips. Yeah, but they're not. They're Chinese chips. How come it got left so late though? It just rumbled on and I think, if I'm being honest, I think Alex Ferguson wanted to wait another year. And then Newcastle kept coming in and I would have went to Newcastle if United didn't sign me then. and then it got to the last day and Bill Kenwright wouldn't send the forms over and Bill obviously God rest him is very emotional and obviously I'm a local lad from Liverpool playing for Everton it was massive and he actually got on the phone put his mum on the phone to me when I was at Old Trafford then he got on the phone he was crying down the phone and we're literally like Bill please just send us there's one document he had to send over and eventually he did just in time okay we've digressed a bit I need to know more about this signing for Manchester United well I was still at Everton I was sat at home one night and watching Coronation Street so my house phone rings Wayne are you a Coronation Street fan?

14:28yeah I love Coronation yes okay we'll talk about that later so am I so my house phone rings so I answered it Paul Scholes no way I was like your house phone yes which is like was it Scolzi tell you mate he's like are you going to sign for this or what he was just sat there I was like what's going on here but yes so what did you say to him like yeah I don't know I'll speak to speak to the manager and that was it well time to have a conversation with Scolzi on the phone it'd be difficult anyway what was that day like though So you were at Colleen's cousin's house and then you just got a call saying they want to sign you, like, come in.

15:15Yeah, so I went to the training ground first and then Alex Ferguson drove me over to Old Trafford. Oh, so Alex came himself? Yeah, he drove me over to Old Trafford. So that was strange. Just you and him in the car chatting? Just, like, in the car. So that was weird. What do you talk about in that situation? I don't know. to be honest I was probably just a bit taken back to be honest Alex Ferguson and he was obviously the main reason I was signing for Manchester was because of him and then to be in the car on the way to the stadium was strange and then yeah it was a long day we just sat around all day I didn't even do a medical so I signed with a broken foot and actually didn't have time to do a full medical surely is that not part of the move how does that happen if you don't do Because I was young, I had no major injuries beforehand.

16:10They took a gamble, I think. Was Newcastle the only team to bid for you at that point? No. So what happened when we were at the Euros at Euro 2004, Everton had agreed a deal with Chelsea for me to sign for Chelsea. And I had no knowledge of that whatsoever. so yeah and then my agent then went and spoke to Abramovich and their team basically and they said yeah they wanted to sign me then send me out on loan to Middlesbrough so I was like no chance so yeah so me going to London at that time it just didn't make sense at all so the minute I knew Manchester United were interested in me then that was the only place I was going to go really why did they want to send you to Borough bro I think because Steve McLaren was there and I think Bramovich liked him as a manager and he wanted me to go and work under Steve McLaren imagine if that went through instead of scoring a hat trick in a Champions League on your debut you'd have been smashing in goals in a Championship yeah so no but yeah it was honestly it was it was all weird it was like one minute I'm getting told Everton have agreed a deal with Chelsea I'm like I don't want to go to Chelsea how much in that situation Wayne it always fascinates me when we hear about transfers when you hear at clubs have agreed how much control and say do you have as a player because that sounds like a stupid question to ask well suppose you I suppose you have you have all the same really because you don't want to go so you can literally say no I'm not going yeah you're under contract so you don't have to go and so my my first day as manager at DC United I had to go in and have a meeting with an American player and tell him he was transferred to Vancouver from DC and that's like a six hour flight and his wife had just had a baby he had a newborn and that was my first job and I was like sorry oh is that because they trade players yeah it was horrible honestly he was just looking at me and was like I've just come into the job so that's where over there you can get the players got no no say really but obviously in England the players got all the say really Was it at any point during your time at United or maybe at Everton were there any point any foreign clubs came in for you?

18:43Yeah there was talks with a few different clubs Bastogne Madrid Bayern at one point Dortmund I think inquired as well so How close did they come? Not close Would you would you have wanted to have gone though to any of those? I'm not going to lie that Barcelona team wouldn't have been bad would it they would have to number nine as well and it's like that would have been nice wouldn't yeah I mean living in Barcelona is not too shabby as well isn't it I know but playing with Messi and Iniesta and Xavi and Busquets it's not a bad package is it you were not too much selling would you I actually think my game would have fitted right into that as well yeah it's alright though it didn't go too badly at Manchester United.

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20:09Let me take you back to 2013, Wayne, because you've spoken about the potential of going abroad. But I remember distinctly there were links with you going to Chelsea back then. Jose Mourinho made no secret as in true Jose style that he wanted to sign you. What was that like for you? what are your memories of that time yeah I was I was very close to going how close is very well I think Manchester United I think they said to Chelsea that they wanted 44 million for me and Chelsea didn't get to the 44 million and then I think they were offering Torres and Ramirez as well as money to Man United and they didn't take it.

20:58Yeah, they could go, yeah, they could do one. Sorry. Yeah, but no, but that was, that was quite close. I obviously spoke to Jose a few times. Okay, you've talked there about being on the other side of it, being a manager. Have you ever had to ring, or have you done a Scalzi? Let's call it done a Scalzi, rang anyone. Doesn't have to be on the house phone, maybe it'd be on the mobile to kind of try and persuade him to sign. Someone like Michael Carrick or anything like that. No, I don't think I have. I've done so last year when we were doing the the Euros I was out in Germany so I was trying to obviously sign players for Plymouth then so as soon as I finished the game I'm back in the hotel room on my laptop and putting presentations together and then doing calls with players to try and convince them to sign so yeah sorry you put presentations together for the players to join yeah what's in that presentation is it like a PowerPoint thing with like yeah you're just showing them you know what formation the team's going to play where they fit into that and you know just makes them feel a bit better oh that's insane I thought you'd have somebody to do that for you that is insane I didn't realise that you were going into a hotel room yourself on a computer that's insane it's I think that's the way it's gone now all the players because the they've got access to so much data and so much information that they've been brought up with it.

22:27So they want to know. They want to know more, really. Who did you do your UA for B and UA for Cs with? Was Cotton Cole in one of them? He was doing an A license, I think, when I was doing my pro, or he was doing a B while I was doing my A. Oh, is it? Because I remember having a chat with him and he was saying that it was like, he was saying that it was like you and somebody else was really good on the presentations, but when he was doing it he was terrible he didn't know how to use he's like he didn't know how to use computers because he'd never learned so in all my team meetings I can put it all together and stuff but then with computers and that so when I do my presentation for the Plymouth job so I've put it all together with the coach I have so I put it together so I'm going down meeting him and I'm like so to go to the next screen I just press arrow

23:22yeah so it's not my strong point computers what's it like doing your coaching badges did you start doing them as you while you're still playing or were you yeah well i actually started them when i was like 19 or 20 oh wow and then i stopped didn't have the time obviously we're playing stuff and then went back to them is it quite a lot like i know it sounds stupid is it quite a lot of commitment to get them all it's what about eight years oh wow yeah there was one we done for the pro license we got the cast of Les Mizzen it was amazing because they have to recruit the kids so obviously when the voice breaks and stuff them kids are no longer of use so they need to get more kids in so they have a whole recruitment team for the kids and stuff so they talked it through all that and the different managers for different parts of the show.

24:18And then at the end, you've got to actually learn the song and dance and do it. Hold on. For your coaching badges. Footballers. It's to put you in an uncomfortable position. How did you find that? Are you good at dancing? God, this is going to go really left field now. No. Who had the worst song and dance? Jonathan Woodgate was next to me, mate. He was loving it. You said you like musicals. yeah I do but not playing them I like watching them yeah because it's a bit different hold on do you have to get up individually and do it or like you're working together to do like are you working together so it's the song in Les Mis at the end of the day is it and then we're all like creeping forward and stuff no way honestly it's terrible why is there not footage of this there'll be a file of the videos of them oh that's hilarious that's better than anything I ever thought was going to come out of us asking about those sessions I can imagine them like changing a musical every year like this year we're doing Hamilton so everyone has to yeah no I think they've done Les Mis because the ones before those have all done it as well so Wayne do you think the process has changed as well a little bit for transfers like you talk about Sir Alex driving you to the stadium were you ever going up to a player's house and driving him to the training ground and showing him the facilities and stuff like that?

25:45Or has it changed a little bit now? I met a player at the Atlantis Waterpark in Dubai. On top of the log fling? No, I met him at a meeting with him to try and get him to Sanford, Darby. And I actually had... Sorry, but how does that come about? How do you say, I'll meet you at the waterpark? Because he was in Dubai, so I said, I'll meet you there. So we've met there. and I actually had a skin tight wet top on when I've been on the slide. Because if I don't have a top on, I'll just burn. So it's like one of them swim tops. It's like a man on a surfboard that's sitting on the front of it. And then it was sticking to me and I was like, what am I doing?

26:30I love the fact that you'd be at the top of the slide going, look, I've done a presentation and all this. If we just go down the slide, I can show you. In my laptop's over there. In my beach bag. having a really serious conversation yeah so I'm thinking of playing 4-3-3 stick it to me belly as well I'm starting to pull it out did he sign? no I can imagine him like in a group chat afterwards lads I've just had a chat with Wayne Rooney and he's got skin tight yeah I met a few players actually always in Dubai because a lot of players go to Dubai so it's actually easy to meet players out there I'm sorry but why the water park?

27:09why not a restaurant? why not that's what's blowing my mind why a water park I don't know actually phoned him up and he was actually at the water park the day I was going so I said I'll just meet you there do you like water slides mate yeah I'll see you there so let me take you back to when you first signed for Manchester United you're the big signing everyone's talking about you can you remember that kind of first day going in like it's like that first day at school isn't it but like yeah it's intimidating it is intimidating I knew obviously I knew a few players from England the English lads in the dressing room but then you're walking in you've got Rui Keane growling at you and Ryan Giggs and you know all these legends I've watched growing up as a kid now I'm I've sat one down from Rui and you're like this is nuts this is mad but the hard part for me was because I was still injured I was still injured so you didn't really feel part of it because I couldn't train with him so it was only when I started fully training with them that you feel part of it.

28:13Did you try and impress them straight away or what's it like? The first day's training, it was nuts. There's tackles flying in and you have to be upfront and ready because no one's coming into you and easing you in the right into you and I was the same, him giving it back and that's how the training was all the time. Who was the worst in training to give you a bit of stick if you were new? because I've heard stories before of like when a new player came in, somebody else would be shouting how much? Like if they like mishandled the ball or something like that. Yeah, there's a few really. There's one where your first day, there's quite a few lads waiting by the showers for you to walk in the shower.

29:01So that could be quite intimidating as well. And then, yeah, if you're having a bad touch or you're hitting over the bar and you know you can see so we had Patrice and and Vidage and I remember we played a game it was like a reserve game or whatever and me and Rio played in it and I was still in the showers with Rio and I was like mate these are crap honestly like that first six months for the year yeah I was like just get them off the wage bill send them back honestly they were that bad what was so bad? do you think they were just nervous? I think with Vida he struggled with the tempo and the speed him to start and he obviously adjusted to that and Petit was just remember Petit's first game?

29:51Petit's first game Trevor Sinclair absolutely bullied them and then obviously they both turned out to be unbelievable players for Manchester United but that first few months they were horrendous did you tell them to their face though? sorry yeah

30:08Can you laugh about it now with them as well? Yeah, no, you laugh, but to be fair, Patrice, it's like, I'm happy you told me that because it was an awakening for him. So yeah. What, did you just tell them randomly on a training field, like your crap, get out of here? Yeah, it's like, what is this? Oh my God. It's not good enough. But that shows you the standards though, right? They're like, that's the standards that were there at the time. Yeah, the training sessions honestly were incredible, the quality in them. Remember Wilfred Zaha, when he signed, he struggled a bit with adjusting to the tempo and whatever.

30:48So yeah, if you weren't up for it, then the players would be on you. Did that come from the manager, do you think, because of the way Sir Alex Ferguson, did he want that intensity? Did he look at the players to set that? No, I think where they signed, you had obviously Roy Keane, Giggsie, Gaznev, Scolzi, and they ran that really. Obviously, the manager's values and principles. You know, the manager weren't there half the time on the training pitch. He was doing other work in the training ground. But yeah, they ran all that. Do you respect players more when they do manage to turn it around? Like Evra and Vidic, that must have been so tough for them.

31:28But for them to go on and have the careers they did at United, knowing that you lot were essentially laughing at them. Yeah, and you could see, especially Vida, you could see how much he was playing on his mind and how hard he was working to get up to speed with it. And obviously he did, and it turned out to be an unbelievable player for us. So yeah, when it's not going well for you, to have the mindset and the character to be able to turn that around, I think is fantastic. did any of our new players ever come in and try to impress people too much and like they ended up nearly injuring somebody because their tackles were flying in or something not that not that I remember I remember there was a left back from the reserve Demi and he trained with us and before he went out to training I pulled him and I said like whatever you do you need to leave some impact on this training session I said whether that's a goal a tackle I said there's a tackle there to be one you're going with it mate he'd come out and absolutely smashed Nanny I was like oh my god at least Wayne told me to do that Nanny was fuming but then I said to him I have to see everyone's going in they're talking about you and it's good was there anybody else you weren't having somebody like Bebe for example well Bebe used to stand the way Cristiano does before his free kicks as well didn't he so yeah no it's there's players who who find it difficult and struggled I think you probably see them as much as I have so yeah it's a it's a different club to be fair Wayne was there ever a player that you saw say if you were on international duty or whatever that you saw and then you came back to United and you were like we need to sign him Karak was one was there any other players because I heard a rumour that you wanted Uzil to sign for United yeah that's obviously when it ended up in Alex Ferguson basically kicked me out of his office so yeah I was saying to have a look at Ozil and to be fair as he said to me it's none of my business and he would buy to question you know Sir Alex Ferguson on transfers and stuff so but I just felt I had to ask her the question so yeah But no, we can't skirt over this, Wayne.

33:56Take us into Alex Ferguson's office there. What happened? How do you approach going into his office and what do you say? Oh, no, I was never shy about going into his office. Yeah, so I went in and said to him, do you mind if I asked you a question? And it was basically... So I asked who we'd be placing Cristiano and Tevez with, who we'd lost over the last year or so. because at that time we'd signed Chris Malone and Phil Jones and no disrespect to them too that's not replacing Tevez Ronaldo so I wanted to the club offered me a five year deal so before I signed it I wanted to you know know that we were still going to be competing for the leagues and anyway within five seconds I'd been kicked out of his office Can you tell us what you said?

34:46Maybe bleep it Yeah I thought that was an he's not going to tell us anymore is he? Yeah he's not going to tell us no no You've got a fascinating perspective Wayne because you've seen transfers as a player and now as a manager as well and it feels like so much has changed in terms of the process of making a signing now Yeah like at Plymouth for instance for us to sign a player he gets put into the data and it spits out all his attributes and then you get a short list of players who fit in what you're looking for, really. In some ways, it's good, but in other ways, it doesn't tell you the player's character.

35:28It doesn't give you the feel for who the player is and what type of human being is he and stuff like that. So it can be good in one way, but also bad in another way. It's the same with all running stats and data and stuff like that. I think if you're not careful, you get overused. and then Mourinho was brilliant when Mourinho came to Man United all the GPS and that he wouldn't let you wear it really? yeah he just said I can see with my eyes if you're training hard ok so we are approaching the end of the transfer window what was what's this period like as a manager Wayne because no manager's ever happy are they in the last few days of the window even if you think you've got all the players you want you're still looking for more yeah well I think the last my last two jobs I haven't made the transfer window so I didn't have to worry about that tactical tactical yeah no but yeah it depends obviously you're always and especially if you haven't got the biggest budget as well so you're always waiting towards the end to see what pops up and players normally do pop up towards the end of the window so it was just a frantic time I remember at Derby I was sleeping in my office on deadline on you know the last week of in case we get to play it in, you'd have to rush it and do it quick.

36:50Kay, do you enjoy the transfer window as a fan? Do you know what? I think I enjoyed a transfer window. I enjoyed it a lot more back in the day when you didn't know every single movement that was happening. It's changed, doesn't it? Yeah, I think nowadays there's so much like, oh yeah, people are tracking flights now that players are on and private jets and stuff. And they're like, they're on their way to Manchester or they're on their way to London or wherever it is. And I think it's taken the fun out of it. I used to love waking up to the news that, oh, the transfers happened. And it was like, where the hell did that come from?

37:24Like it was a bolt out of the blue. I used to laugh you'd see Domino's getting delivered to Harry Redknapp. Transfer deadline day is not the same without Harry Redknapp. Of course, yeah. And I think nowadays transfer deadline day doesn't have the same sort of, you know, franticness that it used to have. I think like people on transfer deadline day would go right up to the wire and you'd see like loads of deals happening. Whereas I think now like you know what's going to happen. Yeah, it's a bit boring now, isn't it? In comparison, well, I'm sure we're going to have an exciting last few days of the transfer window.

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