Downton Abbey Star Joanne Froggatt | How Travel Shifts Your Perspective on Life

0:00You're listening to Travel Secrets with Tanya Rose, the podcast that shares wisdom for fellow world for partnering with Travel Secrets the podcast. Today my guest is the lovely British actress Joanne Froggatt famed for so many things but I think to the nation probably most well known for Anna Bates. We literally sat with our breath held when Mr Bates was taken to prison and oh my goodness. I know I know poor Anna Bates she really went through the mill she really went through the but it all came good in the end it all came good and we can't wait to see the new film coming out so all wonderful and then the other thing that I absolutely I've loved so many of the things but Liar literally terrified me oh it was amazing thank you thank you fantastic yeah it was um yeah it was just a it hit at a time that it was sort of you know just as the Harvey Weinstein stuff was coming out and yeah the timing was uh was sort of spooky actually with that story and the sort of who's telling the truth you know how hard it is to be believed well you know one person's word against another person all of that so yeah strange strange timing it's it was very good I think because lots of the girls who I know who are young are so mindful now about being spiked and yeah their drinks and everything absolutely you have to be so careful yeah anyway it was brilliant and you are brilliant and I'm so happy to have you and to hear your travel secrets so very happy to be here very excited before we get into them perhaps you can just tell us a little bit about yourself and how travel has impacted that person that you've become um I I love travel I love travel with such a passion and it's I've been very fortunate that doing what I do for a living you know we as an actor you get to go to different places different countries work in different countries and it's such a wonderful way to experience a place because you don't feel like a tourist you feel like you're sort of like in there a little bit you know you've sort of scratched the surface a little bit more than if you if you're just visiting somewhere so um I've definitely had some amazing experiences through work and sort of things connected to my work but also I just think it's just it's so important I love I love even just being at the airport you know and seeing life happen and seeing people greeting people they love and saying goodbye and tears and joy and it's like that scene in love actually you know but every time I'm at the airport I just take it all in and I love all of that and I think just visiting a different country whether it's a culture that's very different from your own or very similar it doesn't matter like just seeing how other people live seeing a different landscape it totally changes your perspective and it really brings me perspective and that's what I just love like so passionate about if people do ever have the opportunity to travel and it can be within the country you live you know or obviously abroad as well then I just think it's such an important thing you grew up in Yorkshire didn't you I did yeah yeah so landscape is very big for me um nature is is huge I love nature I grew up on the North Yorkshire moors um it's very Wuthering Heights oh yeah you know very wild um there wasn't another house for like two miles no street lights no nothing and at the time when you know when I was a teenager I sort of found that a bit tedious and just wanted to be escape escape into town on the bus that didn't exist but um but now when I go back there I think oh my goodness this was such a wonderful place to grow up and we had so much freedom as kids because we could go and build dens and play in the woods and all you know all of these things that you know now maybe not so safe but um but yeah so nature is is a passion of mine because I grew up with it you know lovely have you ever done Wuthering Heights I haven't actually and it's one of my favorite books I've read the audio book for Audible oh have you so yeah but that's the closest I've got yeah I think you should definitely do Wuthering Heights they need to have a remake yeah for the older older older Kathy older Kathy um let's go into your travel secrets what is the number one destination that you think everyone should go to once in their lifetime so a number one destination now it's a bit it's a bit vague but I would say if possible the top of a mountain any mountain or if you're fortunate enough to be able to um underneath the sea so diving on the top of a mountain because of that same thing that I just mentioned I think you know whether you're fortunate enough to be able to go and ski and you see you know you're at the top of this amazing mountain in the snow in the winter or whether you just hike up a mountain um in the summertime and have gorgeous walks there's something about the sort of feeling of insignificance when you're there that really brings you great perspective and and and i find i get the same feeling when i look at the ocean um you know i've done some diving i'd love to do my paddy course which i haven't done but again scuba diving gave me that same feeling of just insignificance really and really just kind of makes you feel like this tiny speck which we all are in as part of this big picture of the world and it's just such a wonderful feeling actually to sort of get rid of all the the busyness out of your mind and on the top of the mountain you don't have wi-fi so you can't have a mobile connection yeah even do you ski um I do really badly really badly I'm not very good I'm very much a green run easy green girl and sort of toddle down like a bit of a nana but I absolutely love it I do love it yeah hiking do you hike yeah yeah I do yeah when I've been in sort of places lived in LA for a couple of years and loved doing like the canyons there um yeah I'm up for like walking, hiking, love all that.

6:19Did you move to LA because of a job or did you actually go out there? Just sort of like, yeah, just as a, as a part experience, part for work. I didn't go for a specific job, but I worked when I was there. So yeah, lived there sort of on and off for a couple of years, which was an amazing experience actually. It's so sad what's going on there at the moment. Really sad. Yeah. How is that going to be rebuilt? Yeah. so many friends have sort of lost homes and yeah and it's just you know the landscape's been completely wiped out the the wildlife you know the villages the homes people it's just yeah it's um gonna take a long time unthinkable really yeah let's go on to your most unexpected travel experience yes so I had quite I've had a few but probably my most unexpected was um um I was um I was 23 and um I was very fortunate to go on a trip to Tanzania with a charity that um an actress I was working with had worked with and it's a charity called Plan International and since then I've sponsored a child with them so they sponsor children in developing countries um and that money goes into um you know a community um pot in which you know they have people that live within those communities that work for the charity and have sort of long-standing relationships with communities for sort of 10-20 years.

7:44So this was my first trip and my first introduction to them. So we went to Tanzania, went to Dar es Salaam and visited some schools and projects that the charity were running sort of in a city and then more rural areas which was an incredible experience in itself and too much to tell in one story but that was the trip. and then we had three days um at the end of this trip where we had downtime that we could do whatever we wanted and I always wanted to go on a safari so I you know I was 23 I couldn't afford to fly myself so I went to this travel agent in Dar es Salaam and um spoke to the travel agent and she said oh you can get the bus but it's not safe for you to get the bus on your own so but my but my assistant Edna has um family in Makumi National Park so you can get the bus to Makumi National Park with Edna she can be your guide um it's like a five-hour trip yeah I was like okay great so I got the the of contacts at the charity to go and speak to them make sure it was safe and they you know sort of checked everything out for me so I was they were like yeah no you'll be fine so um me and Edna set off from Dar es Salaam and Edna had quite you know she had a bit of English but her English was certainly wasn't fluent so it was um it was an it was an interesting experience but um so we got on this bus and obviously it was out of tourist season I mean don't think there is a tourist season as such in Dar es Salaam but um and um you know it was just it was very much like people with chickens and stuff sat next to you and all of that stuff which was amazing and everyone's just sort of staring at me a bit like what are you doing on here this is just random um anyway so we we do the really long drive uh get to mcumie national park and which is just incredible and um down the opposite side of the bus to where we were sat everyone sort of stood up and started shouting simba simba because they'd seen the lion so i didn't get to see the lion but what i like stood up and we couldn't see it literally five minutes down the road edna my guide who i have to be literally attached to otherwise I'm you know scared I'm just like out on my own literally in the wilderness um she just starts arguing with the bus driver in Swahili I have no idea what's going on and she just goes come on we go we go and we I was like what here like what do you mean because we're literally in the middle of the national park and there's been a lion like five minutes away and I'm like why are we just getting off the bus and it's just like tall grass and all that and I'm just like what and she was just like come on we go and obviously you know that's about as much English as we had so I was like okay so I just followed Edna off the bus and then we walked down this um this path to these lodgings and she thought that's where we were staying and she got the wrong she got the wrong place and there's all these signs saying no pedestrians no cyclists it's just like lions like imminent death it might as well have said and I'm just like is this safe Edna I don't think we should be um she's like no come on we go we go it's like okay um so anyway then we so we go to this lodging we realize it's not where we're staying walk back to the main road again with imminent death in my head um and then this taxi luckily pulls up we were then like hitchhiking to try and get into mcumi village so then she's like trying to flag down vehicles and i'm just i have no choice but to just go with it i'm like okay hi um then luckily this taxi pulls up with um two american students in it and they literally pulled up and went what are you doing and i was like I don't know I'm just following Edna and we're like we're trying to get to Mukumi village and they went okay get in get in the taxi so we got to Mukumi village found where we were staying um and me and Edna were sharing a room and then we had a little walk around the village bumped into these two students again and Edna wanted to go and see her family so luckily we bumped into these two guys and I can't remember their names but one of them was there uh teaching English so his Swahili was really good so we basically bumped into them Edna said come on we go to all of us and we all went to her family's place and they made us dinner and they had this sort of like shack bar type thing and they made us dinner we had beers and between Edna's bit of English and his lovely chat Swahili we could manage to sort of converse and have this conversation and yeah it was it was incredible and so the next morning we do the safari which was Edna's cousin in a clapped out old taxi that picked us up and took us around some of the national park which I swear how that thing did not break down on us I do not know um how dangerous it was quite it was quite dangerous um so we did this yeah safari we did see a few things so I saw a giraffe I didn't see Simba.

12:32Did you see Simba? No, I didn't see Simba, but saw giraffes and what else did we see? A zebra, you know, but we didn't see any big cats or anything. And then so he dropped us off at a bus stop to then get a bus back to Dar es Salaam that day. And again, that was an adventure. So we get dropped off at this bus stop and there's these little sort of mini buses to take you to the big bus. and for whatever was happening that day again I couldn't make sense of it because obviously I don't didn't speak Swahili still don't um so these buses kept coming along and they were filled to the rafters and I mean people hanging out the windows like chickens everything like there's no so we couldn't get on these buses and it's baking hot and I'm just like oh my god so for four hours we're trying to get on a bus then we managed to get on this little like um mini bus again Edna's just like come on we go we go like okay get on this minibus and i think okay great we're going to the big bus stop um then again everyone just starts like this conversation in swahili which builds into this huge row the whole minibus starts having a row the driver pulls over then we get all we all get off the bus we'll get thrown off the bus then about an hour later i see this big bus come in that says darah salam on it and i'm like edna come on no we go come on So I literally like grabbed her by the arm, ran to the front, got on this bus.

13:57And I think we stood up like the whole way back to Darislam. But we made it back. Oh, my God. So that was like the whole thing was unexpected. But an amazing experience. And thank goodness you were 23. Yes. Because you wouldn't want to be doing that now. I wouldn't want to do it now. No, no, no. Now you need to go on one of these luxurious safaris. Exactly. Have you actually been on a safari since? No, I haven't. And it's one of my bucket list things that I want to do. Definitely need to do. Like a proper safari holiday. So you do every day. Wonderful. Well, we have a new hotel. We have a hotel in South Africa in Cape Town called The Saxon that's opening a safari next, the end of this year.

14:30And it's where Nelson Mandela lived and where he wrote The Long Walk to Freedom. And it's going to be a really amazing big five. You see everything, but very private. So let me know if you want to go. Okay, thank you. I absolutely will. I think that would be a little bit more luxurious than this one, but it's a brilliant story. Thank God for Edna. We go, we go. Exactly. thank goodness well Simba didn't attack you so you're fine you live to tell the tale what is your most overrated or underrated travel experience once I guess overrated but then it's sort of like me slamming a whole country of destination which I don't want to do and I think it was just I had a bad holiday it wasn't quite it wasn't the country's fault so I might skip over that but there was one sort of underrated experience that I had and it was underrated basically because I was just very shallow in the way that I booked it and didn't really look into it so it sounds really bad but there's this great uh tv show called nine perfect strangers oh I love it yes fantastic um amongst lots of other brilliant actors and I remember watching that I think it was like towards the end of lockdown maybe anyway and the location they filmed it I was like oh my goodness this looks amazing where is this and I googled it and it was it's called Soma and it's in Byron Bay in Australia then at the end of was it 22 at the end of 22 I went to Australia to do a job again so I was obsessed that I had to go and do a little retreat at this place Soma because it just looked great and to be honest that is the reason I booked it which is the shallow reason that I booked it but what I did book was this meditation retreat and it was an introduction into um ayurvedic meditation so some people call it transcendental meditation oh my goodness it blew my mind it was incredible so i went on my own and um byron bay is just the most stunning place anyway it's so beautiful the beaches are amazing and it's you know it's very lush um tropical you know landscape and it's just gorgeous and um so you you kind of rock up and there's a group of people there and they cook this ayurvedic food for you um and it was either couples or single people and you don't know anyone and um you just spend this sort of very intense but calm like two two and a half days together and it was such an incredible experience not only learning the meditation technique because i found that really really powerful actually do i keep it up no not all the time i did for a while but it was and it is it's it's a great tool to go back to it is like i wish i'd kept it up more but again you can always go back to it but what was so incredible about it was the setting was stunning all of that was just completely lived up to expectation and some but it was just me just being again doing having that experience of like being a solo traveler with a group of people that you didn't and that you didn't know and how we bonded and shared stories and you know kind of went through this experience together and shared so much of our lives in conversation and again that to me is like the magic of traveling anywhere you could be on a bus in the back of beyond wherever it may be you can be in a lovely meditation retreat in Byron Bay but really what makes it is the people you meet and the people you're thrown in with and that you have these experiences with and it really brought it home and it was just such a magical couple of days away from the world we saw there's a koala that lives in the forestry around there and we saw the koala in the tree and it just like these really special quiet moments that felt really magical so it was an incredible experience.

18:25Did they give you a mantra in transdental meditation? Yes, you're not allowed to tell anyone your mantra. Yeah, so Gary, his name is an unusual name for a meditation specialist or whatever you call them. Yeah, so Gary would take you off one by one and takes you and gives you your mantra and you have that mantra. I wonder if it's the same for everyone because no one's allowed to tell. Well, that's what I wondered as well. I did. But then someone else said, because he says, if you forget it, you can ask me again the next day. Yeah, but if it's the same, it's easy for him to remember, isn't it? I said, oh, I can remember mine because it sounds like something rude.

18:59That's as much I'll give away. And someone else went, oh, that's definitely not mine. Maybe they just had a different, maybe they just had a cleaner brain than me. I had Mark Strong on the podcast. In fact, he was the first person I interviewed. And he was doing Nine Perfect Strangers, the new one. So they're doing a new one. But he was in Austria. He didn't get Australia, I'm afraid. He was like, Nicole got Austria. I mean, Australia and I got Australia. Maybe someone got it wrong on the call sheet. he was definitely going to australia he was like no it's australia right but i think nicole's in the second one as well oh amazing well i will be watching yeah no definitely because he phoned me and he said i'm sitting on a mountain listening to my podcast with nicole i was like oh yes nicole kidman's listening to my podcast how exciting how exciting so what was your overrated or i'm not going to say you don't want to be mean i don't mean about a whole country i'm maybe not going to say the country because I feel like it'll be bad because it's not the country's fault but I did have this nightmare holiday once the only nightmare holiday I've had where I actually flew home early it was so bad um but it was just one of those where just everything went wrong and it was only supposed to be a week and went to checked into this one hotel which I booked and the person the person I was with had booked and um quickly realized it was sort of like it's not somewhere I wanted to stay anyway it was just not it was not great and it was very busy and because of what I do for a living it was very much like everybody was staring and it was like I felt very like enclosed and it was I just thought oh this isn't going to be a holiday so we thought we just want to find some there quiet like this was a big space with lots of people and it was I was just like we just want something a bit quiet so checked out found a little cheaper hotel that was just like really lovely really quiet um checked in there but they only had rooms for for one night so basically long story short ended up changing hotels for four nights in a row oh my goodness then we'd booked this really gorgeous like bit more expensive hotel for three nights went to this hotel both got food poisoning then i was like right i'm just gonna let's just get a flight because this is just not meant to be and they're like silly so get a get this flight buy an extra flight home and sat next to this lady on the flight bless her again I can't remember her name but she was so sweet I really felt for her she was an elderly lady and we sat down and she started crying when the flight took off and I say obviously said are you okay and she said no I've actually just lost my friend um we were on holiday and anyway so she had a very sad story i said i'm so sorry um and the drinks trolley came past i said can i buy you a glass of wine and she was like oh thank you that's so kind she went can i have four i was like uh yeah sure i mean look you're grieving you can have whatever you want and so anyway she had her wine bless her and that cheered her up and then she nodded off to sleep and then passed out and then she nodded off to sleep so she nodded off to sleep then while she was asleep someone went literally went is there a doctor on board i was like this trip is like so strange what is going on so anyway then there was some kerfuffle somebody was ill a few seats behind so that got sorted out then this lovely lady woke up and she hadn't she wasn't used to traveling and she said she didn't know how to get through passport control and stuff so i said it was fine just follow me and i'll take you through and she didn't have to do a seatbelt and stuff so i was like it's fine she was like you've been so kind i was like of course it's like no problem and she said you know what she went i take in battery hens you know like old battery hens that really you know they've like they've laid all their eggs no one wants them anymore she went what's your name i said joe i'm gonna name one after you i was like thank you so much that's so kind so that was that was the end of the holiday oh and then when we landed the um yeah the um the the the air flight attendant said um can everyone stay on the plane because the police are gonna board because they've been some event up front and somebody got arrested i didn't see that so that was yeah that was the whole trip was but it was the being named after a battery hen being named after a battery you should have just said she's gonna be named after me sorry the battery should have just said anna bates yeah you could have had an anna bates battery hen running around somewhere there's a lovely mangy battery hen called joe oh that's who's living a lovely life actually which makes me happy yeah so let's talk about food and drink food and drink is so part of travel it's what we all love we all need what is the best meal you've ever had what do you like eating where do you go cocktail let's just talk about food and drink in the sense of travel well I love food and drink and especially traveling because it's you know again it's part of the whole experience isn't it to be able to eat the local cuisine and find places that are you know I like to find hidden away places that you know I was kind of a little bit off the beaten track and try and get recommendations and um little local restaurants um so wherever I am I try and do that I'll try and like I say just get recommendations from people that have been um one meal that stands out which is none of those things that I just couldn't get out of my head for so long afterwards and it's so bougie that I'm really sorry that this is the meal I'm coming up with but um I went to Nobu in Malibu when I lived in LA and um had sushi there and I love sushi but this sushi was like no sushi I'd ever had in my life because we were sat on the terrace I was with my manager Mike actually and we were sat on the terrace which is basically on the beach and so you hear sort of ocean lapping in and it was the first time I'd ever experienced warmed rice with the sushi so it's like warmed rice crispy on the bottom with spicy tuna on top and it melted in your mouth like nothing I've ever had before and I just I couldn't stop talking about it for weeks and it was amazing and so that definitely stands out as a as a travel sort of a bougie travel spot that was amazing what do you do here about food and drink do you have restaurants you go to here or yeah again I kind of I suppose I um I suppose it's usually for like an event like friends birthdays you know things like that um I do uh recently went to the Hand and Flowers which is in Marlow so um that's a really lovely experience it's a sort of like a bit more of a yeah an experienced dinner um I really want to go to the fat duck which is Heston Blumenthal's like taster menu um so yeah I really want to try I really want to try that as a sort of one-off experience yeah yeah I mean they're amazing yeah you know completely different experiences it's not really just because they're Michelin Yeah.

25:59And when you're on set, for example, Downton, is the catering good? Do you have people? I know I've got to be careful what I say. No, you do have to be careful what you say. But are you able to say I'd like to eat such and such or do they just do it? No, no. It's sort of like a choice of many. Actually, our caterers on Downton were really great. They genuinely were really great. On set, not always. The best food I've ever had at work is in Australia. I've worked there three times and their catering is just, it's like restaurant quality. You get sides of fish. It's gorgeous salads. You sort of go and you serve yourself at a big table.

26:35So it's a very communal experience. Everyone always sits together. Whereas in the UK, actors probably go to their trailers and you get a sort of, since COVID, you get a sort of like cardboard box with some warmish. stuff in it that you kind of wolf down and don't think about the taste too much but Australia it's like a it is an event lunch and it's the produce is so fresh because it's all locally sourced and well where I was in Sydney um and oh my goodness it's it was an absolute joy lunchtime was working on when you went to Australia I've done three projects there so I did one when I was 25 which was called Murder in the Outback and it was about Joanne Lees and Peter Falconeo.

27:21It was the true story about Peter's disappearance and death and how Joanne was sort of vilified by the press. I then did another show in 2019 out there called The Commons, which was an amazing show about sort of where we're going over the next seven years in terms of like climate change and you know the world as a whole and then I went back in 22 to do um a show called North Shore which is actually just started airing on ITV oh has it yeah it just popped on over Christmas oh brilliant we filmed it ages ago and it was on in Australia I wasn't sure it was going to come excellent yeah if I go on iPlayer I can see it ITVX yeah I think it's on there fantastic there we go little plug for North Shore Good, good.

28:12Excellent. North Shore. I shall be watching it next. What is your best insider travel tip or secret? My best insider travel tip would be to research the local culture. So, you know, you're being respectful to the local culture. Because when I was younger, I definitely was a little bit, you know, naive about certain things and kind of found myself going, I really should have checked that out, you know. um and also just to talk to people like be safe and to talk to people be safe but be open I think to be able to sit on a plane have a chat to somebody sit on the bus sit on the you know wherever it is um find out where the locals are going yeah exactly what they do speak to the locals like you know immerse yourself and um be open to the experience I guess be safe but be open to the experience and I think you get the best out of things if you kind of go with the flow a little bit as well and if you're on location do you get time off to be able to do that or is that sometimes it depends I mean I was very lucky um when I went to Australia to do North Shore at the end of 22 I stayed for another six weeks the first job I did there I stayed for four months and went backpacking um and did like the east coast of Australia a little bit of New zealand not as much as i would have liked um and yeah i mean when i stayed um in 2022 when i did north shore obviously having been there three times and i love australia i love it with a passion um i knew exactly where i wanted to stay i was like so i stayed in north bondi i had this amazing small apartment it was a little bit it overlooked the ocean so i just had this balcony just overlooked the ocean i could see dolphins and it was my dream come true it was just incredible and that's when I got to do the trip to Soamro and Byron Bay and I went to Uluru as well on that trip so yeah it's amazing to get those opportunities It's absolutely lovely to be able to do it and actually I think you're right if you're there for a long time you actually do live it more like a local don't you and Luke Evans was on this and he did something in Australia He was in Nine Perfect Strangers Yes it was exactly that and it was during COVID I think because they were still filming but there was nobody around he said yeah so he said it was wonderful they were on the beach on their own and they could do everything he just absolutely loved it so yeah yeah I actually don't know Australia my husband wants to go to New Zealand which I would love to go to as well I've not been to the South Island of New Zealand and it's supposed to be just epic I would love to yeah get a get a show over there so that you can go yeah absolutely yeah what is your most poignant travel memory so it's in australia actually i have so many poignant memories actually from my time in australia i've spent a total of about 14 months there all together on different trips um and the first time i went um as i said i went backpacking for four months after i finished the job so i was 25 i flew up to cairns up to from sydney up to cairns and did like cape tribulation and some stuff quite far north and then made my way back down the east coast I had so many incredible experiences and met so many incredible people but there was a moment that just I just a moment in my life where if if there is a such thing as heaven I've never felt as close to heaven and than I have in this moment and we were with a friend of mine Lucy and I had done a boat trip um that we'd met traveling and we did a catamaran trip from the around the Whitsunday Islands and And it was this, some people were doing like the booze cruise things and we wanted to do like a nice, you know, diving or the rest of it, which we chose well.

32:03So we did this catamaran trip for a couple of days. We spent a couple of days on the boat with a group of people and you just do, you just do diving every day basically. And you also do a trip to Whitehaven Beach, which is this beach you can only get to by boat. and um you you have to do like a little bit of a mini hike um and you can sort of come up the brow of this hill and then you sort of look down on white haven beach and it is basically like that it's like it's like a white heaven beach the sand is white the it's so at that time it was so unspoilt obviously it's a little while ago now but um and the color of the ocean is just like clear turquoise and I remember just walking off down the beach so I was just walking off on my own and I couldn't see anyone around me and they've had these baby reef sharks just in the estuaries because I was just sort of paddling through the little estuaries of the of the ocean coming in and these little baby reef sharks was sort of like rainbow colored they were sort of like iridescent rainbow colors and they just kept swimming in between my legs and I just had this moment of and the sun was shining and I was just like wow if there is a heaven this is this is it this is what it is for me yeah so that moment always just stands out in my brain when you were doing your transcendental meditation did they say go somewhere that you feel peaceful and wonderful and you saw yeah that place that's my peaceful place yeah I can imagine yeah absolutely oh how Oh, wonderful.

33:37Which takes us nicely onto the photograph. I asked you to bring a photograph that sums up travel and how you feel about travel. Can you just talk us through that photograph? Yes. So I've brought a photo of me at Katajuta Mountains, I guess you'd call them mountains. So they're part of the mountain range next to Uluru in Australia. And it kind of sums up trouble for me it's just me on my own in a pair of denim shorts and a rain mac in flip-flops kind of just at my best piece I would say kind of looking at something or being in a place that feels very majestic but natural beauty and um I I just love nothing more than just throwing on a pair of denim shorts seeing something beautiful being in nature um if I could I just have my bare feet in the sand every day but um but yeah so for me that is sort of sums up everything a relaxed a relaxed feel but sort of yeah in a majestic one with nature yeah yeah how wonderful and it's a wonderful photo thank you so much for sharing that with us before we go what's next for you and where are you going next?

34:56What's next for me? Work-wise or whatever. Well very excitingly I am currently filming New Guy Ritchie Project and Tom Hardy plays the lead I play Tom's wife Helen Mirren and Pierce Brosnan are also leading it's Paddy Constine lovely Laura Pulver, many many huge cast around it but yes so it's been a really really exciting really fun job to be on it's um based around um a sort of gangster family a london gangster family and tom's character is their loyal fixer so pierce and helen play the head of this height you know sort of crime family very successful crime family um yeah so yeah it's been really exciting when will that come out march quick very soon yeah so we start we finish filming about two weeks before it airs i think oh wow so it's a quick turnaround that's a real quick turner I can't wait to watch that and where are you going next um I'm not sure where I'm going next or where would you like to be where I'd like to go there's a few places I'd like to go mind you there's lots of places I'd like to go um I'd love to go to the Maldives and again it's a bucket list thing that I have always wanted to do and I'd love to do some diving there yeah I'd love to do that um I don't know if that will be next but it's certainly something I'd like to do in the not too distant future um I'd also love to go to Cuba and I've not been to South America at all so I'd like to I'd like to see some of South America and safari yes so lots of wonderful things on the horizon and we must keep in touch so I can send you to all of the above gorgeous sounds perfect it's been so lovely to talk to you thank you so much for sharing your travel secrets it's been really fun thank you pleasure thanks for having me thank you thank you so much for listening to this episode of Travel Secrets.

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