In short
Konstantin Kisin argues that mainstream media and politicians use “lies” and dishonest framing—especially clipping quotes out of context—to inflame polarization and avoid addressing substantive arguments. He cites Charlottesville, Trump’s “very fine people on both sides” remarks, and claims media cut context to imply Trump defended neo-Nazis. He also describes a UK example: Labour minister Douglas Alexander allegedly misrepresented Kisin’s Question Time comments about British vs English identity and Rishi Sunak.
Key claims
net zero is “industrial suicide” harming the economy; both Labour and Conservatives imported more people into Britain than between 1066–1950; smears replace debate; Ground News helps reveal “blindspots.”
Notable examples
Charlottesville Unite the Right; Matt Goodwin quote clipping; Douglas Alexander’s “Sunak isn’t English” framing.
Guests
none mentioned; episode features Konstantin Kisin as the speaker.
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Chapters
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1:11 to 2:32
Learn about the Snacksy app, which rewards you for playing games you enjoy.
“I'm not a gamer, even though I look like one.”
Media Manipulation and Political Lies
2:41 to 7:53
Examine the ways media manipulation distorts political narratives and public perception.
“On August 12, 2017, a neo-Nazi deliberately drove his car into a crowd of left-wing protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing a 32-year-old woman called Heather Heyer and injuring 35 others.”
Media Manipulation and Political Lies
9:36 to 10:00
Examine the ways media manipulation distorts political narratives and public perception.
“Well, when you're with farmers, it's kind of inevitable.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Konstantin Kisin:I've bought two mattresses in my entire life. Both times I walked into a shop, lay on it for about four seconds and thought, yeah, that'll do. Genuinely world-class decision making, which is crazy because you spend a third of your life on the thing and most of us buy one the way you'd buy a toaster. Today's sponsor is Avocado Green Mattress. Certified organic mattresses. No polyurethane foam anywhere near them, just natural materials and they're handmade. The bit that actually got me is you don't have to buy it blind. Avocado has real showrooms plus retail partners across the US. So you can go in, lie down properly, not for four seconds, and work out if it actually suits you before you pay for it.
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1:22Konstantin Kisin:I think it's Japanese and I think there's a sword. That's genuinely everything I know. But our social media guys showed me this app and I genuinely thought, that's quite clever. It's called Snacksy. Basically, game publishers need new players and they're willing to pay to get them. Snacksy just passes that money onto you. You play games you were probably going to play anyway. You own coins and you cash them out for real rewards. PayPal, Amazon, Netflix, gift cards. If you prefer gaming credit, you can redeem for PlayStation, Xbox, Steam and Nintendo or cash out your Ineba wallet. I've got no idea what that means.
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2:41Francis Foster:On August 12, 2017, a neo-Nazi deliberately drove his car into a crowd of left-wing protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing a 32-year-old woman called Heather Heyer and injuring 35 others. America and the rest of the world were on a knife edge. The victims were assembled to counter the Unite the Right rally, a demonstration against the proposed removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee, a Confederate general. And the attack acted as a climax to the nation's increasing polarization and paranoia about President Trump's links with the so-called alt-right. At a press conference in the media aftermath, President Trump made a series of incendiary comments, including saying that there were very fine people on both sides.
3:23Francis Foster:Like many, I was horrified and outraged by the fact that instead of trying to bring calm, Trump chose to further inflame a highly volatile situation. But not nearly as horrified and outraged as I was when I later discovered that this was all an elaborate orchestrated media hoax. In actual fact, at that very press conference, President Trump made it clear that his comments were describing peaceful protesters who opposed the removal of the statue, saying, I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. But the media cut his comments out of context and ran headline after headline claiming he was defending the very people he'd just condemned.
4:05Francis Foster:To this day, millions of people believe this lie. Last week, I saw it again here in Britain when the Labour Party clipped comment by Matt Goodwin, Reform's Candida in the upcoming Gorton and Denton by-election, out of context to claim he'd criticized Manchester when he was in fact criticizing the Conservative Party conference which had been held in Manchester. This time, the media didn't have to lie. Our politicians did it for them. These dirty tricks are sadly part of the ugly game of politics. More troublingly, they are now increasingly spreading to the arena of public debate more broadly. During my appearance on Question Time last week, the usually decent Labour Minister Douglas Alexander tried to pull a similar move on me.
4:47Francis Foster:Unable to respond to my criticism of his government's failure on immigration and the attempt to demonize millions of normal British people who dared to notice that failure, he instead tried to suggest that I'm a bigot. You said Rishi Sunak isn't English because he's a brown Hindu, was his retort. This is a skillful lie on several levels, the purpose of which was to deflect attention away from his and his party's failings. Here's how it works. First, he deliberately concealed from the viewer that my comments were made in a discussion of the difference between British and English identity, so that it looks like I was saying Rishi Sunak doesn't belong in Britain.
5:22Francis Foster:That's not what I was saying. Second, he failed to mention that in that very same conversation, I explained that my son, born to two immigrant parents like Sunak, is also, in my view, not English. No matter how evil Douglas Alexander thinks I am, even he could hardly accuse me of being racist against my own children. Third, he failed to mention that Fraser Nelson, the journalist with whom we were having the debate, wrote an article afterwards describing my view with which he disagrees as a perfectly fair point. Fourth, he failed to mention that Fraser was the one that brought up Rishi Sunak, not me.
5:56Francis Foster:I don't go around discussing who's English and who isn't. And fifth, finally, and most importantly, he didn't mention that prior to being elected, Rishi Sunak described himself as British Indian, saying, British Indian is what I take on the census. We have a category for it. I am thoroughly British. This is my home and my country. But my religious and cultural heritage is Indian. My wife is Indian. These five steps is how you go from two people having a reasonable discussion about their views of what it means to be English and British to pretending that one of them is evil. Even if you disagree with what I said or thought I didn't articulate my point well, this is dishonest framing.
6:34Francis Foster:Why do they do this? Because it's easier than addressing the arguments I'm making. On question time, I made two basic points. One is that net zero is industrial suicide, which has destroyed our economy and produced zero growth since 2008. The second is that both Labour and Conservative governments have imported more people into Britain over their respective terms and power than had come between 1066 and 1950. Can they deny this? No. Can they dispute the facts? No. So all they have are the smears and the insults. Over the last few days, there's been an attempt by a few non-entities on social media to have me banned from further question time appearances.
7:13Francis Foster:These people still think it's 2016 when these tactics worked. Let me explain something to you. You've had the monopoly on the microphone for a long time, and it's made you lazy, and it's made you arrogant. More than 2 million people now watch and listen to Trigonometry. 100 ,000 read my substack every week. Our show is part of a massive ecosystem of alternative media, which is the reason the legacy media is dying. You can keep trying to cancel people from the conversation to maintain your echo chamber. But even if you succeed, all that will achieve is driving more people into our arms. If you really hate my views and what I stand for, there's only one thing you can do.
7:50Francis Foster:Make better arguments. Good luck. You're going to need it. One final thing. A lot of people on social media over the last few days have called me a grifter. And because of that, I'd just like to remind you, you can find my work at www.constantinkissen.com and of course, trigonometry at triggerpod.co.uk. Most people think they're informed. In reality, they're selectively informed. Modern media doesn't just tell stories. It quietly decides which ones you never hear about at all. That's why I use Ground News. It's the only app that compares how the same story is covered across the political spectrum and show you what whole audiences are not being told.
8:28Francis Foster:The Blindspot feed is one of my favorite features. Every day, it flags upwards of 20 stories that are being ignored either by the left or the right. Follow along at ground.news slash trigonometry. Take this story. A major US poll found that Republican voters' confidence in Trump's economic leadership has dropped sharply during his second term. That is not a minor data point. If you only read right-leaning publications, you would have missed this completely. On the other hand, look at this. The UAE drops UK from scholarship list over radicalization concerns on university campuses. That's a significant story.
9:00Francis Foster:Yet, coverage from left-leaning outlets was almost non-existent. Ground News puts all of this in one place. Headlines, bias breakdowns, ownership, and context. So you can actually understand what's going on, not just react to what you're told. Go to ground.news slash trigonometry to get 40 % off their unlimited vantage plan. The same one we use. And stop being managed by the media.
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