In short
Rob Schneider discusses politics and free speech after the 2024 election, arguing that “90s liberal” views now get labeled “fascist,” and that left-leaning groups silence dissent (especially on university campuses). He also talks about comedy’s increasing seriousness/wokeness, protests at shows, and how stand-up should stay contrarian and dangerous-but-not-lecturing. He connects these themes to examples from Berkeley riots, COVID-era lockdown “tyranny,” and global “reset” geopolitics (oil, Venezuela/Iran, Trump strategy). He also shares career/stand-up influences and several personal anecdotes (a Vegas lunch incident leading him to call ICE; Richard Pryor stories; impressions; comedy-writing philosophy).
Guests
Rob Schneider is the main guest. No other named guests appear in the transcript (the host is not identified by name). He references public figures as examples: Charlie Kirk, Peter Cook, Dudley Moore, John Cleese, Eric Idle, Mark Twain, Jay Leno, Jerry Seinfeld, David Letterman, Richard Pryor, Jordan Peterson, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Andrew Doyle, Peter Boghossian, Thomas Cahill, Robert Malone, Josh Shapiro, Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, and “Canadian truckers.”
Key claims
universities hoard tickets to prevent attendance; comedy is being policed by protesters; COVID protests were against real tyranny; “weak leadership” invites authoritarianism; Trump’s oil leverage forces China to cooperate; woke backlash is collapsing.
Notable examples
Berkeley riot stopping a comedian; calling ICE after a nervous Mexican waiter’s comment; Peter Cook’s savage satire; Seinfeld’s joke structure; Pryor’s prison “double Muslims” bit; COVID restrictions varying by state; El Salvador under Bukele as “control vs chaos” comparison.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOComedy and Cultural Observations
2:19 to 3:46
Discussion on personal experiences and cultural observations related to humor and society.
“And when you sign up, use the code TRIGGERPOD.”
Political Commentary and Liberalism
3:46 to 4:50
Rob Schneider shares thoughts on the current political landscape and liberalism's evolution.
“Last time we had you on the show, it was right after the election.”
Influence of English Humor
4:50 to 7:20
Exploration of English humor's impact on comedy and its subtlety compared to American humor.
“We can't do everything we'd like to, but we'd like to very much so.”
The Role of Comedy in Society
7:20 to 9:10
Discussion on the responsibility of comedians and the current state of comedy.
“But one of the things that I've noticed about American humor, and I love American humor, I love your stand-up, comedies are great.”
Engagement with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA
9:10 to 14:00
Schneider discusses his interactions with Charlie Kirk and the importance of dialogue.
“They talk about faraway lands like Hawaii.”
The Importance of Free Speech
14:00 to 18:00
Explore the significance of free speech and the challenges faced in its defense.
“questioning it and going, I don't know, what is it?”
Comedians and the Changing Landscape of Comedy
18:00 to 20:52
Delve into the evolution of comedy and the impact of societal shifts on comedians.
“I mean, I do think that for sure the weak leadership seems to bring about more difficult times.”
Reflections on Leadership and Society
20:52 to 28:00
Discuss reflections on leadership, societal challenges, and the nature of freedom.
“He was the best comedian of his generation.”
Authorities and Chaos: A Delicate Balance
28:00 to 29:19
Exploration of the tension between authority and freedom in society.
“So I think in that way, it is, you know, the idea that we it's actually strong men make the world.”
Comedy and Cultural Backlash
29:20 to 30:56
Discussing how comedians challenge societal norms and face backlash.
“why are you willing to give up for some control?”
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Gender Dynamics in Emotional Manipulation
30:57 to 33:29
Examining emotional manipulation among men and women in societal contexts.
“Well, Jimmy Carr has a great joke about this, which is, you know, a lot of Christians complain that you make fun of Christians, but you don't make fun of Islam.”
The Evolution of Stand-Up Comedy
34:01 to 36:30
Discussion on how stand-up comedy has evolved and the challenges it faces today.
“The point about Bill Hicks is interesting, though, because the threat side I don't know about, but you do know, you must know this, that his final letterman appearance was canned.”
Richard Pryor's Influence on Comedy
36:31 to 42:00
Reflecting on Richard Pryor's legacy and impact on modern comedy.
“So I try to get their empathy and go, you know, it's because you're so, you know, you have so much empathy and compassion.”
Remembering Richard Pryor's Impact on Comedy
42:00 to 43:39
Rob Schneider shares a memorable encounter with Richard Pryor and discusses his influence on comedy.
“Yeah, and he was talking about going to prison and he was saying about, you know, I've met, you know, we've met Muslims, but in prison, they've got these double Muslims.”
The Importance of Making Fun of Everyone
43:40 to 45:06
Schneider emphasizes the need for comedians to poke fun at all groups to foster unity and laughter.
“And I like to do impressions of black people, even though it's not de rigueur anymore.”
A Critique of Diversity and Inclusion in Society
45:07 to 47:29
Rob discusses his views on diversity, equity, and inclusion, highlighting the meritocratic approach.
“So, you know, that's why you have, you don't see Filipino Jews like me in professional sports because you want to win, right?”
California's Beauty vs. Its Problems
47:30 to 49:56
Schneider contrasts California's allure with its societal issues and critiques the state’s handling of homelessness.
“He didn't say that in that interview, but, but, um, I think it is, I do think you have more opportunity for it.”
Humorous Takes on Education and Relationships
49:57 to 52:17
Rob shares jokes about teacher-student relationships while discussing societal perceptions of such incidents.
“I mean, California either has a huge homeless problem or a gigantic camping success story.”
Challenging Comedy and Cultural Sensitivity
52:18 to 55:17
A discussion on the evolving landscape of comedy, featuring opinions on Dave Chappelle and cultural commentary.
“We have a big population here, you know, and this crazy shit does happen.”
Charlie Kirk and the Nature of Influence
55:18 to 56:00
Schneider critiques how Charlie Kirk is perceived and discusses the importance of diverse voices in comedy.
“And there were protests from Netflix employees.”
Dave Chappelle's Special and Charlie Kirk's Impact
56:00 to 59:25
Discussion on Chappelle's criticisms of Charlie Kirk and their implications.
“And Charlie was an incredible, and he wasn't like an influencer.”
The Role of Sacrifice in Unity
59:35 to 1:04:23
Exploration of how shared sacrifice can create unity among the youth in America.
“And what's weird about it is you would have thought, I think, when something like that happened that people would rally around, pull together, honor his memory.”
Western Civilization and Gratitude
1:04:23 to 1:10:02
Discussion on the importance of gratitude and unity in preserving Western civilization.
“Hey Meta, any last minute tables for two tonight?”
Cultural Perspectives on Immigration
1:10:02 to 1:11:30
Discussion on perceptions of immigrants and societal vulnerabilities.
“who for 10 years, 10 years of being welfare, still stuck on welfare.”
Comparing Cultural Attitudes: US vs. UK
1:11:31 to 1:12:26
A humorous take on the cultural differences between American and British attitudes.
“I definitely think there's a blind spot with Keir Starmer.”
The Importance of American Optimism
1:12:27 to 1:14:26
Rob Schneider shares insights on American culture and the spirit of entrepreneurship.
“If I don't get arrested when I get off the...”
Reevaluating Historical Figures
1:14:27 to 1:15:40
A critique of how historical figures like Thomas Jefferson are perceived today.
“that there's no second acts in American lives.”
London's Taxi Culture
1:15:41 to 1:16:39
Discussion on the unique challenges faced by London cab drivers.
“I seem to remember him going to Paris and going to London and then deciding, looking around going, hmm, I don't like the way the streets go.”
Transcript
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2:41And I said, you know, are you okay? Mr. Snyder ain't nervous because I know her legally. So I worry that the ICE can come take me back to Mexico. You know, these are the guys we want here in this country. People working hard. Then he completely fucked up our order. And I was like, get this guy out of here. You can't fuck up lunch. That's the most important meal of the day. As soon as I got the check, I called ICE. And at table 47, gotta get over here. I'm a conservative. Well, I mean, I'm a 90s liberal, which makes me a right-wing fascist now, right? We all are now. God forbid we stick to those, you know, free speech and, you know, women's rights and things like that crazy stuff.
3:20The idea that you can silence other people just because you disagree, I mean, that has to be. I mean, I'm still waiting for the Democrats to say that's not good. I think you might be waiting for a while. California either has a huge homeless problem or a gigantic camping success story. Maybe it's both. I don't know.
3:43Francis Foster:Rob Schneider, welcome back. Thank you so much. Brother, it's only been about a year. Last time we had you on the show, it was right after the election. Yeah. Pretty much the biggest episode we've ever done. 2.5 million views. People absolutely loved it. Thank you. Very honored. It's been 12 months and like so much has happened. It's crazy. No, it seems like the Chinese, it's not a proverb, but it's basically. The curse. The curse, yeah. May you live in interesting times. We are living in very interesting times. A lot has happened since then. I think the realization is still sinking in to the liberals that they've lost power and they are not giving up easily.
4:28as the demonstrations, the no kings, leftist demonstrations, as the former Soviets called them, the useful idiots. So they're doing that. And also there's a wake-up. I mean, the fact just because the Republicans are in power that they can actually do all the stuff they want to do. It's a wake-up call to realize, you know, you can't. There's some impediments to it. Love. We can't do everything we'd like to, but we'd like to very much so.
4:55Francis Foster:Well, the only conversation you and our booker have is basically you impersonating his English accent on the phone and ripping him a new one. We all enjoy listening in as that happens. No, I just like, he just assumes like, no, I told you yesterday, we're coming at 1.30. Yeah, but I didn't agree, you asshole. No, but I said I sent you a message, which means it's going to happen automatically. I'm English. I make things happen. You still use our rules. Well, you kept the rule of law and property rights. We owe you. So when I say a message, you'll stuck with it. I mean, he's not wrong, is he? No, he's not wrong.
5:28But it is lovely, though, because I find myself to be an Anglophile. And all the best humor was that, because we didn't get the shitty stuff, you know. Truthfully, I was never, I mean, no offense, but I was never into Benny Hill. But Monty Python, I mean, you know, It's All Right, Jack, those great comedies, the Ealing comedies. I mean, that was the basis of, like, great comedy. And it's because your people were so angry, because I don't think you participated in the Marshall Plans. You didn't get banked out like Germany. so you guys were still rationing like into the into the 50s and they were pissed we won the fucking war you know so that was kind of similarly how like I just got back from Hungary and like and the war never ended there just new new occupiers came in but so so there was a beautiful thing that happened I think in English humor correct me if I'm wrong but whereas there was still like an intensity like you know after the war and all the the pressure leading up to it you couldn't wait to get rid of Churchill and then, you know, the next thing.
6:26So the comedy had an edge to it that I think led to like eventually, I think it was 61 when Peter Cook went on the footlights. And then that was, you know, John Cleese and Eric Idle, I think, were watching that night and didn't realize you can make fun of the establishment. I think he made fun of the prime minister, Peter Cook. And that was the beginning of the rise. And I think that led to, you know, to another level, the high watermark of comedy in the 20th century, English, Monty Python. Well, Peter Cook was one of our greatest ever satirists. Him and Dudley Moore, of course, had that famous partnership.
7:06But one of the things that people were taken aback with by Peter Cook at the time was how savage he was. And, you know, we were very much, no, no, these are our betters. You can't talk about them like that. That's very, And he just went in. He did not care. It was quite shocking at the time. But one of the things that I've noticed about American humor, and I love American humor, I love your stand-up, comedies are great. Ours, it's kind of the difference between heavy rock and jazz piano. Jazz piano is English. Because it's the notes you don't play. It's more subtle. It's the notes you don't play.
7:40That's where the humor comes in. Whereas Americans, you like your power chords, you know? It's a hammer. but I think I like the subtlety of both you know when you could I like telling a joke where the best thing for me when I'm doing stuff is like just let the audience go I just want to get this out of my way first to get the joke in you know I go like you know it's good to be back in California but like I had to move because you know I got little kids and it's dangerous to have kids in public school you know in California you know in the morning you drop off a girl the afternoon you pick up a boy so you just kind of get to it and then you know the subtleties of it.
8:18And again, in the same way. You know, you just get them off balance the best you can. But I'm definitely influenced by that English humor. And the way that you could it's... Hopefully it's a good combination of both. And stand-up is particularly just like jazz, which you guys stole from America. And stand-up comedy, I believe. You know, it originated... I guess you would call Mark Twain was the original stand-up humorist. And he would charge a dollar because he also would, he would get rich and go broke. And then, you know, he, there was, you know, Ulysses S. Grant had cancer, was dying. And like, you know, back then they didn't give money to the former president.
8:54So he helped him pen his autobiography so he could make money for his wife, pay for the farm, blah, blah, blah. And then he would go blow all his money, come back. And then he'd get money again by performing at like a town hall or something or a library. I don't know if there was a library. I'm just making that up. But he would charge a dollar. They talk about faraway lands like Hawaii. Yeah, no idea. They have to have over there. You got to take several weeks to get out there. But now, like, you guys can fly wherever you want and do the things. So for me, the nice joke that I could relate to was based on something that really happened.
9:30It was really fun. It was really fun. Listen to me. But I was in Vegas. I was playing Vegas. And, you know, the MGM Grand, which is a good gig on the strip. That's a good one. and I went out to lunch with the guys, the band I'm working with, and the Mexican waiter was really nervous, and I said, you know, are you okay? And he said, Mr. Snyder, there is a nervous, because I know her legally, so I worry that the AISO can take me back to Mexico. And I felt terrible, you know, and, you know, these are the guys we want here in this country, people working hard. then he completely fucked up our order and i was like get this guy you know you can't fuck up lunch that's the most important meal of the day you know what i'm saying you can fuck up breakfast dinner but like as soon as i got the check i called ice and at table 47 gotta get over here but it's um but i like it because it just plants a little seed in there you know and people can feel either way they want but i'm not you can't lecture them about stuff and that's the i would say American comedy now, we have to be careful that it, you know, we've come out of that COVID tyranny.
10:41We want to, you know, I think to, you know, which was the best, for me, the best part of Peter Cook, Dudley Moore was the silly, you know, the best money part. They were just the silliest king, as Cleese, John Cleese would say. But, you know, the one-legged Tarzan. I mean, that Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sketch, it doesn't get any better than that, you know? No. He's auditioning for the role of Tarzan. He's got one legs. I was just like, wow. It's just, you know, it shook everything up.
11:09Francis Foster:So you're saying now you fear there's a lot of seriousness creeping into comedy and kind of people are, you know, going very heavy on their opinions. I think so. And I think the audience is, I mean, I have to be careful of that too, you know, because I'm a conservative. Well, I mean, I'm a nineties liberal, which makes me a right wing fascist now, right? We all are. God forbid we stick to those, you know, free speech and, you know, women's rights and things like that. Crazy stuff. um so i have to be careful too that you know i don't fall into that easy trap of just you know throwing slop to the conservative you know masses which is what kind of late night tv was you know the late night tv you can it's there's no individual voices you can replace and go like you know jimmy kimmel could say the same joke as you know seth myers and then you could put like You know, and then, you know, the other Jimmy can.
12:00So it doesn't. The other Jimmy. So they can have. They can have. It's the same thing. It's like, what is it? Where is the point? Is there any individual voices? Right. And it's just, it's too easy. You never heard Norm MacDonald, you know, saying during the pandemic, you know, easy. You make a joke about Trump. They'll just applaud. You know, you can do that. You know, where's the, you know, where's the danger there? And I do think it's definitely more fun, but it is more dangerous. You know, I mean, they're killing. There's violence happening, you know, and so that's, we have to have gun checks at comedy shows.
12:42Really?
12:43Francis Foster:Yeah. Yeah, but why wouldn't you? I mean, we were talking not to change direction, but unfortunately we kind of have to. We were talking before we started about Charlie Kirk. I mean, that's one of the things that happens since we last saw you. Yes. I think it was a friend of yours. Charlie is irreplaceable. Charlie was such a... I mean, I honestly, as a comedian, and as a humorist, and as a real cynic, I think you have to be cynical to approach comedy. What's really behind that? So I would get these calls from him, from his organization, and then from him, saying, you know, we want you to be involved in, you know, Turning Point.
13:23And I was like, what is this 28-year-old kid? What's going to be something behind this? There's always something, you know, whatever. And I didn't realize, like, what he had built. It was this incredible organization of young people. If you want to change the future, or if you want to return the future to some traditional American values, Christian American values, then, you know, you've got to build an organization to remind people what is the potential loss of not maintaining that. So I, I, I've learned, um, pretty quickly, I was still a little, um, you know, I'm still questioning it and going, I don't know, what is it?
14:02But then I found it to be, um, really sincere and his, his, uh, his organization and his, uh, what his quest was, was to keep, um, you know, America, a, uh, a nation under God and, uh, and free. And that was a, um, a tremendous loss. I I mean, we were supposed to go, because I said to him, because it was fun. You show up at a university with Charlie Kirk. I'm telling you, the kids will come up with stuff, and they ask questions. And I really liked it. It was such a generous thing that he would do. He'd put the microphone down. I said, if you disagree with me, come to the front. And he was saying, constantly saying, when the conversation stops, that's when the violence begins.
14:44And he was right. You know, the leftists, you know, they can't beat you with debate. They would shout you down. they'd prevent you from speaking and you know this specifically you know they how dare you disagree with it um and uh that voice is silenced so i'm hopeful that that that will uh you know his his organization will continue to inspire young people um we i asked him i said uh i said well i want to i want to go to the craziest place it's here where is that i said we said what i said no I'm going to go to the craziest university where they'll be like, and he said, well, then we'll go to Berkeley.
15:25And he got, let's go to Berkeley. And then I had to go to Berkeley without him. And there was riots to stop a comedian for talking. Just a riot, literally a riot. I'm suing the University of Cal Berkeley for, I don't know what the number will be, but more than a dollar. I promise you. And that was the, and thankfully Peter Boghossian and, you know, your countryman, Andrew Doyle, was kind enough I invited them to come with me to buttress my ignorance. But there's an interesting thing about free speech. It isn't just what our lawsuit's about. It's not just the ability for you to speak freely and somebody to stop that.
16:04It's also, free speech, the other side of that, is the ability for someone to have the right to the freedom of speech to hear the speech. And that's the other side. So I think that's important because the university, they were such assholes. They insisted, Cal Berkeley Regents and the, you know, I don't know who was in charge of that over there, whether it was the dean or somebody made the decision. They said, we insist on getting 500 tickets. They would give it to this liberal organization just so that 500 people couldn't come. And then there was 500 empty seats. We could have easily had 2 ,000 people there.
16:38And then they also called people who had tickets, like friends of mine, because I'm from Northern California. Interestingly, that used to be the free speech. that's where free speech on university campus started 1964 um and uh and then they told him oh your tickets are no longer good so then there's really a riot coming in and the police coming it was just it was just unreal but um um the the idea that you can silence other people just because you disagree i mean that that has to be uh i mean i'm still waiting for the democrats to say that's not good. I think he might be waiting for a while. You know, I mean, there's some Democrats that I think have potential.
17:20Josh Shapiro, for instance, have been playing for him. I think so, yeah. You know, he talks about what the Democrats used to talk about in the 90s. He seems like a decent guy. Yeah. You think, you know, if the Democrats actually put him as, and maybe he got a little bit of a headwind, he might stand a chance. Well, I think, you know, if Americans have proved anything, they have no memory of anything. They just move on to the next thing. You know, 25 years after 9-11, you got a Muslim mayor and you have like prayer outside, which is, as you guys know, it's a form of dominance. Conversation may take a turn at this point.
17:58So we'll see. I mean, I'm still buoyant. I mean, I do think that for sure the weak leadership seems to bring about more difficult times. And I think we're seeing a reset, a global reset. And I think you're seeing with Donald Trump, I would just say to the people who, they dismiss him. I say, you do that at your own peril because it's very strategic what he's doing right now. There is a global reset happening right now with Venezuela. You know, people worried about the Venezuelans as far as that. They're going to, you know, these are people who are going to protest. They're going to say, no, no, no.
18:41Here's what you never hear about. They're Catholic. You never hear this. A Catholic guy jumped on a train and stabbed nine people today. You never hear that. You never hear like, a Tibetan monk hijacked an airplane and flew it into a building. You know, you don't hear. A Chinese woman drove a van into a Christmas market. Well, you do hear. Well, I don't even buy access. Yeah. She's looking for a parking space. That's a parking space. I know. I know. When I go on Jay Leno, he used to do that to me too. He'd figure out the joke. I said, of course you'd figure out the joke. You're a comedian. Sorry, brother.
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20:55Francis Foster:We had Jay Leno on the show, actually. Oh, you did? Yeah, a while ago. We recorded in his car garage. Oh, fantastic. Yeah, yeah, it was fun. He's an incredible guy. He's such a nice guy. He was the best comedian of his generation. And he was also really helpful. He was like, he would tell you guys, like, hey, how much time you got? I remember, like, you know, in the 80s. I said, I got about eight minutes. Good. Yeah, I'm glad you eight minutes. Most comedians add, I got two hours, you know. Who wants to hear two hours of comedy material? You know, if you don't have five minutes to kill any time, everywhere you go, you got nothing.
21:24And he was right. All you need to become a star in LA is 20 minutes. 20 minutes to become a star. And it's true. And it was just like, I mean, it seemed like a long time when you're 20. But by the time I was 24, all I had was 20 minutes. It was the most I ever had at that time. And the only other guys who had 20 minutes was like Chris Rock, David Spade. Or maybe Chris Rock had 30. But David Spade, Adam Sandler, and me, we all got on. You know, that was the beginning. You only need 20 minutes to become a star. But he was great. All those guys would be helpful. The greats. like, you know, you know, Jerry Seinfeld, one of the greatest comedians we've ever had.
21:59Just the structure, if you look at it, it looks, you could build a house on the way he forms jokes. You know, and he would say to us young comedians, because back then, they're like in the early 80s, there were like bars that they would turn into comedy clubs. And 120 seats. You know, if you do enough shows, it might look like 10 ,000 bucks. It might come off. And that was like, he would do that. By that time, by 84, I think he'd done, under 83, he'd done like 42 tonight shows. Wow. 42 five-minute spots. Wow. And then we'd watch him and the structure of his stuff was so great, you know? And he would just have like the simplicity of his thing, which was almost like an English thing.
22:37He would say a little joke like, magic is just to make you feel stupid. Here's a quarter. Now it's gone. You're a jerk. It's just a wonderful simplicity. And then after, we'd all hang out and try to get some fun. you know, some nuggets of wisdom by the master, you know? And, uh, did you? Yeah. He said to me, listen, guys, you got to take the swearing out. If you take the swearing out and it's not funny without the swearing, then it's not funny. And I was like, wow, he's right. Cause we can rely on it too much. And then I shook his hand, you know, thank you. He went to leave. I went to shake his hand and he was like it's the same hand very funny though because about it literally two years later i got on david letterman and he's such a great guy he just literally is an awesome guy he really appreciates comedy and he chased me out of the improv after i did his set just saw you on um dave on david letterman said you had balls of iron and he shook my hand i'm a really good set my life's so young people doing some stuff.
23:43And then I waited and he went to go shake my hand again. I was like, that's the same man. I didn't say it, but I wanted to, you know. But he's one of the masters. And it's really frustrating to see like a guy who's still performing at a very high level. And like there would be protesters. It's like, come on, isn't the LBGTQ plus for Hamas protested, you have to protest. Jerry Seinfeld, one of the greatest comedians who still doesn't have to do it, but he's still doing it because he loves it. So that's kind of a bummer. So we have that at the same time, but I do think that this friction and this stuff, I think the woke kind of thing is collapsing.
24:22I think people are exposed to enough of it. So hopefully it'll usher in something new. I don't know what the new thing is, but it's been an interesting time. I would say the most interesting time in my lifetime for comedy because there were people yelling at you, people like paying money to yell at you. It was during COVID too, because COVID was really cool because we have a republic over here. I strongly suggest you guys consider it. You break it. Different states, you know, that way the states would have different rules. A lot of the states went along with it, but some states hung in there, you know?
24:56So I would go to a place and they would perform and it'd be like, you know, you'd have to have, you know, somebody sitting not across from you or something. So they'd have to comedy club. And so I would just perform in those places until those places closed down. And then believe it or not, it wasn't Americans. The reason that we got out of COVID, it wasn't the Americans that figured out the protesting again. It was the Canadians. The Canadian truckers reminded Americans about protesting and a good protesting, protesting against actual tyranny, not this fake tyranny that these no kings paid protesters are, the useful idiots.
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25:30So but real protest against tyranny, which is what the COVID lockdowns were. And these, you know, the truckers that went there, what did they do? They literally closed their bank accounts. And that seemed to be, if that's not authoritarian, and calling them terrorists, that's pretty bad. But what it did, though, is it woke people up here in America to it like enough of this crap, which was good. So whether people like the COVID vaccine or not, I mean, obviously it has some problems and stuff. It's not a vaccine. It's according to Robert Malone, who invented the or co-invented the therapy. It's a it's an experimental gene therapy.
26:15So, you know, forcing everybody to take an experimental gene therapy is not good. But what it did, though, Thomas Cahill, who was the designer of it, who was asked by the Trump administration, he's a genius. You got to meet Thomas Cahill. And he what it did was it gave an off ramp like, hey, we got something. We can open up society now. Here we go. We got we got the jab. Let's go. So that gave an off-ramp to it. And I don't know if people will. It's interesting how the next, what is the next attempt at tyranny? But they've backed off this zero carbon initiative. You don't hear about it anymore, right?
26:51I mean, you do in our country.
26:52Francis Foster:Yeah. It's actually an interesting situation because in the UK, the only people who still believe in it are the government. No one else believes in it. But the government really, really believe in it. And actually, the worse things get, the more they believe in it. So they're like, oh, okay, this war in Iran is going to cause global oil prices to spike and stay up for God knows how many months. Yeah. That shows you we can't be relying on fossil fuels. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Except we still have to be relying on fossil fuels. No, it'll impoverish the whole planet. If you want to go to have mass starvation right away, go off fossil fuels.
27:27Right, right. But what Trump is doing, what President Trump and, you know, is that global reset. If you can control the oil, it's not about having all of it, but if you can control it, and then all of a sudden China has to work with you. Because unfortunately, what you really had was you can have all the sanctions against Russia and China that you want, you know, but if they're able to get oil from Iran and Venezuela, then they can circumvent all these problems. But if America has got a nice, healthy stranglehold on Iran and Venezuela, then the Chinese will have to work with us in a way that they don't want to, but they'll have to now.
28:05So I think in that way, it is, you know, the idea that we it's actually strong men make the world. I guess there's a revulsion from it, from the 20th century experience of World War Two, that anytime there's a strong man that comes up, it's like authoritarianism comes. I would just say we should be aware that when weakness happens, that's when the authoritarian comes up, as we witness under COVID. You know, it's so funny when you talk to Venezuelans about what happened in Venezuela. Because you hear people going, oh, this is a coup, this is terrible. You talk to a Venezuelan, they're like, I know, I like it.
28:38Be very good. No, no, no, we're not like Maduro. Bye-bye. Well, that's what you have to, we have to weigh, like, what, how much freedom. if you want complete freedom, it's chaos. And so we'd rather have more chaos than if you want complete control, then you'd have tyranny or something. But then you have something that was so chaotic and so out of control. Like if you look at El Salvador, that was just the murder capital, the kidnapping capital. Kids couldn't go to school. And it was just, you know, you couldn't open up a little stand and sell food without being somebody coming in. and stuff. You know, Bukele has changed that country.
29:16He calls himself the coolest dictator. And I would just go, well, how much freedom, if it's destroying your society, why are you willing to give up for some control? And that's the gaze, you know? That's the, that's what we're, that's kind of what we're looking at. But to go back to comedy, it's a very interesting time because we're talking about, you know, the woke and the backlash and they're trying to silence voices. But hasn't that always been the case? I mean, take Bill Hicks. I mean, Bill Hicks used to go to the deep South and do jokes about Christianity, laughing again, laughing about Christianity when it wasn't cool, when it literally, you know, could have endangered your life.
29:56I don't know about that. I don't know. I don't think it would have. I mean, I think it would have had protesters, just like there was protesters when the life of Brian came out, because it would just happen to do be the, um, you know, because it had to do with Christianity at all. But I thought that was consistently rated the greatest British comedy of all time. And it was hilarious. But as John Cleese and Michael Palin would say, they didn't change one word of the Sermon on the Mount. But it's just the fact that what's funny is that somebody couldn't hear it. I think he said, blessed are the cheese makers.
30:33That's funny to have an open mind to that. But I don't believe that even Bill Hickson that day his life was endangered. I think he had people who were angry at him, but not in the same way like you'll have as Ayaan Hirsi Ali says, you know, you can have the Book of Mormon, but let's see you guys write the Book of Muhammad and see how long that stays open. I'll pass on that one. Thank you. But isn't the cultural fear, the cultural fear of that, you can't even say it without thinking, oh yeah, you could never do that.
31:01Francis Foster:Well, Jimmy Carr has a great joke about this, which is, you know, a lot of Christians complain that you make fun of Christians, but you don't make fun of Islam. And he's like, well, stop blowing shit up. Then I'll not be a part of Christians either. That's so perfect. But I think though with this challenge I think it's good because what you're seeing now in the United States and what I'm talking about now in state which is I think is you have to challenge them and push them. That's otherwise it's not fun. You got to be some kind of contrarian. So it's nice talking about the interesting is happening is women like white liberal women.
31:33Here we go. I love the way you said that. It's women. White liberal women. Yeah. There we go. It's nothing to do with that I'm divorced now. It's just women. No, it's women. No, but it's that they were doing things that are against their best interest, putting themselves in danger, whereas, you know, men, you know, traditionally, that's what they do. And men have that. They're used to it. Every guy, by the time they're a teenager, you know, you meet another guy at some point. You still think a little bit like, if I have to kick this guy's ass, could I? I mean, is he going to beat my ass? If he has cauliflower ears, you go, okay, this guy doesn't care about his face.
32:10I'm going to leave him alone. It's a part of his face. He doesn't have a problem with looking messed up. But women don't have that. So I was saying that's why women put themselves in a sense of danger that they're not used to. That's what happened in Minnesota. And they said women can be emotionally manipulated to do something that puts them in danger because for the cause, that manipulation, that emotional manipulation, like this woman wasn't even a lesbian. She was like, she was straight. For the cause, she became, you know, into this, she got roped into this, become a lesbian during, you know, for the cause.
32:47And I was like, that's the difference between men and women. I don't care what the cause is. I'm not taking a dick up my ass.
32:53Francis Foster:Pretty much. So, but again, but what I try to build to the point about how women could be emotionally manipulated. And I said, you know, 85 % of white liberal women voted for Kamala Harris to save democracy, even though Kamala Harris wasn't even put in democratically. They just, you know, they just took Joe Biden out. You know, Joe Biden, basically a corpse attached to a car battery. And, you know, the Democrats still don't admit to that his brain wasn't functioning. And they just put Kamala in to save the democracy. And so the joke is, you know, replacing Joe Biden with Kamala Harris is like changing your shirt because you shit your pants.
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34:04Francis Foster:You know what? The point about Bill Hicks is interesting, though, because the threat side I don't know about, but you do know, you must know this, that his final letterman appearance was canned. They didn't publish it until after he passed away because it was too controversial. At that time, yeah, it was too controversial. You're right. So there was a, yeah, I think it was a stricter time. I think that's obviously a mistake, but I don't think it's the same kind of jeopardy as Charlie Hedboe.
34:37But any time you go up against, we have to go up against the societal, whatever the constructs are. We have to be contrarians, otherwise we're not doing our job. But it can be dangerous as far as, I mean, I have to have gun checks, it shows, and it's dangerous to leftists. you know? So, um, I mean, it's, it's nuts to me. I mean, not, not so we have guns in America. I'm all, I'm all, I'm all for it. You know, I didn't used to be, but now I understand. Do you have the audience lock their phones in a pouch? I don't do that because I don't think it matters anymore. I used to think they could get canceled, but once they've tried to cancel you so many times and you survive, you're like, what can they do to me at this point?
35:14You know? Um, and also if they want to do it, I mean, I think it's kind of a childish, I do think though, for the, you know, the guys who are making like, you know,$40 million on Netflix. They don't want to get their jokes out too early. I get that. But at this point, I don't think it's, um, I used to do that, but it's expensive. Yeah. You got to bring the pouches and then it's also pain in the ass for them. The audience is like, let them be adults. If they want to go on their phone, people are addicted to their, to their phones.
35:39Francis Foster:No, no. The reason I bring it up is, um, and it's something I think about with podcasting now as well, because what happened was you had the mainstream media, which basically thought that everyone in the world had the attention in the span of a mosquito, right? And they whittled the sound bite down to like this, right? And then the opposite is you guys. And then the podcast came along and went... But now what's happening is, and we've even had guests who shall remain nameless who'll go like, so was there a clip in that? And you just go, like, with all respect, I mean, I understand I have clips of mine, you have clips of yours going out on things.
36:13Francis Foster:That's totally cool. But it changes the... The act of making it this changes the thing. It does. And the same with standup, I think. And it's the same with like, you know, you're trying out material, recording something out of context, putting it online, all of that. That's why I was asking. No, you're right about that. Because, you know, because I do ask at some point for women to, I try to get them to a point where I'm manipulating, you know, subverting them to, you know, it's like, because they're emotionally manipulated, that you can manipulate, you know, for that. So I try to get their empathy and go, you know, it's because you're so, you know, you have so much empathy and compassion.
36:50That's why you raise children. That's why there's so many of us. You're incredible. But then I get to the point where you can be manipulated to use this empathy for people who don't deserve it. And then I ask them to reconsider their right to vote. And then I say, no, no, no, there's still plenty of things to vote for. You can still vote. I'm not saying you can't vote. I'm just saying just not for the important things. But there's still plenty of things. You can still vote for Dancing with the Stars. America's got talent. Britain's got talent. Whatever. But the idea is just to challenge them a little bit and try to get them off.
37:22And then, you know, you take some ideas. And then, you know, it's the ideas to poke them a little bit and see where they go. And so a lot of the women agree. A lot of the women, not all of them, a lot of them agree. And then some people complain. But I think it's, I think it should be a well-constructed, humorous argument. Yeah. And otherwise it's not fun. Yeah. So it's nice that they agree. And sometimes I'll screw up. Sometimes I did not do my job by getting them there because it's still kind of new. And then you go like, you know, and then it's like, I got to kind of get them back, you know.
37:53Yeah. But it's a good challenge. And then you can... Wait, how do you get a woman back once you've pissed her off?
37:59Francis Foster:Because I haven't worked that one out my entire life. I'm proof of that. Very painful. But it's fun, though, because, you know, there's some really interesting intellectuals. Jordan Peterson's been such a gift to the male spirit, really. And he had this wonderful thing that I talk about now on stage. age, it's great because I'm not going to have to interfere with him doing stand-up, but you talk to him, and I'll tell you, oh yeah, well, let me tell you, the women that we have today, they're all survivors of the barbarian hordes that came in, and the barbarians would come in to the new armies, they'd kill all the men, cut their heads off, and they'd say, okay, we're going to cut your heads off, or you want to come with us?
38:48And the loyal women who got all their heads cut off, they stayed and died next to their husband. But the ones who said, I've always been interested in seeing Germany. Let's go. Those are the ones that survived. So all, and I said, it's all the women here tonight in this audience, you are the survivors. You are the ones who left with the new husbands. And what was too far was when I'd say to them, every woman in here is a traitor. and I was like that wasn't too much but you have to try that but then and I go but it's it's fun to and then I have them my favorite things I tell the audience to look at it I want you to look at the guy guys I want you to look at the woman you're with right now just look at her tell her I know what you're capable of but anyway I don't know I mean I hope it doesn't come off like it's angry but it's it's definitely angry but it's fun and I hope it's it's a it's a challenge and to try to do things that are interesting.
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41:10New customers only, and thank you to Huell for supporting Trigonometry. But that's the beauty of stand-up comedy. I was watching a few months ago, actually, Richard Pryor's Live at the Sunset Strip. Unbelievable. Recorded in 1982 in the red suit, the famous red suit. And he was - No, I think it was earlier than that one. Was it? Live on the Sunset Strip. I think his first one was Richard Pryor Live, and it was late 70s. It was in Long Beach. Still, as much as comedy's progressed since then, it's still basically the same guy. They had a guy standing by the stage. You know, it's interesting, that first one where he had the red sweating and the thing, I'm sure, all kinds of cocaine coming through the thing.
41:50But that was still, we're still doing the same kind of thing. We're still, he was the guy, the Statue of David, we're all cheating. But what, the other one, the Live in the Sunset Strip, maybe that was 1982. It was, yeah. That's the second one. Yeah, and he was talking about going to prison and he was saying about, you know, I've met, you know, we've met Muslims, but in prison, they've got these double Muslims. And he did a bit about Islamic fundamentalists in 1982 in jail and you're going, this is what comedy is and should be. That's why he was the greatest. Double Muslims. The greatest comedy performer ever, for sure.
42:25I got to meet him once when he was doing Donahue. This is like 1991.
42:35That's when Phil Donahue before Oprah. And they said, you know, Richard Pryor's in the building. I said, what? Pryor? Richard Pryor's in the building? Where is he? he's done Donnie you know and I had uh I said go go get a comedy album so I get signed something they didn't get it in time but and I went down and you know because I was 30 Rock is where Saturday Night Live was and I was a writer performer there so like I go anywhere I want so I get the security you know Donnie's like hey can I go through it's like yeah come on in Rob and then uh his dressing room and I said I'm Rob can I get in there and I said yeah come on in there and then Pryor was just sitting there himself you know and um and I said you know Mr.
43:15Pryor that stand that first stand-up performance in Long Beach that was like the greatest stand-up we're still stealing from you all these years and he didn't deny it and and I said um that was just incredible and uh I said that's the greatest performance ever no one's gonna top that and he said to me you should have seen that shit six months later I'll just start to figure that shit out and i believed him yeah because it just grows and grows i'm sure i would have loved to have seen it six months later but then he did that live in the sunset which was good didn't have the like the danger of that first one you know so that that first one he'd make fun of white people was screamingly funny it was long beach most of the people at the show are white people and he said white people some white people don't play that shit like all right cut the shit you know and And that's the quintessential black impersonation of a white guy.
44:06And I like to do impressions of black people, even though it's not de rigueur anymore. It's not allowed. But I would say, like, my favorite people who recognize me, because people come up to you, because I'm the same size as I am on TV. My favorite are black women come up to me. Black women are different than other people, and they come up to me, because black women make you prove who you are. Tell me why I know you Tell me why I know you I'm a comedian That ain't it Tell me why So that's kind of fun So what do you say I'm a comedian That ain't it I went like no no no I am a comedian Okay But I just think it's like We gotta make fun of everybody There's one thing my favorite that gives a good laugh in the audience Because I talk about being you know my mom's Filipino my dad I don't get into that too much but I talk about being Asian and be you know it's a system of white supremacy you know we're surprised it I said how come Asians are making more money then you never hear about it because Asians don't want you to know in America Asians are no let the black and white people kill each other we're gonna hang over here we stay over here in the suburbs and um but I said you know that's what I talk about for what is you know for years saying about like we got to get rid of diversity equity inclusion if you want to have the best society.
45:28We need the best at each position. So, you know, that's why you have, you don't see Filipino Jews like me in professional sports because you want to win, right? Right? You want to win, right? And you see Filipinos, we're good nurses. That's what we do. You know, we're good at that. And usually there's a Filipino in the audience and usually they work at a hospital. If they don't, that's when I say, you know, you're not living up to your potential. And I said, and it was based on a true story. I said, I'm sorry, I don't want a seven-foot black guy. It's not racist, but I don't want a seven foot black guy trying to take blood out of my arm.
45:59You know, it's only like, shit, come on, bitch. What's wrong with you, Vane? Come on, shit, get out of there, baby. Let me see that vein. Dude, your finger's as big as my dick. Can you go find an Asian person to finish this shit? But everybody can, they can relate to that. And it's, it's fun and hopefully disarming.
46:20Francis Foster:And do you know, I miss that so much. We were talking with the young guys that work with us as well. It's just that I miss that world where people made fun of each other and it was cool because we made fun of everybody and everybody made fun of everybody and everyone knew that it wasn't malicious. Yes, no malintent. That's why Adam Sandler's film is so important. He makes fun of people, but he's not trying to hurt anybody. But I remember there used to be this bookstore called B. Dalton and right by the cash register there'd be these rows of comic, of just books, comedy books, simple jokes, that make fun of every nationality.
46:54It's like Italian joke book, Polish joke book, Irish joke book. And I just remember, you know, before you'd buy it, you'd look before you, whatever thing you're going to buy, you'd look up the Italian one. How do you tell an Italian airline? It's the one with the hair under the wings. You know, and, but that was acceptable. And then I, I'd like to go back to that, but I think we've been, um, beaten down by the people who had the most, um, you know, as, as your countryman, John Cleese said, I don't think the ones who most sensitive should be the ones deciding what everybody else gets to listen to and watch you know and he's right about that but it it was a thing but but I think I had a conversation with Jerry Seinfeld at the 50th anniversary of SNL because I I really took umbrage to what he said like listen no the woke doesn't stop you from doing comedy what are you talking about I don't believe it and I said no they do that you cancel them and they try to get you to not be on and he said no that's not what I meant I meant you just have to work harder to get around to get to your joke.
47:51He didn't say that in that interview, but, but, um, I think it is, I do think you have more opportunity for it. It's just, you don't want to get, you know, shot by a crazy fucking leftist, you know, that, that takes things too seriously. And that, that was the problem of like, you know, for, you know, for Charlie Kirk was like, these people are accusing him of racism without any actual racism. He was just asking young people to ask more for themselves and to think for themselves as opposed to being, you know, what's happening at the universities and academia is they're not teaching you to think critically.
48:28They're just cranking out advocates to a liberal agenda that doesn't have the best interests of these young people. So it was, as that's happening, I am, you know, we have to be positive. and we have to move this country forward. And that's my job. And I know the best way to do that is with jokes. If I write a good joke, I know I'm making the country better. Like this is, California is a great place because you have a lot of liberals here. And the conservatives, they don't get, and I come up and tonight it's really fun because I go, hey, it's so beautiful in California. I get it. I get it. it doesn't matter that your votes don't count.
49:13It doesn't matter because it's so beautiful. It's so beautiful in California. Maybe women do have dicks. It's so beautiful.
49:21Francis Foster:You know what? It's how we feel every time we come here. Because you know, the most common thing Francis and I say to each other when we arrive in California, spend a couple of days soaking the sun. Will I see something in the news over another side of the world? And I just go, Francis, do you give a shit about what's happening? He's like, no. And I'm like, I don't either. I know it's hard it's hard to care because it's so perfect but that said you know every time we've we've been coming here for years now it gets like less populated I mean people people are leaving I know they fucking ruined paradise man they did well they have this people who stay here go it's so fucking beautiful I got enough money I'll just eke it out break you know they can tax they want to tax you per mile on your car the Democrats because you have a super majority of Democrats so they don't want to fix any real problems like homelessness and as I've said you know publicly, I said, no, look, maybe I'm looking at this wrong.
50:11I mean, California either has a huge homeless problem or a gigantic camping success story. You have to look at it. Maybe it's both. I don't know. But they want it. They'll stay here no matter what, because it is so beautiful. Like, I'm almost retired. The kids are here. But the grievance tax, the billionaire tax, the wealth tax, or the what about me tax? Why my money, my hopes, my dreams? It's grievance. And instead of fixing things instead of fixing the homeless situation. You know, when Chairman Zeev came over from China, they got rid of the homeless in San Francisco in one day. But then it's like, ah, let them come back.
50:47Because I do think that it's disruptive. And I think in that point, the disruptiveness is necessary to cause enough strife. But California, they keep creeping up in these incremental creep to where like, I tell this joke and I got to tell you, it doesn't get as big a laugh here because it hits a nerve and the joke is pretty um i think i'm giving away all my jokes here this one go out for a few weeks so you're good tonight and we'll go well the thing is i said i remember seriously like my my grammar school the police came to our grammar school like third grade and they told the kids they said listen if anybody adult says to you you got to keep a secret between you and them anybody wants to keep a secret that's an adult between you and child that person's called a molester okay you call the police we'll come right away now that person's no longer called molester now that person is called california public school teacher and it's a people go oh and then you then i get into the yeah it's not that funny anymore is
51:51Francis Foster:that no sorry sorry i'm not having to go your joke but it's like it's kind of serious no people go yeah that is a guy yeah but it doesn't get like a and maybe it shouldn't because there really was that legislation went all the way to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court just last month said, no, no, no, no. Parents can raise their children the way that they want and not the school. It's not, you know, I didn't co-parent with the state. But that's a thing. And then you come from another place, which is fun, which is, it's a true story. It does happen. We have a big population here, you know, and this crazy shit does happen.
52:28And I don't know why, specifically for women, maybe because their relationships aren't safe or whatever, but there are these these women fragile women who uh teachers who have um sexual relationship with their students now just a woman just got arrested in new jersey last week and uh she's and here's how i feel about that in all seriousness like if a guy does it you know it takes advantage of a girl student you know that they should cut his wiener off and the wiener and him never get back together again that's it that guy's you know kicked out of society however if a female teacher decides to provide some extracurricular activity for her male students off school grounds i just i just remember the 80s you know remember hot for teacher that song i remember every movie you know weird science all the movies is about this i just feel this way you know respectfully i like that all i knows if my classmate called the cops before I get a chance to get my blowjob.
53:35So do you know what? As a former teacher, I don't agree because she should be having sex with me. Not the fucking kids. That's the way I feel about the other teachers, like the science guy, the gym coach. I was available. My dick was available. I was ready for.
53:50Francis Foster:Yeah. That'll be the clip from this episode. I was, my dick was available. I'm here slugging it away. I have a crap salary. I'm trying to get these fat kids in shape, and this woman could have decently had a relationship with me. Yeah. But I do think, though, out of context, like that one might be problematic. You're for pedophilia? Well, you know, it's a joke, but it's also, you know, it doesn't seem to be. But that's just it, though, that there can be, you can get umbrage about anything. But I think the joke should be, you know, like to me, like it's why Dave Chappelle is such a master. Because he said something that, like, I would have never gone there.
54:32But comedians who do, because when he said the joke about, like, these guys are complaining about getting molested by Michael Jackson. What? A lot of people are molested. How many people could say they got molested by Michael Jackson? And I'm like, wow. That guy's a genius. Yeah. You know? And he gets away with it, of course, because, you know, there's something beautiful about that joke. Well, Chappelle was the guy who helped break Woke. I don't think he gets enough props, actually, because when he came out and he did the special, I think it was called The Closer. Yes. And we've also got to give props to Ted Sarandos and Netflix.
55:06Yeah. Ted, I've got a book coming out soon. We can work together. No. But genuinely, because what happened was, do you remember the protests? And they were saying that we need to take down The Closer. It was transphobic. And there were protests from Netflix employees. They should have fired every one of those employees. You get your, hey, I'm sorry you don't like it. You know what? You don't have to watch it. You know what? You can do this thing. Turn it, or you can turn it down. Or here's another thing, you can find another job. Sorry, but you know, I understand, you know, Ted is a great guy and he's doing, trying to do the right thing.
55:40And he did stand up for the most part for Chappelle. I mean, he did then later apologize, if you noticed. I didn't notice the apology. Yeah, he did, but Ted's great and I love you, Ted. And seriously, you're the greatest. but I think I'm 100 % behind you but I don't mean to but I'm going to the Dave Chappelle last special that he did where he he shit on Charlie Kirk to be honest with you I thought it was terrible honestly like because he was talking about the comparisons to Martin Luther King and say hey whoa whoa whoa that's not Charlie There's other people that did this. And Charlie was an incredible, and he wasn't like an influencer.
56:29That's totally, that's a guy who, with all his largesse and his incredible success and his incredible, you know, he is, you know, our greatest comedian in America. But I think, though, that largesse has managed to keep him in his own gigantic, successful echo chamber. Whereas Charlie was just trying to get kids to talk. He wasn't an influencer. He was a Christian, a Christian who wanted to bring people closer to Christ. He was someone who was a nationalist and a Christian. He's a Christian nationalist. No, he was a Christian and a nationalist, a Christian first. He was a believer in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, my Lord and Savior.
57:10I'm a Christian as well. Now, but he's also a nationalist. Now, nationalism has this thing where I don't like the negative connotations to it. Yes, nationalism, if you're trying to expand your nation, that can be bad. We need more room. We need to Sudetenland and half of Poland. In its expansion, it can be a negative thing. But if you're trying to protect your nation, nationalism is required. So I didn't like that description. And I would just say that Charlie Kirk wasn't like these other leaders. That's the thing that was to me, I'm still wrestling with it. you know, six months, seven months later, he wasn't like RFK.
57:55He wasn't like Martin Luther King. He wasn't like JFK. He wasn't like these leaders who did amazing things. And in my mind, I was like, well, God needs people who have these flaws that should do things because they're risk takers. They can put themselves out there more than others in a way that could be beneficial to society, you know, God's plan, whatever. And Charlie Kirk was an exception because he didn't have those that he didn't have those flaws in his personality. He was just a genuinely incredible guy. And and I think that that's an exception that I, you know, that I didn't see coming. That is a gigantic loss for us.
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59:35Francis Foster:And what's weird about it is you would have thought, I think, when something like that happened that people would rally around, pull together, honor his memory. But I saw you making some jokes about some of the people who are having a go at his wife, claiming she's involved. I mean, what do you make of all that? Well, I think if the right, if the conservative movement can do anything, it can try to destroy itself. And so anytime it gets, we got power, how do we ruin it? Well, there is a divisiveness happening because there is a void. Charlie, that void and people trying to take it and fill it, and sometimes in the negative way.
1:00:16And I do think there's a negative thing happening, and it happens with any group that would take power. The liberals obviously abused it, and now it's the conservatives' turn. But there is a certain ugliness. There are people that are, you know, there's my our good friend frank turek uh who's was charlie's biblical scholar because i i i was i had a um a public speaking um engagement with uh charlie's um beautiful wonderful wife erica who's taken over the organization it's not something she wanted something was thrust upon her and she's doing um and i had a conversation so i asked frank i said what are the you know, give me some help here, some biblical, you know, points of interest that I could bridge in the conversation.
1:01:10And he brought up Exodus 22, 22. He brought up Deuteronomy 19. Basically, he talks about how God will protect and seek vengeance on those who take advantage of the fatherless and the widows. And it was very powerful. And so I think you're seeing that. I mean, I think if evil is anything, it's a degradation of something good. So it's, um, you know, something beautiful, like lovemaking and man and a woman and the, the sacred thing that could be degraded into pornography, you know, beautiful sanctity, God's marriage divorce, you know? So I think also, you know, a pride in country, um, a divisiveness, to divide it into sections instead of uniting people together.
1:02:02I think to divide it would be an evil way to degrade that. So I think we're seeing that as well. I hope people enough will look for the good in it. And I think that luckily there's so many instances of Charlie speaking and listening to young people that I think you, I think it's a, hopefully we'll continue because we need it. He was personally responsible for, I mean, along with Elon Musk freeing up Twitter for a 22.5 % bump in young people in the election. That's unbelievable. So we'd like to maintain that and keep the young people, because this is their country. This is your, you know, it's for you.
1:02:48It's like your nation, the young people. It's up to them. So we want to preserve it and do the best we can to pass it on. And at this point, it does require sacrifice. It does require you to put yourself out there. And you have to go against the cultural hordes. And you have to go against sometimes the tyranny that's at bay. And it's interesting because if you look up Robert Schneider right now, there's a lot of hate and stuff online. Because I think we should, this is something that's controversial, but I think we should reinstall the military draft. And for sure. I mean, a lot of other countries do it.
1:03:21I mean, I would say many, many countries do it. We used to do it here. Because what it would do is be a cohesiveness again, a union, and bring people together because, you know, there are no separate religions in Foxhalls, no separate beliefs, there's no party affiliation. It's just we're all in this together. And I think we need to, for one, get kids in shape, get people, you know, to realize for young people that they need to, freedom comes with eternal vigilance, but it comes with sacrifice. And if you just, you know, I took my kids to Rome, We went to the military cemetery outside Rome, the United States Military Cemetery, and we said, this is the ultimate sacrifice, is what Lincoln said.
1:03:57You know, this is the final, he described it as the last full measure of devotion for our country. And that is, you see, that guy's 19, this guy's 26. This is the lieutenant colonel. He died here for our freedoms. This is what the sacrifice is. So I do think it does take a shared sacrifice, and I hope that we'll be able to do that in It'll accomplish a unity that we do need with young people. Introducing Meta Glasses. Hey Meta, any last minute tables for two tonight? Sure, there's a great Italian restaurant 15 minutes away. Hey Meta, where's the nearest flower shop? Five minutes away, straight down Broadway, past the bodega.
1:04:39Their lilies are trending on Instagram. Just saying. Hey Meta, am I forgetting anything else? How about setting a calendar reminder for next year? Metaglasses, available in more than 20 styles That's a concern Is that we do seem to be more and more divided And maybe we do need something like this Something to come in and go Look, if we can't achieve it naturally We need an artificial policy to come in and help people Especially when people are on their phones Yeah, I think so I think if you can bring people together Regardless of whatever money they have Regardless of where they came from Here's another thing that it'll do If you have, no one is excluded out of this.
1:05:19So if you have a senator's son, if you have, you know, Mark Zuckerberg's kid, it's going to, everybody's going to think twice about putting these kids. Instead of a selective service or, you know, instead of just somebody volunteer service, you have this, this selective service where you, you have to join. It's going to make people and leaders and hopefully the public think twice about any foreign wars because it's not just some other kid's kid. It's your kid. And I think that that will be a positive thing for foreign policy as well. You'd have to really think, is this really in our national interest to do this?
1:05:49Is it really? You know, and so I think that that mitigates some of the negatives of it. Like, I don't want to have to go two years, fuck that, you know. And I do think it'd be good to get kids off their phone. It'd be good to get kids united together as one nation. This divide that's happening, this multiculturalism, this diversity, it's just, it's all a ruse to divide. And I think we need to unify. If we're going to continue to keep this country going, if we're going to continue to have Western civilization going, there are some pretty darn good things to Western civilization that we're saving.
1:06:25Rome, London, Londonistan, or whatever you guys call it now. But what are your ideas to save Western civilization? What are our ideas to save Western civilization? Wow. I think number one is getting people to be grateful for what they have. I think we live in a place where we are permanently anti-gratitude. I think social media, Instagram, really worsens that, exacerbates it. You go on Instagram, you're like, well, I don't have that. Why don't I have a yoke? Why don't I... Yeah, there's a grievance. Yeah. Envy.
1:06:58Francis Foster:Yeah. Which I think most people experience at some point, but the trick is to convert it into aspiration. That's what I mean about the United States that I think was so unique. It's what you have here. Even still, even now, you have an aspirational culture. You do. And it's, you know, because I remember when I was in England in the 90s, I remember hearing somebody saying something. You know, the difference between your country and mine. I think I did an Aussie accent. Or they like more of a Cockney one, you know. I love that London has four different accents. Just London itself. That's because these people didn't go over here.
1:07:33But I remember saying, like, you know, the difference in the United States, generalizing, this is from England. It was an English guy. In the 90s. don't attack me uh but in america like if a guy's driving a pickup truck and he sees somebody but he's driving by the cadillac so man someday i'm gonna drive a cadillac just like that dude but in england it'd be like some guy's uh driving a pickup truck and some guy goes drives by the bentley someday that asshole's gonna drive a pickup truck just like me fucker fuck yeah you rich fuck you know so i don't know is that is there anything to that that's entirely accurate yeah
1:08:11Francis Foster:We talk about it all the time, man. And it's only when we came to America, we actually realized that we thought we were just weird in England. And then we realized, oh, we just have the attitude that most people in America have. It's why we love coming here. And it's not the shit on Britain. Britain's an amazing place. But the one thing that we lack in the UK that we try and bring back with our team and the way we do trigonometry and the people we talk to is that. Which is like, go for it. If you don't have what you want, go for it. Don't blame other people. Don't point your finger. The opportunity is thanks.
1:08:47Francis Foster:Thank God for the internet. The internet is there now. Just go for it. Go make it happen. You can. You can. That's why I think it was so frustrating for the Democrats. They lost this one when Oprah Winfrey's like, it's a system of white supremacy. You may never get to vote again. It's like, shut up. You're a black woman who's a billionaire because of this system that you're shitting on right now. It's just ridiculous. It's absolutely hypocrisy to its zenith. And I think people saw that. You know, and I think it's a good thing. But I want to keep progressing and kind of going back. And I think if anything, there's a cycle that kind of comes back.
1:09:24And I would like to see that cycle come back with the sense of young people taking pride in their nation and in the culture that they have. It's beautiful. Because I remember the difference is the hordes that came in back up until 1921 in immigration. They came in from Poland, they came in from Italy, they came from Ireland, and they came with a flag. We are all American. We don't all speak English, but we're going to be a flag. We're American. And they came and they gave to the culture and the culture took from them and it was an exchange. As opposed to, you know, what's dangerous is people coming into the culture that are taking more out and not putting in.
1:10:01So we have these Somalians who've been here for, not to pick on Somalians, but I'm going to pick on Somalians. who for 10 years, 10 years of being welfare, still stuck on welfare. And it's a, you know, it's a different system. And, you know, you don't realize, I mean, seriously, the most gullible people in America, Minnesota, God bless them. But then I remember I was doing comedy there in the 80s and they go like, I was getting gas with our, you know, our car. In fact, we didn't even rent a car. This comedian's got a car he's going to drive and I'll pay for gas, whatever, you know. And then they said, oh, you can pay with a check if you want.
1:10:37What are you guys, morons? People just bounce a check. That would never happen in California. But in the 90s, they're still paying checks at gas stations. And I went like, these are very vulnerable, gullible people. If any Somalian ever gets over here, they're going to rip this people blind. But yeah, we have to be careful of people who don't come in with... That's what we're susceptible about in a free society. People coming in who are bad faith actors. They don't really want to come in to be part of the society. They want to come in and abuse the society and take as much out as they can or have no part to do with it.
1:11:13Just kind of separate, or even worse, conquer your society. That doesn't sound like people who are good faith. And I think people are waking up to that. So I think with that in mind, the bad faith actors, we just need to recognize them because I do think there's a blind spot in the West. I definitely think there's a blind spot with Keir Starmer. I think for sure he's got a huge blind spot for this, you know. And I think it's happening in the West, but it was interesting to see with Viktor Orban, and hopefully by the time this comes out, he'll have his victory there. You know, I think it's a culture, each individual culture in Europe is worth saving and it's worth having a representation and having a sovereignty.
1:11:58And that, I think, is the most important issue now. So you are a white supremacist. I'm an absolute white supremacist. I'm a white supremacist in a system of white supremacy. And I look forward to benefiting from it. Filipino white supremacy. Favorite kind. Keeping the non-Filipino Jews down as low as it is. Suppressing the others.
1:12:19Francis Foster:Rob, always great to see you, man. Thank you. I'm glad we got to catch up a little bit. There's still so much more to talk about next time. I'll come over there. Yeah, come over to the UK. If I don't get arrested when I get off the... Yeah, we'll get arrested. We'll get you bailed and we'll take you for a curry. That's right. What were some of the impressions you got this time as opposed to your last visit? I mean, this is very superficial, but it's hard to get past. Before we came, we had 60 consecutive days of rain in Britain. So it was nice to see the sun. Okay. Yeah. I know this isn't interesting to anybody but us, but it's the only thing I can think about right now.
1:12:55What else has been there? Do you know what? And we've touched on it, but I just love it. I'm like, you talk to American, and they go, so what are you doing, man? What's going on? Tell me. And you're like, oh, well, we're thinking about doing this. And they're like, sure. Instead of the UK, it's like, no, mate, don't fucking do that. What's the point? Don't bother with that. Do you know? Yeah, just stay in your lane, be miserable, get on the antidepressants, fucking kill yourself. Job's a good one. And it's nice coming here because people are like, you say I want to do this and they go, sure. Well, you guys are welcome.
1:13:29we welcome you as political free speech refugees from your country.
1:13:34Francis Foster:Well, one other thing as well, and I think it ties into this, is like in Britain, you don't know this, but our studio is a little outside of London, one of the studios that we use. It's a hard thing to get people to drive half an hour. Here, people will... We just had someone on the show, we were like, where have you come from? And we're in California. We should have said, actually, we're the Irvine Improv here in California. We're filming in LA. Where have you come from? Florida. He just flew all the way across the U.S. to do our show. In the U.K., we can't get any fucker to drive half an hour, basically.
1:14:05Francis Foster:So it's that attitude and that cultural, aspirational, go-get-it mentality that's just infectious. And that's what we love here. And that is something you guys have that's so precious. And I hope you hold on to it, because it is what made America what it is. America loves to build people up. They also will tear you down. But it's a weird thing where the French will say that there's no second acts in American lives. But I'm hopeful. I think there are. And I'm living it. So we'll see. I'm excited about what the future holds. I really, really am. But I do think it's going to require some vigilance and some people to be proud and say, I'm proud of America.
1:14:45This is an incredible accomplishment. I mean, it really pissed me off when you go to, like, a friend of mine called me, you know, producer, Hollywood producer. He calls me up and he said, I got to tell you, I'm pissed off. Can you talk to somebody in the Trump administration? Everybody thinks I can just talk. Oh, yeah, I'll get on the phone. Can I talk to Trump? Oh, is this the Trump administration? Because you're conservative. You're like, can you get Trump on the phone? It's like, no, I can't. But he said, I was just at Monticello, Thomas Jefferson, the third president of the United States. This guy, the Declaration of Independence is incredible.
1:15:13And here's what they say. The guide, he said, welcome to Thomas Jefferson's home, third president and slave owner. Like, that's the second thing he's saying? That's the second thing you say? I think he did more than just that. So I do think there's like a, we have to wrestle back our history. It's pretty darn good. You know, I seem to remember Thomas Jefferson doing a lot more than just being a slave owner. I seem to remember him going to Paris and going to London and then deciding, looking around going, hmm, I don't like the way the streets go. Let's not do that in the States. You know? He was an inventor as well.
1:15:51Yeah. Yeah, but he's one, we're on a grid. when you drive back you can thank Thomas Jefferson because you're going straight you're not making up there's a little I like the little I do I like the little windy roads can I ask you a question a serious question I'll leave you there how terrible do you feel for the guys who had to learn the knowledge and they don't have to anymore and it's all the guys you're talking about
1:16:11Francis Foster:London cabbies yeah yeah the black cabbies you see them driving in the 90s they were still there driving around with the big blue book on a bicycle learning the knowledge of how to get around in London because it's impossible to get around in London now they don't have to do that, right? Yeah, they still got to do that. They still? Yeah, they still got to do that. And the thing is, because London's not the grid system, it's got these nooks and crannies, so you still go there. Yeah. And it's great to chat with the black cabbies because, you know, you'll sit down, they'll be like, Mike, it's not what you fucking used to be.
1:16:37They're not actually black, necessarily, just for the American audience.
1:16:40Francis Foster:They're talking about the black taxis. The more you explain it, the worse it's happened. There's a yellow taxi. Yellow taxi. They're the ones that always crash. Anyway. I'll come see you over there. on your side of the pond. If they let me in. They will let you in. We will. We'll have a word with Keir. Great to see you, my brother. Great seeing you, and thank you for all your incredible knowledge and your contribution to the culture, and to especially right now, is needed and welcomed, and I appreciate it. You guys have been great for me. Well, that's very kind. We did it all handshaking, but we're actually going to go to Substack, where you're going to answer questions from our audience.
1:17:17Francis Foster:So that's going to happen. So we'll shake hands one more time. Go to triggerpod.co.uk where Rob's going to answer your questions. And you're going to see more handshakes.
1:17:29Rob, as a supporter of Israel, why do you think so many famous people, including now Sean Ryan and Joe Kent, believe that Israel controls President Trump? And what can be done to reverse this point of view?
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