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Voices for Justice - Episode Summary: Heidi Planck
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Episode Overview
- Title: Heidi Planck
- Release Date: [Insert Date]
- Host: Sarah Turney
- Podcast Description: Voices for Justice is a true crime podcast that aims to be a voice for victims of crime, highlighting their stories and advocating for justice.
Case Summary
- Disappearance Date: October 17, 2021
- Victim: Heidi Planck, 39 years old
- Event: Heidi left her son’s football game at halftime and was reported missing after not returning home.
Key Details
- Last Seen:
- Heidi was seen after leaving her son’s football game in Downey, CA.
- Surveillance footage captured her walking her dog, Seven, outside a luxury high-rise apartment building called Hope and Flower in downtown LA.
- Bizarre Clues:
- Seven, Heidi's dog, was found wandering alone on the 28th floor of the apartment building shortly after she was last seen.
- Surveillance footage showed Heidi entering the building, but there is no footage of her exiting.
Investigation Highlights
- Initial Concerns:
- Heidi's ex-husband, Jim Wayne, became concerned when she did not pick up their son from school.
- Friends noted her unusual behavior and the abruptness of her departure from the football game.
- Missing Persons Report:
- Jim filed a report after multiple failed attempts to contact Heidi.
- Tracking Devices:
- Attempts to track her GPS and electronic devices were hindered as they were turned off.
- Significant Developments:
- A friend of Heidi's, Natalie John, discovered security footage of Heidi outside Hope and Flower, establishing a timeline.
- Investigators obtained a warrant for surveillance footage from Hope and Flower after initial cooperation was denied.
Theories & Accusations
- Federal Investigation:
- Camden Capital Partners, where Heidi worked, was under investigation for financial scandals, raising questions about potential motives for her disappearance.
- Drug Use Speculation:
- There were claims that Heidi may have been involved in drug use, particularly relating to Adderall, with conflicting accounts from friends and family.
- Theories of Death:
- Investigators theorized that Heidi may have suffered a medical episode after potentially using drugs and was then disposed of through a trash chute in the apartment building.
Search Efforts
- Landfill Search:
- A massive search was conducted at a landfill, but no evidence was found relating to Heidi's disappearance.
Current Status
- Legal Declaration:
- Heidi was legally declared dead in February 2022.
- Calls for Action:
- Jim Wayne has continued to advocate for information regarding Heidi's case, urging anyone with knowledge to come forward.
Community Impact
- Vigils and Awareness:
- Heidi's family and friends have organized vigils and awareness campaigns to keep her story alive.
- Random Acts of Kindness:
- In honor of Heidi, her loved ones encourage the public to engage in acts of kindness as a way to remember her.
Conclusion
- Ongoing Investigation:
- While significant progress has been made, there are still no named suspects, and the case remains open.
- Call to Action:
- Anyone with information is urged to contact the LAPD Missing Persons Unit or LA Regional Crime Stoppers.
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Additional Information
- Contact for Tips:
- LAPD Missing Persons Unit: (213) 996-1800
- LA Regional Crime Stoppers: 1-800-222-TIPS (8477)
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- Website: [Voices for Justice Podcast](https://VoicesforJusticePodcast.com)
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- Host Socials:
- Sarah Turney: @SarahETurney on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook
Closing This episode highlights the heartbreaking case of Heidi Planck, a mother missing under mysterious circumstances, and the ongoing efforts to uncover the truth behind her disappearance.
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Transcript
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1:13Voices for Justice is a podcast that uses adult language and discusses sensitive and potentially triggering topics, including violence, abuse, and murder. This podcast may not be appropriate for younger audiences. All parties are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Some names have been changed or omitted per their request or for safety purposes. Listener discretion is advised. My name is Sarah Turney, and this is Voices for Justice.
1:46Today, I'm discussing the case of Heidi Plank. She left her son's football game at halftime and was never seen by her family again. What followed was a trail of bizarre clues. security video from outside a swanky high-rise apartment building in downtown LA, a missing dog found wandering alone, and a company tied to a massive financial scandal. This case is truly a tangled web of information, but at the heart of it all is a woman, a mother, who still needs to be found. This is the case of Heidi Plank.
2:26It's just before 7pm on Sunday, October 17th, 2021 in downtown Los Angeles. A labradoodle named Seven is found wandering alone in the halls of the 28th floor in the luxury high-rise apartment building, Hope and Flower. But luckily he's not alone for long. While his owner isn't anywhere in sight, a couple sees Seven and takes him in. They do what I hope most people would in this situation. They take him to the vet to get him scanned to see if he's chipped, and it turns out that he was. They get his owner's information and text them, but it's radio silence on the other end. Now, either this couple was just extremely kind, Seven is an amazing dog, or both, because they keep him for three days before someone comes forward to claim him.
3:15That someone is a man named Jim Wayne. And this is where the couple's life really changes forever. because when Jim comes to pick Seven up, he explains that Seven's owner, Jim's ex-wife Heidi Plank, seems to have been missing for three days now, since the day they found Seven. Now, I'm gonna keep calling them the couple because their names haven't been released to the media. And really, I can't blame them for wanting to stay anonymous because this case, Heidi's disappearance is highly suspicious and it does include some powerful people. But I'm getting ahead of myself. This couple is stunned when they find out that Seven's owner is missing.
3:55Not only because it's obviously a very sad and strange turn of events for just two good Samaritans trying to return this dog to his owner, but also because of the heightened security measures in this particular building. Hope and Flower is named for the intersection it's located at, and it's in a pretty upscale part of LA. It's considered to be a newly revitalized area. It's essentially two skyscrapers with amazing views of the city and really the best amenities. The Ritz-Carlton is right there as well as some of the most popular entertainment venues. And according to this couple, it was outfitted with some pretty strong security measures.
4:32They tell Jim that to get to the 28th floor where Seven was found, whomever he came with had to use a keycard to get in the main door. Then you have to get past a security guard, then use a keycard again to get past a set of double doors. And once you finally make it in the elevator, you have to use the keycard again to get to your specific floor. They also maintained visitor logs and had numerous security cameras. So essentially, this couple tells Jim that they should be able to track whoever brought Seven to the 28th floor pretty easily. It's a huge break in Heidi's case. One that Jim will say really jump-started the investigation into looking for her.
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6:3139-year-old Heidi Plank was last seen on Sunday, October 17th, the day her dog Seven was found. Earlier that day, she was seen leaving her townhouse in the West LA neighborhood of Palms. The surveillance system on her home captures her walking out of her front door with Seven, turning around to lock the door, and getting into her gray Range Rover. She's wearing jeans, a white top with a smiley face on it, with a gray sweater tied around her waist and sandals. She's also carrying a cell phone, what looks like coffee in a cup, and she has a black crossbody purse on. And it seems like she's appropriately dressed for her destination.
7:09She and Seven are headed about 20 miles away to Downey to see her and Jim's 10-year-old son play in his football game. She's seen by several witnesses at this game, including Jim. Now, Jim and Heidi have been divorced for nine years at this point, but he says he could tell that something about Heidi was just off that day. He and Heidi were sitting on opposite sides of the field, but Jim sees her walking up in the stands then back down to the field kind of away from where the game was being played. He's described her behavior as antsy and says that she was obviously distracted by something. Then at halftime she came up to Jim and said that she had to go.
7:49Heidi didn't say where to and Jim didn't really push it but he remembered asking himself where she was going and what she could possibly have to do on a Sunday that would take her away from their son like this. Jim clocked this as odd immediately, but Heidi didn't have their son for another three days, so he kind of just brushes it off and continues watching the game and eventually takes their son home. As for Heidi, well, we don't know why she left the game either. Some of her friends have speculated that she might have left to run an errand for her boss, but that can't be confirmed, or if it has, it hasn't been shared with the public.
8:26But her friends know that her job as a financial controller at Camden Capital Partners was very demanding. Like, your boss says jump and you say how high type of demanding. So when Heidi's friends hear about her abruptly leaving her son's football game, it's not really shocking to them. While everyone says that she was an excellent mother, they assume that she was just once again dropping everything to take care of an errand for her boss. And this isn't the last trace of Heidi. She communicates with her son that night. It turns out he won his football game, so they were talking about the game and Heidi congratulated him on his win.
9:02But at some point that night, Heidi stops communicating and misses a call from her son. On Monday, October 18th at 7.31 p.m., he texts his mom, quote, Can you please call me back? I've called you two days in a row and you haven't picked up. The following day on the 19th at 3.43 p.m., he texts her again. Quote, please call or text me because I want to make sure you're okay and I'm worried about you. Immediately after, he texts again, saying, quote, and can you tell my dad if you'll pick me up tomorrow or not? At 5.45, he texts again, quote, can you please call me? At 6.32 p.m., Jim texts her too.
9:46He says that their son is very worried about her, hasn't heard from her, and that he hopes that she's okay. Ten minutes later, their son texts Heidi again. He asks for her to call him and says that he misses her. Now at this point, again, we're at Tuesday night, Jim says that he was definitely worried. But like I told you earlier, Heidi's son wasn't due back with his mom until Wednesday. So Jim figures that there's no way she'll miss picking him up from school. But she does. On Wednesday the 20th at 3.05 p.m., her son texts her again, quote, can you please call me? I'm with my dad. He also texts her again later, saying that he hopes that she's okay and that he loves her.
10:29It really is just heart-wrenching to read these texts, and at this point, Jim knows that there's no denying that something is seriously wrong here. He and their son go right from the school to the West Los Angeles police station to file a missing persons report for Heidi. And according to reporting by LA Magazine, at the same time, one of Heidi's friends went to her home to check on her. Heidi's Range Rover was not in the driveway, and her dog Seven was nowhere to be found. But nothing appeared to be out of place inside. Nothing appeared to be missing, and it didn't look like there were any obvious signs of a struggle.
11:03But they did find her work cell phone and laptop. It looked like Heidi never came back home after leaving the football game. The following day, Jim began calling Heidi's friends, her boyfriend, and her boss. He also asked the police to perform a welfare check at Heidi's home, but again, she and Seven weren't there, and nothing appeared to be out of the ordinary. Jim is really doing the legwork at this point. He also goes to Heidi's home on multiple occasions, and begins trying to access her electronic devices to see if he can track her whereabouts. He starts with Heidi's Range Rover, and when he goes to the LAPD to ask about this possibility, the detective assigned to her case tells him that the GPS feature was never turned on and Jim sees this as immediately suspicious.
11:51He asks the detective if someone had disabled it and they tell him that they can't tell him that, only that it wasn't turned on. At this point, Jim's like, okay, what about her iPhone or her Apple Watch? Surely you can track those but it appears that the location tracking on those devices were not on either. In his interview with Dateline's Missing in America podcast, Jim says he felt like someone was trying to cover their tracks. He believes that some of these tracking services may have been intentionally disabled. He's basically banging his head against the wall at this point. He has a son turning 11 in a few days, and his mom is nowhere to be found.
12:35And there doesn't appear to be any trace of her after she left that football game. He's still calling friends and family, trying to piece together whatever he can. And then he has this epiphany. There's one more thing they might be able to track. Seven. The dog Heidi took with her everywhere. He figures seven has to be chipped. Now, obviously, there's no major directory of dogs by name or owner to look up a microchip. He has to either find this information somewhere in Heidi's home or at her vet. So Jim really takes a shot in the dark and calls his vet, thinking maybe Heidi used the same one. And he lucks out big time.
13:15Heidi does use the same vet. He calls and asks if he's microchipped. And the vet confirms that yes, he is chipped. So Jim's like, great. He gets all the information and calls the company the microchip is registered with. He's trying to add his contact information in case Seven is found. But that's when they tell him that Seven was lost but had already been found by someone. Now, I told you earlier that a friend found Heidi's laptop and her work cell phone in her home before the police did the welfare check. And apparently, Jim kept those items for about a week before turning them over to police.
13:51and according to reporting by NBC News, Heidi's phone got a text from the couple who found Seven trying to reunite him with Heidi. It was the couple from Hope and Flower. This is when everything starts to come together or at least when pieces of this puzzle begin to emerge. Of course, Jim goes to the LAPD to tell them about this but it was one of Heidi's friends that works for the next major breakthrough in her case. That friend's name is Natalie John. She's also the godmother of Heidi's son. Once she discovered that Seven was found at Hope and Flower, she hit the ground running passing out flyers in the area, trying to get media coverage for the case, and asking local businesses in the area to review their security footage for any sign of Heidi.
14:36And then she saw it. A local business had captured Heidi on camera outside of Hope and Flower. After leaving her son's football game, Heidi was seen on video outside of the luxury apartment's Hope and Flower at 6.22pm. She's in an alley right next to the building, and is basically just walking seven. Or at least it looks like she's walking seven. You can see the video for yourself on our website, VoicesHerJusticePodcast.com. But this is what I see. She's in the same outfit she was wearing at the game. But she doesn't have all the same accessories on. In the video, she's clearly missing the gray sweater she had tied around her waist and the black crossbody purse she was wearing earlier.
15:22But everything does seem fine. She doesn't seem upset, she's not running from anyone, it just looks like she's walking her dog. And that's really it. But this is crucial, because the couple reported finding Seven just 30 minutes after Heidi was captured in this video. Again, obviously Jim and Natalie tell the police all of this information, so the LAPD goes to Hope and Flower to request access to their security footage, and the owners tell them no. They were not willing to cooperate in the investigation in any way at this point, so the LAPD goes to a judge and returns with a warrant. That's when they finally confirmed that Heidi did enter Hope and Flower with Seven.
16:09So sometime between 6.22 p.m. and about 7 p.m., Heidi goes into Hope and Flower, and somehow Seven gets loose on the 28th floor while Heidi is nowhere to be found. That is a tight window. But an absolutely critical piece of evidence in this case is that according to reporting by KTLA 5 News, investigators have this footage of Heidi entering Hope and Flower, but they do not have any footage showing her leave. Nothing from Hope and Flower, nothing from the nearby business that captured her in the alley, there is nothing to prove that Heidi left that building. It's just chilling. So of course, investigators want to know why Heidi was at this random apartment complex, but just like we don't know why Heidi left her son's football game, we don't really know why she was at Hope and Flower either, at least not for sure.
17:06Jim says that as far as he knew, Heidi didn't have any connections to the building, and their son said the same. Now, while investigators are trying to find out why Heidi may have been at Hope and Flower, there are a few more developments. On October 26, Jim files for full custody of his and Heidi's son, and he wins. He argued that Heidi was missing and was seeking sole custody to enroll their son in therapy. It's really through these court documents that we learn a lot about Heidi's last communication with her son that I told you about earlier. Just three days later on the 29th, federal investigators and detectives from the LAPD serve search warrants on Heidi's home.
17:47There's actually a video of this, or at least them entering. They go in literally guns drawn. According to reporting by CBS Los Angeles, a source told them that they went in expecting to possibly find Heidi deceased, which is one reason they may have gone in ready to find some type of dangerous situation. But there's also something else that I haven't mentioned yet. Now, I told you that Heidi worked as a financial controller at Camden Capital Partners. What I haven't told you yet is that they were under investigation when Heidi went missing. And according to reporting by LA Magazine, the address registered for the company was Heidi's townhouse.
18:27And if that wasn't scary enough, public records showed that Heidi was the only employee listed. This case really is a tangled web, so stick with me here. Let's discuss this company and what we know about it. Camden Capital Partners has been described as a small investment advisory firm, and like I said, Heidi said that she was the financial controller. She'd been working there since 2017, so about four years before she went missing. But according to Jim, Heidi just wasn't qualified to be a financial controller of any company. It's not that she isn't smart or capable, it's just a very high-up position that she didn't have experience for.
19:06She'd never held a position like that previously, and didn't have a degree in accounting and wasn't a CPA. He also says that the only explanation he had for the high-end lifestyle that Heidi was living in LA was that her boss quote, floats her money when they close a deal, end quote. So who is this boss? Well, the managing partner was a man named Jason Sugarman. Heidi's friend Natalie said that Heidi went above and beyond for Jason Sugarman, doing everything from picking up his kids, collecting money, handling his taxes, and his LLCs. She was basically his right-hand person. But things weren't going so well in the office before Heidi went missing, and they really hadn't been for a while.
19:52The SEC charged Sugarman and his business partner, Jason Galanis, with securities fraud in 2019, and now in 2021, they were under investigation again. Jason Sugarman was essentially accused of defrauding his clients. In one instance, it was reported that he was accused of defrauding a Native American tribe's pension fund, reportedly taking up to$43 million, according to reporting by KTLA 5 News. So this is a huge deal. The company was officially under federal investigation. Now, we know that the LAPD had access to security footage from Heidi's townhouse, and not only did they find video of Heidi leaving before the football game, they also found footage of Jason Sugarman at her home after she was last seen on October 17th.
20:42Now, unfortunately, reporting does differ here, but within a few days of Heidi going missing, he's seen ringing her doorbell, and he's holding a box of pastries. Obviously, no one answers, so he just leaves the box on her doorstep. Why he does this is just another mystery in this case. But Jim says that Jason Sugarman really wanted whatever company property may have been in Heidi's home, specifically a company laptop, which would make sense for a man being investigated like he was. Jim says that on the day Sugarman left the pastries, his assistant called him again to ask about a company laptop that may be inside Heidi's home, and according to Jim again, said specifically that Sugarman believed that there was sensitive information on it.
21:30They also said they believe Heidi may have fled with some of the company's money, which I guess would warrant a visit with pastries. I can't piece those things together. But for the record, Jim does not believe this, and said he has a hard time in general believing that Heidi would steal like that. Either way, Heidi's disappearance is now pretty much also linked to this federal investigation. So really, it's just another layer as to why the LAPD may have come in guns drawn with warrants to search Heidi's townhouse. And they do end up finding and taking at least one company laptop found inside, along with some files and boxes of undisclosed evidence.
22:10We also know that they dusted for fingerprints. But as far as we know, not much else has come of that, or if it has, they haven't told the public. But then, a few days later on November 4th, there's another huge breakthrough in the case. They find Heidi's Range Rover in a place that no one could have expected. About two weeks after Heidi Plank went missing, her Range Rover was found in an underground parking garage a few blocks from Hope and Flower on November 4th. But what, if anything, was found in or around it is unclear. I know I keep saying it, I'm sorry, but that's the truth. I mean, I have to imagine that they did some type of forensic testing on it.
22:56But again, if they have, they haven't disclosed that to the media. According to reporting by NBC Los Angeles, detectives found and quietly impounded it to search for more evidence. And this was a big day for Heidi's case, because while none of this was known to the media at this time, they were also back at Hope and Flower looking for more evidence related to her disappearance, and they find something huge. But again, none of this is revealed for a few weeks, until detectives with the LAPD's Robbery Homicide Division told the public that forensic evidence was found inside the Hope and Flower apartment building that led them to believe an incident occurred which resulted in Heidi's death and that they know one or more individuals who were in the apartment building that day know what happened to her.
23:49While obviously it's great that there's been progress in the case, It is the worst possible outcome for any missing persons case. Jim is asked to meet with detectives in person where they break the news to him that they do not believe Heidi is alive. But they do believe they might know what happened. This is what they say. Based on their searches of the building, conducting interviews, and reviewing surveillance, they're able to piece together the following theory. They believe that on October 17th, Heidi went to Hope and Flower with Seven to either attend a party or to possibly buy drugs. Then she suffered some type of medical episode, possibly from ingesting a drug laced with something like fentanyl, and died.
24:34They believe it's likely that she was then placed into an upper-floor trash chute that went to a dumpster and trash compactor on the ground floor. It's just heartbreaking, but really all they can do is move forward. They are able to track this dumpster because it had GPS on it. So they were able to track down the exact dumpster and when and where it was emptied. This led them to the Chiquita Canyon landfill in Castaic, California, about 40 miles outside of downtown LA. And there was a massive search effort in this area. They had dozens of detectives sifting through thousands of pounds of waste.
25:13There were also agents from the L.A. City Department of Public Works, L.A. City Fire Department, the County Medical Examiner Coroner's Office, the Sheriff's Department, and they were assisted by more than 60 experts. They also brought in teams of cadaver dogs. But in the end, nothing was found related to Heidi.
25:37It's so hard to see cases like this, where they have extremely compelling evidence but just can't move forward. So Jim appeals to the public for help. He speaks at a press conference at the end of November. And he really just says that. The LAPD knows that one to maybe even five people know what happened to Heidi, but they haven't come forward. And he feels like his only option is asking the community for help. Jim asked people to call the hotline set up for Heidi, and reiterated that callers can remain anonymous. He says that at this point, he's talking to the LAPD every day, sometimes upwards of six times a day.
26:15And when he's asked about this major new development, this is what he says. It's really difficult, guys.
26:28Because we all cared for Heidi a lot.
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26:34I'm her ex-husband and I'm doing this. We have a child together.
26:41An 11-year-old boy needs some answers. The family needs some answers. The friends need answers. Everybody's kind of left in the loop with no answers. I do understand the building downtown that the police have focused on. The building owners and the property managers have been very helpful with the police department. But we still need some answers. He added that he's heard a lot of chatter about why Heidi may have been at Hope and Flower. but like us, he still doesn't have any concrete answers. Jim also mentions that he doesn't know who might want to hurt Heidi, but he adds that he's just her ex-husband, and they've been separated for nine years.
27:43Basically, everything he's doing is for their son. Now, throughout the press conference, Jim reiterates his trust and confidence in the LAPD multiple times. He says that they've been amazing, and he's sure that if there's something to find, they will find it. It really seems like the LAPD knows what happened to Heidi Plank. They just need someone to come forward with more information to piece the rest of it together, and really to make a conviction in this case. Now, I do want to talk about some of the things that Heidi's loved ones have said about her and her history in relation to these claims that she was possibly buying drugs.
28:21Her friend Nicole says that she never saw Heidi use drugs, only that she saw her take her prescribed Adderall, and she did not believe she was abusing it. She added that if Heidi had been going to some type of party or social gathering at Hope and Flower, she thought she would have changed before doing so. Just a small detail that I thought was worth adding. Her ex-husband Jim, though, tells a different story. He agrees that Heidi did use Adderall, but says that she had multiple prescriptions for it and was basically doctor shopping and paying in cash to get more pills. It's also worth noting that past family court documents allege that Heidi did have a history of substance use disorder, specifically with Adderall and opiates.
29:05And the theory that Heidi may have gone to Hope and Flower to purchase something like Adderall and died shortly after gained even more traction at the end of 2022. On December 27th, 2022, a former resident of Hope and Flower named Brittany Stilwell filed a lawsuit against the city of Los Angeles. the owners of Hope and Flower, and several others. Now this lawsuit talks about a lot of things, like alleged harassment, unlawful evictions, and even some type of scheme with COVID-19 rental assistance payments. But the reason I'm telling you about this is because it also contains multiple mentions of a body being found in a trash chute at the apartments.
29:46Stillwell claims that on or about October 17, 2021, she saw with her own eyes a group of people grabbing Heidi's body out of the 28th floor trash chute after it had reportedly gotten stuck. And according to this lawsuit, she recorded it. Not only that, the complaint says that one person in this video was identified as an officer from the LAPD. Stillwell says that she believes that Black Market Adderall was being manufactured and distributed at Hope and Flower, and she believes Heidi was there that day to purchase some. And you guys, there's more. She says that officers from the LAPD were at a 40th floor penthouse, acting as security for a party that was centered around illegal gambling.
30:34Now, she says that she reported all of this to the LAPD and to the owners of the apartment complex, and on October 26, 2021, she was told that Heidi's disappearance was not related to Hope and Flower, and that what she probably saw was just some influencers filming some type of skit for Halloween. The lawsuit goes on to say that after she threatened to put up a ring doorbell camera outside of her apartment, Hope and Flower threatened to terminate her lease. She also said that she's been threatened, harassed, and humiliated by on - and off-duty LAPD officers due to these incidents. It's a lot. That's a big accusation.
31:15It's a lot of accusations in there. And as far as I could find, the claims against the city of LA were dismissed without prejudice. But it appears that some of the other claims are still being argued in court. Now, that's really where all that stands. It's a big question mark with a lot of accusations. There's more that I do think is important to tell you about that doesn't really mesh with the theory that Heidi died from some type of accidental overdose. Jim has said that before Heidi went missing, she appeared to be scared about the scandal at her work with Jason Sugarman. He specifically cited that she was nervous that she was the person who, according to the IRS, would have been responsible.
31:53I think even more concerning, though, was that Jim has also stated that Heidi's boyfriend at that time, Naeem Salam, told Jim that the very weekend Heidi vanished, she texted him saying that she was afraid and asked him to come to LA to stay with her. Now, could Heidi have just been afraid to get arrested? Maybe. But was she afraid of something bigger, something more? I think it's possible too. Now, it doesn't appear that her boyfriend was involved in any way. But I know you guys are probably curious about him. At that time, he lived in the Bay Area and was the vice president of Facebook's philanthropic organization called Chan Zuckerberg Initiative.
32:35He says he wanted to be with Heidi that weekend, But he was busy with work. And for the record, for what it's worth, Jim has said in multiple interviews that he is a very nice man. For the most part, he's rarely mentioned in Heidi's case. Unlike Heidi's boss, Jason Sugarman. In 2023, he was ordered to pay$10.2 million for his involvement in the scandal. The SEC and Sugarman later settled. And he never had to admit any wrongdoing. However, he has since been barred from association with any broker, dealer, investment advisor, etc. Essentially, he's barred from continuing his business, but he does have the right to reapply for re-entry in 2026.
33:17Heidi was not implicated in this scandal. And as of recording this episode, no suspects have been named in Heidi's case. And that's pretty much where the case is today. In February 2022, Heidi Plank was legally declared dead. Jim and Heidi's other family and friends have continued to raise awareness for her by holding vigils, putting up billboards, and launching a website, findheidiplank.com, which brings me right to our call to action. Heidi's case is truly one of the more complicated cases I've covered on this podcast so far, but her loved ones are still fighting for answers and for justice so please share obviously someone out there knows something and it's time that they come forward now they've also asked that the public continue heidi's legacy by performing random acts of kindness in her honor so that's my second call to action if you feel so compelled please do some type of random act of kindness to honor Heidi's legacy.
34:20Whether that's paying for the person behind you in the drive-thru, giving someone a sincere nice compliment, or making a donation to an organization in need, I think it's a beautiful idea to try to make this world just a little bit better in Heidi's name.
34:42As a reminder, 39-year-old Heidi Plank was last seen on October 17, 2021, at the Hope and Flower Apartment Complex in Los Angeles, California. Authorities do believe that she is deceased and that one or more individuals know what may have happened to her. She was five foot three with blonde hair and blue eyes and she weighed approximately 120 pounds at the time that she went missing. Anyone with information is asked to call the Los Angeles Police Department Missing Person Unit at 213-996-1800. If you'd like to remain anonymous, you can also call the LA Regional Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.
35:28But as always, thank you, I love you, and I'll talk to you next time. Voices for Justice is hosted and produced by me, Sarah Turney, and is a Voices for Justice media original. If you love what we do here, please don't forget to follow, rate, and review the show in your podcast player. It's an easy and free way to help us and help more people find these cases in need of justice.
36:12Thank you.
36:43Welcome to the Secret After Show. The studio door is open, and our emotional support puppies Popcorn and Heber are in the room. Let's talk about the case. Like I said, this one was really, really tangled, but also feels very clear, if that makes sense. It was just, um, there were a lot of different things to present when it came to her history with the job scandal with Hope and Flower. I mean, the lawsuit itself was like hundreds of pages. Absolutely insane. But it is, I feel, a very solvable case. It feels very obvious that they know who may have been involved and how many people may have been involved.
37:26I mean, they have to know. Using key cards, there has to be so much information in this case that they are not telling the public. I just really hope, because it is, you know, somewhat newer, it only happened a few years ago, that they will finally be able to make a conviction sometime in the recent or in the near future, I should say. But on to media discrepancies. There were a few that were difficult to navigate, a lot with the dates. And I did address that in the episode. And also, like, which laptop was found when? When did Jim turn in the laptop? And I'm sure Jim has all those answers, you know what I mean?
38:03And maybe it doesn't matter that much. Those are just things that I like to get right. But it was, yeah, it was difficult to follow in the media for sure. But this case did get a decent amount of media coverage. And I will say that Jim was involved in a lot of it, which did make it easier. You know, but this is Jim like telling his story. And it makes total sense that he doesn't speak in a timeline like I'm looking for, right? On this date, this happened. And this item I had at this time, that makes total sense to me. So unfortunately, there were quite a few media discrepancies in this one. But in the end, like, when I was in doubt, I just went to Jim.
38:43And I will say that his interviews were incredibly helpful in creating this episode. Which brings me right to the heroes of this episode. Of course, one is Jim. You know, for him being the ex-husband, I feel like, you know, they get a lot, they get a bad rap sometimes. And, you know, I'm not gonna lie, rightfully so. but you know Jim really was the the propelling force in this a lot of the time he's not the only one but he certainly was in the media a ton he was really pushing this forward and it was just I mean really heartbreaking to see him keep going out there and keep fighting for Heidi. The next year of this episode is Natalie for finding that security footage of Heidi in the alleyway.
39:28That really gave a concrete timeline for this case. And again, I think like Jim, it was one of those things that just pushed it forward. I just love it that she like hit the pavement and started, you know, passing out flyers and talking to business owners and that she got this footage, which brings me to our third hero of this episode. Unfortunately, I do not know their name, but whoever it was at that local business that allowed Natalie to look at that security footage without a warrant. Unlike Hope and Flower, which I will say, like, sucks on their part for not giving it up without a warrant.
40:06Shout out to this business. I think that that is wonderful. It really, it like gets me emotional. I think it's such a beautiful thing that somebody can just walk into a business and be like, hey, like, here's a flyer. My friend is missing. Can I check out your security footage? And whoever it is, they're working, you know, maybe the owner, maybe an employee we don't know. It's just like, yeah, sure, like whatever I can do to help. I love it. I love seeing a community come together and that's why those three make our heroes of this episode. Now let's go on to our segment of hope. This one is local to me and from last month, June 2025, I am reading from 12 News and the title reads, a five-year-old and his dog wandered into the desert.
40:52Here's how he was found. This article was written by John Tenette, by the way. And it goes on to read, tragedy was averted last week when search and rescue teams successfully found a little boy that had wandered into the Arizona desert with his dog. And I will say around the end of June, our temperatures were climbing to like 115. So thank goodness he was found. But it continues to say on Sunday, June 22nd, someone called the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office to report that the five-year-old had disappeared and could not be found, according to a post from MCSO. Deputies were able to track the boy down with the help of their canine bloodhound, Piper.
41:37And you guys, they have a video. You guys know how I am with dogs, especially, and little kids being found. it says body cam footage of that night showed the moment that deputies found the little boy standing in a stand of scrub brush i don't know what that is um deputies also found that the boy's dog had stayed right by his side the boy was found shortly before 11 p.m and fortunately was quickly reunited with his family so you guys we have not just one dog but two dogs his dog that stayed with him the whole time, and then Piper the bloodhound who found them. It is a short story, but sweet, and in the face of what we covered last week with two kids going missing into, you know, possibly the wilderness, and then this week where there was a dog that was such a crucial element in this case, it just felt only appropriate for our segment of hope.
42:33If you haven't, if you've been considering adopting a dog, please adopt. They are amazing and will change your life. but as always thank you I love you and I'll talk to you next time
From the publisher
On October 17, 2021, 39-year-old Heidi Planck left her son’s football game at halftime and was never seen by her family again. What followed was a trail of bizarre clues, security video from outside a swanky high-rise apartment building in downtown LA, a missing dog found wandering alone, and a company tied to a massive financial scandal. But at the heart of it all is a woman, a mother, who still needs to be found.
Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Heidi Planck is urged to contact the Los Angeles Police Department, Missing Persons Unit, at (213) 996-1800 or 1-877-LAPD-24-7 (877-527-3247). Anyone wishing to
remain anonymous should call the L.A. Regional Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (800-222-8477).
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