In short
The disappearance of 66-year-old June Goodman from Snowflake, Arizona on March 28–29, 2003, and the investigation into possible suspects and theories, including her connection to the prominent Flake family and a possible link to another missing neighbor.
Guest backgrounds
No guests are interviewed in this episode. The host is Sarah Turney.
Key claims
June, a USPS mail carrier and widow, failed to show up for work and didn’t answer calls. Her home appeared undisturbed: valuables and shoes were inside, but the back sliding door was open and the TV/floodlights were on. Searches found no footprints/sock prints. Investigators publicly named Patrick Michael Kahn, a dangerous former mail-route confrontation suspect tied to a 2002 murder, but they never connected him conclusively to June’s disappearance. A similar 2000 disappearance of neighbor David Reed Wasson is discussed as potentially related.
Notable examples
June bought four candy bars at Ed’s Market; Kahn threatened to kill her; Kahn was later apprehended in Ohio (2003) and sentenced for child molestation and Donald Sewell’s murder.
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Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Disappearance of June Goodman
1:50 to 3:06
An overview of June Goodman's case and the mystery surrounding her disappearance.
“All parties are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.”
Timeline of Events Leading to June's Disappearance
3:06 to 6:34
Detailed account of the day June went missing and the initial search efforts.
“on Saturday, March 29, 2003 in Snowflake, Arizona, and 56-year-old Pat Fawcett is trying to call her older sister, 66-year-old June Goodman, but she's not answering the phone.”
Investigation into June's Last Movements
10:33 to 12:19
Discussion on the investigation and timeline of June's activities before she vanished.
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Theories on June's Disappearance
12:19 to 14:02
Exploration of various theories regarding what happened to June Goodman.
“There's nothing outside of her home to indicate that she was attacked by an animal or anything else.”
The Historical Context of June Goodman's Disappearance
14:02 to 17:50
Explore the historical ties between June Goodman and her family's legacy in Snowflake, Arizona.
“But before we dive into that, I want to talk about June's family, because many people believe it could play a factor into her disappearance.”
Investigating June's Disappearance
19:46 to 22:20
Delve into the details of the police investigation and key suspects in June's case.
“We've gone over the circumstances of June's disappearance.”
The Case of Patrick Michael Kahn
22:21 to 28:00
Examine the troubling history and actions of Patrick Michael Kahn, a prime suspect.
“On February 11, 2002, police were called about a vehicle found crashed into a tree off Highway 77, about a mile north of the Cottonwood Wash Bridge.”
The Hunt for Patrick Michael Kahn
28:00 to 28:54
Learn about the urgent search for Patrick Michael Kahn after he was ruled out as a suspect.
“and Patrick Michael Kahn was white, 6 '3 and over 250 pounds.”
Investigating June Goodman's Disappearance
29:30 to 38:19
Explore the extensive investigation into June Goodman's case and its connections.
“After law enforcement in both New Mexico and Arizona realized that a man caught and held on shoplifting charges was not Patrick Michael Kahn, they were on the hunt to find him.”
The Tragic Stories of June and Dennis
38:20 to 41:26
Uncover the haunting tales of June Goodman and her neighbor Dennis Wasson.
“It seems that despite being the only name suspect in June's case, investigators are split on whether or not he's actually responsible.”
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Search for Alyssa and Reflections
43:40 to 46:52
The host shares experiences from the search for Alyssa and acknowledges the organizations involved.
“the studio door is open, and our emotional support puppies, Popcorn and Heber, are in the room.”
Case Discussion: June Goodman
46:52 to 54:50
Exploring the case of June Goodman, highlighting media discrepancies and details of her disappearance.
“Had to do a little reset, but I am here.”
Transcript
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1:37Voices for Justice is a podcast that uses adult language and discusses sensitive and potentially triggering topics including violence, abuse, and murder. This podcast may not be appropriate for younger audiences. All parties are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Some names have been changed or omitted per their request or for safety purposes. Listener discretion is advised. My name is Sarah Turney, and this is Voices for Justice.
2:09Today I'm discussing the case of June Goodman. In a small town like Snowflake, Arizona, history lives in the names people carry. Some families helped build the town, shaped its institutions, and remained deeply embedded in its power structure for generations. When June Goodman disappeared in 2003, her case didn't just leave behind one haunting mystery, it opened the door to many. Was she the victim of opportunity? A known predator? A dangerous secret? Or a connection to something or someone much closer to home? June was 66 years old, A widow, a mail carrier, a grandmother, and a great-grandmother.
2:53By all accounts, she should have been safe in the quiet rhythm of small-town life. But disappearances like this don't happen in a vacuum, and in June's case, there are far too many possibilities to ignore. This is the case of June Goodman.
3:12It's 7 a.m. on Saturday, March 29, 2003 in Snowflake, Arizona, and 56-year-old Pat Fawcett is trying to call her older sister, 66-year-old June Goodman, but she's not answering the phone. They had dinner the night before at Pat's house, so it's been less than 12 hours since they last spoke. It's just not like June to not answer, but Pat doesn't think much of it. Until she gets a call shortly after 8 a.m. It's not June returning her call, though. It's the Snowflake post office where June has worked as a mail carrier for the last 20 years. Pat's June's emergency contact, and June didn't show up for work this morning.
3:53She also didn't call in, which is extremely unusual for her. Not only is June an excellent and reliable worker, but she also usually gets to work early, so a no-call no-show is definitely cause for concern. Pat wastes exactly no time and immediately gets in the car and drives over to June's house. It's a ranch-style home on Concho Road, set pretty far back from an extremely rural highway east of the city center of Snowflake at the end of a quarter-mile-long, winding dirt and gravel road. So it's a pretty isolated area, but it's far from new to June. She's been in this home for about 25 years, and has been alone in it for about two and a half years since her husband John passed away in October 2000.
4:39It's also worth noting that outside of her home, the town of Snowflake is a truly rural Arizona town. It's about three hours northeast of Phoenix, and it's small, about 6 ,000 people, spread out, and extremely tight-knit. So June is a 66-year-old widow who lives alone with her dogs in a rural area who didn't show up for work and isn't answering her phone. Pat is taking this very seriously. But unfortunately, when she gets to June's house, it's not what I imagined she was hoping for. When Pat finally makes her way up the driveway, she sees June's USPS work van parked in its normal spot. Her personal vehicle was with her daughter who needed to borrow it.
5:21It looks like June made her way home from dinner last night just fine. So far, none of this is out of the ordinary except for June just not being at work. But the outdoor floodlights were still on, which is unusual for them to be on during the day. And when Pat goes into the house, she can hear something. But it's not June. The TV's on. On the counter is June's purse, and her billfold was there too. But the back sliding glass door is open. Now, Pat can't see any sign of a struggle. Nothing seems to be broken or even disturbed. And all of June's valuables are still in the house. Everything from her jewelry to her shoe collection was all accounted for.
6:07And her dogs were still there too. The scene really seems to paint this picture that June watched TV the night before, got up, turned on the outdoor floodlights, walked out the back door, and never came back. I mean, everything is there except for June. So Pat immediately calls the police to report her sister missing, and the search for June began that morning. Now, Snowflake is a desert landscape, so you have to watch out for things like cactus, snakes, scorpions, coyotes, and even mountain lions. But it's also directly north of the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest, so there's a possibility of seeing a black bear.
6:51And I think there's this common misconception that everywhere in Arizona is hot. So I just want you guys to know that March in northern Arizona is cold. On this particular day, the low was below freezing at about 24 degrees, with a high of only 46 degrees. So it's a rough climate with predators, and it's cold. Which also means that June could have been out there somewhere facing the same dangers as the searchers. One theory I've seen proposed in June's case is that she was watching TV in her recliner in front of her large picture window, when either she saw someone coming up the driveway or her dogs began barking at something.
7:31She goes outside to check and see what it was, and she was attacked by something or someone. But of course, that is just a theory. Investigators, helicopters, members of the sheriff's posse, professional trackers, and tracking dogs fanned out for miles in every direction surrounding June's home. But they don't find anything. According to reporting by Mark Schaefer for the Arizona Republic, they don't even find a footprint, or sock print since all of June's shoes were found in her home. Commander Larry Dunnigan with the Navajo County Sheriff's Office said, quote, When Mrs. Goodman walked out that back door, it was like she disappeared into thin air.
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10:4466-year-old June Goodman has seemingly disappeared without a trace from her isolated snowflake home. Nothing is missing, but the back door was left open and the TV was left on. It's as if June was interrupted by someone or something and never made her way back home. So investigators get to work building the best timeline they can of June's last movements. According to reporting by Mark Schaefer for the Arizona Republic, Pat says that when she last saw her sister the night before, they spent about two hours discussing the future, specifically their retirement plans. June was planning to retire from USPS in July after 20 years.
11:22She was really just a matter of weeks away. This, and June's love for her family in general, lead Pat and the rest of her family to believe that she wouldn't just leave her life without telling anyone. But back to the timeline. Their dinner lasts from about 6pm to 8pm. Then at 8.25pm, June is recorded at Ed's Market on Main Street, where she buys exactly four candy bars. But after that, they don't know. Like I told you, June's work van was at her home, but there's no confirmation that she was the person who drove it there. However, we do know that according to Pat, it was parked in its usual spot, which combined with none of her shoes being missing, leads investigators to believe that she likely made it home that night without incident.
12:10And they quickly assume that June was met with foul play. They just don't know how, by whom, or maybe by what. There's nothing outside of her home to indicate that she was attacked by an animal or anything else. Like I said, they didn't find a single footprint or sock print around her home or in the desert surrounding it. This part really stunned me, so I looked up how long prints in the desert can last. If it's a little wet and muddy, tracks would last for weeks, apparently in some cases for centuries. But that doesn't appear to be what we're dealing with here, where I'd imagine that they'd find prints from June going into her home after getting back from dinner in the market, or tracks going out her open back door.
12:54I mean, some indication that she entered or left that house. So, I'm not an expert, but I think that we can safely eliminate those conditions as a possibility. But if the dirt near June's home is like many areas of the desert, if it wasn't very compact, and there was a decent amount of wind, tracks could disappear in a matter of minutes. That goes for both footprints and tire tracks. Now, while I was able to find the basic temperature forecast for March 28, 2003, I was not able to find any information about the wind, so I can't say for sure that there were likely tracks that were quickly blown away.
13:33but it does feel more likely than June being magically teleported out of her home somehow. But again, that is just a theory. Which is largely what we're left with, because it doesn't seem that investigators have anything solid. If they processed her home forensically, that information hasn't been released to the public. Of course, they do speak with Pat and the rest of June's family to start building out their list of potential persons of interest. But before we dive into that, I want to talk about June's family, because many people believe it could play a factor into her disappearance. To do that, we need to go all the way back to the 1800s when the town of Snowflake was created.
14:17Snowflake, Arizona is one of those towns where the local history isn't background noise. It was a settlement built around a family, shared religious heritage, and dense intergenerational ties that made the community feel both deeply rooted and deeply connected, and also possibly made June a target. So let's get into it. As many of you probably know, Arizona became the 48th state in 1912, but 34 years before that, in 1878, a man named William J. Flake led five families into the Silver Creek Valley. He'd bought the Rancho Rio Plata, and was a part of a broader effort by leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to establish colonies across the Southwest.
15:01Later that same year, LDS Apostle Aratus Snow made a visit to the settlement, and the new town was named by combining their surnames Snow and Flake. So, obviously, from the beginning, the Flake family was woven into the town's identity, and Snowflake was laid out in the traditional City of Zion pattern. This is basically large square blocks and unusually wide streets. In other words, Snowflake was not only founded by Mormon colonists, it was physically designed to reflect their ideas about community, order, and permanence. So in the town of Snowflake, the Flake name isn't just a surname on a mailbox.
15:37It's embedded into the town's origin story, its civic institutions, and its local identity. So it'll probably come as no surprise that William J. Flake's descendants remained prominent in the area for generations. And by the late 20th and early 21st century, two of the better-known public figures carrying that name were Jake Flake and Jeff Flake. At this point, you're probably wondering what any of this has to do with June Goodman. Well, Jake Flake and Jeff Flake are her cousins. So let's dig a little bit deeper into these modern connections. Jake Flake was born and raised in Snowflake. He was a rancher, businessman, and a major figure in Arizona state politics.
16:21He was elected to the legislature in 1996, served eight years in the Arizona House, including two years as Speaker of the House, and then served in the Arizona Senate until his death in 2008. He also served on local school boards, irrigation boards, hospital boards, and agricultural organizations. He was really the kind of politician who grew out of the town rather than merely representing it. But Jeff Flake is the nationally known member of the family. He was born in Snowflake in 1962, named in part for his great-great-grandfather, and later served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 2001 to 2013, and then in the U.S.
17:02Senate from 2013 to 2019. So even though Jeff Flake's career became national, his public identity was still closely tied to the little town his family helped found. And Jeff and Jake were also related to each other. Jake Flake was Jeff Flake's uncle. So this family's political presence stretched from the Arizona state capitol to Washington, D.C. By 2003, when June Goodman disappeared, the Flake family name already carried real weight in Arizona politics. So all of that is really the heart of the Snowflake backdrop. This was a town literally named for the Flake family, physically shaped by the religious colony they helped establish, and socially defined by multi-generational family networks that remained visible well into the 2000s.
17:50June Goodman's story sits inside that larger history. She disappeared from a place founded by her extended family's ancestors, in a town where the Flake name had become political, historical, and symbolic. Her case isn't only a missing person case in rural Arizona. It's, in a very real sense, a rupture inside of one of Snowflake's oldest and most recognizable families. One second, you're finally cleaning out the gutters. The next, the fire alarm blares from inside. Smoke billows out the kitchen window. These are the wake-up calls that happen daily. In one second, everything can change. ADT knows that nobody wants to feel unsafe or unprepared for an emergency, especially in their own home.
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19:54Now, let's get into who the police investigated. In total, they report looking into about 40 people early on, but they and June's family have only publicly discussed a few. When investigators speak to Pat, she tells them about a local handyman who June hired to repair her TV about a month before she went missing. But apparently, after taking the TV to repair it, he returned it to June still broken. When June followed up, he asked to come back to take a look, but she refused to let him into her home and told her sister that he made her uncomfortable and uneasy. So that's our possible person of interest number one.
20:31June's family also mentions another publicly unnamed man who wanted to pursue a romantic relationship with June, but she rejected him. They theorize he may have taken June against her will. That's really all we know, but that's our possible person of interest number two. Now let me tell you about the man who has been publicly named as a suspect, 44-year-old Patrick Michael Kahn. Kahn was on June's rural mail route, but it seems that at some point in early 2002, he stopped complying with their policy requiring official designated street addresses. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a city girl and this confused me, so I looked it up.
21:13Apparently, in some rural areas, people would use descriptors of where to deliver mail instead of an exact street address. So like, deliver to the big blue house at the end of Main Street, as opposed to 123 Main Street. Most of you probably already knew that, but if you didn't, there you go. So when this policy changed, again about a year before June went missing, Khan was upset that he was no longer receiving mail at his home, and he approached June on her mail route, and they had what's really only been described as a large confrontation. June did make an official report about this to her supervisor, but it didn't end there.
21:51After that, Khan went down to the post office, and in front of many witnesses, he threatened to kill June. So you can see why police publicly named him as a suspect. Pat also confirmed that June discussed this with her and was deathly afraid of this man. And I can see why. Not long after that, in February 2002, Kahn was named the prime suspect in another case, the murder of 46-year-old Snowflake resident Donald Eugene Sewell. So let's go through it. On February 11, 2002, police were called about a vehicle found crashed into a tree off Highway 77, about a mile north of the Cottonwood Wash Bridge.
22:38When emergency responders got to the scene, they found Donald Eugene Sewell in his car deceased. Investigators concluded that he'd been shot 13 times. He was trying to drive away when he crashed. Pretty quickly, they narrowed their sights on Patrick Michael Kahn. It seems that Donald was shot with a Russian-made semi-automatic pistol. While the gun was never found, witnesses reported that Kahn tried to sell the exact model of gun shortly after the murder. They also found shell casings at not one, but two former properties owned by Kahn that matched those found at the crime scene. And just like June, two witnesses reported seeing a confrontation between Donald and Kahn not long before the shots were fired.
23:22And one witness later identified Kahn in a photo lineup. The motive was quickly identified. The men did have a history of bad confrontations with each other, and apparently, Kahn thought Donald was a police informant, quote, trying to get him, end quote. But when investigators approached Kahn, he told them he didn't have any negative history with Donald, and suggested that he was killed by a police officer. Now, while they were building the case against Kahn, he allegedly exposed himself to passing motorists while he was being searched by police during a traffic stop. He was later charged with possession of marijuana in this incident.
24:03But that's far from all. Buckle up, this is a long story. Not long after, he was arrested on many other unrelated felonies, including kidnapping, aggravated assault, and seven counts of child molestation. So this is a very dangerous man. However, he was released on his own recognizance in August 2002. It looks like county prosecutors didn't provide Kahn's attorney with certain requested audio and videotapes, and they failed to abide by his Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial. In Arizona, the law says 90 days. So the prosecutors know that they're not going to meet this deadline, and their options are either to have the entire case dismissed or to have the evidence deemed inadmissible.
24:52So instead, they release him without dropping the charges. A few months later, on October 30th, he was convicted of one count of child molestation. But he wasn't present for that. He ran. He didn't show up for that or a hearing for his two other cases. He has a lot of pending charges at this point. But not to worry. In November 2002, the Navajo County Sheriff's Department was contacted by officials in Española, New Mexico. They said they had him in custody on shoplifting charges. According to reporting by Donna Rescorla for the White Mountain Independent, Commander Larry Dunnigan at the Navajo County Sheriff's Office told the media he'd sent an officer to retrieve Kahn and bring him back to Arizona, and that Kahn had been booked into a Department of Corrections facility in Winslow, Arizona, within Navajo County.
25:46But a few months later, a judge ordered Kahn to go to the Navajo County Jail so he could attend a case management conference on his two other cases. And when the hearing starts, the judge is told Kahn wasn't at the jail. Now, Kahn's attorney was also very upset that his client had been taken into the DOC in the first place before he was even sentenced, so the whole thing is a mess to begin with. But somehow, it just keeps getting worse. They find out that Kahn wasn't at the DOC facility in Winslow either He'd never even been extradited from New Mexico It looks like New Mexico fought it So they could prosecute him for the shoplifting charges Before sending him back to Arizona And somehow, Commander Dunnigan, the prosecutor, Kahn's attorney And both the DOC and county jail didn't catch any of this So obviously, Kahn's court date is rescheduled while they try to get him extradited from New Mexico.
26:48But again, it gets worse. Enter Detective Roy Hayes from the Snowflake Taylor Police Department. He gets an anonymous tip from someone saying that Patrick Michael Kahn called them. So Hayes is like, oh, he called you from the jail in New Mexico? What did he say? And the tipster says, no, I don't believe the call was from New Mexico. And it didn't appear to come from a jail either. So, Hayes calls up the jail in New Mexico and asks for a picture of Patrick Michael Kahn. He tells them he just wants to make sure that they have the right guy. And you guys, when he gets the photo, it's not him. For almost six months, they thought that this child molester, murderer, was in custody when he wasn't.
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27:40So how did this happen? Well, apparently both men had similar birth dates and phonetically the same last name, but Patrick Michael Kahn spells his last name C-O-N-N, and the man in custody was C-O-H-N. And that is where the similarities end. The man in custody was Hispanic, 5 '10 and under 200 pounds, and Patrick Michael Kahn was white, 6 '3 and over 250 pounds. So yeah, this extremely dangerous man was indeed still on the run. This also meant that while he was initially ruled out as a suspect in the disappearance of June Goodman because they thought he was in custody when she went missing, was right back on their radar.
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29:45Because they thought he was in custody, all the warrants against him weren't active anymore. They were all dropped. So investigators have to rush to get them all back in place. Detective Hayes also had to call all the victims to tell them that Khan wasn't in custody. He told Donna Rescorla for the White Mountain Independent, quote, I also had to contact all the victims. They had expressed how grateful and comforted they were to know Khan was in jail. Now they are concerned again, end quote. I can't even imagine how terrifying this was for them. Now, Hayes is also asked about June in this article, and he confirms that Khan did make a threat against her, but says he hasn't been able to make any connection to June's disappearance.
30:30This article came out in May 2003, so about five weeks after June went missing. Really? Investigators didn't have much. I already told you every piece of evidence we have in this case. Or like I always say, at least what's been released to the media. But I haven't told you yet about how hard her family worked for her. Almost immediately, they offered a$100 ,000 reward for information leading to her safe return, and$30 ,000 for information leading to the discovery of what happened to her, with an additional$10 ,000 offered by the sheriff's office. A special bank account to accept donations for the search efforts was also established.
31:12Her family also created a website and paid for billboards on the main roads leading to Snowflake, in addition to posters and signs all over town. After the initial searches around June's home, divers searched local ponds and teams went through nearby canyons, but nothing was ever found. And multiple agencies were looking into her disappearance as well. In addition to the local Snowflake Taylor Police and the Navajo County Sheriff's Office, there was also the FBI, the Arizona Department of Public Safety, and U.S. Postal Inspectors. They conduct over 300 interviews in the first month, and the FBI created a profile of the possible kidnapper.
31:53Of course, they also follow up on the lead about the TV repairman who made June uncomfortable, but he was cleared. No charges came against the man who had pursued June romantically either, and Khan was still on the run. Who the other 30-plus people investigated were, we just don't know. There's actually a shocking lack of media in June's case given her high-profile family connections, but one theory is that those connections are exactly why we don't know more. That maybe there's something in there that they just don't want the public to know. But that really is where the familial connections come in.
32:32Just for theories. I absolutely cannot in good faith tell you that June's relation to the Flake family has anything to do with her disappearance. In fact, I went down the rabbit hole trying to find any major scandals involving Jeff or Jake Flake that might prompt someone to go after June as some form of political retribution. And I couldn't really find anything. While they definitely do have some political stances that are seen as controversial or negative to some, there's just not much there. But it also just didn't feel right to not mention this connection to one of the founding families of Snowflake, Arizona, and specifically to those very prominent politicians.
33:14It could be everything, or it could be nothing. Without more information, we just don't know. So June's case really just sits. Now, later in 2003, there was a rather large drug bust in Holbrook, Arizona, about 30 minutes north of Snowflake, where 30 people were arrested. The idea that June may have seen something along her mail route that one of these people could have been paranoid about has been floated, and everyone arrested was asked about June Goodman, but there's never been any concrete evidence linking any of them to her disappearance. However, there is still one more theory to explore here, that June's disappearance may be connected to the disappearance of her neighbor in the year 2000.
34:03So let's get into it. 51-year-old David Reed Watson lived on Concho Road just like June. In fact, if you were standing on June's front porch, you could see Reed's house. And like June, Reed was also a staple in this community. He's an artist, a gifted potter, and poet. In my research, I actually found articles featuring his work dating back to the 1970s, and he's often described as a gentle giant, standing at 6 '3 and weighing about 300 pounds. Despite his very intimidating size, he loved the arts, and his beliefs were rooted in Native American culture. He believed every living thing had its place, to the extent that his mother said Reed couldn't even kill a tomato worm, and his dog, a Dalmatian, was always at his side.
34:54He was also a very caring father to his son and daughter. So he had deep roots in this community. Now let's get into his disappearance, because the similarities between him going missing and June's case are eerily similar. Reed is close to his brother. He saw him two days before he went missing, so on December 18, 2000. On December 19, Reed spent his evening having dinner with his neighbors, like June had dinner with her sister. Now, in both encounters, his brother and his neighbors say that nothing was out of the ordinary about their interactions with Reed. Then, on the morning of December 20, 2000, Reed left his home on Concho Road, locked his son to the bus stop, and was never seen again.
35:42When investigators get to Reed's home, like in June's case, everything was left behind. His vehicle, keys, wallet, credit cards, and about$1 ,000 in cash, along with his beloved Dalmatian, were all found at his home. There were no signs of a struggle and no indication as to where he may have gone. Though I will say that unlike in June's case, they did find footprints in the direction of a nearby canyon, but after several searches, Reed was never found. Now, like June, there was a reward fund established for Reed too, but he remains missing to this day. While there were reports of possible marital troubles with Reed, that's largely been rejected by his family, as has the theory that he may have planned to die by suicide.
36:33And it seems that at least some of them do agree with what I've told you here, that the circumstances of his disappearance are strikingly similar to June's. His mother, Ruth Wasson, told Donna Rascorla for the White Mountain Independent, quote, I think when they find June, they are going to find Reed too, end quote. The cases really do seem so similar, and obviously they happened in a very close proximity to each other, but as of recording this episode, no official connection has been established. But I do have some good news. On June 4, 2003, Patrick Michael Kahn was finally apprehended in Columbus, Ohio, and this time they used fingerprints to confirm his identity, so it's really him.
37:23He was extradited back to Arizona in July 2003, and in September 2003, he was sentenced to 21 years in prison for child molestation and an additional 5 years for failure to appear. And in October 2004, he was indicted for the first-degree murder of Donald Sewell. He did try to submit a plea that would have overturned his child molestation conviction, but that was rejected by the court. Then, on November 23, 2007, Kahn was sentenced to 18 years in prison for the second-degree murder of Donald Sewell. He eventually confessed. However, no connection between Kahn and June's disappearance has ever been made.
38:11It's believed he was likely in Ohio when June went missing. and Patrick Michael Kahn is currently set to be released from prison in 2027. It seems that despite being the only name suspect in June's case, investigators are split on whether or not he's actually responsible. The strongest theory that investigators and June's family have discussed publicly is that on the night of Saturday, March 28, 2003, 66-year-old June Goodman had dinner with her sister, Pat, stopped by some candy bars, and then parked her work van at home in its usual spot, before sitting in her recliner in front of her picture window facing the driveway to watch some TV.
38:57But something disrupted her show. Maybe someone driving to her home, or something her dogs were barking at. So June gets up from her recliner, turns on the outdoor floodlights, opens the back door halfway, and disappears without so much as her shoes. In September 2008, June's family gathered to honor her. They held a memorial service, and replaced her husband John's headstone with one shared by them both. At the top is their last name, Goodman. Below it, a quiet and beautiful image, mountains, trees, a cowboy and cowgirl looking out of the view, their horses behind them, and the words, together, forever.
39:47It should feel comforting. Instead, it feels haunting, because Johnside tells a complete story, his birthdate, the day he died, a life with an ending. but June's side doesn't. All that appears beneath her name is her birth date, June 4th, 1936, and then nothing. Just blank stone, blank space, a life interrupted, and a family left without answers. That empty space says everything. It's a reminder that June Goodman is still missing from her own story, that even now, decades later, the truth has never been given the chance to catch up to her name. Which brings me right to our call to action. Please share June's story and try to put her case in front of as many people as possible.
40:43We all know that sometimes all it takes is the right person hearing the right detail at the right time. We can't change what happened to June Goodman, but we can refuse to let her be forgotten. And maybe, one day, the people who love her will finally get what they should have had all along. The truth, the answers, and the chance to make that headstone whole.
41:15As a reminder, 66-year-old June Goodman was last seen on the night of March 28, 2003 in Snowflake, Arizona. She is white. At the time of her disappearance, she was between 5 '2 and 5 '4 and weighed approximately 130 pounds. She has brown hair, green eyes, and may have been wearing a light purple sweatsuit. 52-year-old Dennis Reed Wasson was last seen on December 20, 2000 in Snowflake, Arizona. He is white. At the time of his disappearance, he was 6 '3 and weighed approximately 300 pounds. At that time, his hair was long and brown with a braid in the back. He also had a full beard and mustache that was red with gray in it, and he has brown eyes.
42:02He was last seen wearing a blue striped shirt, jeans, and sandals. He also has a gunshot wound on his right side, and a tattoo on his left shoulder that reads Hoss, H-O-S-S in cursive. Anyone with information about June or Reed is asked to call the Snowflake Taylor Police Department at 928-536-7500. But, as always, thank you, I love you, and I'll talk to you next time.
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43:40Welcome to the Secret After Show. the studio door is open, and our emotional support puppies, Popcorn and Heber, are in the room. Of course, if you listened last week, you know that I took the week off. I was out of the office. I mean, I didn't take the week off, I guess, but I was out of the office, like I said, to do the first ever search for Alyssa. I can't share much with you right now. I need to consult with Alyssa's detectives before telling you anything. While, you know, all the media coverage in the world was kind of the name of the game to get Alyssa justice a few years ago, that's not necessarily the case now.
44:24So I really hope that you understand that I just can't tell you everything. But I do want to take this moment to highlight the amazing organizations that made this happen. that is light the way the gabby petito foundation and dylan's legacy so if you don't know about any of those organizations i really do encourage you to check them out i also do just want to take a moment here to um if they're out there listening i know sometimes they listen um to just say thank you and then i'm so grateful to everyone who made this happen i think one detail i can share with you. Trying my best not to get emotional.
45:07I do not want to cry. I cried a lot over these last few days or whatever it was, this unspecified period of time that I was out there searching. I got to the first scene on the first day. I'm so bad at not being transparent. On the first day I got there. And outside of Jim Schmidt, who is an all-around amazing human being, so no shade to Jim because he is truly a great man. It was all women. The search teams, right? The handlers of these dogs. It was all women. And there was something about that that made me extremely overwhelmed with emotion. While there have been men who have helped in Alyssa's case, for the most part, it's been women.
46:04Me as Alyssa's sister. And then the true crime audience, you guys, right? There are men, and I'm sorry, thank you to all the men who are listening. I promise I adore and value you very much. But according to my demographics, most women who listen to this show, upwards of 90 % are women. So when I got there, and it was all these very intelligent, very caring, and wonderful women, I guess it just felt right. So again, thank you to everyone, women and men who helped in this, Alyssa's detectives, everybody in between. Thank you so much for all of this, and I hope someday I'll get to tell you what happened.
46:51But for now, everything is with the police, everything is with these investigators from possibly other agencies. I'm saying too much. Let's go on to the case. Had to do a little reset, but I am here. Let's talk about June Goodman. The first thing I have my list here is the con screw up. OMG. I was losing my mind going through this. Like, I was like, oh, this happened. Wait a second. What do you mean? Like, he wasn't in the right jail. What do you mean he wasn't in the state? What do you mean he wasn't the man who was arrested for shoplifting? It was like, not only was I sure that was a roller coaster for you guys to hear, it was a roller coaster to read.
47:35But as I'm researching this, all I'm thinking is, you've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. The amount of people and the amount of hands that these men, you know, slipped through, I guess, you know, specifically Patrick Michael Kahn, like insane, insane. Like I get that screw ups happen, but like this cacophony of screw ups, I mean, unlike anything I've ever seen before. And if I was one of those families of one of those victims, I would have lost my mind. I was losing my mind just researching it. So one, that's insane. How does that actually happen? Fun fact, I couldn't find that anybody like got in trouble for this.
48:20It seems like it was just kind of like, whoops, sorry about that. So, you know, I do want to take a second and like send my deepest sympathies to all the families impacted by that. Because even though it was like a shorter time frame that he was missing, absolutely unacceptable and all of you deserve better. Next on my list is that this is another case, I feel like I've been on this like streak of cases that don't have a lot of media coverage that I cannot believe doesn't have more. And I do have to say that this did remind me a lot of the Nancy Guthrie case. An older woman taken from her home from this prominent family, but the media coverage is very different.
49:07And I can't really figure out why. I mean, truly, I just have to leave it at that because I have no idea. Next, I just wanted to mention that, like, of course I had to talk about Dennis Reed Wasson. Them both going missing from the same street in this very tiny town in very similar circumstances just feels so odd. And there was almost no reporting on his case. I thought that June's case was bad media-wise, but there is almost nothing on Reed. And I know that, you know, investigators are a little split between, you know, the con connection possibly, right? That he was, like, in Ohio during this time when June went missing.
49:51And a lot of them believe that he's not connected, but some of them do, at least from the very limited reporting I could find. So I have to wonder if Reid may have somehow upset Patrick Michael Kahn. I don't know. If he did, it's not in any of the reporting I found. Which brings me to media discrepancies. Now, I have to give a shout out to the White Mountain Independent News, which is where I got most of the coverage for this case from, and Reed's case. So it was pretty consistent. There weren't really any discrepancies because most of it was coming from this one news source. I mean, outside of them and their, you know, various reporting over the years, and my god, decades at this point, there was like an article, like one article in the Arizona Republic, NamUs, a few other sources, like a handful of other sources.
50:43But they really covered this case more than anybody. So again, shout out to the White Mountain Independent News. Which brings me right into our hero of the episode, and I will name them as one. Again, like without that media coverage, I would not have been able to make this episode. So again, hero of the episode, you guys are amazing. Next, I have June's sister, Pat. She immediately knew that something was up and didn't waste any time getting to her sister's house or reporting her missing. Also bonus points for apparently like knowing her entire shoe collection and knowing that not a single shoe was missing from that home and that she must have gone missing barefoot.
51:27Those are like invaluable details because I think especially in the desert, you guys, going missing without shoes and in, you know, overnight, right, is the theory, and these below-freezing temperatures, I think it changes a lot. And I really did just want to mention, again, June's family. They put in so much work. All these major efforts, these huge rewards, the billboards, the signs, I mean, just truly incredible efforts. So again, please take a moment to share both June and Reed's cases. now on to our segment of hope as popcorn funny enough is trying to get off my lap okay traitor um and this is a little bit different a little bit different right it's been a while since i've said that i think um but in kind of like an ode to the dogs who helped search for alissa i did think this was appropriate.
52:32So I am reading from 7 Eyewitness News. It's an ABC station, and apparently this is just written by staff. But the title reads, Dog Reunited with Family 11 Years After Being Stolen from Backyard in Philadelphia. So it looks like in 2015, this family had two dogs stolen from their backyard. One of the dogs was found, but the other dog, his name is Forty Cow, never came home. They searched for days, they searched for weeks and years, and let me tell you how all this happened. So the family did move a few hours away to Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, but they never forgot him. I'm reading from the article.
53:19They made sure to keep Forty's lost pet report active and ensured his microchip information was up to date, despite thinking he was long gone. Then, I can't you guys, ACCT Philly found a senior stray. The shelter scanned his microchip, and because the information was current, they were finally able to contact the family with the happy news. oh 40 cow was finally able to go home quote i thought it was a joke it's just amazing and i can't believe after years that he was brought back to us said owner jordan fighting back tears me too me too he's very old and he's going to go home with us and just live his best life for the rest of the time we have with him, end quote.
54:13The family hopes their story encourages people to never give up and make sure to keep your pet's microchip updated. So again, I know it's not a human and I'm not trying to like take away from the seriousness of humans going missing. I just thought with how heavy, you know, selfishly my time currently has been, that this was a nice little ode in honor of all the search dogs who helped search for Alyssa. So 40 cal, I hope that you are home, happy, warm, and getting every single treat. But as always, thank you, I love you, and I'll talk to you next time.
From the publisher
June Goodman was 66 years old when she vanished from Snowflake, Arizona in 2003. She was a mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, widow, and a familiar face in a small town where people knew each other and where her family name carried weight.
When June disappeared, the questions left behind and the theories of what may have happened to her only grew more unsettling.
66-year-old June Goodman was last seen on the night of March 28, 2003, in Snowflake, Arizona. She is white. At that time of her disappearance, she was between 5’2-5’4, weighed approximately 130lbs. She has brown hair and green eyes and may have been wearing a light purple sweatsuit.
52-year-old Dennis Reed Wasson was last seen on December 20, 2000, in Snowflake, Arizona. He is white. At the time of his disappearance, he was 6’3” and weighed approximately 300lbs. At that time his hair was long and brown with a braid in the back with brown eyes and he had a full beard and mustache that was red with grey in it. He was last seen wearing a blue striped shirt, jeans and sandals. He also has a gunshot wound on his right side and a tattoo on his left shoulder that reads “Hoss” cursive.
Anyone with information about June or Reed is asked to call the Snowflake-Taylor Police Department at 928-536-7500.
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