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Voices for Justice Podcast: Episode Summary
Episode Title
Leonard Dirickson Release Date: [Insert Date] Host: Sarah Turney Episode Description: The case of Leonard Dirickson, who went missing under mysterious circumstances in 1998, is discussed, highlighting the details surrounding his disappearance and the ongoing search for answers.
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Key Details of the Case
- Disappearance Date: March 14, 1998
- Location: Strong City, Oklahoma
- Age at Disappearance: 39 years old
- Physical Description:
- Height: Approximately 6 feet
- Weight: Around 200 pounds
- Hair: Brown, with a red handlebar mustache
- Eyes: Gray
- Notable features: Small scar under one eye
- Last Seen: Leaving home in a white Ford F-150 pickup truck with an unidentified man, intending to look at horses in Elk City, Oklahoma, and Mobeetie, Texas.
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Episode Overview
Initial Events
- Leonard Dirickson was having breakfast with his teenage son, Jared, when an unknown man pulled up to their farmhouse, inquiring about a horse for sale.
- Leonard decided to leave with the man to potentially sell a horse, assuring Jared he would return by afternoon.
- Leonard never returned home, sparking concern and leading Jared to report him missing the following day.
Investigation Insights
- Sheriff's Response: Sheriff Joe Hay became personally involved in the case, demonstrating passion and commitment despite the office's lack of experience in handling missing persons cases.
- Eyewitness Account: A server at a local restaurant reported seeing Leonard and the unknown man a couple of hours after his disappearance. However, discrepancies regarding the sighting raised questions.
Conflicting Details
- Two Breakfasts: A point of contention, as the restaurant served breakfast only until 11 AM, and Leonard had just eaten with Jared, leading investigators to doubt the server's memory.
- Foul Play vs. Voluntary Disappearance: Initial investigations pointed towards a potential foul play due to Leonard's close relationship with his son and the lack of motive for him to leave voluntarily. However, theories surrounding his possible voluntary disappearance arose later in the investigation.
Theories Discussed
- Foul Play: The theory suggests that the unidentified man may have intended to harm Leonard, though no clear motive has been established.
- Voluntary Disappearance: Some theorized that Leonard left to start anew, especially considering the financial pressures he faced after selling his dairy business.
- Accidental Circumstances: Another theory is that something unfortunate happened during their trip after the restaurant visit, leading to both men going missing.
Ongoing Search for Answers
- Description of the Unknown Man:
- Approximately 6’2”, 210 pounds, with a reddish-brown beard and thick round face.
- Last seen wearing blue jeans and a striped western shirt.
- Call to Action: Listeners are encouraged to share Leonard's case to gather more information and help bring closure to his family.
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Key Takeaways
- Leonard Dirickson remains missing, and the case is considered one of Oklahoma's most perplexing disappearances.
- The ongoing lack of new leads and media coverage emphasizes the need for public awareness to potentially uncover new information.
- The emotional toll on Leonard's family, especially his children, and the uncertainty surrounding his fate is a central theme of the episode, underscoring the human aspect of missing persons cases.
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Closing Thoughts This episode not only recounts the mystery surrounding Leonard Dirickson's disappearance but also serves as a reminder of the importance of community involvement in unresolved cases. The emotional impact on loved ones and the quest for justice are pivotal themes throughout the discussions.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Disappearance of Leonard Derrickson
2:14 to 3:54
Details about Leonard Derrickson's disappearance from his farmhouse.
“In 1998, at a farmhouse in Strong City, Oklahoma, 39-year-old Leonard Derrickson sat down for breakfast with his teenage son.”
Initial Investigation Efforts
3:54 to 6:34
Overview of the sheriff's investigation into Leonard's case.
“and a bit further to Mobidi, Texas, which is about an hour away.”
Eyewitness Sighting and Controversy
9:23 to 13:55
Discussion of the witness sighting and conflicting accounts.
“When Leonard Derrickson went missing, no one could figure out why.”
The Life and Times of Leonard Derrickson
14:00 to 17:20
Learn about Leonard Derrickson's upbringing, family, and life changes leading to his disappearance.
“He also left behind an uncashed paycheck, and while he did have a few credit cards, they were mostly maxed out and never used after he went missing.”
Mysterious Sightings of Leonard
18:59 to 22:46
Explore the mysterious sightings of Leonard Derrickson after his disappearance and the investigation that followed.
“The next and unfortunately last sighting of Leonard Derrickson happened about six months after he went missing in September 1998.”
Theories Surrounding Leonard's Disappearance
22:48 to 28:01
Examine the various theories about what happened to Leonard, including foul play, voluntary departure, and accidents.
“Or even that Hay just didn't want to think about the worst-case scenario for Leonard.”
The Puzzling Case of Leonard Derrickson
28:01 to 29:57
Explore the mysterious circumstances surrounding Leonard Derrickson's disappearance.
“He looks like everybody and nobody at the same time.”
Details of Leonard's Last Seen
29:58 to 30:56
Learn about the last known moments of Leonard Derrickson before he vanished.
“All it takes is one person with the right information to bring long-awaited answers in this case.”
Public Call for Information
30:57 to 31:41
Hear the urgent plea for any information leading to Leonard's whereabouts.
“green jeans, and black and brown shoes or boots.”
The Secret After Show Discussion
33:25 to 41:41
Join a deeper exploration and emotional discussion post-episode.
“or a Crunchwrap slider isn't one you'll have to make.”
Transcript
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2:13Today, I'm discussing the case of Leonard Derrickson. In 1998, at a farmhouse in Strong City, Oklahoma, 39-year-old Leonard Derrickson sat down for breakfast with his teenage son. As they were cleaning up, they were interrupted by a mysterious stranger in a truck, inquiring about a horse for sale. It'd been a tough few years for their family farm, so Leonard told his son he was going to leave with the man in hopes of selling one of their horses on another property, and that he'd be back that afternoon. But Leonard remains missing to this day, and his case is now considered one of the most puzzling cases in Oklahoma history.
2:52This is the case of Leonard Derrickson. It's about 9 a.m. on Saturday, March 14, 1998, and 16-year-old Jared Derrickson just finished eating breakfast with his father, 39-year-old Leonard Derrickson, at their 800-acre farm in Strong City, Oklahoma. But their morning is interrupted by an unexpected visitor, an unknown man. This man pulled up to their home in a newer white F-150 truck with a yellow plate on the front. He doesn't exit the vehicle. Instead, Leonard goes outside to speak with him. Jared watches some of this interaction from the window and says he couldn't really get a good look at the man through the windshield, but he doesn't believe it's anyone his father knew.
3:37After a few minutes, Leonard comes back inside, grabs his black faded Carhartt jacket, and explains to Jared that the man is interested in buying one of their horses, according to some reporting, specifically a stud horse. The horses aren't there on their farm, though. They're going to Elk City, Oklahoma, about 30 minutes away, and a bit further to Mobidi, Texas, which is about an hour away. That's where Leonard stores his horses. After this, Leonard asks Jared to finish a few chores while he's gone, and assures him that he'll be back that afternoon. Here's part of Jared's interview with Unsolved Mysteries.
4:13So he told me that he was going to go with him. He said to stay here and go to Elk and get some feed, and go feed the cows, and he'd be back that afternoon. Jared does his chores as he was asked, but the hours start going by into the afternoon, and then into the night, and Leonard still hasn't come home, or even called home to let Jared know what's going on. But Jared doesn't jump to the worst-case scenario here. He just goes to bed like normal, expecting his father to be there when he wakes up. But of course, since we are here today discussing Leonard's case, we know that didn't happen, and the following morning, Jared reports his father missing to the Roger Mills County Sheriff's Office.
4:55According to reporting by the Daily Oklahoman, this is their first missing persons case since 1981, nearly 20 years. This definitely isn't something that this Sheriff's Office is used to handling, but I will say that Sheriff Joe Hay becomes very passionate about finding Leonard very quickly. In nearly every article I found on this case, I saw Sheriff Joe speaking his mind about it, and about Leonard. You're going to hear a lot about him in this episode. It's clear that he knows this area and he knows this man fairly well. So while the sheriff's office as a whole may not have a lot of experience working these cases, it seems that the passion is there.
5:32I mean, Hay knows this man so well that he knows exactly where Leonard keeps his horses. So the sheriff's office checks with the owners of those properties, but no one reports seeing Leonard, or even hearing about Leonard trying to sell one of his horses. It seems that if Leonard did have a horse for sale, he didn't advertise this anywhere. Now, they also check every route from Leonard's home in Strong City to both the property in Elk City and in Mobidi, Texas. Their thinking is that maybe the men got into an accident that hasn't been reported. They physically drive these routes and call in aerial support to check from above as well, but they don't find anything.
6:10Hay immediately thinks that this is odd for Leonard. He told the Daily Oklahoman, quote, this is very unusual for this guy. Occasionally, you have a guy who twists off and goes away for a while, but not this guy. He's not a drinker and not a doper. He's a hardworking guy, end quote. They're pretty stumped in this case, but it's not long before the first reported sighting of Leonard comes into the sheriff's office. And it throws everyone for a loop. This episode of Voices for Justice is brought to you by HERS. There's a lot of noise around weight loss right now. Trends, opinions, medications. It's hard to know what's actually right for you.
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9:23When Leonard Derrickson went missing, no one could figure out why. But there was a sighting of him just about two hours after he left home. A server at the Kettle restaurant in Elk City reported serving Leonard and another man matching the description of the unidentified man that Jared saw. Now, like I told you earlier, Jared didn't get a great look at the guy. He was watching from the window and only saw this man through the windshield. but he did report that the man had a reddish-brown beard, was tall and stocky. The server at the Kettle restaurant describes the unidentified man as white with a reddish-brown beard, long nose, a thick round face, and dark eyes.
10:01She said he was maybe 40 years old, 6 '2", and weighed about 210 pounds. Investigators also showed this server a photo of Leonard, and she confirmed that he was the man that she served that day. She said they both ordered the breakfast buffet. On the surface, it seems pretty cut and dry, but there are some issues and conflicting opinions on this sighting. First, it appears that the Kettle Restaurant only served the breakfast buffet until 11am, making some question the validity of the server's statement, or her memory of the time of the sighting. The next debate was over Leonard having two meals that morning.
10:37Members of his family and Sheriff Hay say that this doesn't make any sense for Leonard to stop for a second breakfast. I've actually found articles of Hay saying this several times. It appears to be a real sticking point for him. And here he is reiterating this to Unsolved Mysteries. Now that's a little odd to us because at 9 o 'clock, Leonard just got through eating breakfast with his son. It's extremely odd to eat two breakfasts in the same day two hours apart. Like I said earlier, when you read Hay's statements to the media about Leonard, it's clear that he was very familiar with this man. which is maybe why he's so adamant about this.
11:16Now, I'm not saying that this is the most important detail in this case, but I just want to make sure you know that this is something that Hay is very passionate about, this belief that Leonard would not have eaten two meals that morning. And again, it is reiterated by Leonard's family, but it seems that there may have been some type of miscommunication between Hay and the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation. They were also pulled into this case, because in that Unsolved Mysteries episode, we also hear from them, specifically Inspector Cliff Gann, and he says that Leonard didn't seem to eat much at all.
11:50They were sitting there in the restaurant, and the unknown man that we're trying to identify was doing most of the talking, and Leonard was just drinking coffee and listening to the man talk. So we have one agency saying one thing, and another agency saying something different. Quite literally back-to-back in this episode. so like I always say, take that for what you will. What I can say is that in all the sources I found, no one reported anything odd about this sighting. Neither of the men appear to be acting suspiciously. They didn't seem to argue, and it just seemed to be two men sitting down together at this restaurant.
12:30I mean, just my opinion, I could see two people stopping in a restaurant to discuss the possible purchase of a horse. It's a big transaction, but again, it seems that officials seem a bit split on this, with Hay pretty consistently questioning this sighting, and the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation appearing to confirm the sighting. Now, while there seem to be some opposing statements from law enforcement, what I will say is that at this point, no one thinks Leonard would have left voluntarily, especially not leaving his children behind. Even the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation tells the media that they do suspect foul play.
13:06And again, while the sheriff's office doesn't really have experience in missing persons cases, they are putting in the work. By the one-week mark of Leonard being missing, the sheriff's office interviewed 71 people in this case. They also created and distributed a sketch of the unknown man using Jared and the server's descriptions of him. By the beginning of April, Hay reports that they followed and closed hundreds of leads in the case. He told the Daily Oklahoman, quote, We have as much now as we did the first day he was reported missing. Now the calls are starting to dwindle down. With most investigations, you usually have a place to start.
13:40We don't even know where to start with this one. End quote. At this point, they have no idea who this stranger is. And they have no motive for why he might want to hurt Leonard, or why Leonard might be compelled to leave his life behind willingly. And it doesn't seem that Leonard really had the means to do so if he wanted to. Most who knew him say that he may have had up to$150 on him when he got into that truck, but that's it. He also left behind an uncashed paycheck, and while he did have a few credit cards, they were mostly maxed out and never used after he went missing. In fact, there were no activities on any of Leonard's accounts after March 14th.
14:20Now I want to read you a few more quotes from Sheriff Hay. Quote, We found no reason why someone would kill him. We've talked to anyone and everyone he had dealings with, and everyone thought the world of him. I'm sure there are a few out there who weren't his friend. We just haven't found them. End quote. Hay also said, quote, Someone asked why anyone would get in with a stranger. Well, that might be true if we were talking about someone from Oklahoma City or Amarillo or Dallas. But out here, where Leonard was born and raised, it comes natural to trust people. End quote. I think Leonard's upbringing and past are important to discuss here, because outside of foul play, the most prevalent theory in this case is that he left on his own accord.
15:06And I could see why that theory is on the table given the last few years of Leonard's life. But let's start from the beginning. Leonard has very strong roots in Oklahoma. Like Hay said, he was born and raised there. And his parents are still in Elk City. According to Hay, he sees them pretty much every day. But outside of his parents, Leonard also built his own family about 30 minutes away in Strong City. He married his high school sweetheart, Kathy, when he was 18. Together, they built up a very successful dairy business on the 800-acre farm. In addition to dairy cows, they also had pigs and horses.
15:40They also had two children together, Jared, and then about two years later, a baby girl named Connie. For about 20 years, Leonard and his wife, Kathy, have this successful marriage and business raising their kids on the farm. But that does change in 1996. That year, Leonard and his wife got divorced. There is a custody battle for the kids. In the end, Leonard's wife takes Connie to live about five hours away in Hammond, Oklahoma, and Leonard and Jared stay on the farm. It's obviously a very sad situation, but by all accounts, Leonard and his ex-wife are on good terms when all is said and done.
16:16However, by the end of 1997, just a few months before Leonard went missing, he was forced to sell his dairy business. According to most reporting, this seems largely due to skyrocketing costs of both feed and milk. Sheriff Hay told the Daily Oklahoman, quote, Leonard was having a lot of financial problems. I don't even think his family realized how bad it was. End quote. Now, business on the farm wasn't completely shut down. They still had pigs and about 15 horses. But the main dairy business was gone. And Leonard picked up a second job working at a local metal company. But it seems that Leonard actually really embraced this change and enjoyed the new gig.
16:56He told his parents that he liked it so much that he hoped to buy the company from the owners one day. So while there was clearly a lot of change in Leonard's life in the year leading up to his disappearance, there doesn't seem to be any clear indicator that he was ready to leave everything behind to start a new life. But about six months into the investigation, there's another mysterious sighting of Leonard Derrickson. looking to transform how you work out at the sculpt society we have workouts for every stage of life from pregnancy and postpartum to perimetopause and midlife we offer life stage fitness programs expert-led nutrition and thousands of classes that help you enjoy movement and feel strong at every stage all from home use code megan30 for your first month free on thesculptsociety.com.
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18:59The next and unfortunately last sighting of Leonard Derrickson happened about six months after he went missing in September 1998. This is when the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation got a call from a man in a bar in Amarillo, Texas. He said Leonard was right there with him in the bar. However, the caller refused to give his name and ended the call. Now, local police were dispatched to the scene, but the caller was gone and they couldn't find Leonard either. The Roger Mills County Sheriff's Office followed up the next day, and the bartender did corroborate the caller's story. Here is Hay again.
19:36The individual at the call stated, I know Leonard Derrickson. I'm from Elk City. I can't give you my name, but he's in this bar. I'm watching him. He's wearing a blue check shirt, and he's drunk. And then the call terminates. We had no reason to disbelieve it. It almost stretched the imagination that a guy would dance around in the bar screaming and hollering, it's Leonard, it's Leonard, and it not be Leonard. I believe he was in the bar. So Hay seems to think that this really was Leonard So at this point, the sheriff's office has an officer sit in the bar for a few days Reporting on exactly how long does differ a bit But they do sit there to see if Leonard or the caller came back into the bar And neither ever did Like the sighting at the restaurant, it seems so promising But doesn't lead to them finding Leonard And the leads really just dry up In the year 2000, Jared gives another interview to the Daily Oklahoman shortly before Leonard's 42nd birthday.
20:37Jared is 18 now, and living with his grandparents in Elk City. Connie is 16 and still living with her mother in Hammond. Jared said he dreams of his father often, adding, quote, I love him a lot. I wish I could see him again. I pray to God he will let me see him again. End quote. Both of Leonard's parents also give statements. His father, Don Derrickson, said, quote, What could have possibly happened? Where could he possibly be? You could imagine a thousand different things. You just don't know. If he's alive, I just want him to come back home. Jared needs him worse than we do. End quote. His mother, Norma Derrickson, said, quote, Now every time I read in the paper or hear on the news that a body was found, I wonder.
21:24I have to check to see if it's Leonard. I've even walked all the canyons around here to see if I might find him. In my heart, I know something bad has happened. He wouldn't have left Jared. They were just too close. End quote. And of course, Sheriff Hay chimed in as well, saying, quote, We really don't know what happened. We know as much now as the first day he was reported missing. End quote. Hay adds that he doesn't know if Leonard is still alive, but he knows he has to be out there somewhere, and he's determined to find him. But again, Leonard's case just sits. And with so little information, the media stopped reporting on his disappearance too.
22:06Really, the biggest break they've had media-wise is that Unsolved Mysteries episode he was featured in about three years after he went missing. And at this point, Hay really seems to have changed his tune. In all of that early reporting, he's confident that Leonard would not have left voluntarily and especially that he wouldn't have left Jared. But here's what he told Unsolved Mysteries. It's entirely possible that Leonard left on his own. I don't know where he would be today. I believe it's possible that he's working as a ranch hand somewhere or on a dairy or a cattle ranch or even horses. I mean, I will say that I do understand the change of heart after a certain amount of time.
22:48Or even that Hay just didn't want to think about the worst-case scenario for Leonard. I can't say for sure, but Hay seems to care deeply for this man and for his family. Which brings me to what Jared said about this on the show. Me and my dad, we was together every day. Every morning we'd go work, do the chores, and I'd go to school. I don't think he would have ever left me and not ever come back to see me or nothing, because we was close, and I don't think he'd ever done that to me. Obviously, it's just heartbreaking. And like I said, that's a sentiment that's been shared by pretty much every person who's commented on this case.
23:31That Leonard and his son were incredibly close, and leaving Jared like that, especially in a time of uncertainty in their family, was just unimaginable to them. Leonard's mother, Norma, says the same thing on that episode of Unsolved Mysteries. She adds that it wasn't just Jared who he wouldn't leave, but his entire family. She stresses that they were just too close for him to do that. I mean, this is a multi-generational business. This is a family who people know. A family who's been here for half a century. It's all Leonard ever knew. What's left behind are really just crumbs. But here's what we know.
24:11The unidentified man has never been found. and neither has his truck. Investigators looked into Jared's description of the vehicle, especially that yellow license plate on the front. At first, they considered whether it might be a New Mexico plate, but that state only requires tags on the back of a vehicle. And there are other states that issued license plates featuring the color yellow, like Pennsylvania and Kansas. So in the end, they weren't really able to do much with this lead. The next issue, the next crumb, is the horse. The horse the unidentified man asked about purchasing was never advertised for sale.
24:49This seems to be a huge sticking point for people in this case. However, I would argue that something like that may have just spread by word of mouth. Maybe Leonard mentioned to someone that he might be looking to sell one of his horses to alleviate some of the financial stress he was experiencing. But that is just speculation. and to this day no one has come forward to say that they told someone about this horse for sale and directed them to Leonard. Which brings me to my next point, the location of Leonard's property. This is a very important detail in this case. He lived on an 800-acre farm in a very rural area.
25:27To get to this home, whoever this man was would have had to know where to go. This has been confirmed by law enforcement and by Leonard's family. This home isn't just off to the side of the road. To get to Leonard and Jared's house, this man would have taken several back roads with this destination in mind. So given that there was no advertisement for a horse for sale, I think it's fair to assume that this man was either familiar with the farm or told where to go. Really, there only seem to be a few possibilities here. One, that Leonard knew this man, arranged this, and left on his own accord to start a new life.
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26:04But again, as we know, this theory isn't supported by much. Leonard seemed happy with his new job, and there was never any activity on his accounts. There were also never any large withdrawals around the time that he went missing. So if he did leave to start a new life, maybe around Amarillo, Texas, where that bar was, he either would have had to have a brand new identity or help from someone. He also had to be very good at hiding, since our last sighting was from about 30 years ago. Of course, the other theory is foul play, that this man wanted to hurt Leonard for some reason. Investigator Cliff Gann from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation posed the theory that maybe this mystery man took Leonard to be killed by someone else.
26:50That's how he knew how to get to their home. But the biggest issue with the foul play theory is that there doesn't seem to be any motive. Leonard and his ex-wife were on good terms, and they've never found anyone else who may have wanted to harm him. Also, the idea of this being a chance encounter seems really low given the location of the farm. I mean, I guess it's possible someone got lost on the back roads, ended up at the farm, and decided to kill Leonard for some random reason. But again, we just don't have really anything to point to that theory either. The last theory is that everything happened in good faith.
27:27This man really wanted to buy a horse and Leonard wanted to sell a horse, but something happened to both men along the journey. that sometime after they stopped at the restaurant, something happened, possibly some type of accident, and neither men have been recovered. It seems plausible, but the wrench thrown in this theory is that there was never a second man reported missing matching that description, just Leonard. And once again, I'm going to reference another quote from Sheriff Hay. Quote, The problem with our John Doe is the same problem they had with John Doe No. 2 from the Murrah bombing.
28:01He looks like everybody and nobody at the same time. End quote. Of course, Sheriff Hay is referring to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing by Timothy McVeigh. While the FBI now believes McVeigh acted alone, back in the 90s there were reports of a possible co-conspirator, John Doe No. 2, a stocky man who fit the description of many men. So while they seem to have a pretty good description and sketch of this man last seen with Leonard Derrickson, he unfortunately fits the description of many, many men in this area, and of course has yet to be identified. Every theory in this case really seems like a shot in the dark.
28:42I think that's why it's still considered one of the most puzzling disappearances in Oklahoma history. Obviously, we don't know what happened to Leonard, but we do know that he is very loved and very missed. Leonard's father passed away in 2015 at the age of 88, and his mother Norma in 2022 at the age of 91. They lived with this ambiguous loss for the rest of their lives. As far as I could find, Jared is still living with this, as well as Connie. Still wondering what happened to their father that morning. Which brings me right to our call to action. Please share Leonard's case. This is another one with almost no media.
29:25especially recent media. Most of the information I could find for this episode came from law enforcement listings, that Unsolved Mysteries episode, and a handful of articles from the local papers. Those pretty much stopped a few years after Leonard went missing. This type of loss can be so painful, especially with so few answers, and especially for Jared. Hearing him nearly in tears speaking about his father is a huge reason why I wanted to cover this case, to hopefully bring some attention back to Leonard, so please take a moment to share. We see cases solved all the time. All it takes is one person with the right information to bring long-awaited answers in this case.
30:14As a reminder, Leonard Neal Derrickson was 39 years old when he was last seen on March 14, 18th, 1998, at his home in Strong City, Oklahoma. He was seen getting into a newer or possibly 1994 white Ford F-150 pickup truck with an unknown man. He told his son that they were headed to Mobity, Texas and Elk City, Oklahoma to look at horses. Leonard is white, about six feet tall, and weighed approximately 200 pounds at the time of his disappearance. At that time, he had brown hair with a red handlebar mustache. He has gray eyes and a small scar under one eye. He was last seen wearing a brown cap with a green bill, a faded black Carhartt brand coat, green jeans, and black and brown shoes or boots.
31:01The unidentified man Leonard was last seen with has been described as white, about 6 '2", around 40 years old, and approximately 210 pounds with a reddish-brown beard, long nose, dark eyes, and a thick round face. He was seen wearing blue jeans, a striped western shirt, a blue jacket, and a cap with the words, No Fear, on the front. He may be right-handed and smoke cigarettes, possibly Marlboro Lights. A sketch has been created and circulated for further reference. Anyone with information is asked to call the Roger Mills County Sheriff's Office at 580-497-2417. But as always, thank you, I love you, and I'll talk to you next time.
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34:08Like I said, when I saw Jared at On Self Mysteries, like that was it for me. You know, when I try to pick a case to cover, I look at a fair amount of media before moving forward. And when I saw that, I knew I wanted to help. And this is another one of those cases that unfortunately doesn't get a lot of time. I'm going to get a lot of time to get a coverage because there's not a ton there. At least I think, you know, it doesn't have all those twists and turns I think a lot of shows look for when covering a case. In my mind, I think this is an extremely compelling case, and even though it's a shorter episode, it just sticks out in my mind as one of those truly mysterious cases where almost anything could have happened.
34:52Or at least that's my opinion. Now, on my list of things to talk about, first was how Jared just broke my heart. And, you know, I play those clips not to make you guys feel bad, but so that you can understand the impact that these cases have. I think me telling you that Jared is sad is something completely different from you hearing it, you know, for yourself. So I hope that came through. true. The next point I wanted to talk about was this idea of two breakfasts. In all of these articles almost, it is such a sticking point for Hay. And again, his family does talk about it, right? And I started to think, like, why is this one of the things that people just keep talking about?
35:37And, you know, of course, what I do in these cases is like draw from my own reference, you know, with a missing persons case. And I think it might just be one of those things where these people know their person so well that it just sticks with them, that it just bugs them. Like one example I could use in my sister's case is the note that was left behind. And, you know, even before I suspected my dad in my first interview with police, I say what really bugged me about that note was the capital A instead of her using her usual lowercase a. So again, I feel like this two meals thing might just be something that the family and something that, hey, can't get out of their minds.
36:17Like, maybe Leonard didn't eat a lot, right? Maybe he was notoriously, you know, a smaller eater, if you will. I don't know. Just a thought. Now let's go on to media discrepancies. Of course, there really, I think there was like 11 articles on this case in the Unsolved Mysteries episode, which is a shame. You know, I wish that there was more. But in that Unsolved Mysteries episode, you know, there were some discrepancies. I think the biggest one is they said Jared was 19 instead of 16 when his dad went missing. And it's not like the biggest thing in the world. I just, I always find it interesting when these large productions get things wrong like that.
36:59But I believe Jared would have been around the age of 19 while doing the show. So that's maybe where they got mixed up. The only other thing was that two breakfasts, how we have a hey, you know, saying that Leonard, you know, would have never had two breakfasts. And then you have the state agency, that gentleman saying, well, you really only drink coffee. So like, in my mind, I just want to know which was it, right? Because this dang breakfast topic is such a sticking point for people. I would have loved more clarification there. It doesn't look like they interviewed the server. I mean, I know they didn't, not for the show.
37:39I would just love to like know more about what the server said. You know, why do you order a breakfast buffet and then just drink coffee if that is the case? I don't know. I don't know. Again, with so little to go on this case, I do feel like I'm kind of overanalyzing every point I can, but you know, that's what this after show's for. On to our hero of the episode. It's Hay. It's Sheriff Hay. Sheriff Joe Hay. He's no longer there. I did try to look and see like kind of what he's up to now. and it seems you know he's stayed out of the news which could be good and bad right but obviously Sheriff Hay makes our hero of this episode because I just I'm getting emotional when law enforcement goes above and beyond to make so many statements there's something about that that just like really touches my heart and again Hay was like why you know I know where this guy like keeps his horses.
38:35He just seemed like so involved in this community that it was really, really touching. And again, this is a case without a lot. So that's why Hay makes our hero of this episode. He really stuck with his family. And again, in like almost every piece of media, you can find Hay talking about it. So wherever you are, Sheriff Hay, Sheriff Joe Hay, I hope that you are having a fantastic day. But let's go on to our segment of hope. This is from Esther Walcott at People, and the title reads, one-year-old Florida girl found miles away after she was missing for more than a month. Now, I'm not going to say her name.
39:20You guys know this is a one-year-old. Like, she doesn't need, you know, some future employer googling her name and finding this out in, you know, 16 years or whatever. But she was, she's one years old. She was reported missing on December 2nd, she was last seen with her father, Thomas, and her mother, Jamie, in Pensacola. And this is a weird one. So the article says, in December, police entered a hotel where they found the mother acting strangely in the lobby and unable to locate her daughter after possibly suffering an overdose. Quote, we got a call about an individual who was potentially suffering from an overdose.
39:59We get there, and it's actually the mother of the one-year-old, end quote. They then found the one-year-old with a man in a room inside of the hotel. There was also a quantity of narcotics, according to police. Now, this is where it gets really confusing, because the man inside of the room didn't appear to be the one-year-old's father. And as the mom was sent to the hospital, it appears that the one-year-old went missing. Police believe that it was the father who took the child, but they can't confirm that either, apparently. And while the mom was in the hospital, they wrote up a warrant for her, but by the time they tried to serve it on her, she was gone.
40:40So this has been a huge mess. How that child, like, slipped away during that time, I have no idea. But on Thursday, January 15, 15th, 2026, they did announce that the baby was located safely in Alabama. And no further details surrounding her disappearance and discovery have been shared. So I mean, this makes our segment of hope for obvious reasons. The one-year-old was found and she is safe. I should have said that before, sorry. And I thought it was specifically unique for this episode too because it is so mysterious. Like, how did this child go missing right in front of police? How did they let the mother, you know, go to the hospital and be released without arresting her.
41:23I have a lot of questions, and, you know, if I can find more in the upcoming, you know, weeks and days or whatever, I will certainly update you. But for now, it is largely a mystery, but also a great segment of hope because this child was found and found to be totally safe. So with that, thank you, I love you, and I'll talk to you next time.
From the publisher
On March 14, 1998, at a farmhouse in Strong City, Oklahoma, 39-year-old Leonard Dirickson sat down for breakfast with his teenage son. As they were cleaning up, they were interrupted by a mysterious stranger in a truck, inquiring about a horse for sale.
It had been a tough few years for their family farm, so Leonard told his son he was going to leave with the man in hopes of selling one of their horses on another property and that he’d be back that afternoon. But Leonard remains missing to this day in one of the most puzzling cases in Oklahoma
history.
Leonard Neal Dirickson was 39 years old when he was last seenon March 14, 1998, at his home in Strong City, Oklahoma. He was seen getting into a newer or possibly a 1994 white Ford F150 pickup truck with an unknown
man. He told his son that they were headed to Mobeetie, Texas, and Elk City,
Oklahoma, to look at horses.
Leonard is white, about 6 feet tall, and weighed approximately 200 pounds at the time of his disappearance, with brown hair and a red handlebar mustache. He has grey eyes and a small scar under one eye. He was last seen wearing a brown cap with a green bill and an ACCO feeds logo, a faded black Carhartt brand coat, green jeans, and black and brown shoes or
boots.
The unidentified man Leonard was last seen with has been described as white, about 6’2”, around 40 years old, and approximately 210lbs with a reddish-brown beard, a long nose, dark eyes, and a thick, round face. He was seen wearing blue jeans, a striped western shirt, a blue jacket, and a cap with the words “No Fear” on the front. He may be right-handed and smokes
cigarettes, possibly Marlboro Lights. A sketch has been created and circulated for further reference.
Anyone with information is asked to call the Roger Mills County Sheriff’s Office at 580-497-2417.
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