In short
The 1938 disappearance of 4-year-old Marjorie West on Mother’s Day in the Allegheny Forest near Bradford, Pennsylvania, and the long-running unsolved investigation, including search efforts, witness reports, and competing theories (lost in woods vs. animal attack vs. abduction/possible illegal adoption).
Guest backgrounds
No named guests appear in the transcript. The episode is narrated by Sarah Turney and includes a “Secret After Show” segment with Sarah.
Key claims
Marjorie vanished within seconds while picking violets; her crushed flowers were later found near the road; bloodhounds reportedly tracked either toward a cabin or toward the road; a speeding Plymouth sedan and a later taxi sighting in West Virginia (a crying girl in a dark green sedan with a man claiming she was his daughter) are central leads; a later “survival” claim tied to Harold Thomas Beck is unproven.
Notable examples
200–500+ volunteers searching 35 square miles; bloodhounds brought from New York; West Virginia taxi driver sighting at 11:38 p.m.; 2012 DNA efforts from cousins; 2014 false lead about a patient named Marjorie.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Disappearance of Marjorie West
1:26 to 2:24
Explore the mysterious case of Marjorie West's sudden disappearance.
“My name is Sarah Turney, and this is Voices for Justice.”
The West Family's Mother's Day Picnic
2:29 to 4:00
Discover the events leading up to Marjorie's disappearance during a family picnic.
“It's Sunday, May 8, 1938, Mother's Day, and in the Allegheny Forest of northwestern Pennsylvania, the West family is trying to enjoy what should have been a peaceful spring afternoon.”
Initial Search Efforts for Marjorie
4:00 to 5:56
Learn about the frantic search for Marjorie after she goes missing.
“Then at about 3 p.m., Cecilia West walked back toward the road to rest in the family car, while Shirley prepared to go trout fishing in the nearby stream with Lloyd.”
The Complicated Search and Investigation
9:18 to 13:52
Delve into the detailed search for Marjorie and the investigation processes.
“the most obvious explanation was also the most urgent one.”
The Disappearance of Marjorie West
14:02 to 16:24
Learn about the initial search efforts and the complexities surrounding Marjorie's disappearance.
“might do what people couldn't, find the trail of a four-year-old who had seemingly disappeared into thin air.”
Leads and Sightings in the Case
16:52 to 20:48
Explore the chilling sightings and leads investigators followed after Marjorie's disappearance.
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Community Response and Search Efforts
20:48 to 24:08
Understand the overwhelming community response and the efforts made to search for Marjorie.
“roads and trails waiting for the signal to enter the forest, and these search lines stretched for miles.”
Theories Surrounding Marjorie's Fate
24:08 to 28:00
Discuss the various theories about what happened to Marjorie West and the lack of evidence.
“been searched, the road had been scrutinized, the possible West Virginia sighting had been investigated, and still no one could say what happened to four-year-old Marjorie West.”
The Mystery of Marjorie West's Disappearance
28:00 to 31:44
Explore the unresolved case of Marjorie West, a child missing since 1938.
“Children were taken, records were altered, identities were erased, and families were lied to.”
The Human Cost of Marjorie's Disappearance
32:42 to 36:38
Understand the deep emotional impact of Marjorie's case on her family.
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Generational Trauma
36:38 to 37:04
Explore how Marjorie's case has affected her family across generations.
“She still thinks about it when she visits the area and drives by the woods where Marjorie went missing.”
Ongoing Efforts to Solve the Case
37:04 to 37:54
Discover what steps have been taken to keep Marjorie's case alive.
“Marjorie West is still listed as missing, and there have been efforts to keep the case alive.”
Hope for the Future
37:54 to 40:06
Reflect on the continued hope of finding Marjorie after decades.
“At this point, it's really become a series of hopes, each one rising and falling.”
The Emotional Impact of Marjorie's Case
42:05 to 46:08
Explore the emotional turmoil surrounding Marjorie's disappearance and its effects on her family.
“We've covered these other cases before where you see people bring out like the stadium lighting to the woods or whatever this desolate area might be.”
Media Discrepancies in Reporting
46:08 to 47:18
Discuss the discrepancies in media coverage regarding Marjorie's case.
“I don't know, there's something about when a child goes missing in the forest, right?”
The Heroes of Marjorie's Story
47:18 to 48:28
Honor the relentless efforts of Marjorie's family in keeping her memory alive.
“But other than that, it really wasn't too bad.”
Segment of Hope: Recent Amber Alert Success
48:28 to 50:15
Highlight a recent successful Amber Alert and the collaborative efforts that brought a family home.
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Transcript
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1:34Today I'm discussing the case of Marjorie West. There are some missing persons cases where the mystery begins hours later when someone fails to come home. But in Marjorie's case, the mystery began in seconds. One moment, the four-year-old was picking flowers for her mom on Mother's Day. The next, she was gone from a clearing in the Allegheny Forest. No one heard a scream. No one saw her run. No one saw anyone grab her. But within days, thousands of people would be searching the woods. Police would question motorists across hundreds of square miles. Bloodhounds would be brought in from New York.
2:15And investigators would be looking for the driver of a speeding Plymouth sedan. because what first appeared to be just a child lost in the forest soon became something much harder to explain. This is the case of Marjorie West. It's Sunday, May 8, 1938, Mother's Day, and in the Allegheny Forest of northwestern Pennsylvania, the West family is trying to enjoy what should have been a peaceful spring afternoon. That morning, Shirley and Cecilia West had taken their three children to church in Bradford, Pennsylvania. It's a small city in McKean County near the New York border, about 90 miles south of Buffalo.
2:57Bradford was an oil town, shaped by refineries, wooded hills, rough roads, and families who worked hard and built their lives around the rhythm of that region. The West family included. Shirley worked as an assistant engineer for Kendall Refining. But after church that Sunday, he and Cecilia decided to spend the holiday outdoors with their children. 11-year-old Dorothea, 7-year-old Alan, and their youngest, 4-year-old Marjorie. Marjorie was a very cute little girl with curly red hair and freckles, just weeks away from her fifth birthday. And that afternoon, nothing about the family's plans seemed dangerous.
3:35After church, they drove about 13 miles out of Bradford toward the white gravel area near Marshburg along Highway 219. It was the kind of place that local families knew well. a clearing in the Allegheny Forest near a stream popular with hunters and fishermen. And the West were meeting friends for a Mother's Day picnic, Helen and Lloyd Ackerland. So they get there, they meet up with their friends, and they start their picnic. Then at about 3 p.m., Cecilia West walked back toward the road to rest in the family car, while Shirley prepared to go trout fishing in the nearby stream with Lloyd. Dorothea and Marjorie stayed nearby doing something very simple and sweet, picking violets for their mom.
4:16They wanted to make her a Mother's Day bouquet, and the forest was filled with wildflowers. So before Shirley went to go fish, he did warn the girls to be careful. There were rattlesnakes near a boulder, and he told them to watch out. Basically, be careful, watch for snakes, and stay close. After they picked their violets, Dorothea started walking back toward the family car to bring them to her mom, Cecilia. And for a brief moment, Marjorie was behind her. Then Dorothea turned around, and Marjorie was gone. She wasn't hiding behind the boulder, she wasn't standing near the flowers, she wasn't walking toward the car, and she wasn't playing by the stream.
4:58Of course, her family called for her and searched that immediate area. They looked around the clearing, near the boulder, towards the woods, toward the road, and the longer they searched, the more frightening the silence became. When a four-year-old disappears in the woods, every possibility arrives at once. Maybe she wandered too far. Maybe she fell and got hurt. Maybe she was hiding and too scared to answer. Maybe she was moving farther away with every minute. And then there was the possibility no one wanted to say out loud. Maybe Marjorie didn't wander away at all. Maybe someone had taken her.
5:39They searched for as long as they could on their own, but they were in an isolated place, and there was no quick way to call for help from the picnic site. So the West family had to make a decision that no parent should ever have to make. To get help, they had to leave. They had to get in the car and drive away from the clearing where Marjorie had vanished, away from the woods where she might still be somewhere just out of sight, away from the road where if someone had taken her, every minute was carrying her farther away from home. Unfortunately, the nearest telephone was seven miles away, so Shirley and Cecilia West left the picnic area and drove to call the police in Kane, knowing that behind them was the last place anyone had seen their four-year-old daughter.
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9:17When Shirley and Cecilia West reached the phone and called the police in Kane, the most obvious explanation was also the most urgent one. Marjorie was four years old. She'd vanished into a rugged stretch of forest, and every minute passing made the situation more dangerous. Even if she'd only wandered a short distance, the area was rugged, wooded, and difficult to search. There was thick underbrush, rocks, streams, old wells, mine openings, caves, and uneven terrain. If she had just wandered away, she could be hurt. She could be lost. She could have fallen near the stream into thick brush or into one of the old wells or mine openings scattered throughout the area.
9:58And if she was scared, she might not even answer if searchers were calling her name. The first searchers moved through the area near the picnic site, looking for the most simple answer that everyone desperately wanted. A little girl hiding nearby, crying, cold, scared, but alive. But Marjorie was not found near the boulder. She wasn't found near the flowers, near the car, the stream, or the clearing. As the afternoon turned into evening, the search grew. Local men joined police in the woods. Members of the Civilian Conservation Corps came out to help, along with members of local fraternal organizations, including the moose and elk lodges.
10:39Before long, roughly 200 men were searching for Marjorie in the forest. Then, the sun set, and the forest became something else entirely. The Allegheny Forest was difficult enough to search in daylight. At night, it became darker, colder, and harder to navigate. Whale men brought in headlamps, flashlights were gathered and pressed into service, and hundreds of men moved through the woods calling the name of a child they'd never met, scanning the ground for any sign of her. a shoe, a scrap of fabric, a footprint, a sound. Then, around 1 a.m., it began to rain. This, of course, slowed the search efforts and made the conditions worse for everyone in those woods, especially for Marjorie if she was still out there somewhere.
11:26But they weren't giving up. By Monday morning, the search had expanded dramatically. Around 500 people joined in, combing through the forest, checking the stream, searching wells, caves, mines, and every other place a small child might have slipped, hidden, or become trapped. And for this being 1938, these searchers used what feels like pretty modern techniques. The men formed long lines moving through the landscape so that no patch of ground would be missed. And just like we see in modern cases, as people are still searching, police are investigating. They began questioning motorists across an area reportedly spanning 300 square miles.
12:05At this point, they're just trying to determine who was even in the area when Marjorie went missing. And that part matters, because from the beginning, the road was impossible to ignore. Like I told you earlier, Highway 219 ran near the picnic site. It's really the only connection between this isolated patch of forest to the outside world. So if Marjorie had wandered, the forest was the danger. But if someone had taken her, the road was the escape route. Still, in those early hours, searchers had to treat the woods as the most urgent possibility. We know that a lost kid can sometimes survive if they're found quickly, so they kept looking.
12:43They followed every possible track and every rumor of a clue. But the more they searched, the more unsettling the case became. Because there was no sign of Marjorie, no confirmed footprint trail leading deep into the woods, No clothing, no body, no sound. No place where searchers could say, this is where she went. And then came the detail that would haunt this case for decades. The flowers. Because those flowers that Marjorie had picked for her mom were found crushed near the road. Now, that doesn't prove what happened. It could mean a lot of things. It could mean that Marjorie dropped them while she was wandering.
13:24It could mean someone stepped on them during the confusion of the search. But if those flowers were really found near the road, then it raises a really terrible question. Why would Marjorie's Mother's Day bouquet even be there? It really enters a new world of possibilities. Had she walked toward the road on her own? Had someone called her over? Was she close enough to the road for a passing driver to see her? Or did something happen so quickly that the only thing left behind was a crushed handful of violets. By Tuesday, May 10th, police brought in bloodhounds from New York State. Of course, the hope was that the dogs might do what people couldn't, find the trail of a four-year-old who had seemingly disappeared into thin air.
14:09But even the bloodhound reports are complicated. Some accounts say that the dogs followed Marjorie sent up a mountain toward a cabin with its door nailed shut, though they say that nothing useful was found inside. Other accounts, including family accounts, say that the dogs followed her scent toward the road. And that difference obviously matters. A trail leading deeper into the woods suggests one kind of case. A trail leading to the road suggests something entirely different. By then, investigators were also hearing about cars that had passed through the area around the time Marjorie disappeared.
14:48Witnesses reportedly described three vehicles. Two of the drivers were identified. but the third was not. That third vehicle was described as a Plymouth sedan driven by a man. And according to reports, it had been moving so fast that another motorist had to pull into a ditch to avoid it. Now, I just want you to imagine being an investigator in that moment. You have a four-year-old little girl missing from a picnic site near a road. You have a massive search turning up nothing in the woods. You have flowers reportedly found near that road. You may have bloodhounds leading in that direction, and you have an unidentified man in a car reportedly speeding away around the same time Marjorie vanished.
15:35Suddenly, this no longer feels like only a search and rescue operation. It begins to look like a possible abduction. But if Marjorie had been taken by someone in that car, there was another horrifying reality. By the time her family reached the phone, by the time the police arrived, by the time the search grew larger, that car could have been miles away. And within days, a report from another state would make that possibility feel even more real. Because late on the night Marjorie disappeared, hundreds of miles from the picnic site, a taxi driver would say he saw something he could never forget.
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17:35on the night Marjorie disappeared, he saw a little girl crying in a dark green sedan with a man he did not know. The man was described as being in his 30s, and when the taxi driver spoke with him, the man reportedly said that the girl was his daughter. Now, it appears that the man was asking where he could find a nearby motel, so the taxi driver gave him a suggestion, and according to that account, the man left the child in the car while he went inside, but there were no vacancies. When he came back out, he asked about a liquor store, and the taxi driver directed him to a bar down the road. On the surface, it really does feel like a normal encounter, but the timing of this report was chilling.
18:19Investigators believe that the drive from the white gravel area in Pennsylvania to Thomas, West Virginia, could take about eight hours. Marjorie disappeared around 3 p.m. The taxi driver's sighting was around 11.38 p.m. that night. The timeline fit almost perfectly. If someone had taken Marjorie from the road near the picnic site, they could have reached Thomas by late that evening. And there was another reported detail that made this lead feel even more disturbing. A man matching the same general description reportedly stopped at a gas station outside of Thomas, and an attendant said that he saw a bundle wrapped in a gray blanket in the back seat of the car.
19:00Obviously, it's just terrifying. But for Marjorie's family and for investigators, this must have felt like the first real break in the case. Not just a rumor or a vague possibility, this was a little girl crying, a man with a car, a route that made sense, and a timeline that matched. But, like almost everything else in Marjorie's case, the lead didn't bring a clean answer. Some reports say that authorities could never conclusively confirm the identity of the man or the child. Other reporting later indicated that Bradford Police Chief Edward Edmonds said the West Virginia lead had been discounted after West Virginia State Police determined the man was a motorist traveling with an adopted daughter.
19:47Later accounts offered another possible explanation, that a West Virginia merchant named Conrad Fridley had been traveling that evening with his young daughter Lois, and that it was fog that had forced them to stop. According to that explanation, the girl seen that night was not Marjorie. But this is where the case becomes so frustrating. Because even if the West Virginia sighting was explained away, the larger question wasn't, who was the unidentified driver near the picnic site? Why was a Plymouth sedan reportedly speeding away from the area? And if it wasn't Marjorie in the car, who was it?
20:27Well, back in Pennsylvania, they were still looking for Marjorie, and the scale was hard to imagine. On Wednesday, Bradford's mayor, Hugh Ryan, called for 1 ,000 volunteers to help search the next day. He got 2 ,500. By early morning, surveyors were helping map the land. Searchers gathered around roads and trails waiting for the signal to enter the forest, and these search lines stretched for miles. Men moved shoulder to shoulder through the Allegheny woods. Refinery workers, veterans, coal miners, police, local residents, and people who had simply heard that a child was missing and came to help.
21:07There were also a ton of women preparing coffee in huge quantities for the volunteers. For a time before the internet, when phones were scarce, this community organized itself around one goal, bring Marjorie home. And I really do want to emphasize how hard this area was to search. This was rough terrain, tangled with underbrush. These searchers were killing rattlesnakes. They had to be careful around old wells. They were checking streams, caves, mine openings, brush, and ravines. And a lot of these areas were searched again and again because of how thick this brush was. Still, every promising discovery just collapsed.
21:50A piece of lace was found near the boulder, but Marjorie's aunt said that she'd not been wearing lace that day. A fresh hole was discovered several miles away, raising huge alarms. But two men later admitted they used it to hide casks of cherry wine. A muddy well was pumped out. They even explored the possibility that a bear may have carried Marjorie off. By the end of the first week, searchers had covered roughly 35 square miles, and there was still nothing. No Marjorie, no body, no confirmed evidence that she'd died in the woods, no confirmed evidence that she'd even left them. And for Shirley West, this search wasn't something he could step away from.
22:35Reports say that he stayed in the forest for a week. He just couldn't leave where Marjorie went missing from. When he did finally go home to eat, he went back right after. That image really stays with me. A dad in the woods, day after day, searching the same impossible landscape, knowing that every hour made it less likely that his daughter would be found alive. At home, Cecilia waited near the phone, terrified of missing a call. And that too is its own kind of torture. Once a case becomes public, every ring can feel like a salvation or devastation. A tip, a sighting, a demand, a cruel prank, but there was nothing.
23:20Police circulated descriptions of Marjorie. She had curly red hair and freckles. She was wearing a red Shirley Temple-style hat and patent leather shoes. But the more widely that Marjorie's story spread, the more theories and sightings began to pour in, and investigators were left trying to separate what was real from what was coincidence, confusion, or just wishful thinking. I think that's one of the hardest parts of a case like this. When a child disappears and no one knows where to look, every story feels possible. Every child seen crying in a car could be her. Every strange driver could be involved.
23:58Every old well could be the place everyone missed. As the case moved beyond those first desperate days, the investigation widened, the forest had been searched, the road had been scrutinized, the possible West Virginia sighting had been investigated, and still no one could say what happened to four-year-old Marjorie West. So the theories began to grow. The first possibility is one investigators had to consider immediately. Marjorie may have wandered into the woods and died from exposure, injury, or an accident. The area was dangerous. There were streams, old wells, mine openings, cave, thick brush, and rough terrain.
24:38A child could fall, become trapped, become disoriented, and move farther away from the people searching for her. It seems obvious, but the problem with the lost in the woods theory is that after all that searching, there was still no sign of Marjorie. They didn't find a scrap of clothing. There was no confirmed trail that explained where she went. According to C.L. Reese, Marjorie's relative, the search of the Allegheny National Forest continued for five months, but no additional clues were ever discovered. Now, that doesn't make the woods theory impossible. Forests can hide things for years, old wells and hidden hazards can be missed, but it does make the lack of evidence hard to ignore.
25:24The second possibility was an animal attack. This was also considered in the early search. there were rattlesnakes in the area. And like I said, searchers even looked into possibilities involving bears. But again, there was no evidence with this theory either. There was no blood, no clothing, no sign that an animal had carried Marjorie away. And with so many people searching so intensely, that explanation never fully answered the question of why nothing was found. The third possibility, and the one that has stayed with this case for nearly 90 years, is abduction. That theory is built on several details that are individually uncertain, but together, hard to dismiss.
26:08Marjorie vanished within moments. Her crushed bouquet of violets was found near the road. Some accounts say that bloodhounds followed her scent toward the road. Witnesses reported a Plymouth sedan driven by a man speeding away from the area around the time Marjorie disappeared. And later that night, a taxi driver in Thomas, West Virginia, reported seeing a crying little girl in a car with a man who claimed she was his daughter. Again, none of that proves that Marjorie was abducted, but it explains why so many people, including some who searched for her, came to believe she may not have been in the forest at all.
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26:44According to reporting by The Guardian, a Bradford teacher named Tammy Dittman once spoke to an elderly man who had searched for Marjorie when he was young. He was blind by then, near the end of his life, and he still reached out after hearing about the case being researched again. According to Dittman, the man told her there was no way that Marjorie could have been in the woods. That kind of detail tells you that this case didn't just haunt Marjorie's family, it haunted the people who searched for her too. It feels like if you were there, if you walked those woods shoulder to shoulder, if you looked in the wells and the brush and the streams and came home with nothing, you would have to live with the same question everyone else did.
27:25Was Marjorie ever there to even find? Now, I do want to talk about some other theories as well, because that's pretty much all we're left with in this case. Some people questioned whether she could have been abducted and placed into an illegal adoption. And that's not a random theory. That comes from the historical reality of the time. See, in later years, the public learned about Georgia Tann and the Tennessee Children's Home Society. This is where children were stolen or illegally taken from families and placed for adoption. Now, there is no evidence tying Marjorie to Tan, but the reason this theory persists is because of the broader system.
28:03Children were taken, records were altered, identities were erased, and families were lied to. When you're looking at a four-year-old girl who vanished in 1938 who was never found, whose body was never recovered, and whose case never had a confirmed resolution, the possibility that she survived under another name is hard for people to completely let go of. Then, decades later, that possibility became even more intense because of a man named Harold Thomas Beck, also known as Bud. Beck was a local writer and college professor who researched Marjorie's case. Around 1998, he posted a$10 ,000 reward for information and included updated photos of Marjorie's sister, Dorothea, hoping that if Marjorie had survived, she might resemble her older sister.
28:52And a woman eventually contacted him. She said that she'd worked with a nurse in Florida who looked similar to Dorothea. So Beck traveled south, met with the nurse, and thought that she did look like Dorothea, though at first she did deny being Marjorie. But years later, according to Beck, the woman contacted him again. This time he met her at her childhood farm in North Carolina, where she allegedly told him a story her mother had revealed near the end of her life. That story was that in 1938, the woman's father had driven north to work in the Bradford refineries. On Mother's Day, while driving south past the Allegheny Forest, he hit a little girl.
29:33He thought she might have been dead or badly injured, so he put her in his car to take her to a hospital, but during the drive, the child woke up and seemed unharmed. According to Beck's account, the man and his wife had recently lost their only daughter, so they decided to keep the child and raise her as their own. Obviously, this is a stunning claim if true. It would mean that Marjorie survived. It would mean she wasn't taken by a stranger who planned an abduction, but by a man who made one catastrophic decision after another. It would mean she grew up in another family with another name, while Shirley and Cecilia West searched and waited and wondered for the rest of their lives.
30:21But I want to be crystal clear. This claim has never been proven. And this is important to discuss, because C.L. Reese, Marjorie's relative, wrote that while Beck insisted that the woman he spoke to was Marjorie, local authorities, and family members, including Reese, have questioned the validity of this conclusion. Reese also notes that Beck never formally brought his findings to the police. So that story stays exactly that, a story. A compelling one, an emotional one, maybe even a possible one, but not a confirmed answer. And in a case like this, that distinction matters. Because Marjorie West wasn't a legend.
31:06She's not folklore. She's a real child with a real family. Her family deserves more than a theory that sounds good. They deserve evidence. They deserve confirmation. They deserve the truth. By the time we reach this point in Marjorie's case, there are so many possibilities that it almost becomes overwhelming. But every theory runs into the same wall. No one can prove it. And after nearly 90 years, the most painful part of this case may be that the answer has always felt close enough to imagine, but never close enough to hold. Where is Daredevil? I'm right here. Don't miss the return of Marvel Television's Daredevil Born So what's next?
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32:35Who knew your questionable music taste would be a money-making machine? Your style can make you cash. Start selling on Depop, where taste recognizes taste. When we talk about Marjorie West's disappearance, it's easy to focus on the mystery. The flowers, the road, the Plymouth, the sighting, the theories. But at the center of all of this was a family that lost a four-year-old child on Mother's Day and never got her back. Shirley and Cecilia didn't just lose Marjorie in those first hours. They lost the rest of their lives to uncertainty. Every phone call could have been the one. Every reported sighting could have been real.
33:15Every child who looked like Marjorie might have reopened that wound. CL Reese, who is related to Marjorie, wrote a Medium article in 2023 called Still Missing 85 Years Later, The Unsolved Case of My Cousin Marjorie West. And I want to give that piece a real shout out here, because as we know, that offers something that newspaper archives can't, the family memory of this case. Reese writes that her grandpa Charles was only six years old when Marjorie disappeared, but even in the final years of his life, he still spoke about it. He remembered Shirley West refusing to leave the forest for a week.
33:53He remembered Cecilia weeping to authorities and begging them to bring her daughter home. And he remembered that Cecilia was so grief-stricken she could barely speak a month later on what would have been Marjorie's fifth birthday. According to Reese, Cecilia never recovered for the remainder of her life. That is the human cost of an unsolved case. That is the ripple effect. It's not just the day someone disappears. It's every birthday after, every holiday after, every Mother's Day after. It's the room that stays empty, the photograph that becomes frozen in time, the younger child who never turns five while everyone around her grows older.
34:38And then there's Dorothea. She was 11 when Marjorie vanished. She was the older sister who walked away for just a moment to bring flowers to their mom. She was just a kid herself, but according to family accounts, she carried guilt for the rest of her life. That Guardian article includes a statement from Dorothea's granddaughter, Angel, who wrote in 2009 that she remembered listening to her grandmother talk about Marjorie and the sadness she felt for leaving her sister alone for those few moments. Angel wrote that Dorothea held onto that feeling of responsibility until her death. It's heartbreaking, because I think we all know that she was not responsible for what happened.
35:23But trauma doesn't always care about what's fair. It attaches itself to moments, to choices, to things that feel unbearable in hindsight. For Dorothea, those few seconds became a lifetime.
35:41Another family descendant, Catherine, the daughter of Marjorie's first cousin, Joyce, wrote about her own grandfather continuing to search long after the official manhunt ended. She says he would get home late at night after looking for Marjorie. The kids would wait on the steps of the porch waiting for any news, but they say that they could tell from the slope of his shoulders that he hadn't found Marjorie. To me, this image says so much about what it's like to be a family member in true crime. A man coming home night after night with no answer. His kids watching his body language before he even speaks.
36:16Really, a family learning over and over again that Marjorie was still missing. I often talk about the ripple effect of true crime and how this becomes generational, and Marjorie's case is the perfect example of that. Even generations later, this case has stayed with this family. Reese writes that even though she was born almost 50 years after Marjorie disappeared, the story has always stayed with her. She still thinks about it when she visits the area and drives by the woods where Marjorie went missing. That's why family voices matter so much in older cases. They remind us that even when a case is 85 or 90 years old, it's not just history.
36:57It's inheritance. its grief passed down because answers never came. Which brings me right to our call to action. Marjorie West is still listed as missing, and there have been efforts to keep the case alive. According to The Guardian, descendants contacted authorities in 2010, and because state police couldn't locate the old records, they opened a new case file. In 2012, Pennsylvania State Police got DNA from two cousins in Bradford. So far, that has not produced any answers. But we know that doesn't mean that it won't. Tips have continued to come in over the years. In 2014, a hospital employee in New York contacted authorities about a patient named Marjorie who rarely had visitors.
37:43That woman ultimately was not Marjorie. But it just shows that sharing these cases can produce new tips. So please share. That's exactly what we need in this case. At this point, it's really become a series of hopes, each one rising and falling. A sighting, a rumor, a woman who looks like Dorothea, a patient named Marjorie, a story about a child raised somewhere else. Each time the possibility appears, each time the family has to wonder if this is finally it, and each time the answer doesn't come, the silence gets longer. After all these years, we still don't know what happened to Marjorie West.
38:24but that doesn't mean that there isn't hope. So please share. I truly believe that the answer is still out there. Maybe it's in a police file, a family secret, a box of photographs, or a story someone has been carrying for far too long. And if it is, it's time for Marjorie to come home.
38:54As a reminder, Marjorie West was four years old when she disappeared on May 8, 1938, from Hamilton Township, Pennsylvania, near the white gravel area of the Allegheny Forest. At that time, Marjorie had curly red hair and freckles. She was last seen wearing a blue dress, a red hat, and a navy blue mid-length coat with a pink collar. Reports also described her as wearing patent leather shoes and a red Shirley Temple style hat. If you have any information, please contact the Pennsylvania State Police at 814-938-0510 or the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at 1-800-THE-LOST. But as always, thank you, I love you, and I'll talk to you next time.
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40:53Welcome to the Secret After Show. The studio door has been opened, and our emotional support puppies, Popcorn and Heber, are in the room. Obviously, I covered this case because Mother's Day just passed, and when I heard about Marjorie West, my heart shattered. Especially, you guys know, I like to talk about the ripple effect. I like to talk about how this does become a generational thing. And it's not to make you sad. It's to make you understand the reality of true crime. And I get it. Like, you guys are smart. You guys are compassionate. You know these things. But I feel like there's something about these cases going on for almost 100 years that I think really dials in that message.
41:41Now, of course, because this was 1938, there were some pretty compelling elements here that I feel made this case pretty unique. I mean, any case, I should say, you know, dating back this far. But when I was reading about how they had to like bring in the oil lamps and how they had to try to like gather up flashlights from people, it like really hit me. Because we've seen this, right? We've covered other cases before. We isn't me and the dogs. We've covered these other cases before where you see people bring out like the stadium lighting to the woods or whatever this desolate area might be. And here they're just trying to find freaking flashlights.
42:22Something about that just really stuck with me and made me think about like how hard a search like this would have been in the 1930s. Of course, the next thing I have in my list is Shirley staying in the woods. Broke my heart. I had to rerecord that section several times because I could not stop crying. To think about this man just not leaving the woods for an entire week and only going back to eat and going immediately back out just breaks my heart. And especially, I think it's because, like, it happened on Mother's Day, right? So I'm sure he's just thinking of Cecilia trying to bring Marjorie back home.
43:07And I have to imagine he's also thinking, like, hopefully we can bring her home by Father's Day coming up in a few weeks and just something about the situation and the time period just made me extremely emotional you know what i can't stop thinking about are the crushed flowers found i wonder what happened to them i don't i just like something i'm like where did they end up like i get it like it's obviously like a very crucial you know clue or point or at least it can be but i keep thinking what happened to them. And I just really hope that Cecilia got to keep them in the end. I mean, as much as I would love for them to be like retained for forensic evidence, I have to imagine after like a hundred years, pretty much, they probably disintegrated.
43:55So I hope, I don't know, that she got like one violet maybe to like press in a book or something. I just, I wonder what happened to all this evidence from 1938, if in, I think it was 2012, they had to like basically reopen the case and start a brand new case file because all the records were gone, I have to imagine that there's just no evidence left. And of course, Dorothea's guilt. So I have like a priority system when I cover cases, right? About like, who do I prioritize? Because there's a lot of things, right? You have law enforcement, you have families, you have the victim. Like, which do you prioritize?
44:37And for me, it goes the victim, the family, and then law enforcement. So hearing about Dorothea having this guilt for the rest of her life was something I really wanted to tell you guys about, because that's important. And that's exactly why I do this show. this is exactly why I wanted to cover only unsolved cases. Because yes, as much as I would love for like Marjorie to be found, right? I think the next best hope is that these families, people like Dorothea, you know, I know she's since passed, but the remaining descendants of Marjorie's, that they get these answers, that we can stop this generational legacy of handing down this, you know, guilt and responsibility and just the unknowing.
45:32Like, that's the goal. Of course, we want to bring the victim home first. That would be amazing. Next, we want to bring answers to the family. I don't know. I just really hope that this episode makes more people aware of this case, makes people share, because I do feel like this truly could be one of those cases where, like, someone's cleaning out their grandparents' house, they find an old box of photos, and then bam, they find somebody who looks like Marjorie. I think it's possible. Call me idealistic, call me whatever you want, I think it's possible. I don't know, there's something about when a child goes missing in the forest, right?
46:18Because we see that, gosh, I think I've covered more than a handful of cases like this, where a child or children go missing and they could be in the nearby woods. And there's just not a shred left. And I don't know, it just always makes me feel like it's possible that they're still out there somewhere. Because like, how does a child get lost without snagging their dress or their coat on like a twig? How do they get carried away by an animal without them leaving a trail, right? We know that like a bear is not going to go back and like cover up its tracks. Like, how do these things happen? How are these kids going messing around these rural areas and not leaving a single trace.
46:59For me, it makes me want to look in another direction. Now let's talk about media discrepancies. Luckily, there wasn't a lot. It was the bloodhound trail that I told you about. Some say that the scent went up towards the cabin, others say it went to the road. I think it's just kind of an indicator of this being an older case and different reporting happening at different newspapers. But other than that, it really wasn't too bad. now on to our heroes of the episode of course I have to put you know Marjorie's parents Shirley and Cecilia Shirley was out in the woods and looking for Marjorie every single day day and night and Cecilia was by the phone and I'm not gonna lie I feel like being in the woods would almost be easier I mean both are impossible don't get me wrong please don't take it the wrong way but I think exerting some type of physical energy would probably make you more exhausted versus me if I had to sit by the phone every day and do nothing I would lose my mind.
48:01So they make our heroes of the episode for very obvious reasons they searched so hard for so long. I also want to make our heroes of the episode all of Marjorie's relatives who continue to talk about her even today. Like I said, the most recent article was from like three years ago, which is insane for a case that's nearly 90 years old. So amazing job to all of them for keeping this case out there. On to our segment of hope. This is from NewYorkUpstate.com, published on May 10, 2026. The title reads, Three Arrested After Mother, Children Found Safe Following Upstate New York Amber Alert. Now this one is scary.
48:45It says, Rochester, New York, Monroe County Sheriff's deputies arrested three men and safely removed a mother and her two young children following an abduction Saturday that led to an Amber Alert. So literally like through Mother's Day. But it says deputies responded to a home in Parenton at 3.19 p.m. after receiving reports that the woman and children had been taken by a family member who planned to leave the area. Officers found the victims uninjured, thank goodness, at a Rochester residence later that day. The men's names are Gamil S. Ahmed, age 31, Omar Saleh, age 30, and Dejour Al-Paul, age 26.
49:28They were all arrested and charged with three counts of second-degree kidnapping. And it looks like investigators used neighborhood camera footage to identify the vehicles and people involved in the abduction. So shout out to all the people that gave their camera footage to help solve this case and bring these people home unharmed. And it looks like they moved really quickly. It was the sheriff's office, the FBI, the U.S. Marshals Service, New York State Police, and Canada Border Services Agency. They issued the Amber Alert, the tips came in, and they brought them home. That's why it makes our segment of hope.
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On Mother’s Day in 1938, 4-year-old Marjorie West was picking wildflowers with her sister in the Allegheny Forest when she vanished.
Within minutes, her family was searching. Within hours, hundreds of people were combing the woods. And within days, thousands of volunteers, law enforcement officers, and even the National Guard would join one of the largest searches Pennsylvania had ever seen.
But despite the massive effort, no trace of Marjorie was ever found.
Nearly 90 years later, her disappearance remains one of the most haunting missing child cases in American history.
Was Marjorie lost in the forest? Was she taken? And how does a little girl vanish in broad daylight, surrounded by family, on what should have been a peaceful Mother’s Day outing?
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