The Boca Raton Mall Kidnappings

19 Dec 2025 · 47 min

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Episode Overview

  • Title: The Boca Raton Mall Kidnappings
  • Host: Sarah Turney
  • Description: In 2007, Boca Raton, Florida, experienced a series of kidnappings and brutal attacks at its Town Center Mall, targeting mothers during daytime shopping. Despite a cold-blooded sociopath being suspected, nearly 20 years later, it remains unclear if all cases are interconnected.

Key Cases Discussed The episode covers three main kidnapping incidents that occurred in Boca Raton Mall:

  1. Randy Gorenberg (March 23, 2007)
  2. Victim: 52-year-old Randy Gorenberg.
  3. Incident Details:
  4. Last seen on CCTV leaving the mall after purchasing items.
  5. Abducted from the parking garage and later found shot dead in a park.
  6. Investigators theorize she was targeted due to her affluent appearance.
  7. Perpetrator's vehicle (a black Mercedes SUV) was found abandoned.
  8. DNA and bullet casings were recovered but no matches were found.
  9. Motive: Initially thought to be robbery, remains unclear.
  1. Jane Doe (August 7, 2007)
  2. Victim: A 30-year-old mother shopping with her 2-year-old son.
  3. Incident Details:
  4. Kidnapped while loading her son into the car.
  5. Forced to withdraw $600 from ATMs.
  6. Bound with zip ties and duct tape.
  7. Managed to escape after being released back at the mall.
  8. Aftermath: Initially not believed by police; later corroborated by ATM data.
  1. Nancy Bukikio & Joey (December 12, 2007)
  2. Victim: 47-year-old Nancy and her 7-year-old daughter Joey.
  3. Incident Details:
  4. Kidnapped shortly after leaving the mall.
  5. Withdrawn $500 from an ATM before being found dead in their SUV later that night.
  6. Condition: Bound and shot, showing similarities to previous cases.

Investigative Challenges

  • Lack of Surveillance: The mall lacked adequate surveillance cameras in critical areas, hindering investigations.
  • Conflicting Theories: Investigators are divided on whether the attacks are connected due to differing methods and circumstances.
  • Public Skepticism: Jane Doe's story faced initial disbelief, complicating her case.

Legal and Community Impact

  • Lawsuits Against Mall Ownership: Families filed civil lawsuits against Simon Property Group for inadequate security, leading to settlements and the implementation of more safety measures.
  • Cold Cases: Despite years passing, all cases remain unsolved, leaving families in search of justice.

Key Takeaways

  • Trauma and Fear: Survivors and families continue to deal with the trauma of the incidents, highlighting the ongoing impact of violent crime.
  • Importance of Advocacy: The episode emphasizes the need for communities to advocate for safety and justice for victims.
  • Call to Action: Listeners are encouraged to share sketches and information about cases to help bring closure to victims' families.

Conclusion

  • Final Thoughts: The episode encapsulates the horror of the Boca Raton Mall kidnappings and the unresolved nature of these cases. It serves as a reminder of the importance of community vigilance and the ongoing fight for justice in unsolved crimes.

Additional Information

  • Crime Stoppers Tip Line: 1-800-458-TIPS for anyone with information related to the cases.
  • Podcast Links:
  • Website: [Voices for Justice](https://www.voicesforjusticepodcast.com)
  • Support: [Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/voicesforjustice)

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1:23My name is Sarah Turney, and this is Voices for Justice.

1:32Today, I'm discussing the Boca Raton Mall kidnappings. In 2007, the community of Boca Raton, Florida, was gripped by terror when a series of brutal attacks and kidnappings struck the Town Center Mall. Over the span of just nine months, three separate incidents targeted mothers shopping in the middle of the day. While some investigators have said that there is a hunter of women on the loose, someone they call a cold-blooded calculating sociopath, nearly 20 years later, there's still debate about whether the crimes are related. This is the Boca Raton Mall kidnappings. On Friday, March 23, 2007, the terrifying last moments of 52-year-old Randy Gorenberg's life were documented in a 911 call.

2:23The call was placed at 1.54 p.m. near Governor Lawton Chiles Memorial Park in Delray Beach, Florida. The caller said they heard two gunshots, then saw a woman being pushed out of the front passenger door of a moving black Mercedes SUV. The SUV then backed up and fled the scene. It was clear that the woman on the ground had been shot in the head and was deceased. It was the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office who responded to the call. The first thing they noticed was that Randy was found without her shoes, her black and white pumas, and she didn't have any ID on her. But whoever did this left her Cartier watch and her diamond necklace untouched.

3:05At this point, the motive for her murder is unclear, and Randy has not yet been identified. But just minutes after deputies got to the park and secured the scene, the black Mercedes SUV was found abandoned a few miles away behind a Home Depot store. It turns out that the SUV was registered to Randy Gorenberg, which is how they ultimately identified her. Randy's mother, I.D. Elias, told WPTV News that she remembers watching the news that night and seeing the deputies recovered a woman's body in the park. Not long after, she got the call that it was her daughter. She said it was the worst day of her life.

3:42After speaking with Randy's friends and family and reviewing video surveillance, eventually detectives were able to piece together her movements for that day. Ironically, that morning, Randy was at home, comforting a mother who'd recently lost her daughter. That afternoon, she decided to go to Town Center at Boca Raton, a high-end shopping mall. There, she bought a John Legend CD and a blouse from Old Navy. Video surveillance captured her leaving the mall at about 1.15 p.m. In the footage, she pauses for a moment, checks her voicemail on her cell phone, and then walks out of frame towards her black Mercedes SUV in the parking garage.

4:20Unfortunately, there were no cameras where she was parked, but investigators believe Randy was kidnapped in the parking garage. And it seems that investigators couldn't track Randy's cell phone, because no one knows what happened to her from the time she left the mall to when she was shot at the park. But investigators do have a theory. They believe Randy may have been targeted due to her high-end appearance and belongings. She was wearing nice clothing, carrying an expensive purse, and walking to a luxury vehicle. They think it's possible that Randy was taken and driven to an ATM where a kidnapper asked her to withdraw cash, but Randy didn't have a debit card or ATM card.

4:59They believe this may have upset her kidnapper, and when they got to the park about five miles away from the mall, she may have been in the process of removing her shoes, maybe that diamond necklace and Cartier watch, when Randy attempted to escape the vehicle and was shot twice in the head. Then the kidnapper abandoned the SUV behind the Home Depot, escaping with Randy's shoes, cell phone, purse, and wallet. Those items have never been recovered. And while video footage did capture the perpetrator driving Randy's SUV in the parking lot, they weren't able to get a good look at who was driving.

5:34Now, investigators say that they were able to recover quite a bit of DNA from the vehicle, and at least one of the bullet casings used to shoot Randy, but they weren't able to make a match. It seemed like a robbery gone wrong. But then, just a few months later, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office got the call that there was another kidnapping at the same mall. Verbo's last-minute deals make chasing fresh mountain powder incredibly easy. With thousands of homes close to the slopes, you can get Epic Pow, Freshies, First Tracks, and more. Find last-minute deals with the last-minute filter on the app.

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6:54Jane samples some perfume and makes a few purchases, including a baseball hat. In reporting by Dennis Murphy for NBC News, Jane said it was pretty common for parents to take their kids to the mall just to get out of the house and beat the Florida heat. After they hang out for a bit and do a little shopping, Jane and her son leave the mall at about 1 p.m. She begins pushing his stroller towards their black Lincoln Navigator SUV in the Nordstrom parking lot, having no idea that someone was watching and waiting. Jane truly experiences every mother's worst nightmare. The first thing she does is buckle her son into his car seat in the back rear passenger side of the vehicle.

7:33And as she's loading up their packages and his stroller into the trunk, she hears her son saying, Mama, Mama, but not in the normal he-just-wants-mom type of way. Jane said she could immediately tell that her son was scared. When she goes to check on him, she sees a man sitting right next to her son, and she just freezes in shock. The man told her to get in the car, but she's still frozen in fear. He tells her again to get in the car, and she says that that's when she sees that the man is pointing a gun at her two-year-old's head. Again, just absolutely the stuff of nightmares. In just the few seconds it took her to load up her trunk, the man had snuck into the backseat with her son She immediately begs this man to not hurt them She says she'll do anything he wants The man then tells her to drive away from the mall and find a drive-thru ATM to get him cash Jane does this and withdraws$200 He then has her withdraw another$200 and then another$200 After getting the$600, he asked Jane to withdraw$800, but the request was denied, stating that Jane had reached the limit for withdrawals for the day.

8:49It's at this point that Jane says she's thinking this man is now going to kill her and her son, but he doesn't. He tells her to just keep following his instructions and he'll take them back to the mall. From here, the man begins giving Jane instructions on where to drive, and she pulls into midday traffic. There are people all around her, but the windows of her SUV were heavily tinted, so no one sees her panicking, they don't see this man in the backseat with her son, who was luckily sound asleep at this point. Jane told Dennis Murphy that she thought about crashing her SUV, but was afraid that the man might get mad and hurt her son.

9:26So she just follows instructions. And eventually, after a bit of driving, the man tells Jane to pull into the back parking lot of a Hilton hotel and get out of the vehicle. This is when she begins begging for her life. But Jane says the man told her he wasn't going to kill her and that he didn't need any more problems than he already had or any more trouble than he was already in. The reason he made her pull over was so that they could swap positions in the vehicle. He makes Jane get into the backseat with her son, and then things got even scarier. In that same reporting for NBC News, Jane said, quote, I see him pull out a pair of handcuffs, and he handcuffs my wrist behind my back and he pulls out a bag of zip ties and he zip ties my ankles together and then zip ties my neck to the headrest and he takes out a pair of darkened sunglasses with duct tape I'm guessing and puts them on my eyes so now I'm blindfolded I started losing it and I started choking choking myself because the zip tie was so tight you know, I was choking myself and I couldn't breathe and gagging and crying I was just hysterical End quote.

10:37And to her surprise, the man loosens the zip tie around her neck and asks if that was better. She says yes. He then pulls into traffic, but again he stops, pulls out a plastic bag, reaches in, and pulls out a knife. At this point, Jane says that again she begins begging for her life, and the man calmly reassures her that he isn't going to kill her. He tells her to stay still and cuts the zip tie off of her neck. and then continues to drive. But the man seems to have accidentally pulled onto a toll road, the Florida Turnpike. Obviously, he doesn't want any record of this kidnapping to exist, so he makes a U-turn.

11:17And this is when the baby's bottle falls to the ground and he begins crying. It seems that while Jane's eyes are covered with these glasses, she's still able to see some of what's going on. She says she saw the bottle roll under the driver's seat, and to her surprise, the man grabs the bottle and hands it back to the baby, who then stops crying. Now all of this goes on for about two hours before the man takes Jane and her son back to the mall. When they park, the man tells Jane that he's going to put the zip tie back around her neck, but that he's also going to let her call someone to tell them that her vehicle broke down and she and her son need a ride, basically so someone could find her.

11:58And he does. He grabs Jane's cell phone and she asks him to call her son's father. The call connects, Jane tells him that her vehicle was broken down and asks him to come pick them up. Before the man leaves, he gives Jane one last instruction. He tells her that when the police come, she needs to tell them that the man who kidnapped them was short, fat, and black. Then he takes the sunglasses off of Jane and replaces them with a pair of blacked out swimming goggles. After that, he tells her that he's taken her ID and if he sees his face on the news, he will come after her. Then he slams the door and leaves.

12:37So Jane is back at the mall in her SUV with her son, hands bound behind her back, zip-tied to the seat, waiting for her son's father to find them in the parking lot. But obviously she's terrified and begins trying to escape her restraints. So she slips her hands down from behind her back, under her butt, and rolls her feet and legs through her arms. With her hands now in front of her, she removes the goggles and the headrest from the seat. She's still handcuffed in the front, but she's free. So she jumps into the driver's seat, speeds to the valet parking stand, and asks them to call the police, telling them that she'd just been kidnapped.

13:15Now Jane says that at first, the man thought it was a joke, and then she showed him the restraints. When officers finally arrive, she tells them everything that happened. She shows them the scrapes on her neck and her arms, and they don't believe her. Specifically, they question her story about escaping from the vehicle after the man left. She says they told her that to do that, she'd have to be Houdini. But she pushes back, attributing her flexibility to doing a lot of yoga. But still, the police don't believe her. And remember, at one point, the man took Jane's SUV onto a toll road, So the police look into her SunPass account.

13:58Essentially, if she'd pulled onto this toll road, the SunPass device on her windshield would have been activated, and a debit should have been seen on the account. So police go to confirm this part of Jane's story, and they say that there was no debit during the time frame Jane says she was kidnapped. At the same time, Boca Raton police captain Matthew Duggan said that they weren't completely discounting her story. He says they were just trying to verify it and gather evidence to be used against the kidnapper. So they process her vehicle for DNA evidence and fingerprints, and then they ask Jane to take a polygraph test.

14:35I can't even imagine the outrage she must have felt at this point. But she says absolutely she has nothing to hide. Now, this ordeal did make the news, but at this point, due to the skepticism around Jane's story, it's basically reported as an alleged abduction, and it doesn't get a lot of airtime. But as investigators keep digging into Jane's story and begin to trace the route the kidnapper took, it became crystal clear that Jane was not lying. They found video surveillance of her vehicle going through the toll plaza. It seems that her SunPass device had malfunctioned. Just like in the case of Randy Gorenberg, they had some video to confirm the story, but since the mall didn't have cameras in the parking areas, they have no video of the kidnapper.

15:24But Jane was able to give a description of the man who took her. She said he had dark golden skin, was possibly Hispanic, about 5 '11 with a regular build, maybe in his late 20s or early 30s, he had hardly any facial hair, and what she described as a baby face. His hair was long and curly and placed into a ponytail at the base of his neck, and he was wearing a fully brimmed floppy hat and wraparound sunglasses. A sketch was made and distributed, but Jane says her case just sat for months. Then in November, she got a call from a detective with the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. He told her that they were working on a case that began at the same mall, Randy Gorenberg's case.

16:06He wanted to ask her a few questions, and Jane was more than happy to help. But just as investigators began to work Randy and Jane's cases as possibly being connected, they were notified of a third incident at the mall.

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17:50When Nancy was 40 years old, she was told that she wasn't able to have children. Little did her doctors know that she'd have a baby close to Christmas Day. Nancy's sister Joanne told NBC News that they all considered Joey to be a miracle, and their Christmas angel. Joanne said Joey loved being the center of attention. She loved dancing and was a budding golfer. By all accounts, Joey was the center of Nancy's life as a single mother. They were captured on surveillance at the mall as they passed by the Sony store on their way to the food court, and at 3 p.m., mother and daughter were seen leaving the mall through the same camera at the same door Randy Gorenberg was earlier that year.

18:32Despite the two prior incidents in just the last few months, there were still no cameras in the parking areas of the mall. So what exactly happens next is unclear. But here's what we do know. Just minutes after Nancy and Joey leave the mall, a call is made to 911 from Nancy's cell phone. It only lasts a few seconds, and the operator can't hear anyone speaking before the call abruptly ends. A few minutes after that, Nancy's black Chrysler Aspen SUV is seen at a drive-thru ATM, the same drive-thru ATM Jane Doe used when she and her son were taken. From here,$500 is withdrawn from Nancy's account.

19:15No one knows exactly what happened after this, but shortly before midnight, a security guard at the mall finds their SUV parked and idling. When he looks in the back seat, he sees Nancy and Joey bound. Both had been shot in the head. Again, just absolutely horrific. And when investigators get to the mall, they see an eerily similar scene to that of Jane Doe. Whoever did this seems to have had the same type of kidnapping kit, if you will. This time, the person also used duct tape, but they also found handcuffs, zip ties, and blacked-out swim goggles. Unlike with Jane Doe, their hands were cuffed in front of them, but Nancy's head was tied to the headrest.

20:01And one of the most heart-wrenching aspects of this case that I think I've ever, ever heard is that investigators say that Nancy's handcuffs were broken, and her sister believes that shows that she died fighting to protect Joey. And unfortunately, like the two other incidents, while DNA and Prince were recovered, nothing has been matched to a perpetrator. Now, police have given limited details on how they made this discovery, but they weren't able to track the purchase of that duct tape and the plastic zip ties to a home improvement chain in Miami-Dade County. But they aren't saying which one, so it's unclear if it was another Home Depot or a different chain.

20:42And within just days of the murders, Nancy's cell phone and credit cards were found in a vacant lot in Miami, about 60 miles south of the mall. but investigator Matthew Duggan says that he doesn't know if this was meant to send them on a wild goose chase, or if whoever did this possibly tossed those items out on their way home. It's also worth noting that this area has been described as a predominantly black neighborhood, leading investigators to believe that if the crimes are connected, whoever did this was trying to place the blame on a black male. Remember, we know that Jane Doe also said that her kidnapper instructed her to tell the police that he was short, black, and fat, when she believed him to be Hispanic.

21:23Now, the police go back to Jane and ask her to work with another forensic artist to create a second sketch of what this man may have looked like. And this time, they put everything they have into getting it out there. They put it on billboards, posters, and put it up in the mall. And it's around this time that investigators begin to make a possible connection to a fourth incident, one from August, just a few days after Jane Doe and her son were taken. This time, it was at Menzer Park in Boca Raton, another upscale shopping area. Here, a man with a gun approached a woman in the parking garage and demanded she drive him to an ATM machine.

22:02But the woman refused. According to Captain Matthew Duggan's statements to NBC News, she says no, throws her purse into the passenger seat of the car, gives him$200, and tells him to go away. And the man does. According to Duggan, the woman refused to file a report until she saw the news about Nancy and Joy Pekikio and thought the incidents may be related. And you guys, when she gives investigators a description of this man, it matches the description of Jane Doe's kidnapper perfectly. But the cases just sit. And investigators are torn as to whether or not the four incidents are connected to the same perpetrator.

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24:12So for the purposes of discussing what may have happened here, just know that I'm specifically talking about Randy Gorenberg, the woman found in the park, Jane Doe and her son who survived, and Nancy and Joy Pachikio, who unfortunately did not. Investigators on this task force say that Randy Gorenberg's murder was not forensically linked to the other cases. Unfortunately, they don't go into a lot of detail. Captain Matt Duggan just said, quote, by the time forensics came in, we felt comfortable in saying that the cases are not linked. Plus, both investigations appear to be heading in different directions, end quote.

24:50This and the fact that Randy was not bound in her vehicle like the other victims led them to pursue different theories. And this is where things get complicated, specifically in Randy's case. Some investigators believe that Randy may not have been the target of the attack. They learn that Randy's husband, Dr. Stuart Gorenberg, was allegedly paying for the services of sex workers prior to his wife's murder. He was apparently using their Mercedes SUV to travel through some of the quote, seedier streets, end quote, of nearby Broward County. The idea is that he was followed back to their very nice 7 ,000 square foot home with the plan to rob him in the future.

25:32Instead, they found Randy at the mall. The other theory is that her husband and or their 25-year-old son, Daniel, may be involved in some way. Investigators have scrutinized Stewart's response to Randy's murder, saying it was not typical. Now, of course, like I always say, I think it can be foolish to judge the reaction of someone getting horrific news like your wife was just murdered. But I'm here to tell you what's been reported on this case. Investigators also say that when they got to Randy's home to notify her family of what happened, before they even broke the news, they saw 25-year-old Daniel who was living at home at the time in the driveway, kind of pacing, walking back and forth, talking on his cell phone, and smoking a cigarette, which they say struck him as acting strangely.

26:20It also appears that Daniel lied about his alibi that day. We don't have a ton of detail here. We just know that the alibi didn't check out. He was also asked to hand over the clothing he'd been wearing on the day his mother was murdered, and they later found out that he'd given them a different set of clothing. Within a few days of the murder, Stewart hired a lawyer, and both he and his son stopped talking to police directly. They also didn't participate in a press conference about Randy's murder that her mother and daughter spoke at. Investigators say that they looked extensively into the family's financial records, spoke to as many people as they could, and there doesn't really seem to be any apparent motive for Daniel to kill Randy.

27:03Now, eventually, Daniel does sit down with the police, he answers all their questions, and he's officially ruled out as a suspect. As far as Stewart, we just don't know. The only proposed theory involving him was that whoever took Randy meant to take Stewart. And he did eventually close his chiropractor office due to the media coverage surrounding Randy's case. Essentially, the rumors of him engaging with sex workers ruined his reputation, despite his lawyers stating that the claims were baseless. I will say that some people online have wondered if Randy caught Stewart cheating, and if there was some type of cheating clause in a potential prenuptial agreement.

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27:45They theorize that maybe this led Stewart to killing his wife versus paying her out. But if that is the case, the police have not said that. So the cases, again, just sat. But a few years later, in 2011, the news broke that there was a new person of interest in the murder of Randy Gorenberg. According to reporting by WPTV News, a man named Mikhail Barrera was on the run after being wanted for the attempted murder of a police officer and at least two armed bank robberies. An anonymous tip came in to the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office that an inmate overheard a group of gang members taking responsibility for Randy's murder and that specifically Barrera was the gunman Now, Barrera was featured on America's Most Wanted several times but ultimately, as of recording this episode it appears that he's escaped the country without being caught or ever being questioned for Randy's murder The only other theory I could find was that Swedish serial killer Peter Mengs may have been responsible for the killings.

28:51But that was quickly rolled out after they found records proving he left the U.S. 10 days before Randy's murder. It really does seem that investigators are split about these cases. Some believe that without a doubt they are connected, while others believe that there's no connection at all. Obviously, all of these cases remain unsolved, but it seems that there was some form of justice. Three separate civil lawsuits were filed against the owner of the mall, Simon Property Group. The lawsuits claim that they should have been aware of the foreseeable dangers and that they failed to protect their patrons by not providing adequate security services.

29:33Now, Simon Property Group responded by filing a cross-claim against the contractor they used to conduct security services at the mall, stating that all of the liability should be placed on them. And the security company refuted the claim, stating that their contract explicitly absolved them from any liability. In the end, Simon Property Group settled out of court in all three civil suits against them, so what exactly each victim or their family received is unknown. But these lawsuits were critical. It was only after these were filed that Simon Property Group finally installed more cameras and set up a police substation on the property.

30:13They also terminated their security contract and hired another vendor. Really, I think it proves once again that sometimes the only thing these corporations will listen to is losing money. Not the horrific murder of one of their patrons, the kidnapping of a mother and son, or the brutal murders of a mother and daughter. It was only after they were held financially responsible that they took action to make their mall safer. And unfortunately, that is pretty much where the case is today. Despite a$400 ,000 reward being announced in 2015, no one has provided the information to claim it. Now, there are obviously huge ripple effects in this case that I want to touch on.

30:56Jane Doe says that she's still terrified that this man may come find her. She says that when her son sees a sketch of him, he calls him the bad man. This is trauma that they will both have to deal with for the rest of their lives. And Nancy Bukikio's sister told WPTV News that she knows Nancy will never be at peace until the killer is caught. My husband and I both promised her that before we came to meet her, we'd find this card. That's what I think every day. and I say to the police, you know, I need them to catch him. I mean, I feel that as a mother, I know my sister, the kind of mother she was.

31:41She's not at peace. I just pray to God that at least someday I can meet her and tell her, thank God I'm in his paying. The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office posted an overview of Randy's case to their YouTube channel with Detective Bill Springer outlining the circumstances of her murder. At the end of the video, he says that they were looking into implementing new DNA techniques in hopes of coming up with more evidence that would lead to a possible suspect. Springer said it's just a matter of time before her case is solved, and that if it isn't him who does it, someone behind him will. He also had a message for Randy's killer.

32:21He said it may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but someday, someone is going to come knocking on your door and you will be going to prison. Which brings me right to our call to action. Please share the sketch we have in this case along with the cases themselves. We don't know if they're connected, but we do know that there are three families out there waiting for answers about their loved ones. If they can find the man who took Jane Doe and her son, it might create the domino effect these cases need for their loved ones to finally get answers.

33:00As a reminder, all of these incidents happened in the year 2007, in Florida, primarily in or around the town center at Boca Raton Mall. Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers of Palm Beach County at 1-800-458-TIPS. but as always thank you I love you and I'll talk to you next time

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34:33Welcome to the secret after show. The studio door is open and our emotional support puppies, Popcorn and Heber are in the room. Let's go right into the case. Now, before I guess we dive deep into the three main cases, the first thing I had on my list was talking about the woman who threw$200 at the robber and told him to leave her alone. I can't in good faith tell you to do that. But after reading that, I will say that I would love to have a drink with that woman and hear her life story. I feel like a lot of us think we might do that in that situation, like fight back or be sassy or just like tell, you know, tell the person to go away.

35:19And this woman actually did it. I, it seems rare to me. I'm sure it's happened before. But something about that, I was just like, holy cow. And for her to not report it until she felt like it could help someone else, just very interesting. Very interesting. As far as I could find, the woman was never named. But again, if she's out there somewhere, I bet she has a story to tell. Next, as I guess progress with my sass, I wanted to talk about Simon Property Group and ask what's wrong with them. If you guys don't know, I spent a lot of time, like, you know, from like 16 till I graduated from college in retail.

36:06I worked in so many malls, like every popular mall in the Phoenix Scottsdale area, I've worked there. So this hit me, I think, in a different way. And specifically this property group. Oh, to not, and I, at this time, 2007, I was working in malls. And for them to not have cameras feels insane to me. Cameras in the parking area, I should say, feels insane. Feels insane. I think it's completely irresponsible. And I did some digging on them. Just so you know, Simon Property Group is still around. They were founded in 1960. And in the year 2023, they made about$5.6 billion. Billion with a B. Obviously, it's been quite some time since these incidents, but I just wanted to shine a light on that.

37:03And I know I kind of got on my soapbox in the episode, but these people, these property owners making so much money, have a responsibility. And so I just wanted to bring it up again, say that it was irresponsible for both the patrons and the employees of the mall, and just cast some shame on them. I normally try not to do that. But like, again, working in the mall and I was managing stores, which is like a different level, right? If you, you know, are like a cashier at a mall, usually you don't have a lot of communication with the mall management. But as a retail store manager, I, you know, spoke to mall management, I knew who the security guards were, what the company was.

37:51I cannot fathom them not having those cameras. And if I had to guess, it was just so that they could save money. So again, shame on you, Simon Property Group. But let's go into media discrepancies. I think the hardest, well, not really hardest, but like the most discrepancies I saw, I should say, were around Jane Doe's story. You know, when I first started researching the case, I read a few articles about what happened to Jane Doe. And I was like, okay, you know, that obviously awful, horrific, crazy. And then I found the NBC article where there's an actual interview with her. And I was like, what are people reporting?

38:36That's not what happened at all. That's not what she says happened at all. So that was just one of the biggest things is, you know, all the secondhand reporting was very different from how she told the story herself. And just like, you know, little things that I think made a bigger difference, like the series of events, what exactly happened, like when she had to drive herself or, you know, that type of stuff. It's just one of those things where it was clear that either, you know, obviously her name's not published. So either she didn't come forward, they didn't find her, and they maybe assume some of this story.

39:12I don't know. But the reporting about that specifically was all over the place. I did have a shout out. WPTV did about a one hour special documentary on this case, or these cases, I should say. And I think that they did a great job. Like the first half of it is so victim centered. You hear from their loved ones and it was just done with like so much grace and class in my opinion. Of course, I have no idea how the families feel about this particular production. It just felt more empathetic and victim-centered than I sometimes see, especially in these longer specials by the news stations. So shout out to WPTV.

39:58While we're doing shout outs, let's go on to our heroes of the episode. I love that it's evolved. It's usually like multiple heroes, and I love that. First, I have Jane Doe. Hello, Jane Doe for her bravery. And oh, I forgot to mention her having to deal with all the frustration of not being believed I reading this to you guys I was I just I felt rage for her and not being believed um and not only once right like driving up to the ballet and him being like ha ha ha which like part of me gets right like I'm human like part of me gets it like that dude was certainly not expecting what happened but just oh I just felt for her she goes to the valet and the guy's like yeah okay ha ha ha not believe the police are calling the police get there they don't believe her either they're like no way only Houdini could you know slide their hands you know under their butt and get their legs through it just sucks it sucks to be a woman who isn't believed and I hate that she went through that.

41:05But she makes one of our heroes of this episode, you know, for her bravery. I can't even imagine what she went through. And, you know, just her really thinking about these other victims and, you know, cooperating with the police, even after, in my opinion, they didn't treat her so well, I think just shows what an amazing woman she is. So Jane Doe, whoever you are, shout out to you and I really hope that I told your story accurately. My next hero of the episode is the media for keeping you know these cases in the news. There was a decent amount of coverage not like the most coverage in the world but you know there were some that just dug so deep into this story and were so helpful and I mentioned in the episode but I want to give another shout out to that NBC article.

41:58It's called Terror at the Mall. What is his name? The reporter was Dennis Murphy. This happened in 2008. And this by far, I think, is the most comprehensive article I found on this case. And this is where they talk to Jane Doe and get her account of what happened. So here of the episode is the media, but specifically, shout out to Dennis Murphy with NBC News. Again, that article, Terror at the Mall, was fundamental in building this episode. Last but not least, and usually as always, the families for, you know, giving these interviews, and again, specifically, I have another shout out to Nancy's sister, who has given some of the most heartbreaking but impactful interviews.

42:48But let's go on to our segment of hope. This is from people from December of this year, and the title reads, Woman abducted at age 3 in 1983 found alive after 40 years, and her mother is now charged. This article was written by Casey Baker, and it says, Now 46-year-old Michelle Newton was shocked to learn that her family had been looking for her for decades. A Crimestoppers tip led police to tracking down a woman who had been missing since she was a child, 1983, and arrest her mother for allegedly kidnapping her. Michelle Newton was just three years old when she and her mother, Deborah Newton, left Louisville, Kentucky, on April 2, 1983.

43:35For what Deborah allegedly told her then-husband, Joe Newton, was a job in Georgia. Then the article says that the pair just vanished. And it looks like the authorities believed right from the start that Debra had abducted her child, and this set off a years-long search for the young mother and daughter. At one point, Debra was deemed one of the FBI's top eight most wanted parental kidnapping figures. But in November of this year, 2025, 66-year-old Debra was arrested in the villages, Florida, and charged with custodial interference. And it appears that when the cops came, she's shocked and she doesn't think that they're there to arrest her.

44:20The article says in the video, a friend jokes, they're coming for you, Sharon. The name Deborah had allegedly used or had been using after leaving Kentucky. After Deborah jokes that the deputies were there for her dog, one deputy says to her, we're here for you, ma 'am. We're definitely here for you. They explained what was going on. She says that she didn't do anything, but she was handcuffed and arrested. And following her arrest, Michelle, who's now 46, was reunited with her father. I'm going to try not to cry, you guys. Joseph Newton told WLKY she's always been in our heart. I can't explain that moment of walking in and getting to put my arms back around my daughter.

45:04I wouldn't trade that moment for anything. It was just like seeing her when she was first born, like, oh, it was like an angel, he says. Obviously, this makes our segment of hope because this woman was reunited with her father and, you know, learned the truth of what happened. You know, so much love to that woman. I'm sure it's extremely confusing and complicated, but it is amazing to see you know these cases of a missing child solved so many decades later and like I always say you know this segment of hope is truly to one provide hope that the cases we talk about you know are going to be solved or get some more answers someday but also show like the wide variety of ways that these cases can be solved and this is one of them but as always thank you I love you and I'll talk to you next time With fall in full swing, more moments call for more comfort.

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In 2007, the affluent community of Boca Raton, Florida, was gripped
by terror when a series of brutal attacks and kidnappings struck the Town
Center Mall. Over the span of just nine months, three separate incidents
targeted mothers shopping in the middle of the day.

While some investigators have said that there is a hunter of women on the loose, a cold-blooded, calculating sociopath, nearly 20 years later, there’s still debate about whether all the crimes are related.

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